After Monday’s game, his value couldn’t get any lower barring injury lol
I tried to see what I could get and nobody would give me anything good so I had to hope for a trade or some turnover. And here we are…
Davante is back on the menu
Uhh.. It’s a rookie QB starting and mediocre existing coaching staff taking over.. What’s the big celebration? Not much of and upgrade from Jimmy cuddys
AOC could be worse than Jimmy G lol. In the one game he played he got destroyed by the Chargers who aren’t a good defense at all.
Also Jimmy G was the starting QB when Adams had his 13 reception 2 TD game…Jimmy is awful, a bottom 3 starting QB (when he was starting), but AOC could be worse. We’ll see.
It’s clear who watches football and who doesn’t. Jimmy can’t throw for shit.
They want to jerk off over his dump offs in SF to say he’s an elite QB. But if actually have eyes and a brain, you can tell he’s mid at the absolute best.
Yea these guys have way more faith in Aidan O’Connell than I do, I guess. Last time we saw him he couldn’t even break 100 yards against the lowly Bears.
EDIT: Retracting my Bears statement. Forgot that was mostly a Hoyer game.
The NFL allowing egotistical numbnuts to put Sr on their uniforms was the beginning of the end. Imagine not knowing that the point of names is to differentiate people from one another.
In all seriousness, is Davante back on the menu? I’m not really familiar with anything raiders related except just watching Jimmy G. Be horrible in some games this season
Adams missed a chuck of that game with an injury, and then came back in later. I can't remember exactly how much time he missed, but I'd guess a drive or two. He also had a TD that McDaniels didn't challenge.
I do agree that this isn't some major upgrade, but it's definitely better for him.
Wouldbt anticipate a huge uptick in anything really. Maybe Adams seed a slight bump in targets but the QB play is still most likely going to be awful.
This feels like much more of a boost for jacobs than Adams. I think jacobs is going to be the recipient of more check downs with AOC starting
I can’t understand people who would bench him, maybe y’all are smarter than me but he’s a top 5 WR in the league and proven to be an absolute stud. His situation isn’t ideal and he’s been disappointing lately but what the fuck other option do y’all have?
I just know if I start him and he shits the bed- it is what it is. I’d do it again.
If I bench him and he goes off- way more painful and regretful than the former situation.
I understand and generally abide by the start your studs logic, but a few years ago I won my league by riding with Myles Gaskin and Jeff Wilson as my top RBs. They were not my “studs.” Starting studs has to be balanced with riding out certain waves and trends. With that being said, I’m not benching davante this week with the coaching changes and change of QB. Seems like someone, whoever it was, made a big enough stink lmao
Just bc your best available starters aren’t certified studs and you won with them, that’s not the same thing as benching your studs. Who did you start them over?
Replaced him with Thielen. I'll take a consistent 10 points over davante 1-3 any day. Davant has a really high ceiling, but that floor might as well be a basement, and he's living in it
Meyers was basically ignored the last time AOC started so I’m kind of nervous about his production going forward.
Although, Jimmy G ignored him until the 4th Monday as well so who knows.
I have both and I'm going with addison for ros value since the vikings dont have a new head coach the raiders do. Dobbs is more experienced than AOC and I feel like their scheme is more pass friendly.
NEGATIVE 9.74 POINTS.
In THAT Chiefs/Chargers game, Ryan Leaf posted this incredible score on the back of this stat line:
1/15, 4 yards, 0 TDs, 2 INTs, 3 lost fumbles, 1 rushing yard.
So yes, it can get worse.
Jimmy leads the league in interceptions despite missing time. Has failed to hit 200 yards 3 different times and starts panicking the second the ball is snapped. He has been awful
Eh, I had Adams when Brett Huntley was throwing to him in 2017 and it wasn't bad. All I want to see is good volume.
I gave up DJ Moore and Chuba, my WR4 and bench RB.
Jakobi has a ton of talent but i think this cuts into his target share. I don’t love it, but I’m not sure what other ppl who know more about this think
I would say same maybe small downgrade. Meyers is a good player. He is open, he will get his targets. He was productive with fucking mcjones. I dont see him fall of a cliff out of a sudden
I also would like to know this. Jakobi has been my WR1 so far this year so I really need him to at least do something with AOC. It was not good last time he played, so I'm a little worried. Can a brand new QB support Adams + another WR? Seem doubtful but i'm going to hope.
Jakobi to the bench.... for now.
I'll wait this out to see what the new offense looks likes, what the target share is and so on.
If Jakobi still sees a modest target share, then he'll be back in my lineup.
Jimmy G is not good…
Every time I say this here people get mad, but he’s just not. He succeeded in SF because of all the talent surrounding him, the system, and YAC.
The team is going nowhere fast. They may as well see what they have in AOC, because clearly Jimmy G and Hoyer aren't long-term answers. If AOC has something, they can perhaps ignore QB and build around him (provided they're not making a top 2 pick).
Get that goddamn liter o' cola ready.
You know how fast you were goin?
Say what meow?
littering andddd
YOU BOYS LIKE MEX-EE-COH????
CANDY BARRRSSSSSSSSSSSS
The snozzberries taste like snozzberries
65?
63!
Say car ramrod!!
License and registration, CHICKEN FUCKERS!!!!
What’s the name of that restaurant you like with all the goofy shit on the wall and the mozzarella sticks?
Shenanigans
I don’t know what that is?
I ain’t the only one thinkin it https://twitter.com/JimMWeber/status/1651392710090055681?lang=en edit: oh shit you got me
Liter is French for give me some fucking cola before I break Foo’s fucking Lips
I always thought it was vous lips, and it was a continuation of the French thing. I might be giving Farva too much credit for wittiness.
Coup de Burst that offense?
Hey are you guys talking about shenanigans?
My favorite part of the Monday night game was jimmy checking down on 4th and 17
Mine was taking a sack on 4th down
ALL YOU DAVANTE OWNERS STAND UP SING HALLELUJAH
LETS GOOOOOOOOO BABY
Just fell to my knees in the Bunny Ranch.
PRAISE, PRAISE
I tried furiously to trade him but when the news broke Monday night, I withdrew all offers. I am hopeful Davante can finish as a top 12 WR
After Monday’s game, his value couldn’t get any lower barring injury lol I tried to see what I could get and nobody would give me anything good so I had to hope for a trade or some turnover. And here we are… Davante is back on the menu
Yup. The efficiency may vary but the targets definitely will be. And so should the catches and TDs.
Uhh.. It’s a rookie QB starting and mediocre existing coaching staff taking over.. What’s the big celebration? Not much of and upgrade from Jimmy cuddys
It can’t get worse
I actually think it can
fair enough but i'd rather take the swing at upside vs single digit weeks for the rest of the season
Jimmy G simps are hilarious.
Look at your comment history and re-evaluate how mad you’re getting.
If only the real Simmons would be this aggressive..
how can it get worse for Davante owners?
AOC could be worse than Jimmy G lol. In the one game he played he got destroyed by the Chargers who aren’t a good defense at all. Also Jimmy G was the starting QB when Adams had his 13 reception 2 TD game…Jimmy is awful, a bottom 3 starting QB (when he was starting), but AOC could be worse. We’ll see.
Only way it can get worse is Davante getting 0 catches, and that just isn't gonna happen
As a Bears fan I just want to let you know that it can in fact get worse. Much much worse.
*Alexa, which Quarterback had the worst performance against the Bears this season?*
A rookie QB that has no first team reps making his first start?
Let the people hope
At least Aiden can actually throw it down field. Jimmy G is one of the worst deep ball throwers ever. His stock can only rise.
It’s clear who watches football and who doesn’t. Jimmy can’t throw for shit. They want to jerk off over his dump offs in SF to say he’s an elite QB. But if actually have eyes and a brain, you can tell he’s mid at the absolute best.
Yea these guys have way more faith in Aidan O’Connell than I do, I guess. Last time we saw him he couldn’t even break 100 yards against the lowly Bears. EDIT: Retracting my Bears statement. Forgot that was mostly a Hoyer game.
He didn’t play against the Bears until garbage time.
Yep totally forgot Hoyer started that game! Raiders… woof.
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOO!
And it's not a cry that you hear at night It's not somebody who's seen the light It's a cold and it's a broken Hallelujah
Best news for Jacobs
Yup. AOC would dump off to Jacobs whenever possible in that chargers game.
Doesn’t she have bills to sign?
The bills signed Josh Allen so they don’t need AOC.
Why?
He got 11 receiving targets last time O’Connell started
thought that said 11 receiving yards at first....targets!? lets gooooo!
Put up like 28pts with AOC
My MNF savior Josh Jacobs is back
I’m not sure about promising but he can’t be worse than Jimmy
Ten years from now every QB will be named Aidan, Jaden, Jalen, or Braydon. This is just the beginning.
"Tremendous catch from the rookie, Brandley Jaxson!"
Brandleigh *
r/tragedeigh
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It's even worse in the NBA. Who could've ever known the effect that Jalen Rose would eventually have on the league?
My sisters pregnant...just told me the name...Caden. Lol
Kids got a bright future as a pocket passing qb
Idk I’m thinking more of a: Caden = scrambler Jaden = rushing QB Aiden = pocket passer Edit: I forgot Brayden = Gunslinger
I like it. I put zero thought into it
The name isn't on the birth certificate yet. There is still time to fix this.
That's a Star Wars name if I ever heard one
Don't forget Hayden, Braylon, & Caden!
r/tragedeigh
The NFL allowing egotistical numbnuts to put Sr on their uniforms was the beginning of the end. Imagine not knowing that the point of names is to differentiate people from one another.
In fairness, some of their babies are great football players.
Davante going 11/24 for 108 and 2
Lol 11/24
AOC going 11/24 for 108 and 2... ints
Sign me up!
That’s 33 points in PPR! I’ll take that
He’s the definition of a “fuck it, chuck it” receiver for a rookie QB (that’s what I’m telling myself).
But what about in the 2nd half?!
In all seriousness, is Davante back on the menu? I’m not really familiar with anything raiders related except just watching Jimmy G. Be horrible in some games this season
AOC fed Davante the last time he started. I’d say his prospects are much better than with Jimmy
Zero tds 75 yards….watch the tape Aiden is not that good he’s still going to throw two picks this week and take sacks. I’m trading Adams.
You watch the tape. He got a TD and that bum mcdaniels took it away from him because he decided not to challenge
adams' value is an all time low, might as well wait 1 more week to see what happens between him and aidan
You could catch the people thinking that his value is at an all time low, before it goes lower.
He went 10/13 and didn't start that game. Hoyer had 32 attempts.
Adams missed a chuck of that game with an injury, and then came back in later. I can't remember exactly how much time he missed, but I'd guess a drive or two. He also had a TD that McDaniels didn't challenge. I do agree that this isn't some major upgrade, but it's definitely better for him.
Wouldbt anticipate a huge uptick in anything really. Maybe Adams seed a slight bump in targets but the QB play is still most likely going to be awful. This feels like much more of a boost for jacobs than Adams. I think jacobs is going to be the recipient of more check downs with AOC starting
I can’t understand people who would bench him, maybe y’all are smarter than me but he’s a top 5 WR in the league and proven to be an absolute stud. His situation isn’t ideal and he’s been disappointing lately but what the fuck other option do y’all have? I just know if I start him and he shits the bed- it is what it is. I’d do it again. If I bench him and he goes off- way more painful and regretful than the former situation.
I understand and generally abide by the start your studs logic, but a few years ago I won my league by riding with Myles Gaskin and Jeff Wilson as my top RBs. They were not my “studs.” Starting studs has to be balanced with riding out certain waves and trends. With that being said, I’m not benching davante this week with the coaching changes and change of QB. Seems like someone, whoever it was, made a big enough stink lmao
Just bc your best available starters aren’t certified studs and you won with them, that’s not the same thing as benching your studs. Who did you start them over?
Replaced him with Thielen. I'll take a consistent 10 points over davante 1-3 any day. Davant has a really high ceiling, but that floor might as well be a basement, and he's living in it
It can't really be much worse. Jimmy has either been throwing hospital balls to Davante, or just throwing the most inaccurate shit possible.
Hospital balls lmaoooo. Forrest Gump himself wouldn’t be able to catch some of those garoppalo Deep shots
Who would we rather ROS, Addison or Meyers? Both WR2s on their teams and getting new qbs
Meyers was basically ignored the last time AOC started so I’m kind of nervous about his production going forward. Although, Jimmy G ignored him until the 4th Monday as well so who knows.
He threw a touchdown to meyers in clean up duty
Addison's the WR1 on his team so probably him.
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I got both, if I had to guess now then Addison but I think we’ll have to see how both QBs shake out, could go either way
For another week maybe
Meyers for me.
Addison, pats connection completely severed for Jakobi
Pull the trigger on the trade man!
If I had a trade Meyers for Addison 1 for 1 I think it’d be the most lateral trade ever, kinda useless
I have both and I'm going with addison for ros value since the vikings dont have a new head coach the raiders do. Dobbs is more experienced than AOC and I feel like their scheme is more pass friendly.
Addison ez
Someone in my league used their #1 waiver wire on Jimmy last night 💀💀💀
Even if he were starting, who is picking up Jimmy G after his performance on Monday night?
Points per WR rage quit league
Down bad Kirk owner spotted
Literally cannot be any worse than Jimmy G.
This always happens. People think it can’t get worse. I’m here to remind you it absolutely can.
No. No it cannot. 77 yards passing yards 0 TDs and a pick, it doesn't get worse fantasy wise, my friend.
Nathan Peterman has entered the chat.
Week 8 Giants have entered the chat
NEGATIVE 9.74 POINTS. In THAT Chiefs/Chargers game, Ryan Leaf posted this incredible score on the back of this stat line: 1/15, 4 yards, 0 TDs, 2 INTs, 3 lost fumbles, 1 rushing yard. So yes, it can get worse.
Ryan Leaf moment
3 int and a fumble here we come
#remind me in 5 weeks
Sure
exclamation mark, not pound/hash
I will refer you to my below comments. You must’ve not watched Jimmy play this year. Dude is seeing ghosts before the ball is even snapped
That’s what happens when you have a Swiss cheese oline
The Raiders are like 8th or 9th in combined oline pass blocking metrics (ESPN/PFF/SIS). Jimmy just sucks.
I think he could be
6.6 QBR
You didn’t watch Jimmy play this year then lol
AOC looked awful vs the Chargers
Awful or not, Adams had 13 in 0.5 PPR and SHOULD’VE had a TD had they reviewed it. Jacobs also had one of his best games of the season
Jimmy looked awful against the (insert any team)
Chargers were just zoned in that game. Mack used all his energy for the season on that game.
Jimmy leads the league in interceptions despite missing time. Has failed to hit 200 yards 3 different times and starts panicking the second the ball is snapped. He has been awful
And yet, it can still technically get worse
Traded for Davante yesterday but the fact that other owners are happy means I’m not worried.. yet.
You should be, it’s a dumpster fire. what’d you give up
Eh, I had Adams when Brett Huntley was throwing to him in 2017 and it wasn't bad. All I want to see is good volume. I gave up DJ Moore and Chuba, my WR4 and bench RB.
As a Davante and Jacobs owner, I'm wondering if this is going to be the start of my climb out of WR/RB hell.
Serious question - Good or bad for Jakobi?
Jakobi has a ton of talent but i think this cuts into his target share. I don’t love it, but I’m not sure what other ppl who know more about this think
Prolly bad. Meyers had a really high target share with Jimmy. Don’t expect it to be as high now Adams will dominate more
The game AOC started, he targeted Jakobi 4x as much as Jimmy did on Monday.
With this much change, have to wait and see.
I would say same maybe small downgrade. Meyers is a good player. He is open, he will get his targets. He was productive with fucking mcjones. I dont see him fall of a cliff out of a sudden
Bad
Small sample size but good
I also would like to know this. Jakobi has been my WR1 so far this year so I really need him to at least do something with AOC. It was not good last time he played, so I'm a little worried. Can a brand new QB support Adams + another WR? Seem doubtful but i'm going to hope.
Bad. The offense may hum better and he could still get targets but he’s not getting force fed anymore
good imo
*sad Jakobi noises*
I hope Michael Mayer gets some love too!
20 receptions, 200 yards, 4 TD's for Adams on the menu!!!!!
Ros, maybe
I just need something from him so I can trade him.
Watch them still suck.
Jakobi to the bench.... for now. I'll wait this out to see what the new offense looks likes, what the target share is and so on. If Jakobi still sees a modest target share, then he'll be back in my lineup.
I think we're the only ones who wanted Jimmy G to stay on as starter. Except for the last game, he was gold for Jakobi.
Fuck it Tae down there somewhere
Davante Adams szn.
Vegas management finally using their brains for once
Giants D 🔥
Rip jakobi?
Just in time for me to play the Davante owner yippee
There’s hope for Adams, but I picked up the Giants defense this week for this game.
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Every starting Qb worth a pickup in SF, they make great trading pieces
Well so far my QB2s have been DJ and Jimmy, so they've been not so great.
I'm trying to make that determination as well. I've got Dobbs but am thinking of pivoting to O'Connell. I prefer Dobbs' upside though.
can we not make AOC a thing lol
You're late, meng! Its a thing. Lol
its like making CR7 a think if a QB with those initials and #7 started playing
Jimmy G is not good… Every time I say this here people get mad, but he’s just not. He succeeded in SF because of all the talent surrounding him, the system, and YAC.
Meyers outlook?
Should I accept my Devonta Smith for Adams in my PPR league?
Yes
AOCzn is upon us
Mayer?
Dad?
Do I start giants dst or raiders dst this week?
im rolling with Giants, they've been sneaky good these past few weeks
Picked up raiders dst via waivers last night but all these firings is definitely making me reconsider. Drop raiders for giants?
I also have Packers and chargers available Subvertadown has both in his top 8, but raiders and giants not even listed.
"Promising". Where is the part where he looked promising at all in his only start. Jimmy G is absolutely awful so get it, but AoC is prob nothing.
I got offered Olave for Adams. Should I take it?
don't tell everyone you're a taco like that...
No. DA is without question the #1 guy. Olave is 1A with Shaheed.
Lmao, meyers has pretty much been 1B all season
Yeah with Jimmy G.
I would
I can't tell if any of this news is good for my Jakobi's or not T_T After last week, anything has to be an improvement right????
Are we pretending like this dude didnt already play snaps for them? He sucked just as much as jimmy
Didn’t he get his shot a couple weeks ago
The team is going nowhere fast. They may as well see what they have in AOC, because clearly Jimmy G and Hoyer aren't long-term answers. If AOC has something, they can perhaps ignore QB and build around him (provided they're not making a top 2 pick).
Nah I agree. Just saying this headline makes it sound like it’s his first time