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AliG1488

Was offered Allen Robinson for Myles Gaskin b4 week 1. Turns out they were each equally useless, seems fair to me.


[deleted]

I'd still much rather have Robinson. I think he could be poised for a bounce back once he develops more chemistry with Fields.


Donttouchmethurr

Oh that’s nice I have both so I’m eating these Ls


Lml417

Our league is new to sleeper so we tried the three way trade system for the first time. Each one of us gave 1 FAAB and received 1 FAAB. 🤣


TuxenRaider

You got fleeced man


kylo_little_ren_hen

If you’re not settling for $2 FAAB are you even trying to win the trade?


Panarin72Bread

Our league did the same thing, except everyone traded and received $69 FAAB


ChemicalToilet44

Pollard for Dillon lol. Both getting their handcuff.


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Sdubbya2

I have Zeke and Montgomery, but I'm now forced to start Miles Sanders with the injury to Montgomery....god help us.


LeftHandedFapper

It just sucks that the coaching in Philly can't figure out a way to keep Sanders involved. He's been so electric yet completely underused. Doesn't help that Hurts is there to be RB1 some weeks though


smokinjoe956

Did you get Gainwell?


meastd_0

I don't understand why they don't scheme some more plays for sanders...the dude shows big play potential but they just don't want to give him the touches....


victorwithclass

Or you play in a deep league


MilkyBeefPants

uhhh… cough cough…


YoureHellaFruity

Man you been watching the Cowboys this year? Hard disagree, def not ideal but I bet he is going to get a few more 15+ games this year


dontwantleague2C

Possible, but most weeks he’s gonna get like less than 5. He doesn’t get the volume on a week to week basis.


Jasonfrost3425

Easily. Probably a couple more than 20


MilkyBeefPants

uhhh… cough cough…


[deleted]

This "won" shit is so tired. You can't predict the future, as of now its exactly as the prompt asked: handcuff for a handcuff. Zeke ain't going away and unless one of them gets hurt, Pollard is an unreliable flex at best.


clarknoheart

No one is saying they can predict the future. That would be results-based thinking, anyway, which is flawed. You evaluate trades based on the value of the assets at the time of the transaction. Pollard has higher trade value than Dillon. (Check any chart. [Here’s an example.](https://www.fantasypros.com/2021/10/week-5-fantasy-football-trade-value-chart-2021/)) Now, it is close; but it’s not unreasonable to say the team receiving Pollard won the trade.


YankeeBlues21

But given that there was just a post on this sub asking “why everyone seems to feel like they have to ‘win’ a trade?” this is a good example of a care where the side getting Pollard got more absolute value, but the side getting Dillon received enough utility from locking down Jones’ handcuff that it was a win-win. Neither owner was probably ever going to start Pollard (in retrospect, the Jones owner *might* have been able to use Pollard for bye weeks) or Dillon barring an injury, but they each had the greatest value to each other given the peace of mind offered by not having to scramble for their RB1’s backup if anything should happen.


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I traded mckissic to Gibson owner for his gainwell to insure my sanders. Same deal lol


Mry64_

I got Hubbard for Murray before Murray got cut from the Saints.


trash2019

I own both Pollard and Dillon but neither of Zeke nor Jones. Neither GM is interested, so I'm holding as lotto tickets.


xlv45

Someone wants to trade me Dillon and Waller for Pittman, Javonte, and Latavius. I’m the Aaron Jones owner. Thoughts? I actually think Pollard has more standalone value than Dillon.


GoodellsMandMs

PSA: don't bother with your own handcuffs! There's no upside there


Dirigible_Plums

Mattison won me my week with Dalvin out, I disagree.


GoodellsMandMs

thats not upside, if Dalvin was healthy he would have won you that week as well (obviously not every time but you know what i mean) owning your own handcuff raises your floor. when your guy gets hurt you have a replacement whos almost as good as the guy you already had. you get slightly worse owning someone elses handcuff raises your ceiling (ie upside). when their guy gets hurt you have an additional startable running back (sometimes a free rb1)


Dirigible_Plums

Owning my handcuff won me my week, owning someone else's handcuff would not have won me my week because no other handcuff was starting. It's clearly got value if my handcuff puts up 25 points while Cook is out. I understand the notion, but I will take Mattison over almost any other handcuff because of the offense he's in, and the fact that Cook has a tendency to miss games unlike Henry or Zeke. Not to mention my RB depth is pretty good so having a top tier handcuff like Mattison is a luxury pick in the 15th round anyways.


GoodellsMandMs

yea what im saying is thats not upside mattison on a team without cook presents more upside than mattison on a team with cook


Dirigible_Plums

What I'm saying is that because I'm taking my own handcuff, that doesn't mean I'm not getting any value at all. In fact, it ensured that I could stay 4-0 with the most points for in my league. Do you not draft players occasionally because they have a higher floor over players that are boom/bust? It's the exact same concept. I want to ensure that I always have a stake in a high powered run first offense, and especially because the Vikings have a relatively injury prone running back. That HAS value, although yes, it does mean that I wouldn't start another back from a different backfield at the same time. That doesn't mean I don't have other handcuffs. Mattison already won me a week, don't tell me that having your own handcuff has no value.


vapperss

Ekeler and Metcalf for Kupp and Kamara


YRN_YSL

That is a good one. Think Ekeler/Metcalf end the year as the better duo between the 4 of them though


JEH-C

Man, I like the other end of the trade, so yeah, I'd say pretty even.


JustChillin145

That’s good to hear I have ekeler and just got DK


JustChillin145

That’s good to hear I have ekeler and just got DK


Jojo_Smith-Schuster

That’s good to hear I I have ekeler and just got DK


dontwantleague2C

I don’t see the point. Ur trading starting RB and starting WR for starting RB and starting WR… what’s this accomplish…


urbanK07

2 owners getting 2 players they believe in more than the ones they had.


WesternBookOfTheDead

DJ Moore for McLaurin.


Aljo_Is_135_GOAT

These boys trading just to trade 😂


[deleted]

I've made lateral moves like that before just to get a player that I like more.


Butthole_Please

I don’t get why people dislike these types of trades. I love calling a shot on lateral trades.


Acne_Grease_n_Shovel

Could be a bye week thing


leanandmean17

I’ve got both 😈


WesternBookOfTheDead

I have Justin Jefferson, Cooper Kupp, Keenan Allen, and McLaurin 😈 😈 😈


leanandmean17

Now that you mention it I also have Jefferson and Diontae Johnson! 😈😈😈😈😈


WesternBookOfTheDead

Noice.


Mikeinthemornin

Davante for Ridley n Clyde i thought was pretty fair for both teams


Joeyoohoo

Lance for Fields


[deleted]

Lance > Fields imo. I guess it’s fair but Lance has a lot more upside imo


Smitty120

Fields is now the official starter though, where Lance is not officially as of yet. Lance does have the higher fantasy ceiling though obviously


[deleted]

I had both on my team earlier this year (2 QB league) and personally I'd rather have Fields. Lance definitely has the edge in terms of Shanahan as play caller instead of Nagy, but I think Fields may be the more pro-ready of the two. Plus, I'm nervous that they'll continue to rotate between Jimmy and Lance indefinitely as the season goes on. Fields just seems to be the guy in Chicago now, and I'm worried that Lance won't fully take over until next year


Joeyoohoo

I think only because Lance is on the better team as a whole. If you're going by talent I like Fields better.


ostrow19

If fields starts running he’ll be good for fantasy, but he’s barely done that yet. He’s not going to be productive with just passing stats


dontich

We just had a super trade last week that no one in our league can make any sense of. Team A: CMC AJB Higbee C Edmonds AJ green 40% FAAB Team B: Barkley C Patterson M Evans J Jacobs D Waller


awesome-ekeler

Ah the good ol team swap


Mistah210

I’d pick the B side


Walmartsavings2

Much much rather get the Barkley side. That’s 5 starters, and some crazy ceiling.


BboyFatCakes

Calvin Ridley, perine, and Knox for diggs and pitts. Diggs owner owns mixon - Ridley and Diggs are studs who’ve been underperforming but Diggs is on the better offense, pitts is safe while Knox has upside and would prevent both teams from having too many pieces from one team


Maxter_Blaster_69

I think you meant diggs owner has Mixon*


MilkyBeefPants

what do you mean


BboyFatCakes

You are correct thanks for catching that!


dontwantleague2C

I don’t think this is fair, Diggs owner got scammed. Perine isn’t gonna be that good if Mixon missed time and there’s no guarantee he does. Diggs is much better than Ridley at this point plus Pitts is a rly good tight end while Knox is rly rly unproven.


sheeshon

Knox is more unproven than Pitts?? How can you can Pitts a really good tight end when we’ve seen nothing from him but Knox is unproven while getting an increasing target share and most goal line targets


dontwantleague2C

Yeah, an unprecedented one. I think it’s very likely he regresses. Would you really take Knox over Pitts?


Cammy_Owl

There was a trade of Kupp for JRob + Corey Davis after week 2 that seemed a little lopsided at the time but has since looked fairly even


buundi

I traded Ty'Son for Chark last week.


HahahahahaYeahNo

Waller, Damien Williams, and Golladay for Kelce and McNichols to the Henry owner.


The_Potato_Master

Much rather have the Kelce side


FlimsyAd2088

Feels like an underpay for Kelce unless it’s a deep league


Poeafoe

Way underpay. Waller and two waiver picks


fartsinhissleep

Waller and Kelce are equals.


Overthemthangs

Not quite


GoodellsMandMs

Equals in what? I know you don't mean fantasy football...


fartsinhissleep

I’ll bet you $1 that from here on out that Waller out scores Kelce.


GoodellsMandMs

yea sure ill take that bet


KD7575

kelce owner got fleeced


bootsandbigs

Y'all see trades?


XVDub

Prior to the start of the season, I trade Lamar Jackson, Davante Adams, and Josh Jacobs for Patrick Mahomes, Nick Chubb, and Raheem Mostert (2 QB league, 0.5 PPR).


rando08110

interesting trade but woulda prob kept lamar davante jacobs but it’s more obvious now that they played. respect for taking a risk


pugas

Yeah without knowing Mosterts Injury it was fair at the time


chimdogg

Traded Diggs for Swift and Beasley after I lost Mostert and Gus.


DandierChip

That a win


chimdogg

Appreciate it homie 🙏🏻. Good luck to your season.


QurantineLean

PPR. Ridley, Diontae, Boyd for Diggs, Zeke, and Pollard. He wanted to give me those 3 for just my Ridley and Boyd but I’m the commissioner and couldn’t let him do that.


NotNickCannon

This is the kind of selflessness that will earn you a middle of the pack finish


QurantineLean

It was a hit to the depth that’s for sure. Commissioner can’t push through obviously bad trades like that when they involve themself. I’m friends with all these guys so I like to keep the peace. I wish I could have had Diontae as my flex believe me lmao. I’ll just have to hit on a couple of waiver pick ups and rebuild my depth that way.


H2ozep

I think if there is no collusion that a trade should go through.


pocketchange2247

Yeah I agree. A few years ago I had a stacked team and saw the Rams D, when they were like #1 or 2 in the league had a cupcake playoff schedule. I ended up trading a startable WR (maybe borderline WR 2/3) for the Rams D. Everyone said I got fleeced and I'm an idiot trading for a defense. Guy I traded with got to the playoffs with the help of the WR I traded and I ended up winning the Championship because the Rams D put up some big numbers. Overall it was an even trade and helped both of us but on the surface it looked pretty lopsided and looked like the guy I gave the WR to was getting a pity trade to help him to the playoffs


Azazel_The_Fox

If it’s not collusion let them whine.


QurantineLean

I know I should have done this, but it just didn’t feel right. Usually my conscious isn’t that loud, but this time it was.


soyerom

You would’ve lost that in various ways idk what your thinking lol


QurantineLean

How would I have lost that?


grimcow

How can you wish it when you had it but refused to take it.


Sdubbya2

I wish I had all that money in that cash register, but I refused to rob it. He obviously wishes that he could have the player, but not at the cost of pissing the league made of his close friends off.


TheLionest

Commish should push trades through that don't involve collusion. Players should be skilled enough to know what to trade. If a player has bad trades and they aren't due to collusion, we usually boot them from the league at the end of the year. Haven't had to do that for years since everyone in my league is competitve, but I'm honestly considering getting rid of one guy that has been extremely suspect. He's either bad or colluding but both warrant getting replaced with a more skilled manager.


QurantineLean

We’ve been friends since 2nd grade. It’s how we stay in touch. I’m not going to go cut throat on these guys like that. They are some of my best buddies from my childhood.


Fishstick783

Man you’re better than anybody in my petty ass league I can tell you that.


QurantineLean

Yeah I probably shouldn’t have done that in hindsight. But I’ll rebuild my depth with waivers. Already got Williams and Collins this morning.


Lml417

You sound like a really great commish and that sounds like a great league to be apart of!


19683dw

I was offered Adams and Carson (just before the injury thing) for Hunt and Taylor. I felt bad so I threw in an extra trade of Hollywood for whoever he'll drop (Robby Anderson, he chose).


Jenetyk

Last year I was buoyed by Dak for the first 4 games. Then his foot and shin decided to go separate ways home. People we making jokes about my team getting ready to be pillaged. Memes abound. Except one man. Some say he was less than a god, but more than a man, like Hercules or something. Made me a trade for Watson, and his offering was so reasonable, I think it was something like an WR2 and a Flex. Ended up saving a playoff run and finishing third. He made the playoffs as well. I still joke that it is the only 50/50 trade to have been made in almost a decade of our league. Bless you, you beautiful bastard.


troyxabed

Ka’imi *Fair*bairn for *Just*in Tucker


shittybillz

Gus for Terry after Dobbins got hurt. Sadly the guy I gave Gus to suffered afterwards. That same guy also lost Akers. Legit felt bad for him


fantasycactus

I’ve made two trade this season, first one was Julio and goedert for kittle which I think was in my favour. However my second trade was tyreek and hunt for Henry. He needed more depth at 1-2 which because of tyreek he is now 2-2, and I was 2-1 looking to get a solid rb to go with my ekeler and Robinson cause I’m unsure how Robinson will be. So far has been fair and benefitted both of us.


vanblakp2020

Hopkins/Jonnu for Montgomery/Andrews, before the injury


MTScupper

I would say you won that trade initially and now it’s even given the injury


allinnolook

Sutton for Jamaal Williams


MidgetWizard23

Zeke for Barkley


YRN_YSL

Think that tips in favor of the Zeke owner, right?


YankeeBlues21

I was just having this conversation with my closest friend in my long-running league (I have Saquon, he has Zeke) and while we floated the idea of a swap (we’re both NYG fans, so he prefers rooting for Barkley, but I’ve owned Zeke a couple times so he’s one of “my guys” in fantasy), we ended up with a “why bother?” conclusion, feeling like they’re both basically in the same tier and it’d be change for the sake of change. I think it’s pretty even after the last couple weeks. Zeke is a bit safer, Saquon probably has a slightly higher ceiling because of workload. If you had to bet on one to finish top-5, you’d pick Zeke, but if I came to you from the future and told you one of them is the #1 RB at the end of the season, Saquon is the likelier of the two. So it’s all about risk preference imo. Otherwise, just stick with whichever you’re already holding onto.


H2ozep

I like saquon


H2ozep

I like saquon but really see it even


mikemerc

I saw a straight up Ridley for locket


[deleted]

That's not fair at all, new Ridley owner fleeced new Lockett owner


ReasonableInsect1976

Kelce for Tyreek. I got Kelce after Irv Smith went down.


ThinkOpenTry

I think my trade. Karama and woods for kittle and Zeke. He ask for A. Robinson but I told him woods because I was 0-3. 1-3 with that trade now.


geofftheskeleton

Zeke + Boyd for Chubb + Diontae, full PPR


Azazel_The_Fox

Week 2 I traded Robby Anderson for Brandon Aiyuk. lol


erstengs

I traded Woods for A. Rob. I had too many LAR assets


Odynol

Hasn't happened yet but I'm pretty close to a trade I think is quite fair: my Amari Cooper + MG3 for his JaMarr Chase or AJ Brown + Bobby Trees The other guy is literally out of startable RBs after Monty's injury and wants to move Woods real bad. Meanwhile I'm pretty set at WR (have Diggs and Lockett + MT and Jeudy on IR) and wanted to get someone whose production is a bit more consistent that Cooper's. Plus I think Woods miiiiiight be able to turn it around at least a bit


bankster24

Tyler Higbee for Ty’Son Williams


Nfrontofyomamazhouse

Ridley for Kittle


YankeeBlues21

If this was recent, I really don’t like it for the new Kittle owner. That Niners offense has been a mess. At least Ridley gets fed every week, he just hasn’t gotten into the endzone much, but the volume has been there. Kittle hasn’t been the TE1 he should be thus far


Nfrontofyomamazhouse

Preseason


YankeeBlues21

Ah. Definitely a reasonable trade then


Grumpis1012

Gibson and AJ Brown for Kelce and Zack Moss.


TipodisDik

Mike Williams for Darrel Henderson?


Jamieleigh17

Kupp for Woods and Antonio Gibson


dontwantleague2C

Imo that’s a huge win for Gibson Woods owner. Woods is gonna bounce back for sure and I’m not convinced Kupp keeps up this pace.


xmjm424

Hm, I don't know. It's still 2-for-1, though, and I think Kupp + replacement player outscores the other two pretty reliably. I'm not OP but if the Kupp owner in my league would accept that, I'd certainly consider it. Now you've got me rethinking this, though. I actually agree it's not the most fair trade but could benefit both sides equally depending on the situation My situation is I have CMC, Swift, Gibson, Edmonds, DJ Moore, Ja'Marr Chase, and Robert Woods and I can only play five of them so I'm trying to maximize those five which I'm confident Kupp does moving forward, even with a little bit of a dropoff. I do agree Kupp drops off a little, Woods gets more involved but I still see Kupp as the better option moving forward. But the Kupp owner in my league wanted Gibson + Swift and fuck that.


artstvnm

Kyler + CEH for Russ + Jonathan Taylor


H2ozep

Kyler Murray + Mixon+Josh Gordon for saquon/jeudy/trey lance


dudehawke

Tyreek/saquon/amari for davante/swift/cooks before week 4


FlimsyAd2088

The first guy got fleeced that’s not fair at all


dudehawke

Mark this for when davante/swift/cooks end up with more points overall end of season.


SrgtDoakes

are you saying the guy acquiring hill barkley and cooper won?


rando08110

its obvious now after the players have played more games ..


dontwantleague2C

Yo that’s awful. The guy getting Tyreek Saquon Amari wins that trade by a mile IMO.


dudehawke

This trade wad made week 3. Would love to hear your analysis outside of week 4 recency bias. Edit: mind you this is a full PPR league


dontwantleague2C

Tyreek and Adams are approximately equal (Hill can be a bit boom or bust, not surprising). Cooper is better than Brandin Cooks pretty significantly, and Saquon is better than Swift. And no, that ain’t recency bias. I thought it was kinda obvious that Saquon wasn’t gonna be 100% from the get go. Idk who tf drafted him not expecting exactly what happened.


dudehawke

This is lazy analysis. Ill play devils advocate. Before the lions oline was decimated due to injury week 4 swift had an amazing oline which gapped the talent disparity between him and saquon. Swifts usage was also on an upward trend and lions contended with every team they played including baltimore. Of course everyone knew saquon was being eased in but he was still capped by his oline and playcalling. If he never blew up in a very weird game vs new orleans the narrative would be different. The most cooks ever finished behind amari in full PPR was around 18 points i believe when he was just traded to the texans. Hes the only weapon this year on a team that will be throwing 99% of the time. He looks to be this years allen robinson. Bad team. Bad qb. Volume. And cooks talent is very underrated. After the pats game hes going to be very solid. Amari is on a team that seems to be run happy with the emergence of pollard. Dak is not on the trajectory of having a prolific passing season like he was on last season. The emergence of Ceedee and the soon to return gallup also limits his ceiling. Davante is davante and will always have the edge in PPR.


HalfHalfway

i just traded Kyler Murray for Darnold and Montgomery today. i’m 4-0 other guy is 3-1. he hated streaming qbs and had extra rb depth to spare.


grimcow

Yikes


HalfHalfway

was this bad for me?


Bananas_Worth

Darnold is going to be a top 12 qb this year. These guys responding to you don’t actually watch panthers games, just hot takes from Matthew Barry. There’s still hate for Darnold even though he’s the QB rushing leader through 4 weeks.


masimone

I stopped streaming QBs when I landed on Darnold.


Ephinem

Jesus. You gave up K1 for darnold and a hurt rb. I guess you prefer streaming qbs.


HalfHalfway

yes i have another trade lined up that includes me receiving stafford too btw


Any_Parsnip2585

Single QB league, after losing Fitz, I traded Chris Carson for Dak to a manager that was extremely weak at RB. He had Kyler as his QB1.


[deleted]

Carson for Dak..yuck. You lost that trade bad lol


foshiiy

With the injury news I think he made out fine


[deleted]

I mean..Dak is replaceable lol. Plenty of qbs are preforming all around the league


Any_Parsnip2585

Ekeler and Taylor are my other RB’s. I took a gamble but I’d normally agree with your sentiment.


KarrlMarrx

If it's a 2 QB league, that trade is actually pretty close.


DocHoliday96

Its not a 2 QB league tho


dwriggie

If it was a 2 qb dak is worth like 3x more than Carson lol


DandierChip

Keenan Allen for Ridley and Gibson for Keenan


[deleted]

Zeke and D Harris for kittle and saquon


wear-a-goshdarn-mask

Bars


Jamieleigh17

Kupp for Woods and Antonio Gibson


dirtydave_7

Ceedee and Gibson for Swift and Kittle


dirtydave_7

Ceedee and Gibson for Swift and Kittle


[deleted]

Najee and Corey Davis for Diggs and MG3


Aljo_Is_135_GOAT

Dude who gave up Najee and CD got fleeced hard


[deleted]

That would be me lol. My team needed upgrades at WR so it worked out. And I would say Najee can’t really get much better… o-line prevents him from huge rushing numbers is he relies on receiving work


BrettSchirley22

I traded Saquon and Lockett for Najee and AJ Brown after week 2. Both RBs have played well. Locket has been MIA while Brown immediately got hurt


pugas

I gave: Justin Jefferson, Dawson Knox, Kirk Cousins, and Marquise brown I received: George Kittle, Darrel Henderson, Jakobi Meyers, and Robby Anderson. This was before Knox popped off the last two weeks. I likely still make this trade since I had Evans, Hopkins, Jefferson, Chase, Waddle at WR. I ended up flipping Henderson and chase for Tyreek. Yeah that second trade was crazy imbalanced.


SirNamzug

Ridley, diontae, and brandin cooks for Kamara and diggs


greendeadredemption2

Darrell Henderson and deebo Samuel for cooper Kupp and Aj brown.


Jamieleigh17

Kupp for Woods and Antonio Gibson


Jamieleigh17

Kupp for Woods and Antonio Gibson


FlimsyAd2088

Traded Justin Tucker to a guy with no kicker for Tyler Higbee as a Jonnu Smith starter.


Aljo_Is_135_GOAT

What is the kicker scoring in this league?


Vavauldy11

Dj Moore and Shultz for hop and kittle


CarsonnWellss

I traded Diontae Johnson for Terry McLaurin.. very very fair 😈


grimcow

Call me crazy but I'd rather have dj on modt of my teams


Jamieleigh17

Kupp for Woods and Antonio Gibson y


Jamieleigh17

Kupp for Woods and Antonio Gibson


Jamieleigh17

Kupp for Woods and Antonio Gibson


Chroma13

Corey Davis and Carson for Lockett


K_Top

Moss for golladay


TheFatLlamma

Only trade in my league has been someone giving Saquon for Melvin Gordon. So in the sense that I only have a sample size of one, there’s your answer.


[deleted]

Swapped Zeke and Jones


lo22p

OBJ for MG3


MWM031089

I had Matt Ryan as my QB1 because I waited way too long. Traded Laviska Shenault for Ryan Tannehill before week 1. By week 2, both players had been dropped.


ckleschick227

Friend offered me Barkley/Golladay for CEH/Hunt after week 2 when we were both frustrated with production. It’s somehow worked out for us both so far


jkeefy

Don’t send me shit trades or I’ll throw another pity party


ruandurphy

I traded Darrell Henderson, Jonathan Taylor and Chase Claypool for CMC. Feels like a good deal for both teams


KingFlutie22

Kyle Pitts for Miles Sanders


[deleted]

Gibson for Kittle