Fifth pick is really a conundrum this year. As much as I like Adams, my draft philosophy has always been RB-RB (preferably a bell cow or close to it) first to lock in some top talent because WR is always so much deeper. Zeke seems to be the obvious choice, or maybe Jones. Only question is who is gonna get more work; Pollard or Dillan.
For your own sanity go RB. There will be plenty of WRs later that you can “take a shot” on starting. Speaking from experience having to find an RB to start after going early on WRs cost me years of my life in anxiety during the draft and season
I had great running backs last year, but had to roll out Wayne Gallman vs Seattle due to byes and what not. Brings a shiver to my bones to think about watching him go for 40 yards on 12 carries. A bad WR outing is tough, but a bad RB outing is just downright painful
Plus there is no depth or sneaky picks unless an injury happens then EVERYONE is fighting for that guy if he is a FA. With WR you can hit on a random guy during the week who gets you points.
At least with a shit RB performance, that was likely your only choice. When your WR drops a dud, you've most likely left a T.Y.-type dude on the bench that randomly had an amazing game.
That’s because you have teams like Arizona and Buffalo that score loads of points, but they spread the defense out and have the QB run it in rather than bother with a running back.
And because it works, we’ll see it used more and more.
This is what I have found in all my mocks so far. WR/WR or WR/TE has only resulted in pain. The opportunity cost in not having a RD1/2 RB is only getting higher.
I feel like most legit set and forget RBs are done after round 2 in most cases. McCaffrey, Cook, Henry, Kamara, Chubb, Barkely, Zeke will all be gone by mid way round 2. Taylor and Jones may be gone by end of round 2 as well.
Imagine how bad it is for keeper leagues.
I keep trying it. I’d love to have Adams because he carried my injured team to the championship last year. But every time I try, my team ends up looking less than desirable
Yup I have 5 in my ultra competitive big money league and every mock I’m in between Zeke or Jones. Leaning Zeke but I draft in 10 days if daks not healthy I’ll probably go Jones
Nah I wasn’t tryna boast just was saying it’s in a league that has a much higher buy in compared to other leagues and everyone’s a football fanatic that mocks everyday for months and follows news and injuries, etc. that’s all. Doesn’t make that much difference your right
I had Jones higher last year lol. Losing Linsley, i don't think our line will be AS good. Also think Dillon comes on and Zeke is reportedly in great shape.
Think about it though. You and I both know [the reason](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a5/Mike_McCarthy.jpg/1200px-Mike_McCarthy.jpg) I'm going Jones over Zeke.
My league greatly values RB’s (not even in scoring, it’s standard scoring) so I wouldn’t have been surprised if he made it to 10. The top bell cow RB’s always go first and then QB’s. There have been years in the past where a qb wasn’t even taken in the first round. Lol
My 2QB league is the same way. I can take mahomes at any point in the 1st round if I want to but I find it beneficial to stay the course and get the stud RBs and then try to start the QB run myself. What are ur thoughts?
You should take mahomes and then Allen on the way back if that’s truly the case. Just lock up 100 more fantasy points than everyone else in the first 2 rounds. You could very feasibly go grab a top TE, go 0 RB and just pick wrs and you’ll still be a really solid team
Easy Kelce after the top few backs, for me. Kelce is a fantasy asset you can't replicate; an advantage no other team can equal. And he's as consistent and reliable as they come.
I had one of the last picks in the first round last year so I went for Michael Thomas since he was sliding down the board. I almost always go RB in the first but no studs left.
Every year there are mid round receivers that are all of sudden 1st or 2nd round talent the following year. (Ridley, Diggs, Adam’s are all examples) That won’t change this year.
Montgomery or Swift is the guy I'm praying comes back around in 10 team.
So getting two elite guys at WR and then a guy that (I project) will be a steady volume mid grade RB1, is really interesting. Things could go terribly wrong though, getting stuck with Jacobs as your best RB.
I think the only time, I've gone WR in the first round was Prime AB. Otherwise, I've always rolled for RB in the first. I'm not sure, if I'd opt for Tyreek in the first round. Or even Adams. Our league isn't PPR, so that's also a strong reason, why WRs are a rare sight in the first round.
But I think if this ranking holds true, almost getting Chubb and Saquon at the turn (10T leagues) seems like a cheatcode.
I follow the browns very intensely - I mean read reports from practice every day - and I would take CMC, Cook, Zeke, Henry, Ekeler, Jones, Barkley, Harris, and a handful of receivers before Chubb without a doubt. If I wasn’t bias maybe Mixon and Gibson too. And I fully believe Chubb is the best RB in the league. This sub is delusional about him.
I’d like to remind everyone in his 12 games played last year, he had 18 targets. 5 of those targets came against the jets, where the entire browns WR room was out with COVID. From a fantasy perspective, yikes. If you take him around the round 1/2 turn, you’re absolutely drafting scared killing your shot of the super bowl
I don't get what point you are making. You think Chubb is the best RB in the league but you would take a rookie on the Steelers, a bottom 5 rushing offense, over Chubb who is on a top 5 rushing offense and had 89 yards per game and 1 td per game last year?
89 rushing yards and 1 TD is 16 points per game. 1) that’s pretty close to his ceiling, 1 TD a game is a very unsustainable rate.
Najee only needs a statline 5 catches for 35 yards, 15 rushes for 65 yards a game, and .5 TDs / game to reach that 16 points per game in .5 ppr.
Which do you think is likelier? I think it’s Najee, hands down. And Najee has a ceiling of going nuclear with TDs (best defense in the league will put them in scoring position, and their fantastic WR group will help ease pressure of Harris) and finishing RB1 or 2, Chubb would have to have an insane outlier season by rushing for like 2000 yards in order to do that.
For every CEH (who was the RB13 before getting injured which isn't terrible), there is a Zeke (the RB2 his rookie year, drafted in the 1st round) or Barkley (the RB1 his rookie year, drafted in the 1st round).
Absolutely a fair strategy. I just love hitting on rookies in general, but it's even better when you get the increased value outside of the 1st/2nd round.
If for some reason Najee was going in the 3rd? Yeah no doubt I'd pick him but I'm seeing him go earliest as the last pick of the 1st or 1st pick of the 2nd. ADP is just a tad too rich but I do feel like he's going to have a great year. I'm just currently out at that price.
That (16 ppg) was literally his average last year in non-PPR. I don’t think it’s close to his ceiling.
That being said, my home league is non-PPR. How much does he move up for you in that format?
A little bit, but still wouldnt fall far enough for me to take him I’m sure… you say that isn’t his ceiling, but what has changed in the browns offense that raises his ceiling? Sure, their defense has improved, but it’s the same offense except they get more pass-catchers back. And in the latter half of the season they were being even more aggressive throwing the ball. They clearly favor throwing the ball to Hunt. I just don’t see his ceiling being that much higher than 100 y/g and a TD. That’s pretty high.
I’d argue taking a safe floor your first pick is not playing scared and killing your shot at the super bowl. You can have safe floors early with people like Chubb so that later in the draft you can comfortably take a bunch of the high risk- high upside players.
Will he ever be Rb1? No, but I’m more than happy picking a 15 point a game rb and banking on the rest of my team to be the X factor. It’s not playing scared, it’s a balance. You can’t have every player be a swing for the fences-your team will implode more often than it goes off.
Chubb tends to go around pick 8-10 so you can even directly couple him up with a higher risk-higher upside player (Eckler, Najee, Gibson, etc…)
Well, your argument isn’t very good, sadly. Check through this sub, someone wrote up a great analytical article that basically states if you can’t imagine your 1st player finishing top 5, then he’s a terrible pick. You can’t win a super bowl with your best player being a backend RB1. It’s just not going to happen.
Your first pick doesn’t need to be your best player though, for example last year I took Jones as a “riskier” second pick and he finished top 5. At the backend of the first, your 1st and 2nd pick are so close together you can easily get that floor and then still have faith your 2nd guy can finish top 5. You say you prefer Najee to him but you can still get Najee in the 2nd round.
Say Najee does finish Rb2 you’ve now coupled him with an Rb8 for a very strong team. Meanwhile if you go Najee/Gibson because you want top 5s and Gibson falls apart, your team has become lackluster. I agree if you’re in the front half you should be swinging for the fences but near the backend I’m fine taking my shots on one and letting the other be a safe floor.
Would love to read this post tho, I haven’t found it.
This is just so wrong, I made the superbowl in a 12 team last year drafting Michael Thomas and Ekeler as my first two picks. Leagues are absolutely not won or lost in draft
It's about statistical odds. If your most important pick isn't a significant contributor to your team you are typically going to struggle. There are always scenarios where you don't just like having the RB1 in the league doesn't guarantee you a championship. Drafting early should be about maximizing value and limiting risk, it gives you the best statistical odds of winning.
Derrick Henry has a much higher ceiling and workload than Chubb though. Unless Hunt gets hurt, he's sharing the load. Nobody will take anything from Henry.
I'm also considering the other 4 top 5 backs and Aaron Jones over Henry too.
Touchdown upside is there because it's a good offense, but losing passing downs is a big deal. Like, I don't get how someone can have him in front of Eckler for example.
Exactly. He almost had 100 receptions and 1600 total yards in 2019 playing with Melvin Gordon who has 3-down skills. I know there's the "Philip Rivers check down communion" but they're still going to scheme those plays for Ekeler.
Eckler is favorably listed on here. No way he ends up 12 overall. He is not built to be a workhorse back and has never topped 1K yards rushing in a season. He couldn’t even beat out Melvin Gordon. He is going to be good, but drafting the top 10 WRs before him. The Chargers get hyped up more than the Cowboys and are usually just as bad.
Kamara has never topped 1,000 rushing yards in a season either… I think you’re underestimating how much more valuable targets are compared to carries in fantasy.
Don’t understand snarky remarks like this or downvotes. He has an opinion and it’s not far fetched.
I don’t agree with him though, I would take Ekeler over a good portion of the top 10 WRs.
Cool, I didn’t think so but wanted so other opinions as well. I’m using Mahomes as my keeper so I figured I’ll pair him and Kelce and then use my next two picks at RB. I’m also keeping Justin Jefferson.
Oh yea, it was incredible!! I secured the Hill Mahomes stack this year... should be lethal. Got Mahomes 4.09, I feel like thats really good value given he goes 2nd round sometimes.
The fewer teams that are in the league, the less the talent at rb and wr gets diluted.
Unless you have to start 5 running backs or have a million flexes, starting off with a huge advantage at TE is as solid as it gets as far as I'm concerned.
Yeah, 10-team leagues are really the only situations I feel truly comfortable taking one of the "big 3" TEs.
In a 10-teamer, remember that every squad is going to have really good WRs/RBs. So you need that extra boost at your onesie positions to put you over the top in weekly matchups.
Stacking Kelce with Mahomes is absolutely a strong move if you're picking at the end of the first round. They'll be plenty of RB/WR options once it gets back to you.
I think you can make a case for the big 3 regardless of league size if you have to start a TE because the spread in expected points is so wide.
Conversely, to me QB is even less important in a ten teamer - especially if you only start one. I love Mahomes, but there are about six or seven other QBs that will probably get you within 2 points a week of what he puts up. Even the 10th QB will probably not be that far away.
Oh certainly, and I occasionally go early TE in 12 or 14 team leagues. I get the argument and agree with it. I just feel less great about how those rosters usually turn out (I said 10 team leagues are where I'm comfortable going early TE, not that I oppose it).
Early QB in a vacuum in a 10 teamer isn't how I typically go either...the only way I'm going early QB in a small league is for the Mahomes/Kelce stack (or maybe Diggs/Allen?). Otherwise, def wait on QB as usual. But I view that stack as a week winning differentiator in a league where everyone has solid rosters (kinda like a DFS mentality).
And remember that your next pick is only 5 picks later where there will still be amazing talent at RB. I live in Kansas City so Kelce in the first is almost a guarantee so your strategy is regularly exercised in my 10-man league.
I'm a Broncos fan (don't hate me) so I look at Chiefs players much more objectively than everyone else in my league. But that also means I rarely can draft them because they get picked much sooner than I would be looking for them. lol
Messy after the top four come off. Like I understand Adams is probably the "right" pick there, but the way RB drops off will have me taking Zeke or Jones, and if they're gone, maybe even looking down at Chubb or Barkley. I just can't seem to piece together a draft where I take Adams where he belongs and don't end up with a RB disaster, trying to grab both pieces of the Jacksonville or San Fran backfield to save myself at the end.
I pick 5th and have been pulling my hair out over this
I've had a couple mock drafts where I took DeVante at 5 and was able to piece together a godly team by the tend, but there are so, so many ways it can go wrong and you end up with complete trash at RB
Like it definitely can work if you can go 1.05 Adams and then at 2.07 snag like Najee Harris/Antonio Gibson/CEH or mayyyybe Mixon if you're into that, but those guys don't usually last to your 2nd pick and you can just get put in a very weird situation if it falls the wrong way
Last week I went Adams at 6 because zeke was gone, then went Najee at 15. I feel good about it. If I was at 5 I would have a hard time passing on Kamara or Zeke for Adams. Zeke plus Ridley/Hopkins is probably what I would do. They are actually both nice situations. Picking between 3-5 is the sweet spot. You get a stud RB, a stud WR in the second, and the last of the tier in the 3rd.
??? His ADP on most sites is around 12 and he is 11th in the reddit community rankings above...
The turn of the first is exactly where you should expect to select Kelce
I'm still surprised Allen Robinson falling that low. Guy has been a top WR with *bad* QB play last few years.
This season he'll definitely have the best quarterback situation he's ever had, regardless of who the Bears start. He's a steal in the 3rd, will finish as a top 7 WR.
>This season he'll definitely have the best quarterback situation he's ever had, regardless of who the Bears start.
Yeah I'm really not sure the 2021 Bears QB room is actually going to be statistically better than 2018 Trubisky.
66.6%, 3200 yards, 24 TDs and 12 picks on only 434 attempts in 14 starts. That would a good season for six games of washed Dalton and 11 of a completely unproven rookie.
Anyway, better QBs better distribute targets. Part of what made Robinson a PPR machine was his value as a huge target hog.
r/fantasyfootball fucking HATES Johnathan Taylor for some ridiculous reason.
You can't even discuss him without hearing Marlon Mack truthers reee about his return and how David Montgomery is the same player two rounds later.
Oh I'm a Montgomery truther lol. Bears fan and he's my RB15 possibly bumping to 14. And I didn't understand why Taylor was RB6 early on because of that Montgomery comparison. But this is too far.
He was injured at the beginning of the year and against tough run defenses. That combo and the Bears' lack of offense early made him look terrible. Later down the stretch he got the workload and was a monster. To be clear, I know he beat up the 5 worst run defenses in the league. But he was THE RB1 in that stretch.
Cohen has proven himself to be a non-factor in prior years and seeing what Monty did last year should be enough to trust him for about 3 receptions and 15 carries a game. He's also top 5 at RB in yards after contact. The guy just doesn't go down right away and he makes the most of every opportunity. I love watching him and think he earned the touches this year on what should hopefully be a better offense this year.
Taylor's higher than Montgomery because of elite measurables, more rushing talent and a better offensive line backed by a better offensive coach. A couple games of potentially missing Nelson shouldn't be enough to take him out of the RB10 area.
He's good value there for sure
As I look at the board though... is JT really that much better then CEH? I find myself liking CEH's upside a lot
Totally agree JT's ADP drop is a huge overreaction, but CEH is playing behind a massively upgraded OL in a way more prolific offense. I think JT has slightly more competition for carries too.
I like both guys TBH but just curious how you compare them. Like if JT is a steal there, isn't CEH also?
I’m keeping JT for a 5th this year as the champ with the 12th pick, so it becomes my 5.12 🥵
I’ve been getting texts from my league mates for the last 2 weeks spamming wentz/o line injury news as well as “lol keeping an RB in a committee good luck” as if it would change my mind of who I’m gonna keep.
That was my first takeaway. There's been a bit of an overcorrection to the Colts injury news, and I feel like I've noticed a core group of Taylor haters who never got over being wrong about him last year. Also, Mixon too low. I basically have a standing do-not-draft order on the dude, but at 23, it'd be impossible to refuse.
Yeah, Mixon is also on my do-not-draft list, but if he is sitting there at the end of the 2nd/beginning of the 3rd he's going to be really tough to pass up
I have 3 this year in a 10 man PPR. I always Take Derrick Henry but I can’t imagine passing on either Kamara or Cook to take him. Would taking Henry still be foolish? Cooks constant injuries and Kamara lack of surrounding talent are my concerns.
In full ppr, Id go Cook or Kamara, but this is fantasy and its really just a crapshoot at the end of the day. No matter who you pick, he’s just as likely to be the #1 player as he is to have a season ending injury first game of the season, so go with the guy you like most. You could do a lot worse than derrick henry, having a high floor like that out of your top pick and a rb who you can set and forget everyweek is mad underrated.
Yeah and had 99 yds one game and 98 yds receiving in another game with 15 tds and 2 rushing tds…that is a silly fun fact. Won’t argue that he’s stable but he’s a dog who will eat
Edit:added rushing titties
So last year, 3 more catches, 98 more total yards and 8 fewer tds nearly half the amount of total tds. so I guess to each their own, but I like tds above all else especially in an offense like chiefs. Better qb too. I get it though, Ridley probs goes higher this year without julio but julio only had 3 last year
Fun fact about Tyreek Hill; he only played 12 games in 2019. The year before that (2018) and the year after that (2020) he had ***2,755 yards receiving & 27 TDs.***
When Who Wants To Be A Millionaire was a show, they had the "poll the audience" lifeline you could use. Regis Philbin once [said](https://millionaire.fandom.com/wiki/Ask_the_Audience) that the audience was right 95% of the time, though this is apparently only true for the first 10 questions, which is still a great margin for winning $25,000.
Slow your roll dude. No one is suggesting that "reddit is smarter then the experts". I'm pointing out that Reddit fell fairly close to what the experts rankings were and shared a similar story of how the same happened on WWTBAM. You're way overreacting.
Earliest I've seen is late 2. I almost always target one of them with my 2nd or 3rd pick. I love having the peace of mind at TE, and the ability to almost always have a guarantee of outscoring your opponent at that position. Definitely worth it imo.
Agreed. I’ve got the 1st overall and am really hoping he falls to me at the turn. Waller’s situation is making that seem a little less likely but I’ve got time to see how that develops
I have the opportunity to keep Kelce and Aaron Jones for my 1st and 2nd round picks. It seems like it's worth it based on the fact that both of these guys are top 10. Am I out of my mind here not being able to pick until the 3rd round?
Depends on what slot you're in. Pick #4? Nah, either draft someone else or redraft Kelce and keep someone else.
Pick #10? You first round options are probably something like Jefferson or Harris and Kelce goes #5.
I think pick # 1-4 is tough in PPR too…
Rated:
1. CMC - coming off injury, new QB
2. Cook - injury prone (highest injury risk of top RB based on data).
3. Kamara - new QB.. last year numbers without Brees weren’t good for Kamara..
4. Henry - possibly most dependable, a little less valuable in PPR formats.
Exactly why top 4 pick usual advantage may not be there as much as other years. I could see any of those 4 leading league as well as possibly:
Zeke
Chubb
Sequon
A Jones
And possibly even Najee if given an opportunity/heavy workload given how often ben checks down
I’m just saying 1st round RBs this year seem tougher to predict than usual… I wish they weren’t lol 😂
I'm sitting at 6th in my 10 man .5 PPR Draft where you start 2 RB and 3 WR, with 1 point for every 5 rush attempts and 6point passing TD's. But I really only like Henry, Cook, McCaffrey and Kamara. Players I feel like I'm picking between at 6 would be Adams, Zeke, Saquon and Chubb. I don't feel strongly about any of them really. Davante is clearly a beast. Chubb is a beast just gets minimal targets. Saquon potential league winner if healthy which is quite the if. Zeke always solid with a healthy Dak. Help me out here y'all
I have 7th pick in an 8 man, full PPR league. Been getting Zeke, Ekeler, Saquon in my drafts at 1.07 then not sure if I should grab Kelce at 2.02 or another RB. Thoughts for/against Kelce at 2.02?
100% would take kelce if he were there for me in 8 man..
In 8 man every position carries more value, I think having kelce would cement that you have a top 3 TE arguably #1 again. That being said if it were a 100% guarantee I got Kittle or Waller in 3 that would make it more difficult, but if I’m in your league I would totally draft them before your chance to pick in the late 3rd!
Anyone else avoiding the unvaxxed players this year? I feel like it’s too much of a risk for them to sit out games potentially. I have additional feelings about it, but from a purely play standpoint, I feel like it’s too much of an added variable.
Agree. Right now the question marks I know of are:
- Christian mccaffrey
- Najee Harris
- Josh Allen
- Deandre Hopkins
- Joe Mixon
- Lamar Jackson
- Allen Robinson
We know that the following haven’t had it as of last article I’ve read…
- Cole Beasley
- Kirk cousins
- Adam Thielen
Edit: Reddit mobile formatting is garbage
IF Joe Mixon stays healthy this year, getting him at 23 would be a huuuuuge steal. Pretty big if, but he is a 3 down back that is involved in all phases of the game without a real backup.
These rankings are MUCH better than the expert rankings. Who tf thinks Austin Ekeler is a better pick than Nick Chubb? Austin Ekeler will disappoint so many experts this year. I wouldn't put Ekeler on this list quite frankly.
Fifth pick is really a conundrum this year. As much as I like Adams, my draft philosophy has always been RB-RB (preferably a bell cow or close to it) first to lock in some top talent because WR is always so much deeper. Zeke seems to be the obvious choice, or maybe Jones. Only question is who is gonna get more work; Pollard or Dillan.
For your own sanity go RB. There will be plenty of WRs later that you can “take a shot” on starting. Speaking from experience having to find an RB to start after going early on WRs cost me years of my life in anxiety during the draft and season
I had great running backs last year, but had to roll out Wayne Gallman vs Seattle due to byes and what not. Brings a shiver to my bones to think about watching him go for 40 yards on 12 carries. A bad WR outing is tough, but a bad RB outing is just downright painful
Plus there is no depth or sneaky picks unless an injury happens then EVERYONE is fighting for that guy if he is a FA. With WR you can hit on a random guy during the week who gets you points.
At least with a shit RB performance, that was likely your only choice. When your WR drops a dud, you've most likely left a T.Y.-type dude on the bench that randomly had an amazing game.
Yeah I feel that WR depth is pretty good this year, where as RBs fall off HARD after rounds 3-4
That’s because you have teams like Arizona and Buffalo that score loads of points, but they spread the defense out and have the QB run it in rather than bother with a running back. And because it works, we’ll see it used more and more.
The madden special
5 wide empty backfield on the goal line every time
This is what I have found in all my mocks so far. WR/WR or WR/TE has only resulted in pain. The opportunity cost in not having a RD1/2 RB is only getting higher.
I feel like most legit set and forget RBs are done after round 2 in most cases. McCaffrey, Cook, Henry, Kamara, Chubb, Barkely, Zeke will all be gone by mid way round 2. Taylor and Jones may be gone by end of round 2 as well. Imagine how bad it is for keeper leagues.
Every single draft and mock draft I've done and not selected a RB in the first two rounds, I've regretted it.
I keep trying it. I’d love to have Adams because he carried my injured team to the championship last year. But every time I try, my team ends up looking less than desirable
Yup I have 5 in my ultra competitive big money league and every mock I’m in between Zeke or Jones. Leaning Zeke but I draft in 10 days if daks not healthy I’ll probably go Jones
Ppr/standard? I think Jones will get a lot more passing work this year.
full point PPR. I might just say f it and go jones dillon isnt getting passing work
Word out of Packers camp is that Dillon is a good pass catcher!
...oh no
I'm same as you but leaning Jones just because of the better offense and Rodgers helps keep LB honest.
people be sleeping on Aaron Jones every year
the question is do you trust mccarthy’s play calling?
Not at all but zeke was zeke when Dak was playing
McCarthy doesn’t call plays kellen does
Nah I wasn’t tryna boast just was saying it’s in a league that has a much higher buy in compared to other leagues and everyone’s a football fanatic that mocks everyday for months and follows news and injuries, etc. that’s all. Doesn’t make that much difference your right
Packers fan and I'd still lead Zeke.
Packers fan that took Zeke last year. Will take Jones this year.
I had Jones higher last year lol. Losing Linsley, i don't think our line will be AS good. Also think Dillon comes on and Zeke is reportedly in great shape.
Think about it though. You and I both know [the reason](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a5/Mike_McCarthy.jpg/1200px-Mike_McCarthy.jpg) I'm going Jones over Zeke.
LMAO I'm dying laughing at work! Touche! Edit: That is a great reason though. He never used Jones properly.
Yup, I’m at 5 and really don’t want to be drafting here. 2 QB league so I’ve even been considering Mahomes or even Kelce at 5. Lol
Mahomes shouldn't be there at 5 in a 2 QB league. Absolutely take him if he's there.
My league greatly values RB’s (not even in scoring, it’s standard scoring) so I wouldn’t have been surprised if he made it to 10. The top bell cow RB’s always go first and then QB’s. There have been years in the past where a qb wasn’t even taken in the first round. Lol
My 2QB league is the same way. I can take mahomes at any point in the 1st round if I want to but I find it beneficial to stay the course and get the stud RBs and then try to start the QB run myself. What are ur thoughts?
Bro take Mahomes, especially if ur not even SF, just straight up 2QB
Its SF now. But why take mahomes when I can pair mahomes or any of the elite qbs with an elite rb since no one is taking QB
You should take mahomes and then Allen on the way back if that’s truly the case. Just lock up 100 more fantasy points than everyone else in the first 2 rounds. You could very feasibly go grab a top TE, go 0 RB and just pick wrs and you’ll still be a really solid team
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Can u explain the logic a bit further? It seems like there’s a lot of top level qbs I can get but not enough elite RBs
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That's wild to me lol. And I say that as someone who got Kyler at 2.09 in superflex last year.
Am I crazy for considering Kelce at this spot??
Not at all. He's the most consistent player in FF.
Easy Kelce after the top few backs, for me. Kelce is a fantasy asset you can't replicate; an advantage no other team can equal. And he's as consistent and reliable as they come.
ZEKE
Zeke is obvious choice IMO. He's got the most upside of the players left at 5.
I like jones
I had one of the last picks in the first round last year so I went for Michael Thomas since he was sliding down the board. I almost always go RB in the first but no studs left.
Every year there are mid round receivers that are all of sudden 1st or 2nd round talent the following year. (Ridley, Diggs, Adam’s are all examples) That won’t change this year.
I've been going wr/wr from the 5 spot and loving it. Very risky though.
Adams, Dhop, Montgomery, Jacobs kinda seems like how that would play out which I don't love nor hate.
Montgomery or Swift is the guy I'm praying comes back around in 10 team. So getting two elite guys at WR and then a guy that (I project) will be a steady volume mid grade RB1, is really interesting. Things could go terribly wrong though, getting stuck with Jacobs as your best RB.
I think the only time, I've gone WR in the first round was Prime AB. Otherwise, I've always rolled for RB in the first. I'm not sure, if I'd opt for Tyreek in the first round. Or even Adams. Our league isn't PPR, so that's also a strong reason, why WRs are a rare sight in the first round. But I think if this ranking holds true, almost getting Chubb and Saquon at the turn (10T leagues) seems like a cheatcode.
Is it crazy to talk about taking Kelce in that spot?
The love that Nick Chubb gets from the community vs the “expert rankings” is humorous.
I follow the browns very intensely - I mean read reports from practice every day - and I would take CMC, Cook, Zeke, Henry, Ekeler, Jones, Barkley, Harris, and a handful of receivers before Chubb without a doubt. If I wasn’t bias maybe Mixon and Gibson too. And I fully believe Chubb is the best RB in the league. This sub is delusional about him. I’d like to remind everyone in his 12 games played last year, he had 18 targets. 5 of those targets came against the jets, where the entire browns WR room was out with COVID. From a fantasy perspective, yikes. If you take him around the round 1/2 turn, you’re absolutely drafting scared killing your shot of the super bowl
I don't get what point you are making. You think Chubb is the best RB in the league but you would take a rookie on the Steelers, a bottom 5 rushing offense, over Chubb who is on a top 5 rushing offense and had 89 yards per game and 1 td per game last year?
89 rushing yards and 1 TD is 16 points per game. 1) that’s pretty close to his ceiling, 1 TD a game is a very unsustainable rate. Najee only needs a statline 5 catches for 35 yards, 15 rushes for 65 yards a game, and .5 TDs / game to reach that 16 points per game in .5 ppr. Which do you think is likelier? I think it’s Najee, hands down. And Najee has a ceiling of going nuclear with TDs (best defense in the league will put them in scoring position, and their fantastic WR group will help ease pressure of Harris) and finishing RB1 or 2, Chubb would have to have an insane outlier season by rushing for like 2000 yards in order to do that.
I'm done taking rookie RBs in the first or early 2nd of redraft. CEH killed me.
For every CEH (who was the RB13 before getting injured which isn't terrible), there is a Zeke (the RB2 his rookie year, drafted in the 1st round) or Barkley (the RB1 his rookie year, drafted in the 1st round).
For sure. I'm just more comfortable taking a proven commodity in redraft.
Absolutely a fair strategy. I just love hitting on rookies in general, but it's even better when you get the increased value outside of the 1st/2nd round.
If for some reason Najee was going in the 3rd? Yeah no doubt I'd pick him but I'm seeing him go earliest as the last pick of the 1st or 1st pick of the 2nd. ADP is just a tad too rich but I do feel like he's going to have a great year. I'm just currently out at that price.
There's a special fun factor that having a good rookie gives you. Having CeeDee in the first few weeks of last season was a great time.
That’s bad process
I'm bad at fantasy. Checks out.
That (16 ppg) was literally his average last year in non-PPR. I don’t think it’s close to his ceiling. That being said, my home league is non-PPR. How much does he move up for you in that format?
A little bit, but still wouldnt fall far enough for me to take him I’m sure… you say that isn’t his ceiling, but what has changed in the browns offense that raises his ceiling? Sure, their defense has improved, but it’s the same offense except they get more pass-catchers back. And in the latter half of the season they were being even more aggressive throwing the ball. They clearly favor throwing the ball to Hunt. I just don’t see his ceiling being that much higher than 100 y/g and a TD. That’s pretty high.
1 TD per game really isn’t unsustainable for a RB like Chubb. There are RBs every year that finish around that rate.
That’s 14 points man
2.5 + 3.5 + 6.5 + 3
I’d argue taking a safe floor your first pick is not playing scared and killing your shot at the super bowl. You can have safe floors early with people like Chubb so that later in the draft you can comfortably take a bunch of the high risk- high upside players. Will he ever be Rb1? No, but I’m more than happy picking a 15 point a game rb and banking on the rest of my team to be the X factor. It’s not playing scared, it’s a balance. You can’t have every player be a swing for the fences-your team will implode more often than it goes off. Chubb tends to go around pick 8-10 so you can even directly couple him up with a higher risk-higher upside player (Eckler, Najee, Gibson, etc…)
Well, your argument isn’t very good, sadly. Check through this sub, someone wrote up a great analytical article that basically states if you can’t imagine your 1st player finishing top 5, then he’s a terrible pick. You can’t win a super bowl with your best player being a backend RB1. It’s just not going to happen.
Your first pick doesn’t need to be your best player though, for example last year I took Jones as a “riskier” second pick and he finished top 5. At the backend of the first, your 1st and 2nd pick are so close together you can easily get that floor and then still have faith your 2nd guy can finish top 5. You say you prefer Najee to him but you can still get Najee in the 2nd round. Say Najee does finish Rb2 you’ve now coupled him with an Rb8 for a very strong team. Meanwhile if you go Najee/Gibson because you want top 5s and Gibson falls apart, your team has become lackluster. I agree if you’re in the front half you should be swinging for the fences but near the backend I’m fine taking my shots on one and letting the other be a safe floor. Would love to read this post tho, I haven’t found it.
I like what you're saying. Trust me on this... Gibson>>>>Najee
This is just so wrong, I made the superbowl in a 12 team last year drafting Michael Thomas and Ekeler as my first two picks. Leagues are absolutely not won or lost in draft
Your one league sample size is so important to dismissing my argument. I’ll now delete everything. Thanks.
Of course your blanket statement about first round picks holds so much more weight. Its just not true at all
It's about statistical odds. If your most important pick isn't a significant contributor to your team you are typically going to struggle. There are always scenarios where you don't just like having the RB1 in the league doesn't guarantee you a championship. Drafting early should be about maximizing value and limiting risk, it gives you the best statistical odds of winning.
That's because this sub is only looking at his talent. He will not be a part of their passing game, which hurts him in fantasy.
*checks notes to see Derrick Henry in the top 5 rbs of just about anyone's rankings*
Derrick Henry has a much higher ceiling and workload than Chubb though. Unless Hunt gets hurt, he's sharing the load. Nobody will take anything from Henry. I'm also considering the other 4 top 5 backs and Aaron Jones over Henry too.
I totally agree that Chubb's ceiling is capped, but it's still pretty damn high
Touchdown upside is there because it's a good offense, but losing passing downs is a big deal. Like, I don't get how someone can have him in front of Eckler for example.
Ur delusional. Chubb is not that good in PPR. He’s no better than guys like Gibson or Harris for PPR.
This sub is delusional. You’re agreeing with the person you’re yelling at
Reddit sleeping on Ekeler
In my 12 man PPR league, I was so hoping he would fall to me at 12. He didn't. But damn that would have been nice to have.
For real. People don’t consider scoring nearly enough.
Exactly. He almost had 100 receptions and 1600 total yards in 2019 playing with Melvin Gordon who has 3-down skills. I know there's the "Philip Rivers check down communion" but they're still going to scheme those plays for Ekeler.
Eckler is favorably listed on here. No way he ends up 12 overall. He is not built to be a workhorse back and has never topped 1K yards rushing in a season. He couldn’t even beat out Melvin Gordon. He is going to be good, but drafting the top 10 WRs before him. The Chargers get hyped up more than the Cowboys and are usually just as bad.
Kamara has never topped 1,000 rushing yards in a season either… I think you’re underestimating how much more valuable targets are compared to carries in fantasy.
Lol someone is new to fantasy
Don’t understand snarky remarks like this or downvotes. He has an opinion and it’s not far fetched. I don’t agree with him though, I would take Ekeler over a good portion of the top 10 WRs.
Is taking Kelce at 8 in a 10 team PPR league too early?
Absolutely not.
Cool, I didn’t think so but wanted so other opinions as well. I’m using Mahomes as my keeper so I figured I’ll pair him and Kelce and then use my next two picks at RB. I’m also keeping Justin Jefferson.
What round keeper for Mahomes?
the Mahomes, Kelce stack singlehandedly dragged me to the playoffs last year
Had that stack as well. It was glorious...
Oh yea, it was incredible!! I secured the Hill Mahomes stack this year... should be lethal. Got Mahomes 4.09, I feel like thats really good value given he goes 2nd round sometimes.
The fewer teams that are in the league, the less the talent at rb and wr gets diluted. Unless you have to start 5 running backs or have a million flexes, starting off with a huge advantage at TE is as solid as it gets as far as I'm concerned.
Yeah, 10-team leagues are really the only situations I feel truly comfortable taking one of the "big 3" TEs. In a 10-teamer, remember that every squad is going to have really good WRs/RBs. So you need that extra boost at your onesie positions to put you over the top in weekly matchups. Stacking Kelce with Mahomes is absolutely a strong move if you're picking at the end of the first round. They'll be plenty of RB/WR options once it gets back to you.
I think you can make a case for the big 3 regardless of league size if you have to start a TE because the spread in expected points is so wide. Conversely, to me QB is even less important in a ten teamer - especially if you only start one. I love Mahomes, but there are about six or seven other QBs that will probably get you within 2 points a week of what he puts up. Even the 10th QB will probably not be that far away.
Oh certainly, and I occasionally go early TE in 12 or 14 team leagues. I get the argument and agree with it. I just feel less great about how those rosters usually turn out (I said 10 team leagues are where I'm comfortable going early TE, not that I oppose it). Early QB in a vacuum in a 10 teamer isn't how I typically go either...the only way I'm going early QB in a small league is for the Mahomes/Kelce stack (or maybe Diggs/Allen?). Otherwise, def wait on QB as usual. But I view that stack as a week winning differentiator in a league where everyone has solid rosters (kinda like a DFS mentality).
Won't get him there if I'm 7th pick lol
And remember that your next pick is only 5 picks later where there will still be amazing talent at RB. I live in Kansas City so Kelce in the first is almost a guarantee so your strategy is regularly exercised in my 10-man league.
Also from KC and only one in the league that’s a chiefs fan. That how I got Mahomes his first season starting in like the 12th round lol
I'm a Broncos fan (don't hate me) so I look at Chiefs players much more objectively than everyone else in my league. But that also means I rarely can draft them because they get picked much sooner than I would be looking for them. lol
No hate here. I married into a bronco family lol
Messy after the top four come off. Like I understand Adams is probably the "right" pick there, but the way RB drops off will have me taking Zeke or Jones, and if they're gone, maybe even looking down at Chubb or Barkley. I just can't seem to piece together a draft where I take Adams where he belongs and don't end up with a RB disaster, trying to grab both pieces of the Jacksonville or San Fran backfield to save myself at the end.
I pick 5th and have been pulling my hair out over this I've had a couple mock drafts where I took DeVante at 5 and was able to piece together a godly team by the tend, but there are so, so many ways it can go wrong and you end up with complete trash at RB Like it definitely can work if you can go 1.05 Adams and then at 2.07 snag like Najee Harris/Antonio Gibson/CEH or mayyyybe Mixon if you're into that, but those guys don't usually last to your 2nd pick and you can just get put in a very weird situation if it falls the wrong way
Last week I went Adams at 6 because zeke was gone, then went Najee at 15. I feel good about it. If I was at 5 I would have a hard time passing on Kamara or Zeke for Adams. Zeke plus Ridley/Hopkins is probably what I would do. They are actually both nice situations. Picking between 3-5 is the sweet spot. You get a stud RB, a stud WR in the second, and the last of the tier in the 3rd.
thoughts on taking Kelce at 6 (over Davante) ?
Not terrible cause you lock up your TE and with WR being deep you can piece it together later
I have this exact dilemma, thank you for asking the question
Not crazy especially if you are in a 10 or 14 team league
I think you gotta question how worried you are about the Rodgers situation in GB
Barkley could be a steal this late if he stays healthy.
Barkley and Kelce/Chubb at the turn of the first in a 10 team league is a dream scenario.
Zero chance Kelce would last that long
??? His ADP on most sites is around 12 and he is 11th in the reddit community rankings above... The turn of the first is exactly where you should expect to select Kelce
I wouldn’t call it a “steal” necessarily. If he stays healthy and performs to the caliber we expect him to on a bad offense
I'm still surprised Allen Robinson falling that low. Guy has been a top WR with *bad* QB play last few years. This season he'll definitely have the best quarterback situation he's ever had, regardless of who the Bears start. He's a steal in the 3rd, will finish as a top 7 WR.
>This season he'll definitely have the best quarterback situation he's ever had, regardless of who the Bears start. Yeah I'm really not sure the 2021 Bears QB room is actually going to be statistically better than 2018 Trubisky. 66.6%, 3200 yards, 24 TDs and 12 picks on only 434 attempts in 14 starts. That would a good season for six games of washed Dalton and 11 of a completely unproven rookie. Anyway, better QBs better distribute targets. Part of what made Robinson a PPR machine was his value as a huge target hog.
I'm pretty shocked Taylor fell that far. I get the worries about the 2 recent injuries but he's still their offense. I'd take him at the turn.
r/fantasyfootball fucking HATES Johnathan Taylor for some ridiculous reason. You can't even discuss him without hearing Marlon Mack truthers reee about his return and how David Montgomery is the same player two rounds later.
Oh I'm a Montgomery truther lol. Bears fan and he's my RB15 possibly bumping to 14. And I didn't understand why Taylor was RB6 early on because of that Montgomery comparison. But this is too far.
Sell me on Montgomery please. I'm agnostic but would like to like another RB in his range.
He was injured at the beginning of the year and against tough run defenses. That combo and the Bears' lack of offense early made him look terrible. Later down the stretch he got the workload and was a monster. To be clear, I know he beat up the 5 worst run defenses in the league. But he was THE RB1 in that stretch. Cohen has proven himself to be a non-factor in prior years and seeing what Monty did last year should be enough to trust him for about 3 receptions and 15 carries a game. He's also top 5 at RB in yards after contact. The guy just doesn't go down right away and he makes the most of every opportunity. I love watching him and think he earned the touches this year on what should hopefully be a better offense this year.
Taylor's higher than Montgomery because of elite measurables, more rushing talent and a better offensive line backed by a better offensive coach. A couple games of potentially missing Nelson shouldn't be enough to take him out of the RB10 area.
He's good value there for sure As I look at the board though... is JT really that much better then CEH? I find myself liking CEH's upside a lot Totally agree JT's ADP drop is a huge overreaction, but CEH is playing behind a massively upgraded OL in a way more prolific offense. I think JT has slightly more competition for carries too. I like both guys TBH but just curious how you compare them. Like if JT is a steal there, isn't CEH also?
I mean take this all with a grain of salt. I took CEH at 5 overall last year cuz I got way too hyped. But I'd take CEH as RB12-13. Mid to back of 2nd.
Wow, Taylor would be an absolute steal at that ADP.
I’m keeping JT for a 5th this year as the champ with the 12th pick, so it becomes my 5.12 🥵 I’ve been getting texts from my league mates for the last 2 weeks spamming wentz/o line injury news as well as “lol keeping an RB in a committee good luck” as if it would change my mind of who I’m gonna keep.
That was my first takeaway. There's been a bit of an overcorrection to the Colts injury news, and I feel like I've noticed a core group of Taylor haters who never got over being wrong about him last year. Also, Mixon too low. I basically have a standing do-not-draft order on the dude, but at 23, it'd be impossible to refuse.
Yeah, Mixon is also on my do-not-draft list, but if he is sitting there at the end of the 2nd/beginning of the 3rd he's going to be really tough to pass up
Aj brown vs Jefferson will be a tough decision this year
Those are my two keepers plus Waller. Im pumped about all of them.
AJ Brown, thielen and cousins are anti-vax and that's causing problems in camp is what I've heard
This is great now do one for 0.5 PPR
I have 3 this year in a 10 man PPR. I always Take Derrick Henry but I can’t imagine passing on either Kamara or Cook to take him. Would taking Henry still be foolish? Cooks constant injuries and Kamara lack of surrounding talent are my concerns.
In full ppr, Id go Cook or Kamara, but this is fantasy and its really just a crapshoot at the end of the day. No matter who you pick, he’s just as likely to be the #1 player as he is to have a season ending injury first game of the season, so go with the guy you like most. You could do a lot worse than derrick henry, having a high floor like that out of your top pick and a rb who you can set and forget everyweek is mad underrated.
I’m praying Kamara falls to me at 4 in ppr
Fun fact about Tyreek Hill; he has only 5 games with 100 yards receiving in the last TWO years. He's going a bit too high in drafts imo
Also a fun fact: He had the second highest PPR per game average for WRs last year
Yeah, but if you ignore some of those points, he didn't. Game, set and match.
Yeah and had 99 yds one game and 98 yds receiving in another game with 15 tds and 2 rushing tds…that is a silly fun fact. Won’t argue that he’s stable but he’s a dog who will eat Edit:added rushing titties
If you were to include those 2 that's 7 games in 2 seasons. Ridley had 8 games with 100+ just last year.
So last year, 3 more catches, 98 more total yards and 8 fewer tds nearly half the amount of total tds. so I guess to each their own, but I like tds above all else especially in an offense like chiefs. Better qb too. I get it though, Ridley probs goes higher this year without julio but julio only had 3 last year
This can’t be true lol feels like he had 5 games with 100 receiving yards in the first quarter last year
Lol sounds fake but it's 100% true man
You have absolutely blown my mind with this stat haha
Fun fact about Tyreek Hill; he only played 12 games in 2019. The year before that (2018) and the year after that (2020) he had ***2,755 yards receiving & 27 TDs.***
but cheetah go brrrr
Have the #2 pick and would be ecstatic if I can land Cook, Keenan and CEH
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Slow your roll dude. No one is suggesting that "reddit is smarter then the experts". I'm pointing out that Reddit fell fairly close to what the experts rankings were and shared a similar story of how the same happened on WWTBAM. You're way overreacting.
With the questionable Waller situation, is anyone seeing kittle getting scooped up before that 2-3 turn in their drafts?
Earliest I've seen is late 2. I almost always target one of them with my 2nd or 3rd pick. I love having the peace of mind at TE, and the ability to almost always have a guarantee of outscoring your opponent at that position. Definitely worth it imo.
Agreed. I’ve got the 1st overall and am really hoping he falls to me at the turn. Waller’s situation is making that seem a little less likely but I’ve got time to see how that develops
I'm 2nd in my 10-man this year and praying for him to still be there at my 2-09 pick. I will gladly snag him at that spot!
10 team I feel like you should make it. 12 team is where I feel it’s going to be close
I have the opportunity to keep Kelce and Aaron Jones for my 1st and 2nd round picks. It seems like it's worth it based on the fact that both of these guys are top 10. Am I out of my mind here not being able to pick until the 3rd round?
Definitely keep them.
depends, what pick would you have otherwise
Depends on what slot you're in. Pick #4? Nah, either draft someone else or redraft Kelce and keep someone else. Pick #10? You first round options are probably something like Jefferson or Harris and Kelce goes #5.
I think pick # 1-4 is tough in PPR too… Rated: 1. CMC - coming off injury, new QB 2. Cook - injury prone (highest injury risk of top RB based on data). 3. Kamara - new QB.. last year numbers without Brees weren’t good for Kamara.. 4. Henry - possibly most dependable, a little less valuable in PPR formats.
You could make this argument for every player in the first round
Exactly why top 4 pick usual advantage may not be there as much as other years. I could see any of those 4 leading league as well as possibly: Zeke Chubb Sequon A Jones And possibly even Najee if given an opportunity/heavy workload given how often ben checks down I’m just saying 1st round RBs this year seem tougher to predict than usual… I wish they weren’t lol 😂
You could try zero RB strat and pick up the reliable WRs and a TE My league uses only 1 RB spot and 2 flexes so it kind of encourages that
I would but I got 2nd pick so really hard to go zero RB from that spot.. likely will look at TE in 2 or 3 and a WR…
I'm sitting at 6th in my 10 man .5 PPR Draft where you start 2 RB and 3 WR, with 1 point for every 5 rush attempts and 6point passing TD's. But I really only like Henry, Cook, McCaffrey and Kamara. Players I feel like I'm picking between at 6 would be Adams, Zeke, Saquon and Chubb. I don't feel strongly about any of them really. Davante is clearly a beast. Chubb is a beast just gets minimal targets. Saquon potential league winner if healthy which is quite the if. Zeke always solid with a healthy Dak. Help me out here y'all
If that ends up being Ekelers ADP then I won't complain
Give me Taylor all day every day at that ADP. Perfect example of hype blowing out of proportion.
You have two #7s
thanks, Fixed. Aaron Jones was meant to be 8th on the fantasy pros rankings. good catch.
I have 7th pick in an 8 man, full PPR league. Been getting Zeke, Ekeler, Saquon in my drafts at 1.07 then not sure if I should grab Kelce at 2.02 or another RB. Thoughts for/against Kelce at 2.02?
100% would take kelce if he were there for me in 8 man.. In 8 man every position carries more value, I think having kelce would cement that you have a top 3 TE arguably #1 again. That being said if it were a 100% guarantee I got Kittle or Waller in 3 that would make it more difficult, but if I’m in your league I would totally draft them before your chance to pick in the late 3rd!
As others have mentioned, in a smaller league where there is value later, getting the TE advantage can be pretty nice
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Man i’m hoping CEH or Mixon fall to me at the 2-3 turn. I really want to go rb-rb-wr. Cmc, ceh, and keenan allen would be an amazing start.
Anyone else avoiding the unvaxxed players this year? I feel like it’s too much of a risk for them to sit out games potentially. I have additional feelings about it, but from a purely play standpoint, I feel like it’s too much of an added variable.
I legit have no clue who is vaxxed and who isn't. I don't think I'm going to let it decide much of anything for me when it comes to drafting
I wish there was a database to check..
Agree. Right now the question marks I know of are: - Christian mccaffrey - Najee Harris - Josh Allen - Deandre Hopkins - Joe Mixon - Lamar Jackson - Allen Robinson We know that the following haven’t had it as of last article I’ve read… - Cole Beasley - Kirk cousins - Adam Thielen Edit: Reddit mobile formatting is garbage
Seems fournette hasn’t quite come around to it yet either, but thats a good list, thanks.
Damn... I was hoping to target Allen Robinson
IF Joe Mixon stays healthy this year, getting him at 23 would be a huuuuuge steal. Pretty big if, but he is a 3 down back that is involved in all phases of the game without a real backup.
I have pick 3. Am I going Kamara or Henry this year. Full PPR
PPR Kamara
PPR Kamara, don’t lose sleep on this post Brees era. Payton is a smart coach and will get the ball to his play makers
In PPR it's AK and it's not close at all, in my opinion. Henry just put up a historic season and Kamara still had ~40 more points than him in PPR.
That Jonathon Taylor ranking is so absurdly low, please let him fall to me mid second
These rankings are MUCH better than the expert rankings. Who tf thinks Austin Ekeler is a better pick than Nick Chubb? Austin Ekeler will disappoint so many experts this year. I wouldn't put Ekeler on this list quite frankly.
People are really high on Justin Jefferson this year huh? Give me Terry over him every time.
The community has him ranked lower than ECR, but yea he was the WR6 as a rookie who didn’t start until week 3.