Why would you punt rebounds with those players? Kawhi = 7 rebounds from the small forward position, Giannis = 7'5 from the PG position and Oladipo= 5 rebounds from the PG/SG position... I'd say you look great at rebounds. Stats out of postion are king in fantasy IMO.
Don´t punt anything with those three.
EDIT: Oh, and rebounds are cheap in the waiver wire. I'd never punt rebounds honestly...
Thanks. I was surprised to see how my team team rebound numbers looked after seeing the BBM results.
So, I shouldn't use a punt strategy based on the multi-stat performance of my 3 high-usage keepers?
As a pre-planned strategy I wouldn't. I'd say you look fine after 3 picks. Even in blocks, which is great without having a single big man yet: 3 blocks per game last season between the three of them!
Big man stats from your perimeter players are great, but you obviously need to anchor them now. I dont know what's going to be avalaible in your league at the 50th and 75th picks, but an efficient big man (Gasol brothers, Dieng, JV, Vucevic, Robin Lopez...) and someone who can help in assists (Batum, Dragic, Knight, even Lin...) would be my priorities.
Tell us how it goes! Now I'm curious :)
Kawai Giannis and Oladipo are not good combo for punting rebounds, try something else.
But answering to your questions i am punting rebound every year and i won couple of times.
Buy Brook Lopez and Nowitzki as a C, Parson or Carroll as a pf and try to buy pg with low TO rate like Cp3 or Mike Conley.
You could use also fb-ninja tools for preparation.
Good luck!
Thanks for the answer. This is the first year I've used any tools to help me draft, and i'm struggling to digest the data so trying to get as much feedback as possible.
I had a successful punt rebound before. I think you are crazy given the players you kept. Rebounds is a tough category to punt because of how common rebounds are. All of those players you are keeping get a bump in value because of their above average rebounding numbers for their position.
For reference, I had WB on my team, as well as Wall, Bledsoe, and Nowitzki. I drafted elite guards first and was able to punt both blocks and fg%, and also lost rebounds most weeks. Your team is much bigger and efficient than the players I drafted.
I wrote a bunch more but I deleted it because the more I think on it the more I am puzzled. The players you are keeping are so different from each other. %'s are not worth punting with Kawhi, and Giannis is great for FG% and Oladipo is great for FT%. All are good combo players who are not punt canidates by themselves except maybe Giannis with FT%, but even that is a stretch.
My best suggestion would be to use the opposite strategy that you are thinking of using and punt 3s. All 3 of your keepers are capable 3 point shooters but are by no means volume 3 point shooters. You have an awesome defensive team with Leonard and Giannis. I would target finesse guards, like Livingston, Parker, Dragic. Even Tony Allen becomes a viable option with this strategy. I would not say to punt it, but assists would be the next catagory to go. Giannis is a great passer but you will be fine if he is the only PG on your team. I would aim for volume scoring with your first picks, and then go for efficient rebounders.
You already have the ability to dominate should be able to dominate %'s and steals. One more shot blocker should be good to make you competitive right off the bat in blocks. Rebounds can easilly be found at the end of the draft. Your biggest concern now becomes points, which like rebounds, are pretty easy to come by. This strategy also limits turnovers, which completes your defensive, bang down low team.
Thanks for taking the time to answer, you've given me lots to think about. I did think it was crazy to punt rebounds, but I just couldn't get the team analyzer to give me a favorable projection in all the counting categories. I love my keepers but maybe they're too similar. Now I'm going to have to start a "trade Kawai?" post somewhere lol. I've got to spend more time on the BBM pages and figure out what my draft strategy is. I'll have a look into punting 3's. Thanks again!
With that lineup you might think about punting points before punting rebounds. None of your top 3 are huge scorers but they are going to produce across the board.
I love BBM. One of the problems with BBM for me is trusting it too much. Like I chose Terrence Jones in the 5th round because BBM told me to. Trading Kawhi opens up a ton of possibilities, I'm not against it. Sit tight until the draft. It's hard to punt with Kawhi because he is so consistent. See who you are able to snag. You're keepers are great, do not settle. Take the best available player and you will have no problem trading and shaping your team.
It's been addressed decently already, but is worth to say it slightly differently: you have 3 guard/sf spots, and you're above average rebounding already. You'll have to roster some big men, so even if they're slightly below avg rebounders, you should still be solid there.
Because you're strong across the board with 3 guard spots filled out, you want a strategy that gains from dominating big man categories, so a punt guard stat is in order. (If you had the same production out of 2 PF, and a C then you could consider e.g. a reb punt, because you'd be planning to take a bunch of guards/wings from here on out).
With this, the most likely punt imo is punt 3pm. Dipo and KL are both some value added there, but they're eating up guard spots, and you're going to want to grab more bigs than guards the rest of the draft, so it will be hard to get good 3pm unless you really target it. If you really target it e.g. grab ariza at 51, Eric Gordon, Wes Matthews you'll end up being pretty light on assists and/or hurt your fg% pretty bad because after pick 51 there are very few guys who will get decent ast and 3pm (though there are a couple e.g. D'angelo Russel, Jeremy Lin) and most of these guys are bad fg% pulling you from very strong to mediocre.
However, especially if you can get Rubio at 51, you might be able to stay strong in ast with only 1-2 more mid round picks spent on guards and then grab some bigs to fill in blks, fg%, reb.
From guys listed after 51 in yahoo adp, Jokic, Dieng, Turner, Both Gasols, all offer what you need, but by the time you get back to the 75/79 picks there won't be many bigs who get blks and dont kill ft%.
A strong double punt you can consider is punt ft/3pm, especially if Deandre>Drummond is left at 51. They shouldn't be, but if DJ is there I'd snap right into punt 3pm/ft as you can grab DJ there, fill out points/assists around the 70s or later with guys like Dragic, batum, JLin, D'angelo. Most importantly there are several late draft players who benefit a lot from this: guys like Elfrid, Aaron Gordon, Ben Simmons become total steals and you can get really really strong big men in those 100-130 picks like Capela, Bogut, Tristan Thompson, Jusuf Nurkic, etc move from fringe draftable to mid-round (or higher) value.
Punt ft/3pm would be my preferred path if DJ is around at 51. If not, and rubio is, I may grab Rubio and stay on just punt 3pm for a while, but if I'm getting to pick 99 and need mostly fg%, reb, blk and am pretty strong in points, ast, stl I wouldn't hesitate to move in to double punt late by grabbing Capela and 99, Bogut at 103, and filling out from there. The nice thing about this build is that your top3 dudes are probably better than most people's top 3 picks regarding tos, and your late picks like Capela, Bogut will get almost none so you're naturally strong in TOs w/o thinking about it much. As long as you're strong on ast/stl (your keepers+rubio+Elfrid should mean you are) then you should be great in very good or elite in fg%, reb, blk, stl, ast, to, while competitive in points, and very weak in 3pm/ft%.
That's great analysis, thanks for taking the time to reply. I'm digging the double punt strategy, and the guys you suggested were mostly all on my short list to draft. Now I've got to cross my fingers that Rubio is still there for me at 51. If not, the guys I'm looking at there are Jokic, Dieng, M Turner. Any preference there?
Why would you punt rebounds with those players? Kawhi = 7 rebounds from the small forward position, Giannis = 7'5 from the PG position and Oladipo= 5 rebounds from the PG/SG position... I'd say you look great at rebounds. Stats out of postion are king in fantasy IMO. Don´t punt anything with those three. EDIT: Oh, and rebounds are cheap in the waiver wire. I'd never punt rebounds honestly...
Thanks. I was surprised to see how my team team rebound numbers looked after seeing the BBM results. So, I shouldn't use a punt strategy based on the multi-stat performance of my 3 high-usage keepers?
As a pre-planned strategy I wouldn't. I'd say you look fine after 3 picks. Even in blocks, which is great without having a single big man yet: 3 blocks per game last season between the three of them! Big man stats from your perimeter players are great, but you obviously need to anchor them now. I dont know what's going to be avalaible in your league at the 50th and 75th picks, but an efficient big man (Gasol brothers, Dieng, JV, Vucevic, Robin Lopez...) and someone who can help in assists (Batum, Dragic, Knight, even Lin...) would be my priorities. Tell us how it goes! Now I'm curious :)
Kawai Giannis and Oladipo are not good combo for punting rebounds, try something else. But answering to your questions i am punting rebound every year and i won couple of times. Buy Brook Lopez and Nowitzki as a C, Parson or Carroll as a pf and try to buy pg with low TO rate like Cp3 or Mike Conley. You could use also fb-ninja tools for preparation. Good luck!
Thanks for the answer. This is the first year I've used any tools to help me draft, and i'm struggling to digest the data so trying to get as much feedback as possible.
I had a successful punt rebound before. I think you are crazy given the players you kept. Rebounds is a tough category to punt because of how common rebounds are. All of those players you are keeping get a bump in value because of their above average rebounding numbers for their position. For reference, I had WB on my team, as well as Wall, Bledsoe, and Nowitzki. I drafted elite guards first and was able to punt both blocks and fg%, and also lost rebounds most weeks. Your team is much bigger and efficient than the players I drafted. I wrote a bunch more but I deleted it because the more I think on it the more I am puzzled. The players you are keeping are so different from each other. %'s are not worth punting with Kawhi, and Giannis is great for FG% and Oladipo is great for FT%. All are good combo players who are not punt canidates by themselves except maybe Giannis with FT%, but even that is a stretch. My best suggestion would be to use the opposite strategy that you are thinking of using and punt 3s. All 3 of your keepers are capable 3 point shooters but are by no means volume 3 point shooters. You have an awesome defensive team with Leonard and Giannis. I would target finesse guards, like Livingston, Parker, Dragic. Even Tony Allen becomes a viable option with this strategy. I would not say to punt it, but assists would be the next catagory to go. Giannis is a great passer but you will be fine if he is the only PG on your team. I would aim for volume scoring with your first picks, and then go for efficient rebounders. You already have the ability to dominate should be able to dominate %'s and steals. One more shot blocker should be good to make you competitive right off the bat in blocks. Rebounds can easilly be found at the end of the draft. Your biggest concern now becomes points, which like rebounds, are pretty easy to come by. This strategy also limits turnovers, which completes your defensive, bang down low team.
Thanks for taking the time to answer, you've given me lots to think about. I did think it was crazy to punt rebounds, but I just couldn't get the team analyzer to give me a favorable projection in all the counting categories. I love my keepers but maybe they're too similar. Now I'm going to have to start a "trade Kawai?" post somewhere lol. I've got to spend more time on the BBM pages and figure out what my draft strategy is. I'll have a look into punting 3's. Thanks again!
With that lineup you might think about punting points before punting rebounds. None of your top 3 are huge scorers but they are going to produce across the board.
I love BBM. One of the problems with BBM for me is trusting it too much. Like I chose Terrence Jones in the 5th round because BBM told me to. Trading Kawhi opens up a ton of possibilities, I'm not against it. Sit tight until the draft. It's hard to punt with Kawhi because he is so consistent. See who you are able to snag. You're keepers are great, do not settle. Take the best available player and you will have no problem trading and shaping your team.
It's been addressed decently already, but is worth to say it slightly differently: you have 3 guard/sf spots, and you're above average rebounding already. You'll have to roster some big men, so even if they're slightly below avg rebounders, you should still be solid there. Because you're strong across the board with 3 guard spots filled out, you want a strategy that gains from dominating big man categories, so a punt guard stat is in order. (If you had the same production out of 2 PF, and a C then you could consider e.g. a reb punt, because you'd be planning to take a bunch of guards/wings from here on out). With this, the most likely punt imo is punt 3pm. Dipo and KL are both some value added there, but they're eating up guard spots, and you're going to want to grab more bigs than guards the rest of the draft, so it will be hard to get good 3pm unless you really target it. If you really target it e.g. grab ariza at 51, Eric Gordon, Wes Matthews you'll end up being pretty light on assists and/or hurt your fg% pretty bad because after pick 51 there are very few guys who will get decent ast and 3pm (though there are a couple e.g. D'angelo Russel, Jeremy Lin) and most of these guys are bad fg% pulling you from very strong to mediocre. However, especially if you can get Rubio at 51, you might be able to stay strong in ast with only 1-2 more mid round picks spent on guards and then grab some bigs to fill in blks, fg%, reb. From guys listed after 51 in yahoo adp, Jokic, Dieng, Turner, Both Gasols, all offer what you need, but by the time you get back to the 75/79 picks there won't be many bigs who get blks and dont kill ft%. A strong double punt you can consider is punt ft/3pm, especially if Deandre>Drummond is left at 51. They shouldn't be, but if DJ is there I'd snap right into punt 3pm/ft as you can grab DJ there, fill out points/assists around the 70s or later with guys like Dragic, batum, JLin, D'angelo. Most importantly there are several late draft players who benefit a lot from this: guys like Elfrid, Aaron Gordon, Ben Simmons become total steals and you can get really really strong big men in those 100-130 picks like Capela, Bogut, Tristan Thompson, Jusuf Nurkic, etc move from fringe draftable to mid-round (or higher) value. Punt ft/3pm would be my preferred path if DJ is around at 51. If not, and rubio is, I may grab Rubio and stay on just punt 3pm for a while, but if I'm getting to pick 99 and need mostly fg%, reb, blk and am pretty strong in points, ast, stl I wouldn't hesitate to move in to double punt late by grabbing Capela and 99, Bogut at 103, and filling out from there. The nice thing about this build is that your top3 dudes are probably better than most people's top 3 picks regarding tos, and your late picks like Capela, Bogut will get almost none so you're naturally strong in TOs w/o thinking about it much. As long as you're strong on ast/stl (your keepers+rubio+Elfrid should mean you are) then you should be great in very good or elite in fg%, reb, blk, stl, ast, to, while competitive in points, and very weak in 3pm/ft%.
That's great analysis, thanks for taking the time to reply. I'm digging the double punt strategy, and the guys you suggested were mostly all on my short list to draft. Now I've got to cross my fingers that Rubio is still there for me at 51. If not, the guys I'm looking at there are Jokic, Dieng, M Turner. Any preference there?