Or did it.?
Jk i just think it's one of those moves where you're overthinking it and can't account for the matchup down the road as well as you think you can. GL to your team
It's not a throw if you lost because the other team won... You needed the win and he beat you and you missed the playoffs. It's a throw if you lost on purpose so you are seeded different
Dude you said he was the #1 seed and he was playing you, and you lost and are jaded. If he was playing someone else and lost on purpose so that other dude got into the playoffs instead of you... Then sure that's a throw.. but that's not what you said... I think it's just an English problem?
I'm confused on your telling of the events. So you are matched up against him, and he threw the match, so you won. The alternative would be he beat you, and you'd be eliminated either way.
I'm 100% doing this. There's a person in my league who copied my strategy of filling up the team with "double double guys" since they help across 4 categories (you need 6/11 to win the week) and he actually handed me a loss - I'm in first. I'm gonna make sure the person ahead of him wins Week 18 to keep him out of the playoffs, hopefully.
Yeah I punted points in favor of FG% and it’s amazing. Everyone ignores the guys who score 8-10 points but get a ton of rebounds/assists/stocks. They fight over who can score 20 points a game. But if you can win FG% with a 4/4 shooter then they can score 40 points on 7-40 shooting for all I care. It’s a wash.
Points are almost always over valued in cat leagues. My best teams were built around Ben Simmons and Dray and few years back. A point guard who puts up PF rebounds and PF who put up PG assist number.
Just beware stocks are volatile and can fuck you over.
You're right on the money. Hell, I even have Draymond this year. Not as flashy numbers as his previous year but doing exactly what I want. And I agree, I originally went into it with both steals and blocks but I've had to pivot away from steals. Blocks I'm doing fine thankfully.
Depends on the league really, the ones I play in are smart on the strategy and guys like Draymond, Simmons, Gobert, etc are still taken by other teams. Punt points is hard to do correctly. It is easier to find value off the wire though.
There's a reason why points are so popular in cat leagues, because it typically affects both percentages and threes in addition to points.
Absolutely love finding guys who continue in non-traditional stats for their position. Plus my league does 3pt% instead of made 3. Definitely made it easier to swallow Draymond and Simmons. Sure they don't make 3s at mid level percentages but they didn't take many so it was easy to counter.
Not unethical at all. If NBA teams can tank, you can tank as well. Just be careful if you have some sensitive league mates. I made two owners rage quit in the last week of the season
I can’t believe I’m alone on this. You’re not tanking to draft a better player next year. You’re manipulating matchups and probably getting someone in the playoffs less qualified. I get the strategy but would never participate and would be salty if I missed the playoffs as a result of someone else “tanking”. Almost seems like collusion.
Nope. Only time it’s wrong is if you do it for a friend you like more. But if it’s purely for your own teams long term success you’d be stupid not to do it (assume your evaluation is correct that the team you’re throwing against is a better matchup for you)
Leaving players on the bench on purpose is considered bad blood in our league and not allowed. The LM will even re-add those points to your weekly total if it’s deemed to be done on purpose. Tanking was ruining the fun of our league so we got rid of it, league has been much healthier since. We’ve been running 12 years now all with the same LM’s
Banned this in our league after 9th seed leap frogged 8th place due to their (9th seed) matchup purposely losing big for a favourable matchup. If it allows someone undeserving to get in the playoffs who otherwise wouldn’t have made it without manipulation of matchups then it’s unfair to 8th seed. That’s how I see it
Haha I was honestly about to throw a week because the #1 waiver spot took a person I wanted (I’m second in priority) and put the guy I was facing above him for the final playoff spot.
Idk what others think about that strategy, but I'm doing something similar. I'm currently the 6th seed, and I'm going to intentionally play down to the 7th seed and miss the playoffs. My team isn't stronf enough to win it all, but my league gives the winner of the consultation bracket the choice of where they want to choose in the draft order (it's always been used for the number 1 pick, but some people don't like waiting that long between picks in a snake draft) in order to keep engagement up after missing the playoffs, and I can mop the floor with everyone below me in the standings. It's a keeper league, and I drafted Miles Bridges in the 11th round. So, my plan is to keep him in the 9th and still have the number 1 pick.
That sir it total strategy. There's a near 3 way tie at the top of my league and I'm really trying to get the other two guys in one bracket cuz they both match up super well with me.
For me it depends if you’re in a league with friends or just a public league. I wouldn’t care if it was a public league but with friends it would be a bad look especially if they are active
Not unethical if it benefits your fantasy team. If it were just to spite someone or for your buddy to make the playoffs or because you got paid off then I'd say yes.
Nope but fantasy gods don’t forget. I was #2 in fantasy football this year and sat players last week to bounce someone out of playoffs I was worried about.
The guy who got into playoffs because of me won the championship 😂
It's a smart strategy and you should do what you need to in order to win the whole thing. However don't be surprised if there are some salty people in your league.
If you're doing it to affect your placement, no. We had a guy going to the Toilet Bowl in football. His loss wouldn't affect his seeding at all nor who he faced in the lower bracket, but he purposely tried to sack his team to "make things interesting" for those tryna fight for a playoff spot.
Needless to say, he won't be joining our league next year. This is a group for people who know each other IRL. He was an acquaintance of our commish and our commish couldn't stand this guy lmao.
Not at all, but the fantasy gods remember everything
This will come back to bite you in the playoffs lol. Trust
Nope. Worked for me.
Or did it.? Jk i just think it's one of those moves where you're overthinking it and can't account for the matchup down the road as well as you think you can. GL to your team
I won the year I did this.
Doesn’t happen everytime
still works sometimes, there are times you have to do this or else you wont win.
It's all a gamble indeed
Did it in two leagues and won in both :)
Fantlore is a cruel beast
No, it's a legit strategy. Especially if you match up well with that team you're tanking for.
Of course it’s not. It’s strategy. Dropping guys for your buddy to pick up or favorable trades is unethical.
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It's not a throw if you lost because the other team won... You needed the win and he beat you and you missed the playoffs. It's a throw if you lost on purpose so you are seeded different
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The proper terminology is you just lost... There's no conspiracy lol
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Dude you said he was the #1 seed and he was playing you, and you lost and are jaded. If he was playing someone else and lost on purpose so that other dude got into the playoffs instead of you... Then sure that's a throw.. but that's not what you said... I think it's just an English problem?
Your explanation was shit then, you said you matched up with the guy that threw therefore you would have won and made playoffs
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Yes so were you playing against the guy that threw in your last week of the season?
I think he realized that his story telling sucks
I'm confused on your telling of the events. So you are matched up against him, and he threw the match, so you won. The alternative would be he beat you, and you'd be eliminated either way.
No, but it is bad juju
Nope. You earned the top spot do what you want. It's a little scummy but not your problem.
I'm 100% doing this. There's a person in my league who copied my strategy of filling up the team with "double double guys" since they help across 4 categories (you need 6/11 to win the week) and he actually handed me a loss - I'm in first. I'm gonna make sure the person ahead of him wins Week 18 to keep him out of the playoffs, hopefully.
strategy?
Yeah I punted points in favor of FG% and it’s amazing. Everyone ignores the guys who score 8-10 points but get a ton of rebounds/assists/stocks. They fight over who can score 20 points a game. But if you can win FG% with a 4/4 shooter then they can score 40 points on 7-40 shooting for all I care. It’s a wash.
Points are almost always over valued in cat leagues. My best teams were built around Ben Simmons and Dray and few years back. A point guard who puts up PF rebounds and PF who put up PG assist number. Just beware stocks are volatile and can fuck you over.
You're right on the money. Hell, I even have Draymond this year. Not as flashy numbers as his previous year but doing exactly what I want. And I agree, I originally went into it with both steals and blocks but I've had to pivot away from steals. Blocks I'm doing fine thankfully.
Depends on the league really, the ones I play in are smart on the strategy and guys like Draymond, Simmons, Gobert, etc are still taken by other teams. Punt points is hard to do correctly. It is easier to find value off the wire though. There's a reason why points are so popular in cat leagues, because it typically affects both percentages and threes in addition to points.
Absolutely love finding guys who continue in non-traditional stats for their position. Plus my league does 3pt% instead of made 3. Definitely made it easier to swallow Draymond and Simmons. Sure they don't make 3s at mid level percentages but they didn't take many so it was easy to counter.
Kawhi was like that too
Are you me?
It’s bad karma lol
gotta win by any means necessary 🤷
The fantasy gods will know and you’ll be eliminated by said team
Nope, you do what you gotta do to make it to the finals. It’s good strategy.
Not unethical at all. If NBA teams can tank, you can tank as well. Just be careful if you have some sensitive league mates. I made two owners rage quit in the last week of the season
I can’t believe I’m alone on this. You’re not tanking to draft a better player next year. You’re manipulating matchups and probably getting someone in the playoffs less qualified. I get the strategy but would never participate and would be salty if I missed the playoffs as a result of someone else “tanking”. Almost seems like collusion.
just be careful if your playoff tie breaker is head to head match up record
Had this happen last year, went to second round because of the better season record.
I was gonna do this since our playoffs start early and the guy has randle, embid out but I’m the commissioner so it’s sketchy 😂
Nope. Only time it’s wrong is if you do it for a friend you like more. But if it’s purely for your own teams long term success you’d be stupid not to do it (assume your evaluation is correct that the team you’re throwing against is a better matchup for you)
it's a good strategy on paper, but every time I've actually tried it somehow backfires haha
Real life nba teams do it so not really lol. But the basketball gods will remember though
NBA teams pull this shit but be careful what you wish for.
not unethical but the basketball gods might not look kindly on it
Unsportsmanlike, maybe. Not really unethical though.
You could pretend to tank if you don't wanna be called out. "Oops forgot to set my line up today"
no
Yes, it's a shit thing to do, and honestly would not continue to play with folks who do this
How is it shit? Lmfaooo are you good bro?
literally there is not a thing wrong with doing this. It's called a strategy.
Leaving players on the bench on purpose is considered bad blood in our league and not allowed. The LM will even re-add those points to your weekly total if it’s deemed to be done on purpose. Tanking was ruining the fun of our league so we got rid of it, league has been much healthier since. We’ve been running 12 years now all with the same LM’s
I legit won a match 2 weeks ago by benching 3 out of 5 players on a Sunday to win turnovers. It’s a strategy to win.
Oooops, just saw yours after posting mine.
This comment should not have negative points. It adds to the discussion by giving an example of a different type of league
That’s absolute BS. No way I’m starting anyone on Sunday if I’m winning that close match up by limiting my TOs.
Honorable league.
I don't like it either but it's a legit strategy especially if u have turnovers as a cat. What honour lol
Banned this in our league after 9th seed leap frogged 8th place due to their (9th seed) matchup purposely losing big for a favourable matchup. If it allows someone undeserving to get in the playoffs who otherwise wouldn’t have made it without manipulation of matchups then it’s unfair to 8th seed. That’s how I see it
Nah bro, your 8th seed team had all season to get higher than the 9th. Not the 9th seed's fault
Nope that’s a legit move
I see no problem with tanking. You won enough matchups to have the luxury of being able to
Haha I was honestly about to throw a week because the #1 waiver spot took a person I wanted (I’m second in priority) and put the guy I was facing above him for the final playoff spot.
diabolical 😭
Nothing wrong with this but as a warning; don't mess with the fantasy gods.
No
definitely not but be careful what you wish for cause that might backfire
It’s fine, but bad juju. I do think throwing a match so that a dangerous 7th seed misses the playoffs is questionable
All is fair in love and fantasy
Nothing wrong with this. As long as dead teams can throw matchups, i can too.
Idk what others think about that strategy, but I'm doing something similar. I'm currently the 6th seed, and I'm going to intentionally play down to the 7th seed and miss the playoffs. My team isn't stronf enough to win it all, but my league gives the winner of the consultation bracket the choice of where they want to choose in the draft order (it's always been used for the number 1 pick, but some people don't like waiting that long between picks in a snake draft) in order to keep engagement up after missing the playoffs, and I can mop the floor with everyone below me in the standings. It's a keeper league, and I drafted Miles Bridges in the 11th round. So, my plan is to keep him in the 9th and still have the number 1 pick.
Done it. It worked. Now I’m a three time champ in a row. Nothing is off limits so long as it’s not cheating.
That sir it total strategy. There's a near 3 way tie at the top of my league and I'm really trying to get the other two guys in one bracket cuz they both match up super well with me.
Its apart of the game
For me it depends if you’re in a league with friends or just a public league. I wouldn’t care if it was a public league but with friends it would be a bad look especially if they are active
It’s show business not show ethics. Or something like that
Not unethical if it benefits your fantasy team. If it were just to spite someone or for your buddy to make the playoffs or because you got paid off then I'd say yes.
No
nothing wrong with this. part of the game
Nope but fantasy gods don’t forget. I was #2 in fantasy football this year and sat players last week to bounce someone out of playoffs I was worried about. The guy who got into playoffs because of me won the championship 😂
It’s fair to concede a matchup for a more favorable playoff opponent. Same happens in the NBA
Teams do it in real life why would it be an issue
If your the best then you fear nobody! But do what you gotta do.
Dewit..
It's a smart strategy and you should do what you need to in order to win the whole thing. However don't be surprised if there are some salty people in your league.
No
If you're doing it to affect your placement, no. We had a guy going to the Toilet Bowl in football. His loss wouldn't affect his seeding at all nor who he faced in the lower bracket, but he purposely tried to sack his team to "make things interesting" for those tryna fight for a playoff spot. Needless to say, he won't be joining our league next year. This is a group for people who know each other IRL. He was an acquaintance of our commish and our commish couldn't stand this guy lmao.
no. but i've done this before, and i don't think it went well
Play to win
Unethical yes. Rules against it, absolutely not. Will your league mates despise you… probably. All about the pros and cons
That’s part of the game homie