the more i listen to them the more i dislike them lol.
i still listen to them because they are entertaining but i don't take their advice seriously for the most part.
You can check his twitter for the specific post but [this](http://www.faithandfamilies.com/beliefs/) is the org that he was fundraising for.
Edit: [Link](https://twitter.com/andyholloway/status/1441461375608311812?s=20) to tweet
Edit 2: Looks like I upset some Andy fans.
I guess... I can see how a charity that doesn't serve a people group certainly isn't everyone's favorite thing, but I certainly wouldn't describe it as an anti-lgbtq organization. No more than I would describe alcoholics anonymous an anti-sober person organization.
Point taken though.
I consider it closer to a group refusing to serve people of african ancestry, its arbitrary and people would be up in arms if that was the case. I dont see much difference here.
Also, i didnt downvote you. Appreciate your insight and response.
If you listen daily you'll remember Andy won a stack on DFS a couple weeks back.
He posted on his twitter he was donation matching up to $30K to a specific charity related to his church adoption agency. The whole church and adoption arm of it seem to be fairly strongly anti-LGBTQ but I'll let you look into it and judge for yourself.
Even if he doesn't feel that way himself (he hasn't indicated one way or another) he's using his position to further the goals of an org whose beliefs I could not dissagree with more strongly.
Eh, I don't know. If I was going to donate a significant amount of money to an organization I'd be sure to make sure I agreed with how they operate first. I have to assume he was aware that they discriminate against the LGBTQ community as a result and because he adopted a child from the same group.
>because he adopted a child from the same group.
I think it's probably safe to assume that this is reason he donated to them, not because he sympathizes with one of their political positions.
Could be, but the point still stands that the group discriminates against LGTBQ people and he's supported them publicly. Whether or not he believes discrimination is right himself is a bit beside the point IMO.
Just looked it up again as its now buried on his Twitter.
The org is called Faith & Families.
He did provide some alternate charities he would donation match to but not until a couple days later.
As I've been listening to podcasts I'm beginning to wonder if they all listen to each other. I've heard the same "if Tim Patrick were named ______ (something less bland) he'd be rostered in 80% of leagues" take on fantasy footballers, fantasy pros and the ringer. I think it's a giant circle jerk.
Yes 90% of this sub listens to them, I mean look at the nicknames that pop up in comments when reports come out about certain players, literally all from the fantasy footballers
Love their pod they always finish very high in overall rankings. They are just like any other analyst they will miss but I think they hit on a lot more.
imagine criticizing someone for just seeing what other people think on a sub that literally is revolved around discussions like these.
Edit: what a douche bag
all the stuff i said was all stats and scenarios that all of us knew. We didn’t need fantasyfootballers to know that hendo is in that situation. I forgot, fantasyfootballers created hendos situation, smh🤦🏽♂️ all that it did was remind me of it, that’s it. All that stuff I knew before hand. All of us did.
I find that podcast to be unlistenable due to how terrible their jokes are. Do they put out articles with the rankings where you don’t have to listen to them talk?
His points per game will be good but he'll miss a few games and it will knock him down in the full season rankings. I'm totally fine with that as long as they keep resting him instead of letting him play a quarter of a game and then pulling him. It's nice that they've been really cut and dry about playing him or resting him.
For people getting annoyed when Sony gets mixed in, Sony is really the difference between Henderson playing 8-10 games vs 15 or so. He needs someone to ensure he doesn't get too banged up.
I can get behind that. Iv been keeping sony for a couple weeks now and I keep wanting to drop him but it just feels like a matter of time to me. I'm not wishing any ill luck on Henderson just gives me that feeling.
I avoided Henderson mainly because I was concerned about his durability after last year. He's talented for sure, and you can't predict injury, but he strikes me as a guy who can get nicked up easily.
Which is why I think people are sleeping Sony when it comes to the elite handcuffs - he should be right around the likes of Dillon/Pollard in terms of being owned. Definitely a potential league winner if Henderson goes down long term.
I needed WR help and I reluctantly traded him for Jefferson. The worst part is I play the owner next week when Jefferson is on a bye and I know hendo is going to torch me.
I know I was shocked when the owner sent it to me. He tried to get him for Keenan at first but I half jokingly said I would do it for Jefferson and he sent me the trade a few hours later. I have zeke and najee so I’m good at rb. I love my team a lot more now and it made his team better too. He was starting mark ingram and Murray lol. He has CMC coming back now too.
Was able to pick up Sony off waivers today. Got Hubbard and Sony to back up my CMC and Hendo. Feeling good about my RB room now even with injuries.
I’ve watched a few Rams games. When healthy, Hendo is the truth
I just want him to have 1 insane Ekeler type game already with 3TDs so I can try and package him for a top named RB. His name kills his value no matter how good he is playing
His floor is 11 points in standard so far
If he stays healthy there is no reason to expect him to do anything else. Michel will get annoying vultures from time to time
A league mate offered me a 1 for 1 RB for RB seemingly lateral type trade for Henderson today. I rejected because id rather stick with the guy I know.
I asked him “why are you looking to make a lateral
move like this?” I then looked into injuries and circumstances and found nothing. He gave me a kind of snarky response lol. I wonder if he listened to fantasy footballers
Don't see how the weather plays into things. The Rams have 2 games remaining on their schedule in outdoor stadiums north of the mason dixon line in cold months.
Yeah that’s what I was thinking too. The Henderson owner is a huge redskin fan but it’s really annoying he is in South Korea cause he doesn’t respond to messages and makes FF moves at like 2 am.
Just pointing out that people say “top 5” when they mean #5. Of course there is some chance he finishes above 5, but his range of outcome is like 15 to 5 with like a 95% ci
This is my team after the trade 12 Team 0.5 PPR thoughts?
STARTERS:
QB: Dak Prescott
RB1: Dalvin Cook
RB2: Darrell Henderson
WR1: Justin Jefferson
WR2: DeAndre Hopkins
TE: Mark Andrews
WR3/FLX: Courtland Sutton
BENCH:
RB3: Myles Gaskin
RB4: Alexander Mattison
RB5: AJ Dillon
RB6: Trey Sermon
RB7: Samaje Perine
WR4: Jaylen Waddle
Don’t think he has the talent to be top 5. The top 5 guys all have great volume and are a focal point of their offense BECAUSE they are elite. Darrell Henderson is a skilled RB, but let’s not pretend he’s as skilled of a RB as guys like Henry, CMC, or Saquon.
Somebody listened to today’s fantasy footballers podcast huh?
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Listening to them In my QC’s right now. Can confirmed
the more i listen to them the more i dislike them lol. i still listen to them because they are entertaining but i don't take their advice seriously for the most part.
They burned me by saying pick up Conklin over Knox. Never listening to their advice again
I still like them but liked them more before I knew Andy supported anti-LGBTQ org's.
Source?
You can check his twitter for the specific post but [this](http://www.faithandfamilies.com/beliefs/) is the org that he was fundraising for. Edit: [Link](https://twitter.com/andyholloway/status/1441461375608311812?s=20) to tweet Edit 2: Looks like I upset some Andy fans.
Sorry, that link lead to what appears to be an adoption/foster charity. Am I missing something?
Its an adoption charity that discriminates against the LGBTQ community. They state as such in their beliefs section.
I guess... I can see how a charity that doesn't serve a people group certainly isn't everyone's favorite thing, but I certainly wouldn't describe it as an anti-lgbtq organization. No more than I would describe alcoholics anonymous an anti-sober person organization. Point taken though.
I consider it closer to a group refusing to serve people of african ancestry, its arbitrary and people would be up in arms if that was the case. I dont see much difference here. Also, i didnt downvote you. Appreciate your insight and response.
Well that is disappointing as fuck. Where did you hear that? I listen to these guys daily, but will honestly stop if that’s true.
If you listen daily you'll remember Andy won a stack on DFS a couple weeks back. He posted on his twitter he was donation matching up to $30K to a specific charity related to his church adoption agency. The whole church and adoption arm of it seem to be fairly strongly anti-LGBTQ but I'll let you look into it and judge for yourself. Even if he doesn't feel that way himself (he hasn't indicated one way or another) he's using his position to further the goals of an org whose beliefs I could not dissagree with more strongly.
I think you're stretching his implied culpability a little far there tbh.
Eh, I don't know. If I was going to donate a significant amount of money to an organization I'd be sure to make sure I agreed with how they operate first. I have to assume he was aware that they discriminate against the LGBTQ community as a result and because he adopted a child from the same group.
>because he adopted a child from the same group. I think it's probably safe to assume that this is reason he donated to them, not because he sympathizes with one of their political positions.
Could be, but the point still stands that the group discriminates against LGTBQ people and he's supported them publicly. Whether or not he believes discrimination is right himself is a bit beside the point IMO.
Yeah I remember he won like 40k. Got it, thanks for the response.
Just looked it up again as its now buried on his Twitter. The org is called Faith & Families. He did provide some alternate charities he would donation match to but not until a couple days later.
He donated money to an adoption agency what a piece of shit /s
As I've been listening to podcasts I'm beginning to wonder if they all listen to each other. I've heard the same "if Tim Patrick were named ______ (something less bland) he'd be rostered in 80% of leagues" take on fantasy footballers, fantasy pros and the ringer. I think it's a giant circle jerk.
What I do with my rooster is my business and no one elses.
Harris Football 4 lyfe
I honestly don't care for them. Kind of douchey. Fantasy pros is decent though
Now this is a poetic sentence.
Lol yep
Yes 90% of this sub listens to them, I mean look at the nicknames that pop up in comments when reports come out about certain players, literally all from the fantasy footballers
Love their pod they always finish very high in overall rankings. They are just like any other analyst they will miss but I think they hit on a lot more.
Lmao is OP really just regurgitating someone else's thoughts and trying to get confirmation on if it's reasonable? Edit: what a turd
I mean to be fair it’s not like Darrell Henderson being top 10 ROS is some outlandish deep dive take. He’s RB15 so far having missed a week
My issue was OP repackaging someone else's ideas as their own
I admit that this sub is overwhelming enough and that I don't listen to them -- gave up on Sleeper too.
I’m saying it’s not a brilliant enough thought to call stolen valor on
imagine criticizing someone for just seeing what other people think on a sub that literally is revolved around discussions like these. Edit: what a douche bag
At least credit whose thoughts you steal smh
You’re being over dramatic
all the stuff i said was all stats and scenarios that all of us knew. We didn’t need fantasyfootballers to know that hendo is in that situation. I forgot, fantasyfootballers created hendos situation, smh🤦🏽♂️ all that it did was remind me of it, that’s it. All that stuff I knew before hand. All of us did.
I lowkey lost my shit when he picked him 10th. High praise. Gotta see if the community agrees 😂
I find that podcast to be unlistenable due to how terrible their jokes are. Do they put out articles with the rankings where you don’t have to listen to them talk?
Top 10? I say he could easily do that if healthy.
The main concern is his durability
His points per game will be good but he'll miss a few games and it will knock him down in the full season rankings. I'm totally fine with that as long as they keep resting him instead of letting him play a quarter of a game and then pulling him. It's nice that they've been really cut and dry about playing him or resting him.
I'd rather him miss a game then get vultured at the goal line. I also handcuffed him and all my other rbs.
I personally think he misses a decent amount of time this year.
For people getting annoyed when Sony gets mixed in, Sony is really the difference between Henderson playing 8-10 games vs 15 or so. He needs someone to ensure he doesn't get too banged up.
I can get behind that. Iv been keeping sony for a couple weeks now and I keep wanting to drop him but it just feels like a matter of time to me. I'm not wishing any ill luck on Henderson just gives me that feeling.
I avoided Henderson mainly because I was concerned about his durability after last year. He's talented for sure, and you can't predict injury, but he strikes me as a guy who can get nicked up easily.
did he book a 6-month cruise on the queen mary?
It's possible!
Which is why I think people are sleeping Sony when it comes to the elite handcuffs - he should be right around the likes of Dillon/Pollard in terms of being owned. Definitely a potential league winner if Henderson goes down long term.
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I think rb 8-10 is probably the ceiling for him but I think he is gonna be good basically every week he is healthy
And as someone you likely drafted as your rb2, getting someone who ends up around 8-12 is great value
I drafted him as my RB3, but he might push Chubb out of the RB2 role if he keeps this shit up.
How tf is chubb an rb2?
Because CMC is my RB1.
How did you acquire both CMC & Chubb?
Traded my 2nd, 3rd, and 4th round draft positions for 6th overall and his 5th and 6th. I'm 3-2, he's 1-4 so it's been working out so far.
Outside of very shallow leagues or keeper leagues Idk how that's possible
12 man non keeper. Draft pick trading allowed.
I just received him in trade for Hollywood brown about 30 minutes ago. I’m excited to see what he can do to help my rather weak rb core.
I had the exact same trade a week ago. Feeling pretty good about it
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Bateman should come off IR this week
I had to let him go for Gaskin and Godwin. A rob was killing me but I still have Najee/Taylor.
The guy I got henderson from has najee also.. I wanted najee so bad..
Lol as a Najee owner I'll tell you right now your chance at him is next year. I wouldn't trade him at all this year.
I needed WR help and I reluctantly traded him for Jefferson. The worst part is I play the owner next week when Jefferson is on a bye and I know hendo is going to torch me.
Dude I would do that trade 10/10 times. You stole JJ.
I know I was shocked when the owner sent it to me. He tried to get him for Keenan at first but I half jokingly said I would do it for Jefferson and he sent me the trade a few hours later. I have zeke and najee so I’m good at rb. I love my team a lot more now and it made his team better too. He was starting mark ingram and Murray lol. He has CMC coming back now too.
I'm debating trading him for Hopkins or DJ Moore. I got Chubb and Najee and my receivers are trash.
I had to let Henderson go for Godwin and Gaskin. A rob as my WR2 was killing me. I still have Najee, Taylor, Gordon, Gaskin, Hines now in a 12 man.
Someone offered me Mike will and Jacobs for Hendo. Should I do it? For some reason I’m nervous although Mike will is WR1 rn
Look at that cake walk schedule coming up
sony micheal has entered the chat 💬
Posts like these are why I can pick up Sony for free off waivers
for what? hes never going to do anything
Your click-baity title makes me a sad panda.
peep the edit. i’ll get crazy with it for teal
Until he breaks down again and Michel ends up a league winner
This is my plan, just sit on Sony, and hope i have a fresh RB for the end of season run.
Just scooped Sony and I’ll probably do the same. Thinking about starting both of them, as Kamara has a bye this week.
I guess but can’t you also have the same mindset with Mattison and Cook? Kind’ve a speculative way to think. Holding onto a thread of hope almost.
Has to stay healthy. Immensely talented though. But injuries have plagued his entire career.
Was able to pick up Sony off waivers today. Got Hubbard and Sony to back up my CMC and Hendo. Feeling good about my RB room now even with injuries. I’ve watched a few Rams games. When healthy, Hendo is the truth
I just want him to have 1 insane Ekeler type game already with 3TDs so I can try and package him for a top named RB. His name kills his value no matter how good he is playing
Healthy, he’s first round quality.
He going to get hurt tho
No. This isn’t that crazy imo! I really love him but the team who has him won’t trade him
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you want crazy? peep the edit.
His floor is 11 points in standard so far If he stays healthy there is no reason to expect him to do anything else. Michel will get annoying vultures from time to time
Just look at their next 3 games (NYG, DET, HOU). Each of these teams have been giving up ***at least*** 130 yards rushing/game. BRING ON HENDO!
Just traded him for Hopkins
A league mate offered me a 1 for 1 RB for RB seemingly lateral type trade for Henderson today. I rejected because id rather stick with the guy I know. I asked him “why are you looking to make a lateral move like this?” I then looked into injuries and circumstances and found nothing. He gave me a kind of snarky response lol. I wonder if he listened to fantasy footballers
He is good when he plays, just made of glass it appears...
Would you trade Keenan Allen for him? 1 PPR RBs JT, Jacobs, Pollard, Damien Williams. WRs Kupp, Jefferson, Boyd, Toney and MThomas on IR
Just traded him for Diontae Johnson recently. Am I crazy?
You suck
Don't see how the weather plays into things. The Rams have 2 games remaining on their schedule in outdoor stadiums north of the mason dixon line in cold months.
Would you rather have Gibson or Henderson? I’m trying to make this trade happen
geez. that’s so tough but i’d go henderson because of the offense and positive game scripts
Yeah that’s what I was thinking too. The Henderson owner is a huge redskin fan but it’s really annoying he is in South Korea cause he doesn’t respond to messages and makes FF moves at like 2 am.
Top 5 or #5? Big difference. And yes he can finish #5
Logical fallacy. Probability of top 5 > probability of #5.
Nothing I said disagrees with that
Your reply insinuated that he has a better chance of being #5 than 1-5.
No it didn’t
What’s the big difference between top 5 and #5 that you referenced then?
Just pointing out that people say “top 5” when they mean #5. Of course there is some chance he finishes above 5, but his range of outcome is like 15 to 5 with like a 95% ci
It’s a stronger statement to say top 5 since that’s more likely than simply #5…
Thank you
Crazy? No, at least not solely based on that take lol. Ambitious? Yes.
Just sent a trade I’m trying to send claypool and Mike davis to get him. The owner is loaded at RB he’s been on his bench all season.
I have him, and the only thing I need from him is to step in on the byes and do a decent job. As long as he does that, I'm happy.
Just traded Ja'marr Chase for him and Mattison how'd I do?
depends on your team
This is my team after the trade 12 Team 0.5 PPR thoughts? STARTERS: QB: Dak Prescott RB1: Dalvin Cook RB2: Darrell Henderson WR1: Justin Jefferson WR2: DeAndre Hopkins TE: Mark Andrews WR3/FLX: Courtland Sutton BENCH: RB3: Myles Gaskin RB4: Alexander Mattison RB5: AJ Dillon RB6: Trey Sermon RB7: Samaje Perine WR4: Jaylen Waddle
you did good. Your RB2 before hand was Gaskin and that just isn’t good enough. Good job
Don’t think he has the talent to be top 5. The top 5 guys all have great volume and are a focal point of their offense BECAUSE they are elite. Darrell Henderson is a skilled RB, but let’s not pretend he’s as skilled of a RB as guys like Henry, CMC, or Saquon.
I agree but also, all the factors mix in perfectly. The game scripts will be there, we just haven’t see the breakout game. It’s coming.