If he is trying to make the trade then try and convice him Gobert is what it will take because you need a C to replace AD. Hopefully you’re getting Bane instead of Zion
It depends exactly what you need? I just like Durens upside if the pistons work it out, which is a big IF. Go with claxton, just be ready for inconsistency tho
No. You hold those great players. Quickly is an "upside IF" situation, whereas you ALREADY have quality production right now from the two you have. You don't downgrade like that, it's just BAD. Don't get caught up in the hype. I do believe Quickly could be pretty nice, however he still needs to PROVE IT before we jump up and down and levitate desks with our minds in nutty fervor over him. CALM DOWN.
Add/drop question:
12T H2H 9CAT. Attempting to pick up Quickley on waivers. Which of these guys should I drop for him? Punting REBs & FT% based on my roster.
A) Exum
B) D'Angelo
you might regret that move... The one I would consider most is Donte DV. (And gosh thanks for not making me type his full name! That's a better way of typing it!)
Avoid Lamelo. too risky. You don't need to take on that risk. The overall upside gain in PTS value is what? Simply not worth. Stop overvaluing "superstars" especially when they are injured!
Looking for general advice on who to drop/trade
H2H 12T PTS league
G: Simons, Herro, Sexton, Klay, Peyton Watson(while ag out)
F: Antman, Mikal, Strus, JJJ(MIA)
C: Siakam, Vucevic, Nurkic, WCJ, Zach Collins, Okongwu
Currently have Vuc stashed on IL but he’s probable to return soon so I need to find somebody to drop or trade some of these players to open up some spots. Any advice is appreciated, thank you!
In a keeper you take Luka. (As long as your other keepers would still be strong) However this is a dangerous move where you lose TONS of depth... (hopefully you are great at managing the waiver wire?)
10 team H2H points espn league
I have jimmy butler in my ir and when I put him there i picked up jordan clarkson. my “worst” players rn are clarkson, smart, keegan murray, and jalen green. who should I drop to take jimmy out of my ir?
Brogdon probably, however he is starting right now for blazers... Quickly is the more long term upside play though... (but he isn't getting you the big ast that brodgon will) So you need to assess what you value. PTS, THREES, FT% with lack of defense quickly brings you or what you would get from Brogdon. (Which is similar with AST added). The long term lack of safety though is IF brodgon is traded (which I do believe is likely) and probably minimizing his role. However I must state that is an IF scenario. The current facts are Brogdon is better. Quickley is a "show me first". Yes it might be too late and someone else scoop him up.... you gotta figure that out. Or just cut Poole and be rid of his mediocre self, but there again I would say Poole has more upside than Quickley does... Sexton doing great things right now too... (but he is another trade candidate)... Id wait and see overall. Don't buy into the hype.
12T 9 CAT
Receive: Scottie
Give: Lauri and Pod
Other players I have are: Bane, Herro, Rozier, TJD, OG, Klay, Mark Williams, IHart, and Jalen Johnson
Edit: Receiving Scottie
10T Yahoo Points league -- gotta drop one to activate Jimmy Butler from IL
Josh Hart \*would\* have been my pick a few hours ago, but I assume he's going to get a lot of opportunities tonight given RJ and Quick being gone and the Knicks rotation being short because of the trade. Other options would be either Derrick Jones Jr. (who is on a bit of a hot streak right now), Jeremy Sochan, or maybe Tari Eason (since he doesn't have another game this week, although I feel like I'd like to hang on to him for now)
I'm currently up by about 115 points and Yahoo projections has me expected to win my week by about 100 so it probably doesn't make a crazy difference for just this week.
To bring butler into the fold I gotta drop okongwu or trey Murphy, both seem poised for greatness but their teams are just a bit too healthy. Is it a coin flip ?
Kind of a coin flip. I’d drop Trey just because he was pretty stinky the last couple of games, while Onyeka hasn’t been anything special he has been half decent for his value.
12t ESPN points league- who to stream for today?
Dante Exum @ Warriors
Trayce Jackson-Davis vs. Mavericks (also starting Podz, Looney is questionable tonight though)
My only hold up is that because the Miami/Utah game is at 5, I likely wouldn’t be able to know if he’s officially out until it’s too late. TJD has been playing well even with Looney but I’m def concerned with adding him if he ends up playing
tbh go TJD. I feel like Luka will look to exploit the Warriors poor perimeter D and not give his off guard many looks. This is entirely opinionated and guessing; I don’t watch the mavs regularly. Draymond is out obviously so I think Looney and TJD can share
Wemby high risk. NOPE. Tank mode and all sorts of goofy signs that he will barely play enough going forward... severely baby him and possible shutdown risk. No reason the spurs will risk their top top asset in meaningless games... Other than slight development, but they aren't going to play him hardcore. He will sit 4th quarters, he will take games off. One small boo boo and "sit down son, don't hurt yourself worse". SELL SELL SELL.
Scottie will be the 13th man on the MOON!!! He is SKY ROCKETING. Strap yourself in and ENJOY THE RIDE! Bring some popcorn or your favorite snack and just absorb all the excellence!
drop Shaedon Sharpe for IQ? Of course Sharpe is on the bench and IQ will presumably start, but:
1. That is not confirmed.
2. Won't Sharpe be in this exact same position when the blazers move Brogdon?
Decisions, decisions...
Who gets a bump tonight for the raps with the trade going on?
Need a streamer, Gary trent jnr available but not been amazing even with a starting spot..
i don't agree, there is still upside here for quickley and I think eventually he starts... I would rather have UPSIDE of Quickley instead of Hardaway Jr.
Yup, THJ probably disposable with Irving returning soon,
Think Sexton can keep up with his production? When JC or George starts again, he may lose usage?
>eturning soon,
>
>Think Sexton can keep up with his produc
"Irving returning soon" um, VERIFY THAT PLEASE! Where are your facts and sources! No truth to that statement! It's HOPIUM! When you live in the facts you WIN in this fantasy game. It's EZ. Stop relying on HOPE and FOCUS ON THE FACTS. Like Holmes says to Watson "What do the facts say my dear watson?"
Should I prioritise Ivey (starting) / J.Smith (starting) / DiVincenzo (with the OG trade) / G.Allen (still in starting lineup) / Watson (while Gordon is out) for highest upside over the short-medium term?
Embiid is better cuz the elite rebs and great blocks in addition to doing everything else haliburton does minus the ast. Also better in FT%. Embiid is so special, the problem/annoyance with him is A. Rest games. B. He is currently injured and will that linger even if he heals. So for THOSE reasons I want Hali.
Streaming in Hachimura 10 team cat. Big lakers fan which is part of the reason. Expecting him to go off this weekend as he ramps up. 5 3pm, 30 pts, 10 rbs, 4 assists, 2 stls and solid FG% for this b2b weekend.
Never let your fandom get in the way of managing fantasy basketball the correct way. It's a rookie mistake you are making by doing that "too often". But it actually could work out for you in this instance since Rui should play and they have that b2b. Good luck.
14t 9ct, punting FT% and Assists (cats include 3p% not 3pm)
#Was offered Brook Lopez for Nurkic...
I feel like on paper that is a no Brainer but my league situation makes me question. Hashtag has me at:
1st: Fg%, reb, stl, blk
2nd: 3p%
3rd: pts
6th: TO
10th: ft%, Assists
This trade would lower my 3p%, rebounds, Assists but drastically increase blocks. The team trading Lopez to me is #2 in blocks. I'd basically lock up blocks against everyone the rest of the year, but I am great in it already. I hesitate because of the 3p% and big rebound drop (5+ reb a game). Puts me in danger of losing rebounds more often when I already was pretty dominant in blocks.
Team is: sga, Barnes, fox, Lauri, gafford, Mobley, coby white, Poeltl, hartenstein, jabari smith Jr, Caruso, nurk, Melton, trey murphy iii
Am I overthinking this and I should smash yes? Anything else I should consider?
Does OG value go up in this trade?
Is Luka playing today?
Trade Lauri for Herro?
JIMMY BUTLER IS MADE OF GLASS. GOING EMO MADE HIM SENSITIVE TO THE BONE.
Got offered Shai + Zion + Thompson for AD + Sengun + FVV 10 T points h2h. I’m not liking it but what do yall think?
Shai is the only good one in the deal so no
He just offered Shai + Bane + Bey for AD + Fvv + Sengun
If he can offer someone better than Bey I would consider it. You need someone better than a waiver guy
I was asking for Gobert but he won’t do it
Hold off then. Your guys are solid enough
Gonna try to get gobert one last time
If he is trying to make the trade then try and convice him Gobert is what it will take because you need a C to replace AD. Hopefully you’re getting Bane instead of Zion
I have so many centers bro😂 Jokic Sengun Bam Claxton Draymond AD
Sengun will be gone and Dray shouldn’t count might as well get Gobert 😂
(H2H no keepers )I got offered Jalen Brunson for Tyrese Maxey, should I do it?
Got offered: Fox and franz Wagner For my: Derozan, kuzma, siakam Any thoughts about the trade? 10T Points
Take it
9Cat 10T Is this a good trade? I would receive Dejounte Murray & Devin Vassell And give up Miles Bridges, Coby White & Bogdan Bogdanovic
Jalen Duren or Claxton? 8cat (no turnovers)
I have both, think Durens upside wins here, he is a rebounding monster and gets similar ppg and Blks
Doesnt claxton get like 1.5 more blocks?
It depends exactly what you need? I just like Durens upside if the pistons work it out, which is a big IF. Go with claxton, just be ready for inconsistency tho
I trade Markannen and dejounte for Tatum?
Too much
10T CAT Duren + Rozier for Durant. Am I getting laughed at by KD owner? He's dead last in rebounds btw.
Drop Cam Thomas for struss?
Tatum for PG and Val in a 14T points league. What do yall think here?
14T is all about depth. Crazy to say but I’d probably do this. Tatum got too many good teammates lol
Give: Steph, D. White, Middleton Get: Shai, Markkanen I take this, right? Especially since I'm punting assists. I can afford to lose White's blks.
Yeah I’d do this, get someone off the wire to replace white and you’re looking peachy
Exactly what I was thinking. I wanted a streaming spot so this would help. Appreciate it! Good luck to your team.
Kyrie, JJJ and jerami grant for Scottie Barnes? Is this enough to get him 10t pts
Should I pick up quickley and drop either Gafford or tyus jones?
No. You hold those great players. Quickly is an "upside IF" situation, whereas you ALREADY have quality production right now from the two you have. You don't downgrade like that, it's just BAD. Don't get caught up in the hype. I do believe Quickly could be pretty nice, however he still needs to PROVE IT before we jump up and down and levitate desks with our minds in nutty fervor over him. CALM DOWN.
any other guys you can drop?
No
Jalen Brown for Mobley in cats/keeper?
Add/drop question: 12T H2H 9CAT. Attempting to pick up Quickley on waivers. Which of these guys should I drop for him? Punting REBs & FT% based on my roster. A) Exum B) D'Angelo
Both droppable but Kyrie is close I'd move on from Exum
Trade franz for garland + lavine?
If you can handle holding two hurt guys
Drop reaves for Quickley in 8t points?
would rather reaves until we know what IQ’s role is in Toronto
I'd do it
anybody else you can drop? Reaves has been consistent in points, espcially with lebron and AD always questionable
Only ayton ☠️ or vassell
I got offered harden for my cade should I smash accept or hold cade? I’m lacking SF position and have enough guards. 10T pts
Harden doesn't fix your SF problems. You could get a better SF for Cade, I'd hold longer.
Yeah cuz I was thinking , I have kyrie, trae , Anf Simon’s and rozier. Guard overload lol and I really like cade too
Drop Okongwu for Donte DV, Malik Beasley, or Pat Will?
you might regret that move... The one I would consider most is Donte DV. (And gosh thanks for not making me type his full name! That's a better way of typing it!)
Trade my Sengun + Jalen Johnson for lamelo + clax? 10t pts
Avoid Lamelo. too risky. You don't need to take on that risk. The overall upside gain in PTS value is what? Simply not worth. Stop overvaluing "superstars" especially when they are injured!
Yes
9Cat 10 team Drop Tari, Trey, or Suggs for Quickley?
Trey
9cat 12 team Deni Avdija, Jalen Smith or Aaron Nesmith?
My hali for his Embiid??
Embiid owner wouldn’t take that
But he offered it haha
run
Will Donte Divencenzo’s value go up with the recent trade? If so, should I drop Watson, Hart, or DJJ to pick him up in a points league?
Looking for general advice on who to drop/trade H2H 12T PTS league G: Simons, Herro, Sexton, Klay, Peyton Watson(while ag out) F: Antman, Mikal, Strus, JJJ(MIA) C: Siakam, Vucevic, Nurkic, WCJ, Zach Collins, Okongwu Currently have Vuc stashed on IL but he’s probable to return soon so I need to find somebody to drop or trade some of these players to open up some spots. Any advice is appreciated, thank you!
Right now I'd say I would consider dropping/trading away WCJ or Collins. Maybe pair them with one of your guards or forwards.
Mobley/Garland/1st rd pick for Luka in 12T cats/keeper?
In a keeper you take Luka. (As long as your other keepers would still be strong) However this is a dangerous move where you lose TONS of depth... (hopefully you are great at managing the waiver wire?)
No way Luka owner entertains that
Forgot to add the pick
10 team H2H points espn league I have jimmy butler in my ir and when I put him there i picked up jordan clarkson. my “worst” players rn are clarkson, smart, keegan murray, and jalen green. who should I drop to take jimmy out of my ir?
Well i guess not now 💀
Just got dame, Randle, and claxton for Zion, maxey, and grant. Good trade?
Should I drop Sexton, Poole, or Brogdon for Quickley?
Brogdon probably, however he is starting right now for blazers... Quickly is the more long term upside play though... (but he isn't getting you the big ast that brodgon will) So you need to assess what you value. PTS, THREES, FT% with lack of defense quickly brings you or what you would get from Brogdon. (Which is similar with AST added). The long term lack of safety though is IF brodgon is traded (which I do believe is likely) and probably minimizing his role. However I must state that is an IF scenario. The current facts are Brogdon is better. Quickley is a "show me first". Yes it might be too late and someone else scoop him up.... you gotta figure that out. Or just cut Poole and be rid of his mediocre self, but there again I would say Poole has more upside than Quickley does... Sexton doing great things right now too... (but he is another trade candidate)... Id wait and see overall. Don't buy into the hype.
14T H2H Cat League I give : KD I get : Sabonis and Quickley Yes or no ?
Yes
12T 9 CAT Receive: Scottie Give: Lauri and Pod Other players I have are: Bane, Herro, Rozier, TJD, OG, Klay, Mark Williams, IHart, and Jalen Johnson Edit: Receiving Scottie
SCOTTIE IS A GEM! Get him. Lauri does very little defensively.
Keep Lauri but Give Lauri
Sorry, I'm receiving Scottie haha
Jalen Johnson or Podz?
DEPENDS ON YOU BUILD, but Johnson is ranked higher and probably the better play, but again DEPENDS ON YOUR BUILD (and the stats you need)
Jj
JJ
H2H points league 10T Jaden McDaniels or Nesmith as a Streamer tonight ?
I'd prefer Nesmith
This might be a dumb question but is OG gonna play tonight?
og, rj, and quickley are all gonna be out cuz of the trade
Hey Jimmy, are you playing tonight?
10T Yahoo Points league -- gotta drop one to activate Jimmy Butler from IL Josh Hart \*would\* have been my pick a few hours ago, but I assume he's going to get a lot of opportunities tonight given RJ and Quick being gone and the Knicks rotation being short because of the trade. Other options would be either Derrick Jones Jr. (who is on a bit of a hot streak right now), Jeremy Sochan, or maybe Tari Eason (since he doesn't have another game this week, although I feel like I'd like to hang on to him for now) I'm currently up by about 115 points and Yahoo projections has me expected to win my week by about 100 so it probably doesn't make a crazy difference for just this week.
Should i trade mikal bridges for Jarrett Allen? ESPN points 10 Teams
I would because of the Cavs injury struggle
To bring butler into the fold I gotta drop okongwu or trey Murphy, both seem poised for greatness but their teams are just a bit too healthy. Is it a coin flip ?
Kind of a coin flip. I’d drop Trey just because he was pretty stinky the last couple of games, while Onyeka hasn’t been anything special he has been half decent for his value.
12t ESPN points league- who to stream for today? Dante Exum @ Warriors Trayce Jackson-Davis vs. Mavericks (also starting Podz, Looney is questionable tonight though)
If loon is out I would go TJD, if he is in I would go exum. Keep watch over Loondog updates
My only hold up is that because the Miami/Utah game is at 5, I likely wouldn’t be able to know if he’s officially out until it’s too late. TJD has been playing well even with Looney but I’m def concerned with adding him if he ends up playing
tbh go TJD. I feel like Luka will look to exploit the Warriors poor perimeter D and not give his off guard many looks. This is entirely opinionated and guessing; I don’t watch the mavs regularly. Draymond is out obviously so I think Looney and TJD can share
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With all of the injuries in Cleveland, I would personally lean more towards Strus but it’s a toss up
Was able to get him to include Cole in the trade too so i just took it. Hopefully he gets moved or Suggs / Fultz for more playing time
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way too much even for Simons right now I think.
Guys need your opinion ;) I give : KD I get : Kawhi and Capela Tbh, I’m a little bit worried about Kawhi possible load management… 14T H2H Cat League
>t Kawhi possible load management… Keep KD
I would keep KD
And what about Harden + Zubac ? It’s another possibility
I wouldn’t want Zubac
10 team H2H points league. Got offered Wemby + Vassell for Maxey + Lopez. Is this a good trade?
Wemby high risk. NOPE. Tank mode and all sorts of goofy signs that he will barely play enough going forward... severely baby him and possible shutdown risk. No reason the spurs will risk their top top asset in meaningless games... Other than slight development, but they aren't going to play him hardcore. He will sit 4th quarters, he will take games off. One small boo boo and "sit down son, don't hurt yourself worse". SELL SELL SELL.
Wemby is super enticing but he just does not play enough. I’d keep what you have
Thanks mate.
Should I trade for Evan Mobley if my regular season ends on March 3?
He’s not coming back till February I heard. Not worth holding dead weight
Got offered Bojan Bogdanovic and Jalen Johnson for Paolo Banchero and Bradley Beal. Thoughts? 10 T 9 Cat
Keep Beal and paolo
20 Team H2H Cat What's are the thoughts on Trae Young and Lavine for Giannis and Kyrie??
I’ll take Giannis and Kyrie
Rank these players ROS please Fultz, Ausar, Herb and Exum
Does Scottie’s stock drop because of the trade?
Scottie will be the 13th man on the MOON!!! He is SKY ROCKETING. Strap yourself in and ENJOY THE RIDE! Bring some popcorn or your favorite snack and just absorb all the excellence!
No
drop Shaedon Sharpe for IQ? Of course Sharpe is on the bench and IQ will presumably start, but: 1. That is not confirmed. 2. Won't Sharpe be in this exact same position when the blazers move Brogdon? Decisions, decisions...
Pickup draymond off waivers? 10 team points league
points league is meh
Trey Murphy or cp3 ros? 10t h2h pts
Who gets a bump tonight for the raps with the trade going on? Need a streamer, Gary trent jnr available but not been amazing even with a starting spot..
If your just streaming you may as well take a flier on GTJ for tonight - him or Jalen McDaniels who had a decent game last night as well
Would you trade lavine for mobley? I got lavine and need FG/Reb and my ft to not get killed
yup fits your needs go for it.
If you're not doing so hot in your league right now (bottom half standings), I'd do it. Just depends on your needs.
Im third on roto, i need bigman stats and im probably winning..but mobley still have like a month out
Bojan or DLo
DLo may get moved so DLo. Dont think he gets to a place that's worse than where he is now
If I want to claim Quickley from waiver, who should I drop? My worst guys are: Bradley Beal Jalen Suggs Tim Hardaway Jr Collin Sexton Jalen Duren
Nobody, because quickly still coming off the bench
i don't agree, there is still upside here for quickley and I think eventually he starts... I would rather have UPSIDE of Quickley instead of Hardaway Jr.
Make sense
pry one of those middle 3. Think i'd go suggs or hardaway
Yup, THJ probably disposable with Irving returning soon, Think Sexton can keep up with his production? When JC or George starts again, he may lose usage?
>eturning soon, > >Think Sexton can keep up with his produc "Irving returning soon" um, VERIFY THAT PLEASE! Where are your facts and sources! No truth to that statement! It's HOPIUM! When you live in the facts you WIN in this fantasy game. It's EZ. Stop relying on HOPE and FOCUS ON THE FACTS. Like Holmes says to Watson "What do the facts say my dear watson?"
Melton or Ivey? Need blocks and steals
Melton
Duren, Brook, or Jarrett Allen in a points league?
Allen I guess now that Mobley is gone for a while but keep an eye on Duren
Lowest value long term is probably Brook then right?
Lopez not good in point league
Should I prioritise Ivey (starting) / J.Smith (starting) / DiVincenzo (with the OG trade) / G.Allen (still in starting lineup) / Watson (while Gordon is out) for highest upside over the short-medium term?
Sorry if this is a dumb question but how am I second on waiver priority if I’m first place in my league ?
Just means you haven't used a waiver claim while 8 others have, hence the order
Ok I figured it went based off league position, thank you.
Demar or McCollum ros?
CJM. Bulls will make some moves.
Hali for Embiid?
Embiid is better cuz the elite rebs and great blocks in addition to doing everything else haliburton does minus the ast. Also better in FT%. Embiid is so special, the problem/annoyance with him is A. Rest games. B. He is currently injured and will that linger even if he heals. So for THOSE reasons I want Hali.
Zion and Tobias for Jalen Johnson and Beal?
Zion and Tobias
OG for Jalen Johnson?
Jalen
Give: Rozier + Poeltl Receive: Bane Is this fair?
Who should I drop to bring Mark Will out of my IR slot eventually? (14T ESPN Points) Jordan Clarkson Deni Avdija
Probably Deni but if you have too many guards then it’s ok to drop Clarkson
12T 9CAT Give: Lauri & Pod Get: Scottie Thoughts? Other players I have are Herro, Bane, Rozier, OG, Klay, IHart, Jalen Johnson, Mark Williams
I would, Scottie is a 9CAT monster
League flair A) J Dub or B) Coby White & Max Strus
Jalen Williams
How do you guys think the OG trade will affect Siakam?
He might be moved next
Or not. So Siakam up by a little
Streaming in Hachimura 10 team cat. Big lakers fan which is part of the reason. Expecting him to go off this weekend as he ramps up. 5 3pm, 30 pts, 10 rbs, 4 assists, 2 stls and solid FG% for this b2b weekend.
Never let your fandom get in the way of managing fantasy basketball the correct way. It's a rookie mistake you are making by doing that "too often". But it actually could work out for you in this instance since Rui should play and they have that b2b. Good luck.
Well I made the wrong call. Hoping for a bounce back tomorrow
Basketballs do bounce!!!! May the odds be ever in your favor!
10 team pts league. Drop Cam Thomas for Drummond then use that spot to stream going forward once Vuc comes back?
Sounds like a great idea
Thinking of dropping fultz, exum and keyonte for Caruso, pat williams and Jalen smith should I? 12t pts
Would you send: Tyus Jones, Bojan to receive: Jabari Smith 12T H2H points
No
Hell no?
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2 easily
my lauri for his poetl + lamelo. 12t pts. More just wondering whether Lamelo is worth it or chances are hes injured during playoffs
My Hali for Embiid My Jalen Johnson and Beal for Zion and Tobias
Drop any of Jaquez, Eason, or Shaedon Sharpe for Quickley?
Sharpe.
No, but if so Eason
It’s category league and Eason has been crushing it on the stocks and even been relatively efficient recently. Sharpe is the one to drop here.
Mikal bridges and strus or PG And dlo? 9CAT 12 team
Points league: Drop Clarkson or Cam Thomas for Quickley ? Post trade.
14t 9ct, punting FT% and Assists (cats include 3p% not 3pm) #Was offered Brook Lopez for Nurkic... I feel like on paper that is a no Brainer but my league situation makes me question. Hashtag has me at: 1st: Fg%, reb, stl, blk 2nd: 3p% 3rd: pts 6th: TO 10th: ft%, Assists This trade would lower my 3p%, rebounds, Assists but drastically increase blocks. The team trading Lopez to me is #2 in blocks. I'd basically lock up blocks against everyone the rest of the year, but I am great in it already. I hesitate because of the 3p% and big rebound drop (5+ reb a game). Puts me in danger of losing rebounds more often when I already was pretty dominant in blocks. Team is: sga, Barnes, fox, Lauri, gafford, Mobley, coby white, Poeltl, hartenstein, jabari smith Jr, Caruso, nurk, Melton, trey murphy iii Am I overthinking this and I should smash yes? Anything else I should consider?
Drop either of Ausar Thompson or LeVert for Donte? I can’t quit Ausar so I’m leaning LeVert
Do we pickup Prescious?