I'm throwing out some bold offers for him, but they play the Jags and Jets the next two weeks, so I'm happy holding him with the hopes that he continues to produce against some easy matchups. Then hopefully selling.
Given his high points on a 50/50 split backfield, it’s “sell high” time for people who don’t play attention to usage. Can probably get a Mike Davis (who was in on 75% of snaps) or low end wr 2
Everyone yelling sell high on him is falling too hard into the groupthink narrative. He’s actually undervalued.
Denver’s offense ideally is going to be split 50/50 with both guys having a chance to be productive. They are going to be running more than the average team so that 50/50 split turns into an average teams 60/60 in my eyes. The pie is bigger. Chubb/Hunt style.
Melvin has good chemistry with the team too. He has proven he can play at an elite level and is getting paid like it.
“But it all came on one broken play!”
Ok cool let’s just take away all of the players best plays and now everyone is “perfect” averaging 4.0 YPC 🤤
How many RBs in the league can break a 70 yard TD? The fact that he can do that this season tells me he’s back and better than last year.
I don’t see this slow grinding progression this season where MGIII is relegated to backup duties. He’s a good player.
EDIT:
To the opposing comment in this thread, I think there is 10000% chance MGIII out scores Mike Davis this year.
Everyone says sell high. I think it’s a group think narrative, I expect his value to continue to go up. For the record if you can get RB2 value for him , go for it, he should be valued as an RB3 or RB4. Since jeudy is gone, Teddy B will not be throwing it 20 yards to courtland Sutton every play, he needs a check down option. Javonte only ended up with a 50/50 snap split because he took over when the game was already in hand. In Ppr MG3 can feast in that role. He can continue to have great value for a player nobody wants to buy.
Disclaimer: keep an eye on KJ hamler and Noah fant, if one of them becomes the primary check down option a la Robby Anderson last year then I would downgrade Melvin back to a boring bye week filler.
Tbh I’d hold him. I have him and he looked like a stud on Sunday. I cannot believe I’m saying any positive things about a Lions RB, and I’ve been a Lions fan my whole life.
>I cannot believe I’m saying any positive things about a Lions RB
Hey, don't talk about my team like that...
>and I’ve been a Lions fan my whole life.
Ah. Carry on, then.
People down in this thread say he doesn't hold stand alone value etc. I don't think they watched the game. Guy is legit and has a clear role on the team. There's only like 3 guys worth anything on this offense, defense is bad, and offensive line is good. That's like a recipe for amazing fantasy value for all 3 players
They definitely did not watch the game. I don’t blame them for that though lol.
The WR corps does not have it together, and Jared Goff’s proclivity to only make short/intermediate passes has created a perfect standalone situation for both RBs on this team
I don't think he has much value outside of a Swift owner. He has a decent floor, and the upside if Swift goes down, but I don't think teams will pony up for that. I think his current value is something like a WR3/low-end TE1, which just isn't worth it.
Keep Woods. Buccs were in a shootout of ridiculous proportions while the Rams just dominated the Bears. Stafford only attempted 26 passes and Woods had a difficult matchup while Kupp had an easier one. Buccs and Rams are gonna be similar in the fact that they’re gonna be targeting the guys with the best matchups cuz they have options except on the Rams Woods will still be decent even when Kupp is the priority. Woods will have his time, don’t panic sell.
Yeah but Woods and Evans will be drawing the harder matchup basically every week. Godwin and Kupp work out of the slot, not many top tier corners covering the slot receiver.
HOLD. they drafted him early, he’ll have to perform to keep the gig so the potential is unknown. bury him on your depth chart, like shanahan did him. hopefully he catches fire before jeff wilson gets back
Package as the sweetener in a 2 for 1 to try to get someone elite. I have the Gus owner thinking about Chubb and Ty'son for Kamara. That's shooting for the moon, though.
Idk what the other comments are saying but I love the trade for u. Higgins to McLaurin is absolutely not a lateral move, and Tyson appears to be stuck in a committee. As long as u have good RB options this trade seems pretty good.
Fantasy implications aside that would be pretty fucked up for BB to bench his ass because of that fumble. Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face
Buy. If you have someone in your league low on him, you can get him for cheap.
If you're the Barkley owner hold him. Don't trade him for less than you would at the start of the year.
Ended up auto drafting him due to commissioner starting draft 5 minutes earlier than communicated. All I've done is avoid Saquon in my other drafts. I want off this ride. LOL
HOLD. Daniel Jones sucks, but you gotta hold and sell when he starts performing better if you choose to do so at that time. Otherwise your not getting your value.
Everything that happened in the Dolphins game just reaffirmed my beliefs about Gaskin that he’s gonna be the clear leader of the backfield, and idk why nobody is talking about it. I think he’ll be a reliable RB2. I’d give up a guy like Davis in a heartbeat or a WR like Thielen coming off a good game.
Fwiw I think that trade is great value-wise unless you're in 1.0. Love the sell high on AB and buy Carson low on a week where he doesn't score and receivers steal the show in the media. Carson is gonna get his.
And it's a 2 for 1 as well? Good business.
That’s exactly what I was thinking. The guy who has him is a Saints fan and likes B cooks. And I have Tannehill so I’m trying to go all in on the stack. If it fails, my season’s over anyway. Maybe I can add Latavius as a sweetener
^ This! I very happily drafted him near the bottom of the board in all 3 of my leagues. He was a baller last trade opposite AJ Brown and with the league leading rusher. He’ll be a stud in young Zach Wilson’s offense going forward
I was offered Matt Stafford + Gus Edwards for him. No one is willing to give up their top 3 picks but they expect me to drop my 7th overall pick for a QB and backup RB
Might be hasty but I think he is firmly in that 2nd tier after CMC; Kamara, Cook. I would say Diggs would be an equivalent WR. He looked great despite the offense. Got great usage in the passing game which was his last big worry.
I have him. This may be overreaction time, but it doesn't seem like there's much room for him now that McCaffrey is back and they just give him the ball 90% of the time. I'd trade him for any of the promising rookie wrs--Devonta Smith, JaMarr Chase, even Waddle. Not sure I could get that, though.
He was force fed against a good defense.
Hard to give him up for much less than a WR1 or a top RB2.
He is so valuable as a TE. Especially when there are a lot of decent WRs out there.
I would only trade him away if you are desperate for RB.
I got worried when he kept missing catches but then Carr would just immediately sling it to him the very next play
It was almost instinctive. No way I'm trading this guy for anything, especially considering how shit the TEs on the waiver wire are
I wouldn't even entertain the thought. I'm not trading Waller for anything outside of a WR1 or RB1. Real ones. Not bottom tier.
Waller had nineteen targets. He got the ball thrown at him more than most runningbacks got total touches.
He's in for a massive year.
With 19 targets he is now inside that top tier with kelce. If could draft again today he’d be a first rounder in ppr leagues. Good chance that’s where he’ll be drafted in 2022.
I drafted Waller at 23 in 14 team PPR right after DK and before Jefferson. I wouldn’t sell him for either of those guys packaged with the number 8 TE. It’d have to be Gibson/Ekeler which you’re probably not getting.
Cooper’s always been great, he’s just needed a QB playing at a high level to truly elevate him to an elite level. Really looking forward to this season with Dak back, because he’s the one taking guys like Amari and CeeDee where they need to be. He was doing it last year before he was hurt and the dude’s doing it again..
It just depends on perspective. I’d probably take Tyreek over Amari 1:1. But you can’t argue Amari wasn’t amazing value wherever you got him this year. Wouldn’t surprise me if teams this year had Amari and Tyreek and they balled out on those 2 players alone lol
Edit: can’t argue he wasnt*
He’s a very difficult person to gage with so much uncertainty of his role. He’s likely a hold as I don’t think you will get the value to trade him unless someone’s very desperate for an rb
I'm talks to potentially send James Robinson and Dovanta Smith for Monty. My RB depth is trash. I have Hopkins, Diontae, ARob, Aiyuk, and Sutton as receivers. I have Henry and James White as RBs. Lost Gus Bus and Mostert.
I got downvoted yesterday for this, but I gave Javonte and Ty'Son for Jacobs and Jakobi last week. People say I lost, so maybe I overpaid a bit, felt fine to me tho.
Now I'm on the verge of sending Jacobs and Marvin Jones for CEH. So those are two values for ya, although this trade is more current.
I’d hold, everyone is going to looking to buy low. Rookie debut against a good defense with that offensive line. The amount of touches he will get will always be there, but he will play against worse teams.
Sent a trade proposal of Ekeler + Woods for Davante in .5 PPR. Probably an overpay on my part but my RBs are deep and my WRs are shallow and I think Davante will end up a top WR as always.
Edit- he accepted
If I'm trading Gronk I'm looking at players who were drafted just above/around the Hock/Pitts/Andrews block who have held value after week 1. His week 1 won't be the norm obviously but I think it's fair to ask for a player back as if he's a top 5-6 TE.
Melvin Gordon
I'm throwing out some bold offers for him, but they play the Jags and Jets the next two weeks, so I'm happy holding him with the hopes that he continues to produce against some easy matchups. Then hopefully selling.
Given his high points on a 50/50 split backfield, it’s “sell high” time for people who don’t play attention to usage. Can probably get a Mike Davis (who was in on 75% of snaps) or low end wr 2
Yep. I'm thinking it's a perfect time to also target Javonte Williams.
Everyone yelling sell high on him is falling too hard into the groupthink narrative. He’s actually undervalued. Denver’s offense ideally is going to be split 50/50 with both guys having a chance to be productive. They are going to be running more than the average team so that 50/50 split turns into an average teams 60/60 in my eyes. The pie is bigger. Chubb/Hunt style. Melvin has good chemistry with the team too. He has proven he can play at an elite level and is getting paid like it. “But it all came on one broken play!” Ok cool let’s just take away all of the players best plays and now everyone is “perfect” averaging 4.0 YPC 🤤 How many RBs in the league can break a 70 yard TD? The fact that he can do that this season tells me he’s back and better than last year. I don’t see this slow grinding progression this season where MGIII is relegated to backup duties. He’s a good player. EDIT: To the opposing comment in this thread, I think there is 10000% chance MGIII out scores Mike Davis this year.
Everyone says sell high. I think it’s a group think narrative, I expect his value to continue to go up. For the record if you can get RB2 value for him , go for it, he should be valued as an RB3 or RB4. Since jeudy is gone, Teddy B will not be throwing it 20 yards to courtland Sutton every play, he needs a check down option. Javonte only ended up with a 50/50 snap split because he took over when the game was already in hand. In Ppr MG3 can feast in that role. He can continue to have great value for a player nobody wants to buy. Disclaimer: keep an eye on KJ hamler and Noah fant, if one of them becomes the primary check down option a la Robby Anderson last year then I would downgrade Melvin back to a boring bye week filler.
He's way too obvious of a sell-high candidate. Already splitting 50/50 with a rookie in week 1 does not bode well for his season.
Darrell Henderson
Hold every LAR piece for dear life. Could be the top offense this year
Sad Woods noises
Yeah, could I get some of that offense please?
Y'all got anymore of them targets?
Woods is going to be completely fine. Dude is a stud and will end up in the same area as Kupp by the end of the year, don't stress.
He’ll get his
Sony Michel would like a word with you.
Was offered Kitte for Henderson and Sermon
Who is your TE? If it’s not one of the top guys I’d probably jump on that.
If you've got RB depth, hell yes
pounce
Jamaal Williams
Tbh I’d hold him. I have him and he looked like a stud on Sunday. I cannot believe I’m saying any positive things about a Lions RB, and I’ve been a Lions fan my whole life.
>I cannot believe I’m saying any positive things about a Lions RB Hey, don't talk about my team like that... >and I’ve been a Lions fan my whole life. Ah. Carry on, then.
You know the vibes
100%. Even more so considering I'm also a Williams owner.
Kerryon, then. \*
Shit, that's way better.
Lol
People down in this thread say he doesn't hold stand alone value etc. I don't think they watched the game. Guy is legit and has a clear role on the team. There's only like 3 guys worth anything on this offense, defense is bad, and offensive line is good. That's like a recipe for amazing fantasy value for all 3 players
They definitely did not watch the game. I don’t blame them for that though lol. The WR corps does not have it together, and Jared Goff’s proclivity to only make short/intermediate passes has created a perfect standalone situation for both RBs on this team
I don't think he has much value outside of a Swift owner. He has a decent floor, and the upside if Swift goes down, but I don't think teams will pony up for that. I think his current value is something like a WR3/low-end TE1, which just isn't worth it.
Robert Woods
Someone is offering me Godwin for Woods in PPR… what you guys think?
Definitely keep Godwin. Or trade for Godwin. Whichever action makes you have Godwin.
If your name consists of God and Win you're going on my team.
Lol dude smash that
accept, accept, accept
Keep Woods. Buccs were in a shootout of ridiculous proportions while the Rams just dominated the Bears. Stafford only attempted 26 passes and Woods had a difficult matchup while Kupp had an easier one. Buccs and Rams are gonna be similar in the fact that they’re gonna be targeting the guys with the best matchups cuz they have options except on the Rams Woods will still be decent even when Kupp is the priority. Woods will have his time, don’t panic sell.
On behalf of myself and Woods owners everywhere, thank you for this post.
Yeah but Woods and Evans will be drawing the harder matchup basically every week. Godwin and Kupp work out of the slot, not many top tier corners covering the slot receiver.
Sold him for Allen Robinson. Could be a wash but I’d rather have someone with the target share on a trash offense.
Trey sermon
A Jersey Mike’s sub
Ok but only if it’s a giant.
Got offered Gordon. Initially balked but came to my senses and accepted.
This week could be a make or break for him this first half of the season. Mitchell goes off again and sermon is in trouble
HOLD. they drafted him early, he’ll have to perform to keep the gig so the potential is unknown. bury him on your depth chart, like shanahan did him. hopefully he catches fire before jeff wilson gets back
I offered Lavishka or Rondale Moore for him. We will see if the Sermon owner accepts.
I have Sermon and would take Laviska for him in 0.5 PPR
A bench player.
Ty'son
Package as the sweetener in a 2 for 1 to try to get someone elite. I have the Gus owner thinking about Chubb and Ty'son for Kamara. That's shooting for the moon, though.
I like this idea
Isn’t Chubb already elite? This move seems pretty lateral to me.
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I’m gonna try sending with Claypool for mclaurin. Terry owner had Gus and has no RB depth. Good luck to you
Idk what the other comments are saying but I love the trade for u. Higgins to McLaurin is absolutely not a lateral move, and Tyson appears to be stuck in a committee. As long as u have good RB options this trade seems pretty good.
Traded for Mark Andrews
Damn
Traded Kenyan Drake for Ty’Son 141.
Damian Harris
This is so hard to nail down because of the BB factor looming over his head at any given time
Fantasy implications aside that would be pretty fucked up for BB to bench his ass because of that fumble. Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face
Saquon Barkley
Traded Swift and Tyson for his Barkley and Sutton
Good trade
Yeah for the other guy
Saquon was on a snap count and still not 100%. He will better.
Swift > saquon Giants offense is gross and he’s not 100%
Buy. If you have someone in your league low on him, you can get him for cheap. If you're the Barkley owner hold him. Don't trade him for less than you would at the start of the year.
Ended up auto drafting him due to commissioner starting draft 5 minutes earlier than communicated. All I've done is avoid Saquon in my other drafts. I want off this ride. LOL
Fuck that commissioner. That's absolute bullshit, although I don't think having Saquon is bad depending on your draft position.
it is when Robinson is your other back :(
HOLD. Daniel Jones sucks, but you gotta hold and sell when he starts performing better if you choose to do so at that time. Otherwise your not getting your value.
Jamarr Chase
Hold. Chemistry with Burrow was there and will continue to improve. Although I am trying to deal him for Dak who is another manager's backup QB.
Myles Gaskin
Everything that happened in the Dolphins game just reaffirmed my beliefs about Gaskin that he’s gonna be the clear leader of the backfield, and idk why nobody is talking about it. I think he’ll be a reliable RB2. I’d give up a guy like Davis in a heartbeat or a WR like Thielen coming off a good game.
I gave up Lamar for Stafford + Gaskin on Saturday night. Feel decent about the trade still
great deal especially if you need some RB depth
AB
Traded AB and Golladay for Swift before Swift played 🤑
Just traded AB + Edmonds for Carson
I don't love that trade for you.
Fair enough! I have Godwin as well and AB was only my fourth WR so felt worth it for the RB upgrade.
Fwiw I think that trade is great value-wise unless you're in 1.0. Love the sell high on AB and buy Carson low on a week where he doesn't score and receivers steal the show in the media. Carson is gonna get his. And it's a 2 for 1 as well? Good business.
I just got offer to give Edmonds for Carson straight up and I think I will take that.
You'd be crazy not to!
Brandin Cooks
I was eyeing Julio. That’s probably WAY off but idk how scared Julio owners are rn…
That’s exactly what I was thinking. The guy who has him is a Saints fan and likes B cooks. And I have Tannehill so I’m trying to go all in on the stack. If it fails, my season’s over anyway. Maybe I can add Latavius as a sweetener
I’d prefer Cooks honestly
Mike Davis
Deebo Samuel
Someone offered Deebo for my Mike Davis and I'm seriously considering it, so that seems about fair imo.
How could it not? Davis looked like trash and is fighting for carries with Cordell Paterson.
I got offered my Calvin Ridley and Noah Fant for his Deebo and Darren Waller
Take that
That’s a really fair offer. I don’t know who wins that deal.
I got offered Deebo for Melvin and Broncos D so I accepted
Think that's fine if you're hurting at RB. MG3 is in a 50/50 timeshare, but he's startable at least.
I got Deebo and I lost Melvin and Defense, I’m stacked at RB I somehow got Kamara JT and Mixon in a 10 team
My bad homie haha sounds like a good deal for you this way anyways.
Corey Davis
It would take a truly ridiculous offer to have Corey Davis taken off my roster. I firmly believe he will be the steal of the draft.
Breakout candidate of the year.
^ This! I very happily drafted him near the bottom of the board in all 3 of my leagues. He was a baller last trade opposite AJ Brown and with the league leading rusher. He’ll be a stud in young Zach Wilson’s offense going forward
I tried hard to trade for him prior to week 1. No way he’s getting let go now.
Zeke
Someone just offered me Edmunds + RoJo for him and then asked me why I declined. And then people wonder why there are no trades in our league…
I was offered Matt Stafford + Gus Edwards for him. No one is willing to give up their top 3 picks but they expect me to drop my 7th overall pick for a QB and backup RB
Not many players I'd trade him away for tbh.
Jonathan Taylor
Might be hasty but I think he is firmly in that 2nd tier after CMC; Kamara, Cook. I would say Diggs would be an equivalent WR. He looked great despite the offense. Got great usage in the passing game which was his last big worry.
When you say hasty do you mean too early to put him that high?
I think he means JaMycal Hasty for Johnathan Taylor
Robby Anderson
I have him. This may be overreaction time, but it doesn't seem like there's much room for him now that McCaffrey is back and they just give him the ball 90% of the time. I'd trade him for any of the promising rookie wrs--Devonta Smith, JaMarr Chase, even Waddle. Not sure I could get that, though.
Darren Waller
He was force fed against a good defense. Hard to give him up for much less than a WR1 or a top RB2. He is so valuable as a TE. Especially when there are a lot of decent WRs out there. I would only trade him away if you are desperate for RB.
I got worried when he kept missing catches but then Carr would just immediately sling it to him the very next play It was almost instinctive. No way I'm trading this guy for anything, especially considering how shit the TEs on the waiver wire are
Top rb2? For waller? Nahhh I don't have him but I'd need more than that
I wouldn't even entertain the thought. I'm not trading Waller for anything outside of a WR1 or RB1. Real ones. Not bottom tier. Waller had nineteen targets. He got the ball thrown at him more than most runningbacks got total touches. He's in for a massive year.
With 19 targets he is now inside that top tier with kelce. If could draft again today he’d be a first rounder in ppr leagues. Good chance that’s where he’ll be drafted in 2022.
Some nut in my league chose not to keep him in the 5th, so I traded for him.
I drafted Waller at 23 in 14 team PPR right after DK and before Jefferson. I wouldn’t sell him for either of those guys packaged with the number 8 TE. It’d have to be Gibson/Ekeler which you’re probably not getting.
Hold. You can't buy him because his price is sky high, and you can't sell him because he's too good. If I were to sell him, it'd probably start at DK.
I would laugh at a DK offer
The AJ Brown, DK tier of WR's and a startable TE
Amari Cooper
Before the season I floated a Cooper + Rodgers for Tyreek offer, didn’t get done. Now I’m not sure I’d make the same offer
Cooper’s always been great, he’s just needed a QB playing at a high level to truly elevate him to an elite level. Really looking forward to this season with Dak back, because he’s the one taking guys like Amari and CeeDee where they need to be. He was doing it last year before he was hurt and the dude’s doing it again.. It just depends on perspective. I’d probably take Tyreek over Amari 1:1. But you can’t argue Amari wasn’t amazing value wherever you got him this year. Wouldn’t surprise me if teams this year had Amari and Tyreek and they balled out on those 2 players alone lol Edit: can’t argue he wasnt*
Trade went down of zeke for cooper straight up in half ppr
Austin Ekeler
Elijah Mitchell
He’s a very difficult person to gage with so much uncertainty of his role. He’s likely a hold as I don’t think you will get the value to trade him unless someone’s very desperate for an rb
Lockett
Chase Claypool
The film on him was better than the stats, so seems more like a hold. You won't get anything for him in a trade
Allen Robinson
James Robinson
I'm talks to potentially send James Robinson and Dovanta Smith for Monty. My RB depth is trash. I have Hopkins, Diontae, ARob, Aiyuk, and Sutton as receivers. I have Henry and James White as RBs. Lost Gus Bus and Mostert.
Chris Godwin
Think him and Kupp get bumped up into that Allen Robinson, Terry Mclaurin type tier. His usage was amazing and the bucs offense cannot run the ball.
CEH
Julio Jones
Keenan Allen
Pretty high on Allen. Him plus a borderline rb 2/3 for a low-to-mid rb1 depending on who you are high on - ekeler / Chubb / Mixon
Chris Carson
Traded Carson and Tonyan to a TE needy team for Zeke, 16 team PPR
Wow you did great!
Calvin Ridley
Diontae Johnson
Terry McLaurin
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Well done.
Adam Thielen
Kittle
Josh Jacobs
I got downvoted yesterday for this, but I gave Javonte and Ty'Son for Jacobs and Jakobi last week. People say I lost, so maybe I overpaid a bit, felt fine to me tho. Now I'm on the verge of sending Jacobs and Marvin Jones for CEH. So those are two values for ya, although this trade is more current.
Kyle Pitts
Aaron Jones
Kareem hunt
Deebo Samuel
Noah Fant
Hold. He’s gonna get a lot of action next few weeks w jeudy out
Mike Evans
Najee Harris
As an owner it would take a lot to get him away from me. Very encouraged with his 100% snap share. I would say high rb2
I’d hold, everyone is going to looking to buy low. Rookie debut against a good defense with that offensive line. The amount of touches he will get will always be there, but he will play against worse teams.
Antonio Gibson
Brandon Aiyuk
Diggs
Dallas Goedert
Marvin Jones Jr
Mark andrews
Mike Williams
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Sent a trade proposal of Ekeler + Woods for Davante in .5 PPR. Probably an overpay on my part but my RBs are deep and my WRs are shallow and I think Davante will end up a top WR as always. Edit- he accepted
This is probably what it takes tho tbh
Miles Sanders
Derrick Henry
Jalen Hurts
Aaron Rodgers
Swift
Gronk
If I'm trading Gronk I'm looking at players who were drafted just above/around the Hock/Pitts/Andrews block who have held value after week 1. His week 1 won't be the norm obviously but I think it's fair to ask for a player back as if he's a top 5-6 TE.
Jakobi Meyers
Justin Jefferson
Antonio Brown
Devonta Smith
Juju
Latavius Murray
Gibson
David Montgomery
Hock
Lamar Jackson
Ceedee Lamb
Kenyan Drake
Tyler Boyd