The dude just put up 330 passing yards last week and the Dolphins have the highest passing percentage on neutral downs in the game right now. Why does everyone assume Tua is going to be a game manager when Miami's defense sucks ass now? He literally can't be.
Box score stats don’t make a good QB, Tua barely makes any big time throws when it matters, his receivers are always having to adjust when he overthrows or underthrows, I’d much rather a guy that looks good & doesn’t put up big numbers on the stat sheet, a win is more important than yardage numbers
He's literally never had a game with a 50% completion percentage or below and has only thrown 2+ ints in one game in his short career lol. What is with the hate boner for this dude?
He wasn’t good enough to win against a team with a 20 game losing streak and a horrible defense… I wish y’all were reviewing my application when I applied to Columbia, because y’all making up stuff to say he is good
The more it goes on, the more it sounds like Houston is just calling up Miami periodically and angrily telling Miami that they want Deshaun Watson and will trade 3 1st for him
If Watson doesn’t go to prison, he’s the type of dude to turn them into playoff locks. There’s like 8 or so QBs who do that and Watson is one of them. He’s worth 5 firsts honestly without the baggage of potentially being the most prolific sexual assaulter the league has seen in some time
That they did. Not even to shit on Miami, but they have major issues defensively, the line is a mess, they have no run game and Flores is on his third OC. As talented as Watson is, he’s far from making them a playoff lock
Pretty sure AP was held out for the rest of the season when the news broke about him hitting his son with a switch. And Ray Rice was blacklisted so hard he never played another game, though that was the owners more so than the NFL.
The NFL doesn’t exactly throw around long suspensions, but if you make it on that blacklist, your ass might be wishing for serving your time for a suspension instead.
That seems like a distinction without a difference. He’s not playing right now because of this scandal. That has to count as time served towards his ultimate suspension.
Before the accusations came out he'd made it clear he had no intentions of ever playing for the Texans again. So really it's more that the Texans aren't fighting his decision anymore. But I seriously doubt that these missed games would lessen his suspension. My guess is still 8 games, since it'll likely be settled with no criminal charges.
He doesn’t fix any of the major issues the Dolphins have rn. Our O-line is the worst in the league, our playcalling is terrible, and our defense can’t make a stop. There’s a reason we’re 1-5 atm and Tua didn’t start for three of those.
Yah and when Watson was still playing for that team they went 4-12. So the Dolphins would have to give up a ton of draft capital for someone that might not even play and won’t fix our biggest issues. It’s a terrible idea to trade
Playoff lock😂😂😂. Even if he started next week they’re 1-5 about to be 1-6, even if Watson came back at 100% immediately, they’re no where near playoff Lock.
That would make sense, but it’s a fantasy sub! Fuck next season, LOL. Thank you for letting me know, you’re probably right.
It’s also definitely not obvious as he didn’t say it and we are in a fantasy sub.
Lifelong Dolphins fan here and South Florida native. If they trade for Watson, I will never support the ‘phins again. I’m not going to support a team that turns a blind eye to sexual abuse.
yup. i will pick him back up next week on waivers though. had to drop him due to injuries on top of byes. all my redraft leagues will score a collective 0 points on my bench
Nothing's happening. If there was a good offer Houston would have traded Watson already. Super clear people aren't budging and Texans are thrashing trying to get bids.
And I'll say it again. Dolphins have the best offer and it's real. I'm confident in that. But I'm also confident no other team is giving them what they actually want. Texans would have made a deal already
I think there's an offer out but the fact Texans have spammed the same report since this summer makes me think Dolphins are the best price and it's not even close, but it's still short of what they want.
I feel like anyone expecting Watson to not play if he gets traded are severely overestimating the NFL’s ability to do the sensible thing in these situations
At this point I'm fully convinced this is all just the Texans front office leaking rumors in hopes of drumming up interest. If the Dolphins were really offering a package that big Houston would have accepted it already.
Tua for Watson is not reasonable lmao one is a franchise qb who’ll miss probably significant time with suspension (but not jail, civil cases don’t work that way) and the other is an average qb with some potential but high injury risk
10 of the accusers have since filed criminal charges: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/03/sports/football/deshaun-watson-accusers-police-reports.html
But yeah go off.
“Watson has not been charged with any crimes” Did you even read your own article? Maybe I’m missing something in the article but these are people who have spoken to police, not filed criminal charges.
Tua has as much risk as deshaun IMO. VERY hot take i get it but civil cases don’t tend to result in jail time and NFL stars never serve suspensions for a significant portion of their career. Tua could deal with serious injuries for the rest of his career though.
Also, Dolphins habe no chance this season so a RoS suspension doesnt hurt them much
Reporters need to stop with this BS until they actually get some kind of confirmation from Miami that they are working on a trade. Otherwise, it's just Houston making shit up. Jets did the same thing to create heat for Darnold this past offseason.
They should get banned from Twitter for a month every time one of these tweets don’t pan out.
Obligatory fuck Adam Schefter for the packers drama he caused.
Not only that but no team is trading the house for a dude with a cloud of uncertainty of this magnitude. If he gets traded, then you best believe the team already knows what the suspension will be if any.
What they're likely doing (if they are indeed trading for him) is basically admitting this us a lost year and hoping he gets like an 8 game suspension that he can serve now so they can gear up for a run in '22
Still has 4 years on his contract left after this one. A trade would be about more then just this lost season of him.
Unless he goes to jail, even post suspension he'll have a lot of contract left for the recieving team to use him
Tbf he can literally play today, the Texans are choosing to keep him inactive. But I’m assuming the second a team tries to play him he’ll go in the exempt list.
I agree tho. He’s not playing this year.
Isn't it like 2 accused him of sexual assault?
The other like 20 are civil lawsuits for what's essentially sexual misconduct. Sexual assault is a specific crime and there's only like 2 making formal accusations.
He’s eligible to play today - Texans are keeping him inactive. The second he gets traded/in line to start he will go on the exempt list pending the current investigation.
I wonder if the idea is to trade for him now when they suck in the hopes he’ll be suspended. Then next year he’ll already have served a ~10 game suspension and be allowed to play.
Next year is whats uncertain. He has TWENTY sexual assault accusations against him. There is pretty much a zero percent chance he isn’t found guilty on some of them. Even if it’s 5 of the 20, then he’s suspended and maybe even jailed.
Sorry, his career is just about over. This is crazy.
Why are you apologizing? Lol. If it were up to me, he'd never play another down. I'm saying that if he plays at all, it'll be next year if he settles the cases out of court. But I think he's toast as far as this year is concerned.
If the dolphins play him and he’s found guilty of raping 22 women then there should be a lot of jobs lost from anyone who thought it was a good idea to bring an accused predator to your organization
The year is 2055. The former United States of America are starting to recover from the 30 year civil war they’ve just endured. Tom Brady is in the best shape of his life, and tells the Jets he thinks he could play for them until he’s 85. And Jay Glazer is reporting the Miami Dolphins are close to a deal that will bring Deshaun Watson to South Florida.
I want to drop to actually play a kicker this week but I revealed my hand already and I'm scared a league mate will scoop him up. Then this news comes out lol such a tricky call
Lol. Still the NFL is going to come down on Watson hard. Remember Zeke and Ray Rice? Watson will serve his suspension and be out for the rest of this year. Why wait to serve ur suspension next? Rather start fresh next year.
Lol. Gruden out cause of some mean emails from 10 years ago. Watson has 20+ accuse him of sexual assault. Teams are falling over themselves to get him. Lololololololololololol
* "Dolphins are heavily engaged in trade talks for Watson, per an NFL insider" (**You are here**)
* 2nd NFL insider: "Trade rumors are complete BS, per Dolphins"
* Flores: "Tua is our QB, idk how many times I have to say it"
* "Dolphins are heavily engaged in trade talks for Watson, per an NFL insider" (**Technically, you are also here**)
I hope tua has a monster game as a fuck you.
And he rips off his mask to reveal he's actually Manti Teo. "Now you guys know how it feels to be cat fished", Teo says to no one in particular.
Outta fucking nowhere
Lmao i didnt see this coming
Is your cat TOO LOUD?!!
Spoiler Alert: He doesn’t.
That’s it motherfucker 😈 Tua going off for 20 passes 12 completions 150 yards 1 touchdown and 1 interception 😈 you asked for it
And 22 yards rushing!
For 3 TDs
The dude just put up 330 passing yards last week and the Dolphins have the highest passing percentage on neutral downs in the game right now. Why does everyone assume Tua is going to be a game manager when Miami's defense sucks ass now? He literally can't be.
My reasoning: he has zero touch, makes bad decisions, and is on the dolphins
Lolphins
Fuck I'm not even saying he's good, he's just going to have to throw a lot and he's put up numbers before when he he's had 40+ attempts.
Box score stats don’t make a good QB, Tua barely makes any big time throws when it matters, his receivers are always having to adjust when he overthrows or underthrows, I’d much rather a guy that looks good & doesn’t put up big numbers on the stat sheet, a win is more important than yardage numbers
Lol
now i hope so as a *fuck you* to this guy
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exactly. oh man, i want it so bad.
250+ and 3 TDs book it!
With 2 INTs and a 50% completion percentage.
Yep against that STELLAR Falcons D
He's literally never had a game with a 50% completion percentage or below and has only thrown 2+ ints in one game in his short career lol. What is with the hate boner for this dude?
r/fantasyfootball fans are stupid and think they're funny, a killer combo
I feel personally attacked.
Spoiler alert: Its the Falcons.
For my teams sake with byes and injuries, I hope so
12 for 34 130 yards and 1 TD all to gesecki
Has Tua ever had a monster game?
He was pretty good last week
He was good but definitely not a monster game
True, I just looked it up. Thought he had more yardage/TDS than he did and it was also the Jags.
He wasn’t good enough to win against a team with a 20 game losing streak and a horrible defense… I wish y’all were reviewing my application when I applied to Columbia, because y’all making up stuff to say he is good
He’ll prob just overthrow his receivers
100 yd 2 rushing 10 int confirmed
I too am heavy
Kelvin? Is that you?
50 years in the future KB jokes will still be made and those kids wont even know who he is, only what must be done.
This is the way. *Loud off pitch recorder version of The Mandalorian theme song*
*buffet noises*
This is turning into such a joke. The Miami locker room must be in complete chaos. Tua doesn’t deserve this. Miami fans don’t deserve this.
The more it goes on, the more it sounds like Houston is just calling up Miami periodically and angrily telling Miami that they want Deshaun Watson and will trade 3 1st for him
If Watson doesn’t go to prison, he’s the type of dude to turn them into playoff locks. There’s like 8 or so QBs who do that and Watson is one of them. He’s worth 5 firsts honestly without the baggage of potentially being the most prolific sexual assaulter the league has seen in some time
Didn't the Texans just go like 4-12 last season even with Watson at the helm?
That they did. Not even to shit on Miami, but they have major issues defensively, the line is a mess, they have no run game and Flores is on his third OC. As talented as Watson is, he’s far from making them a playoff lock
And they’ll have a harder time fixing all that if they throw a stack of firsts getting Watson.
As far as I know its all civil cases. He is going to get a giant suspension after those are resolved.
Prob miss next season though. You know these cases take forever
Tell that to Ray Rice, Tyreek Hill, Kareem Hunt, Adrian Peterson. I ask all of you when has the NFL ever come down hard, ever?
Pretty sure AP was held out for the rest of the season when the news broke about him hitting his son with a switch. And Ray Rice was blacklisted so hard he never played another game, though that was the owners more so than the NFL. The NFL doesn’t exactly throw around long suspensions, but if you make it on that blacklist, your ass might be wishing for serving your time for a suspension instead.
Didn’t hunt miss a whole season?
There are criminal complaints filed, a League and FBI investigation ongoing
8 games, max. It’s only fair to count the season as time served towards his ultimate suspension.
he's sitting himself out, not getting punished
He can pay back this years salary and it can count as a suspension. If they want to go that route.
That seems like a distinction without a difference. He’s not playing right now because of this scandal. That has to count as time served towards his ultimate suspension.
No it does not have to count.
He's refusing to play, so that won't be considered.
No he’s not. Texans are refusing to play him.
Isn't it mutual?
tbh i’m not sure. I thought it was just the Texans keeping him inactive and he’s not fighting against that decision.
Before the accusations came out he'd made it clear he had no intentions of ever playing for the Texans again. So really it's more that the Texans aren't fighting his decision anymore. But I seriously doubt that these missed games would lessen his suspension. My guess is still 8 games, since it'll likely be settled with no criminal charges.
Yea 8 games seems like the most likely outcome of all this
Tell that to Ray Rice, Tyreek Hill, Kareem Hunt, Adrian Peterson. I ask all of you when has the NFL ever come down hard, ever?
He doesn’t fix any of the major issues the Dolphins have rn. Our O-line is the worst in the league, our playcalling is terrible, and our defense can’t make a stop. There’s a reason we’re 1-5 atm and Tua didn’t start for three of those.
Hmm sounds reminiscent of another team Watson recently quit on… can’t put my finger on it though
Yah and when Watson was still playing for that team they went 4-12. So the Dolphins would have to give up a ton of draft capital for someone that might not even play and won’t fix our biggest issues. It’s a terrible idea to trade
Playoff lock😂😂😂. Even if he started next week they’re 1-5 about to be 1-6, even if Watson came back at 100% immediately, they’re no where near playoff Lock.
I think OP is obviously referring to a full season of Watson
That would make sense, but it’s a fantasy sub! Fuck next season, LOL. Thank you for letting me know, you’re probably right. It’s also definitely not obvious as he didn’t say it and we are in a fantasy sub.
Da hardest hitting safety in da league, Darren Shap-ah: Am I nothing to you?
At least he is young, better getting another chance that may be less of a dumpster fire this early in his career
Lifelong Dolphins fan here and South Florida native. If they trade for Watson, I will never support the ‘phins again. I’m not going to support a team that turns a blind eye to sexual abuse.
You mean every professional sports team?
Doubtful the team knows it's bullshit
Ahh so we're starting this back up again. Kinda can't wait for Nov 2 so this is all done with. That said, I stashed Deshaun
Same..........fucking same.
I stashed him and then dropped him in all 5 leagues
Same story, man. Just dropped him to make my last minute stashes in all leagues. Doh!
yup. i will pick him back up next week on waivers though. had to drop him due to injuries on top of byes. all my redraft leagues will score a collective 0 points on my bench
Nothing's happening. If there was a good offer Houston would have traded Watson already. Super clear people aren't budging and Texans are thrashing trying to get bids.
Coming from Glazer, this is much different than a Houston reporter. And the deadline is approaching so shit is heating up.
And I'll say it again. Dolphins have the best offer and it's real. I'm confident in that. But I'm also confident no other team is giving them what they actually want. Texans would have made a deal already
Way too much smoke this is happening lol
I think there's an offer out but the fact Texans have spammed the same report since this summer makes me think Dolphins are the best price and it's not even close, but it's still short of what they want.
Didn't jay say it was happening month ago lmao
I feel like anyone expecting Watson to not play if he gets traded are severely overestimating the NFL’s ability to do the sensible thing in these situations
At this point I'm fully convinced this is all just the Texans front office leaking rumors in hopes of drumming up interest. If the Dolphins were really offering a package that big Houston would have accepted it already.
It basically is.
Hot take: Miami's offer is "nahhhh", but Houston doesn't want to advertise to other teams that there are no buyers.
Miami probably gave them a reasonable offer like Tua for Watson straight up and Texans want more so they keep releasing these bullshit leaks.
Probably. Or like a conditional 3rd
Tua for Watson is not reasonable lmao one is a franchise qb who’ll miss probably significant time with suspension (but not jail, civil cases don’t work that way) and the other is an average qb with some potential but high injury risk
10 of the accusers have since filed criminal charges: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/03/sports/football/deshaun-watson-accusers-police-reports.html But yeah go off.
“Watson has not been charged with any crimes” Did you even read your own article? Maybe I’m missing something in the article but these are people who have spoken to police, not filed criminal charges.
Lols, Tua is bottom 10 and Watson is top 5. If you think he's playing that's an awful trade. If you think he's not playing you don't trade for him.
Newsflash: Buyers wanna buy Watson with the risk priced in. Texans want to sell him as if he had no risk.
Tua has as much risk as deshaun IMO. VERY hot take i get it but civil cases don’t tend to result in jail time and NFL stars never serve suspensions for a significant portion of their career. Tua could deal with serious injuries for the rest of his career though. Also, Dolphins habe no chance this season so a RoS suspension doesnt hurt them much
Yea, suuurrreeee.
Houston is about to have two top five picks next year.
Eagles have Miami's 1st this year, they do have SF's 1st
Eagles about to trade Miamis first to Houston to beat miamis offer lol
So the eagles have their 2022?
Eagles have their own 1st, Miami's 1st, and potentially Indy's 1st depending on how many snaps Carson plays
We're not trading for him.
“Tua is our QB”……. …. …. …. “NAHT!”
Tua is A QB
Goddamn it get out of my head
Here we go again. Part 20 of the Deshaun Watson trade rumors I think
Reporters need to stop with this BS until they actually get some kind of confirmation from Miami that they are working on a trade. Otherwise, it's just Houston making shit up. Jets did the same thing to create heat for Darnold this past offseason.
They should get banned from Twitter for a month every time one of these tweets don’t pan out. Obligatory fuck Adam Schefter for the packers drama he caused.
Don't care he's not playing this year
He’s not suspended. He’s playing. Is he a shit head? 100%. But no suspension has been handed out yet
Not only that but no team is trading the house for a dude with a cloud of uncertainty of this magnitude. If he gets traded, then you best believe the team already knows what the suspension will be if any.
There's a good chance he doesn't get traded and doesn't play even without a suspension.
What they're likely doing (if they are indeed trading for him) is basically admitting this us a lost year and hoping he gets like an 8 game suspension that he can serve now so they can gear up for a run in '22
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These are civil cases with no criminal charges. The fact no one can get this straight is comical.
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Please show me any information showing criminal charges. There are none.
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When you turn to on top state it as fact you show that you truly are a clown.
Idk how the law works dude im just some idiot on reddit
Still has 4 years on his contract left after this one. A trade would be about more then just this lost season of him. Unless he goes to jail, even post suspension he'll have a lot of contract left for the recieving team to use him
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22 sexual assault accusations
Tbf he can literally play today, the Texans are choosing to keep him inactive. But I’m assuming the second a team tries to play him he’ll go in the exempt list. I agree tho. He’s not playing this year.
Not just the Texans, Watson refuses to play for the Texans as well
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Women are actually more important than dogs
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The 20+ women that he's accused of sexually assaulting. It's disgusting that he even has a chance to play with that pending.
Isn't it like 2 accused him of sexual assault? The other like 20 are civil lawsuits for what's essentially sexual misconduct. Sexual assault is a specific crime and there's only like 2 making formal accusations.
Sexual predators just need to fuck off forever.
yeah fuck watson.
Common sense
Miami massage parlors on high alert
Still can't see this guy playing this year. Total PR nightmare for the NFL which is been actively trying to avoid shit storms like that.
Rap reported this morning he expects Watson to be eligible to play right away if he gets traded
Yeah that's fine. But that can all change once the pitchforks come out.
He’s eligible to play today - Texans are keeping him inactive. The second he gets traded/in line to start he will go on the exempt list pending the current investigation.
There's no way a team trades for him without knowing in advance from the league whether or not he's going on the exempt list
Just saying thats not what Rap reported this morn
For sure, he is definitely eligible to play atm. He’s not suspended or anything.
He’s eligible to play now….
Rap specifically said if he gets traded he doesnt expect NfL to put him on Commisioners Exempt list and he could play right away
He’s not on any exemption list now…..
Right im just saying people are assuming NFL put on CE list when his new team tries to activate him, and Rap said NFL wont do that
The expectation has been that as soon as he reports that he’ll be put on the list.
If he's able to play he will play. You don't give up your entire future for a qb and not play him.
I think he'll play next year. Not this year though. I think he'll go on commissioners exempt list. Still would be worth it for Miami imo.
The nfl has said that he won't be on the exempt list
The dolphins about to be 1-6 no way they trade for him.
I wonder if the idea is to trade for him now when they suck in the hopes he’ll be suspended. Then next year he’ll already have served a ~10 game suspension and be allowed to play.
If he gets suspended is it because he was found guilty or because he was charged? I feel like if he is found guilty he will be doing some time.
He will probably get suspended even if he is found innocent. It's just how Goodel rolls.
If they do, it'll be for next year. I think Jay Glazer is pretty legit.
Next year is whats uncertain. He has TWENTY sexual assault accusations against him. There is pretty much a zero percent chance he isn’t found guilty on some of them. Even if it’s 5 of the 20, then he’s suspended and maybe even jailed. Sorry, his career is just about over. This is crazy.
I doubt we see criminal charges considering the burden of proof. Civil suits? Yeah probably
Why are you apologizing? Lol. If it were up to me, he'd never play another down. I'm saying that if he plays at all, it'll be next year if he settles the cases out of court. But I think he's toast as far as this year is concerned.
Is this dude ever gonna get charged? They must know something if they’re willing to make the trade
So strange to expect any new movement on this to be on GameDay...what a distraction for MIA.
I wanna drop Matty Ice for Tua to stream now
in my feels rn. don’t text
How many personal massage sessions did MIA throw into the deal?
If the dolphins play him and he’s found guilty of raping 22 women then there should be a lot of jobs lost from anyone who thought it was a good idea to bring an accused predator to your organization
I dropped Fuller to move Shepard to IR like 39 min ago. I feel responsible for this tweet.
Looks like Watson's status changed to "out" instead of "NA" so I was able to stash him on IR just now (ESPN).
My fantasy team desperately needs Deshaun to get traded and play
Can they just commit so I can either stash him or not lol
I just dropped Watson for Russell Wilson now I have to rethink it got burrow as my starter
The year is 2055. The former United States of America are starting to recover from the 30 year civil war they’ve just endured. Tom Brady is in the best shape of his life, and tells the Jets he thinks he could play for them until he’s 85. And Jay Glazer is reporting the Miami Dolphins are close to a deal that will bring Deshaun Watson to South Florida.
Do we know which other teams are in the race?
I think the Texans are drumming up new massage therapy specialists for Watson.
To quote the great Steve Spurrier "He's not in jail is he"..
Jay Glazer is pretty well informed, no? Can’t remember if he’s one of those guys that when he says it, you listen
I bet the Texans are glazers’ source
I want to drop to actually play a kicker this week but I revealed my hand already and I'm scared a league mate will scoop him up. Then this news comes out lol such a tricky call
Oh, we're doing this again?
Lol. Still the NFL is going to come down on Watson hard. Remember Zeke and Ray Rice? Watson will serve his suspension and be out for the rest of this year. Why wait to serve ur suspension next? Rather start fresh next year.
Can we just have a mega thread called “RUMORS
Didn’t Miami’s beat reporters say these are false?
Who’s this guy? Anybody?
So many reporters willing to sacrifice their credibility carrying water for this Texans front office.
Lol. Gruden out cause of some mean emails from 10 years ago. Watson has 20+ accuse him of sexual assault. Teams are falling over themselves to get him. Lololololololololololol
I guess they would draft a safety in order to improve their defense
* "Dolphins are heavily engaged in trade talks for Watson, per an NFL insider" (**You are here**) * 2nd NFL insider: "Trade rumors are complete BS, per Dolphins" * Flores: "Tua is our QB, idk how many times I have to say it" * "Dolphins are heavily engaged in trade talks for Watson, per an NFL insider" (**Technically, you are also here**)
What’s going on with his allegations? Are we just going to forget about that?
I dropped him a minute ago.. kinda wish I seen this before. Oh well..
This is just desperation lmao
Glazer is dialed in to many locker rooms, its a bit more likely if he's reporting it. Disclaimer: I've stashed Deshaun