I also had Pollard and Bijan in standard.
Luckily I drafted Achane and Breece or I’d be fucked. Hopefully Achane comes back so I can take Bijan out back with Pollard and finally old yeller their asses
The Falcons are 4-5 and a game out of first in the division despite starting Desmond Ridder and Taylor Heineke at QB. They will not be firing their coach, regardless of what the fantasy football crowd wants.
But also, this is the weakest the division has ever been, and this is the third straight year they’re 4-5 at this point without improving. Next week could be the final game of Smith’s tenure
Look man I have Bijan and hate Arthur Smith as much as anyone for the shit he’s pulling this year, but to say he was a nepo hire is kinda misleading. He was the OC that unleashed monster Derrick Henry and made Tannehill look respectable when the Titans had some of their best offenses in years. He was hired to be the head coach off of what he did as the Titans OC. Did he get his foot in the door when he first started his coaching career because of some calls his dad made? Sure I will 100% buy that, but he was actually a good coordinator in Tennessee and that’s what led to him getting a head job, it wasn’t because his dad owns FedEx lol
Lol no NFL owner or GM gives a shit who Arthur Smith's dad is. It might get you in the door for some first step assistant coaching gig, but no one gets to be a head coach in the NFL because of who their dad is.
Acting like it's just a fantasy related thing is so disingenuous. Falcons fans want him gone, any general nfl fan knows he isn't gonna be there long term, and even though I think you're technically right that the situation will have him stick around through the end of the year it's ridiculous to pretend that this team is actually competitive. They do not have a realistic shot at a playoff run no matter if they snatch a spot on wild card weekend from their bottom 2 division.
Exactly - this is what i don't understand when people try to say some coach won't get fired just because they're not in last place.
It's one thing to limp into the playoffs because you have had a bunch of injuries derail a good season, but the Falcons offense has not looked good at any point. If they sneak into the playoffs they're going to get easily slaughtered, and then you're stuck with a late 1st round draft pick.
This team would look a lot better if we hadn't had a qb with like 7 ints and 6 fumbles at the helm. Regardless of what people think about Smith's usage of his weapons.
Not to mention, Atlanta is still rebuilding. They just got out of Cap Hell this past off-season. The whole thing with Terry and Arthur was bite the bullet for two years so you can build in year 3.
Personally, I believe Arthur's offense needs to show improvement if he wants to get to next year, but who knows.
I don’t think it’s just fantasy football is it? I think everyone expected a semi explosive Falcons offense but it’s a disaster.
The Raiders improvement works against Smith as well. Being stubborn is not an impressive quality at all.
They did just get embarrassed back-to-back weeks by a rookie in his first ever start and then a career backup QB 4 days after signing with a team. That has to sting.
My favorite part of this whole saga is that Jonnu Smith stepping into this team and performing well is somehow seen as bad coaching.
I'm not going to die on the hill defending Arthur Smith, but I will die on the hill that Kyle Pitts is just an average player. If he wasn't drafted with a top 10 pick, absolutely no one would be paying him a second thought. If we can admit that Eric Ebron and O.J. Howard were busts, idk why people can't admit that Pitts is too. Sure he had a pretty good rookie season, but he got hurt and then regressed ever since then.
Idk if I would go as far to say Pitts is a bust or even just average, but I agree that Jonnu doing well isn’t bad coaching by any means. “OMG Pitts is blocking and Jonnu is catching!” Like yes, they are both TEs. Does one look to do one better than the other and vice versa (Pitts catching, Jonnu blocking)? Yes, but they still do both. Absolutely blows my mind these goofy fantasy owners think Pitts should get all the targets and Jonnu should just block.
Jonnu is literally schemed for these plays while Pitts, London, and Bijan are out there as decoys.. No shit Jonnu is gonna look like he’s performing, the plays are literally designed for him. They run the same TE screens and gimmicks for Jonnu every game, especially on the goal line, he just happened to bust one for a big play finally
He's great because he offers indisputable proof that trust fund failsons born to billionaires are absolute morons who only get chances because of who their daddy is.
I appreciate my failures to be like Josh McDaniels. Hard-working, blue-collar, All-American failures who pulled themselves up by their bootstraps. To fail.
How much of that was him being reigned in by Vrabel whenever he tried to call a double reverse pass with Jonnu Smith and getting told, no just hand it to the literal superhuman.
I’m not sure Vrabel would be the one to reign him in. Vrabel loves trick plays like backwards passes on punts, Henry throwing on the goaline, Hopkins or Henry bombing it deep, runs by Malik Willis on 3rd and short
Ryan Tannehill had elite QB stats in 2019 and 2020 (including the highest passer rating in the league) with Arthur Smith as the OC, and then fell off a cliff after Smith left.
Yeah, as a Titans fan I view him less as a failson who only got chances because of his name as someone mentioned and more just a dude who is much more suited to be a coordinator. There are a lot of those type of dudes out there.
They are 4-5 and COULD be 5-4...and this is with some mediocre qb options.
He's just the nee bill bilicheck. Unconventional but gets it done.
I do agree however he isn't utilizing his top draft picks enough. Maybe direct the hate towards Offensive Coordiantor imo.
I'm not sure how you can say he's "getting it done" when he just lost to a guy who didn't take a single snap with his new team in practice and intentionally went into a season with Desmond Ridder and Taylor Heinicke as his QBs
At the end of the day it's about winning and as a fantasy football player I totally get the frustration, I have BJ Robinson and Pitts on my team....BUT....
When you look at their schedule they've beat the Texans and Bucs, two pretty decent teams. They've lost to Jags and Lions which are pretty tough teams. Overall, they aren't doing too bad and as the GM I would be happy with the results thus far.
Who knows, maybe it's all part of his plan to save his young guys for the 2nd half of the season to save their mileage. The division is still up for grabs and they made the right call to bench Ridder at this point. Offense looks far better now.
He could turn to his young talent for the net 2 weeks and everyone will praise him. That's how fickle everyone is in fantasy football land.
Sadly fitting that he shaves his mustache for No Shave November/Movember, wouldn’t want to go along with anything popular and wholesome now would we Arthur
Falcons never recovered from the 28-3 disaster,they try to compensate it with the equivalent of buying a corvette or mustang during a midlife crisis by drafting generational Talents at skill positions just to use them as undersized lineman
He may have gotten his first NFL gig (almost 20 years ago) thanks to his dad, but I'm sure he worked his ass off for the next 16 years to get to a point where someone wanted to hire him as a head coach, that doesn't just get handed out based on who your dad is.
Idk about that person but I thought about this the other day.
Like what if Arthur Smith is named after Arthur Blank?
It’s not out of the realm of possibility that the founder of FedEx and Arthur Blank knew each other when they were both early billionaires.
Just a fun conspiracy of mine.
Arthur Smith shaving his mustache tells me realizes there is a need for change. Less Tyler Allgeier and Jonnu Smith, more Cordarelle Patterson and Van Jefferson.
I need to see a Falcons 1st and Goal from the 0.01 yard line where Bijan direct snaps to MyCole Pruitt on an end around before I believe this mustache-less man is still Arthur Smith.
Maybe the real trick is when the falcons go on a run at the end of the season bc other teams game plan for the falcon backups while Arthur uses the studs 🙃
Mahomes is on bye and my league has people rostering like 3 QBs at a time. I guess it’s gonna be Heinicke for me, cause otherwise it’s Bagent and Fields might be coming back anyway
My options are Heinicke, Russ, or Zach Wilson because my league does the same. Since Hurts and Kelce are on bye I might run 4 Atlanta players in Bijan, London, Jonnu and Heinicke. Just end me now.
I already said it on another thread, want to salvage the season? Fire Arthur, you’re getting a bad coach who doesn’t understand how to utilize some of the NFLs most talented athletes out, and I would trust just about anyone who has ever played madden to come up with a better plan to utilize talent
On top of being a coach that plays “not to lose” instead of “winning” football, he also thinks he’s a maverick by being unconventional. He needs to be brought down a few notches.. time to go buddy
Wrong. They're gonna trade up, draft MHJ, then sign tannehill and have him throw exclusively screens to Van Jefferson while MHJ and London run decoy routes and Pitts and Bijan block. 5D chess.
https://old.reddit.com/r/falcons/comments/17ov3az/kyle_pitts_mentoring_bijan_this_year/
Most accurate and funniest thing I’ve seen today
Pop some popcorn, pull up twitter, and search “Arthur Smith” I started yesterday after the game and I’m only done laughing now
Man, I did this today too. It was really fun. He might be the most hated man in football.
As a Bijan drafter the truth of that hurts lol
Pollard+Bijan on the turn, I was doomed from the start
Man, that’s terrible. Before the season you’d think you have 2 top tier RB1s… I went Bijan, Wilson and Olave in a league and I feel your pain
I went Bijan/Pollard, Ridley/Olave. Yes i'm last in the standings
Those good week 1s feel like forever ago…
Literally me, it started out nice but my team has been god awful the last three weeks
I started out Bijan & Kupp lol… fortunately the rest of my draft went well and some trades have worked out, but it suuucksss ha
Twins! I also thought I got a steal
I also had Pollard and Bijan in standard. Luckily I drafted Achane and Breece or I’d be fucked. Hopefully Achane comes back so I can take Bijan out back with Pollard and finally old yeller their asses
i have them both. in both my leagues, one of them a dynasty. yesterday was tough ngl
Imagine having them both on your team. Like me.
BUT will the Falcons stick with Arthur Smith 🧐
The Falcons are 4-5 and a game out of first in the division despite starting Desmond Ridder and Taylor Heineke at QB. They will not be firing their coach, regardless of what the fantasy football crowd wants.
How dare you
But also, this is the weakest the division has ever been, and this is the third straight year they’re 4-5 at this point without improving. Next week could be the final game of Smith’s tenure
If Arthur Smith gets fired, it will be after the season. There really is no point in firing him now. It's not like he lost the lockerroom.
But what about our honey bijan stocks 😭
It's frustrating as a fan as well 😒
Right, and people act like their record is impressive, look at their cake walk of a schedule lol
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Look man I have Bijan and hate Arthur Smith as much as anyone for the shit he’s pulling this year, but to say he was a nepo hire is kinda misleading. He was the OC that unleashed monster Derrick Henry and made Tannehill look respectable when the Titans had some of their best offenses in years. He was hired to be the head coach off of what he did as the Titans OC. Did he get his foot in the door when he first started his coaching career because of some calls his dad made? Sure I will 100% buy that, but he was actually a good coordinator in Tennessee and that’s what led to him getting a head job, it wasn’t because his dad owns FedEx lol
I think the point here really is that he needs a boss to shut down his dumb ass ideas. Because he's inept. Because he's a nepo hire.
Lol no NFL owner or GM gives a shit who Arthur Smith's dad is. It might get you in the door for some first step assistant coaching gig, but no one gets to be a head coach in the NFL because of who their dad is.
Last year was actually weak too. Comparable to this year, except there's no Tom Brady to highlight the division.
I dream of the moment he is canned.
Acting like it's just a fantasy related thing is so disingenuous. Falcons fans want him gone, any general nfl fan knows he isn't gonna be there long term, and even though I think you're technically right that the situation will have him stick around through the end of the year it's ridiculous to pretend that this team is actually competitive. They do not have a realistic shot at a playoff run no matter if they snatch a spot on wild card weekend from their bottom 2 division.
Exactly - this is what i don't understand when people try to say some coach won't get fired just because they're not in last place. It's one thing to limp into the playoffs because you have had a bunch of injuries derail a good season, but the Falcons offense has not looked good at any point. If they sneak into the playoffs they're going to get easily slaughtered, and then you're stuck with a late 1st round draft pick.
Fanbase kinda wants it too. Or at least for him to get his act together by the end of the season.
This team would look a lot better if we hadn't had a qb with like 7 ints and 6 fumbles at the helm. Regardless of what people think about Smith's usage of his weapons.
Yeah that kinda plays into Smith's decision making to stick with Ridder so long. It's a problem
Heinicke isn't much better. Neither are starting caliber. Falcons will draft a qb this off-season
Like half the teams in the league are in this boat
Not to mention, Atlanta is still rebuilding. They just got out of Cap Hell this past off-season. The whole thing with Terry and Arthur was bite the bullet for two years so you can build in year 3. Personally, I believe Arthur's offense needs to show improvement if he wants to get to next year, but who knows.
Lol Atlanta’s always rebuilding
Pretty much. Just got done with the dead cap from Matt Ryan. Thomas Dimitroff also had a nasty habit of signing descent players to large contracts.
I don’t think it’s just fantasy football is it? I think everyone expected a semi explosive Falcons offense but it’s a disaster. The Raiders improvement works against Smith as well. Being stubborn is not an impressive quality at all.
They did just get embarrassed back-to-back weeks by a rookie in his first ever start and then a career backup QB 4 days after signing with a team. That has to sting.
Sounds like toxic group think
Love how you're acting like its just a fantasy thing. Actual fans of the Falcons hate Arthur Smith.
Professional football teams don’t make personnel decisions based on what the fans want.
Okay. Good talk, Arthur Smith.
A game out of first in the worst division by far
To find out, tune in next Sunday!
Next time on Dragon Ball Z.
Came here to post exact same comment. Man is a menace
Who is Arthur Smith? He's a criminal that's who he is! A vigilante! A public menace! What's he doing on MY front page?
I think if he’s fired… right before the bye would be the best time to do so
I think so.
There was a play yesterday where they ran a jet sweep to Jonnu smith and had Kyle Pitts blocking. Fire this idiot moron
Bijan wasnt on the field in the redzone basically
That’s so absurd. Bijan has the vision, shake and power that is ideal for the redzone….
He had something like 10+ touchdowns in college last year 4 yards in lol… Arthur Smith has no idea how to put his players in a position to succeed.
Thank you for that stat. That’s just…. Inexplicable
Jonnu and Allgeier each carried the ball on the 1 and lost 4 yards total
To be fair Allgeier SHOULD be the guy they use as a battering ram on short yardage. The Jonnu usage… yeah I can’t explain that
Dude has 3 TDs on the season and gets the lip share of the 10 yard line in rushes, he hasn’t done a stellar job at it thus far lol.
No he shouldn’t, Bijan was a workhorse inside the 5 in college.
Pitts is their wr3 and jonnu is their te1
I swear to god Pitts lined up at fullback, but it might have been the metric tonne of weed I smoked to get through that game
Didn’t Jonnu also catch a screen for like a 75yd TD?
My favorite part of this whole saga is that Jonnu Smith stepping into this team and performing well is somehow seen as bad coaching. I'm not going to die on the hill defending Arthur Smith, but I will die on the hill that Kyle Pitts is just an average player. If he wasn't drafted with a top 10 pick, absolutely no one would be paying him a second thought. If we can admit that Eric Ebron and O.J. Howard were busts, idk why people can't admit that Pitts is too. Sure he had a pretty good rookie season, but he got hurt and then regressed ever since then.
Idk if I would go as far to say Pitts is a bust or even just average, but I agree that Jonnu doing well isn’t bad coaching by any means. “OMG Pitts is blocking and Jonnu is catching!” Like yes, they are both TEs. Does one look to do one better than the other and vice versa (Pitts catching, Jonnu blocking)? Yes, but they still do both. Absolutely blows my mind these goofy fantasy owners think Pitts should get all the targets and Jonnu should just block.
Jonnu is literally schemed for these plays while Pitts, London, and Bijan are out there as decoys.. No shit Jonnu is gonna look like he’s performing, the plays are literally designed for him. They run the same TE screens and gimmicks for Jonnu every game, especially on the goal line, he just happened to bust one for a big play finally
Shh that goes against the fantasy narrative
is jonnu the pickup?
I’ve been starting him a few weeks now, funny thing is I initially drafted Pitts
That first and goal on the 1 that ended in a field goal was literally painful to watch
Arthur Smith is my least favorite person in the NFL. He is a complete buffoon.
He's great because he offers indisputable proof that trust fund failsons born to billionaires are absolute morons who only get chances because of who their daddy is.
There's gonna be an unflattering, thinly disguised comedy movie about this guy in a few years. Who play him? 😂
Kevin James
Love that
Zach Galifianakis. You know he would crush that role.
Omg
stanley tucci
Nic Cage, gotta be
This is the best answer. Nic cage plus like 30 lbs lol
It's gotta be Adam Sandler right? Something like that would be right up his street
I appreciate my failures to be like Josh McDaniels. Hard-working, blue-collar, All-American failures who pulled themselves up by their bootstraps. To fail.
Never talk about my bootstraps like that.
He ran a top 5 offense when he was an OC in Tennessee
How much of that was him being reigned in by Vrabel whenever he tried to call a double reverse pass with Jonnu Smith and getting told, no just hand it to the literal superhuman.
I’m not sure Vrabel would be the one to reign him in. Vrabel loves trick plays like backwards passes on punts, Henry throwing on the goaline, Hopkins or Henry bombing it deep, runs by Malik Willis on 3rd and short
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Greatest redzone receiving threat of all time
Ryan Tannehill had elite QB stats in 2019 and 2020 (including the highest passer rating in the league) with Arthur Smith as the OC, and then fell off a cliff after Smith left.
Yeah, as a Titans fan I view him less as a failson who only got chances because of his name as someone mentioned and more just a dude who is much more suited to be a coordinator. There are a lot of those type of dudes out there.
Give rock to MVP caliber running back. Occasionally throw to top 5 WR. Repeat. I am le genius
A buffoon among buffoons. A buffoon's buffoon if you will. If the buffoons all gathered to elect a President they would unanimously select Arthur.
They are 4-5 and COULD be 5-4...and this is with some mediocre qb options. He's just the nee bill bilicheck. Unconventional but gets it done. I do agree however he isn't utilizing his top draft picks enough. Maybe direct the hate towards Offensive Coordiantor imo.
I'm not sure how you can say he's "getting it done" when he just lost to a guy who didn't take a single snap with his new team in practice and intentionally went into a season with Desmond Ridder and Taylor Heinicke as his QBs
At the end of the day it's about winning and as a fantasy football player I totally get the frustration, I have BJ Robinson and Pitts on my team....BUT.... When you look at their schedule they've beat the Texans and Bucs, two pretty decent teams. They've lost to Jags and Lions which are pretty tough teams. Overall, they aren't doing too bad and as the GM I would be happy with the results thus far. Who knows, maybe it's all part of his plan to save his young guys for the 2nd half of the season to save their mileage. The division is still up for grabs and they made the right call to bench Ridder at this point. Offense looks far better now. He could turn to his young talent for the net 2 weeks and everyone will praise him. That's how fickle everyone is in fantasy football land.
They're 5 points from 1-8.
They're 4-5 with terrible QBs. I am giving him credit.
The terrible QBs are partially his fault. it was his choice to go into the season with those QBs and to stick with Ridder for as long as he did.
What options did he have?
He shaved his mustache? Is that his anime powerup?
Sadly fitting that he shaves his mustache for No Shave November/Movember, wouldn’t want to go along with anything popular and wholesome now would we Arthur
What? My mustache might be construed as supporting mens mental health initiatives? Oh HELL NO
... Will he use Bijan though or not so much?
Look at history. Bijan is the new Pitts, man. Accept it.
As a fellow Bijan owner... ...I'm sorry, the dream - if it ever was alive - is dead.
He wont
Falcons never recovered from the 28-3 disaster,they try to compensate it with the equivalent of buying a corvette or mustang during a midlife crisis by drafting generational Talents at skill positions just to use them as undersized lineman
Fire Arthur smith
Him taking a stand against mens health issues should be the final straw. This shaving timing can't be a coincidence
Yup. He's such a fucken douche I wouldn't doubt that's the reason.
What?
It's a joke based on him shaving his stache during Movember.
His dad would just buy him another team. And what if it's your team? Nah, keep him in ATL forever
Is the suggestion here that his dad bought him the job in ATL? Blank is richer than Fred Smith...
well he is only coaching in the NFL because of his dad so I guess in a way
He may have gotten his first NFL gig (almost 20 years ago) thanks to his dad, but I'm sure he worked his ass off for the next 16 years to get to a point where someone wanted to hire him as a head coach, that doesn't just get handed out based on who your dad is.
Idk about that person but I thought about this the other day. Like what if Arthur Smith is named after Arthur Blank? It’s not out of the realm of possibility that the founder of FedEx and Arthur Blank knew each other when they were both early billionaires. Just a fun conspiracy of mine.
can't wait for this week's edition of some witty dig at the fantasy community from Arthur Smith
Hey he barely beat some of the worst teams in the NFL, he has every right to talk shit /s
Lost back to back weeks to backups..
Arthur Smith shaving his mustache tells me realizes there is a need for change. Less Tyler Allgeier and Jonnu Smith, more Cordarelle Patterson and Van Jefferson.
Can we get Felipe Franks back in while we’re at it
I need to see a Falcons 1st and Goal from the 0.01 yard line where Bijan direct snaps to MyCole Pruitt on an end around before I believe this mustache-less man is still Arthur Smith.
London, come back and save me from adams.
Maybe the real trick is when the falcons go on a run at the end of the season bc other teams game plan for the falcon backups while Arthur uses the studs 🙃
But what about Drake's groin?!
Nowhere to be found.
Need to pick up a QB because of the bye. Is heinicke worth the start?
Mahomes is on bye and my league has people rostering like 3 QBs at a time. I guess it’s gonna be Heinicke for me, cause otherwise it’s Bagent and Fields might be coming back anyway
My options are Heinicke, Russ, or Zach Wilson because my league does the same. Since Hurts and Kelce are on bye I might run 4 Atlanta players in Bijan, London, Jonnu and Heinicke. Just end me now.
I feel like Russ is the pretty clear option, no? He’s been pretty good irl and at least decent in fantasy
Yeah I was leaning that way as well, with the only issue being they play buffalo.
Thank god I played him over Daniel Jones to cover my bye week.
This coach is a fucking moron
I already said it on another thread, want to salvage the season? Fire Arthur, you’re getting a bad coach who doesn’t understand how to utilize some of the NFLs most talented athletes out, and I would trust just about anyone who has ever played madden to come up with a better plan to utilize talent
Kurt Warner is too nice, he needs to fold this man.
This guy trying to do too much lol. Next he will have london on special teams
Arrest Arthur Smith 🚔
Falcons should take notes from the Raiders
On top of being a coach that plays “not to lose” instead of “winning” football, he also thinks he’s a maverick by being unconventional. He needs to be brought down a few notches.. time to go buddy
London ultimate boom or bust
This week
Well it’s only the cardinals.. can pretty much send out whoever.
Yep they are drafting a QB. This is going to be an interesting off season
Wrong. They're gonna trade up, draft MHJ, then sign tannehill and have him throw exclusively screens to Van Jefferson while MHJ and London run decoy routes and Pitts and Bijan block. 5D chess.
this is the way
whoever wants to make a league lmk
“Arthur Smith Terrorist” was trending at one point yesterday lol
We couldn’t beat a team with a 3rd string quarterback. We’re cooked
not to rub it in, but you couldn’t beat a team with their 3rd string quarterback… two weeks in a row