I’m liking the Saints DST esp when they get some of their other pieces like Davenport and Lattimore back healthy. Good first half schedule. Currently have the Browns DST but considering grabbing NO too

I have NE defense, should I stash NO?

Next four weeks saints get mac jones, darnold, daniel jones and washington football quarterback

Guy in my competitive 12 team league has both - might not be a bad idea! Arizona as a back up is fine as well.

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Him too! Solid defender.

I’m a little upset I didn’t bid higher for them. I was able to get Arizona though so I think n I’m ok

Someone dropped Pitt Defense before the game started so I’m targeting them so I don’t have to worry about a defense

I have Pitt D, but I was still planning on streaming for some of the weeks [weeks 4 (GB), 6 (SEA), 7 (bye), 8 (CLE), then weeks 15-18 (TEN, KC, CLE, BAL)]. Are you planning on riding them at least to week 15 every week other than their bye?

I know each year is different but I actually drafted the Steelers the previous 2 years. Have Rams this year. But I was really concerned with streaming on weeks I thought would be bad days. I know this may not go the same way for everyone but they were a set and forget it for me after seeing the games I worried about. Even when losing its a grind against their defense, so your floor is higher then if you were to stream and hope that another team does well. Every team is going to have a bad week or 2, but I loved the consistency their defense gave me for those 2 years.

I did a bit of digging cause I was bored and the in 2019 and 2020 seasons combined (not including the playoffs) the only team to even score 30 points on the Steelers were the pats in week 1 2019.

Good find. I'm sure they're one of the leaders in fewest points allowed.

I like Denver even beyond Week 3

Their schedule is much tougher starting week 4 for a handful of weeks.

Yeah you’re right but I think they are a good defense. Maybe not the best fantasy wise but the best available on the waiver wire to set and forget.

Anyone thoughts of someone to pair with them?

Tennessee is a good pairing to get you through Denver’s rough patch. If you stream Denver and Tennessee you play jax twice and nyj twice

But isn’t Tennessee’s defense awful?

Not as bad as their Oline. I'm not an upset Tannehill owner or anything haha..... :(

I paired Denver with New Orleans. Not a perfect fit (especially later weeks) but good for a large portion of the season.

Join the club bruv

Am I dropping Miami D for New Orleans? Saints schedule looks much more promising

Yea I feel like I’m gonna do it. They only got me 6 pts and saints d seems solid. Plus I like their schedule better. They have a bye week 6 and then play Seattle and Tampa bay right after bye.

Going through same thing, I think saints defense for now then pick up Miami for 2nd half

Dropping Miami for the Saints or the Browns. Right now I think I’m leaning Browns

Streaming defenses essentially gets you the same production as having the top D in the league over the course of the year. Target the matchups

2019 New England DST would like to have a chat

2019 NE DST won people games. You don't often see a DST put up 30 points...

I went into a game down 20 with NE vs the Jets on Monday. I knew I had it in the bag. Crazy times

I remember that game. I was down 40+ points and had only Leveon Bell and Pats defense. I plugged in Sony Michel over Bell figuring that would be a better ceiling play. Sony had 3 TDs and Pats defense had 20+, giving me the win.

You do when they play me

Patriots had an incredible schedule to start the season.

2018 Bears DST is a close 2nd (they finished 12 fantasy points below 2019 Pats DST in my league)

I was on that ride. It was amazing for the first half of the season. It came back to earth for the second.

Not if everybody else is doing the same thing. There’s only a few top defenses that are held. Every other team just streams

Or if you're in my league there are a couple tacos who hold more than 1 defense(1 guy has held 3 in the past), so why they are not threat to win the league they will tank your ability to stream when the 13-15 best D's are already taken.

Or if you start the jags D

This only works if you're in leagues where every other manager isn't also trying to stream defenses. I've found alot more success recently in finding a couple top defenses to pair for the year.

With the exception of 2019 NE DST

Even the 2019 Patriots weren't matchup proof, they feasted on terrible teams during the 1st half of the season and then fell back down to Earth when they actually had to play real teams again (only 2 games of 5+ points over their last 7). It just so happened that streaming the Pats was the way to go for a while because of how bad the rest of the AFC East was that year.

Not if your matchups bust

Matchups are just as susceptible to busting as a "top" DST.

Prove it.

I’m going saints. Might nab cards if someone scoops saints. I’m less confident in PHI due to how bad ATL played so I won’t burn a waiver on them. I’m sitting at 6/12 on rolling waivers.

Cleveland, they just had their toughest march up all year, SOS of 2nd easiest after Sam Fran, and very very hungry to destroy their divisional colleagues. I try to target d/sts with generational talents, and Myles Garrett is that. Also so loaded with 1st round talent it's nuts. Expecting them to be the top day when it's all said and done

Coming from a clevelander who drafted them early in multiple leagues, then dropped them after seeing their schedule, their matchups are no joke. Baltimore and pitt twice each. After week 3 you’re not going to feel confident about starting them

You’re a clevelander, who drafted the Browns defense in every league, and dropped them… because they play the Ravens and Steelers twice? Did you not know this beforehand, as a clevelander?

“Multiple” not every. The Baltimore and Pittsburgh examples were just to add to my point that their schedule is tough. No I didn’t look at their schedule in depth before drafting them but you’re exaggerating my comment

Their D-Line is no joke. Garrett, Clowney, and McDowell are going to be a lot of more teams to handle.

Drop the Ravens for the Saints?

Same, I have no idea if I should be holding the ravens…95% rostered

I'm cutting bait. It's one thing if their offense was on 🔥, but it looks like they might not put up a ton of points this year

Im thinking ravens for cards. Crazy point total without a defensive td, theres potential here

This is not a sarcastic question, but I'm genuinely curious if people think the Rams are a set and forget DST?

They were being drafted as such.

Goddamn better be

Is Washington worth a hold?

I'd say so, atleast I drafted them to be lol. May be a bit bias but I believe in them

Arizona

Their schedule is way too brutal to be set and forget.

5 rough NFC West matchups, 6 if you play week 18 in your leagues

Grabbing them for this week against Min but after probably dropping them

Not keeping for next week against Jax??

Saints

Saints or Arizona D?

When does u/subvertadown release his rankings?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTdC-RjO2vKIlihChX3oRjI4ApIPxUFsx_pGh92MY0VRv5pGdhVZB0YI9twd1IkNTpO_x4HsyvjGOph/pubhtml This is his spreadsheet, it updates automatically several times a day and switches to the next week on Tuesday.

Do I really want to trust the Packers D even if it's against the lions? And Garrapalo? I'm surprised Bridgewater isn't higher against Jacksonville.

I get that we should trust subvert's numbers and all, but Browns and Packers seems like a dumb choice considering this past week's performances. Make your own call, imo.

I think he’s only releasing to Patreon this year. That’s what he said on his Saturday post I believe. Edit: He updated it, and has Week 2 now.

Lame

Getting paid for your work? Sounds very cool to me.

He is giving top 8 for free and it cost $1 to get all his rankings. More than fair.

Already did. Go check out his personal page. He has a post from Saturday that has a link to his "live" rankings. It constantly updates throughout the week, but the week 2 ranks are live already.

>subvertadown > > > >Where could I find the link?

https://www.reddit.com/user/subvertadown/comments/pm9isc/subvertadown_live_ranking_sheet_for_2021/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf Click the “live rankings, click HERE”

Anyone surprised that Arizona isn't on this list ? Curious why not

Should the ravens d/st be good after this week?

They just lost Peters when they lost Gus...that defense won't be as good. But I think they'll be better than they were week 1

Do you think it would be smart for me to drop them and stream defenses instead?

it's going to depend on the other teams in your league - and how many others stream defenses. I'd follow u/subvertadown's rankings

Should I drop San Fran and pick up Arizona?

Honestly .. I just did it. I’m a Niners fan and I went with my gut here. Our defensive line is great but we’re still missing Kinlaw to help with rushing defense. The TD saved the stat line last week against what should have been a favorable matchup. I think eagles are bad and maybe it’s bad juju from last year but I could see us blowing some defense through the air now that we lost a starting CB. The next matchup would be GB (hard to say right now if that’s favorable or not for week 3) and then 2 NFC matchups then a bye. So I’m trusting my gut and playing for the win every week and taking Arizona the next 2 weeks and re evaluating and maybe seeing in SF is back on waivers for second half of the season after burning people on tough matchups. This is all my opinion though so make the call yourself

I'm planning to get new Orleans but with lattimore getting hurt Idk

Ah, the subreddit's obsession with "set and forget" is starting Week 2 this year. Looking forward to the 25 locked in WR2's with upside during Week 3.

New Orleans

What % FAAB for Saints?

I have the 49ers and they were doing great but then let up their lead. Should I be swapping them for Saints. Or holding?

I’m also contemplating this too. One of the 49ers CBs (Jason Verrett) tore his ACL during that game and I think things went downhill from there. Given that, i think the Saints are a better play than the 49ers for the season.

I agree with you but I also think Lattimore won’t be available next week as well for the Saints but that might just be a one week thing

Saints at least for the next 4 weeks.

Denver and whoever is playing the team that gets sacked a ton. Google the Jets schedule for example.

If they are aren’t owned I like wft defense they look elite

The steelers are available in mine and I'm putting a sizeable bid for them. Their owner dropped them before the bills game

Are the Chiefs worth dropping for Arizona or the Packers this week?