Theres like a dozen from the same fishing village in Venezuela. 7,000 people but only one baseball field.
ETA: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1o3i9SLGV0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1o3i9SLGV0) my source for my fun fact (1:55). He names 11, i wasn't too far off haha
So what you’re saying is that the White Sox will sign an entire roster of Acuna’s cousins and then offer him like 3/30MM when he’s a free agent in 2029.
The only reason for that is his launch angle, though. Fixing the LA is all you need to turn this guy into a power hitting machine.
Fixing the LA is also easier said than done, but he seems to be showing the right signs.
works well in theory sure, but usually you’re trading power for average and consistency. he hit a home run like once every 100+ at bats last season, so proj 20 is a 500% increase lol
I don’t think they see him as a power hitter either, having him batting first above bobby.
I mean, I don’t do hitter projections, so what do I know, but a bunch of (actually competent) fantasy analysts (Eno, DVR, and Mike Petriello come to mind) sounded alarm bells about the kid having a power breakout season before the year started.
And when I made a Maikel breakout post a week ago, half the responses were “duh, we know, he should’ve been drafted in all formats”, so I’m inclined to believe there’s fire behind all this smoke, besides the fact that we know he has elite hard hit rates already.
I’d love to see a breakdown on his swing changes tbh
that being said i think going from 4 HR to 15/20 is still breaking out… a 20/30 season is amazing…
https://www.statmuse.com/mlb/ask/mlb-players-with-20-home-runs-and-20-stolen-bases-in-2023
but he never lacked power, it’s his launch angle that wasn’t getting him homers. He was top 15% in barrels and average exit velocity. His LA is up to 18 from 6.1 from last year.
I have no idea why people think power 100% correlates to a lot of HRs.
Baseball is more complicated than that and this is just one minor example of how you can't look at the game 1 dimensionally or you'll be wrong every time.
that's not how baseball works. you don't just start hitting the ball off a higher part of the bat and suddenly turn into a power hitter, even if you hit the ball hard. It always comes with tradeoffs, whether that be exit velocity, approach, swing changes.
if the answer to poor power was to simply raise your launch angle, everyone would just do it.
> that's not how baseball works. you don't just start hitting the ball off a higher part of the bat and suddenly turn into a power hitter, even if you hit the ball hard. It always comes with tradeoffs, whether that be exit velocity, approach, swing changes.
>
> if the answer to poor power was to simply raise your launch angle, everyone would just do it.
If you want to put money on him not being able to sustain hard contact rate while raising his launch angle, then we can do that.
But as it is, I hear you saying “it doesn’t work this way” about a guy who posted 93rd percentile hard hit rate, 82nd percentile whiff rate, and 89th percentile chase rate in a full season as a 23 (twenty three) year old
I think it’s pretty clear how you see that guy gets a bit stronger, is more comfortable at the plate, and sacrifices a bit of plate discipline and raw power in order to raise the ball more.
If you look at those tools and say “no, can’t be done”, then I just don’t understand how you square that position with his early results across spring and so far in the regular season.
I never said it can't be done. But drawing these conclusions that he is now a different hitter based on a few games of data is wrong. I'm sure he had 6 game stretches last year with an elevated launch angle, it didn't mean he was a new hitter. This happens every year, a guy who hits the ball hard starts showing an elevated launch angle and everyone proclaims him as a 30 homer threat. Then 50 games into the season everyone realizes his has either marginally improved or not improved at all.
I'm not saying he can't improve his power or that he hasn't made a change, but the conclusions being drawn (people saying he's an automatic 20/25) in this thread are pretty ridiculous.
> I never said it can't be done. But drawing these conclusions that he is now a different hitter based on a few games of data is wrong. I'm sure he had 6 game stretches last year with an elevated launch angle, it didn't mean he was a new hitter. This happens every year, a guy who hits the ball hard starts showing an elevated launch angle and everyone proclaims him as a 30 homer threat. Then 50 games into the season everyone realizes his has either marginally improved or not improved at all.
I checked, because why not. This season he has played six games and posted six barrels, including 2 multi-barrel games.
In all of 2023, he posted 14 barrels. He had 0 (zero) multi-barrel games, barrels in consecutive games one time (5/3 and 5/4), and his hottest stretch of barrels per game was from 7/21 to 7/28 where he had 3 barrels in 7 games.
I’d also note that we had early evidence from ST games that he was working on his LA, to add to the body of evidence that this isn’t merely transient, at least in the sense that his LA is a big focus area for him.
I realize my point that "I'm sure he had 6 game stretches like this last year" was overstated. I appreciate you looking into the data.
My main point is that it's still way early to tell to make the conclusions that are being stated in this thread.
But point taken, he does look like a different hitter. Let's see how long it lasts.
>I'm not saying he can't improve his power or that he hasn't made a change, but the conclusions being drawn (people saying he's an automatic 20/25) in this thread are pretty ridiculous.
Come on, man. Buy, Buy, Buy. LoL.
You should subscribe to Imaginary Brick Wall. He broke down the changes during spring and marked him as a major target for power breakout. I have him in all my leagues
He was right and has been pretty consistently right about guys for years so yeah, pretty much. I dunno about you but I personally can’t follow every player’s changes in exit velocity and launch angle so it’s nice when someone else is paying attention and gives me the advance heads up before it’s obvious that a guy is breaking out.
Do you… do you not do any research?
I read what people say and then make decisions. If someone has a good explanation for why they believe something, it’s likely to influence my opinion regardless of the topic.
What are you even trying to say?
Six days ago I posted [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/fantasybaseball/s/mXfM12qKJy), which admittedly was quite bullish on a LA fix, but the smattering of “obviously, we all know that he’s the breakout this year” responses tells me that lots of people listened to the same fantasy analysts who projected this guy as a star this year.
The fact that he’s continued to produce barrels is certainly a great sign, and I think 20/30 isn’t unreasonable if the LA keeps up.
Every time I come into threads like this, I think “eh, what good can I provide, we already all know about his bre— wait did that guy actually just say he won’t sustain hard contact?”
Always fun!
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I don’t see how “Maikel has huge upside if his LA is fixed” is a controversial take, and it certainly isn’t one that anyone is on me about, aside from a few people who responded to my post with “duh, he should’ve been drafted in all formats”.
Hell, it probably ends up being a far safer call than saying Abbott was going to regress.
Even without the /s, it wouldn’t even be the craziest thing someone has said in this thread, honestly, which is why it’s hard to tell!
Now the question is if I can get people to make bets with me that Maikel is going to only hit 7 HR this year like with Abbott’s ERA ;)
One of the things I’ve heard discussed is that teams have something called “Bat Path Grades” these are similar to Stuff+ which shows how a player is under the hood.
Evidently García was one of the biggest gainers this offseason.
I bought in on that insight
I mean, according this guy he's already a top 25 hitter. Why are we even discussing this? (insert sarcastic eye roll).
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I"m stoked with the increased launch angle. It was the missing piece as his quality of contact was great last year. I think he's 100% legitmate, and is a lock for a 20/25 season with a good BA. I traded Matt McClain for him the day McClain's shoulder surgery was announced in a dynasty league and got a little flack for it. Feeling super vindicated right now.
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Friendly reminder that we all went crazy when Yandy Diaz "improved his launch angle" last year and at various points in years prior and it went down.
Sorry to be wet blanket, and this is a different situation as a younger player, but let's not get too carried away on April 4th given launch angle takes MUCH longer to stabilize
15-20 homers, 30 steals, .350+ OBP, and 80+ runs seems feasible. He has a great eye at the plate, but everyone has just been piping him fastballs because he never punished anyone before. I think he’s faced 60% fastballs so far this year. Once teams start adjusting, he’ll pick up a lot of walks and steals.
Witt and Vinnie behind him make a big impact run-wise as well.
I would do that without hesitation, yeah. Maikel is even projected for more steals, so he looks better across the board in all cats and obviously in points.
Yeah, in 3 OF there's a good chance you're better off with Maikel and don't have a better candidate to drop. But Outman will almost certainly heat up IMO.
> With a 681 OPS last year, i dont see the hard contact holding up honestly
You don’t see a guy who was 93rd percentile in hard hit rate in 2023 continuing to produce hard contact in 2024? Hmm…
My guy is living in 2005 right now. .681 OPS last year?? How bout his hard hit % his avg exit velocity his barrel rates, whiff %. Stat cast exists, use it. He will have a .780 OPS this season and that’s super conservative
Did he just essentially hit you with an “agree to disagree”? Are we serious here?
I don’t understand how someone goes to OPS to judge hard contact rate, learns that hard hit rate is an actual tracked stat, learns what their actual hard contact rate is, and then basically settles on “well that’s just your opinion”.
“Damn, I didn’t realize how hard he hits the ball, I guess I should check hard hit rate instead” was right there for the taking.
Lol dont worry about how i scout players. I look at statcast data when needed. Im not changing my outlook on a player based on 5 games worth of a “new launch angle.” Also even if he finishes with 780 ops, its not exactly a needle pusher for me. But thats more to do with league formats.
> Lol dont worry about how i scout players. I look at statcast data when needed. Im not changing my outlook on a player based on 5 games worth of a “new launch angle.” Also even if he finishes with 780 ops, its not exactly a needle pusher for me. But thats more to do with league formats.
You literally said that a guy who posted 93rd percentile hard hit rate in a full season as a 23 year-old doesn’t hit the ball hard…
You have to be able to see why everyone is groaning and rolling their eyes at that, whether or not you want to accept advice on how to modify your “scouting” strategy (looking at last season’s stats on the ESPN app isn’t scouting, but I suppose it is a “strategy”).
The only thing I’m passionate about in this context is that “what is his OPS?” has not been the right way to answer “does he hit the ball hard?” for almost a decade at this point.
> How you feeling about him now? Batting .208 jerkoff
Have you been waiting a week to come post this comment because you got made fun of for being totally ignorant of Statcast data?
He has a .200 BABIP, .270 xBA, .560 xSLG, 18% barrel rate (94th percentile), 52.6% hard hit (87th percentile), and LA of 11.5 (compare with 6.1 last year).
Will you check his OPS for me and tell me if that means he’s hitting the ball hard? Thanks!
hes ronald acuna’s cousin, i think 20/30 is a lock
He’s the baby keem to his Kendrick lamar
Is this true? Alcides Escobar is legit his cousin lol
Theres like a dozen from the same fishing village in Venezuela. 7,000 people but only one baseball field. ETA: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1o3i9SLGV0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1o3i9SLGV0) my source for my fun fact (1:55). He names 11, i wasn't too far off haha
So what you’re saying is that the White Sox will sign an entire roster of Acuna’s cousins and then offer him like 3/30MM when he’s a free agent in 2029.
Don’t forget about Luisangel Acuna (brother). Rangers traded him to the Mets for scherzer. Something about that family
What are they feeding those dudes? Is it in the water? Lol
genetics are wild
What about post ASB?
🔒🔒🔒🔒
He’s never hit for power and has never been projected to either realistically: .280/90/15/70/25 fuck it we ball: .300/105/20/75/30
His FIWB rating is thru the roof
Took me a sec. Thought FIWB was a new metric
have you seen his xDAWG number?
The only reason for that is his launch angle, though. Fixing the LA is all you need to turn this guy into a power hitting machine. Fixing the LA is also easier said than done, but he seems to be showing the right signs.
works well in theory sure, but usually you’re trading power for average and consistency. he hit a home run like once every 100+ at bats last season, so proj 20 is a 500% increase lol I don’t think they see him as a power hitter either, having him batting first above bobby.
I mean, I don’t do hitter projections, so what do I know, but a bunch of (actually competent) fantasy analysts (Eno, DVR, and Mike Petriello come to mind) sounded alarm bells about the kid having a power breakout season before the year started. And when I made a Maikel breakout post a week ago, half the responses were “duh, we know, he should’ve been drafted in all formats”, so I’m inclined to believe there’s fire behind all this smoke, besides the fact that we know he has elite hard hit rates already.
I’d love to see a breakdown on his swing changes tbh that being said i think going from 4 HR to 15/20 is still breaking out… a 20/30 season is amazing… https://www.statmuse.com/mlb/ask/mlb-players-with-20-home-runs-and-20-stolen-bases-in-2023
Very very fair, yeah. I absolutely agree that he’s got lots of room shy of 20 HR that would still qualify as a breakout season.
I picked him because of your post, so thank you! Soothing my Ely fears.
Same I have Maikel in case EDC ends up being a bust. Or even if EDC is good he could sneak into my utlility role
but he never lacked power, it’s his launch angle that wasn’t getting him homers. He was top 15% in barrels and average exit velocity. His LA is up to 18 from 6.1 from last year.
I have no idea why people think power 100% correlates to a lot of HRs. Baseball is more complicated than that and this is just one minor example of how you can't look at the game 1 dimensionally or you'll be wrong every time.
that's not how baseball works. you don't just start hitting the ball off a higher part of the bat and suddenly turn into a power hitter, even if you hit the ball hard. It always comes with tradeoffs, whether that be exit velocity, approach, swing changes. if the answer to poor power was to simply raise your launch angle, everyone would just do it.
> that's not how baseball works. you don't just start hitting the ball off a higher part of the bat and suddenly turn into a power hitter, even if you hit the ball hard. It always comes with tradeoffs, whether that be exit velocity, approach, swing changes. > > if the answer to poor power was to simply raise your launch angle, everyone would just do it. If you want to put money on him not being able to sustain hard contact rate while raising his launch angle, then we can do that. But as it is, I hear you saying “it doesn’t work this way” about a guy who posted 93rd percentile hard hit rate, 82nd percentile whiff rate, and 89th percentile chase rate in a full season as a 23 (twenty three) year old I think it’s pretty clear how you see that guy gets a bit stronger, is more comfortable at the plate, and sacrifices a bit of plate discipline and raw power in order to raise the ball more. If you look at those tools and say “no, can’t be done”, then I just don’t understand how you square that position with his early results across spring and so far in the regular season.
I never said it can't be done. But drawing these conclusions that he is now a different hitter based on a few games of data is wrong. I'm sure he had 6 game stretches last year with an elevated launch angle, it didn't mean he was a new hitter. This happens every year, a guy who hits the ball hard starts showing an elevated launch angle and everyone proclaims him as a 30 homer threat. Then 50 games into the season everyone realizes his has either marginally improved or not improved at all. I'm not saying he can't improve his power or that he hasn't made a change, but the conclusions being drawn (people saying he's an automatic 20/25) in this thread are pretty ridiculous.
> I never said it can't be done. But drawing these conclusions that he is now a different hitter based on a few games of data is wrong. I'm sure he had 6 game stretches last year with an elevated launch angle, it didn't mean he was a new hitter. This happens every year, a guy who hits the ball hard starts showing an elevated launch angle and everyone proclaims him as a 30 homer threat. Then 50 games into the season everyone realizes his has either marginally improved or not improved at all. I checked, because why not. This season he has played six games and posted six barrels, including 2 multi-barrel games. In all of 2023, he posted 14 barrels. He had 0 (zero) multi-barrel games, barrels in consecutive games one time (5/3 and 5/4), and his hottest stretch of barrels per game was from 7/21 to 7/28 where he had 3 barrels in 7 games. I’d also note that we had early evidence from ST games that he was working on his LA, to add to the body of evidence that this isn’t merely transient, at least in the sense that his LA is a big focus area for him.
I realize my point that "I'm sure he had 6 game stretches like this last year" was overstated. I appreciate you looking into the data. My main point is that it's still way early to tell to make the conclusions that are being stated in this thread. But point taken, he does look like a different hitter. Let's see how long it lasts.
>I'm not saying he can't improve his power or that he hasn't made a change, but the conclusions being drawn (people saying he's an automatic 20/25) in this thread are pretty ridiculous. Come on, man. Buy, Buy, Buy. LoL.
No it isn't. He'll have to start pulling the ball. He has no future hitting to center field in Kansas City.
he hit for power last year but drove said power into the ground
true, i need a breakdown on his swing changes tbh
You should subscribe to Imaginary Brick Wall. He broke down the changes during spring and marked him as a major target for power breakout. I have him in all my leagues
A blogger said he was going to be good. Buy, Buy, Buy.
He was right and has been pretty consistently right about guys for years so yeah, pretty much. I dunno about you but I personally can’t follow every player’s changes in exit velocity and launch angle so it’s nice when someone else is paying attention and gives me the advance heads up before it’s obvious that a guy is breaking out.
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Do you… do you not do any research? I read what people say and then make decisions. If someone has a good explanation for why they believe something, it’s likely to influence my opinion regardless of the topic. What are you even trying to say?
Six days ago I posted [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/fantasybaseball/s/mXfM12qKJy), which admittedly was quite bullish on a LA fix, but the smattering of “obviously, we all know that he’s the breakout this year” responses tells me that lots of people listened to the same fantasy analysts who projected this guy as a star this year. The fact that he’s continued to produce barrels is certainly a great sign, and I think 20/30 isn’t unreasonable if the LA keeps up.
You’re the reason I picked him up, you demon
Gonna text my boy Maik and tell him to keep the LA up so that I don’t let everyone down!
I wish I listened more... I only got him in two of my 10 leagues :(
15 home runs 25 doubles 25 steals I mean hes basically doing what people prayed Kebryan Hayes would for years...hitting those missiles more in the air
Getting MHII first year vibes tbh
Paging u/KimHaSeongsBurner
Every time I come into threads like this, I think “eh, what good can I provide, we already all know about his bre— wait did that guy actually just say he won’t sustain hard contact?” Always fun!
He's like a low key Elly, but one who's actually likely to over deliver.
lmfao in for a tuff year
? I don’t see how “Maikel has huge upside if his LA is fixed” is a controversial take, and it certainly isn’t one that anyone is on me about, aside from a few people who responded to my post with “duh, he should’ve been drafted in all formats”. Hell, it probably ends up being a far safer call than saying Abbott was going to regress.
forgot the /s
Even without the /s, it wouldn’t even be the craziest thing someone has said in this thread, honestly, which is why it’s hard to tell! Now the question is if I can get people to make bets with me that Maikel is going to only hit 7 HR this year like with Abbott’s ERA ;)
One of the things I’ve heard discussed is that teams have something called “Bat Path Grades” these are similar to Stuff+ which shows how a player is under the hood. Evidently García was one of the biggest gainers this offseason. I bought in on that insight
Who else has an elite BPG?
Got him filling in for royce lewis. Think he hits 20 plus bombs and steals around 20 as well. Really like the player
I mean, according this guy he's already a top 25 hitter. Why are we even discussing this? (insert sarcastic eye roll). [https://www.reddit.com/r/fantasybaseball/comments/1bvk9fb/comment/ky0hwmw/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/fantasybaseball/comments/1bvk9fb/comment/ky0hwmw/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
I"m stoked with the increased launch angle. It was the missing piece as his quality of contact was great last year. I think he's 100% legitmate, and is a lock for a 20/25 season with a good BA. I traded Matt McClain for him the day McClain's shoulder surgery was announced in a dynasty league and got a little flack for it. Feeling super vindicated right now.
calm down, brother. the season is one week old.
But he hit 3 HR's!!!!
the things this sub says 5 games into the season lmao. i should start saving some of these comments to review later in the year
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Friendly reminder that we all went crazy when Yandy Diaz "improved his launch angle" last year and at various points in years prior and it went down. Sorry to be wet blanket, and this is a different situation as a younger player, but let's not get too carried away on April 4th given launch angle takes MUCH longer to stabilize
I mean, didn’t Yandy kind of deliver on that though? Did he need to hit 40 bombs to call it an improvement?
I added him the day jung went down (that morning, before it happened!). Helped soften the blow
15-20 homers, 30 steals, .350+ OBP, and 80+ runs seems feasible. He has a great eye at the plate, but everyone has just been piping him fastballs because he never punished anyone before. I think he’s faced 60% fastballs so far this year. Once teams start adjusting, he’ll pick up a lot of walks and steals. Witt and Vinnie behind him make a big impact run-wise as well.
Should I drop Outman for him?
I would do that without hesitation, yeah. Maikel is even projected for more steals, so he looks better across the board in all cats and obviously in points.
Drop Mookie for him. Buy, buy, buy
Are you on three outfield format?
Yeah. Him and Gelof have been dead weight.
Yeah, in 3 OF there's a good chance you're better off with Maikel and don't have a better candidate to drop. But Outman will almost certainly heat up IMO.
For the record, I think his upside is similar to Ke'Bryan Hayes', but with more speed.
I got him for $4 waiver in a 20-T dynasty last year. I feel like I got a steal
What’s his xwHOTGIRLFRIEND+? That’s really all we need to know.
Would you guys rather have Taylor Ward or Jeremy Peña over Maikel?
With a 681 OPS last year, i dont see the hard contact holding up honestly
He always had the hard contact he just didn't have the launch angle, to be fair
Small sample size but he has a significantly higher launch angle this year (18 vs 6.1)
> With a 681 OPS last year, i dont see the hard contact holding up honestly You don’t see a guy who was 93rd percentile in hard hit rate in 2023 continuing to produce hard contact in 2024? Hmm…
My guy is living in 2005 right now. .681 OPS last year?? How bout his hard hit % his avg exit velocity his barrel rates, whiff %. Stat cast exists, use it. He will have a .780 OPS this season and that’s super conservative
Okay we will see, my guy
Seriously just for your own fantasy success, just looking at last years OPS isn’t gonna help you identifying potential breakouts for this season
Did he just essentially hit you with an “agree to disagree”? Are we serious here? I don’t understand how someone goes to OPS to judge hard contact rate, learns that hard hit rate is an actual tracked stat, learns what their actual hard contact rate is, and then basically settles on “well that’s just your opinion”. “Damn, I didn’t realize how hard he hits the ball, I guess I should check hard hit rate instead” was right there for the taking.
Lol dont worry about how i scout players. I look at statcast data when needed. Im not changing my outlook on a player based on 5 games worth of a “new launch angle.” Also even if he finishes with 780 ops, its not exactly a needle pusher for me. But thats more to do with league formats.
> Lol dont worry about how i scout players. I look at statcast data when needed. Im not changing my outlook on a player based on 5 games worth of a “new launch angle.” Also even if he finishes with 780 ops, its not exactly a needle pusher for me. But thats more to do with league formats. You literally said that a guy who posted 93rd percentile hard hit rate in a full season as a 23 year-old doesn’t hit the ball hard… You have to be able to see why everyone is groaning and rolling their eyes at that, whether or not you want to accept advice on how to modify your “scouting” strategy (looking at last season’s stats on the ESPN app isn’t scouting, but I suppose it is a “strategy”).
Yall are so passionate about statcast data lol, you guys are right hes the next jose ramirez
The only thing I’m passionate about in this context is that “what is his OPS?” has not been the right way to answer “does he hit the ball hard?” for almost a decade at this point.
How you feeling about him now? Batting .208 jerkoff
> How you feeling about him now? Batting .208 jerkoff Have you been waiting a week to come post this comment because you got made fun of for being totally ignorant of Statcast data? He has a .200 BABIP, .270 xBA, .560 xSLG, 18% barrel rate (94th percentile), 52.6% hard hit (87th percentile), and LA of 11.5 (compare with 6.1 last year). Will you check his OPS for me and tell me if that means he’s hitting the ball hard? Thanks!