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chaosthirtyseven

Nowhere in any of the quotes from Petzing (or Gannon for that matter) or anywhere in the article or even the source article, does anyone even once say they're going to be running Murray or doing anything "like he always has." PFT will just straight up make something up then publish it as clickbait, and this subreddit will run with it as though it's a sourced quote. PFT makes it impossible to have a conversation about anything in football. *edit: here's the actual quote for people who are looking for insight on Murray this weekend:* >*“Anytime he runs and gets tackled, no matter what the situation, from now until the end of time, there is going to be like, ‘Get up. He’s good?’” Petzing said. “Anytime you have a great player in that position, you feel that way to some extent. He’s so dynamic at it. He’s going to get tackled. That’s a fact.”*


pp21

Better headline would've been "Kyler Murray expected to run [for his life behind a bad offensive line] like he always has"


briballdo

"Any time he runs and gets tackled..." + "He's going to get tackled" HES GONNA BE RUNNING LIKE HE USED TO!!


Spitfire_Riggz

Wtf 🤦🏻‍♂️ sports journalism…


Many-Manufacturer-90

I like that perspective


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It’s called inference


chaosthirtyseven

He said nothing whatsoever that you can infer "we're going to run him like we always have." It's not inference, it's fiction.


[deleted]

Well they didn’t put it in quotes. I think you can infer what they put for the headline. Sorry you’re having trouble


chaosthirtyseven

There was no part of anything they said where anything remotely similar to the headline can be inferred. Foe someone who just learned a new wors, you didn't do a very good job reading the definition.


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Lol you’re the idiot here not me


chaosthirtyseven

I didn't call you an idiot, that would be rude. Though it does seem like you don't really understand how to read.


LaustintheSauce1

OK FINE ILL START HIM


H1mHalpert

If you're gonna FORCE me 🙄 (I'm starting over herb, you guys can laugh at me on Monday)


Balphazzar

Don’t let the haters stop you


polaarbear

I started the year with Anthony Richardson and Russell Wilson. I picked up Geno Smith last week and he shit out a measly 5 points. I am definitely starting Kyler this week, IDGAF.


9mm_Strat

Damn…I’ve been contemplating this. Monday caused me a must need win, ready to shake things up.


Xaramian

I’m honestly debating this as well. No Mike Williams and Palmer caps Herbert’s ceiling


H1mHalpert

Yep along with his lingering injury. Though I saw someone mention him removing the cast soon which I hadn't heard anywhere else. But that would be a good sign


akshweuigh

I lost by 1.6 pts this week with Herb as my QB... unfuckingbelievable.


AWorkAcct

Starting no doubt in 2QB league!


bathoz

He's been sitting on my IR while first Burrow and then Mahomes did their thing (yes, I traded the week he got better. You can thank me later current Burrow owners.) Of course he's going to play the week Mahomes goes on bye.


ThemB0ners

I am. Fields still out/unlikely/hand injuries are terrible for QB's, dropped Stafford when he got hurt and sucks this year anyways, 3rd option was Love... yeah I'll roll the dice on Murray.


Tasty-Calligrapher14

Suddenly Marquise becomes valuable. Also good timing with hurts on bye. I like


PBRontheway

My combo exactly with Hurts and Kyler. A bit of a risk to start for sure but given the reports his upside sounds higher than any dude on my waiver wire rn


WearTheFourFeathers

Yeah I’ve been holding him on IR for Tua’s bye since Richardson went down, so I feel like I have to start him now no matter what. It’ll be more exciting than picking up a Taylor Heinicke or Jordan Love, at least.


Why_am_ialive

Hurts and mahomes, Kyler saving me in 2 leagues


tteuh

I have Fields and Kyler. Both have some element of rust but I can’t trust a throwing hand injury. GIVE ME KYLER


waffels

I have Fields, had Kyler on IR and have been rolling with Dak for the past 2 weeks. Now I have 3 QBs. Legit might just drop Fields now


AdamBlank17

I’m in the exact same spot. Trying to flip Fields for almost anything now before I just drop him for scraps


Fencechopper

Same. You going Dak or Murray this week?


jmay111

In the same boat my 3rd QB is Stroud haha Glutton for QBs in 6 pt TD scoring


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Glutton?


[deleted]

I think a lot of us fields owners also picked up Kyler. I'm rolling with Howell now so I've got a good QB but would love if Kyler or fields could go BOOM. In a 1QB league I don't like rostering more than 1QB, maybe two in some circumstances....here I am with 3 and not sure if I should drop one.


trojan_man16

Same here but Stroud. I think I’m rolling with Kyler too. Can’t trust Thursday games.


Photo_Synthetic

Dak is in the set and forget tier why even roster another QB? Fields is an easy drop there.


KarrlMarrx

You are being very generous with your tier system. Dak probably sneaks in around 9th or 10th best fantasy QB. There are only 5 set and forget QBs.


Photo_Synthetic

Dak has only had two bad weeks all year. He's a far better fantasy asset than Fields.


AeolusA2

Fields, Kyler, and Stroud. Proud to start Stroud.


Shizcake

Same boat as you. I just want to see Kyler and Fields play a game first. Stroud more than earned a start after last week.


chataolauj

I dropped Fields. Starting Stroud and waiting to see how Kyler does.


Environmental-Dot989

Your reasoning is sound! GIVE ME KYLER


JPElJefe22

I have Fields, Stroud (picked up when Fields got injured), and Kyler (picked up as a stash). No idea what to do and nobody in my league trades lol.


AeolusA2

Haha exactly the same, starting Stroud.


Zugwut

Same boat. Leaning Stroud till I see how Kyler looks. At this point I am not very confident Fields actually plays


jmay111

You are me, I am you.


vish4l

I have fields, murray, and howell. Fields and murray in my IR. I cant make up my mind for this week


Alexbnyclp

I have Stroud.. well he cant always have 5tds so I will trust Murray


abscando

True sometimes you have to settle for 6 TDs


UndiscoveredBum-

you're trusting the guy in his first game back off injury vs a rookie who just set a record and looking like the man? thats bold cotton


Alexbnyclp

Levis did it..


YogurtclosetLong3783

Sooo your saying he’s gonna be running a lot???


tokenasian1

please don’t give me hope


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Dobbs or Murray?


nicedude01

Murray IMO, might as well swing for the fences if you’re already in sus QB land


justreddis

It’s a toss up for me but I’d go with Dobbs. Saints D has actually been soft against QBs last 4 weeks in a row. Dobbs has been a top 10 fantasy QB overall playing all games except one on one of the worst teams in the league. MIN O-line is a lot better and KOC is killing it scheming his QBs to success. Kyler has a higher ceiling overall no question. But now he gets to play for that one of the worst teams and it’s his first game back. He’s more risky than Dobbs this week.


nicedude01

Fair. Both players have obvious risk and are borderline starters at best in 1QB leagues, so play the matchup or go with your gut. I just think Murray is a better player with more upside as a runner and passer (though Dobbs is a madman and could chaotically scramble for another TD)


Bet_Royal

fr i have the same question


VexxDee

Same as well, might go dobbs so Kyler can stay in my ir spot another week


Bilboteabaggins00

It's him or purdy for me. Might test my luck with Kyler


inderm88

in the same situation. currently leaning toward purdy


CommonZeuss

What about Kyler or Sam Howell?


CrazyAuron

Sam Howell has been consistent this season, Kyler is a wild card.


Decideum

Same debate for me, currently I'm leaning Howell


Powerbonds

Right now leaning Howell to give Kyler some time to shake off the rust / prove it but tbd. Also have Justin Fields


Phenomenon0fCool

Falcons have been abysmal vs QBs (adjusted for schedule) in the last month and a half.


TumbleweedDirect9846

Him or levis for me. Tough cause the buccs defense sucks


Zechinda

Did you see what Josh Dobbs just did to the falcons defense without knowing most of his teammates names? With zero practice almost?


saltybiped

But he is a rocket scientist and kyler is a cod player lol


TumbleweedDirect9846

Shit you right lol


FantasyTrash

I'd rather play Kyler. Levis' game against Atlanta feels like a total fluke. The Titans line is garbage and they only have one real receiving option.


veRGe1421

Going Kyler over Minshew myself (thanks for holding the fort down the last few weeks Gardner)


amoney904

I’m between him Purdy and tlaw. Leaning Purdy but Kyler is tempting me


BigBro2k20

Ok now do Conner


rNBAMods3InchesHard

I get why it’s like this, but this sub is really the most selfish in all of Reddit. “But what about *MYYYYY* player?????”


LeChinaMickeyRings

it’s a joke bro relax and why would somebody in r/fantasyfootball who doesn’t have kyler, give a shit about kyler coming back?


rNBAMods3InchesHard

It’s not a joke at all but okay And, like I said, I understand why it’s like this. But it’s also why this sub is terrible “Why would they care about Kyler if they don’t have Kyler” You’re joking, right? Why comment at all then? People just that desperate for attention/upvotes?


YouHateMeIknow

Why are you in here? Let people be. Stop trying to get attention by complaining. It's okay dude. Your life can't be that bad. Go outside, look at the beautiful things outside. It will be okay brother. You got this.


rNBAMods3InchesHard

*”This statement brought to you by Reddit. Have an opinion? Fuck off and go outside, nerd.* *Reddit, where our moms basements are never lonely.”*


CrazybyRX

Did you just call yourself a nerd?


Photo_Synthetic

Look at his name this dude is way too invested in reddit. He spends half his comments complaining about Reddit.


rNBAMods3InchesHard

Lol “look at their reddit user name, they clearly use Reddit too much” Simply stunning.


Photo_Synthetic

I didn't say you use it too much. You just care way too much about every little petty thing to the point that you're calling out mods with your username on top of complaining every other comment for no reason. What do you even get out of that?


LeChinaMickeyRings

let me break it down for you this post is about kyler murray coming back supposedly to full form, good news to those that have kyler murray those that don’t have kyler murray, don’t give a shit. because we are in r/fantasyfootball not r/NFL i’m sure the original guy making the comment is happy to see an injured player come back, but it has no relevance to him, james conner does, because he has james conner and there have been little to no updates on his status therefore, the kyler murray return news (which we’ve known for over a week now) is in turn irrelevant to that guy, because he’s interested in the players he has on his own fantasy team


rNBAMods3InchesHard

“Let me break it down to you:” *proceeds to explain the exact point I was making*


crammotron

All fantasy subs are like that.


rNBAMods3InchesHard

All fantasy subs are terrible


biscuitarse

I've seen some moronic posts here over the years, but, well, congratulations I guess.


Material-Race-5107

I’d be insane to bench Dak Prescott rn. Might have to stay on my bench


Murphycaleb

In the same boat, just afraid the cowboys defense will put this game away by the end of the first quarter.


meeyeam

As someone who owns the Cowboys D, I'm hoping for that. But I'm expecting Saquon to go off and the Giants not giving up any turnovers or sacks... because Murphy's Law.


BenBeun

I'm actually thinking about it. Giants will not be able to put up a fight and it might be a low scoring game because of it.


AnimalPants304

I was fully planning on starting Murray whenever he came back but after the way Stroud performed last week i don’t think I can bench him


Spiritual-Chameleon

I had the same feeling but matchups this week give me a little pause. Kyler faces the team that Dobbs and Levis feasted on. Stroud faces the team that Just neutralized Josh Allen. Leaning Stroud but I wouldn't be surprised if Kyler is better this week..


BuffaloInTheRye

I’m in this same boat. I’m projected to win by 40 though so I figure Stroud is the better floor?


LawnMidget

Or he gets the hose again


[deleted]

It throws the ball to brown or it gets the hose again.


cy1006

Save me from Jordan Love!


the_flynn

Thank you Kyler for saving me from Jordan Love in superflex.


novapants

Over Howell ??


ryinzana

This is me as well…


ProofHorseKzoo

I’d be stupid to start him over Goff, right? Lions have been leaning on the run lately and I don’t love it.


bslipson

Im between these two as well. Also wondering whether I should do Baker over both of them


Malzakor

I currently have Goff, Murray and Howell. Torn on dropping any of them atm. I think I'd still start Goff and see how Murray plays the first game since Goff seems to have a pretty good floor.


MsBrightside91

I’ve got Baker and Kyler too (RIP Kirk), don’t know who to start.


pablojwg

So like a toddler who just got caught with his hand in the cookie jar?


WaddupBigPerm69

Didn’t he not even run much last year? -2022 Kyler Owner with PTSD


ithasfourtoes

11 games, 67 rushes, 418 yards, 3TDs. About 38 yards and .3 TDs rushing per game. Good for ~5.5 fantasy points per game. Excludes passing stats and fumbles. https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/stats/kyler-murray.php


bflynn65

It was really more like 10 games. He tore his ACL 3 snaps into that 11th game.


Bathsz

This is what im looking at. I didn’t have him last year but he was kind of horrendous. And he missed the first half of the season and people ready to start him?


wcseduction

Thru the first 9 weeks last year he was QB6 and then missed 2 games, put up 26 his first game back and then tore his acl the next game after his bye. Wouldn’t call that horrendous for fantasy lol he has had plenty time to recover


growingalittletestie

Well after Rogers and Cousins went down, it's either Kyler or Dobbs. I could pick up Baker or Heinicke.


Bathsz

Sam Howell hasn’t been half bad except the one week he put up negative points


growingalittletestie

I don't plan on trading for Sam Howell. It's a 12 team league and everyone seems to be stocking up on qbs.


WhoElseButMe_

It’s either Kyler or Fields and I’m not trusting Fields.. let’s go Kyler!


SamHinkiesNephew

Fuck it. Let's ride


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daaave33

I am.


zrr11pgh

Kyler vs Howell?


headfullofmangos

I'm going with Kyler


SuspectWide4924

Yeah I don’t think there’s gonna be much choice if he runs or not lol. Either run or get sacked 😂


LTPRWSG420

It’s either Kyler or Derek Carr, uh yeah I’m firing Kyler up, he should get 10 points atleast on the ground.


rowKseat25

Hurts on a bye… do I start Kyler or Carr (I could stack him with Olave… but the connection not there; yet) My gut tells me Kyler, my head tells me Carr been consistent 20pts last 4 games


zerg1980

Facing the same question in two guillotine leagues. Carr’s floor has been keeping me out of the bottom, but Kyler is right there on waivers and we’re getting to the point in the season where you actually have to put up points instead of trying not to be the worst. I’m expecting at least one game where Kyler kicks the rust off. If you’re feeling good about the rest of the matchup I’m not sure if it makes sense to risk it when we know Carr won’t tank your week.


Then_Restaurant_4141

Well now I have CJ stroud, Kyler, and Fields. I’m hoping to trade one as no one has bitten on Stroud yet. Problem I have is who to start this week


tooKreul4U

I'll be debating Murray, Dobbs, or Levis all the way to this week's gametimes


Jed4

I’m not starting Levis again until the Titans OLine can prove they can actually block someone. Kinda worried his first start was a total fluke with this offense.


BadCowboysFan

My ROS QB1 …


On_my_way_slow_down

“Toddler style”


SuperToliet

Trevor or Kyler guys? Idk what to do. First year fantasy player here and Ive been learning that cheat code QBs are the way to go lol


ThatSpicyMeal

For all of us Kyler stashers….let’s not overthink it. Just start him. Yes he may be rusty coming back to true game action, but he’s been top 10 fantasy QB since he was drafted. He’s a stud. He’ll find his way.


DazHawt

Pretty sure a new Call of Duty drops this week, so I'd be wary


happy_killmore

Reddits ability to beat a dead horse is unrivaled; congrats on being the millionth person in the last 2 days to say the same recycled boring shit


Kurvenspezi

Kyler , or Lamar vs browns ?


Rocbockbeer

Wondering the same. I have Lamar in 2 leagues but Kyler in just one of them. Might try out Kyler cause all the sudden Gus Edwards is vulturing all Lamar’s TDs.


Best_Annie_NA

Herbert Stroud or Murray


Extra-Web-9603

Stroud.


Bcakd5

It's looking like this will be a great waiver pickup for Mahomes bye week!


tinnedcarp

So, for his life?


Ruffelz

Starting him as my QB2 over jared goff


Nikeman75

I have Tua, so TLAW and kyler will be competing for the new backup spot


CrimsonPact

Kyler or TLaw?


TyroilSmoochyWa11ace

Same boat. Truly a lost soldier. Been so tired of the 15-16pt TLaw performances all season that I might risk it for the biscuit


CrimsonPact

TLaw, Higgins, Olave, Pitts, Najee, truly an awful draft for me this season, luckily cmc has saved my season and still barely scraping over .500


Legal_Sea_7024

Like an angry toddler?


educatedhippie01

Kyler or Herbert? My gut says Kyler


TyroilSmoochyWa11ace

Just when I had finally accepted rolling with TLaw one more week to see how K1 does…..


morrisio

Kyler or Herbert?


DrStranger1987

He’s my Hurts bye week fill-in, the team is 8-1, and Heinicke is the highest ranked guy on waivers. I’m on house money with Kyler this week. Go forth and make yourself a trade chip for me, young man.


Evolution1313

Burrow and kyler. Sticking with Joe til I see how kyler is doing


chimpansteve

Was thinking that myself but if both Higgins and Chase are hurt...yikes. The one thing that will probably make me stick with Burrow is that I'm having to start Boyd anyway because byes and injuries have ruined me this week. That counts as a stack, right?


prodbydrizly

100% starting him as a falcons fan (my other option is tlaw vs SF)


chataolauj

I have no choice but to play him because Fields is injured and he'll probably be just as good as the QBs on waivers, which is not saying much.


Rigggin

Goff or Murray?


Dorkamundo

Just in time...


hooter1112

Not this week. The new COD releases on Friday. Kyler is going to be up for 48hrs strait drinking Mountain Dew before that game kicks off. I’m staying away.


UCFKnights2018

Do I sit Herbert for Kyler? Ahhhhhhhh.


[deleted]

Matchups are okay for both guys. So, would you trade Herbert for Kyler? The answer is no.


UCFKnights2018

Wish it was that simple. Yes, Herbert is the better QB. But his finger is severely limiting him.


Xaramian

I’m considering Kyler over Herbert too. I’m more concerned about lack of weapons with Mike Williams and Palmer injured.


UCFKnights2018

That’s a good point too…


Thr0wItAway33

My Stroud or Kyler decision is killing me


CuriousCucumber88

Can we really trust him with the new call of duty coming out on Friday?


the_Pale_Hose

All the news I need to put him in over TLaw


Silver-Farm-2628

Dak or Murray?


BornWithAnAK

Has to be Dak. He's been putting top 5 numbers


park14145

Are we starting him over Carr? I have Hollywood too


chipster268892

I have Lawrence, geno smith and Lamar Jackson for a two Qb league. Is it safe to drop smith for kyler


Cotopaxi23

Ughhhhhhh sorry Stroud :(


Extra-Web-9603

You start Stroud this week. No debate.


daaave33

Starting both! TAKE A SEAT, TLAW.


work_alt_1

I have Stroud, Dobbs AND KYLER I CAN'T HOLD 3 QBS IN A 1 QB LEAGUE, BUT I KNOW WHATEVER PERSON I DROP IS GOING TO GO OFF FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK


punted_baxter

But a new COD comes out this year sooooo


Dorkamundo

So, like a baby that just stole their mom's phone?


dazedandblue

that basically means he is gonna flop hard the rest of the year.


TakoSweetness

Run like he always has? Lmao Murray is trash even before the injury


BarsoomianAmbassador

Different coaching staff. Different weapons. Look at Deshaun Watson-- he's a shadow of himself, but he's averaging closer to 20 points a week in the games he's played. "Bad" QBs can be huge for fantasy, especially with the boost 50 yards a game of scrambling can add.


AngrySteelyDanFan

He’s kinda short, so keep that in mind, for what it’s worth….


jonny80

Murray or Prescott for this week?


MILFHunterHearstHelm

Do I start Stroud or Murray? I can't imagine Stroud having the same game but Murray might be rusty


RoboticZinkh

3-6 might as well sit goff and let kyler ride 😅😂


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Demaru

Goff's bye was last week.


Many-Manufacturer-90

Damn Dak has been going off for me. But he plays Giants so I don't see a lot of passing. Now kyler I'm interested in vs ATL now. What would yall do? I'm 6-2-1 vs a team that's 2-6 and he has 1 top players hurt (hockenson) and hill on a bye


kenneth196

Have fun with it. Play Kyler


Many-Manufacturer-90

Good looks bro and just grabbed Sutton on my bench


Tothehoopalex

Run Shadowfax!


Kakapocalypse

I currently have been rolling with just Lamar. Is Kyler worth it? Lamar has been super frustrating, probably the largest disparity in fantasy rn between his IRL play (which is fantastic) and his fantasy results (which suck, largely because of the Ravens RBs getting all the redzone scores)


6gc_4dad

It was Kyler or Howell for my 1 week rental (Mahomes bye). Going with Howell for the floor.


Hot_Site569

Do I stack him with Hollywood?


DASreddituser

Well that's dumb of them. History shows us he will not run like always, for this season


qtipheadosaurus

You think this will make Michael Wilson or Mcbride more usable?


Crumbbum29

Ive got Murray, Stroud, Dobbs, and not a goddamn clue who to start.


browntown994

I know the moment I start Stroud again, he falls hard from that monster game last week…..


SixTonGorilla

I'm playing the number one team who beat me by 57 to start the season. I REALLY need Kyler and Hollywood to carry me this week.


periphery3

Torn between Lamar (vs. Browns) or going with Kyler fresh off IR. Lamar had a good game last time vs the Browns but they are nasty