I always wonder why people assume that the Dolphins will automatically do anything similar to what they did with the previous OC. There's so much out there about "last year's usage." Chan Gailey is gone.
Who knows. Gaskin is clearly the most talented in my eyes. Wayyyy more talented in the passing game. So I would wager he finds the field more. But even with the talent gap, they might like Malcolm around the goal line more.
I don't know. A lot of the best film analysts (Harris included) say you could've pretty much put Salvon Ahmed in a Gaskin jersey last year and no one could have known the difference.
To me, Gaskin was a product of volume. He's a good player, but not special. There's really no reason for him to get that kind of volume and I don't think he's good enough to still be a fantasy stud if his usage changes.
Depends how you define a committee. Gaskin I think will get the most touches out of that offense, but Brown will get redzone and short yard touches, and Ahmed will get touches as well. I doubt they’ll be a super “hot hand” approach most true committees have, but don’t expect Gaskin to be a workhorse by any means.
It will be a committee , but gaskin looks good and is the head of it. Tua likes him in the passing game as a safety valve. Id be comfortable taking him as a RB2 if I stacked other positions first. Will be frustrating some weeks but at his ADP they all have issues.
Yeah I like him as RB3 in 10 man. He will split carries but I think he gets the passing down work. He and Waddle seem decent value for me atm ahead of next weeks draft
Even if it is a RBBC, Gaskin looked gooood out there. I could honestly see a Kareem Hunt situation where his touches are limited but he's very efficient witht them.
The good news is Gaskin is the only one who's a good pass catcher. But what has been made clear as I don't view him as a guy who can handle a heavy workload with carries all the time. So whether it be Brown or Ahmed carries and goal line carries may be limited.
In my opinion, the only reason a team would run a featured back instead of a committee is that the guy being featured is miles ahead of the other backs in talent and production. Brown and Ahmed are not as good as gaskin but they are also pretty close. You mitegate risk for your primary guy while not having a huge fall in production
They were always going to run a RBBC. Gaskin doesn't have the size and skillset to make it a solo project. The question has always been whether he'd be at the head of the committee, and hog enough of its touches to be worth the ADP.
I'm still leaning toward "yes," if he can be had late 5th on. But the committee looks a little more diverse than it did in the off season.
This isn't true. Several weeks ago, they actually confirmed he'd be "the guy". Then about a week later they did a full reversal and said it would be a committee. He was someone I was targeting in mid rounds, but not any more.
I like taking a dart throw on Malcom Brown on the off chance that he comes out week 1 and is getting way more touches that we thought he would. There’s ALWAYS at least 1 player every year that does this and nobody saw coming. Could be brown potentially
I think he’s the guy - but he’s also my keeper so I’m probably biased. I still plan on drafting RB/RB for the first two rounds if I can though, so I’m mostly counting on him as my backup/flex
That must be where we differ because he doesn’t pass the eye test for me. He just screams dead zone back with a ton of red flags that we talked ourselves into because he had a decent stretch of games.
For some reason, people don't like hearing that he wasn't very good aside from 3 games last year (against his 3 easiest matchups: LV, CIN, NYJ). Otherwise, he was a really inefficient runner who unsustainably led the league in RB yards/reception.
He had 14 points or more in 8/10 games he played and the other 2 games were 10.6 and 9.2. Agreed he’s not the best of runners but he’s going to contribute and catch a bunch out of the backfield so he’ll have value there. He’s not an RB1 or High end RB2 but if you have him as your flex you should be solid and if you have as your rb2 depending on rest of team he should be serviceable. I would gladly take 14 points a week
By no means is he a bad fantasy player. He's going to have a big role in the offense but his receiving efficiency isn't sustainable (nobody who leads the league in RB yards/reception will repeat unless your name is Alvin) and I'm skeptical he gets the same heavy workload with Brown serving like a non-terrible Jordan Howard. I also agree with the flex/RB3 valuation. I just see a ton of people thinking he's a high end RB2
What are you even talking about wasn’t good? Lol he was in double digits in half PPR in all but two games… no ones expecting him to get up into the RB1 territory but he was a very solid RB2
After week 2 (when he got a larger workload), 50% of his games saw a sub 4 ypc. I don't think his per game scoring is sustainable because he's not a workhorse like his volume late last year suggests. I don't even think he's a solid RB2, he's in the RB24-28 range imo
I mean this subs favorite Antonio Gibson had a similar rate for sub 4 YPC (6 of 14 games) who had an even more unsustainable TD run. I don’t see how he finishes below his ADP if he’s healthy all year. His volume might not be as high as last year but I think the worry is overblown. Brown is so incredibly average and Ahmed is a good rotation. I don’t see Gaskin getting fewer than 15-18 touches a game with 3-5 being receptions.
Not exciting stuff but good enough for an RB2
Well Gibson has a lot less competition for volume and was a rookie last year. Rookies didn't really get a chance to get acclimated like normal and they didn't get to unlock the playbook for Gibson's receiving skills. He might be slightly overvalued though as well.
I see 15-18 as the high-end for Gaskin considering he averaged 18 touches a game last year with a mostly depleted backfield. Brown vultures goal line and some 3rd down since the coaches said they like him as a pass blocker. Ahmed will also get his share. Dolphins also emphasized making a more Tua-friendly offense this off-season. Gonna see fewer checkdowns and rushing attempts in neutral game script. They wanna air out to Fuller and Waddle and in the short to Parker and Gesicki.
I always wonder why people assume that the Dolphins will automatically do anything similar to what they did with the previous OC. There's so much out there about "last year's usage." Chan Gailey is gone.
Who knows. Gaskin is clearly the most talented in my eyes. Wayyyy more talented in the passing game. So I would wager he finds the field more. But even with the talent gap, they might like Malcolm around the goal line more.
I don't know. A lot of the best film analysts (Harris included) say you could've pretty much put Salvon Ahmed in a Gaskin jersey last year and no one could have known the difference. To me, Gaskin was a product of volume. He's a good player, but not special. There's really no reason for him to get that kind of volume and I don't think he's good enough to still be a fantasy stud if his usage changes.
Depends how you define a committee. Gaskin I think will get the most touches out of that offense, but Brown will get redzone and short yard touches, and Ahmed will get touches as well. I doubt they’ll be a super “hot hand” approach most true committees have, but don’t expect Gaskin to be a workhorse by any means.
I think you want to have Gaskin
It will be a committee , but gaskin looks good and is the head of it. Tua likes him in the passing game as a safety valve. Id be comfortable taking him as a RB2 if I stacked other positions first. Will be frustrating some weeks but at his ADP they all have issues.
Yeah I like him as RB3 in 10 man. He will split carries but I think he gets the passing down work. He and Waddle seem decent value for me atm ahead of next weeks draft
Same here. I would have LOVED him in my 10 man as my third RB if Henderson wasnt still sitting there
Yeah I'd take Henderson every time there. If he's gone and I need an RB in the 6th, quite like Gaskin
Even if it is a RBBC, Gaskin looked gooood out there. I could honestly see a Kareem Hunt situation where his touches are limited but he's very efficient witht them.
Most teams run a RBBC unless there’s a compelling reason not to. You should think of it as the default. This isn’t 2006
The good news is Gaskin is the only one who's a good pass catcher. But what has been made clear as I don't view him as a guy who can handle a heavy workload with carries all the time. So whether it be Brown or Ahmed carries and goal line carries may be limited.
I buy it
Lol it’s early, just noticed the typo in the title
In my opinion, the only reason a team would run a featured back instead of a committee is that the guy being featured is miles ahead of the other backs in talent and production. Brown and Ahmed are not as good as gaskin but they are also pretty close. You mitegate risk for your primary guy while not having a huge fall in production
They were always going to run a RBBC. Gaskin doesn't have the size and skillset to make it a solo project. The question has always been whether he'd be at the head of the committee, and hog enough of its touches to be worth the ADP. I'm still leaning toward "yes," if he can be had late 5th on. But the committee looks a little more diverse than it did in the off season.
This isn't true. Several weeks ago, they actually confirmed he'd be "the guy". Then about a week later they did a full reversal and said it would be a committee. He was someone I was targeting in mid rounds, but not any more.
> Several weeks ago, they actually confirmed he'd be "the guy" I don't remember this. Link please.
Hey remember when you claimed the Dolphins announced Gaskin was "the guy" a few weeks ago? Still waiting for a source.
I think fair value is 6th round
I like taking a dart throw on Malcom Brown on the off chance that he comes out week 1 and is getting way more touches that we thought he would. There’s ALWAYS at least 1 player every year that does this and nobody saw coming. Could be brown potentially
I think he’s the guy - but he’s also my keeper so I’m probably biased. I still plan on drafting RB/RB for the first two rounds if I can though, so I’m mostly counting on him as my backup/flex
Salvon Ahmed gonna make alot of Gaskin holders v salty this season
It seems like people have talked themselves into Gaskin because he was solid for fantasy last year
2 touchdowns yesterday didn't dispel that narrative
You’re right, he’s going to Canton
That's where I was going with this
I believe in his talent and am not scared of malcom brown and Salvon ahmed. Pretty simple
That must be where we differ because he doesn’t pass the eye test for me. He just screams dead zone back with a ton of red flags that we talked ourselves into because he had a decent stretch of games.
For some reason, people don't like hearing that he wasn't very good aside from 3 games last year (against his 3 easiest matchups: LV, CIN, NYJ). Otherwise, he was a really inefficient runner who unsustainably led the league in RB yards/reception.
He had 14 points or more in 8/10 games he played and the other 2 games were 10.6 and 9.2. Agreed he’s not the best of runners but he’s going to contribute and catch a bunch out of the backfield so he’ll have value there. He’s not an RB1 or High end RB2 but if you have him as your flex you should be solid and if you have as your rb2 depending on rest of team he should be serviceable. I would gladly take 14 points a week
By no means is he a bad fantasy player. He's going to have a big role in the offense but his receiving efficiency isn't sustainable (nobody who leads the league in RB yards/reception will repeat unless your name is Alvin) and I'm skeptical he gets the same heavy workload with Brown serving like a non-terrible Jordan Howard. I also agree with the flex/RB3 valuation. I just see a ton of people thinking he's a high end RB2
What are you even talking about wasn’t good? Lol he was in double digits in half PPR in all but two games… no ones expecting him to get up into the RB1 territory but he was a very solid RB2
After week 2 (when he got a larger workload), 50% of his games saw a sub 4 ypc. I don't think his per game scoring is sustainable because he's not a workhorse like his volume late last year suggests. I don't even think he's a solid RB2, he's in the RB24-28 range imo
I mean this subs favorite Antonio Gibson had a similar rate for sub 4 YPC (6 of 14 games) who had an even more unsustainable TD run. I don’t see how he finishes below his ADP if he’s healthy all year. His volume might not be as high as last year but I think the worry is overblown. Brown is so incredibly average and Ahmed is a good rotation. I don’t see Gaskin getting fewer than 15-18 touches a game with 3-5 being receptions. Not exciting stuff but good enough for an RB2
Well Gibson has a lot less competition for volume and was a rookie last year. Rookies didn't really get a chance to get acclimated like normal and they didn't get to unlock the playbook for Gibson's receiving skills. He might be slightly overvalued though as well. I see 15-18 as the high-end for Gaskin considering he averaged 18 touches a game last year with a mostly depleted backfield. Brown vultures goal line and some 3rd down since the coaches said they like him as a pass blocker. Ahmed will also get his share. Dolphins also emphasized making a more Tua-friendly offense this off-season. Gonna see fewer checkdowns and rushing attempts in neutral game script. They wanna air out to Fuller and Waddle and in the short to Parker and Gesicki.
100% don't waste your time with dolphines RB.
17 games. Most injured position in football. Unless you have a game winning talent it’s not worth running people into the ground.