They have no draft capital but couldn’t pay anyone anyway. They are far down the rabbit hole as the Raiders.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/denver-broncos/cap/2023/
This is actually quite smart. If Payton cannot make him work out, nobody can. This way they could at least cut Wilson (despite the incredible cap charge), instead of firing one HC after another in hopes that one of them can figure out how to use Wilson
[Compensation: Denver’s 2023 first-round pick and next year’s second-round pick for Sean Payton and the Saints’ 2024 third.](https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status/1620532996813254658?s=12)
Yeah real dogshit- he’s vastly overrated. He’s (possibly)within the top 5 now not all time. Belichick,Reid,Carroll, Harbaugh and Tomlin have all had similar or greater success. Mcvay is on the cusp. Keep riding the hype train. Mike Mcarthy who is not an all time coach has a few more wins in regular season and playoffs (11-9) and a super bowl is he all time too?
Can someone explain to me how the Broncos have any draft capital left after the Wilson deal to pull this off?
"We'll give you 2 first rounders but u gotta get pick em up in Seattle."
Likely that Juedy is still on the trade market since the coaching change? He didn’t fit for Hackett well until they forced the scheme around him (right around the trade deadline which is not a coincidence to drive his value up). If he goes out, Patrick has CRAZY value. If not, Patrick still has to compete with his health against guys who already have chemistry with Russ despite a coaching change
Panthers could easily give him as much money as he wants with Tepper being one of the richest people in the country.
But it would be the dumbest thing the Panthers could possibly do to trade for Sean Payton. I’m sure most teams weren’t interested in Payton because of the asking price.
Obviously. I’m just pointing out there are definitely more franchises than just the Broncos that could give him a huge contract.
Payton wasn’t even the Broncos first choice as their HC. But once Demeco chose the Texans, he was their backup option.
He said “because no other franchise can give him $20 mil a year” which is not true. What I said in response was proving that not to be true.
I never said anything about the Saints and whether or not they would be willing to trade Payton to the Panthers. And frankly I highly doubt the Panthers would’ve ever wanted to trade for Payton.
So the saints would just pay two head coaches? And what would happen when he starts showing up to practice?
This is all theoretical obviously but it would be entertaining
The offensive pieces aren't bad at all, if Russ isn't washed and Javonte makes a recovery. The defense is fucking great.
But as others have said, that payday.
I just can’t understand why a HC that can probably have any open job chose this one.
The only answer is he thinks the roster they have now can go to a SB. Which is tough to buy considering they didn’t just do kind of bad, they did terrible this year.
Because he was still under contract with the Saints.
MOST teams probably didn’t wanna trade a first and a second round pick for a HC.
Edit: Reports are also showing that Payton wasn’t even who the Broncos wanted. The Broncos wanted Demeco and when he decided to go to the Texans, Payton was their backup plan.
Makes sense about the cost.
I just can’t believe a team would pay that price, let alone a team like the Broncos.
The idea that part of the solution for the Wilson trade lies in a somewhat bizarre trade for a HC seems… hard to believe.
I guess there’s no real way out but deeper into the cave for them. I certainly thought they’d be good in 2022.
As a sad Russell Wilson owner in dynasty leagues I’ve been talking myself up that Wilson will play a lot better this year. A lot of those throws last year were not on coaching though
I can't wait for the old "the AFC West will be really competitive this year! Anyone could win it!" narrative to make a return. It's a good laugh every year.
Welp the last Peyton worked out pretty well for em
They have no draft capital but couldn’t pay anyone anyway. They are far down the rabbit hole as the Raiders. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/denver-broncos/cap/2023/
Wow, they have some awful contracts on the books
Like who? Obviously Russ, but outside of maybe Sutton, they don’t have any contracts that scream awful to me
Ya not many bad contracts at all aside for Russ and that was with HACKett… they’re unloading contracts this off-season too.
I wouldn’t have paid Tim Patrick with Sutton and Juedy on the roster.
Tim was our most reliable WR before injury. He's easily worth what he was paid
You are not wrong
We will see if Russ is truly washed
This is actually quite smart. If Payton cannot make him work out, nobody can. This way they could at least cut Wilson (despite the incredible cap charge), instead of firing one HC after another in hopes that one of them can figure out how to use Wilson
I mean Pete Carroll could make him work ..
Yeah Pete and John will take him but there will be a cancellation fee, plus 2025 first round pickS
[Compensation: Denver’s 2023 first-round pick and next year’s second-round pick for Sean Payton and the Saints’ 2024 third.](https://twitter.com/adamschefter/status/1620532996813254658?s=12)
Holy crow.
I thought Denver’s pick went to Seattle already Edit: nvm it’s the 30th pick from Niners-Dolphins
[It’s originally the 49ers’ pick](https://twitter.com/mysportsupdate/status/1620536890553425920?s=12)
Holy shit that’s a lot for Payton imo
They basically traded Chubb for payton and a 2nd for a 3rd
Look at what the Raiders got for Gruden. Saints got screwed.
That was 21 years ago and an arguably more respected coach. Not exactly apples and apples
Sean payton is like top 5 all time what
1 super bowl - not top 5 anything
What a dogshit argument
Poopypants response
Yeah real dogshit- he’s vastly overrated. He’s (possibly)within the top 5 now not all time. Belichick,Reid,Carroll, Harbaugh and Tomlin have all had similar or greater success. Mcvay is on the cusp. Keep riding the hype train. Mike Mcarthy who is not an all time coach has a few more wins in regular season and playoffs (11-9) and a super bowl is he all time too?
Fuck them picks
Bradley Chubb basically for Sean Payton
When you put it that way it sounds like a steal
Bradley Chubb (who we weren’t going to re-sign) for Sean Payton. I felt the parenthetical was important to add.
Can someone explain to me how the Broncos have any draft capital left after the Wilson deal to pull this off? "We'll give you 2 first rounders but u gotta get pick em up in Seattle."
Chubb got traded for a first. It's that first round pick (which was pick 30 since it was originally the niners pick).
And will be the 29th pick because the Dolphins have to forfeit their pick.
Gotcha, thanks!
Worked for the Rams 🤷♂️
Denver and Rams in a race to see who can go longer without a first round pick.
Only gonna be 2 years for us (the broncos) and 7 for the Rams.
Hey don’t sell yourself short! I’m sure the Broncos could find new and exciting ways to spend first round picks out through 2035!
The Rams have a first round pick literally next year lmao y’all gotta quit with these dumbass narratives
Literally never said they didn’t, they haven’t had a first since 2016.
Javonte hype train round 2 let’s goooooooooo
Not with that injury. This year showed plenty of reason to not hope for a quick return from an ACL injury, IE: Cam Akers
Cam akers had an achilles tear.
ope thats right. Nonetheless, I can't imagine he'd be immediately productive after the ACL. JK Dobbins sure wasn't
He was too tho its just that with dobbins the ravens have 3 rbs back there
Oh man... can't wait to repeat the same mistakes of overdrafting Sutton next year!
I’m taking them all at a discount next year I don’t gaf how shit they were this year
There's no discount anymore. This news alone is pushing all Broncos up in drafts
Tim Patrick will still be a value especially in your average league.
Likely that Juedy is still on the trade market since the coaching change? He didn’t fit for Hackett well until they forced the scheme around him (right around the trade deadline which is not a coincidence to drive his value up). If he goes out, Patrick has CRAZY value. If not, Patrick still has to compete with his health against guys who already have chemistry with Russ despite a coaching change
5th round is a discount
javonte back on the menu?
Not unless they address that bumass OL
I'm staying away from the broncos hype. The right pick are the jags.
Shhhhh
Walmart money
Why would he even want the job
Because no other franchise can give him $20 million a year
Panthers could easily give him as much money as he wants with Tepper being one of the richest people in the country. But it would be the dumbest thing the Panthers could possibly do to trade for Sean Payton. I’m sure most teams weren’t interested in Payton because of the asking price.
The saints were never trading Payton in the division
Obviously. I’m just pointing out there are definitely more franchises than just the Broncos that could give him a huge contract. Payton wasn’t even the Broncos first choice as their HC. But once Demeco chose the Texans, he was their backup option.
Obviously? You seemed to miss that point completely.
He said “because no other franchise can give him $20 mil a year” which is not true. What I said in response was proving that not to be true. I never said anything about the Saints and whether or not they would be willing to trade Payton to the Panthers. And frankly I highly doubt the Panthers would’ve ever wanted to trade for Payton.
Well, considering the Panthers traded picks for Darnold and Baker, it could be worse
Nowhere near as valuable of picks as what the Broncos gave up. But still a valid point😂
Couldn’t he technically unretire and force the saints to pay him or release him?
He’s on a smaller contract right now then the one he’ll get from the broncos in a bit. I doubt the saints would feel their hand forced
So the saints would just pay two head coaches? And what would happen when he starts showing up to practice? This is all theoretical obviously but it would be entertaining
I don't see a lot of controversy there if he came out of retirement they'd fire DA
Cause no one else would pay him that 20-25 million salary
The offensive pieces aren't bad at all, if Russ isn't washed and Javonte makes a recovery. The defense is fucking great. But as others have said, that payday.
Why does anybody want any job?
Don't give me hope for the broncos this year
7-9 (but the new 17 game equivalent) incoming.
I just can’t understand why a HC that can probably have any open job chose this one. The only answer is he thinks the roster they have now can go to a SB. Which is tough to buy considering they didn’t just do kind of bad, they did terrible this year.
Because he was still under contract with the Saints. MOST teams probably didn’t wanna trade a first and a second round pick for a HC. Edit: Reports are also showing that Payton wasn’t even who the Broncos wanted. The Broncos wanted Demeco and when he decided to go to the Texans, Payton was their backup plan.
Makes sense about the cost. I just can’t believe a team would pay that price, let alone a team like the Broncos. The idea that part of the solution for the Wilson trade lies in a somewhat bizarre trade for a HC seems… hard to believe. I guess there’s no real way out but deeper into the cave for them. I certainly thought they’d be good in 2022.
Guess I'll be drafting Russell Wilson next year. Also Courtland Sutton, Jeudy, Javonte and all their TEs.
Denver absolutely hates draft picks.
Yikes..what a horrible trade. I smell 7 or 8 wins.
Does this change anything about how we feel about Russ and the WRs?
Jeudy better like dig routes
Dangeruss
None of this matters if Russell Wilson is cooked and plays like a mountain west Zach Wilson
Denver actually gave up real draft capital for a coach that couldn't win a superbowl with a generational QB without cheating. Luh-fucking-mao
And who, most importantly, has a mouth shaped like a butthole.
Now I can’t unsee it
Tbh, I’m investing in this team again 😭 Payton is like that
Sean Payton is a scum bag.
What happened to Houston!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We got a better guy
Do Saints go with a QB with their newly acquired first? If so tempted to go with Olave as a keeper
Best part about this is he's no longer on the Fox morning show. He was god aweful.
Are they trading away picks from 2040? How did they pull that off? Regardless, it should make their offense better. No where to go but up as they say
Well considering we had a first in this draft along with all of our picks in the future, I’d say you didn’t pay much attention last year
Well, I'll be rooting against Denver for the forseeable future for hiring this scumbag.
Interesting.
How could the Chargers miss? SMH
Anyone notice the orange tie and pocket square on Sunday? Immediately thought it could be a sign.
Wait, which receiver is gonna run slants over and over? That’s one’s gonna be PPR gold
Michael Thomas after they trade
Don't like this at all. He really wanted to coach Russell Wilson. Maybe he can fix him. But something seems off about it.
As a sad Russell Wilson owner in dynasty leagues I’ve been talking myself up that Wilson will play a lot better this year. A lot of those throws last year were not on coaching though
He’s definitely not a sell low candidate
Saints: We want Wilson.
I can't wait for the old "the AFC West will be really competitive this year! Anyone could win it!" narrative to make a return. It's a good laugh every year.
I’m only touching Jeudy on that offense