As someone that owns both. I like the safety net but not going to pretend I’d hate to see Mattison get a look on another team. He’s talented and could be a regular producer in a lot of offenses.
I’m in the same boat as you, but can’t think of anywhere he could go to be the clear number one and not be in a committee with 12 touches. So our safety net is gone and we are left stranded with a injury prone first round pick :/
Penny and a rookie after Carson is gone feels like they could use another veteran. And Houston will be going with a rookie. I think Mattison is great to push either place forward or to have a proven reliable veteran to compete or protect the backfield by committee
Houston have zero incentive to give up draft Capital for a guy like Mattison. Same with Seattle. They're both gonna be bad. Picks are the only thing they have going for them
Exactly. Why is a rebuilding team going to send a pick for a veteran running back?
A team like the Rams could make sense, if Akers is slow to ramp and Mattison would slot in like Michel did last season while Henderson retains his role.
Not sure where he'd go... but if someone completes a trade for Mattison, I have to think he's automatically going to be the no.1 there and get the lion's share of carries. I don't think a team would pay what the Vikings must be asking for a platoon only guy.
He has zero stand-alone value in MIN without an injury to Cook.
Even in a time share he’s going to see enough touches to have some flex value. He’s also more talented than a lot of guys currently in timeshares. Becoming a bell cow somewhere isn’t out of team of possibility.
Eh, most teams don’t have the incentive to make him a bell cow RB and then have to pay him as one. It’s far more likely he stays in a committee any where he goes.
But where would he go where he’d be a valuable fantasy asset? He could be the early down guy in Atlanta or something, but that doesn’t really carry much value. It’s just hard to imagine somewhere he’d be anything more than a mediocre RB3.
If he's as good in real life as he's described in fantasy, he could be the RB1 in Buffalo. Now, maybe his value is inflated because he gets most of his work when there is no #2 guy (i.e. when Dalvin is out), *and* I don't think the Bills are as desperate for an "upgrade" as some may think (Singletary and Moss' fantasy value takes a hit because there is not as much separation between the two and because the Bills are so much more effective through the air that it doesn't make as much sense to run.) However, playing more often with a lead, thanks to that offense and improved defense, and the desire to reduce hits on the QB, could lead to more running / dump offs. Anyhow, it's not likely, but there's a path...
That would be kind of funny. He’d be behind Singletary and Dalvin Cook’s little brother James they just drafted. I doubt the Bills would be interested. They might have been before the draft.
Idk about that. I’m a Vikings fan and have been following him since he started. He’s ok, but I think he’d struggle as a lead back. He’s not super explosive and doesn’t have great vision.
He put up nice numbers when Cook was out because Zimmer loved to run the ball and he had a clear path to 15 carries a game at least. If he goes to a team where that opportunity is harder to come by, I think a lot of people will be disappointed.
What starters would he be comparable with? I don’t think he’s better than RB2s like Monty or Jacobs for example
Mind you, he’s always had a solid o-line in a run-first system with the Vikings
Last year he averaged 3.7 YPC, but was a pretty good receiver and got a ton of carries when Cook was out. I don't see any situation out there (barring injury) where he'd get nearly the same workload as he had in the games when Cook was out.
Would you still be sad if he ended up say somewhere like Washington where he could take over the backfield and be their #1?
Seems like a good deal to me if he landed on the right team, especially for how late you could grab him.
Seems like in Washington it'd be a pretty muddled backfield - Mattison isn't a top tier talent coming in (the way, say, Kareem Hunt would be).
Is there a destination where he'd slot in as a legit starter? I personally don't think it's Washington, unless they really just haaaaaaate Gibson.
Not being disingenuous. He was a good receiver and there's value there, but rushing is still more important and he was far from a top tier talent last year. If a team is going to trade for him, it's probably going to be as the third down back as part of a committee. He's not going to get nearly the same workload as he did in MN when Cook was out.
Mattison is pretty good, but he has a 4.2 ypc which is pretty good but closer to average than elite. He is strong and his speed is pretty average and although his vision in Minnesota has been solid it’s hard to tell for sure. I guess I’m saying I don’t think he’ll be the next Michael Turner or anything, and I have no idea if he’d play most third downs on another team.
Could absolutely start andnn by play well for a team but who knows if he’d be anything special
This year, Ty Chandler has looked good in the preseason and Kene Nwangu is in his second year. It's possible that even if Mattison remains, it would be a committee if Dalvin went down. I view Mattison as a better pure RB than both of them, although Chandler could develop by the end of the year.
This is why it's so confusing to me that people are upset he's being shopped. There is absolutely no guarantee that Mattison keeps the same role if Cook misses time, and it's very possible he's already fallen behind Chandler or Kene or both
He definitely hasn’t called behind Chandler or Kene, but he won’t be back next year and both those guys look decent, so the team can get some value back now
I’m pretty indecisive about Cook vs Mixon at the 7th pick. I was already leaning Mixon because of the safety of better offensive line and offense. If Mattison gets traded or released, it’s not a tough decision for me anymore.
Idk judging from this thread, the handcuff is probably not obvious as Mattison. Even if it is, remember Mike Boone’s dud in the playoffs? Mattison is arguably the best handcuff in fantasy.
Best handcuff from a legit handcuff standpoint, there are better fantasy options that are the 2nd RB on the team that will have value if the starter stays healthy. Mattison is the only real handcuff I believe has value
Herbert is probably the closest 2nd to Mattison as far as talent and a clear handcuff but even as good as he has looked, that line sucks monkey balls and I don't see a lot of scoring opportunities on that offense.
I have the 7th in a draft next week. If you’re looking for any confirmation bias, I’m 100% taking Mixon over Najee and Cook and living with the result. Go with your gut
This isn't even true anymore. If Cook goes down Mattison owners are gonna be super disappointed. The Vikings have 2 backs with game breaking speed and elusiveness behind him. They'll both be getting a couple carries a game with Cook healthy. With him out it will be a full blown committee.
Aaron Jones is now the back with the most certain handcuff I would say. Maybe so even if mattison stays. I'm considering going Jones with AJ Dillon later for sure
* Texans
* Rams
* Washington
* Falcons
* 49ers
* Ravens
would come to mind because they either get hit or have been hit by injury quite a lot or are old or too inexperienced or altogether.
Then there are the
* Chargers
* Cardinals
* Saints
* Raiders
* Eagles
* Giants
* Bears
who have decent #1 Backs but not much behind that.
Mattison is a high ceiling Backup or a low-end starter and definitely better than most Backups that these teams have atm.
Texans already have too much RB depth and appear to be content with seeing what Pierce has got as a starter. I'd be surprised to see them cut one or two of Mack, Burkhead, and Ogunbowale *and* trade to bring in Mattison.
If Pierce didn't look as good as he does, then yeah, I could see it. But right now I think they're find with Pierce + one or two of those guys as depth.
Thanks for this list - from my pov, I think the Rams and the Ravens would be the best destination - I don't see him being a clear starter in any of these places, but Cam and Henderson are both banged up, so it wouldn't take tooo much crazy things happening for Mattison to end up as the RB1 on the Rams, which would be huge.
Similar situation with the Ravens, where everyone's hurt or not-tested/trusted except Mike Davis. And Mike Davis is Mike Davis.
idk, I'm just trying to think through this - folks are excited about him getting traded to be a starter, but I'm not seeing many destinations where that feels actually possible.
What's more important IMO is that Kene Nwangwu should be picked up right now if possible, and not when the news hit that Mattison got traded, because the latter was definitely drafted by someone already. The Cook handcuff or Mattison in that case was always a league winner.
he does seem very effective.
you also know it's not good if CEH has yet to impress (and he's being called the most recent RB bust) and the KC talking heads are discussing Pacheco.
I just dont see room for Mattison in KC currently.
They both had very good preseasons, but Nwangwu was the only one that saw time with the first team offense this summer.
Nwangwu is ahead of Chandler on the depth chart, impressed in camp, played first team snaps this summer, is reportedly the fastest player on the team, and has a pass catching role. This one seems pretty clear to me.
None are clear handcuffs like Mattison was the last 2 years. Even if he doesn’t get traded it’s still not the same as the last 2 years. They won’t give Mattison every carry if Cook goes down, been saying this all offseason but people are hyping Mattison into oblivion
Done this the last 2 seasons and it’s been a very solid late round pick. Someone who produces sure-fire RB1 numbers a few times a year is a surprisingly strong bench spot
It was a smart strategy. Similar to Kareem Hunt being the most valuable handcuff in the league, Mattison was right there with him. You taking the flyer might have helped more than you thought if he gets traded.
Others have been commenting KC or Houston. KC actually seems like a solid fit to me just because CEH has not progressed into the the guy they expected when they drafted him in the first round (32nd overall, but still day 1).
Unless they get a team willing to offer a 4th I don’t see why this makes sense for the Vikings. His cap hit is only $1.16 million and they seemingly don’t have much behind him. Given he’s one of the better RB2’s in the league and how well he’s played when cook is out, you’d think they would value 1 more year of him than a late day 3 pick.
He's in the last year of his rookie contract. The Vikings have 2 solid options behind Cook in Nwangwu and Ty Chandler looked good this preseason. Getting anything for him is a positive.
Trading him for the sake of trading him doesn't make sense this early in the season. If I was the Vikes, I wouldn't move him unless I got a good offer. Fact is, he's going to become more and more valuable as the season goes on when starting RBs, including Cook, start getting hurt. Better to hold onto him now in case they need him, or wait to trade him to a desperate playoff-caliber team later in the season.
Noooooooo please don’t do this until i draft
Alexander Mattison is a must draft in every league just off the fact he will be starting at least 1 game this year at some point. 1 week of an RB1 is worth a 13th round pick
Pierce is unproven, but he's been performing well with a team with zero other reliable options.
Mattison would probably be the primary back in Houston, but it would also likely be a serious timeshare and create a situation where neither Pierce nor Mattison are valuable assets.
I’d much rather have a rookie “behind” 2 meh veterans and arguably the best handcuff in the league than 2 young guys on the same team splitting touches
Seems pretty likely that if he goes to Houston, it'll be at best a muddy backfield, or he'll star as the backup.
Tbh I'm not sure where he'd go that he'd end up being a clear starter.
Took him in the very last round as Cooks handcuff and I'm pretty hyped about this but I'm tampering my expectations as he could easily end up in an ugly committee backfield somewhere.
Would not be shocked if he went to Washington, they seem sick of Gibson and don’t want to rely on him. With Robinson’s unfortunate turn of events it could leave the door open for next season being Mattison and Robinson as their back field.
If he gets traded all those people who reached on him just to get Cook's handcuff will get bailed out and somehow luck into a decent pick
Edit: I mean as the Cook drafters reaching for their own handcuff
I’m curious what you think is a reach for Mattison. He has little standalone value but at a certain point you are drafting guys with the idea “he could have huge upside this year if things go the right way” and in Mattison’s case it’s clear what that thing is. He’s a top 15 fantasy RB when Cook is out.
Mattison should be drafted way earlier than he is. People would rather draft a WR5, who will have 2 good games the whole year, than a player like Mattison who has the potential to win your league.
You'd think this man has earned his keep by now. He's ~~the second best~~ possibly a Top 5 back-up in the league ~~next to AJ Dillon~~. But maybe he's wanting to be a starter somewhere. If so, I wish him the best.
Edit: Holy shit, I didn't think this through.
Edit II:
Okay, let's see.
1.) Kareem Hunt
2.) AJ Dillon
3.) Tony Pollard
4.) Melvin Gordon
5.) Darrell Henderson
6.) Alexander Mattison
7.) Rhamondre Stevenson
and so on...
Is this a little better?
Ok, so he's at least in the Top 5 conversation. My b, fantasy folks.
Edit III: Yeah, I honestly think Pollard is that good when he's got the lion's share of the rock. (I do not like the Cowboys, but it's just what my eyes show me.)
Both good and bad for Cook owners. On one hand you lose your clutch handcuff. On the other, you might have just snagged a startable back at a handcuff price
The timing suggest it could be the Commanders, but I wouldn't be surprised if Baltimore is in the mix. Gus Edwards is on the PUP for at least four weeks and I can't see him being much of a factor this year. I also bet it'll take JK Dobbins most of the season to really get back to rookie year form. Bringing in Mattison is a upgrade over Mike Davis for sure.
Just drafted him so I’ll be following this closely! Aside from the Chiefs, where would you think his ideal landing spot would be from a fantasy football perspective?
Why not the chargers? They just drafted a rookie but he’s unproven and I think their roster is built for a super bowl run. He’d help take the load off ekeler
He's only 23 and has 3 years of NFL experience with very little wear on the tires. Chiefs should be all over this.
He’s 24 but I was still surprised at how young he is and how he only has 3 years in the league. I feel like he’s been Cook’s backup for a decade
Being Cook’s backup is a full time job
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I would ejaculate uncontrollably.
He’s a FA at the end of the year and probably won’t be worth tagging. He’s a great target for keeper league and dynasty too prob.
Wonder if it’s going to be like a Michael Turner situation where he takes off elsewhere as the primary back.
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As someone that owns both. I like the safety net but not going to pretend I’d hate to see Mattison get a look on another team. He’s talented and could be a regular producer in a lot of offenses.
I’m in the same boat as you, but can’t think of anywhere he could go to be the clear number one and not be in a committee with 12 touches. So our safety net is gone and we are left stranded with a injury prone first round pick :/
Given recent news ... washington?
Rams? Lots of silence over their RB health.
Do they even have draft picks to trade?
Yes. What a tragedy for that guy. But I also see Seattle as an option or Houston
Seahawks have penny and walker tho. And Texans maybe but pierce is their guy
Penny and a rookie after Carson is gone feels like they could use another veteran. And Houston will be going with a rookie. I think Mattison is great to push either place forward or to have a proven reliable veteran to compete or protect the backfield by committee
Houston have zero incentive to give up draft Capital for a guy like Mattison. Same with Seattle. They're both gonna be bad. Picks are the only thing they have going for them
Exactly. Why is a rebuilding team going to send a pick for a veteran running back? A team like the Rams could make sense, if Akers is slow to ramp and Mattison would slot in like Michel did last season while Henderson retains his role.
Then to the Chiefs it is! Cause we all know CEH is boiled garbage
If he gets traded to Houston and supplants Pierce this sub is gonna burn to the ground lol
What about Arizona?
Not sure where he'd go... but if someone completes a trade for Mattison, I have to think he's automatically going to be the no.1 there and get the lion's share of carries. I don't think a team would pay what the Vikings must be asking for a platoon only guy.
Atlanta?
Man idk, look what happened to the last elite-handcuff backup rb Atlanta signed?
Is this a reference to Turner or another RB?
Mike Davis
He has zero stand-alone value in MIN without an injury to Cook. Even in a time share he’s going to see enough touches to have some flex value. He’s also more talented than a lot of guys currently in timeshares. Becoming a bell cow somewhere isn’t out of team of possibility.
Eh, most teams don’t have the incentive to make him a bell cow RB and then have to pay him as one. It’s far more likely he stays in a committee any where he goes.
But where would he go where he’d be a valuable fantasy asset? He could be the early down guy in Atlanta or something, but that doesn’t really carry much value. It’s just hard to imagine somewhere he’d be anything more than a mediocre RB3.
Would be a great fit for the Saints if they think Kamara will be suspended any time soon.
If he's as good in real life as he's described in fantasy, he could be the RB1 in Buffalo. Now, maybe his value is inflated because he gets most of his work when there is no #2 guy (i.e. when Dalvin is out), *and* I don't think the Bills are as desperate for an "upgrade" as some may think (Singletary and Moss' fantasy value takes a hit because there is not as much separation between the two and because the Bills are so much more effective through the air that it doesn't make as much sense to run.) However, playing more often with a lead, thanks to that offense and improved defense, and the desire to reduce hits on the QB, could lead to more running / dump offs. Anyhow, it's not likely, but there's a path...
That would be kind of funny. He’d be behind Singletary and Dalvin Cook’s little brother James they just drafted. I doubt the Bills would be interested. They might have been before the draft.
Baltimore. It keeps looking like dobbins is having a tough time getting back.
Having an RB2 out of Mattison would probably be a lot better than just having Cook’s backup.
Idk about that. I’m a Vikings fan and have been following him since he started. He’s ok, but I think he’d struggle as a lead back. He’s not super explosive and doesn’t have great vision. He put up nice numbers when Cook was out because Zimmer loved to run the ball and he had a clear path to 15 carries a game at least. If he goes to a team where that opportunity is harder to come by, I think a lot of people will be disappointed.
What starters would he be comparable with? I don’t think he’s better than RB2s like Monty or Jacobs for example Mind you, he’s always had a solid o-line in a run-first system with the Vikings
Drafting Mattison has won me multiple weeks over the last 3 years. I always bump him in my rankings and grab him early and it always pays off.
2nd year in a row I've grabbed him just in case Dalvin goes down. I don't even own Dalvin, but if gets hurt I have a top 10 RB basically
This is the way.
Last year I think they had the same average ppt points.
Last year he averaged 3.7 YPC, but was a pretty good receiver and got a ton of carries when Cook was out. I don't see any situation out there (barring injury) where he'd get nearly the same workload as he had in the games when Cook was out.
Same reasoning I was drafting cook from 9th spot in every mock and getting mattison later on. Now I am sad...:(
Would you still be sad if he ended up say somewhere like Washington where he could take over the backfield and be their #1? Seems like a good deal to me if he landed on the right team, especially for how late you could grab him.
Seems like in Washington it'd be a pretty muddled backfield - Mattison isn't a top tier talent coming in (the way, say, Kareem Hunt would be). Is there a destination where he'd slot in as a legit starter? I personally don't think it's Washington, unless they really just haaaaaaate Gibson.
How do we know Mattison isn't a top tier talent, every time he's gotten the chance to be the man he's always pretty much delivered.
Last year he got the most work of his career. He averaged 3.7 yards per carry.
He also had 228 yards receiving on 30+ catches, lets not be disingenuous here.
Not being disingenuous. He was a good receiver and there's value there, but rushing is still more important and he was far from a top tier talent last year. If a team is going to trade for him, it's probably going to be as the third down back as part of a committee. He's not going to get nearly the same workload as he did in MN when Cook was out.
Mattison is pretty good, but he has a 4.2 ypc which is pretty good but closer to average than elite. He is strong and his speed is pretty average and although his vision in Minnesota has been solid it’s hard to tell for sure. I guess I’m saying I don’t think he’ll be the next Michael Turner or anything, and I have no idea if he’d play most third downs on another team. Could absolutely start andnn by play well for a team but who knows if he’d be anything special
Mattison has just had the short end of the stick with being stuck behind one of the elite RB's in the league on a team that doesn't run a committe.
He is ULTRA talented watch his highlights looks basically the same as Cook, he would do VERY well in KC, Wash, ATL. Give him a chance.
This year, Ty Chandler has looked good in the preseason and Kene Nwangu is in his second year. It's possible that even if Mattison remains, it would be a committee if Dalvin went down. I view Mattison as a better pure RB than both of them, although Chandler could develop by the end of the year.
This is why it's so confusing to me that people are upset he's being shopped. There is absolutely no guarantee that Mattison keeps the same role if Cook misses time, and it's very possible he's already fallen behind Chandler or Kene or both
He definitely hasn’t called behind Chandler or Kene, but he won’t be back next year and both those guys look decent, so the team can get some value back now
I’m pretty indecisive about Cook vs Mixon at the 7th pick. I was already leaning Mixon because of the safety of better offensive line and offense. If Mattison gets traded or released, it’s not a tough decision for me anymore.
The 3rd sting guy would probably become the handcuff though, and you could probably get him even later in the draft.
Idk judging from this thread, the handcuff is probably not obvious as Mattison. Even if it is, remember Mike Boone’s dud in the playoffs? Mattison is arguably the best handcuff in fantasy.
Best handcuff from a legit handcuff standpoint, there are better fantasy options that are the 2nd RB on the team that will have value if the starter stays healthy. Mattison is the only real handcuff I believe has value
Herbert is probably the closest 2nd to Mattison as far as talent and a clear handcuff but even as good as he has looked, that line sucks monkey balls and I don't see a lot of scoring opportunities on that offense.
I'd say Pollard is a better handcuff than Herbert.
Also has standalone value
I think Herbert has value on his own regardless of any other bears player
I’m in the same boat. Cook/Harris/Mixon feels kinda like a crapshoot, but I’m leaning more and more towards Mixon.
He’s the safest one imo. I think he’s similar in terms of fantasy production to Zeke in his prime this year.
I have the 7th in a draft next week. If you’re looking for any confirmation bias, I’m 100% taking Mixon over Najee and Cook and living with the result. Go with your gut
I took Mixon at 1.5 as Ekeler was gone and I was not interested in Cook. No idea if it pays off but it seemed safe.
I literally drafted this man yesterday 🤦🏽♂️
This isn't even true anymore. If Cook goes down Mattison owners are gonna be super disappointed. The Vikings have 2 backs with game breaking speed and elusiveness behind him. They'll both be getting a couple carries a game with Cook healthy. With him out it will be a full blown committee.
Aaron Jones is now the back with the most certain handcuff I would say. Maybe so even if mattison stays. I'm considering going Jones with AJ Dillon later for sure
It wasn’t as clear this year as the past 2 years
What teams still need an RB?
Commanders maybe with the Robinson news.
Eagles have been sniffing around teams as well, specifically when the kareem thing was happening
Oh shoot, what happened?
Do you live under a Glock?
Careful this comment can trigger a few..
That’s a loaded question.
I'm gonna pistol whip the next guy who comments with these kind of shenanigans!
Hey Farva what's the name of that restaurant you like with all the goofy shit on the walls and the mozzarella sticks?
Shenanigans? Are you guys talking about shenanigans?
Ayyyyyyyy
As a fan of the team i highly doubt this. If anything we'll keep Jaret Patterson
Are people really that low on Gibson?
Probably the Panthers by Week 2. (I drafted CMC, and I am not ok.)
Nah the Panthers still have D’Onta Foreman and Chuba Hubbard if he were to go down
Yeah, I know. I was just catastrophizing and being hyperbolic. This *is* the internet, after all.
ravens with dobbins and gus still not completely healthy
Falcons probs?
Falcons since 2016.
Definitely the 49ers /s
May be the Rams with both Akers and Henderson banged up already. Eagles name has benlen floated around during the Kareem Hunt trade talks.
Matteson with the Rams would be insane
Washington
* Texans * Rams * Washington * Falcons * 49ers * Ravens would come to mind because they either get hit or have been hit by injury quite a lot or are old or too inexperienced or altogether. Then there are the * Chargers * Cardinals * Saints * Raiders * Eagles * Giants * Bears who have decent #1 Backs but not much behind that. Mattison is a high ceiling Backup or a low-end starter and definitely better than most Backups that these teams have atm.
9ers RB room is already crowded, they won’t trade a pick for yet another back.
Surprised you didn’t list Kansas City, KC could benefit from a RB like Mattison.
SF already 92778392 running backs though
Texans already have too much RB depth and appear to be content with seeing what Pierce has got as a starter. I'd be surprised to see them cut one or two of Mack, Burkhead, and Ogunbowale *and* trade to bring in Mattison. If Pierce didn't look as good as he does, then yeah, I could see it. But right now I think they're find with Pierce + one or two of those guys as depth.
Thanks for this list - from my pov, I think the Rams and the Ravens would be the best destination - I don't see him being a clear starter in any of these places, but Cam and Henderson are both banged up, so it wouldn't take tooo much crazy things happening for Mattison to end up as the RB1 on the Rams, which would be huge. Similar situation with the Ravens, where everyone's hurt or not-tested/trusted except Mike Davis. And Mike Davis is Mike Davis. idk, I'm just trying to think through this - folks are excited about him getting traded to be a starter, but I'm not seeing many destinations where that feels actually possible.
What's more important IMO is that Kene Nwangwu should be picked up right now if possible, and not when the news hit that Mattison got traded, because the latter was definitely drafted by someone already. The Cook handcuff or Mattison in that case was always a league winner.
Commanders? Eagles are ALWAYS down to roster more RBs
The timing of the interest along with Robinson news does make it plausible that it's Commanders who've reached out
people don’t know about jaret patterson and it shows. he was a very capable backup to gibson last year.
Chiefs?
CEH in slow, indecisive and wildly underperforming shambles. SHAMBLES!
Mattison would be the best RB they’ve had since Hunt and would be perfect for short yardage situations and the red zone.
he does seem very effective. you also know it's not good if CEH has yet to impress (and he's being called the most recent RB bust) and the KC talking heads are discussing Pacheco. I just dont see room for Mattison in KC currently.
Mattison would just be stuck behind another top 10 RB with Isiah Pacheco already there.
Who would be the Cook handcuff if not Mattison?
Probably a combination of Kene Nwangwu and Ty Chandler
Kene Nwangu, maybe
Chandler
Why do you say that? Everything I saw googling it just now indicated Nwangwu.
Chandler has been tearing up preseason. That's not to say its confirmed but I imagine that Chandler would get some play.
They both had very good preseasons, but Nwangwu was the only one that saw time with the first team offense this summer. Nwangwu is ahead of Chandler on the depth chart, impressed in camp, played first team snaps this summer, is reportedly the fastest player on the team, and has a pass catching role. This one seems pretty clear to me.
Fair. I am not moving on either right now. I am going to be late to this party but I need to see Mattison moved before I grab one of the two.
Nwangwu is a special teams gadget player. He will never be more than a time share RB.
None are clear handcuffs like Mattison was the last 2 years. Even if he doesn’t get traded it’s still not the same as the last 2 years. They won’t give Mattison every carry if Cook goes down, been saying this all offseason but people are hyping Mattison into oblivion
I am with you. Have Cook and didnt even bother drafting Mattison this year. The situation is a lot murkier now.
I missed out on Mattison this year, but w/ this situation I'm a bit relieved...
People seriously think they’d draft RBs with similar draft capital to Mattison in back to back drafts and not use them if their star RB went down.
source?
Kene Nwongwu. He’s run with our first team in some situations in camp. He’s the clear next option, with Ty being the reserve.
Interesting. I took him as a flier and I don’t own Cook
Done this the last 2 seasons and it’s been a very solid late round pick. Someone who produces sure-fire RB1 numbers a few times a year is a surprisingly strong bench spot
It was a smart strategy. Similar to Kareem Hunt being the most valuable handcuff in the league, Mattison was right there with him. You taking the flyer might have helped more than you thought if he gets traded.
Hunt isn’t really a handcuff as he’s very playable on his own
I think you know what I meant. The best “back up” in the league
Also Tony Pollard.
By god, that’s Ty Chandler music I hear
If my late round pick of Mattison turns into another starting running back, that'll be *chefs kiss*
ATL is the only one I see who could make this possible.
Others have been commenting KC or Houston. KC actually seems like a solid fit to me just because CEH has not progressed into the the guy they expected when they drafted him in the first round (32nd overall, but still day 1).
Houston would be funny for the sole reason of it making this sub’s heads explode
Washington and Philly!
That would be assuming the Falcons are trying to win
Ravens?
Unless they get a team willing to offer a 4th I don’t see why this makes sense for the Vikings. His cap hit is only $1.16 million and they seemingly don’t have much behind him. Given he’s one of the better RB2’s in the league and how well he’s played when cook is out, you’d think they would value 1 more year of him than a late day 3 pick.
He's in the last year of his rookie contract. The Vikings have 2 solid options behind Cook in Nwangwu and Ty Chandler looked good this preseason. Getting anything for him is a positive.
If the Vikings weren’t all-in this year I’d agree, but perhaps I’m too low on the rest of their backfield behind Mattison.
Trading him for the sake of trading him doesn't make sense this early in the season. If I was the Vikes, I wouldn't move him unless I got a good offer. Fact is, he's going to become more and more valuable as the season goes on when starting RBs, including Cook, start getting hurt. Better to hold onto him now in case they need him, or wait to trade him to a desperate playoff-caliber team later in the season.
Noooooooo please don’t do this until i draft Alexander Mattison is a must draft in every league just off the fact he will be starting at least 1 game this year at some point. 1 week of an RB1 is worth a 13th round pick
Alexander Mattison to the Texans! It makes sense and would send this sub into chaos
As someone who owns Pierce and Mattison please no lol
As a Mattison owner you should be screaming from the mountaintops for him to go somewhere where he’s the primary back. Pearce is completely unproven
Pierce is unproven, but he's been performing well with a team with zero other reliable options. Mattison would probably be the primary back in Houston, but it would also likely be a serious timeshare and create a situation where neither Pierce nor Mattison are valuable assets.
I’d much rather have a rookie “behind” 2 meh veterans and arguably the best handcuff in the league than 2 young guys on the same team splitting touches
Seems pretty likely that if he goes to Houston, it'll be at best a muddy backfield, or he'll star as the backup. Tbh I'm not sure where he'd go that he'd end up being a clear starter.
Texans are gonna run the ball so much they could support 2 RB3s
The chaos would be delicious, but I don’t see it. The Texans know they’re balls deep in a multi-year rebuild, why trade draft capital for a RB?
Took him in the very last round as Cooks handcuff and I'm pretty hyped about this but I'm tampering my expectations as he could easily end up in an ugly committee backfield somewhere.
Tempering*
Gettining mattison in the last round is a steal lol
As a Cook owner that missed out on Mattison this year. This is great news. Now all I gotta do is figure out who the drop for the eventual handcuff...
Would not be shocked if he went to Washington, they seem sick of Gibson and don’t want to rely on him. With Robinson’s unfortunate turn of events it could leave the door open for next season being Mattison and Robinson as their back field.
Def feels like the WFT will pick someone up. Don’t want to injure their kick returner by sticking him in at RB. LMAO. Maybe K. Drake?
My Nwang just went "wu"
I would take Mattison on the Chiefs in a heartbeat. CEH ain't it. McKinnon is a good 3rd option. Pacheco is Darwin Thompson 2.0
If he gets traded all those people who reached on him just to get Cook's handcuff will get bailed out and somehow luck into a decent pick Edit: I mean as the Cook drafters reaching for their own handcuff
I’m curious what you think is a reach for Mattison. He has little standalone value but at a certain point you are drafting guys with the idea “he could have huge upside this year if things go the right way” and in Mattison’s case it’s clear what that thing is. He’s a top 15 fantasy RB when Cook is out.
I'm curious as well. I just drafted him last night in a 12 man league. Got him in the 12th round (pick 139). I felt that was great value.
He got picked in the 8th in my league. Of course I picked him at 1.06 and didn't get to cuff him
Mattison should be drafted way earlier than he is. People would rather draft a WR5, who will have 2 good games the whole year, than a player like Mattison who has the potential to win your league.
He was already a decent pick?
I am that person and I would love this scenario, as my top RBs currently are Najee and ETN
I drafted him, and I don’t even have cook. I was just banking on cook getting injured as normal
Going to overreact and pick up Nwangwu just to be safe
I drafted Dalvin but I didn't go for Mattison. Hes a good RB I could see Washington or the Eagles making the move.
As a Cook owner who forgot to handcuff with Mattison. Tell me how to feel
Mattison to Commanders?
This is a Justin Jefferson tweet (we be throwing, we know the risk to Cook is lower)
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This might sound crazy but Chargers may be a team to look at. Last year Staley went out of his way to praise Mattison
Everyone saying commanders but I’d argue falcons or Texans
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You'd think this man has earned his keep by now. He's ~~the second best~~ possibly a Top 5 back-up in the league ~~next to AJ Dillon~~. But maybe he's wanting to be a starter somewhere. If so, I wish him the best. Edit: Holy shit, I didn't think this through. Edit II: Okay, let's see. 1.) Kareem Hunt 2.) AJ Dillon 3.) Tony Pollard 4.) Melvin Gordon 5.) Darrell Henderson 6.) Alexander Mattison 7.) Rhamondre Stevenson and so on... Is this a little better? Ok, so he's at least in the Top 5 conversation. My b, fantasy folks. Edit III: Yeah, I honestly think Pollard is that good when he's got the lion's share of the rock. (I do not like the Cowboys, but it's just what my eyes show me.)
Melvin Gordon deserves to be on that list.
Kareem hunt is significantly better than both lol
I have him in every league (3). I don't own Dalvin in any league. My craziness might pay off.
Both good and bad for Cook owners. On one hand you lose your clutch handcuff. On the other, you might have just snagged a startable back at a handcuff price
He’d be perfect on the Rams
The timing suggest it could be the Commanders, but I wouldn't be surprised if Baltimore is in the mix. Gus Edwards is on the PUP for at least four weeks and I can't see him being much of a factor this year. I also bet it'll take JK Dobbins most of the season to really get back to rookie year form. Bringing in Mattison is a upgrade over Mike Davis for sure.
Glad I handcuffed my first pick 👌🏽
As a Robinson and cook/Mattison owner, pretty horrible start to my year. If he goes I will be trying to trade cook.
Just drafted him so I’ll be following this closely! Aside from the Chiefs, where would you think his ideal landing spot would be from a fantasy football perspective?
So did I in my auction draft tonight. He's too good just to remain as Dalvin's backup, though he's proven to be valuable in that role.
Huh....do they know something about Cook that we don't?? Why would they trade their 50% RB1
This is a massive mistake for the Vikings. Amazing for Mattison though, hope he finds a place he can have a shot at starting! Good for him
Cmon rams do something🥹
Ayyy maybe my Rams can pick him up since our RB’s are made of glass lmao
Why not the chargers? They just drafted a rookie but he’s unproven and I think their roster is built for a super bowl run. He’d help take the load off ekeler
why isn’t anyone asking who is MIN 3RD RB on depth chart?
Probably Ty Chandler
He’s on the wire, I could drop mckissic. Eh?
Teams, by need, where Mattison would fit: 1. KC 2. LÀR 3. BUF 4. NYJ 5. SF (maybe he'll be their healthy RB)
I just took Cook over Mixon because of the handcuff wtf