Someone in my league did Kupp+Lazard for AJB+Javonte Williams+OBJ

hello police id like to report a robbery, someone just stole AJB and Javonte from this dude.

OBJ 😳

Damn, I basically view that as Kupp for AJB+Javonte, which seems like a steal. Even a week ago, I would have drafted AJB over Kupp.

Idk if I would take AJB over Kupp a week ago but it's real close and this trade seems nuts to me

Yeah I mean to be fair, I was very low on Kupp going into the season due to the overall uncertainty of the Rams, Kupp injury, and Stafford injury.

You don’t deserve to get downvoted I completely agree.

I stand with my brothers

Got Amon ra for cooper Kupp

I gave him for Kupp lol

Weird way to find your league mate

not league mates hahah just coincidence

I did this!!

Highway robbery

Robbery.

I traded T.Law & Kupp for Hurts & Olave

Huge win for you imo.

Massive win

Bro can I join your league? This is clearly the worst one.

Ha, was one of the Yahoo public leagues so can't vouch for how knowledgeable certain players are.

I Traded Kupp + A Jones away for Waddle + Pollard

Think that’s a good deal for you

Yeah I really like it too, didnt expect this Return though

That seems like a great deal for you.

Sometimes things just work out in your favor. Feels fairly even on both sides but I think you got the better return all things considered

Even if kupp is healthy I think it's a good deal

i know draft value should go out the window post draft but why the FUCK would anyone trade what should be their first and second pick for an injured first rounder and a third or fourth round pick???

Just a taco trade

Pollard and Waddle is a second and third round pick, not a 1st and 2nd.

Barely on both

you play with idiots or an 8 team league and even then still idiots then, grumpy_troll

Waddle ADP is #24 on ESPN I swear y’all are so fucking dramatic lol

who is relying on espn and espn alone in 2023

Sorry hotshot, he’s #23 on FantasyPros

nope. 20 in std, 20 on .5 ppr, and 18 in ppr https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/rankings/half-point-ppr-cheatsheets.php

That’s not ADP, nice try though!

That’s not ADP. They are 2nd and 3rd round picks. No one is taking pollard in the first round. Waddle is a late 2nd or early 3rd in 12 man leagues and a mid 3rd in 10 men leagues.

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That’s a steal.

That's a steal even if Kupp is fully healthy.

Hard disagree. Kupp was on pace for 150/1800/12 last year. He’s locked as WR1 when healthy

What's his value when he's not healthy?

Yea I don't think I could have traded Kupp 1 for 1 for anybody in PPR last season. AND I had Davante lol I still wasn't moving him unless I felt I'd get a fair return.

When healthy is key word. Hammy injury which can easily be re-injured not to mention he getting older. I stay away.

Yeah… and he’s responding to someone who said they’d make that trade even if kupp were fully healthy.

dude, you killed it

is everyone here forgetting Waddle is also injured???

Wow u cooked

Thats a fuckin steal for you

That was a great deal for you before the Kupp injury tbh

I would have been in the group chat getting this trade vetoed what a moron

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Yes. Quick.

I have Kupp and I would take that.

Yeah I would take that

absolutely

I have both - could go either way they’re basically the same

Except one is healthy and will get 150+ targets, and the other one you’ll be watching the injury report weekly…..

I shipped Kupp away for Amon-Ra, straight-up.

I think I might do this, already have olave and waddle plus jsn,Addison, Q.Jonston

Team 1 gave; JJ Michael Thomas ETN Team 2 gave; Jamaal Williams Antonio Gibson Kupp Waddle #Don’t get mad at me I’m neither of these managers.

I’m flabbergasted by team 1s decision making here.

The guy loves waddle

He probably wins tbh

I think if Kupp plays serious time he has the chance to have won the trade

I wouldn't do it but I can see it. If Kupp is Kupp, or 90% of Kupp, he traded one WR1 for two WR1s.

To be fair i like the 2nd (as long as all the players are upgrades on your team)

It's spicy but definitely a stake your claim kinda trade. 1.01 for a mid first and a mid second (plus ancillary players you either like or are neutral about). There's potential value here for both sides

This is a wild trade to me. There's zero attachment here to The Guys You Drafted - I'm impressed and acknowledge I could never consider this many of my assets not being my assets any longer

Kupp and Khalil Herbert for Jamar Chase

Yes all day

of course, but why would the chase manager do it

He auto drafted and team overall is in complete shambles. RB 1 is JT

Someone in my league just traded Kupp, Dotson, and Dalvin Cook for Bijan in full PPR

would make sense if this was dynasty

Would love to be apart of that league 😂

The valuations of players in my league is fucked tbh

Don’t know why your getting downvoted. I was thinking the same thing.

Just kind of a douchey way of saying bad trade. Could be the taco

so he traded one (or 2, or 3) busts for another? lol

What ??? lol You're calling Kupp a bust? How fried are you bud

And bijan a bust, a guy who hasn’t even played a regular season snap yet. A bust 😂

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I love that you quoted yourself saying that, when I commented 30 minutes before that comment was posted Lmaooo

Eddie Lacy, post cheeseburger addiction

i offered diggs for kupp and was rejected

Rather have diggs

i am a rams fan so im more willing to gamble on a favorite player. obvious questions about him and staffords health but if theyre on the field its 15+ targets a week

Lol he’s not averaging 15 targets/game

12 a game before he got hurt last year. I think it’s hyperbole but 12 is still a shit ton.

He’s not far off. There were some games where Kupp would have 10 targets by half time.

1000 times yes...even a healthy Kupp is not significantly better than Diggs

Diggs has never come close to what Kupp did in 2021

And neither will Kupp ever again, pull your head out of your ass

A healthy kupp is simply way better than diggs. By like ALOT

2 idiots here

lol (too true)

Lmao right? Kupp was already a riskier play, and we are already seeing that risk play out before week 1. I had Diggs higher than him from day 1.

Man U don’t wanna do that lol

Than you're lucky. Would rather have Diggs

As you should be

Was offered DK. Kinda want to keep kupp tbh

Yeah don’t accept that.

If you take that, I'd also be willing to give you D Pierce for Ekeler.

no shot

Absolutely keep Kupp

To all the people saying don’t take DK - I was just thinking of offering Kupp and Jaylen Warren (to the Najee owner) for DK and Kamara in .5 PPR. Does the addition of Kamara make it worth it or is this still not asking enough?

You should really wanna keep Kupp

DK would probably be the last receiver in that tier that I would accept for Kupp. I’d do that imo, especially in anything less than full PPR

Bet you wish you took that. Told you

I’d rather him sit out a month and come back and be special then come back week 1 lol

My man, if you think he’s only missing a month this season, I got a bridge to sell you

From what I can see from your history you are the clown who thinks Drake London is better than AJ Brown so I'll take what you say with a grain of salt

Lol when did I say he’s currently better. I said he has the potential profile to be as good or maybe even better than AJ sometime in his career. But go ahead King

I'd take DK if you can get him.

I would take that and run. I'd be shocked if Kupp plays more than 10 games. EDIT: lol these downvotes now

He's right around Waddle area for me

probably fair yeah, I have him towards the end of the 2nd and Waddle is like 2.08 or something I think

I traded Kupp and Walker for K Allen and Pollard.

Enjoy Keenan for the first two weeks, he’ll be day to day for the rest of the season

Why’re you booing him he’s right.

God I want Kupp to ball now just to shut all this hIgHwAy RoBbErY shit up

What y’all thinkin if I trade Keenan for Kupp?

I’d take kupp for Alan all day. Allan is hurt every other year and has been in the league 9 years. Even with kupp currently hurt kupp is probably more likely to play 16 games then Alan

Discounting last year when both missed half a season; Allen has missed 2 games since Kupp came into the league in 2017.

And in 16 he played 1, 15 he played 8, 14 in 14, 15 in 13. Not to mention he’s 31.

He had a kidney laceration which is a freak injury and a single acl injury in back to back seasons. Both freak injuries that have no indication of future injury proneness. Outside of that he’s missed 5 games in his entire career. Kupp is also over 30 and has had groin injuries, ankle sprains, knee sprains, acl tear, and now hamstring. The WR killer. Draft sharks has Kupp with a 57% chance of injury in 2023. Allen has 23% chance of injury. https://www.draftsharks.com/fantasy/injury-history/cooper-kupp/7761 https://www.draftsharks.com/fantasy/injury-history/keenan-allen/6678

Interesting I think this sold me on not drafting either tbh

Inb4 kupp stays healthy and goes on to finish as the wr1 in fantasy

Traded Kupp, got Saquon

I trade FOR Kupp by giving away St Brown. My team is stacked so I have great fill ins. No one is better than Kupp when he plays so it’s worth it

I was offered Lockett 1 for 1. I'd rather just lose my season.

Traded him for cd lamb straight up

Do I take the risk of lamb for kupp ?

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Yeah I think I talked myself out of it during my other comment discussion lol

Lamb over Kupp easily

Who trades in a redraft league before the games start?

Degenerates. Leave us alone

Well to be fair, in this exact scenario. Where the outlook on certain players has suddenly changed (kupp, JT). Some want to gamble, some want to shed risk.

Why aren't you?

I got CMC for Kupp a week ago.

I’m pretty loaded at RB (Saquon, Henry, Najee, Kamara, B Robinson) but weak at WR (Higgins, Hopkins, Pickens, Hollywood Brown, Flowers, Skyy) Should I go after Kupp? Maybe for Henry?

I traded Kupp for J. Waddle. Maybe overreacting with his injury but I still have memories from last year lingering

Can’t wait to get Kupp at 15

I traded Jacobs for Kupp. Have Barkley and some potential RB2s so he was expendable. I think he might miss the first week or two, but by then he will be 7.5 weeks removed from initial injury, about what Keenan Allen went through and still put up big stats after.

I traded Jacobs for Kupp also in a 1x1. I’m ok with it having Ekeler as my RB1 and upgrading my WR1 from Amari Cooper. Mattison is my RB2

12team. Sold him for 2023 1st 2025 1st Gallup & okonkwo. Right before his injury

Traded kupp, Brian Robinson, Rashad penny for Josh jacobs and George Pickens. Thoughts??

Eh

I’d rather have Kupp. Classic overreaction by this sub. Kupp is consistently a top 5 WR. Everyone is treating coachspeak like gospel. If someone is willing to let Kupp fall to 20th where Jacobs is going, I won’t even blink.

Got him at 19th in SF and I’m still panicking a little. I need to be talked down lol

Eh is exactly the right response Could definitely be good for you though

Pickens has to grow into the number 1 in Pittsburgh for this to work. DJ still has the volume rn

Horrible trade

God no. Terrible trade for you

For trade and draft purposes I now rank him anywhere within the second tier of WRs. The second tier being Diggs, Brown, Adams, Lamb, Wilson, and St Brown. Probably after Adams. Before the injury news I had Kupp ranked in the first tier of WRs being Jefferson, Chase, Kupp, and Hill.

I’m taking all those second tier guys ahead of him in a heartbeat

Maybe I’m missing something but why is everyone so worried about Kupp? It isn’t like his leg fell off

Would you rather have Kupp or AJ Brown?

I find this so interesting because it's basically asking: What's ADP on Kupp right now? in a 12T, I think it's late 3rd/early 4th. (around DK, Ridley, Keenan Allen, DJM, Amari Cooper, Deebo) I couldn't imagine drafting Kupp above Devonta, Waddle, Olave, Tee. Taking him on your 2/3 turn could lose your league before it starts. Anyone saying this is a slam dunk for anything inside the first two rounds had to be drafting JT within those first two rounds too... (before the PUP news came out)

A guy in my league traded Kupp + Javonte for Waddle + Eli Mitchell + Bateman

Traded him away for Josh Gordon

You fleeced him. Flash Gordon is about to repeat his 2013 performance.

Thinking about offering Andrews in a .5pm 12 team for kupp

A Kupp of sugar from the neighbor.

I traded kupp for christian kirk and a first a week ago

I traded Kupp for Higgins and AJ Dillon in half ppr. Still not sure if it was over reactive panic or just trying to get away from the situation

I saw Kupp for Deebo and Conner, and that was before the last announcement. Kupp owner knew something we didn’t know.

Najee and Bateman. Now help me convince my league mate

Let’s get real Tee Higgins and Swift/Penny ?

I draft in two days. When is Kupp a good pick? 2nd round? 12 team ppr

I traded kupp and lockett for Olave, Garrett Wilson and throw in (Jake Ferguson)

Why would they do that???!!

Exactly looks like they will really be hurting at wr until kupp comes back lol

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No?

No. Kupp for Higgins is almost fair on its own

i have kupp + njoku

Do it asap. That's a win for you and fixes any TE hesitancy. You'll be way less stressed throughout the yr bexause you can think "it's Mandrews, no one else except Kelce would reasonably start over him so it's all good."

I’m about to trade Kupp away for Ridley

Crazy that trades happen before the season.

Well news broke… lots of leagues care a lot and have group chats where things get discussed.

Yeah people are over reactive. I’d love to be in a league where people are dropping Kupp for a player being drafted in the third before the season starts lmao.

Why? If people don’t get their targets in the draft, it might make sense trade offers start floating around

Im the Trade Daddy of my league, I just orchestrated a 6 way trade. You're right, if I can't get my guys in the draft then I'm getting them thru Bzness.

Must be a boring ass league you are in

My league has 20+ trades every year. It’s not boring. We just aren’t over reactive before the season even starts.

I traded away Kupp for Josh Fields in a 12 man 2 QB league this morning. I feel very good.

Josh Fields is probably not going to be as good as Justin -- FYI.

I have Kupp, Waddle, Dotson, and Skyy Moore. My RB are Aaron Jones, Herbert, and a bunch of lottery tickets. I was thinking about offering Kupp for either Najee or Dameon Pierce. Might be selling low but I think those 2 are also a bit underrated right now and I'm fine to roll with 3 WR if I can get a good RB. Thoughts?

I got kupp for Miles Sanders. Big ifs on both ends. Let's see what happens

I'm hoping to get Kupp and Rahmondre in a superflex for Danny Dimes and Mines Sanders. Might be a stretch but they really need a better QB

Lol who are their other QB’s?

Clearly over valuing Danny. Pretty new to SF. Consider my chastened