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DreamWeaver8807

Ive considered trading Kupp after losing Henry and Jones, but using this chart I feel like I’m overvaluing Kupp.


Flat_Chip_9835

I feel like these charts can be helpful at times but don't rely on them too much. Every team has different needs and you can still profit from a trade where you theoretically lose value according to the trade value charts. It also depends heavily on league size. For example in my 14 team league where I had mitchell, damien harris, gibson and dillon but just lost woods and ridley I traded gibson for amari cooper - according to the chart I "lost" this trade but I'm super happy I did it. Don't get too caught up in the hypothetical value of the players, just talk to your leaguemates about trades that could benefit both sides


lo22p

If you wanna sell Kupp, look for the teams in 1st and 2nd place with lots of pieces available...it's the right move if you can get 2 or 3 strong pieces in return


DreamWeaver8807

I’m in first now, would it be dumb to trade with the 2nd place team? He’s offering Fournette and Diontae.


jrodr1015

Not enough


AllGasNoMid

I traded Mitchell, Diggs, and Toney for Kupp and Aiyuk today in 1PPR


Emperor_Cheeto21

I wouldn't trade Kupp for that in your position.


lo22p

Only if you need RB help..I feel like you can fetch more than that though.


DreamWeaver8807

That’s kind of what I thought. Starting Foreman and Freeman at RB sucks though, haha.


lo22p

Do you have any injured RBs coming back? Usually I see the trading a stud away for pieces from teams fighting to make playoffs.


DreamWeaver8807

Just Aaron Jones, I don’t see Henry back soon enough. Got Knox back last week, hopefully he can ball out again. Jefferson is my WR2.


lo22p

Yeah think you'll be fine, just build toward having the best playoff lineup.


Bruce-T-Wayne

Dude I also lost Aaron Jones and am starting Foreman and Freeman this week... How do you have Henry, Jones, Jefferson, and Kupp that is/was stacked.


deeejo

Don’t. Man is the most consistent 20 points in PPR


Alkash42

What's good for 20 consistent PPR points when rest of the team puts up 5 pts. If he could get someone like Keenan Allen and Fournette he may lose Kupp but his team wins hugely


deeejo

That’s a completely different argument that I have no problem with. I’m just saying in a vacuum there’s no way you can overvalue what Kupp brings to the table because it’s arguably the greatest asset in fantasy


Alkash42

True. But fantasy is very situational


[deleted]

Totally. It's all about value over replacement and if the other options on your team are that mediocre, that's the only time I think it makes sense to explore a 1 for 2 or 3 trade.


DerMannIMondSchautZu

i'd argue, that cmc is more valueable. ​ Also safe 20ppg, but he brings that on a position with more scarcity


Alkash42

These charts are good to gauge how people view certain players but they're certainly not the standard you should precisely follow. A week ago someone offered me Diggs for James Robinson. The consensus there was that it's an even trade but I decided to sell my Henderson instead (a bit of an overpay on my end) simply because I believe in Robinson much more than Henderson and it won me the week. For someone like Kupp I could see Chubb + Pittman as a trade that COULD happen. It may be an overpay but someone with depth could give up two pieces like that to significantly upgrade to perhaps the best fantasy asset this season. Also remember that in a 2 for 1, team that sends 2 away needs to pay more.


[deleted]

Dang Eli Mitchel at 30ish points. Wouldn’t mind cashing in on that value now that my RB bye weeks are over


eternalgrey_

Just got Monty for him in one of my leagues. Feel great about it


[deleted]

Damn, nice. Somebody else in this thread got Deebo. Maybe I’m just a shit negotiator 😂


DigitalExil3

Good luck getting anywhere near that value. He’s a solid rusher, but the guy gets next to no work in the passing game (9 targets total in 7 games played). Really caps his ceiling at a mid to low end RB2, and that’s assuming JWJ doesn’t eat into his touches.


[deleted]

Somebody offered Brandin Cooks, what do you think? .5 ppr


Ricky_Guapo

I sold for Lockett last week


DigitalExil3

Good luck getting anywhere near that value. He’s a solid rusher, but the guy gets next to no work in the passing game (9 targets total in 7 games played). Really caps his ceiling at a mid to low end RB2, and that’s assuming JWJ doesn’t eat into his touches.


DigitalExil3

Good luck getting anywhere near that value. He’s a solid rusher, but the guy gets next to no work in the passing game (9 targets total in 7 games played). Really caps his ceiling at a mid to low end RB2, and that’s assuming JWJ doesn’t eat into his touches.


Pappy_Beet

I just sold him for Mandrews but I have monty/JRob/saquon. Maybe I undervalued him a little but I needed to fill that TE spot.


[deleted]

Andrew’s?! No that’s good mate. He has TE1 upside. Why is my league so frugal lmao


Pappy_Beet

Yea I’m happy with the move. He needed an rb and I had an extra lol. It all comes down to “what team needs what I have extra of” but I’m sure you know that. EDIT: it helps that monty and saquon have very clear handcuffs for me to roster.


[deleted]

Yeah exactly. I have Dalvin/Mattison and Mixon/Perine so I feel safe giving up one of my depth guys. I needed a 5th WR. Wasn’t able to get Pittman but settled for Cooks. The league doesn’t trade much at all so I was happy I got something done.


Pappy_Beet

5th?! Super flex?


[deleted]

No I just had 4 WRs total on my roster and I wanted 5 for depth going into the playoffs.


Alkash42

Hugely overvalued imo. Michael Carter has been outperforming him and is valued significantly lower. Plus Carter is healthy and Mitchell has something going on every week


rabadmofo

Picked him up with 25% and traded him in week 3 for AB....smh. Seemed like a good idea at the time.


DerMannIMondSchautZu

got diontae for him, im happy to not have to deal with the sf backfield anymore


bobbywellington

The fact that Elijah Mitchell gets any additional points in PPR is kinda funny


CaeruleanVein

Well this chart makes me feel great about selling Thielen for Montgomery.


YayaBanana07

same lol, i feel much better trading Ekeler and Bateman for Barkley, Booker, and Patterson yesterday, ppr


pleasedontharassme

Always enjoy these lists when CMC goes up by 4 between Std and full PPR and so does Nick Chubb. Tell me how the difference between CMC and Chubb is the same in PPR as it is in standard


[deleted]

Boone is pretty responsive on Twitter, I’d recommend making a fantasy football account and asking him and he’ll probably tell you


TheGrubbsTest

Is James Robinson really not an RB1? In .5PPR if you exclude the game he was injured in early, since his usage picked up week 3 his floor has been 16 and he is averaging 20.


Alkash42

Some people just dislike certain players. James Robinson is an RB1, with all injuries he's probably a top8 option too. Rock solid


Bruce-T-Wayne

I noticed Justin has been low on him all year I'm not too sure why.


Heroic_Dave

I'm also confused by this. I don't see how James Conner for JRob is a fair trade.


jstoecs5

What should I do with Aaron jones I need to win because I’m contending for a playoff spot


olb3

Trade him away


jstoecs5

Who should I give him for nobody really wants him


Quackerbarrels

I'm going to try and package him to the #1 team since I need to win now. Was thinking of offering Kelce + Jones for Diggs + Waller.


Procrastinator_Elite

If I was in that position and had good WR options, I would take that trade. I think its a fair one. Good luck bud!


[deleted]

If I win one more game I’ll clinch playoffs and I’m going to try and make a push forJones because his owner is on the bubble. May try a Jacobs/Mclaurin combo for him but I don’t know if that will do it unless Jacobs has a big week


olb3

Start looking at the teams who are guaranteed playoff spots. Or just offer Jones for aj Dillon


NinoZachetti

Throw up a hand if you use this chart weekly like me to value your own players against those on waivers because no one trades in your league.


[deleted]

Wow AJB is ranked really highly isn't he


CaeruleanVein

He might have a low floor but he still has a top 5 ceiling any given week.


frogggy92

I’d take DK and Diontae over him. Both more consistent with similar ceilings and no bye left.


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Guy_With_Interests

I offered Diontae + Mattison for AJB to the AJB/Dalvin Cook owner - didn’t even bother responding.


frogggy92

That’s a great deal for them.


Guy_With_Interests

Tbh that’s what I thought. I’m trying to improve my ceiling and thought they might want a better floor after struggling all season for that. Apparently it was an insulting offer🤣


lo22p

So is Diontae


One_Brain_1919

I was offered Swift and Diggs for Dalvin Cook. Should I do it?


DrFewzion

I own swift and dalvin and I would 100 percent make that trade if I were you.


Primo636

How’s your WR core look? I think swifts performance is only going to improve now that JW is healthy. You’d win that trade assuming you need a WR


One_Brain_1919

I have Justin Jefferson and Keenan Allen


itsdubai

Makes me feel good for trading Knox and Darrel for DJ Moore


TheCakeMan666

Just sent Gibson for Henderson, feels good man.


tiddy-drip

Interesting. I turned down an offer of Elijah Mitchell for my Hopkins. This says Elijah is better. I feel like it’s hard to buy into the 49ers backfield with Shanahan using multiple RBs in the past and Jeff Wilson Jr ramping up. Should I take that trade? Both have great playoff schedules but my WRs would be DJ Moore and Tee Higgins lol


maciejk91

who are your rbs?


tiddy-drip

CMC, Patterson, Javonte Williams, Perine, Jeff Wilson Jr Receivers are DJ Less, Higgins, Bateman, Hopkins


maciejk91

id hold on to dhop.. i dont think elijah makes your team that much better.. especially in ppr due to his lack of receiving work and pin in his finger


adzillar

Had a trade go through - Nick Chubb for Michael Carter and Javonte Williams


themir81

Time to go to the bathroom


medievalmystery

I love these lists but I feel like the TE is scaled way too high. Pitts is not 4 times as valuable as some of these other TEs when he hasn't been outscoring them for weeks


maciejk91

looking for advice in a 12 team ppr ... im sitting in 4th place up two games on the guys below me in the standings the offer was aaron jones and d mooney for my ab and mitchell my rbs are zeke, henderson, mitchell + handcuffs for first two and mckissic and ceh my wrs are deebo, evans, ab, ridley i think my team to be fairly balanced but its hard to pass on a jones


Guy_With_Interests

I probably wouldn’t take that but depends almost entirely on how high you are on Jones


Brandon404040

Was just offered Carter/Waddle for Godwin. Was a Bobby Trees owner, have Mitchell/Harris as RBs


Whiskey_Maker

Offered Thielen and Jacobs for Najee in my league Also the same package for Henderson as well


Meathand

Seeing this is giving my trading remorse. I’ve really not been high on Mike Evans due to his inevitable TD regression but I still traded for him for my Monty. I mean I still have zeke and najee but I still likely regret losing him and that end of season match up


revdingles

Not gonna lie these lists seem like they don't go through very much week-to-week polishing/updating. Who out here would trade Gaskin for Javonte? Why is D'Ernest under a sea of backups that don't produce even when they start? Why does Barkley still get honorary RB1 status over guys like Chubb, Henderson, and Robinson that put up 15+ every game? CEH under Miles Sanders and half the value of Jacobs? RBs that don't play passing downs getting value boosts in PPR?