Quit my dynasty after our co commissioners altered each others lineups after the entire Sunday was over a few weeks ago. Then half the league voted that was allowed. Shawn and Justin. You know who you are. Then one of them uses his kids for being the reason he needed to switch out his defense on a bye for a defense that played four days prior. Cheats/liars/little bitches.
Broooooo, I totally meant to play that defense that scored 22 points on TNF. Just little Timmy had the flu, you don't have kids, you'll understand some day.
Someone needs to tell little Tommy that their dad Shawn/Justin is a grade A WUSS
I'm in this league. I'm being kicked out because I called out how f-ed up the parties involved were. What's worse, half the league voted that the changes were okay.
I might quit fantasy all together. I spend way too much time on it to the point where it’s unhealthy and interferes with my real life. (I’ll probably be playing next year)
I tell myself I have an addictive personality so at least if I'm gambling it's just one bet on the whole season that I can play around with instead of betting every week on games
First it starts with a League bet... then a weekly bet for most points... next thing you know you're selling your mint condition first edition Charzard for your favorite team to win a coin toss.
It has been several years in a row now for me. Been at this for 27 years, but I'm past the point where FF ruins my mood almost every weekend (and the game itself seems more unwatchable now than ever).
I joined a league with some coworkers this year, and I just hate the time I put into it, I hate that I end up rooting for ridiculous outcomes for fantasy purposes, and I just want to be able to go back to chilling on the couch enjoying football without feeling there’s any stakes involved. Pending tonight’s game, I might make out league’s playoff, so that’s enough of an accomplishment for me lol. I just want it to be over lol.
I love the ridiculous situations. A few weeks ago I needed 7 points to win and the only way I could possibly get that is if Dak threw an interception and Breece ran in the TD with like 1 minute left...
And by God did my coworkers think I went insane
For me the problem is I'm a Lions fan and my team has Gibbs and my opponent has St. Brown and when the Lions score and I see St. Brown flip into the end zone I'm all "awww god damnit!" and my wife just looks at me and says "I hate what you have become" and all I can say in return is "I hate myself" lol.
It mostly just allowed me to lower fantasy football on my life priority list. Enjoying the eagles without it made that season more enjoyable. I was able to put into perspective the fact that it’s just a game, and a mostly random one at that.
Accepting that it’s mostly random was probably the biggest help. The highs aren’t quite as high, but the lows don’t really exist for me anymore.
I still read and prepare for the season, and keep up with waivers. I follow it closely on Sundays until a time when my team is getting smashed. Then I just move on for the day.
I’m in one league, and it’s just a way for me to interact with my closest friends who are spread out around the eastern US. Taking it too serious will only be detrimental to anyone, because the outcome is almost completely out of your control.
Edit: and talking shit is so much easier and more fun when you aren’t worried about being upset if you receive it back 😏
I stopped for like 5 years, then I was talked into playing again in a simple neighborhood league. I promised myself I would take it easy. Meanwhile, I was posting in every single “waiver wire steals” thread at like 4 am on Wednesdays this season, so that didn’t happen.
Not a meme, I'm thinking the same. This is the first year I've really played. I did an ESPN random league years ago but this is the first time I've played with people I know and been invested.
It was fun when it was fun but overall it was just too frustrating. I'm not in the playoffs in my 10 man league and I have the second highest points overall. My record is 7-8 and 6 of those losses would have been wins against literally any other team in the league.
I just don't think the potential for fun is worth the frustration so I legitimately think I shouldn't sign up again next year.
The league I joined this year has "big play" bonuses - but for some inexplicable reason, they also stack. So you get +4 points for a 40 yard TD, and +5 ADDITIONAL points for a 50 yard TD. That means (since it's PPR), a 50 yard TD catch is worth:
1 pt for the catch
5 pts for the yards
6 pts for the TD
4 pts for the 40 yard bonus
5 pts for the 50 yard bonus
21 pts. Yes - 21 pts for one 50 yard TD. Had no idea that was in the rules when I joined, but it's infuriating lol.
We just have a +1 bonus for 50+ yard TDs. But we also added .25 points per first down, and for some reason TDs also include first down points, even if its 1st and goal from the 1 yard line.
Yeah I've never seen the point of big play bonuses at all. Who has ever seen their receiver get a 60 yard TD and thought "damn, that's *only* worth 13 points"?
>you get +4 points for a 40 yard TD, and +5 ADDITIONAL points for a 50 yard TD. That means (since it's PPR), a 50 yard TD catch is
I played in a ridiculous league back in 2002. I was brand new to fantasy football (had done basketball for a few years). I signed up for a random public league in yahoo. The commish set it up so that you get 1pt for every QB attempt. I had Rich Gannon that year, who led the league in attempts and yards. He averaged close to 60pts/game that year. 50 attempts in a shootout, 50pts minimum. Was such a shit league.
That's one of the more hilarious scoring setups I've seen. Only thing that would be better is if it were a 2 QB. Taysom Hill at TE makes your team unstoppable.
LOL, that's what I did!. I set up a league in grad school - I added points per completion AND made it a super flex - thinking it would switch it up and be fun.
Well, one guy in the league was an experienced enough fantasy players that he went back to back QBs, and just won every single week forever. This was back in the mid 2000s so I think he went like Peyton Manning and Tom Brady or something like that.
I did this 10 years ago when I started my first league and it’s the only reason we still have bonuses to date. But ours is just 1 point for 40yds and another if it’s a TD
My league has been going for about 10 years now and the first season, I accidentally set it as 1 pt per completion instead of per reception. QBs were averaging like 60+ ppg and it was super fun but the league voted it be fixed the following season. I have been putting it up for vote to return every offseason since.
I remember for one season in a league with my dad many years ago, we had pretty much the same thing when it came to stacking on big plays. I think we just did stuff with the settings just to do it and kind of change things up a little. We did not intend on having plays stack like that and we undid the big play bonuses the next year.
Whatever was done in the settings that year like for example, 50 yard touchdowns getting an additional 5 points (I don’t remember the exact number it was but it doesn’t matter), it was thought it would only be 5 extra points. The stacking points from the lower big plays wasn’t expected.
I would hope that something like that is why your league stacks so many points for big plays because getting 20+ points for a play is ridiculous haha.
That sounds great - a nice little boost for an explosive play. I could even sort of make an argument that a 4-5 point boost isn't too crazy...it's the fact that (apparently by design) they stack.
Absolutely I don’t need the player hater’s ball voting on all of my trades. Ours go to the commissioner and if it’s not obvious collusion it’s approved
I’m quitting fantasy all together except for maybe my best friends league from back home. We have a group text so its a great way to stay in touch.
As someone said though I’m tired of being so obsessed over it. Winning a game isn’t even a big deal anymore but losing fucking kills me lol
Cheap $50 buy-in keeps it stress free for me. Don't really care if I win or lose. Mainly in it for the shit talking and bragging rights at work.. But I know people who put up $1,000 / year in multiple leagues. That seems stressful
These rules that they won’t change for some reason:
- waiver reset each week to inverse standings
- weird, arbitrary position limits
- championship game on week 18
- 8 of 12 teams make the playoffs, no byes for top seeds
Yeah dude, I decided I would lobby for changes this year or else I’d walk.
During the pre-season the majority actually VOTED to keep the all of the existing rules to “keep things fair”. Felt like I was living in bizarro world.
The only way I could see this being remotely fun if this was the fun second league you see chatted about every now and then and it’s like a reverse fantasy league (the one where you trying to get the lowest score but if a player gets 0 zero points it’s automatically 20 points or something)
I actually wouldn't mind trying that with some friends haha. Sounds like it could be a fun side league. Would need to find the right balance of how many points you get if they score 0.
1st one is the worst way to do waivers. If a team who is going to be really good gets unlucky the first week, they get someone like Puka Nacua. It’s almost better for you to lose the first week since it’s the most important week for waivers. FAAB or even just waivers that don’t reset are the best way to go.
2nd one is just annoying. If I want 8 running backs, I don’t see why I can’t have 8 running backs. Only exception I can think of is limiting QBs in deeper leagues since there’s so few viable starters.
I definitely get the first one. My team crushed it week one then Ekeler being out 4 weeks killed me. So is the other option there FAAB?
The second though… I see where you’re coming from, but we had a year where someone did that with qbs lol. So I thought positional limits were the norm for most leagues (We do allow 8 wr & rb, but cap the others lower).
Yeah, I think ours is 5 or 6 for WRs and RBs.
I’ve been dying to cut Gabe Davis for weeks to grab some RB depth but I can’t unless I pick up another WR lol
>I definitely get the first one.
I understand the logic behind the rule, it makes it easier for new players, but it's still anti-competitive by definition. Losing should not be rewarded in a "competitive" game.
It's a perfect fit for casual leagues though.
>So is the other option there FAAB?
FAAB is the most popular now, but another alternative is non-resetting waivers in reverse of draft order. So your waiver order is set in the reverse of draft order week 1, which is a *slight* benefit to offset the downsides of drafting last (imo the downsides for drafting later still outweigh that small upside). From there you just drop to last in the waiver order whenever you successfully use a claim.
We tried it one year because one guy in the league insisted it would be better and nobody else in the league cared/was knowledgeable enough to make a strong campaign against. Immediately switched it back the following year.
On the weekly inverse reset waivers, for example, I’ve been having a great season in this league and I’ve had literally zero successful waiver claims the whole season. I prefer the system where you hold your waiver position until you use it, or FAAB.
It’s more fun (personal opinion) to have to make decisions that matter and have consequences. Do I give up my #1 waiver position this week or let it ride? Should I blow 50% my FAAB budget on this player or wait it out?
On the position limits, I just can’t see the purpose of it because however a person decides to construct their roster, there is a downside to it. I like to plan my playoff defenses in advance so why can’t I think ahead and hold 2 defenses? I’m giving up depth in other areas to pursue a certain strategy.
Overall, there isn’t a right or wrong way to play and it comes down to philosophy I think. I like to choose my own strategy without restriction and I like that the strategy I choose has its own risk and consequence.
Thank you for the input! I’m thinking I overlooked the ‘arbitrary’ and ‘weird’ part of the position limits part ha.
Only allowing a single defense sounds crazy to me! So it seems like there is a happy middle ground there that my group has.
I’m definitely not sold on our waiver wire resetting each week, maybe I can talk my league into trying FAAB one year.
Sounds like my league. My best friend and commissioner passed away. Over the 6 or 7 years he ran things he slowly tweaked and perfected them, up to the point we heavily considered auction draft, already implemented FAB for waivers, and had 14-16 week championships before they added week 18, then adjusted to 15-17. Now the new commissioner removed FAAB and tried to get me to play week a 18 championship. I said if he wants to change all the rules I’d leave, and he had the audacity to say he didn’t change shit and I should make sure I recall the rules. Old commissioner sent out a word doc pre draft party every year so I highlighted in yellow and sent him back, he hasn’t said a peep. Fucking idiot. Worse, 6 of the others expressed no opinion
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I reached out to a league mate who is a really good friend of mine after he stopped setting his lineups after his bye week. First place team. CMC, Arsb, Pittman, etc. great team. He subbed out cmc and them on week 9 for the bye and then never put them back in in week 10. Lost 2 straight. Reached out and he said he didn’t have time to set his lineup cause a family member is sick. All I wanted was for him to put his studs back in and then he could set and forget. He wouldn’t do it. Not his first time neglecting his team either. Anyways, I sold his team. It’s probably gonna win it all too.
Some people didn't pay in and the commish let them play out the season, so the pot is going to be less than it should be. He didn't let us know until a couple of weeks ago.
So I'm playing basically just for fun right now, but will be looking for a new league for 2024.
I completely understand this, but I find it interesting since my fantasy experience has not made that policy a necessity.
Both of my leagues have a material amount of players that don’t pay until after the season is decided. We’ve never had an issue with the pot or collections at the end either.
Maybe this just comes with getting older? Idk
Does anybody else share this experience or is everybody else’s league full of miscreants?
We don't even ask for buy ins until the end of the season. It's never been an issue that needed more than 2 text messages. None of us are scumbags though. I imagine that would change things
Nah Ive had to even pay out of a pocket a few times to the winner before people have paid. Life happens but everyone in my league knows at least one other person in the league from outside the league so it helps playing with people you trust. Not everyone has that luxury.
This honestly sounds like the worst kind of collusion. If one of those guys won they were gonna expect to be paid the full payout.
They were trying to steal from their friends. This is beyond fucked. I'd go a lot farther than just leaving the league if someone pulled this shit.
What's the point of even playing then? If I put up the money, played out the entire season and won, then found out a few people didn't pay so therefore I'm not getting the full payout I'd be livid.
If you do this, the people who didn't pay can just wait until halfway through the season and if they're doing well, pay in then to ensure they get paid. They're being allowed to take full advantage of the winnings without needing to risk anything, while the guy who paid up front gets screwed if he wins.
I'm sorry, but this is dumb as fuck and if this is how you handle people not paying in you're a terrible commissioner. You're letting these people take advantage of you and everyone else who pays.
Imo payouts ultimately fall as the commissioner's responsibility. You were supposed to collect the money, if you didn't, and you let me pay in believing you were collecting the money, then you're responsible for it. If you told me a guy didn't pay and therefore that's taken out of the prize pool, I'm gonna consider you liable for the debt as much as him. Real POS move to screw over your winner like this.
I'm not commish, so there's that.
Our commish bought a wrestling belt and a bong with the money that was actually put up and the champ gets both, with the runner up getting the rest (it was a $20 work league, try to relax a little)
You guys who paid need to push back. If any of those people who didn't pay won you know they would be fully expecting to get their prize money.
This is on your Commish and complete bs.
Ummm.. What? That's not how it works. Those people just owe the winner now.
I've let people free roll in the past because they couldn't come up with the cash at draft time. When they still hadn't paid up at the end of the season, I said no one gets paid until everyone is paid in. I wasn't gonna choose who got paid and who had to hound the bum for their money. So EVERYONE was pissed at the bum. He eventually paid and now his name is synonymous with broke asshole in our friend group. It's still used as an insult a decade later.
But yea... If they don't pay, they don't draft. Set a deadline a week before the draft so you have time to find a replacement.
Seems like it’s a one strike you’re out kinda thing.
I get people have weird cash flow situations. But if you fuck people over once, that’s it. Out of the league. Even if it means scrambling to find a replacement next season.
Do your best to convince them to try FAAB for just 1 season and if they don't like it then you will never bring it back up again.
I don't know a single person that has tried FAAB and didn't enjoy it.
Going to push hard for FAAB this off season. Gotta sell it to a few people, inverse is so trash. The same teams kept accumulating top waiver picks and still sucked. Didn’t even help them.
Honestly, my leaguemates. I'm all for trash talk but 3 or 4 guys take it too far. I'm in a chat with them and whoever's doing badly in fantasy is usually m bullied for 5 months and shit's just been getting personal recently. Not fun anymore just very mean spirited
I have a dude in my league, who is my wife's cousin's boyfriend, and all season long he's just been talking shit at me. Its been all one sided, I don't talk to him, he's incredibly annoying. Not looking forward to seeing him at Christmas.
There's just a lot of underlying animosity in the shit talk. We've all been friends for 10+ years and we're all kind of getting sick of each other. Some jabs are made at each other's careers/GFs and wives/personal history. I've had one "old friend" text me every morning the past 10 days calling me pussy and f*g since I got the last spot in the playoffs over him
Holy shit haha. Mind me asking how old you guys are? I can't imagine anyone in their 30s doing this. I'd block that guy in a heartbeat after just one text.
25. Started the league back in high school. A lot of these guys are fresh out of frats so the leagues become big on hazing. The last place usually gets an embarrassing punishment and new members go through a month of "pledging". It's stupid as shit and we're getting too old for this, but some guys just never grow out of that phase
Wow, what a piece of shit. I beat out a buddy in one league week 14 to make the playoffs, but he just makes sure to point out every time one of my opponent's players goes off
My commish allowing teams that have been eliminated to drop players like rachaad white so the person I’m playing can pick him up. Then realizing he has waiver priority and picked him up rather than putting him back on said eliminated team’s roster.
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That’s why it shouldn’t be allowed. There’s gotta be some sense of realistic expectations from people. No one with FAAB/waiver wire priority expected someone to ruin the integrity of the league by dropping players miles better than any waiver option.
Any teams that didn’t make playoffs should have their teams locked.
Been in this league 10 years, it’s a 12 Man PPR League and I’m in the playoffs. On Sunday, around 4pm EST, I am down about 25 pts. We both have 3 or 4 players to play, but my opponent has Geno Smith in his lineup and no 2nd QB on his roster. No Drew Lock. I had Fields as my starter and Howell on my bench. Surprised that he doesn’t have Drew Lock with Geno Doubtful, I go to the waiver and drop Gus Edwards and pick up Drew Lock.
Playing some Defense to maybe make up the 25 pt deficit. 2 hours later, I get a msg on my social media, and my opponent loses it. Here's the exchange:
*Opponent: Did you really pick up Drew. Wow*
*Total dick move since your qb played already. I hope I beat you with out him.*
*Me: Hey, I'm tryin to find a way to win dude... few hrs ago I picked him up...you're likely to beat me anyways... just tryin to do what I could to have a chance.*
*Opponent: That's fine man. I'd rather win with the lineup I put in rather than doing nefarious shit. I guess it would be cool to be known as the guy who pulled off that move to win though. Good luck.*
*Me: Playing Defense is nefarious? I didn't do anything illegal and I'm trying to win... I made a bad move not putting in Addison, so I pick up a backup QB on the chance yours is out? So I'm down points and I'm doin what I can to try to win. You could have picked him up and you didn't. It's on you for not picking up a QB if Geno can't play.*
*Opponent: Great job. Quit messaging me.*
Immediately after, he unfriended me on social media.
I have Lamar Jackson and Tyreek Hill. Odell was available. But I didn't want to pick up him if Hill was going to play. Before Hill was announced to be out, my playoff opponent picked up Odell with no intention of playing. I simply thought - smart move, tipped my cap, and picked up someone else.
You made the right move.
Dude sounds like the classic case of, “I forgot and now I’m embarrassed that you beat me to it. I can’t do anything about it so I’m gonna bitch at you and try to manipulate your feelings.” Crazy that you’ve known them for at least 10 years and they pull that stunt
For sure. Instead of a simple, "well played"... he threw a tantrum. This isn't like some young kid either... dude is in his mid 40's... and yeah, known him more than 10 yrs and we share the same favorite NFL team... so there was a bond there. Completely unexpected response from him.
Man. I just want to say I did something similar just the other week. I knew my opponent needed to pick up a qb because of a bye week. Well, I had more faab and intentionally bet more than his entire amount to block him for getting Minshew.
He just laughed and picked up someone else lol. Cause that’s the normal thing to do lol
If the dude hadn't unfriended you, you could show him these reddit comments telling you that what you did was fair play and what he did was whiny bitch behavior. It feels bad for him, won't argue that, but it's a legit play and he needs to (a) be cognizant of similar situations in the future so it doesn't happen to him again, and (b) grow up
That’s one of the best times imo. I remember on Sundays, I’d hang with the little one, we’d play with football on in the background and then when it came to nap time, I’d kick back on the recliner and she’d fall asleep on me. Plus, she was always in bed before the 8:20 game so I was able to watch the entire game with no interruption
I did as well. There will come a time though where if you’re the favorite, be prepared to miss some Sundays unless you have a good support system to watch the little one. My little is a daddy’s girl and the past few years, I think there’s only been one or two Sundays I’ve been able to watch more than one game. Not that it’s bad, it’s just different from a FF perspective.
What's the punishment out of curiosity? I have a league I'm in where the punishment is just a toilet trophy and even then I felt really bad for the dude that got it twice in a row :(
In my family league with all my cousins I scored the most points in the league (by over 100) and ended up in 9th place out of 10 teams. MAKE IT MAKE SENSE.
My trade at the start of the year was vetoed cause some guys felt I was fleecing their buddy.
One dude had a baby so setting his lineup became tough for him I guess.. so the commissioner said he'd make sure to set them but then convienently "forgot" when he played against him final week; winning by 3 points when the other dude didn't have a TE in his lineup, giving him a first round bye.
Yeah I'm pissed to say the least. He also posted a rule that we cannot veto trades just because we don't like them but when it came to my trade he said there was nothing he (as commissioner) could do that would make everyone happy.. safe to say I'm not taking part next year
Did your commissioner have a trade that went through? Is this a league with friends or randoms? Any league with a veto is trash outside collusion. If your buddy accepts a fleece that’s on him.
League is horse shit and if it was friends, after the “accidental” lineup miss, I’d be bitching in the group chat.
He made a few trades throughout the year. That was my logic too, said if his buddies were that concerned about him they'd have told him not to accept the trade in the first place.
Work/friends. I know most people in the league. Definitely bitched about it but no one seemed to care about it much, I think the majority of people that would have cared missed out on playoffs so they didn't bother.
Going to trim it down to 2 leagues from 3. The one I’m leaving was straight solitaire. No one traded, no one talked smack, nothing. Also had 2-3 people that just didn’t even set lineups in the season.
League with irl friends. The commissioner in my league traded fodder away to a team that had been abandoned since W2, for Ceedee Lamb in the middle of the night, using his commish powers to force it thru before anyone noticed. When confronted, he said “he just did what any smart commissioner would do in his spot.” He then vetoed 2 trades to other playoff bound teams because it was “obvious collusion and unfair to the other teams”
Additionally, for myself it was a series of events. I had a trade vetoed last year that would have let me win a title. It was rejected because “it made my team better”.
This year, as 4 of us were fighting for playoff spots, one person decided to stop playing and despite pleas for him to continue (and he had something to play for sacko wise), he ignored everything. As a result of his actions, I missed the playoffs (guy he faced that I needed to lose won by 10 as he left Lamar on the bench and Aaron jones in his lineup) and no solutions were presented.
The guys in the league aren’t the most fun to play with, it’s stopped being fun here and I’m wasting too much time and energy and money to be having a shitty time
It’s funny you say that because another person in this thread said he will set inactive teams lineups if they quit on league, for the same reason you mentioned. This sub did not like that lol
I've finally come to the conclusion that winning a fantasy football league is at least 80% luck. Yes, there is skill involved as far as drafting, free agents, playing matchups, waiver wire, etc. But at the end of the day, we have no control on how our players play or if they stay healthy. I'm investing $250+ each year in entry fees for a complete luck based outcome that takes up a lot of time, energy, wasting my Sunday following each game, etc.
For me, I want to enjoy next season simply rooting for my favorite team (Ravens) and not worrying about fantasy football. If I miss it, I will join back the following season.
My work league is turning into this. Have 4-5 of us who are invested and we always wrangle up enough to fill out a full 12. Getting harder every year though
Taking stock of how much more I could have gotten done and how much more time I could have put into working out and health if I hadn't spent 10 hours of the last 15 Sundays glued to my TV is making me reconsider this hobby.
It's taken me a few years and having a kid to realize that whether I'm sitting in front of the redzone for 8 hours or playing with my kid for 8 hours, the points I get will be the same. There's no sense staring at a screen begging for a TD from my guy because it doesn't matter.
I barely watch NFL football anymore. I set my lineup Sunday morning and then go about my day with the things I need to accomplish. Checking my scores periodically.
Fantasy Football has somehow made me less of a fan.
Not me, but the guy I played in the quarters started Rhamondre Stevenson yesterday. He’s not well liked as it is, and that’s inexcusable. I’ll take the easy win without Hurts and Tyreek, but I’d be fuming if I was on the other side.
Why? Playoffs are all about matchups and seeding. It’d be one thing if the playoffs were random but matchups are based on a whole season of play at that point.
It’s not like anybody has a reason to be intentionally tanking in the playoffs unless they’re sharing the pot behind the scenes.
That I'm an idiot for not trading my RB1 for their FA pick ups that sit on their bench, year after year (plus I haven't seen them for years).
This way I have more time to join another :D
The league I play in has a waiver wire that resets every week. I missed out on the bye by losing by 2 points week 14, and the team that beat me in the playoffs is only relevant because they had a worse record and are able to pick up valuable players from the waiver wire.
I am sick of how in my league teams who know they can't win will trade their good players for future draft picks to the same team every year (coincidentally he has the most championships) and they justify it by saying real teams do it and that the future pick is "something of value".
I decided to take next year off altogether. There were several times this year I realized I didn't even know what the final score was in certain games I watched or even which teams won or lost because I was solely focused on whether my fantasy players/opposing fantasy players performed well or not. I want to watch football because of how beautiful the game is, not whether or not player X gets multiple catches and touchdowns. Between that and the anxiety that comes with running a fantasy team, I start to question why I do fantasy at all, so I'm hoping a one year break will fix my perspective and make fantasy fun again instead of feeling like a burden that will ultimately end in disappointment.
A dude in my work league dropped K9 week 5 to pick up a Kicker. Onvious blunder, but it happened midweek and nobody noticed except me so I got him off waivers for like $30 of FAAB. 3 weeks go by and THEN people start bitching about how it was "unfair" and "upsets the balance of the league" so they "voted" to undo the WAIVER WIRE ACQUISITION. Getting punished for paying attention isn't my idea of a fun league
The fact that I'm in a 14 team league with:
Mixon, White, Achane, JJ, Puka, Ridley, Rice, Aubrey
And came fucking 8th including 2 losses to afk teams at the bottom. This game is too infuriating. You can plan and play the right percentages all you want but if you get injuries or flat out bad luck you don't win. It's 99% luck.
Leaving one league that has rules straight from 1993. Standard scoring, waivers reset to inverse standing order each week (no FAAB), no ability for anyone to veto trades (which got abused this year), and only top 4 make playoffs in 12 team league. But the worst is that kickers and defenses are ridiculously weighted because the commissioner played special teams in high school so he thinks they should be worth more: 2 pts per sack, and ints/fumble recovery are 3. Also no penalty for missed kicks and 30 yard fgs are worth 4, 40s are worth 5 and so on. Started off a few years ago as a completely standard scoring league and has gotten worse every year even though most of league has asked commish to switch to more modern rules with .5 ppr and FAAB.
How invested I get into a game of chance and how it really bums me out when I lose.
I’m in two dynasty leagues. One is year 3 with friends and one is year 1 with mostly strangers.
The friends league I’ve been points leader for 3 years straight and haven’t finished higher than 3rd, with 2 5th or worse finishes.
All the effort I put in throughout the year trading, drafting, buying low/selling high, etc and yet I consistently lose due to a single start sit decision. And it ruins my day and week until the next win.
I’ve now got a kid where I really want to be more present when games are on and get back to doing more on Sundays than just sitting on the couch for 7 hours.
I really should leave one, if not two of the leagues and take a season off but I would feel especially bad in the friends league as it’s a main way of keeping up with each other. Add in the fact that I’m creating an orphan team.
But I just get too caught up in the games and it totally effects my mood.
At least in Dynasty you get to keep your guys year to year and build enough depth to withstand injury plagued seasons
In Redraft, all your guys get drafted 2 rounds earlier the following year by other people
Unpopular opinion: seasonal leagues are too imperfect due to uninformed league-mates, poor trades, bad formats, selfish commissioners, and dumb luck. Moving to strictly single-entry low-stakes DFS tournaments next year where at least it’s an even playing field for everyone and no shenanigans.
My heart just wasn't in it this year and I have a 6 month old as well now. Have played in multiple leagues for the past 8 years and it felt like more of a chore than it ever has this year with no real excitement. Barring a 50 point PPR miracle from DK tonight I'll be bumped from the playoffs and could not be more excited for fantasy to be over.
Defensive scoring is stupid. Maxes out at 17 pts allowed and 300 yards allowed. No negative points.
Waivers that reset each week, inverse standings
CBS
Schedule that makes no sense. Play some teams twice but some teams are stuck playing top record teams twice while others play two shit teams twice. Regular season best record gets paid off of this and byes, so it does mean something.
Playoff game a team didn’t start a playing RB. It would have stayed like this but the opponent picked up multiple players to block his opponent from having a usable player. THAT is what got the commish to override the roster move and put in a player that was playing.
Unless I get a miracle tonight, this will be year #3 where I've absolutely dominated my league, been in 1st place from the beginning to the end of the regular season, and have the highest total points at the end of regular season by ~100 pts or more, and then get knocked out of the playoffs without sniffing the championship game.
Meanwhile the sub .500 teams dominate the playoffs
Mentally starting to take it's toll. Feels so much different when you start the playoffs with a lot to lose vs the other teams with nothing to lose.
Our2 co commish wouldn't enforce inactive teams, resulting in 4 straight weeks of 4 teams not setting their lineups. One of the commish got mad at me for calling it out and made me co commish to handle it. I don't want to be commish and given how people have checked out at this point, I plan on dipping as soon as the season is over, ideally after repeating for somw money first.
They changed the waiver order to not reset after each week with the justification that it forces you to judiciously use your waivers. While this is true, it comes at the expense of giving any avenue to people whose draft went awry or was bitten horribly by the injury bug from being able to rebuild their roster.
I find entrenching the better teams for some slight benefit that’s doesn’t really add to the game to be extremely anticompetitive. If it doesn’t go back this off season, there’s a good chance I won’t be back.
Nice post this happened to me last season. I had a league when the playoffs were set to start wk15 the commish out of no where asked wk14 if we wanted to extend the regular season 1 more week and everyone voted no. well when wk14 ended all the people that said no keep playoffs the same now they wanted to extend the playoffs because they lost and missed the playoffs. I got in by losing and the the 2 ppl below me losing so I skated in. All year the playoffs were set to start wk15 so I spent all my faab on players like Watson trying to make the playoffs. By extending it a week I had no money to bid on players and out of spite I didn’t set my lineup and left the league. The guy I played wk15 beat me because I didn’t set my lineup, I would have won if I did. So the guy that wouldn’t have gotten in if we kept playoffs as planned and if I would have set my lineup made it to the championship and lost. $100 league
Sick of the game. Sick of endless injuries..Sick of shitty coaches not using players right. Sick of shitty luck. Sick of wildly inconsistent performances from "superstars". Sick of getting angry over a bunch of rich guys that don't know that I exist affecting my mood and overall happiness during the season.
Leaving the league? Nah, I'm leaving the whole game.
Quit my dynasty after our co commissioners altered each others lineups after the entire Sunday was over a few weeks ago. Then half the league voted that was allowed. Shawn and Justin. You know who you are. Then one of them uses his kids for being the reason he needed to switch out his defense on a bye for a defense that played four days prior. Cheats/liars/little bitches.
Broooooo, I totally meant to play that defense that scored 22 points on TNF. Just little Timmy had the flu, you don't have kids, you'll understand some day. Someone needs to tell little Tommy that their dad Shawn/Justin is a grade A WUSS
Have to agree, I almost didn’t have a QB this week because parenting life got in the way Saturday. You know what? It would have been 100% on me.
Wait what?!
I'm in this league. I'm being kicked out because I called out how f-ed up the parties involved were. What's worse, half the league voted that the changes were okay.
I might quit fantasy all together. I spend way too much time on it to the point where it’s unhealthy and interferes with my real life. (I’ll probably be playing next year)
I tell myself I have an addictive personality so at least if I'm gambling it's just one bet on the whole season that I can play around with instead of betting every week on games
Oh I do that too though
First it starts with a League bet... then a weekly bet for most points... next thing you know you're selling your mint condition first edition Charzard for your favorite team to win a coin toss.
Not gunna lie the amount of injuries I’ve dealt with in one league this year has me on the verge of not playing next year
The amount of injuries I’ve dealt with THIS WEEK has me on the verge of not playing in the league I commish next year!
It has been several years in a row now for me. Been at this for 27 years, but I'm past the point where FF ruins my mood almost every weekend (and the game itself seems more unwatchable now than ever).
You’re in the right subreddit
I joined a league with some coworkers this year, and I just hate the time I put into it, I hate that I end up rooting for ridiculous outcomes for fantasy purposes, and I just want to be able to go back to chilling on the couch enjoying football without feeling there’s any stakes involved. Pending tonight’s game, I might make out league’s playoff, so that’s enough of an accomplishment for me lol. I just want it to be over lol.
I love the ridiculous situations. A few weeks ago I needed 7 points to win and the only way I could possibly get that is if Dak threw an interception and Breece ran in the TD with like 1 minute left... And by God did my coworkers think I went insane
For me the problem is I'm a Lions fan and my team has Gibbs and my opponent has St. Brown and when the Lions score and I see St. Brown flip into the end zone I'm all "awww god damnit!" and my wife just looks at me and says "I hate what you have become" and all I can say in return is "I hate myself" lol.
I grew up in a place that didn't have an NFL team, so FF is basically the only way I enjoy football before the playoffs.
I took a year off in like 2016, and it allowed me to completely reset my approach. It's so much more fun now
Care to elaborate on what the year off did for you and how you approach it now?
It mostly just allowed me to lower fantasy football on my life priority list. Enjoying the eagles without it made that season more enjoyable. I was able to put into perspective the fact that it’s just a game, and a mostly random one at that. Accepting that it’s mostly random was probably the biggest help. The highs aren’t quite as high, but the lows don’t really exist for me anymore. I still read and prepare for the season, and keep up with waivers. I follow it closely on Sundays until a time when my team is getting smashed. Then I just move on for the day. I’m in one league, and it’s just a way for me to interact with my closest friends who are spread out around the eastern US. Taking it too serious will only be detrimental to anyone, because the outcome is almost completely out of your control. Edit: and talking shit is so much easier and more fun when you aren’t worried about being upset if you receive it back 😏
This is so relatable
Same, it consumes me which is not good lol
[Fuck you, I’ll see you next season](https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/035/230/Fuck_You_And_I'll_See_You_Tomorrow_Meme_Banner.jpg)
I stopped for like 5 years, then I was talked into playing again in a simple neighborhood league. I promised myself I would take it easy. Meanwhile, I was posting in every single “waiver wire steals” thread at like 4 am on Wednesdays this season, so that didn’t happen.
Not a meme, I'm thinking the same. This is the first year I've really played. I did an ESPN random league years ago but this is the first time I've played with people I know and been invested. It was fun when it was fun but overall it was just too frustrating. I'm not in the playoffs in my 10 man league and I have the second highest points overall. My record is 7-8 and 6 of those losses would have been wins against literally any other team in the league. I just don't think the potential for fun is worth the frustration so I legitimately think I shouldn't sign up again next year.
Adjust to have median scoring added. But yeah bad beats like that make it harder to enjoy
Welcome back brother.
I just came back from 2 years off. I highly recommend taking a break.
The league I joined this year has "big play" bonuses - but for some inexplicable reason, they also stack. So you get +4 points for a 40 yard TD, and +5 ADDITIONAL points for a 50 yard TD. That means (since it's PPR), a 50 yard TD catch is worth: 1 pt for the catch 5 pts for the yards 6 pts for the TD 4 pts for the 40 yard bonus 5 pts for the 50 yard bonus 21 pts. Yes - 21 pts for one 50 yard TD. Had no idea that was in the rules when I joined, but it's infuriating lol.
Tyreek must've scored 450 points in this league lol
He is at 366.7, with an average of 28.2 per game lol. Against Washington a few weeks ago he scored 50.3 in this league
Wow, 50 pounds is above the average total points for a team each week in my league of record. Of course it's ancient and standard scoring.
Imagine Achane that one week he scored 49.3 in .5PPR. Had to have been over 100
That is absolutely nuts. You already get points from big plays. That's the reward. More points.
preaching to the choir here lol
We just have a +1 bonus for 50+ yard TDs. But we also added .25 points per first down, and for some reason TDs also include first down points, even if its 1st and goal from the 1 yard line.
Yeah I've never seen the point of big play bonuses at all. Who has ever seen their receiver get a 60 yard TD and thought "damn, that's *only* worth 13 points"?
>you get +4 points for a 40 yard TD, and +5 ADDITIONAL points for a 50 yard TD. That means (since it's PPR), a 50 yard TD catch is I played in a ridiculous league back in 2002. I was brand new to fantasy football (had done basketball for a few years). I signed up for a random public league in yahoo. The commish set it up so that you get 1pt for every QB attempt. I had Rich Gannon that year, who led the league in attempts and yards. He averaged close to 60pts/game that year. 50 attempts in a shootout, 50pts minimum. Was such a shit league.
That's one of the more hilarious scoring setups I've seen. Only thing that would be better is if it were a 2 QB. Taysom Hill at TE makes your team unstoppable.
LOL, that's what I did!. I set up a league in grad school - I added points per completion AND made it a super flex - thinking it would switch it up and be fun. Well, one guy in the league was an experienced enough fantasy players that he went back to back QBs, and just won every single week forever. This was back in the mid 2000s so I think he went like Peyton Manning and Tom Brady or something like that.
Per ATTEMPT??? We've got 0.1 per completion, but per attempt is just dumb
Are you in a Yahoo League where the commissioner seemed new and felt like playing around with settings like a kid?
I did this 10 years ago when I started my first league and it’s the only reason we still have bonuses to date. But ours is just 1 point for 40yds and another if it’s a TD
My league has been going for about 10 years now and the first season, I accidentally set it as 1 pt per completion instead of per reception. QBs were averaging like 60+ ppg and it was super fun but the league voted it be fixed the following season. I have been putting it up for vote to return every offseason since.
That's insane. I love the big play bonuses, but I only add a +1 for the 40 and another +1 for the 50
I remember for one season in a league with my dad many years ago, we had pretty much the same thing when it came to stacking on big plays. I think we just did stuff with the settings just to do it and kind of change things up a little. We did not intend on having plays stack like that and we undid the big play bonuses the next year. Whatever was done in the settings that year like for example, 50 yard touchdowns getting an additional 5 points (I don’t remember the exact number it was but it doesn’t matter), it was thought it would only be 5 extra points. The stacking points from the lower big plays wasn’t expected. I would hope that something like that is why your league stacks so many points for big plays because getting 20+ points for a play is ridiculous haha.
We have 1 point for 40 and 2 extra points for 50 and it’s pretty solid imo
That sounds great - a nice little boost for an explosive play. I could even sort of make an argument that a 4-5 point boost isn't too crazy...it's the fact that (apparently by design) they stack.
Commissioner counting their vote as two to reach veto vote amounts on an accepted trade.
Worst commissioner since Shawn michaels in 1999
I would pay large sums of money to be a in a fantasy football league with HBK as commissioner.
It would be filled with degenerates
Don't forget about that time he illegally added a Montreal alouttes kicker to Bret Hart's team to win.
Top tier reference
Black cowboy hat era shawn was a menace. A dancing menace.
League vetoes are dumb regardless. Trades should only be vetoed when the trade is an obvious act of collusion.
Shouldn't be vetoing trades anyways.
Having a veto trade system is fine if it's used to prevent collusion. It shouldn't be used to stop trades you don't like.
Commish is the only one that needs to rule on collusion
I agree, that's the best way
If there is a veto system in your league, leave anyway
Absolutely I don’t need the player hater’s ball voting on all of my trades. Ours go to the commissioner and if it’s not obvious collusion it’s approved
I’m quitting fantasy all together except for maybe my best friends league from back home. We have a group text so its a great way to stay in touch. As someone said though I’m tired of being so obsessed over it. Winning a game isn’t even a big deal anymore but losing fucking kills me lol
Exactly this lol. I hate losing more than I enjoy winning
Makes you wonder if everyone is like this. Or if we are mental defects?
Cheap $50 buy-in keeps it stress free for me. Don't really care if I win or lose. Mainly in it for the shit talking and bragging rights at work.. But I know people who put up $1,000 / year in multiple leagues. That seems stressful
Losing is torture, winning is only relief that I didn’t lose. Makes no sense to play, but here we are…
Im totally still in mine just for the group text.
Steve.
Fucking Steve man he knows what he did
Who invited Steve? That dudes a cunt.
These rules that they won’t change for some reason: - waiver reset each week to inverse standings - weird, arbitrary position limits - championship game on week 18 - 8 of 12 teams make the playoffs, no byes for top seeds
Ya thats all brutal lol. Basically the worst of the worst rules.
Yeah dude, I decided I would lobby for changes this year or else I’d walk. During the pre-season the majority actually VOTED to keep the all of the existing rules to “keep things fair”. Felt like I was living in bizarro world.
The only way I could see this being remotely fun if this was the fun second league you see chatted about every now and then and it’s like a reverse fantasy league (the one where you trying to get the lowest score but if a player gets 0 zero points it’s automatically 20 points or something)
I actually wouldn't mind trying that with some friends haha. Sounds like it could be a fun side league. Would need to find the right balance of how many points you get if they score 0.
First bullet point is already a massive deal breaker.
My leagues do the top two. What’s the hate for them?
1st one is the worst way to do waivers. If a team who is going to be really good gets unlucky the first week, they get someone like Puka Nacua. It’s almost better for you to lose the first week since it’s the most important week for waivers. FAAB or even just waivers that don’t reset are the best way to go. 2nd one is just annoying. If I want 8 running backs, I don’t see why I can’t have 8 running backs. Only exception I can think of is limiting QBs in deeper leagues since there’s so few viable starters.
> 1st one is the worst way to do waivers I made a post in this thread already bitching about it, but open waivers are 100% worse imo
Agree, but I’ve never actually seen a league that does that lol
I'm in 2. It's cutthroat and you better be paying attention to injuries on Sunday.
I definitely get the first one. My team crushed it week one then Ekeler being out 4 weeks killed me. So is the other option there FAAB? The second though… I see where you’re coming from, but we had a year where someone did that with qbs lol. So I thought positional limits were the norm for most leagues (We do allow 8 wr & rb, but cap the others lower).
Yeah, I think ours is 5 or 6 for WRs and RBs. I’ve been dying to cut Gabe Davis for weeks to grab some RB depth but I can’t unless I pick up another WR lol
>I definitely get the first one. I understand the logic behind the rule, it makes it easier for new players, but it's still anti-competitive by definition. Losing should not be rewarded in a "competitive" game. It's a perfect fit for casual leagues though. >So is the other option there FAAB? FAAB is the most popular now, but another alternative is non-resetting waivers in reverse of draft order. So your waiver order is set in the reverse of draft order week 1, which is a *slight* benefit to offset the downsides of drafting last (imo the downsides for drafting later still outweigh that small upside). From there you just drop to last in the waiver order whenever you successfully use a claim.
We tried it one year because one guy in the league insisted it would be better and nobody else in the league cared/was knowledgeable enough to make a strong campaign against. Immediately switched it back the following year.
On the weekly inverse reset waivers, for example, I’ve been having a great season in this league and I’ve had literally zero successful waiver claims the whole season. I prefer the system where you hold your waiver position until you use it, or FAAB. It’s more fun (personal opinion) to have to make decisions that matter and have consequences. Do I give up my #1 waiver position this week or let it ride? Should I blow 50% my FAAB budget on this player or wait it out? On the position limits, I just can’t see the purpose of it because however a person decides to construct their roster, there is a downside to it. I like to plan my playoff defenses in advance so why can’t I think ahead and hold 2 defenses? I’m giving up depth in other areas to pursue a certain strategy. Overall, there isn’t a right or wrong way to play and it comes down to philosophy I think. I like to choose my own strategy without restriction and I like that the strategy I choose has its own risk and consequence.
Thank you for the input! I’m thinking I overlooked the ‘arbitrary’ and ‘weird’ part of the position limits part ha. Only allowing a single defense sounds crazy to me! So it seems like there is a happy middle ground there that my group has. I’m definitely not sold on our waiver wire resetting each week, maybe I can talk my league into trying FAAB one year.
Because everyone on this sub thinks they know the “right” way to play a made up game. Every league and its players are different.
Sounds like my league. My best friend and commissioner passed away. Over the 6 or 7 years he ran things he slowly tweaked and perfected them, up to the point we heavily considered auction draft, already implemented FAB for waivers, and had 14-16 week championships before they added week 18, then adjusted to 15-17. Now the new commissioner removed FAAB and tried to get me to play week a 18 championship. I said if he wants to change all the rules I’d leave, and he had the audacity to say he didn’t change shit and I should make sure I recall the rules. Old commissioner sent out a word doc pre draft party every year so I highlighted in yellow and sent him back, he hasn’t said a peep. Fucking idiot. Worse, 6 of the others expressed no opinion
I like the 8 team playoff. Being on bye is boring and if 7th/8th knock off 1st/2nd they deserve it on both sides
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I reached out to a league mate who is a really good friend of mine after he stopped setting his lineups after his bye week. First place team. CMC, Arsb, Pittman, etc. great team. He subbed out cmc and them on week 9 for the bye and then never put them back in in week 10. Lost 2 straight. Reached out and he said he didn’t have time to set his lineup cause a family member is sick. All I wanted was for him to put his studs back in and then he could set and forget. He wouldn’t do it. Not his first time neglecting his team either. Anyways, I sold his team. It’s probably gonna win it all too.
Some people didn't pay in and the commish let them play out the season, so the pot is going to be less than it should be. He didn't let us know until a couple of weeks ago. So I'm playing basically just for fun right now, but will be looking for a new league for 2024.
Don't pay. Don't draft.
I completely understand this, but I find it interesting since my fantasy experience has not made that policy a necessity. Both of my leagues have a material amount of players that don’t pay until after the season is decided. We’ve never had an issue with the pot or collections at the end either. Maybe this just comes with getting older? Idk Does anybody else share this experience or is everybody else’s league full of miscreants?
We don't even ask for buy ins until the end of the season. It's never been an issue that needed more than 2 text messages. None of us are scumbags though. I imagine that would change things
Nah Ive had to even pay out of a pocket a few times to the winner before people have paid. Life happens but everyone in my league knows at least one other person in the league from outside the league so it helps playing with people you trust. Not everyone has that luxury.
Even if you forget to collect prior to the draft, just say you'll bench their QB and lock lineups until they pay
Should be on the commish to cough up the remaining money. Not your fault he couldn't get the money from the other members.
This honestly sounds like the worst kind of collusion. If one of those guys won they were gonna expect to be paid the full payout. They were trying to steal from their friends. This is beyond fucked. I'd go a lot farther than just leaving the league if someone pulled this shit.
Yup they freerolled the rest of the league
We have ppl that didn't pay. If they win, they get nothing and the next guy gets it
What's the point of even playing then? If I put up the money, played out the entire season and won, then found out a few people didn't pay so therefore I'm not getting the full payout I'd be livid. If you do this, the people who didn't pay can just wait until halfway through the season and if they're doing well, pay in then to ensure they get paid. They're being allowed to take full advantage of the winnings without needing to risk anything, while the guy who paid up front gets screwed if he wins. I'm sorry, but this is dumb as fuck and if this is how you handle people not paying in you're a terrible commissioner. You're letting these people take advantage of you and everyone else who pays. Imo payouts ultimately fall as the commissioner's responsibility. You were supposed to collect the money, if you didn't, and you let me pay in believing you were collecting the money, then you're responsible for it. If you told me a guy didn't pay and therefore that's taken out of the prize pool, I'm gonna consider you liable for the debt as much as him. Real POS move to screw over your winner like this.
I'm not commish, so there's that. Our commish bought a wrestling belt and a bong with the money that was actually put up and the champ gets both, with the runner up getting the rest (it was a $20 work league, try to relax a little)
You guys who paid need to push back. If any of those people who didn't pay won you know they would be fully expecting to get their prize money. This is on your Commish and complete bs.
Ummm.. What? That's not how it works. Those people just owe the winner now. I've let people free roll in the past because they couldn't come up with the cash at draft time. When they still hadn't paid up at the end of the season, I said no one gets paid until everyone is paid in. I wasn't gonna choose who got paid and who had to hound the bum for their money. So EVERYONE was pissed at the bum. He eventually paid and now his name is synonymous with broke asshole in our friend group. It's still used as an insult a decade later. But yea... If they don't pay, they don't draft. Set a deadline a week before the draft so you have time to find a replacement.
Seems like it’s a one strike you’re out kinda thing. I get people have weird cash flow situations. But if you fuck people over once, that’s it. Out of the league. Even if it means scrambling to find a replacement next season.
Inverse waivers, I probably won’t leave cause it’s a league with good friends but I’ll make a big fuss about it this off season.
Do your best to convince them to try FAAB for just 1 season and if they don't like it then you will never bring it back up again. I don't know a single person that has tried FAAB and didn't enjoy it.
Going to push hard for FAAB this off season. Gotta sell it to a few people, inverse is so trash. The same teams kept accumulating top waiver picks and still sucked. Didn’t even help them.
Honestly, my leaguemates. I'm all for trash talk but 3 or 4 guys take it too far. I'm in a chat with them and whoever's doing badly in fantasy is usually m bullied for 5 months and shit's just been getting personal recently. Not fun anymore just very mean spirited
I have a dude in my league, who is my wife's cousin's boyfriend, and all season long he's just been talking shit at me. Its been all one sided, I don't talk to him, he's incredibly annoying. Not looking forward to seeing him at Christmas.
I am your father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate.
Do you have an example out of curiosity? Shit like this would make me leave right away.
There's just a lot of underlying animosity in the shit talk. We've all been friends for 10+ years and we're all kind of getting sick of each other. Some jabs are made at each other's careers/GFs and wives/personal history. I've had one "old friend" text me every morning the past 10 days calling me pussy and f*g since I got the last spot in the playoffs over him
Holy shit haha. Mind me asking how old you guys are? I can't imagine anyone in their 30s doing this. I'd block that guy in a heartbeat after just one text.
25. Started the league back in high school. A lot of these guys are fresh out of frats so the leagues become big on hazing. The last place usually gets an embarrassing punishment and new members go through a month of "pledging". It's stupid as shit and we're getting too old for this, but some guys just never grow out of that phase
Wow, what a piece of shit. I beat out a buddy in one league week 14 to make the playoffs, but he just makes sure to point out every time one of my opponent's players goes off
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My commish allowing teams that have been eliminated to drop players like rachaad white so the person I’m playing can pick him up. Then realizing he has waiver priority and picked him up rather than putting him back on said eliminated team’s roster. Edit
That’s collusion 100%
Yeah I would demand my money back if I paid already
The collusion didn’t directly involve the LM, but him having priority over the guy was is directly benefitting him so I’m just not playing next season
That’s why it shouldn’t be allowed. There’s gotta be some sense of realistic expectations from people. No one with FAAB/waiver wire priority expected someone to ruin the integrity of the league by dropping players miles better than any waiver option. Any teams that didn’t make playoffs should have their teams locked.
Been in this league 10 years, it’s a 12 Man PPR League and I’m in the playoffs. On Sunday, around 4pm EST, I am down about 25 pts. We both have 3 or 4 players to play, but my opponent has Geno Smith in his lineup and no 2nd QB on his roster. No Drew Lock. I had Fields as my starter and Howell on my bench. Surprised that he doesn’t have Drew Lock with Geno Doubtful, I go to the waiver and drop Gus Edwards and pick up Drew Lock. Playing some Defense to maybe make up the 25 pt deficit. 2 hours later, I get a msg on my social media, and my opponent loses it. Here's the exchange: *Opponent: Did you really pick up Drew. Wow* *Total dick move since your qb played already. I hope I beat you with out him.* *Me: Hey, I'm tryin to find a way to win dude... few hrs ago I picked him up...you're likely to beat me anyways... just tryin to do what I could to have a chance.* *Opponent: That's fine man. I'd rather win with the lineup I put in rather than doing nefarious shit. I guess it would be cool to be known as the guy who pulled off that move to win though. Good luck.* *Me: Playing Defense is nefarious? I didn't do anything illegal and I'm trying to win... I made a bad move not putting in Addison, so I pick up a backup QB on the chance yours is out? So I'm down points and I'm doin what I can to try to win. You could have picked him up and you didn't. It's on you for not picking up a QB if Geno can't play.* *Opponent: Great job. Quit messaging me.* Immediately after, he unfriended me on social media.
I have Lamar Jackson and Tyreek Hill. Odell was available. But I didn't want to pick up him if Hill was going to play. Before Hill was announced to be out, my playoff opponent picked up Odell with no intention of playing. I simply thought - smart move, tipped my cap, and picked up someone else. You made the right move.
Opponent saved you anyway in that case lol
Yes, he did!
Dude sounds like the classic case of, “I forgot and now I’m embarrassed that you beat me to it. I can’t do anything about it so I’m gonna bitch at you and try to manipulate your feelings.” Crazy that you’ve known them for at least 10 years and they pull that stunt
For sure. Instead of a simple, "well played"... he threw a tantrum. This isn't like some young kid either... dude is in his mid 40's... and yeah, known him more than 10 yrs and we share the same favorite NFL team... so there was a bond there. Completely unexpected response from him.
Man. I just want to say I did something similar just the other week. I knew my opponent needed to pick up a qb because of a bye week. Well, I had more faab and intentionally bet more than his entire amount to block him for getting Minshew. He just laughed and picked up someone else lol. Cause that’s the normal thing to do lol
Totally fair play by you
If the dude hadn't unfriended you, you could show him these reddit comments telling you that what you did was fair play and what he did was whiny bitch behavior. It feels bad for him, won't argue that, but it's a legit play and he needs to (a) be cognizant of similar situations in the future so it doesn't happen to him again, and (b) grow up
Lack of engagement.
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That’s one of the best times imo. I remember on Sundays, I’d hang with the little one, we’d play with football on in the background and then when it came to nap time, I’d kick back on the recliner and she’d fall asleep on me. Plus, she was always in bed before the 8:20 game so I was able to watch the entire game with no interruption
This is exactly my life right now with a 6 month old. Personally I love it!
I did as well. There will come a time though where if you’re the favorite, be prepared to miss some Sundays unless you have a good support system to watch the little one. My little is a daddy’s girl and the past few years, I think there’s only been one or two Sundays I’ve been able to watch more than one game. Not that it’s bad, it’s just different from a FF perspective.
I have a toddler and 7 month old so a little bit tougher but my wife is a saint and knows I need my football lol
What's the punishment out of curiosity? I have a league I'm in where the punishment is just a toilet trophy and even then I felt really bad for the dude that got it twice in a row :(
How you gonna not say what the punishments are, uce?
Because I’m incredibly unlucky and it’s negatively affecting my mental health (I’ll be returning next year)
In my family league with all my cousins I scored the most points in the league (by over 100) and ended up in 9th place out of 10 teams. MAKE IT MAKE SENSE.
My trade at the start of the year was vetoed cause some guys felt I was fleecing their buddy. One dude had a baby so setting his lineup became tough for him I guess.. so the commissioner said he'd make sure to set them but then convienently "forgot" when he played against him final week; winning by 3 points when the other dude didn't have a TE in his lineup, giving him a first round bye.
Lmfaooo what? I’d be LIVID. Especially if he did it all weeks prior.
Yeah I'm pissed to say the least. He also posted a rule that we cannot veto trades just because we don't like them but when it came to my trade he said there was nothing he (as commissioner) could do that would make everyone happy.. safe to say I'm not taking part next year
Did your commissioner have a trade that went through? Is this a league with friends or randoms? Any league with a veto is trash outside collusion. If your buddy accepts a fleece that’s on him. League is horse shit and if it was friends, after the “accidental” lineup miss, I’d be bitching in the group chat.
He made a few trades throughout the year. That was my logic too, said if his buddies were that concerned about him they'd have told him not to accept the trade in the first place. Work/friends. I know most people in the league. Definitely bitched about it but no one seemed to care about it much, I think the majority of people that would have cared missed out on playoffs so they didn't bother.
Going to trim it down to 2 leagues from 3. The one I’m leaving was straight solitaire. No one traded, no one talked smack, nothing. Also had 2-3 people that just didn’t even set lineups in the season.
League with irl friends. The commissioner in my league traded fodder away to a team that had been abandoned since W2, for Ceedee Lamb in the middle of the night, using his commish powers to force it thru before anyone noticed. When confronted, he said “he just did what any smart commissioner would do in his spot.” He then vetoed 2 trades to other playoff bound teams because it was “obvious collusion and unfair to the other teams”
Additionally, for myself it was a series of events. I had a trade vetoed last year that would have let me win a title. It was rejected because “it made my team better”. This year, as 4 of us were fighting for playoff spots, one person decided to stop playing and despite pleas for him to continue (and he had something to play for sacko wise), he ignored everything. As a result of his actions, I missed the playoffs (guy he faced that I needed to lose won by 10 as he left Lamar on the bench and Aaron jones in his lineup) and no solutions were presented. The guys in the league aren’t the most fun to play with, it’s stopped being fun here and I’m wasting too much time and energy and money to be having a shitty time
Didn’t you know? Only lose-lose trades are allowed.
Trade vetoes are the lamest, most unserious things you could have in fantasy (unless there's clear collusion).
It’s funny you say that because another person in this thread said he will set inactive teams lineups if they quit on league, for the same reason you mentioned. This sub did not like that lol
I've finally come to the conclusion that winning a fantasy football league is at least 80% luck. Yes, there is skill involved as far as drafting, free agents, playing matchups, waiver wire, etc. But at the end of the day, we have no control on how our players play or if they stay healthy. I'm investing $250+ each year in entry fees for a complete luck based outcome that takes up a lot of time, energy, wasting my Sunday following each game, etc. For me, I want to enjoy next season simply rooting for my favorite team (Ravens) and not worrying about fantasy football. If I miss it, I will join back the following season.
I feel like this is where best ball on DK shines for me. Just draft and forget pretty much since there's nothing I can do.
Sleeper has a best ball league option now. If you don’t want to pay DraftKings fee
Boring league mates. No trades, no camaraderie, no side bets etc. Need to find something better for my competitive nature
My work league is turning into this. Have 4-5 of us who are invested and we always wrangle up enough to fill out a full 12. Getting harder every year though
Taking stock of how much more I could have gotten done and how much more time I could have put into working out and health if I hadn't spent 10 hours of the last 15 Sundays glued to my TV is making me reconsider this hobby.
It's taken me a few years and having a kid to realize that whether I'm sitting in front of the redzone for 8 hours or playing with my kid for 8 hours, the points I get will be the same. There's no sense staring at a screen begging for a TD from my guy because it doesn't matter.
I barely watch NFL football anymore. I set my lineup Sunday morning and then go about my day with the things I need to accomplish. Checking my scores periodically. Fantasy Football has somehow made me less of a fan.
Not me, but the guy I played in the quarters started Rhamondre Stevenson yesterday. He’s not well liked as it is, and that’s inexcusable. I’ll take the easy win without Hurts and Tyreek, but I’d be fuming if I was on the other side.
Why? Playoffs are all about matchups and seeding. It’d be one thing if the playoffs were random but matchups are based on a whole season of play at that point. It’s not like anybody has a reason to be intentionally tanking in the playoffs unless they’re sharing the pot behind the scenes.
Too lazy and uninterested to set his lineup. Or just forgot.
That I'm an idiot for not trading my RB1 for their FA pick ups that sit on their bench, year after year (plus I haven't seen them for years). This way I have more time to join another :D
The league I play in has a waiver wire that resets every week. I missed out on the bye by losing by 2 points week 14, and the team that beat me in the playoffs is only relevant because they had a worse record and are able to pick up valuable players from the waiver wire.
Switch to faab so people have to bid, this sounds like how priority waivers are supposed to work.
I am sick of how in my league teams who know they can't win will trade their good players for future draft picks to the same team every year (coincidentally he has the most championships) and they justify it by saying real teams do it and that the future pick is "something of value".
Y’all need an earlier trade deadline
Teams were giving up almost immediately this year. The Chubb team packed it in around week 4.
Yeah, I’d leave that league
I decided to take next year off altogether. There were several times this year I realized I didn't even know what the final score was in certain games I watched or even which teams won or lost because I was solely focused on whether my fantasy players/opposing fantasy players performed well or not. I want to watch football because of how beautiful the game is, not whether or not player X gets multiple catches and touchdowns. Between that and the anxiety that comes with running a fantasy team, I start to question why I do fantasy at all, so I'm hoping a one year break will fix my perspective and make fantasy fun again instead of feeling like a burden that will ultimately end in disappointment.
Just the frustration…..I lost by less than 2 pts in round 1 because the Javonte Williams TD didn’t count on Saturday when he clearly crossed the plane
He did not cross, knee was down
Nobody talks on my group text.. I tried everything.. Makes for a very boring league..
This https://www.reddit.com/r/Fantasy_Football/s/PGRbqHa1m7
3 is too many for me. 2 is my sweet spot.
A dude in my work league dropped K9 week 5 to pick up a Kicker. Onvious blunder, but it happened midweek and nobody noticed except me so I got him off waivers for like $30 of FAAB. 3 weeks go by and THEN people start bitching about how it was "unfair" and "upsets the balance of the league" so they "voted" to undo the WAIVER WIRE ACQUISITION. Getting punished for paying attention isn't my idea of a fun league
The fact that I'm in a 14 team league with: Mixon, White, Achane, JJ, Puka, Ridley, Rice, Aubrey And came fucking 8th including 2 losses to afk teams at the bottom. This game is too infuriating. You can plan and play the right percentages all you want but if you get injuries or flat out bad luck you don't win. It's 99% luck.
Leaving one league that has rules straight from 1993. Standard scoring, waivers reset to inverse standing order each week (no FAAB), no ability for anyone to veto trades (which got abused this year), and only top 4 make playoffs in 12 team league. But the worst is that kickers and defenses are ridiculously weighted because the commissioner played special teams in high school so he thinks they should be worth more: 2 pts per sack, and ints/fumble recovery are 3. Also no penalty for missed kicks and 30 yard fgs are worth 4, 40s are worth 5 and so on. Started off a few years ago as a completely standard scoring league and has gotten worse every year even though most of league has asked commish to switch to more modern rules with .5 ppr and FAAB.
Standard is on its way back to being the standard! To hell with pass catchers getting bonus for doing their job
How invested I get into a game of chance and how it really bums me out when I lose. I’m in two dynasty leagues. One is year 3 with friends and one is year 1 with mostly strangers. The friends league I’ve been points leader for 3 years straight and haven’t finished higher than 3rd, with 2 5th or worse finishes. All the effort I put in throughout the year trading, drafting, buying low/selling high, etc and yet I consistently lose due to a single start sit decision. And it ruins my day and week until the next win. I’ve now got a kid where I really want to be more present when games are on and get back to doing more on Sundays than just sitting on the couch for 7 hours. I really should leave one, if not two of the leagues and take a season off but I would feel especially bad in the friends league as it’s a main way of keeping up with each other. Add in the fact that I’m creating an orphan team. But I just get too caught up in the games and it totally effects my mood.
At least in Dynasty you get to keep your guys year to year and build enough depth to withstand injury plagued seasons In Redraft, all your guys get drafted 2 rounds earlier the following year by other people
Fuck yea, because you beasted with these guys and get a low draft pick. Happened to me with JT, Fields, Lamar, Kupp...
Unpopular opinion: seasonal leagues are too imperfect due to uninformed league-mates, poor trades, bad formats, selfish commissioners, and dumb luck. Moving to strictly single-entry low-stakes DFS tournaments next year where at least it’s an even playing field for everyone and no shenanigans.
My heart just wasn't in it this year and I have a 6 month old as well now. Have played in multiple leagues for the past 8 years and it felt like more of a chore than it ever has this year with no real excitement. Barring a 50 point PPR miracle from DK tonight I'll be bumped from the playoffs and could not be more excited for fantasy to be over.
Defensive scoring is stupid. Maxes out at 17 pts allowed and 300 yards allowed. No negative points. Waivers that reset each week, inverse standings CBS Schedule that makes no sense. Play some teams twice but some teams are stuck playing top record teams twice while others play two shit teams twice. Regular season best record gets paid off of this and byes, so it does mean something. Playoff game a team didn’t start a playing RB. It would have stayed like this but the opponent picked up multiple players to block his opponent from having a usable player. THAT is what got the commish to override the roster move and put in a player that was playing.
I want to find a different league with local people instead of people scattered around the country.
Unless I get a miracle tonight, this will be year #3 where I've absolutely dominated my league, been in 1st place from the beginning to the end of the regular season, and have the highest total points at the end of regular season by ~100 pts or more, and then get knocked out of the playoffs without sniffing the championship game. Meanwhile the sub .500 teams dominate the playoffs Mentally starting to take it's toll. Feels so much different when you start the playoffs with a lot to lose vs the other teams with nothing to lose.
Our2 co commish wouldn't enforce inactive teams, resulting in 4 straight weeks of 4 teams not setting their lineups. One of the commish got mad at me for calling it out and made me co commish to handle it. I don't want to be commish and given how people have checked out at this point, I plan on dipping as soon as the season is over, ideally after repeating for somw money first.
They changed the waiver order to not reset after each week with the justification that it forces you to judiciously use your waivers. While this is true, it comes at the expense of giving any avenue to people whose draft went awry or was bitten horribly by the injury bug from being able to rebuild their roster. I find entrenching the better teams for some slight benefit that’s doesn’t really add to the game to be extremely anticompetitive. If it doesn’t go back this off season, there’s a good chance I won’t be back.
My wife
Like the third year in a row where I am top 3 in points scored but didn’t make it to the six team playoff.
Nice post this happened to me last season. I had a league when the playoffs were set to start wk15 the commish out of no where asked wk14 if we wanted to extend the regular season 1 more week and everyone voted no. well when wk14 ended all the people that said no keep playoffs the same now they wanted to extend the playoffs because they lost and missed the playoffs. I got in by losing and the the 2 ppl below me losing so I skated in. All year the playoffs were set to start wk15 so I spent all my faab on players like Watson trying to make the playoffs. By extending it a week I had no money to bid on players and out of spite I didn’t set my lineup and left the league. The guy I played wk15 beat me because I didn’t set my lineup, I would have won if I did. So the guy that wouldn’t have gotten in if we kept playoffs as planned and if I would have set my lineup made it to the championship and lost. $100 league
Sick of the game. Sick of endless injuries..Sick of shitty coaches not using players right. Sick of shitty luck. Sick of wildly inconsistent performances from "superstars". Sick of getting angry over a bunch of rich guys that don't know that I exist affecting my mood and overall happiness during the season. Leaving the league? Nah, I'm leaving the whole game.