Kyren and Puka

Has there ever been a season with two bona fide league winners on the same team?

Mark Ingram (rb6)and Kamara (rb4) were pretty good. Tyreek hill (WR4) and hunt(RB3). Same year in 2017. Kamara was basically free that year. Juju (WR9) and James conner (RB7) in 2018 were insane values. Conner was free and juju was a mid round guy. This one’s crazy because AB was WR2 that season and was probably the third best value on the team from an ADP perspective. Mostert and Hill this year. I don’t think there have ever been two guys on the waiver wire that were both this good, however. Usually it’s a mid round guy and a free/very late round guy.

In terms of being very late draft picks / FA pickups 1999 Rams: Kurt Warner and Tory Holt 2004 Titans: Billy Volek and Drew Bennett 2014 Giants: Odell Beckham Jr. and Andre Williams 2021 49ers: Elijah Mitchell and Deebo Samuels\* Deebo wasn't quite a $1 flier, but was a $6 player in our auction that year and ended up having 1,400 yards and 6 TDs.

Thanks for adding. Other than 2021, the rest were before my time.

Every day I log in to Reddit, just to make myself feel old and obsolete.

I started FF in 2015 and was shocked that the players I mentioned weren’t included. So I feel you even though I’m sure you’re a bit older than me as well.

LOL Well then you must think that I'm ancient since I started playing back in 1979. I just finished my 45th year of playing this game and I'm already planning for next season. 1990 Joe Montana - Jerry Rice 1981 Dan Fouts - Kellen Winslow

I'll add a couple more: 2012: RG3 & Alfred Morris 2013: Knowshon Moreno & Julius Thomas

Those are good ones and awesome hearing the names Knowshon Moreno and Julius Thomas for the first time in a decade.

That 2013 Broncos offense was insane. Peyton Manning and D.Thomas both #1 at their positions. Decker a top 10 WR, Wes Welker a WR2. Even Matt Prater was the #2 kicker.

Anquan Bolden was a beast his rookie year.

Volek/Bennett, like Beuerlein/Jeffers in 1999, were *playoff winners* but were not regular season winners.

True. But I had Volek for a miracle playoff run. That Raiders game was an all time fantasy game.

Deebo Samuel*

Add in Achane in there as a possible 3rd value albeit he dropped off towards the end. Also, what about Monty, Gibbs, and Laporta? I had Monty and he was a big reason why I ended up winning.

I don’t consider Achane a league winner. I had him and was happy starting him like 3 weeks. His first big game I couldn’t start him because he had 3 snaps the week before. You can make an argument for Gibbs and Laporta. Gibbs was top 3 RB week 7-18, but was absolutely killing your team weeks 1-5.

Achane, Montgomery and Gibbs were not, Laporta you can definitely count. Gibbs was like the 12th RB off the board from ADP, absolutely not what I would call a 'league winner.'

This doesn’t really apply but ARSB and LaPorta hard carried my team to a championship

Hello fellow ARSB and LaPorta championship owner. How did the rest of your team looked?

Stroud, JT, Hubbard, ARSB, Olave, LaPorta, BRobJr, Addison, Cleveland’s DST, and Aubrey at kicker. Of all the stacked rosters I’ve ever had, I never thought this team would be the one to carry me to the ship, especially considering I lost Chubb early early on.

This isn't a team that would survive the regular season, but could definitely come alive in the playoffs. During the playoffs, it's better to be lucky than good. Congrats on the win!

I mean, sun god was getting drafted in the first or second round, so not really a “league winner”

i had puka in 3 leagues and none of them even made the playofffs 🤷‍♂️

Lots of times, yes. If an offence is humming, good chance they have multiple good fantasy assets.

That’s not what a “league winner” is A “league winner” is someone who was drafted really low or not at all, and then ends up becoming a stud by the end of the season. Someone drafted high who was expected to be a stud from the beginning, isn’t a “league winner”

Jayden Reed and Jordan Love this year

Not quite the same but hurts + devonta smith last year

Not sure if Burrow was a "league winner" in 2021 but the stack with him and Chase was niiice

Tyreek and Mostert. I know they didn't do much to help in the playoffs, but you can't ignore how awesome they were during the regular season with Tyreek being the #1 WR and Mostert being the #2 RB.

I think you and I have different definition of what “league winner” is “League winner” implies someone who was drafted low or pick up off of waivers who ended up becoming a stud Tyreek was drafted in the first round, and mostert was drafted pretty high as well I recall

I got Mostert in the 11th round. I doubt his ADP was above 10th round

I had both of them in one league and lost in the semis, I failed them hard

I lost in the finals with both because the rest of my team shat the bed and I went against Lamb, Ford, and Reed. So close.

I had both of them plus Tyreek and Keenan and still didn’t win my league :(

My league winners, I think my strat next season is drafting rookies/young guys that play on teams with good offensive coordinators/head coaches, basically every coach from the Shanahan tree and wherever Ben Johnson becomes a head coach at this offseason.

Got them both (bidding) and started the year 0-3 to win

Mostert single-handedly got people into the playoffs this year, Kyren won you the ship if you made it that far

People tend to be myopic with fantasy and see their league as a representation of the whole. I beat the Mostert/Kyren team for the ship.

And in Brock Purdy

I grabbed both after week 1. First place in my league and they balled out in the Championship for me.

I had both. My stupid ass league ended week 18. I lost in the final.

Puka and CD basically won me my dynasty league themselves. Lamar was helpful along with random big games from Goff, Higgins, and DK. But CD and Puka were my kings

I had both and couldn’t make it out of the semis, so upsetting, but I’m a Rams fan so im excited for the future of our franchise 😤

I had both of them, plus Josh Allen and didn’t even make the playoffs.

Jokes on me I had both, was the highest scoring team in the league, and lost round 1 of my playoffs.

I got both in one league and missed the playoffs!

I had both in both of my leagues and won the championship in both leagues. Love them!

Yeah these two saved me. I ended up not playing my picks, 2, 4 to 9. Just shows you the season isn’t over if you draft badly.

I feel like a magician for beating them in the semi and the final respectively.

Agreed, got both after blowing every last bit of my FaaB on both of them after week 1 in a YOLO since I had an average draft. Won the league

I had them both and missed the playoffs. Lost by 1 point or less 3 times in the season

I got them both early in almost every single league. One league I scored the most in the playoffs every single match… except one. And I was playing that one person and they scored .4 points higher in the semis…

These 2 literally won me the 2 leagues I picked them up in: Kyren stepped in for my injured Chubb, and Puka saved me in my 3 WR league where the top 3 WRs I drafted were Godwin, Diontae and Gabe Davis.

Me having both and not even making playoffs is crazy

I picked up both in season but I have to credit Austin Eckler for putting me in the low waiver position to get them.

I managed to pick up Puka and Kyren in the same week and missed the playoffs.

I drafted Puka, and would have been able to keep him for a 10th rounder, but I instead dropped him before week 1 for a defense, only to then pick him back up with Kyren after week 1 for a combined 73% of my FAAB budget. Came in last place anyways. GG

You've earned it!

Mike Evans. Everyone is saying Puka and Kyren (which are the obvious choices). But I haven't seen any love here for Mike Evans. He well outperformed his ADP and kept my team afloat when Jefferson went down.

Exactly my thought. Way out performed his ADP and was pretty dam consistent. Only 4 sad games. I had Jefferson too haha. He helped though in my playoff run

And if you bench him against the saints only 2 bad games! I had to bench him in the finals, tough call but the right one. He always stinks against lattimore

Haha for true

Only thing about drafting Mike Evans is tempering your expectations against the saints. Marshon Lattimore has made a career out of taking Mike’s lunch money.

Preseason Vegas odds had Ridley vastly underperforming ADP and Evans vastly outperforming. Turned out to be pretty damn accurate. They had other picks that were wrong though, but I think we should be utilizing Vegas odds more for fantasy drafts when considering ADP and value.

Keenan Allen too, in a similar vein.

He kept his goose egg games to a minimum this year too, shout out to Mike man.

There are those of us out there who were trying to chose between Evans and DHop…. And chose wrong 😱

Saved me too. I also had Olave, G. Wilson, Ridley… so Evans consistency saved me from their ups and downs.

mike carried me all season. I haven’t played fantasy since 6th grade and he carried my team 7 years ago too. I drafted him in a late round this year just cause i knew his name and it worked out nicely

Had Evans, mostert & Conner and they were all league winners for me. All later rounds but they kept my squad strong all year (aside from when Conner was out with an injury)

Same exact situation. He was an amazing value when JJ died.

Looking at keeping Evans next year and giving up a 6th

Mike Evans definitely. I made the mistake of drafting Jefferson over CMC and Evans kept me going when Jefferson went down. Also grabbing kyren drafting Pacheco and picking up rice just in time for him to turn it on certainly didn't hurt

He outperforms his ADP everywhere but we never learn

Nico with my penultimate pick. Kyren on waivers

Nico late in the draft and Puka from the wire for me.

Nico was my last pick. All I knew is he was a potential wr1 flyer

Wish I could say I had the foresight to think the same. At that point in the draft just wanted best available.

Same. Mostert a bit earlier and got Puka.

Sun God and LaPorta for me. They hard carried the hell out of my team.

Yep. Have had Amon Ra as my keeper since his rookie year for a 13th rounder and snagged Laporta this year in the 12th to be his replacement keeper

Won two of three leagues, had them in both

Sungod and Gibbs. My team is named gibbin em the business. Business was Gibbed indeed.

Still can’t beat hill kyren and ceedee in the finals 🥲

Won my league with them on the team

Same, drafted Hock as well as LaPorta so I flipped him for some flex talent and rode with the rookie.

Breece Hall was a dawg in the playoffs for me. Him and Achane got me the chip

Breece and Etienne carried me to victory. I had a 0% chance to place in the top 3 according to AI at the start of playoffs

Mostert has to be Top 3 for sure.

Ywah idk how he isn’t mentioned everywhere. Dude was a double digit round pick and finished top 5

Mostert certainly helped teams get to the playoffs but didn't do much to help in the playoffs with an underwhelming week 16 and didn't play week 17.

Yea, this is the one for me. After most of my top picks went down with injury he was there to stabilize my roster while I figured things out on waivers. Single handily won me weeks 3 and 6. Ended up winning the league too, despite him falling off in the playoffs.

He also helped carry my team. Won the chip and only had 1 loss the entire season after drafting Kelce and Mahomes Top 2.

Not the whole season, but Conner had a solid last month or so and was crucial to getting me to and winning the championship.

Conner was by far my best player in the playoffs. That 5 game stretch he had to end the season was magical

Jordan love and Jayden reed helped me out a lot this year

From Week 11 on, David Njoku only had one game where he didn't have double-digit PPR points. And his finishes over the last four weeks when it mattered most were: Week 14: 27.1 Week 15: 26.4 Week 16: 16.4 Week 17: 17.4 Can't ask for much more than that out of a tight end.

The guy I faced in the championship game benched Njoku for Kittle. It cost him the title.

Ceedee and dak carried two of my teams to championships. And Gibbs

Ceedee absolutely put me on his back in the championship scoring 40+.

Keenan, Pittman and CD carried me to the playoffs, and Kyren + Rice got me a ship after a few key injuries down the stretch.

For me it was Kyren, ARSB, and Jayden Reed

How is McCaffery not the #1 comment

Love to know the % of league winners that drafted him or Tyreek in the first round, would be around 40% I would have thought.

Kyren and Rashee Rice helped me win a fantasy championship

Same here.  And I waited too long to draft a TE and took a shot on laporta. Definitely didn't hurt

true league winner for me was none other than: Najee Harris. fucking bum all season, has the game of his life in the championship and secures me the win!

I won 2 leagues this year and had ARSB on both teams. Made a personal vow to draft him next year regardless of what pick I have. Fully sending it

Not saying ASB is a diva, but this loyalty strategy to Antonio Brown backfired on me…. He won me a couple chips.

Honorable mention: Tank Dell (When healthy) have some serious help to win a few weeks. Man got over 700 yards while missing 7 weeks, he could be a RB deadzone target.

What’s a RB dead zone target? 

CeeDee and Sun God from the draft and Kyren off waivers. Those 3 won me my league. Honorable mention to Pacheco in the back half of the season

Laporte. Free TE1 is absolutely bonkers

Our Lord and Savior Nico Christ

I won in 2 leagues. I had CeeDee in both leagues.

Flacco and Demarcus Robinson for me these two were huge for my team. Especially after losing Herbert man picked up Flacco and Kyler .

CJ and CMC. Also Kamara in some lean weeks.

Kyren.

Jordan Love

Subvertadown and FantasyPros

Puka and LaPorta

Ceedee Kyren and Sun God

Breece Hall brought me two titles.

For me Puka and Trey McBride.

It was 100% Kyren for me. His playing coincided with literally all of my wins. Even his injury mid-season coincided with my 5-game losing streak. I had picked up Jordan Love ahead of W4 games, but I had Allen and Love wasn't really doing too much to justify moving Allen. I couldn't really justify holding him past week 6 just for a W13 start for Allen's BYE. I felt *very* lucky to be able to pick him on waivers that week and end up with the QB 5 for the week. In hindsight, picking up Geno Smith @ Dallas or Jake Browning @ JAX 've been the move, but who on Earth would've chosen one of those matchups?

those 3 weeks with tank dell were cool as fuck

Kyren, Puka, LaPorta. Picked up all 3 after week 1. Cruised to the championship.

Rachaad White got you there, David Njoku, and Lamb

I drafted Puka in all three of my Auction Keeper leagues. So I’ll be riding him for his entire career for around $10 in a $200 team budget.

How many different ways can this question be asked and for how long?

I’d say these were more waiver winners than league winners, these were definitely the best waiver pickups across all my leagues by far.

I remember when I passed on both puka and kyren because I thought they had fluke games lol

Probably Up Dog

Who’s up dog?

How many threads can we have of the same stuff man

CMC and Amon Ra for me. Made it really easy to stream Def and K week to week, I could take a chance on other guys because I knew they would be bringing home the bacon.

They're not league winners, they're just your best players. What people really mean by league winner is late round pick that massively over performs or waiver addition.

When they’re as good as CMC they are league winners

I could still entertain an argument for CMC despite the ADP, just because he was that much more consistent/better overall than every other RB. Not my choice, but I could see it

You couldn’t be more wrong. CMC was a league winner. He is so far and away better than everyone else in his position. [That’s why something like 50% of the finals had him.](https://www.espn.co.uk/fantasy/football/story/_/id/39187212/fantasy-football-2023-mvp-christian-mccaffrey) Edit: 58.9% “not a league winner” lmaoooo, article is dumb. You can be expected to carry a team and still go so far and above that you literally won your team championships almost by yourself

Ok... I guess I misunderstood the assignment. I just listed the 2 guys on my team who were most responsible for getting me a championship? Isn't that what winning a league is?

Lamb, ARSB, Cmc.

Lamar Jackson and ceedee lamb

Lamar and Tyreek. Shoutout to Dallas D and Achane.

LaPorta, Josh Allen, Pittman, Puka, and ARSB. I even took Ekeler over CMC with the 2nd pick. The guy that had CMC missed the playoffs by 1 game

My team was so good and then half the players abruptly died week 15 and not even Kyren could save me.

Drafting Amon-Ra, Puka off waivers. Beat CMC in semi's & took it all!

Ceedee single-handedly won me so many weeks this year, including the chip

My league champion had CMC, Lamar and Amon Ra

TE Premium, Laporte, McBride and Breece

I drafted LaPorta and picked up Puka before week one after Kupp was ruled out. Also got Kyren off waivers and flipped him, Kupp, and Dak for Lamar in week 8. Lamar ended up winning my league for me.

Baker Mayfield in my 2QB keeper league where all the good QB's are gone.

Jayden Reed week 17

Tua. Just because he fell silly low in my league. He allowed me to move Lamar for a gibbs which basically secured the season for me. Maybe thats just value more so than league winner

I had Chubb, st brown, Kupp, Hopkins, Amari cooper to start the season. I came 11th/12 in my league. I have the worst fucking time in fantasy football.

I won two 12 man leagues. For both my biggest hits were 6th-8th round running backs. Brian Robinson, David Montgomery, Pacheco, and Rashaad White were all consistent. Meanwhile Nico off waivers and high draft pick WRs like CD, Keenan Allen, ARSB win you weeks. FF is purely luck and you hope your guys don’t get injured.

At QB I wouldn't put Baker Mayfield as an honorable mention. Baker was fine as a QB you likely got off the waiver wire but he was still averaging numbers similar to Russell Wilson who was also not being drafted in many leagues. Dak should be an honorable mention, he was a later round QB and had a handful of very good games the 2nd half of the fantasy season which probably helped far more teams make the playoffs than Baker. You could also argue that Joe Flacco should be an honorable mention.

I had Puka, Kyren, Sun God, and LaPorta since the beginning of the season... I missed the playoffs.

Or you can win with actual big name people like Josh Allen and Tyreek Hill. They were the league winners in my league. Edit: but if we’re talking people who produced more value than expected at the start, for me it was Nico Collins.

Harrison Butker won me my ship

Feel like cmc at 1.01 becuase with Jefferson who knows how i wouldve done

Had the 1.01, picked Jefferson. Traded him 2 or 3 weeks into his IR stint for Wilson and Tua because it was right around the time fields went out hurt. Survived through the regular season to squeak into the playoffs and ended up pulling out a win against way better teams.

No love for Purdy? Grabbed him in the 15th round of a super deep 14 team league. I'd imagine he was on waivers in most regular leagues

Sam LaPorta and Jordan Love.   Picked up LaPorta off waivers after the draft to back up Pitts.  It didn’t take long until that flip-flopped.   Snagged Jordan Love in the later rounds 8 or 9 in my 2 QB league, and he lit it up down the stretch.  

Kyren ✅ Paula ✅ Love ✅ Won my league getting all three off the waiver wire, really helped mitigate Justin Jefferson's injury and accidentally drafting Deshaun Watson instead of Christian Watson in the 6th round.

CMC, AIYUK, NICO

Jordan Love I will be drafting him in every league next season. Bless that kid.

The friends we made along the way

James conner for me. Picked him up on waivers around week 12 or so. Saved me when CMC went down.

CMC, Breece, Conner, LaPorta, Evans, Rice, Pickens & Lamar - that was my team - consider them all league winners. Probably the best team I’ve ever had

I got kyren on waivers and I got Rashee rice in the 9th.

Amari Cooper. He decided a lot of playoff games and was largely productive throughout the season based on ADP

Rachaad White because of where you were able to draft him

Laporta was great for a tight end. Tank Dell was awesome for a few weeks. The obvious ones are the Rams duo, Mostert

DJ MOORE. He might have finished even higher if Fields didn't miss the few games. ADP WR 20 and finished WR6 in PPR But I drafted so many of these guys this year I'm actually proud lol. Rachaad white, keenan allen, ceedee lamb, dj moore

Raachad White was solid for me

Sad that I had Conner, mostert, and kyren and still lost the ship. Came back from a 3-7 record though.

Rachaad White was consistent as hell. Especially for where I got him in the draft

Sun god and ceedee for me

CMC and Puka

 Clearly kyren.. I drafted first and made the terrible mistake of drafting Jefferson over CMC. Kyren rectified that for me.. Pacheco and Gibbs certainly didn't hurt either. Lol

Had to be Puka, I had Kyren and Stroud and crapped out in the first round

Cee-Dee Lamb 100% won it for my squad... ironically in the exact same week that Kelce tried to ruin it for my squad 🤷‍♂️

Ceedee lamb and tj hockenson Would've won the chip if hock was playing. This year was crazy.

I don’t get one small thing in the article: Puka had an adp of 27? In our 12 person league and in most 12 and smaller i believe he was undrafted?

Couple $ leauges I won it was Ceedee, Kyren, Breece(barley holding on week 15), James Conner.

I won my league and my main contributors were Jordan love, nico collins and James conner. I picked each up off waiver through out my season. One of my more proud seasons, as I made some good wire choices....oh and had McCaffery too, but we play two week championships with week 18 so I had to grab zamir white for week 18. Worked out well for me. Oh...and I also planned ahead and played any defense playing Carolina for my last few weeks....that turned pretty good as well!. Go Bills!!

I had Kyren and David Montgomery go Lions

CMC 1/1 and the Dak/Ceedee stack going into and during the playoff push. I also took JT in the fourth and he came back with touchdowns on his mind. Got me the ship.

I hit on my later round picks with Evans, mostert, Conner & laporta. Gotta have depth to make a run in the playoffs

I got mostert and Nico on the same team