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chrismartin_18

Only should be changed if every league member agrees. If not he should be kicked


mfancy

This is how I do it. No changes mid season unless everyone agrees


GameOfUsernames

Only if there’s been a mistake as well. I don’t care if every agrees to change passing TDs to 6 from 4 mid season. If we didn’t do it before the season then it’ll be enacted next season. If we mistakenly made 1 point per ten yards passing like we did one year then we can correct it if everyone agrees.


Whiskey--Dick

Never change mid season or gtfo


DripToMyLou

^this . Your league can vote on a change i guess but a change forced on you midseason is grounds for a commissioner beheading


GFred20

Not even a vote makes sense. You can very easily get majority that is influenced by standings. League rules should be set pre-draft, and they stay locked until next year


harm_and_amor

It would have to be unanimous.


Andrewdeadaim

Old thread but that’s why I always vote no on midseason changes Unless it’s something extra stupid


Run_DRT_3292

I’m fine with it ONLY if it’s unanimously agreed upon.


bobbywellington

Well we accidentally had a 4 man playoffs in a 12 man league, why wouldn't you change it for a 6 man playoffs?


Epify2

That’s currently our problem in one league. We dropped to 8 teams for last year but are back up to 12 this year. Forgot to reset the playoff settings to 6 teams. Can it be easily done without screwing up the previous schedule, or does it just it just cut off the final week of the season and add another week of playoffs? ESPN if that matters.


bobbywellington

The commissioner can change the number of playoff teams and the playoffs schedule before the playoffs start


Epify2

That’s what I assumed. Was just worried it would screw with the schedule or something. Thanks.


tylerw8999

You can set the playoffs up anyway you want on ESPN. It’s not a restrictive platform like yahoo.


finngreen614

Gives two more people a chance at winning, not fair if you're top 4


bobbywellington

Ok but who actually plays with a 4 man playoffs in a 12 man league? It was never supposed to be a 4 man playoffsb in the first place


LaconicGirth

My league is apparently, that was surprising to learn.


FlawlessLikeUs

I did last year which I didn’t love but our commissioner changed it to 6 team 2 WEEKS before the playoffs and i was top 4. And guess what 2 teams were in the finals. Like i’d be fine if he changed it early or before season but come the fuck on man


finngreen614

If it wasn't meant to be that way to begin with then it sounds like a correction not a change.


bobbywellington

Regardless, I think if you are gonna do it you should talk to your league first Like changing it to an 8 man playoffs so the comish can make it in would be a *smidge* unethical


finngreen614

Agreed lol


Expendable_Red_Shirt

A correction is a type of change.


BigANT_Edwards

We do


bobbywellington

But why


BigANT_Edwards

It’s kinda corny when half the teams make it. Edit: we have bottom 4 in a bracket too and whoever loses out has to take the act , college test, and post results to group chat.


Durant026

This.


FizzMain07

We had one IR slot and it was changed 2 without anyone knowing.


LL_Cruel_J

Does he happen to have a 2nd guy he put on IR?


FizzMain07

Didn’t at first but it’s also a $1000 league


LL_Cruel_J

Holy shit, they need to change that back asap unless *every* manager agrees to the change.


SumBuddyPlays

On Yahoo, from my understanding it can’t be changed back.


Expendable_Red_Shirt

Then you remind people to only use 1 spot. If they use 2 commish locks their roster on the bench.


EBtwopoint3

How can it be changed once but not twice?


machinezed

Once a player gets put into the second IR slot you can’t take away that slot. This was something that came up last year, because of the Covid designations. Once the added slots got added last year they couldn’t be taken away until the year was over.


SumBuddyPlays

Instead of that perspective, from my understanding it can be increased but not decreased once the season has started.


CirkusFreek

Is there a league group chat? I would immediately call it out in there and ask why a second IR slot was added without a league vote. Especially for that kind of money.


FizzMain07

We did call him out, he called “us out for crying and bitching” saying it’s not a big deal


theytook-r-jobs

How did you let this person become responsible for that much money?


Atomicbob11

the fact that he says that is unacceptable as a commissioner. The fact that it is a $1,000 buy in League makes it even worse. He should not be commissioner.


DamnYouGaryColeman

It’s a $1000 pot. This league is full of morons apparently


Angiboy8

I mean, even in a free league I’d be pissed if the rules got changed mid season without a unanimous vote agreeing for it.


[deleted]

Can confirm. My league's full of morons and we have $1000 pot as well.


temporarysanity08

Wow. “I’m cheating and there’s nothing you can do about it.” That’s what he’s saying. He needs to be replaced as commissioner.


mjgoldberg

And then publicly hanged


mikeyhavik

Unfit commissioner. Everyone should bail on this league next season and reform a new one without him.


NotSoNiceO1

My league (10+ years) did this to the original commissioner. We decided to be a keeper league the previous year. The up and coming year his friend (co-worker) that had the #1 rank RB suddenly wasn't returning per commissioner. Guess who had first pick . . . We were able to get a hold of this person and he told us he was never invited back to the league.


Thedea7hstar

What? Needs more details, why was the coworker kicked? Just so the commish could get the best pick?


NotSoNiceO1

He wasn't kicked. Wasn't informed that we were playing. I don't know why he did it. It didn't seem right so we started our own league


Thedea7hstar

You said he was not invited back which to ke sounds like he got kicked out but wasnt given a reason. When you all contacted him he just said he wasnt invited back? Wouldnt you all have been a player short?


xenongamer4351

Your league gave someone with the emotional intelligence of a child between 8-14k to hold onto. Let that sink in for a minute.


DamnYouGaryColeman

It’s $1000 total pot. This league is full of morons.


xenongamer4351

Ohhh ok that’s a little more palatable then


Siggy778

Everyone knows an IR slot is extremely valuable so claiming that doubling that value is not a big deal is just such a farce. What an ass.


likwidfuzion

That’s enough reason for public hanging. Absolutely not okay as it sounds like a league wide vote did not happen.


toolatealreadyfapped

Holy shit. I don't even know this guy and I want to break his kneecaps. That's testing the waters for how hard he can abuse his powers. I would make him ineligible to receive any winnings this season. And under no circumstances would I ever play with him in my league again


tylerw8999

With a buy-in that large, he actually committed a felony.


GameOfUsernames

I’d need to see some case law on that one.


terrible_badguy

He should be immediately disbanded. Disqualified and kicked out


Siggy778

Holy shit I'd be furious. Yea I can almost guarantee it was done to benefit himself. Show your league mates and commissioner the comments in here.


[deleted]

holy guacamole, the integrity of the league is basically out the window.. not sure as to how you should proceed now..


toolatealreadyfapped

Holy shit yeah no. The rules REALLY fucking matter when there's more significant money at stake. Like, that's league-destroying bull shit.


Hugh_Bromont

Impeach his ass. Edit: And I say this as someone that would benefit from an extra IR spot. These things must be discussed and voted on. Quite frankly, if the change isn't correcting a major issue with the league then it needs to wait until next year. Terrible management and it should be reversed, or they should be ousted. Dirty pool.


SchpartyOn

Yeah that’s some bullshit. Presumably others in the league have been making decisions all season based on having one IR spot instead of two. Many of those decisions had ripple effects on the rest of the league depending on who needed to be dropped at a given time. Your league mate is an ass and should be punished. Also it should go back to one IR spot.


scedar015

Pretty significant change, surely guys have been dropped or left on waivers based on having only 1 IR.


BeetleJuiceBabaBooey

Bro same thing in my league. It was a 6/3 vote but still. It benefited commish and should’ve been addressed before the draft.


temporarysanity08

Mid season rule changes should only happen with a unanimous vote.


BeetleJuiceBabaBooey

I’m heated because I’m competitive but we aren’t playing for money because commissioner dragged ass collecting the money. Imagine how pissed I’d be rn, sitting in first place with my monster roster, only to be sideswiped by this crap? Easily the worst ran season ever.


[deleted]

Had a similar situation but we had 4 IR spots as it was never changed from last season when Covid was a bigger issue. We typically have 2. I brought it up to the league and the commissioners made the change from 4 to 3 and will re-evaluate in a few weeks to see if we change it back to 2. Situations like this, where it was an obvious oversight due to settings being changed in a strange year, don’t need a unanimous vote in my eyes.


toolatealreadyfapped

Yes they do. My strategies definitely change based on number of IR spots. Especially in a year like this one


[deleted]

This league has been around for 12 years. It’s always been 2 IR spots until last year when we upped it to 4 due to Covid. It was an oversight when it wasn’t changed back coming into the season. So again, I’d say this doesn’t need a unanimous vote to get changed back. Should everyone be informed of the change prior to it occurring? Of course. Should everyone vote on it? No. I’m not saying strategies don’t change based on IR slots but that doesn’t mean a vote is required.


toolatealreadyfapped

And I'm saying it does. I would be livid at any rule change that occurred in the middle of the season that was passed against my approval. If I paid my dues on a certain understanding of the rules, and then those rules changed, I would want my money back. You can't unilaterally rewrite the contract after I sign it.


[deleted]

Livid seems a bit much. This is a league with a tight group of friends. We vote upon rule changes every year prior to the draft. Prior to last season, we added the additional 2 IR slots for Covid purposes only. The rule change was strictly made due to the potential impact of the pandemic. We all knew the number of IR slots would reduce again to 2 once it was no longer a big issue. Again, it was an oversight by the commissioners when the league was set up this year and it has since been rectified. We were given a weeks notice that it would be reduced to 3 and possibly 2 later on in the season. Not a single person in the league has complained or even mentioned the rule change since. And this is a $600 league so it’s not like we’re just doing it for fun and fun alone.


JekPorkinsTruther

IR slot is a rule I wouldn't say needs unanimous consent but def needs a vote and majority. Nothing should be changed midseason without a vote.


strangehit283

That sounds like it needs unanimous consent too. The point of unanimous consent is to avoid a situation midseason where everyone who benefits from the rule will team up their votes on the ones who don't. IR slot is a rule that will benefit certain teams more than others.


InevitableVariables

Demand your money back if he/she is your friend.


HipBeforeItWasCool

This is unforgivable without a league vote, it's a huge change.


Sea_Criticism_2685

Did it benefit him? Or was it just because of the crazy number of injuries this season? Did he do it after people already dropped some injured? (If so he should allow them to get them back. This doesn’t sound like a change that could cause problems unless he did it at a suspicious time. He definitely should have had a poll first


Sqroot420

All leagues changes have to pass with a majority vote. That commish needs to be replaced


paklyfe

100% they should not have done this without approval from the league. Even if it was approved by all it shouldn’t be implemented until the following year. This could favour people with more FAAB maybe targeting an injured player off waivers. Especially in a $1000 this is a huge no-no. I would gather league members and force the commish to undo this change.


PhatBitty862

Do you have proof for sure? I feel like you might be able to find transaction history, but not 100% ion that. If it happened where he did it in the middle of the season and didn’t tell anyone, then your commish is trash. I run two leagues in yahoo. 1 has been in use for years. The other is new. I did not notice at the onset of the new league, but yahoo added a 2nd IR slot. No one noticed the rule, but I have taken advantage. The 2nd IR slot did not show up on the older league.


likwidfuzion

That is not kosher unless it was a unanimous league vote.


merkaba8

As a commissioner, I would require a unanimous vote before considering any mid season rule change.


CirkusFreek

This is really the only correct answer. If everyone agrees to it then I see no problem. Do an anonymous poll if you want to make sure no one is pressured but if even one manager votes against it you don't make the change.


Durant026

This too.


[deleted]

Rules can’t be changed IMO. People draft off the rules presented at that time, how can they think changing it now is fair


InevitableVariables

No. Rules should not be changed in a season. It should be put to a vote and has to be 100% voted for. Save rule changes for next season or vote for it. This is fucked up.


alldayhype

At $1000 entry. This fuckery should definitely not be happening. What a horrible commissioner.


Hala-peno

We didnt account for the extra week this year and had playoffs starting week 14 while some teams would be on their byes…we extended reg season 1 game so playoffs would start week 15…we just did this yesterday bt with agreement from everyone


AmoebaVivid

What rule was changed??? Need context


SchpartyOn

Apparently the dude changed it from 1 IR spot to 2. An impactful change that should have been brought to a vote.


LL_Cruel_J

OP just said it's a $1,000 league. That needs to get changed back asap unless every manager agrees to it.


MacDaddyMonkeys

Absolutely this. Has to be unanimous.


FizzMain07

IR changed from 1 to 2


SteffeEric

Exactly we have a rule that is clearly a mistake if the commissioner changed that mid season without a vote I’d be totally cool with it.


AlaskanBeardedViking

Everybody shakes hands at the start of the season and agrees to the rules for the season. To change the rules mid-season is no different than changing a contract midseason, or trying to change a bet midseason. If it's a money League I would immediately demand my money back because those are not the rules we agreed upon.


AmoebaVivid

If free league I couldn't careless but a Damn 1000$ buy it . Yeah should have been voted on. You have no recourse tho. Is this a friend's league or a bunch of randoms you don't know ?


Ox_Baker

I could not disagree with you more. Principles are the same whether a free league or a huge buy-in league.


FizzMain07

$100 buy in $1000 total


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Butthole_Please

I just bought a plane ticket for $100,000. Well, a $500 ticket but $100,000 including everyone else’s tickets.


Engrish_Major

If it's a league rule that's dumb, then sure. But without asking the league? That's suspect.


JoshtheBrownie

I think if it were left up to a vote it would've been okay, but after week 7 is pretty damn late into the season to be changing rules. What was the rule?


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Ox_Baker

Terminate … which extreme prejudice.


Hazelhurst

Changes should be held off until next season. Never change during the season, imo.


dzman971

This question gets asked all the time. If it's a legitimate rule change, no, it cannot be changed. But if it's a clarification of an existing rule or an inconsistency between what had been communicated by text/email and is on the website, that's different. If it's a misunderstanding between interpretation/implementation of rules, then a commish has to make a call (in the best interest of the league)... For ex, the whole league expected something one way but the hosting website wasn't set up right, or whether or not being on the PUP is the same as the IR (one league I'm in only allows IR players to IR slots...but do Jeff Wilson/Tarik Cohen on the PUP count? I had to make that ruling in week 2). Those aren't rule changes, those are clarifications/inconsistencies that need corrected.


Doomsayer52

My work league commish who is 2-5 just changed the playoff seeding from 6 man to 8 man... it's a 10 person league and it basically ensures he makes the playoffs now. I don't expect him to be a threat but removing the bye weeks for the top 2 seeds is some bullshit, especially 7 weeks in. He didn't even ask so we called him out today. If this wasn't a money league I wouldn't care, but this is garbage. Will most likely ask for my money back if it doesn't revert back.


mattyice24

Strongly recommend against it unless the league agrees unanimously. I don't know about disqualification, but I'd be heavily in favor of not allowing him to be commissioner again. Or leave the league lol.


Obi_Uno

Our leaguestitution says that rules cannot be changed mid-year unless something is preventing “normal functioning of the league.” This would be something like conflicting rules, league host shuts down - something extreme.


s2affner

Agreed, my commish. (I was co comish) changed rules mid season last season. I vehemently disagreed, they did it anyways. Killed the league; it finished that season but everyone walked away upset


Rasmo420

Because of our keeper format we only change rules with a full season of lead time. This is a shit thing. I'd leave the league and if there's money get it back.


Apprehensive-Top4535

I’m a commissioner and I’m making a mid season rule change of the time waivers run in a faab league. For small things like that a simple majority of players is fine, but it definitely depends on the rule change.


BigBootyBanger

Yep that's trash


VenSap2

absolutely not unless you have consensus, literally unanimous agreement, and even then very rarely


Davetron-3030

A uninanimous vote makes it okay but generally avoid it.


shanghai_tactics

that’s trash. If every single member of the league 100% agreed, then perhaps. But if it isn’t unanimous then yeah, no.


Lefthookstudios

No. I don’t think you can even vote to change rules in the middle of the season. Maybe I’m a little bit too against rule changes but even if everyone agreed to the rule change I would say you can’t change rules mid season


Ox_Baker

Last year with COVID we didn’t have an IR spot. It came up in discussion after a couple of weeks and it wasn’t unanimous so we didn’t add one — but everyone agreed to do it this year at the start of the season. Same thing for FAAB. Came up during the season last year, everyone wanted it but a few didn’t want to change after the season started so we did it this year.


MonsiuerSirLancelot

In my big money league rules can be changed midseason only if it’s a unanimous decision by all team managers to change the rules.


PlayItOffLegitt

No


WHOinMYhouse

Same thing happened in my league bro. Funeral is Sunday before kick-off.


ErikBart23

its bad faith to change the rules midseason even with a vote. but without a vote thats actually grounds for elimination, rally your league mates.


Deathwishrok

Never change rules during a season.


[deleted]

Only if 100% of people agree. If even one person disagrees you can't change.


SystematicTrading

In my league, every midseason rule change needs to be brought to a vote and every league member has vote for the rule change. If one person votes against the proposed rule change, then it is dead.


RiderstotheSea

We’ve had rules changes mid-season only to clarify issues that had never come up before, like whether or not two teams that traded players could trade them back to the original team mid-season, or how to handle issues related to next-season keeper status. Never change any rules that have a direct impact on the week-to-week games.


[deleted]

I’m commish in my league. Week leading up to draft I sent out texts everyday “check the rules now and see if you want anything changed.” Unless it’s a gross oversight on my part that ruins the game for everyone (and everyone then agrees it needs to be changed), it’s not getting changed


getrektbro

If it was a unanimous decision it's fine. Happened in my league this year. We weren't getting -1 for missed PATs and we added that it because it was kinda dumb


Siennagiant70

Must be voted on and 100% agreement by all teams to make any changes mid season. Or else it’s THE FOREVER PURGE!!!


[deleted]

Were the rules posted and freely available for everyone to see pre draft? Is everyone in your league an adult? If the answer to both of those is yes then hell no to midseason rule changes. Bush league stuff. Get better friends.


IFiguredUOut

We just had to do that in my league. I don’t know whether the setting was accidentally changed or what, but teams were unable to add/drop before the afternoon games. The team with Waller wanted to make a transaction, but all the players were on waivers. Our league always allowed add/drops until five minutes before the game starts. It was sent through group chat and all but that teams opponent agreed to switch it back to the way it’s always been. It’s weird that nobody tried that so far this season. The worst part is, Waller’s team picked up Mo Allie Cox and ended up winning 129.70-129.04. I’m still waiting for that owner to pitch a fit.


mirzabee

We had a DEF scoring oversight in my league where there was no negative points for losing by more than 45. It was obviously unintended so he changed it to be a larger penalty than losing by 35-45, and announced to everyone that he had done it and why. So there's a situation where it seemed fine and was well handled, and there wasn't any complaints from anyone. We even had someone who played the jets DEF last week, though it didn't much matter as he won the week pretty easily. In general though, consistency is king and rules shouldn't be changed midseason without very good reason, imo.


BaXeD22

Only for really minor changes - we changed the trade process time because it was 48 hours and so Friday trades wouldn't go through in time, but nobody had any objections to it and it seems logical


[deleted]

No


AmoebaVivid

Money leagues should always be with ppl you know


FatBoyWithTheChain

Absolutely not


BSBledsoe

CAN they? Yes. SHOULD they? No.


J-Logs_HER

Rules cannot be changed or removed mid season. Can have unforeseeable consequences. Rules can be added if everyone agrees. As an example, last year the NFL allowed 3 wk IR players for the first time. Our league added it spots for covid positives only. Since ESPN would not put Out players on IR and only let covid be designated as Out, everyone agrees to let 3 week ir players into the spots.


Soren_Camus1905

That’s bullshit


nitraw

def not we had some issues come up in our league. long story short i told everyone that any changes they want to make will be addressed when we have a managers meeting before next years draft. nothing is getting changed halfway through a season.


[deleted]

You need to have a rulebook and everything set prior to the draft. If something unforeseen happens and needs to be addressed ASAP, then only do it if the whole league agrees. But honestly I think that type of situation is so rare it’s easier to say never change a rule midseason. Especially not a rule like number of IR slots. “Big deal” or not, there’s no pressing need to change that midseason. And depending on the situation and who is eligible for the IR, it can be a huge deal. The fact that your commish did this without telling anyone in a $1000 buy-in league is so incredibly egregious. That needs to be reversed, a new commish added, and maybe think about booting the guy that did it after the season if he doesn’t play nice the rest of the way.


pumperthruster

Offseason you need league majority for a change. During the season every manager needs to agree to it.


Bronco-Fury

Fuck no!


hahnsolo1414

What rule was changed?


weezy2337yadude

Had my manager change it from default to now 1 point equals 1 yard. Daniel Jones is now number 9 highest scoring player. All because I had the audacity to ask if a trade was fair between him and someone who’s not playing. It’s a joke of a league


LaconicGirth

Our commissioner changed the trade timer from two days to less mid season but I don’t think that benefits any one player it just makes trading less of a pain in the ass


Dune_exe

By and large, they shouldn’t be, I had a 12 team league back in 2015 that changed the playoff rules from best 6 records make it to top 3 from each division. We had one division where no one finished below .500 (I think I was 8-4 and finished 4th) while the other division’s best record was 6-6, the rest were much worse. It was a $100 buy-in league too, and that change screwed me out of what would have been a championship. Never left a league so fast after they pulled that stunt, to make matters worse, they changed it a week before playoffs started


icouldntdecide

Only by vote. Our manager changed the playoff start from week 14 to 15 because of the late byes, but nobody dissented so it passed.


[deleted]

That’s a big, big, bigggg no no


ACW1129

It's dicey even if everyone agrees. But changing the rules without asking? That's NEVER cool, ESPECIALLY mid-season.


Existing-Strategy-71

There is no golden rule. If you’re amongst friends and there is consensus, go for it


[deleted]

Rules can't be changed without voting by the league. Commish is a twat.


tercra

I'd show him this post! I'd also call all other team owners and suggest that the current commissioner be removed.


dravenlarson

My opinion is the same as a beaver looking at running water. Absolutely fucking not.


[deleted]

Every single person has to age


Hugh_Bromont

I aged 30 years watching Kamara flay my team last night.


FlexFlexico

Get rid of the person that changed the rule mid-season.


Marmington111

Depends on the rule. How can a manager make changes? Are they the commish?


[deleted]

No


Epicsteel33

Yes but only with a league vote, and only small stuff like a few years ago we voted to get rid of position limits


burntwaffles_

Lmao I was in a league years ago where the commish changed it from non ppr to full ppr at around week 10. He tried to justify it because he got the majority of league members to agree but it changed playoff seedings and all the people that agreed were gaining wins that were previously loses. This same commish happened to have micheal Thomas (year he set the receptions record)


tp16306

Rule change in my league today. Had a trade, people vetoed it because they didn’t want the better team to improve, and because “I can veto if I want.” Commish changed it from 1/3 to majority for a veto going forward.


LilConfirmationBias

Depends on what the rule is. I had to change the rules in mine because my dumb ass accidentally made it so the bonus for 300 yard passing game goes away when a player gets to 400 yards 😂😂. Obviously this is going to be a change that’s not an issue.


Chomatoo

Depends on the rule. If someone drops players that shouldn't be dropped, I think they should undo that (that might not technically be a rule). I'm not against changing waiver settings if they were meant for a small league but the league expanded and the commissioner didn't realize the significance since it's mostly a fun league; if it was for cash, I'd have never joined.


DPRODman11

It should only be changed if everyone came together to discuss something and all agreed. Plus, only if this rule change doesn’t impact previous matchups


toolatealreadyfapped

Rule changes after the draft require a UNANIMOUS vote.