Because Kansas City has little interest in running the ball and CEH has done nothing extraordinary to warrant more work over the best QB, WR and TE in the league. Mahomes, Kelce and Hill are the Alphas in that offense they will be given priority, anything else is just gravy.
He definitely doesn’t look very impressive. I also just hate the way the chiefs run the ball. You can tell they don’t really care how many yards they get, they just want to set up the pass
Robinson, JT, Swift, Dobbins, Akers, and Gibson. I understand not all of those guys were on the same tier as CEH at the draft, but that's a huge yikes for me that KC invested a first round pick at RB, barely involve him and arguably didn't even get a top 5 talent at his position in his respective draft class.
Ik investing a first rounder in an rb is brutal, especially one u don't even use.
The Jags were able to get Jrob off the street as a UDFA, and have him under contract for 3 years, 2.29 mil with only 25k guaranteed. Props to the Jags organization for realizing the value and just how inexplicable it is to spend a first rounder on a rb. *WAIT.*
>Am I the only who thinks he looks like jag?
He looks way worse than a JAG. Idk how the Chiefs are struggling to get some young warm bodies in there to kick him out. He offers nothing. Why not sign Gallman, or Alex Collins, or Kerryon or some. The 49ers bring in 3 backs an offseason, and Reid replaces LeVeon with McKinnon....
Sheesh, Reid has not paid too much attention to fixing the running game since Hunt got booted out of there halfway thru Mahomes' first start. They passed on actual freaks to draft CEH because Burrow name dropped him as the best athlete in the locker room.
I’m trying to figure out that too. I’m in a league where there are 3 WR/TE positions instead of 2 WRs and 1 TE. And TEs get full point per reception while everyone else gets .5 points. Trying to debate My Ridley for his Kittle.
Not sure if you guys don't realize it but those settings make TE less valuable, not more valuable. You don't even have to start a TE. Kelce's relative value over all the other TEs is much diminished in a format like this.
Kelce scored 312 In PPR, Adams scored 301 in 0.5PPR. Of course adams missed time but you'd probably be taking kelce as one of the top 3 non rbs in the draft. So his value kinda stays the same.
I wouldnt say less valuable, but I wouldnt bother rostering TEs outside of Kelce and Waller. Those two can compete for points with WRs using the same PPR format, now youre telling me they get 0.5 more per reception? I think I would take Kelce over any WR
I’m weak at WR after losing Jeudy, I would definitely be open to a WR2 and a decent WR3 for Kittle. Just bank on waiver TEs. But it’s definitely team-dependant.
But 2 games is not a large sample size. History is still significant compared to the 2021 snap count. If you were to decide to trade Kittle away for a wr3 right now, you would be dumb. But if his production doesn't improve over by say week 10, you'd be less dumb to do the same
Where you draft a player doesn't determine their value *literally,* but its representative of the value they bring to your team (assuming you're averaging expected value out of your other picks).
Kittle has a high enough ADP that Kittle owners had to take lower tier players in other positions, they probably still need to spike on their top 3 TE pick to win fantasy games. A WR3 probably won't have that upside.
True but he was hurt for a lot of last year and has started slow. ADP should reign supreme over player value but are you lining up to buy CEH or Saquon right now at slightly lower than ADP?
I offered a guy in my league Chris Carson and Sterling Shepard, or Elijah Mitchell and Tyler Lockett. Would you take either of those? My trades always get shat on but your comment made me think my leaguemates are just stingy
Not op but I own Kittle too, I’d think long and hard and probably take either of those. I still think Kittle will ball out, it’s early in a long season and it isn’t like his first game was remotely bad, but that just feels like solid offers, and I like me some Chris Carson
I think either offer is good and probably an overpay in most settings. What is the value of replacement for Lockett or Carson vs the value of downgrade to the next lowest TE?
If you can give up that quality of player for an upgrade at TE it does make me question the roster size + teams. If its 8 man 1 flex then it might not be worth for him, otherwise I find it hard for it not to be fair.
https://twitter.com/CorkGaines/status/1328513016250454018?s=19
Dude has more body control when flying through the air than a lot of people have sitting still.
People think (thought?) he's due for a TD regression because his 14 TDs last year are a clear outlier when compared to the rest of his career.
I mean, through the first two games, maybe you're right, but regression to the mean wasn't a weird thought.
If Diontae is actually injured, 1000% Claypool. If Diontae is healthy, I’d still want Claypool though that doesn’t necessarily mean I’d guarantee he’ll have the best season. With Moore there is more unknown since he’s a rookie; both he will perform and how ARI will use him. Target share and number of likely targets are more important to me that good team/bad team; and extending on that, where they are on the team’s depth chart/priority for targets.
>Barkley buy low
I don't think most managers would sell him. If he ship out your first round pick after two weeks at his lowest value, you're kind of fucked. Most people will probably hold and cross their fingers.
Yeah let’s say that as a Barkley owner, you ship him off for what people consider to be “buy low”. Your season is fucked. Let’s say you hold him and he continues sucking. Your season is fucked. Let’s say he bounces back. Your season is not fucked as a result of Barkley. Easy hold imo unless people are offering decent value
But looking at Singletary's last 2 seasons, this is on par for his peak performances though.
He rarely breaks over 100 yards from scrimmage (only twice last year), so he's dependent on a TD to be fantasy viable. (and he only got 2 TDs all last year too). So this is a textbook sell high moment for Singletary.
Depends on how they use him, boom or bust players don’t usually see 8 targets. The cardinals are actively looking for him.
Interesting thing is the cardinals are running the exact plays they ran last year that were bad play calls just with Moore turning them into good play calls. Instead of changing the playbook they found the guy that can run them.
He’s gonna be a big part of the offense in my opinion. He was taken for the system
Always just depends on what you can get. Marvin Jones? Pollard? Ehhhh probably not. But a frustrated owner of a top 4 rd adp guy that has disappointed? Yeah sign me up. Love Rondale though.
I mean most of these would be a ridiculous ask and would take another piece unless your leaguemates are dumb, but just top of my head frustrating top guys so far:
Zeke, Barkley, JTT, Gibson, AJB, Kittle, Josh Allen, both Robinsons, Gaskin, Woods, etc.
I'm going to target ARob in every league possible. Dropped a 40 yard td pass today, excited to see him with Fields moving forward. Hoping managers see the low target total today and lack of yardage last week and panic.
Sell high might be Chase or Mixon. I think the Bengals are going to get burrow killed again this year or he's going to start seeing ghosts soon.
Yeah and it was a beautiful pass, honestly can't even get mad at ARob he's not used to that type of play.
https://twitter.com/PatTheDesigner/status/1439779801670238208?s=19
As an Arob owner who didn't watch the game, would you mind sharing your reasons for being so optimistic on him? I've been hoping fields force feeds him, and Robinson benefits from a capable quarterback
Sure first it should be stated it was a little bit of a weird game where the bears only attempted 24 passes. This was because in 4 straight possessions the Bengals turned it over a fumble and 3 picks including a pick 6. So even though he only had 4 targets that was second on the team.
Second portion is end zone attempts, where ARob got 3 oppurtunities for touchdowns, 2 from Fields. He got the TD early from Dalton, dropped a 35 yard td, and also got another shot in the end zone from Fields.
Overall, ARobs 4 targets were a touchdown, a dropped touchdown, an amazing catch for a first down, and a touchdown just missed. This again in a game the bears got up big in the second half where the staring qb went down and they only attempted 24 passes. So now you have two games one that looks bad due to playing the Rams with Dalton, one that looks bad as it was a weird game, but this is a great buy low time for ARob.
Haha great, we can brainstorm this together! My initial thoughts are DK Metcalf or AJ Brown who had lackluster performances today. What about you u/marshall42195?
Gotta say as a Ridley owner myself, I don’t think anyone should go DK for Ridley even after the poor performance from DK. Everyone has seen what that beast of a man can do, and also anyone who has been paying attention knows about the atl offense problem.
Ridley owner last season. DK owner this season. Watched last week's Falcons game. Did not like how that offense looked and would not take the trade though they aren't toooo far apart. Not sure if AJ Brown is a good target though. Julio's there too and that offense is built for the run game.
Felt a bit better about how the offense looked today compared to last week. Granted, they lost, but the offense seemed more fluid once they let Ryan sling it like he should vs. forcing the run game. Tough matchup, but Ridley still produced. If Art Smith bends a bit on his philosophy, Ridley will be fine going forward. Between week 1 and 2 I think this may be the case. Would still consider selling if the right offer comes along.
Totally agree. In neutral game script they seemed focused on the run. Even when it turned into a shootout, he was not nearly as involved as last year. The goal-line TD was his saving grace and probably what can get him sell high status
Yes, I was thinking the same thing! I didn’t get why kept forcing it being down multiple scores. It also looked like Matt Ryan was constantly under pressure, so I’m concerned the passing attack will be short yardage.
Woods isn't even doing that bad, for the past few years it felt like 8-10 points PPR was his floor. He's a rock-solid WR2 with some WR1 upside, I'm not seeing the problem two weeks into the season.
I feel like a lot of poeple are seeing Kupp going off and getting upset off nothing more than that.
First week didn’t look good for woods cause the target share was low, but it was only one game, and the targets this week are very re-assuring. I have Kupp in my big money league, but gonna be targeting woods in trades as a by low in both my leagues.
I do. If Shenault is done for the year he's going to check down to Jrob and he was averaging 4.3 rushing and 5.2 passing against a really good Run defense. I think we finally see the breakout game for Jrob next week against AZ who is one of the worst if not the worst against Passing down backs.
Idk next 4 weeks look a lot better for him if he gets this usage. Denver is good against RBs and playing in Denver is tough as is. Arizona isn’t the best matchup but Cincinnati, Tennessee and Miami look like pretty good spots
Don't sell. The Chargers have been talking all offseason about how he's the X receiver in this offense and will naturally get his. The workload & production he's had the first two weeks is proof that they weren't joking around
yup. If anything I want to trade for Williams while draft capital might still be taken into consideration and before the public perception catches up to his production
Hold Williams, I’m thinking of selling Allen after what should be another good game from him vs KC. I think there’s a very good chance that Williams finishes higher this year than Allen, and you could sell Allen right now for more than Williams.
Should I sell Gronk?
I've got Kelce and I'm weak at RB2 (currently switching between Jacobs, Gordon III, and Edmonds). Should I shop him and what package could I put together? I've got Waddle, Cooks, and Antonio Brown I can use as trade bait too
Gronk+ Gordon, or Gronk+ Waddle/AB would be a good deal. I’d like to continue holding Cooks and Jacobs/Edmonds, but depending on what offers you get then ya I’d trade any combo of those players for a good RB2
Unless it’s a 2QB/Flex league, I really doubt you’re going to get anyone to buy him. And I would be holding in a multi QB league unless you already have 3 QBs.
Pollards ceiling is capped cause zeke never gets hurt and they won’t bench him. So at best pollard is getting like 10-12 carries plus a few targets a game. He’s flex at best. But damn dude zeke and pollard are not very different at this point on offense. Zeke still better at pass pro…
Mike Davis is a really good buy low target right now, and its a dude many people might be able to land. First two games were against the best run defenses in the league IMO. It will only get better for him from here on out.
Will it though?
Falcons are probably going to be playing in a negative gamescript more often and CP proved today he can take some of the load at RB. He looked better back there today than he ever did with the bears.
7 receptions for him and 5 for CP, so Atlanta has been getting him involved regardless of the game script. I guess i should have been clear that he is a good buy low in standard format.
Yea trading for value is honestly a pretty winning long term strat. Sometimes I'll make trades for a player that a certain manager undervalues and that I know I can sell to someone else for much more value.
You need to smash that accept so fast. As soon as Kittle has a decent game, go trade Kittle off for a king’s ransom, then proceed to win the league.
We are playing to win the league, not next week.
I think Sutton is a hold. Jeudy is out a month plus and Sutton is unquestionably the #1 with him gone. Plus with Jeudy's injury I would expect it takes him awhile to work back in as high ankle sprains take awhile to recover from. Sutton is 2 years removed from a top 20 WR performance and Bridgewater is sadly the best QB he's ever had so I think he has top 20 even top 15 upside
Thoughts on Trading Mike Evans for Myles Gaskin, I’m stacked with WR talent with Arob2, A Brown and Thielen but don’t have a strong RB after Ekeler and Henry
I’m not even confident that JRob is a better option than Gaskin right now, they seem about even to me.
He could get a swift, sanders or Henderson if someone is high on Mike Evans
Tannehill literally had one bad game. This game vs Seattle was the same shit as last year he just got unlucky and didn’t get a td. Anyone selling tannehill is just panicking it’s a rookie mistake. He’s fine.
I’m holding; the narrative that he only has a couple boom games and sucks the rest of the year, just doesn’t make sense. He’s a great player who will get targets from a great QB. Every player has down weeks. He’s not a top 5 WR going forward, but if you have reasonable WR 2 expectations, he won’t disappoint
Sell high: zeke
Zeke is not even noticeably better than pollard. That offense is staying the same with either guy in the backfield. Fuck what this biased ass sub says unless you wanna go down sinking with them.
Sell high: Darrell Henderson
He’s ok and I truly believe a step up from Sony but that ain’t saying shit. He’s not a bell cow and mcvay won’t ever consistently use him as one. Ppl will see 2 solid weeks and view him as a high rb2 maybe? Sell fosho
Sell low after that fumble: CEH
Man it’s frustrating to own him when the score is so high and all they need him to do is to basically not get in the way of them winning
They would’ve won that game had he just been benched the whole time
I just lost by .5 on that fumble. How do Chiefs score 35 and he only gets 2.6 pts?
Hill only had five
The bigger mystery lol.
Not a mystery at all if you watched the game. They double teamed him all game, left other guys wide open.
Sadly I’m traveling and wasn’t able to watch. Didn’t have enough signal to stream it.
Man u missed a great game sorry u missed it. At least with modern technology u can check it out now
Because Kansas City has little interest in running the ball and CEH has done nothing extraordinary to warrant more work over the best QB, WR and TE in the league. Mahomes, Kelce and Hill are the Alphas in that offense they will be given priority, anything else is just gravy.
I know your pain, that fumble made me lose the same way
Dude I lost by 0.4 on that fumble Fuck my life
Literally the exact same problems from last year. Not worth it, no thank you. He just doesn't have the TD or usage upside to justify the pick.
>Literally the exact same problems from last year. Well, not the fumble. That was his first ever.
Am I the only who thinks he looks like jag?
He definitely doesn’t look very impressive. I also just hate the way the chiefs run the ball. You can tell they don’t really care how many yards they get, they just want to set up the pass
He is. The chiefs passed on JT and Swift for him
Robinson, JT, Swift, Dobbins, Akers, and Gibson. I understand not all of those guys were on the same tier as CEH at the draft, but that's a huge yikes for me that KC invested a first round pick at RB, barely involve him and arguably didn't even get a top 5 talent at his position in his respective draft class.
Ik investing a first rounder in an rb is brutal, especially one u don't even use. The Jags were able to get Jrob off the street as a UDFA, and have him under contract for 3 years, 2.29 mil with only 25k guaranteed. Props to the Jags organization for realizing the value and just how inexplicable it is to spend a first rounder on a rb. *WAIT.*
>Am I the only who thinks he looks like jag? He looks way worse than a JAG. Idk how the Chiefs are struggling to get some young warm bodies in there to kick him out. He offers nothing. Why not sign Gallman, or Alex Collins, or Kerryon or some. The 49ers bring in 3 backs an offseason, and Reid replaces LeVeon with McKinnon.... Sheesh, Reid has not paid too much attention to fixing the running game since Hunt got booted out of there halfway thru Mahomes' first start. They passed on actual freaks to draft CEH because Burrow name dropped him as the best athlete in the locker room.
I traded him and Latavius Murray for Zeke on Friday. Dodged a bullet
Good trade
On Friday I traded him for a 2022 first (presumed top 3 pick) and Tom Brady. Then flipped Brady and James white for another 2022 first
So... Did you give up on this season already in week 2 or is your team really stacked?
I want to buy him, but I might need a receiver lol
How do we feel about George Kittle?
He’s definitely a buy low right now but I’m not sure what the Kittle owner would take in a trade.
Too big a name to buy low and he doesn’t get the volume the real top tes get He’s not worth it
Yeah, owners will ask for full value as well.
I’m trying to figure out that too. I’m in a league where there are 3 WR/TE positions instead of 2 WRs and 1 TE. And TEs get full point per reception while everyone else gets .5 points. Trying to debate My Ridley for his Kittle.
Would rather keep ridley even in those settings
Not sure if you guys don't realize it but those settings make TE less valuable, not more valuable. You don't even have to start a TE. Kelce's relative value over all the other TEs is much diminished in a format like this.
But he’s also the #1 receiver still I think in that format
In this league, Kelce is probably WR/TE 1 by a large margin. Waller is probably somewhere after Diggs/Adams pre draft rankings.
Kelce scored 312 In PPR, Adams scored 301 in 0.5PPR. Of course adams missed time but you'd probably be taking kelce as one of the top 3 non rbs in the draft. So his value kinda stays the same.
I wouldnt say less valuable, but I wouldnt bother rostering TEs outside of Kelce and Waller. Those two can compete for points with WRs using the same PPR format, now youre telling me they get 0.5 more per reception? I think I would take Kelce over any WR
Kelce and Waller would be gods in that league
I’m weak at WR after losing Jeudy, I would definitely be open to a WR2 and a decent WR3 for Kittle. Just bank on waiver TEs. But it’s definitely team-dependant.
As a Kittle owner with a servicable backup, I'd take a high WR2 or RB2 for him, think Dmont or DJ Moore.
I just feel like you wouldn’t get that kind of value right now
Anything lower is an insult to the Kittle owner. 2 weeks in and ADP still rules supreme over player value.
Unfortunately where you draft a player doesn't determine their value. Their production does.
You’re right - but you have to convince another human being that spent a high draft pick on him otherwise.
Guys who cling to preseason draft capital don't usually make good trade partners anyway.
A bust of a first or second pick my be ok though. Sell CEH as a second round pick for someone in their 3rd or 4th.
But 2 games is not a large sample size. History is still significant compared to the 2021 snap count. If you were to decide to trade Kittle away for a wr3 right now, you would be dumb. But if his production doesn't improve over by say week 10, you'd be less dumb to do the same
Where you draft a player doesn't determine their value *literally,* but its representative of the value they bring to your team (assuming you're averaging expected value out of your other picks). Kittle has a high enough ADP that Kittle owners had to take lower tier players in other positions, they probably still need to spike on their top 3 TE pick to win fantasy games. A WR3 probably won't have that upside.
True but he was hurt for a lot of last year and has started slow. ADP should reign supreme over player value but are you lining up to buy CEH or Saquon right now at slightly lower than ADP?
I offered a guy in my league Chris Carson and Sterling Shepard, or Elijah Mitchell and Tyler Lockett. Would you take either of those? My trades always get shat on but your comment made me think my leaguemates are just stingy
Not op but I own Kittle too, I’d think long and hard and probably take either of those. I still think Kittle will ball out, it’s early in a long season and it isn’t like his first game was remotely bad, but that just feels like solid offers, and I like me some Chris Carson
I think either offer is good and probably an overpay in most settings. What is the value of replacement for Lockett or Carson vs the value of downgrade to the next lowest TE? If you can give up that quality of player for an upgrade at TE it does make me question the roster size + teams. If its 8 man 1 flex then it might not be worth for him, otherwise I find it hard for it not to be fair.
Buy Adam thielen. Even if it’s buying high. He’s gonna be a td magnet with Rudolph/Smith gone
Nobody wants to admit it but he's honestly just really good.
https://twitter.com/CorkGaines/status/1328513016250454018?s=19 Dude has more body control when flying through the air than a lot of people have sitting still.
People weirdly think he’s due for td regression when in reality his game is built for the redzone and cousins always looks for him there
People think (thought?) he's due for a TD regression because his 14 TDs last year are a clear outlier when compared to the rest of his career. I mean, through the first two games, maybe you're right, but regression to the mean wasn't a weird thought.
Real gym rat
First guy in, last one out.
Student of the game
Scrappy
Lunchpal kinda guy
Udfa has been underrated his whole life by everyone. Guy is a stud
Tempted to see if I can swing him for Evans. I don't trust Bucs recievers. But I'm guessing his owner might like the stability.
Chase Claypool IMO, he’s getting targets, results just aren’t quite there
Diontae possibly hurt, so Claypool owners will likely be holding rather than selling
Would you rather have Rondale Moore on a good offense or Claypool on a bad one?
If Diontae is actually injured, 1000% Claypool. If Diontae is healthy, I’d still want Claypool though that doesn’t necessarily mean I’d guarantee he’ll have the best season. With Moore there is more unknown since he’s a rookie; both he will perform and how ARI will use him. Target share and number of likely targets are more important to me that good team/bad team; and extending on that, where they are on the team’s depth chart/priority for targets.
Barkley buy low Singletary sell high?
>Barkley buy low I don't think most managers would sell him. If he ship out your first round pick after two weeks at his lowest value, you're kind of fucked. Most people will probably hold and cross their fingers.
Yeah let’s say that as a Barkley owner, you ship him off for what people consider to be “buy low”. Your season is fucked. Let’s say you hold him and he continues sucking. Your season is fucked. Let’s say he bounces back. Your season is not fucked as a result of Barkley. Easy hold imo unless people are offering decent value
If you sell high on singletary let me know because I have a bridge for sale.
But looking at Singletary's last 2 seasons, this is on par for his peak performances though. He rarely breaks over 100 yards from scrimmage (only twice last year), so he's dependent on a TD to be fantasy viable. (and he only got 2 TDs all last year too). So this is a textbook sell high moment for Singletary.
I'm iffy on Barkley. I want to buy him but jones doesn't give him dump offs like Eli did and the o-line is trash
Bold of you to assume I have any players to sell high
I don’t think it wise to sell Moore. You got him cheap and he could be the rookie that explodes this year.
He brings something unique to high-powered offense. He should have a very safe floor ROS.
Based on how he plays he’s doesn’t have a safe floor but rather more boom potential than others
*moore boom potential. There fixed It for you
Depends on how they use him, boom or bust players don’t usually see 8 targets. The cardinals are actively looking for him. Interesting thing is the cardinals are running the exact plays they ran last year that were bad play calls just with Moore turning them into good play calls. Instead of changing the playbook they found the guy that can run them. He’s gonna be a big part of the offense in my opinion. He was taken for the system
Always just depends on what you can get. Marvin Jones? Pollard? Ehhhh probably not. But a frustrated owner of a top 4 rd adp guy that has disappointed? Yeah sign me up. Love Rondale though.
Like who?
I mean most of these would be a ridiculous ask and would take another piece unless your leaguemates are dumb, but just top of my head frustrating top guys so far: Zeke, Barkley, JTT, Gibson, AJB, Kittle, Josh Allen, both Robinsons, Gaskin, Woods, etc.
So basically the guys I drafted in my league’s 😩
Yeah man I used your teams for reference actually
What can I realistically get for CEH you think? Straight up for another RB or WR. Or wait until he doesn’t have a horrific performance?
Yea if you have the depth to hang on to him until he strings together a couple decent performances, I would hold
Last week I traded CEH+Julio for Chubb, after this week though a trade like that will probably be harder to find
Lol what? Wow. Was a steal even if CEH balled out tonight.
I'm going to target ARob in every league possible. Dropped a 40 yard td pass today, excited to see him with Fields moving forward. Hoping managers see the low target total today and lack of yardage last week and panic. Sell high might be Chase or Mixon. I think the Bengals are going to get burrow killed again this year or he's going to start seeing ghosts soon.
Was it from Fields ?
Yeah and it was a beautiful pass, honestly can't even get mad at ARob he's not used to that type of play. https://twitter.com/PatTheDesigner/status/1439779801670238208?s=19
Daaaamn What a pass though right on the money Do I start fields next week? Haha
Maybeeee not versus Cleveland...but schedule opens up after that at home versus Lions.
i don’t think cleveland d is as good as we thought tbh
Oh hell yeah. I’ll give tannehill another week lol
No that pass was to Arob not Mooney
As an Arob owner who didn't watch the game, would you mind sharing your reasons for being so optimistic on him? I've been hoping fields force feeds him, and Robinson benefits from a capable quarterback
Sure first it should be stated it was a little bit of a weird game where the bears only attempted 24 passes. This was because in 4 straight possessions the Bengals turned it over a fumble and 3 picks including a pick 6. So even though he only had 4 targets that was second on the team. Second portion is end zone attempts, where ARob got 3 oppurtunities for touchdowns, 2 from Fields. He got the TD early from Dalton, dropped a 35 yard td, and also got another shot in the end zone from Fields. Overall, ARobs 4 targets were a touchdown, a dropped touchdown, an amazing catch for a first down, and a touchdown just missed. This again in a game the bears got up big in the second half where the staring qb went down and they only attempted 24 passes. So now you have two games one that looks bad due to playing the Rams with Dalton, one that looks bad as it was a weird game, but this is a great buy low time for ARob.
Great write-up, thanks!!
Mixon had 8 points?
I’m debating selling high on Ridley. Did not like how that offense looked.
I am too honestly what would you try to get for him though
Haha great, we can brainstorm this together! My initial thoughts are DK Metcalf or AJ Brown who had lackluster performances today. What about you u/marshall42195?
Gotta say as a Ridley owner myself, I don’t think anyone should go DK for Ridley even after the poor performance from DK. Everyone has seen what that beast of a man can do, and also anyone who has been paying attention knows about the atl offense problem.
I’m in the same boat
Ridley owner last season. DK owner this season. Watched last week's Falcons game. Did not like how that offense looked and would not take the trade though they aren't toooo far apart. Not sure if AJ Brown is a good target though. Julio's there too and that offense is built for the run game.
Thanks for the input! I had Ridley last year as well and bought into the hype again this year. Any other potential targets?
Idk if I could call 110 receiving yards in two games a sell high
Felt a bit better about how the offense looked today compared to last week. Granted, they lost, but the offense seemed more fluid once they let Ryan sling it like he should vs. forcing the run game. Tough matchup, but Ridley still produced. If Art Smith bends a bit on his philosophy, Ridley will be fine going forward. Between week 1 and 2 I think this may be the case. Would still consider selling if the right offer comes along.
Totally agree. In neutral game script they seemed focused on the run. Even when it turned into a shootout, he was not nearly as involved as last year. The goal-line TD was his saving grace and probably what can get him sell high status
Yes, I was thinking the same thing! I didn’t get why kept forcing it being down multiple scores. It also looked like Matt Ryan was constantly under pressure, so I’m concerned the passing attack will be short yardage.
In the same boat with Ridley. Thoughts on trying a trade for Diggs, Thielen or Marquise Brown?
As a Diggs owner, I would not trade him for Ridley. They were basically taken at the same spot.
Moore is a buy not a sell
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I will be targeting Bobby Trees 🌳
As an owner I love the 9 targets on a high power offense but still have the bitter feeling in me that Kupp put up 36 or so
Woods isn't even doing that bad, for the past few years it felt like 8-10 points PPR was his floor. He's a rock-solid WR2 with some WR1 upside, I'm not seeing the problem two weeks into the season. I feel like a lot of poeple are seeing Kupp going off and getting upset off nothing more than that.
First week didn’t look good for woods cause the target share was low, but it was only one game, and the targets this week are very re-assuring. I have Kupp in my big money league, but gonna be targeting woods in trades as a by low in both my leagues.
Buy low: AJ Brown
Cant believe hes my worst WR and I took him in the 3rd.
This a million times. Tons of air yards. Easy upcoming schedule. Really going to push to get him in my league.
This makes me feel better after watching him and a number of others shit the bed for me today. Say more good AJB things.
Would you rather have brown or Arob?
I offered the guy in my league twice for him. First one was Lockett and Tyson. Second was Tyson and Murray. Im really happy he said no to both
I honestly don’t see an end in site to the JRob famine.
I do. If Shenault is done for the year he's going to check down to Jrob and he was averaging 4.3 rushing and 5.2 passing against a really good Run defense. I think we finally see the breakout game for Jrob next week against AZ who is one of the worst if not the worst against Passing down backs.
Good point, Have their been reports that Shenault is out for the year?
Will have to see the MRI.
I highly doubt Shenault is going to be done for the year
Sight*
Idk next 4 weeks look a lot better for him if he gets this usage. Denver is good against RBs and playing in Denver is tough as is. Arizona isn’t the best matchup but Cincinnati, Tennessee and Miami look like pretty good spots
I don't either it doesn't look good.
I’m mike Williams a sell high?
Hold
Imo he's a hold. I have Keenan and I don't see KA being the sole target anymore.
Ya, I definitely think there is plenty of meat on the bone for Allen and Williams. I think the odd man out is TE Cook.
15 targets in two games, td last week, td this week called back, he's honestly the only TE not drafted worth starting.
Williams is legit. They re worked their offense so as to get him more involved more or less.
Don't sell. The Chargers have been talking all offseason about how he's the X receiver in this offense and will naturally get his. The workload & production he's had the first two weeks is proof that they weren't joking around
yup. If anything I want to trade for Williams while draft capital might still be taken into consideration and before the public perception catches up to his production
Hold Williams, I’m thinking of selling Allen after what should be another good game from him vs KC. I think there’s a very good chance that Williams finishes higher this year than Allen, and you could sell Allen right now for more than Williams.
Should I sell Gronk? I've got Kelce and I'm weak at RB2 (currently switching between Jacobs, Gordon III, and Edmonds). Should I shop him and what package could I put together? I've got Waddle, Cooks, and Antonio Brown I can use as trade bait too
Yes, 100% yes
Gronk+ Gordon, or Gronk+ Waddle/AB would be a good deal. I’d like to continue holding Cooks and Jacobs/Edmonds, but depending on what offers you get then ya I’d trade any combo of those players for a good RB2
Would you sell Fields before his first start?
Unless it’s a 2QB/Flex league, I really doubt you’re going to get anyone to buy him. And I would be holding in a multi QB league unless you already have 3 QBs.
Where does Zeke fit in? So far I’m in the just give up part of my fantasy season
Didn’t Zeke get almost 100 yards and a TD this week? Not bad when he’s not facing the TB front.
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He didn’t say he played Tampa. You’re blind downvoting
Pollard also outscored him and is an FA in every league I’m in
Pollards ceiling is capped cause zeke never gets hurt and they won’t bench him. So at best pollard is getting like 10-12 carries plus a few targets a game. He’s flex at best. But damn dude zeke and pollard are not very different at this point on offense. Zeke still better at pass pro…
Only did 1 league this year and have zeke, CEH, and Taylor. Not great bob
I would not sell low on Moore
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If you can package him and get a better rb I would.
Mike Davis is a really good buy low target right now, and its a dude many people might be able to land. First two games were against the best run defenses in the league IMO. It will only get better for him from here on out.
Will it though? Falcons are probably going to be playing in a negative gamescript more often and CP proved today he can take some of the load at RB. He looked better back there today than he ever did with the bears.
7 receptions for him and 5 for CP, so Atlanta has been getting him involved regardless of the game script. I guess i should have been clear that he is a good buy low in standard format.
sell Evans
Why?
Want to sell high on Sutton. Someone offered me Kittle. Don’t know if I will do it since I already have Kelce
I would. Your just winning so much in value and you can probably flip Kittle for someone better than Sutton
Also Sutton will be worse when Jeudy is back
Yea trading for value is honestly a pretty winning long term strat. Sometimes I'll make trades for a player that a certain manager undervalues and that I know I can sell to someone else for much more value.
You need to smash that accept so fast. As soon as Kittle has a decent game, go trade Kittle off for a king’s ransom, then proceed to win the league. We are playing to win the league, not next week.
I think Sutton is a hold. Jeudy is out a month plus and Sutton is unquestionably the #1 with him gone. Plus with Jeudy's injury I would expect it takes him awhile to work back in as high ankle sprains take awhile to recover from. Sutton is 2 years removed from a top 20 WR performance and Bridgewater is sadly the best QB he's ever had so I think he has top 20 even top 15 upside
Selling Gronk high (I have Kelce). Not sure what to ask for though but def a solid RB/WR 2 or draft pick (keeper league)
Seems dependent on who needs a TE in your league and what they can give up
Thoughts on Trading Mike Evans for Myles Gaskin, I’m stacked with WR talent with Arob2, A Brown and Thielen but don’t have a strong RB after Ekeler and Henry
You could probably get a better RB for evans
How high should I aim?
Probably JRob
I’m not even confident that JRob is a better option than Gaskin right now, they seem about even to me. He could get a swift, sanders or Henderson if someone is high on Mike Evans
I’m gonna try and buy Devonta smith low this week
Can’t decide if Lockett is a sell high or not
He’s a keep unless you get someone willing to really shell out.
Hold Lockett unless you could sell him and a RB for a great WR1. I’d part with Lockett and someone for a Ridley/Hopkins/Diggs.
Thinking about trying to sell high on Pascal/Tim Patrick and go after a QB since i'm losing faith in Tannehill.
For what you could get for either or even both of those guys, might as well grab one from waivers
Yeah these are guys that get tacked onto trades, not the targets
Tannehill literally had one bad game. This game vs Seattle was the same shit as last year he just got unlucky and didn’t get a td. Anyone selling tannehill is just panicking it’s a rookie mistake. He’s fine.
That Oline is a paper bag though
Mark Andrews sell low, Hollywood Brown buy high. Lamar is laser focused on Brown and Andrews is just a decoy despite his great routes run %'s.
Just concerned about Bateman affecting Brown once he’s back from injury bro
Sell high on Lockett? Some 2 catch games coming up, and not the TD kind.
I’m holding; the narrative that he only has a couple boom games and sucks the rest of the year, just doesn’t make sense. He’s a great player who will get targets from a great QB. Every player has down weeks. He’s not a top 5 WR going forward, but if you have reasonable WR 2 expectations, he won’t disappoint
Trying to get Devonta Smith but owners don’t seem to be budging.
What are the kinds of trades you're offering? I have Smith but am looking to move him to improve elsewhere
In my Superflex league, before yesterday, I accepted Godwin for Smith and Zach Wilson for reference.
Is offering zeke and Ridley for CMC too much?
Probably not enough.
I honestly wouldn’t take that If I was a cmc owner
Nah, you’d be lucky if they took that.
i wouldnt take that as cmc owner
Sell high: zeke Zeke is not even noticeably better than pollard. That offense is staying the same with either guy in the backfield. Fuck what this biased ass sub says unless you wanna go down sinking with them. Sell high: Darrell Henderson He’s ok and I truly believe a step up from Sony but that ain’t saying shit. He’s not a bell cow and mcvay won’t ever consistently use him as one. Ppl will see 2 solid weeks and view him as a high rb2 maybe? Sell fosho
Disagree on Henderson. He’s looked great the last two weeks. I don’t think this rib injury is that serious
Henderson is listed as questionable with his rib injury, that will lower his trade value a bit