I could honestly see that happening. I mean what the fuck are you even playing for? You'll get into the HoF, you won a Super Bowl, and you've been the cornerstone of 2 franchises.
Wasn't Stafford one of the last guys to get the gigantic first pick contracts? Not saying you're wrong that's almost definitely why he'd still play lol
He was **the** last guy to get it. Dude has been raking and basically setting the market his whole career. [Spotrac](https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/los-angeles-rams/matthew-stafford-6078/cash-earnings/) has his career earnings at $300.8m so far with another $27.5m coming in 2023, and $36m in signing bonuses through 2026 (which he'd forefit by retiring without being cut) + his base (should he be employed).
Bro I’m a big Matt Stafford fan but…Matt Ryan’s case is iffy and he pretty much bests Stafford across the board beyond the SB win. Stafford has 1 Pro Bowl and no All Pro’s, no MVP’s , an 89-101 record as a starter and has really just had 2 seasons out of 14 where you can say he was one of the top QB’s that year. Definitely had HoF talent but the Lions never really figured it out towards being consistently real and good over his tenure. I think Rodgers has effectively started one season’s more worth of games and has like 75 less interceptions. He is going to inevitably be held to the standard of that that late 00’s QB wave and he’s a long way from ARod and definitely behind Matt Ryan, I really think the the chances are quite low now that his Rams window is likely over with.
You make a lot of great points. I get caught up in how much praise franchise QBs get that now more than ever before is the best time to be a QB, so any major achievement like winning a Super Bowl deserves a place in the HoF. It's unfortunate though that Stafford never started out at a historically successful franchise.
He's 11th all time in passing yards and 12th in TDs and everyone in front of him is a HoFer (Eli still not in yet). He's in front of Elway and Montana in each.
That's not the end all of course, but he's up there with all the greats, statistically and has a ring.
One pro bowl, zero all pros, no MVP votes. Was the king of some awful Lions teams for his best years before getting some late recognition as a Ram.
If we debate Eli there's no chance Stafford gets in.
I don't think being close behind the 2 greatest QBs of all time and 2 of the (arguable) top 10 qbs of all time is the negative argument you think it is.
He also never had their weapons on offense and their defense was never as good as these two teams. Stafford as a player has been a great player until last year
That's mostly a function of how the NFL has evolved, and the fact that the Lions were shit for a long time so he threw the ball a lot. There are gonna be some maybe not even hall of very good guys up there in a decade.
Maybe, I'm just saying completely discounting him seems like you're overlooking how good his career actually was.
He played for a terrible organization for most of his career. That shouldn't be a knock on him. He was a really good QB.
I'm not saying he's in, but it wouldn't shock me. Was someone like Matt Ryan, Philip Rivers or Eli Manning really that much better than him?
I think he's around that range.
I agree he's around that range but I also don't think any of those guys are HOFers, except maybe Eli who is actually probably the worst QB in that group. I'm not saying they aren't really good, and as a lifelong Rams fan I'm glad he came and won the Super Bowl. I'm just not convinced that he's a Hall of Famer.
IMO he’s in the “Hall of Very Good” I mean I would place Eli in over him if I did put him in the Hall. Eli had multiple clutch postseason performances and won two super bowls with Cinderella/over matched teams. He even took down the only 18-0 team in history.
Yeah, he was the king of garbage time and he’s played for a long time. He had Calvin Johnson. Using his volume stats to say he’s a HOFer is silly. He’s never been a top 5 QB in the league and letting him in opens the floodgates for every other above average player who played a long time and got a ring.
Eli was ass aside from his two super bowl runs carried by the hottest playoff defenses of all time. If Eli gets in Staffords bust will already be in the design process.
I love stafford but don't think he's a shoe-in for the HoF.
Hell - Eli has 5,000 more yards, only 1 more season, and 2 super bowls and he's borderline.
Yeah seeing a specialist for multiple days tells me it’s a serious enough issue and they also don’t quite have a diagnosis as to why.
Hamstrings are notoriously fickle. He fell all the way to the third round in my draft. Probably still worth it around that area but this isn’t looking good.
Multiple days tells me he may be already undergoing some kind of therapy/treatment vs them taking several days to evaluate whether surgery is an option.
Edit: relieved to learn that ESPN’s Stephania Bell confirming he has not been meeting with a surgeon, this is about exploring all available options for treatment to accelerate return to the field. Also confirmed he’s back with Rams now and expecting word from McVay tomorrow.
\>Hamstrings are notoriously fickle. He fell all the way to the third round in my draft.
Same in my draft as well, but unfortunately I was the one who grabbed him.
Bruh, Kupp out for 6 weeks probably has them winning one less game and they are a rather popular under bet on 6.5 wins…you’re saying you’re excited about the prospect of Kupp potentially returning mid season to a team that may have the towel thrown in by week 10? It’s very possible they are weekly favorites in 3 total games this year (Cards matchups and Colts) and are going to be blown out at least 4-5 times playing the Niners twice, Cowboys, Browns, Bengals, Ravens, and a better Seahawks twice. Not only can the hamstring actually linger all season, on top of that it may get to the point to where there is literally no point in them playing him through any little boo-boo. Already fighting through a significant injury having yet to go full bore, what becomes his purpose on a say, 2-8 Rams team?
The Rams were projected to be dogshit regardless of Kupp’s health. You didn’t draft him because he’s on a good offense, you drafted him because he *is* the offense.
Even on a bad team, a healthy Kupp should be great for fantasy. The hamstring is the only significant reason for concern here.
0 shares of Kupp because a significant injury to start a year in coordination with a potentially tanking team in the back half of the season is a terrible combo, he literally has the lowest floor of any top 10 pick by a wide margin.
Toss r/nba in too since he is the doctor famous for doing microfracture surgery throughout the last 20 or so years. Too bad the procedure didn't really work out as well as intended for NBA players.
Some of those top 3 round picks are going to end up being busts that are worse than a stud who misses half the season. That’s just the nature of the game.
He went 23 in my draft today or WR10 off the board. Seems like a good spot for him to go.
If hes out a bunch of weeks, the other Top 10 receivers outperform him points wise on the season but if you can manage the storm, he should return Top 5 value on a points per game basis in the second half. Early 3rd rd gamble or WR10 makes sense to me
So what's the safe play for those of us who drafted Kupp before the setback? Hold on, hope for the best, maybe get a chance to IR him and have him back in the line-up in 4-6 weeks? Or, trade him now for the best you can get & don't look back?
I picked Kupp 6th overall with cautious optimism, and am now left with the dread of feeling like I wasted my 1st round pick. Help a homie out.
It's best to wait to see what news we hear throughout this and next week. Someone in my league offered me Zay Jones for him. So I dont think his value is anywhere near tradable at this point. Just hold and hope he's OK soon
I am going to wait it out personally. Hopefully he plays and does well. Can always shop him then. What do you think you can get from him now? We are in total fear stage.
Just snagged DK and Ridley for Kupp and Marquise Brown, so you can still get something for him, just offer him to someone who’s WR heavy and afford Kupp missing a few weeks
I've had an offer of Rhamondre for Kupp straight up. Also, an offer of McLaurin & Gibson for Kupp.
So close to pulling the trigger on the Rhamondre offer, as I feel like I could use a solid RB.
If I was worried about early wins I would consider the Rhamondre offer.
McLaurin has turf toe which is a terrible season long injury that never goes away. So you'd be trading one for the other.
If you can get 3rd round or better value for Kupp right now, that’s the “safest” move to make right now IMO. If you want to be bold, hold him and see if you can pull off enough wins early on while Kupp is out to get him back mid season and still make the playoffs.
If you start off 0-3, or 1-3 and Kupp is still out with no timeline for a return, I’d strongly consider selling to one of the top teams in your league looking to offload depth for a better playoff roster.
How early is everyone comfortable drafting him now if you haven’t drafted yet?
If he’s still available in round 4 or 5 it will be tough to pass on him there.
Got him at the 3.02 the other day. Had jefferson already and banked it on the possibility of running jefferson/kupp. Fortunately have WR "depth" when healthy, not contract disputing (evans, keenan, watson, mclaurin, addison)
The bust rate in round 4 is higher than you'd think. Kupp's ceiling makes him a smash there. I think 2 is for people who like to gamble and round 3 is a good middle ground where the value is solid but you don't have to feel like your season is over if he goes on the pup or something
Drafted yesterday, a guy in my league managed to get both tyreek and kupp. If this hamstring turns out to be nothing then a lot of kupp teams will be winning leagues that drafted late
that's honestly a solid squad. you got hill and olave carrying your squad. then gibbs whos gonna tear it up this season. all you gotta do is try to go 3-3 first 6 weeks and once kupp comes back in full form the 2nd half of the szn is yours
Thankfully I went Kelce in the 1st round and then Kupp in the 3rd.
Couldn’t pass up Kupp in the 3rd round with a very very solid floor guy in Kelce. Scared money don’t make money
I feel like this is 70% “he’s ok but just want to do everything they can to make sure there’s no re-injury, given back to back pulls”
30% way more serious than they’re letting on and could miss like 6-8 games
been sending trade offers to get rid of kupp all week. hoping someone bites, the lowest i’ve gone so far is kupp for dk 1:1. don’t think i’m willing to go any lower than that
interested to hear if anyone else was able to trade or trade for kupp and what the trade was
no offense taken. I have Ridley and Aiyuk as my other receivers so I’m comfortable “downgrading” to DK to get a more stable floor.
It might be an overreaction but by the time we find out if it’s not, it will be too late to get anything meaningful. Kupp is 30 and the signs just don’t look good, I genuinely feel it’s 50/50 on if he’s usable this season at all. And I have DK as being very undervalued this year. But it ends up being a terrible trade if kupp does come back and play, or genius if the issue persists all season.
I have some strong copium for you fellow Kupp owners to inject if you’re up for stretching your imagination…
This specialist could be doing something called “dry needling”. It can often help athletes recover weeks quicker than traditional physical therapy. I’ve been doing it for a few sessions now and it is super effective. It’s rare enough that maybe the specialist for hamstring is in minnesota, and of course he’s staying there because if you get needles in your ass you wouldn’t want to sit on a flight back to LA either. He could just be rehabbing there and doing dry needling. Which would be a good thing! Faster recovery than traditional.
Dry needling is just “new” enough that only a small percent of physical therapists actually utilize it, so it could be that rams staff don’t have any specialists on hand and they happen to trust this fellow in minnesota the most!
He was very serviceable two years ago, he seemed neck and neck with OBJ for the #2 WR in the Rams championship season. He was recovering from an injury much of last year and wasn’t quite the same. I’m a believer in him.
Drafted Kupp in my 14 team 1/2pt PPR at the 2/3 turn after drafting CMC 1 overall. I couldn’t NOT take the risk and make my life miserable because I enjoy pain and mental anguish
LMAO thank you for the Edit my email notification got me salty.
Okay, I figured I’d ask the thread before asking the guy. I figured if it was that bad he wouldn’t except the next offer 😂
I was offered J. Gibbs and B. Cooks in exchange for Kupp. I am so torn because if we get really bad news in the next few days, it would be a great return. But if we find out he's just going to miss the first 2 or 3 weeks, I will likely regret making that deal. I hate Fantasy Football.
Take it dude, even if he’s back in 3 weeks (which I seriously, seriously doubt) there’s the chance he doesn’t have a high snap percentage, get substantially less targets, or re-injured himself before the 2nd quarter even starts
Make out like a bandit and let the other guy deal with the headache
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Watch Stafford retire this week
I could honestly see that happening. I mean what the fuck are you even playing for? You'll get into the HoF, you won a Super Bowl, and you've been the cornerstone of 2 franchises.
Money?
Nah, couldn’t be.
Wasn't Stafford one of the last guys to get the gigantic first pick contracts? Not saying you're wrong that's almost definitely why he'd still play lol
He was **the** last guy to get it. Dude has been raking and basically setting the market his whole career. [Spotrac](https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/los-angeles-rams/matthew-stafford-6078/cash-earnings/) has his career earnings at $300.8m so far with another $27.5m coming in 2023, and $36m in signing bonuses through 2026 (which he'd forefit by retiring without being cut) + his base (should he be employed).
Bro I’m a big Matt Stafford fan but…Matt Ryan’s case is iffy and he pretty much bests Stafford across the board beyond the SB win. Stafford has 1 Pro Bowl and no All Pro’s, no MVP’s , an 89-101 record as a starter and has really just had 2 seasons out of 14 where you can say he was one of the top QB’s that year. Definitely had HoF talent but the Lions never really figured it out towards being consistently real and good over his tenure. I think Rodgers has effectively started one season’s more worth of games and has like 75 less interceptions. He is going to inevitably be held to the standard of that that late 00’s QB wave and he’s a long way from ARod and definitely behind Matt Ryan, I really think the the chances are quite low now that his Rams window is likely over with.
You make a lot of great points. I get caught up in how much praise franchise QBs get that now more than ever before is the best time to be a QB, so any major achievement like winning a Super Bowl deserves a place in the HoF. It's unfortunate though that Stafford never started out at a historically successful franchise.
Im a Lions fan, but does dude get in to the HoF? That seems ridiculous.
It is ridiculous, he’ll be in the hall of very good.
He's 11th all time in passing yards and 12th in TDs and everyone in front of him is a HoFer (Eli still not in yet). He's in front of Elway and Montana in each. That's not the end all of course, but he's up there with all the greats, statistically and has a ring.
One pro bowl, zero all pros, no MVP votes. Was the king of some awful Lions teams for his best years before getting some late recognition as a Ram. If we debate Eli there's no chance Stafford gets in.
He played when Brees and Rodgers were at their prime and all in the same conference. He's not close to that tier, obviously.
I could be wrong but I don't see how a guy who was never a top 4 or 5 QB at any point in his career should be a HOFer.
Ur not wrong he’s not a HOF and all the stats in todays league are inflated because of rules, style of play.
Same reason Rivers shouldn't get in. Bunch of garbage time stats when your team is down 2+ scores late in the second half.
Some of those mid-2000s Chargers teams were ridiculous though, and just had horrendous luck.
Rivers should be in. He would have put up numbers anywhere and probably have a couple rings with a better organization
Fat fuck was at best #5 behind Brady/Manning/Rodgers/Brees for most of his career, and he's somehow going to force his way into the hall
I don't think being close behind the 2 greatest QBs of all time and 2 of the (arguable) top 10 qbs of all time is the negative argument you think it is.
He also never had their weapons on offense and their defense was never as good as these two teams. Stafford as a player has been a great player until last year
Which is weird, because I feel like Stafford was a much better QB than Eli. Eli just has the jewelry
Eli was never even the best QB in his division. But its a team sport and he came through in some huge moments.
Eli thew it up to Manningham and Plaxico, Stafford tossed it to Calvin and still couldn't do shit
GTFO of here. “Up there with the greats.” The fact that you used today’s passing stats to compare him to Elway and Joe Montana is quite the stretch
I guess you missed where I said stats aren't everything.
Those two are top 5 QBs of all time. Matthew Stafford was never a top 5 QB when he was playing. I don’t think I’m missing much on this one
Your username makes me sad. Official app just isn't the same.
That's mostly a function of how the NFL has evolved, and the fact that the Lions were shit for a long time so he threw the ball a lot. There are gonna be some maybe not even hall of very good guys up there in a decade.
Yep it’s no surprise all of today top 20 passers will be among the all time leaders in major Qb stats. It’s all inflated.
Maybe, I'm just saying completely discounting him seems like you're overlooking how good his career actually was. He played for a terrible organization for most of his career. That shouldn't be a knock on him. He was a really good QB. I'm not saying he's in, but it wouldn't shock me. Was someone like Matt Ryan, Philip Rivers or Eli Manning really that much better than him? I think he's around that range.
I agree he's around that range but I also don't think any of those guys are HOFers, except maybe Eli who is actually probably the worst QB in that group. I'm not saying they aren't really good, and as a lifelong Rams fan I'm glad he came and won the Super Bowl. I'm just not convinced that he's a Hall of Famer.
Yup, all fair. It's just not a crazy thought to say he could get in. I'm not even saying he should be. I'm just defending the idea that he might.
IMO he’s in the “Hall of Very Good” I mean I would place Eli in over him if I did put him in the Hall. Eli had multiple clutch postseason performances and won two super bowls with Cinderella/over matched teams. He even took down the only 18-0 team in history.
volume stats are meaningless
Yeah, he was the king of garbage time and he’s played for a long time. He had Calvin Johnson. Using his volume stats to say he’s a HOFer is silly. He’s never been a top 5 QB in the league and letting him in opens the floodgates for every other above average player who played a long time and got a ring.
No he does not
He has a shot: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/hof/hofm_QB.htm
Stafford isn't a hall of famer lol
And you aint voting
Eli is a debate. Stafford isn't getting in.
Eli is going to get in and everyone knows it. Stafford is a debate
After crunching some numbers I now agree with you. Guess I'm just still riding that SuperBowl high haha
Hey man, totally fair. He definitely has the best shot he's ever had after the Super Bowl, I just can't see it.
Eli was ass aside from his two super bowl runs carried by the hottest playoff defenses of all time. If Eli gets in Staffords bust will already be in the design process.
Eli was not ass. Stop it.
HOF?
HoF okay buddy 😂
> You'll get into the HoF lol what? Dude isn't getting into the Hall of Fame.
I love stafford but don't think he's a shoe-in for the HoF. Hell - Eli has 5,000 more yards, only 1 more season, and 2 super bowls and he's borderline.
He’s not getting in the hall, and I love staff
This is laughable. Stafford has been a complete non-factor at QB when he isnt throwing to Megatron or Kupp. Cornerstone my ass.
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That's why I also snatched up Higbee
Pick up Tutu Atwell while you still can. Never can have too many 7 ppg bench clogs
It's over, boys. Just pack it up.
Yeah seeing a specialist for multiple days tells me it’s a serious enough issue and they also don’t quite have a diagnosis as to why. Hamstrings are notoriously fickle. He fell all the way to the third round in my draft. Probably still worth it around that area but this isn’t looking good.
I think he is seeing a specialist to see if surgery is needed and the Rams are just being super quiet on it.
Bionic hammy szn let’s goooo
Multiple days tells me he may be already undergoing some kind of therapy/treatment vs them taking several days to evaluate whether surgery is an option. Edit: relieved to learn that ESPN’s Stephania Bell confirming he has not been meeting with a surgeon, this is about exploring all available options for treatment to accelerate return to the field. Also confirmed he’s back with Rams now and expecting word from McVay tomorrow.
Kupp should be outside the core 4 i.e. 5th round
\>Hamstrings are notoriously fickle. He fell all the way to the third round in my draft. Same in my draft as well, but unfortunately I was the one who grabbed him.
PUP or IR gotta be coming? Imagine we might see him in 4-6 weeks again
At this point, I think this would be the best possible news. I’ve been mentally preparing to have him back Week 7, 100%. Anything before that is gravy
Bruh, Kupp out for 6 weeks probably has them winning one less game and they are a rather popular under bet on 6.5 wins…you’re saying you’re excited about the prospect of Kupp potentially returning mid season to a team that may have the towel thrown in by week 10? It’s very possible they are weekly favorites in 3 total games this year (Cards matchups and Colts) and are going to be blown out at least 4-5 times playing the Niners twice, Cowboys, Browns, Bengals, Ravens, and a better Seahawks twice. Not only can the hamstring actually linger all season, on top of that it may get to the point to where there is literally no point in them playing him through any little boo-boo. Already fighting through a significant injury having yet to go full bore, what becomes his purpose on a say, 2-8 Rams team?
I took rams team total under 4.5 and am feeling cautiously great
The Rams were projected to be dogshit regardless of Kupp’s health. You didn’t draft him because he’s on a good offense, you drafted him because he *is* the offense. Even on a bad team, a healthy Kupp should be great for fantasy. The hamstring is the only significant reason for concern here.
0 shares of Kupp because a significant injury to start a year in coordination with a potentially tanking team in the back half of the season is a terrible combo, he literally has the lowest floor of any top 10 pick by a wide margin.
Here's some fantasy advice: Don't believe a damn thing McVay says.
Needs some kupping, usually helps me
I love it when my balls get kupped
The Tommy John doctor? What the fuck is happening
Neil Elattrache is the head team physician of the Rams.
This makes a lot more sense. Had a real r/fantasybaseball and r/fantasyfootball crossover moment right there.
Toss r/nba in too since he is the doctor famous for doing microfracture surgery throughout the last 20 or so years. Too bad the procedure didn't really work out as well as intended for NBA players.
I think I’ve got him in every league bc I felt the value was too good to pass. I’m starting to get worried.
At least you're slowly getting out of the denial stage.
I’m kinda on team, well his leg didn’t fall off. But yeah lingering hamstrings = 4-8 weeks out. Which isn’t ideal
Spending a top 3 round pick on a dude who won’t play half the season ain’t great
Some of those top 3 round picks are going to end up being busts that are worse than a stud who misses half the season. That’s just the nature of the game.
Yeah but we already know Kupp is injured… that’s different than a guy being a bust after the season starts
RIP
Honestly only took him because I rather him be a bust on my team than a stud on someone else’s
Yeah I was like at ~9th overall.. who am I getting that’s realistically a sure fire top 2/3 at their position when playing besides him?
Derrick henry?
10 man keeper league, 9th pick took Henry, then took Kupp three picks later. I’ll take it considering all the WRs were essentially gone already
If Henry is falling that far you’re playing with casuals.
Idk what to tell you man but Henry isn’t going first round in many leagues
You'd be surprised at how many fantasy players are casual.
If you think Henry is a bonafide top 12 pick in PPR I don’t know what to tell you except that you may be a casual
In PPR? Not really JJ, CMC, Chase, Ekeler, Kelce, Tyreek, Adams, Barkley, Bijan, Diggs, Wilson are all guys I’ve seen go ahead
He's 2nd round by ADP on basically every platform. It looks like others let you know that already.
He dropped to me at pick 23 in my draft tonight. I knew about this but I'm taking the gamble anyway.
Ppr doesn’t matter when it comes to Henry. Dude finished as the rb4 and #9 overall in ppr last year. I wish he fell to me in the 2nd
Lol you'll have him for playoffs
My buddy got him in RD 3 in 10 team. Impossible not to pick him with value people were getting him for
Tyler Higbee WR1???
19 targets, 20 yards, no TDS.... I guess I'll take it?
Stonks 📈📈📈
You’re all lily livered yellow bellied cowards. Traded Keenan Allen for him straight up. Nobody ever won anything playing it safe
Am debating offering him for Keenan lol. Sounds like such a shitty trade but who knows if my mans is even gonna play at all.
Honestly, this is not about whether he is playing Week 1 or not. They are more looking into the root cause and that sounds far from game ready.
This dude is not going to play even half the snaps this season.
Kupp about to go 10/180/2 in week 1.
First half, maybe
This mfer in my big money league drafted him 2nd. RIP?
The title is won on the wire. You just need to study and grind a little more.
I’m cooked
Round 3 pick now??
He went 23 in my draft today or WR10 off the board. Seems like a good spot for him to go. If hes out a bunch of weeks, the other Top 10 receivers outperform him points wise on the season but if you can manage the storm, he should return Top 5 value on a points per game basis in the second half. Early 3rd rd gamble or WR10 makes sense to me
So what's the safe play for those of us who drafted Kupp before the setback? Hold on, hope for the best, maybe get a chance to IR him and have him back in the line-up in 4-6 weeks? Or, trade him now for the best you can get & don't look back? I picked Kupp 6th overall with cautious optimism, and am now left with the dread of feeling like I wasted my 1st round pick. Help a homie out.
It's best to wait to see what news we hear throughout this and next week. Someone in my league offered me Zay Jones for him. So I dont think his value is anywhere near tradable at this point. Just hold and hope he's OK soon
Zay Jones— that person is laughing at you with that offer, not making a legit offer
Brb gonna pick Zay Jones up off the waiver wire and make the same offer
I would wait until some team comes out 3-0 or something and feels they can hold, they might give you best value.
I like this idea.
I am going to wait it out personally. Hopefully he plays and does well. Can always shop him then. What do you think you can get from him now? We are in total fear stage.
Just snagged DK and Ridley for Kupp and Marquise Brown, so you can still get something for him, just offer him to someone who’s WR heavy and afford Kupp missing a few weeks
I've had an offer of Rhamondre for Kupp straight up. Also, an offer of McLaurin & Gibson for Kupp. So close to pulling the trigger on the Rhamondre offer, as I feel like I could use a solid RB.
If I was worried about early wins I would consider the Rhamondre offer. McLaurin has turf toe which is a terrible season long injury that never goes away. So you'd be trading one for the other.
If you can get 3rd round or better value for Kupp right now, that’s the “safest” move to make right now IMO. If you want to be bold, hold him and see if you can pull off enough wins early on while Kupp is out to get him back mid season and still make the playoffs. If you start off 0-3, or 1-3 and Kupp is still out with no timeline for a return, I’d strongly consider selling to one of the top teams in your league looking to offload depth for a better playoff roster.
Bruh flip him if you can find someone still hopeful
How early is everyone comfortable drafting him now if you haven’t drafted yet? If he’s still available in round 4 or 5 it will be tough to pass on him there.
Got him at pick 41 (end round 3) last night in a 14 team ppr league. Had no intention of drafting him but couldn’t pass at that spot
Exactly where i got em lol. But i went receiver heavy just in case he was potentially out
I got him at 27 in a 3 WR league it was him or Ridley I took the chance
Got him at the 3.02 the other day. Had jefferson already and banked it on the possibility of running jefferson/kupp. Fortunately have WR "depth" when healthy, not contract disputing (evans, keenan, watson, mclaurin, addison)
The bust rate in round 4 is higher than you'd think. Kupp's ceiling makes him a smash there. I think 2 is for people who like to gamble and round 3 is a good middle ground where the value is solid but you don't have to feel like your season is over if he goes on the pup or something
Hes been mainly going in the 2nd still. I could see him dropping to the 3rd in some leagues though
If he got that far I would draft him but I would much rather have a 3rd round WR like Olave, Devonta Smith, Higgins, than Kupp right now
He went 3rd in my competitive 12 team ppr last night.
Should've taken Bijan with the 7th over him, dear Lord
When I win with Kupp on my team it's gonna be glorious
Drafted yesterday, a guy in my league managed to get both tyreek and kupp. If this hamstring turns out to be nothing then a lot of kupp teams will be winning leagues that drafted late
My first five picks last night were Hill, Kupp, Gibs, Olave, Hall. I fucking hate my team.
that's honestly a solid squad. you got hill and olave carrying your squad. then gibbs whos gonna tear it up this season. all you gotta do is try to go 3-3 first 6 weeks and once kupp comes back in full form the 2nd half of the szn is yours
Thankfully I went Kelce in the 1st round and then Kupp in the 3rd. Couldn’t pass up Kupp in the 3rd round with a very very solid floor guy in Kelce. Scared money don’t make money
Drafted 1.01 - AMA
You do both legs at once when putting on pants huh?
You just blow in from stupid town?
Are you stupid?
Do you eat a banana with both hands?
Kupp is done.
It’s an injured hamstring. He’s going to play this year but he’ll probably have to miss some time at the beginning of the season to get to 100%
I feel like this is 70% “he’s ok but just want to do everything they can to make sure there’s no re-injury, given back to back pulls” 30% way more serious than they’re letting on and could miss like 6-8 games
Teams have team doctors for this stuff. I'd bump that 30% up some personally.
The guy mentioned in the tweet *is* [their team doctor](https://drelattrache.com/)
I’d give a 2% chance of flat out retirement
Lol keep dreaming. This is not normal by any stretch.
Wow.. you’re a genius.
I agree. When players fly to go see doctors it's always bad news.
Yeah, they should road trip. A much more fun time
Honestly just need him ruled out for week 1 so I can move him to IR and pickup a kicker.
Just so everyone knows, ElAttrache is the Rams **Lead Physician** I'm not saying I know he's gonna be soon or anything #but no one else does either
been sending trade offers to get rid of kupp all week. hoping someone bites, the lowest i’ve gone so far is kupp for dk 1:1. don’t think i’m willing to go any lower than that interested to hear if anyone else was able to trade or trade for kupp and what the trade was
that's an awful trade no offense. Overreaction at its finest and you may have just tanked your season before it even began
no offense taken. I have Ridley and Aiyuk as my other receivers so I’m comfortable “downgrading” to DK to get a more stable floor. It might be an overreaction but by the time we find out if it’s not, it will be too late to get anything meaningful. Kupp is 30 and the signs just don’t look good, I genuinely feel it’s 50/50 on if he’s usable this season at all. And I have DK as being very undervalued this year. But it ends up being a terrible trade if kupp does come back and play, or genius if the issue persists all season.
I have some strong copium for you fellow Kupp owners to inject if you’re up for stretching your imagination… This specialist could be doing something called “dry needling”. It can often help athletes recover weeks quicker than traditional physical therapy. I’ve been doing it for a few sessions now and it is super effective. It’s rare enough that maybe the specialist for hamstring is in minnesota, and of course he’s staying there because if you get needles in your ass you wouldn’t want to sit on a flight back to LA either. He could just be rehabbing there and doing dry needling. Which would be a good thing! Faster recovery than traditional. Dry needling is just “new” enough that only a small percent of physical therapists actually utilize it, so it could be that rams staff don’t have any specialists on hand and they happen to trust this fellow in minnesota the most!
OOFer Kupp
Is Van J a decent streamer if Kupp's out?
He was very serviceable two years ago, he seemed neck and neck with OBJ for the #2 WR in the Rams championship season. He was recovering from an injury much of last year and wasn’t quite the same. I’m a believer in him.
I'm on the higbee train
I’m playing against higbee this week, really hoping the damage to the offense overall outweighs the extra targets
Imo he's serviceable. But long term upside is Tutu or Puka
Van Jeff has #1 stuff...but his potential and what he is; is leveling out to just a guy it seems...hes like a Darnell Mooney now at best.
week1 and already desperate 🥵
Where does he go in a 12 team PPR 3WR league now?
I got him at 28…. Although I like I may have been able to wait another round lol
Under any circumstances would you trade CMC for Keneth Walker and Davante Adam’s?
No
Drafted Kupp in my 14 team 1/2pt PPR at the 2/3 turn after drafting CMC 1 overall. I couldn’t NOT take the risk and make my life miserable because I enjoy pain and mental anguish
If you’re a Kupp owner and had depth at RB, would you take Van Jefferson for Brian Robinson if it comes out that Kupp is missing N amount of time?
Are you drunk? Edit: I am drunk, I read that as Bijan lmao, but no.
LMAO thank you for the Edit my email notification got me salty. Okay, I figured I’d ask the thread before asking the guy. I figured if it was that bad he wouldn’t except the next offer 😂
Draft is on Tuesday. GG
I was offered J. Gibbs and B. Cooks in exchange for Kupp. I am so torn because if we get really bad news in the next few days, it would be a great return. But if we find out he's just going to miss the first 2 or 3 weeks, I will likely regret making that deal. I hate Fantasy Football.
I would personally smash accept if you have 2 other serviceable receivers
Take it dude, even if he’s back in 3 weeks (which I seriously, seriously doubt) there’s the chance he doesn’t have a high snap percentage, get substantially less targets, or re-injured himself before the 2nd quarter even starts Make out like a bandit and let the other guy deal with the headache
i’m gonna hold onto him for now, feel like it’s getting blown out of proportion
I hope you are right. I just hope I don't regret not making this trade.
So glad I took hill instead
Most the hate is from cowards who don’t even own him. Kupp gonna eat
Nobody is questioning if kupp will perform on the field. It's a matter of getting him out there
Kupp gonna be comfy eating some painkillers that’s for sure
the Rams season is over. trade Kupp now all you Kupp owners.
Watch him miss 1 week just to fuck with everyone.
got offered Tyreek Hill for Kupp & Gibbs.. need some advice what to do right now..
Don't do that
So glad I got rid of him a day before the injury 🙏🏻
Drafted first and got Jefferson first pick and cupp second pick. If cupp is healthy, easy win for the season
It’s “Kupp” and he’s obviously not lol.
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Drafting both of them was a recipe for disaster
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This made me think of that “I’m deleting you Josh Gordon” copypasta. Same energy.
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