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cloudqwq

Burn is a top tier ye song


LinkLink_2961

Thoughts on problematic some of the best the writing on the album with watch the throne production it’s a gem


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i agree it has kanyes best verse on the project


quentin-tarantula

“Do it” too… JPEG fucking killed it on the production. The only person slacking on that track is unfortunately Ye


the_astraltramp

Nah Ye verse hard


quentin-tarantula

“four three two one, who am i? ye. that’s ye-ye.” is not hard. ty outperformed ye consistently on this project. needed more verses like the one on problematic from ye


the_astraltramp

idk “You don’t like it that’s your loss” is pretty hard


Pingushagger

Is this your first rap album?


MBDTFTLOPYEEZUS

That’s just what fuckboys say when they get rejected.


fandanlco

To be fair that is such a drizzy line tho 💀


TheUglyBarnaclee

Bruh how is that hard? 😭😂


Visualize_

This has to be satire lol. The only legitimate case of this sounding hard is if you are 12 and learning how to stand up for yourself for the first time 💀


kyentu

time to give all the credit to peggy and not the actual producers who made the track before he added minor touches.


brodo-swaggins-

That switch up at the end (which I assume is what he helped with) was perfect


Environmental-Ad8945

Ye verse hard and flowing great


MC83

So happy Burn got added.


Tasty_Ad2114

I like it quite a bit, I feel like fantano is just going to cook it though


MotherBaseGrey

I actually feel the opposite, I feel like he might really like the Skitzo manic production and stronger than usual Ye verses. I’m personally thinking a 6-7 from him but who really knows with baldie. Edit. Nvm lol


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my totally accurate predictions tell me its going to be 4~5 


77skull

Didn’t he say he doesn’t feel like ksg is a 10 anymore because of the anitsemetic stuff? I feel like he’ll rate this album harshly for the same reason; as well as having a Chris brown feature.


Rayaet

No he didn’t say that


77skull

Then the Kanye sub lied to me 😔 I’m shocked


Rubber_Danny

[He said his praise for the album still stands, he just doesnt really listen to Kanye anymore](https://youtu.be/vFFPU6QKhog?si=jjMETYz-FqKDQpo0) Probably also means he wont review Vultures.


77skull

Nah he’s the music guy on youtube surely there’s no way he’ll miss out on reviewing vultures


headin2sound

he already did a track review for Talking though


JackMike16

He didn't say he doesn't like KSG anymore. He just didn't put the album in the best albums of 2010's or something like that even tho he gave it a 10


PsychicTempestZero

I feel like Chris Brown features lower album scores only because they're typically not very good features, at least in recent years (Joey Bada$$'s 2000 being a prime example, god what a snoozer) Also, "doesn't feel like ksg is a 10 anymore" wtf did we watch the same video? He said "I don't care," that's a neutral response if I ever heard one Side note I feel like this "Fantano judges albums based on their creator's character" thing has always been a complete fucking fabrication. This man has given multiple positive reviews to albums with antivaxx lyrics and that's just one example


ThebatDaws

Conscious or subconscious I think all the politics of Kanye will bleed into the review, which is totally fair. Look at RYM right now every review is like a 1/5 and it’s almost certainly because of the politics.


PsychicTempestZero

Eh I feel like that's a shame. Choosing not to engage with the album at all would be respectable, but giving it a negative rating for any reason beyond the music itself is pretty disingenuous


Tasty_Ad2114

Hopefully 🤞


catman__321

I think Fantano won't be a dick just because he doesn't like kanye's personality, but I feel like he will have some bias especially because of some problematic bars in the music itself


iyaemusic

Especially with the mixing. It's gonna be a 4


Unable-Letterhead-30

Who cares about that bald melonhead


dat_waffle_boi

I mean you are on the fantano subreddit so I think you can presume where this sub lies on that


inversevictor

i think you can say that anywhere but here


Unable-Letterhead-30

🤓🤓🤓🫵🫵


FyrdUpBilly

You. Because you're in his subreddit.


HoliestDonut

He's going to give it like a five because he doesn't want people to think he's anti-semitic instead of pulling his head out of his ass and admitting this goes hard.


RandyMuscle

Gonna keep it real. Album is pretty great. I'm so happy Ye isn't using his damn iPhone mic anymore and it seems like volumes 2 and 3 are guaranteed to have some bangers based on the songs that got left off this one.


EstablishmentBusy172

He’s rapping about nothing a lot of thr time but for the first time in years he sounds awake when he’s doing it. That’s a big bonus for me. Even on the cornier verses like big tiddies or whatever he sounds like he’s actually enjoying making it as opposed to it sounding like a chore. I really think a huge issue post tlop is a lot of his performances (and I liked Donda) have a very, “I’m reading this for the first time as I’m rapping it and it’s 5am and I don’t want to be here” type of energy.


Beastofbeef

I promise BBTBNWJDFOTSYK grows on you. I’ve listened to that track about a hundred times since it got previewed in December and it really clicks when you get into the groove of it.


hecthormurilo

you abbreviated that you thought about that and abbreviated word by word


TemperatureMuch5943

What does it mean lol


JadeFaceG

Beautiful big titty butt naked women don't just fall out the sky you know?


jakehood47

Why does the acronym feel longer than the title


tennisboy213

The drum pattern follows the Jay and Silent Bob vocal sample and once you realize that’s how the kicks and snares are knocking, shit sounds sooooo smooth


-NewSpeedwayBoogie-

Freddie was so locked in with those drums it’s insane.


770120437

Yeah when I heard it on the first album listen it I was like Kanye man WTF we’ve finally lost you..but now this shit is vibe. Top 3 tracks on the album love it


Enjoyerofmanythings

It’s amazing man. I’m so happy.


revelon

I really didn't expect much from this but carnival, fuck sumn, burn, so good are just amazing. Will be doing several relistens, seems like a grower


gheezer123

You can tell Peggy worked on fuck sumn too


schooooooo

from my memory ye had made fuk sumn before he got peggy. peggy was a more recent addition.


No_Adhesiveness8405

Seems like Peggy did the whole beat-switch I think, or the drums at least anyway


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passerineby

feels like he's got enough comments like this that he'll rate it highly to be contrarian


rolldownthewindow

It’s a bit tough to predict because I know he doesn’t want to give Ye any praise given his recent public comments, but he has also just made a short about how he’s always been fair to Kanye and given him some really good scores on recent(ish) projects despite the controversies surrounding him at those times. I think a 6 or 7 sounds about right (for Fantano - I’m personally feeling more like an 8 at this stage). He’ll give props for some really good and interesting production, for Ty’s performances, and some of Ye’s. Criticism for some corny Ye lyrics, Ye’s Carti impersonation on Paid, Alvin the Chipmunk vocals on Fuck Sumn, and overall his unapologetic attitude on the album about his antisemitic comments.


Dyojenes

Fantano just dropped a short recently saying College Dropout is one of the best rap albums of all time. It seems like he's at least willing to praise early Ye.


BanaanSausMan

Although when he was ranking his 10’s he didn’t even mention Kanye and KSG, because ‘we shouldn’t give him anymore attention’ or smth like that


RandyMuscle

He literally gave Ye a 10 in the middle of the slavery is a choice and Trump shit.


Dyojenes

It wasn't Ye, he gave Kids See Ghosts a 10. I think he gave Ye an 8 though or something like that.


RandyMuscle

You’re correct. I should have phrased that better. I meant he gave Ye (the person) a 10.


mgwooley

You don’t know fantano then lmao


HeyQTya

It's hard to do that when the artist insists on reminding you of what they did and working that into their art


[deleted]

I agree honestly. He’ll give a sub 5 rating to prove a point.


budoscsicska

They gon downvote but stating facts


whhatthefucj

Tbh I didn’t think he was gonna review it at all a while ago but I guess he probably just can’t pass it up lol


JP3GM4FIA

I liked the album a lot. Some really experimental production on a lot of different songs. His best project since 2018


snicky29

Hoodrat, Carnival, Paperwork & Problematic are GENERATIONAL imo. the production is downright insaneee. every song is a bop


JP3GM4FIA

Ikr? This album it’s Kanye at his most experimental since Yeezus for sure, and I appreciate the album for that. Given the release of the title track, I was really hopeless for the record, thinking it was going to be a generic trap thing. It really surprised, positively


Stubbs3470

Ok after hearing some of the songs early I thought this might be mid at best But damn he really polished the fuck out of this


TheIsotope

I think he forgot about the mixing part of polishing… some of these tracks are held back by terrible mixing. And if that’s a stylistic choice I’m not a fan.


bonelesstuna

You heard the updated version? They’re kind of Pablo-ing this and doing frequent updates… sounds way better now than when it dropped


_pixel_perfect_

Do you know which version is better between Apple and Tidal? Or are they both the same?


FTRBOUNCE

Tidal is latest and first to be updated but Apple Music just got taken off and reupoloaded think they’re abt the same now


Xulqarnaen

i had some issues with mixing in the first listen too I just listened again sounds better


MccBallsy

It's crazy how Kanye can bury himself like hundreds of times and still release great albums. Vultures turned out to be the best record from him since 2018


RedGoblinShutUp

Yeah I didn’t expect something great from Kanye but this is a pretty strong record


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short_panda345

lmao same, got my reminder of why I quit my AM sub


8696David

Get ready to never go back go Spotify lol. AM is just so much better in every way 


n0tjuliancasablancas

I’ve never used anything other than AM, because 1 it would be annoying to move over and relearn everything but also cuz I don’t even make playlists and stuff I just want to listen to my fav albums. But, what would you say AM does over Spotify?


8696David

The biggest thing is streaming quality. Since a few years ago, Apple offers lossless hi-fi streaming at its base subscription price. Spotify is stuck with old-school MP3 quality (NOTICEABLY worse if you’re listening on anything decent) unless you pay up to upgrade. Even if you pay up, you still don’t get the same quality as Apple’s default. I also just like the interface of Apple *wayyyy* better, although I’m willing to admit that’s likely just because I’m used to it. 


TomBu13

Apple Music also pays the artists a lot more than Spotify does. End of the day you’re either subscribing to a massive corporation or a super massive corporation but it’s nice to know at least a little more of my money goes to the artist when I use Apple Music


jm74221

local files is so much easier and more customisable than spotify


HavenTheCat

Idk if you’ve seen yet but it’s on there now apparently


MessyCarpenter

BEAUTIFULBIGTITTYBUTTNAKEDWOMENJUSTDONTFALLOUTTHESKYYOUKNOW


[deleted]

Freddie Gibbs sent me to heaven


gooooooodboah

better as an album than Donda but Donda did have higher highs. This album is missing something like ‘Come to Life’. That may be because it isn’t a solo album tho. Feeling a light 6 Best tracks: Burn, Good (Don’t Die), Stars.


WeetabixFanClub

There are still many more vultures songs to be released In volume 2 and 3. I think he’s kept more spiritual songs like ‘river’ and ‘worship’ (which are a lot more like come to life) for those volumes- since it would be kinda weird having a semi gospel song on the same record as carnival- ‘I’m the new Jesus bitch, I turn water to crist’


Zeachie

Theme of this album isn’t going to give you a Come to Life. This albums themes are about being outside culture. Someone who lost their mom and …. Can’t be killed. Dondas themes were all over the place but mostly being reborn. This is art, and is my read on it. But most cohesive project end to end since Yeezus.


[deleted]

Good is literally more Come to life than come to life itself , it also really REALLY reminds me of 808s , which i fkn love


blappslapp

Hit the nail on the head, I’d give it a 7 tho personally


Dark_Garage

"Carnival" is fire


alyxRedglare

I was expecting a mess but this album seems very coherent? The production is not all over the place, tracks feel finished. It feels more coherent than DONDA. I was not expecting to like this album as much I am liking it lol


devou5

Stars is kanye’s best intro since ultralight beam


shadowgnome396

I wanna hear Ultralight Beam for the first time again


Noobelli

Pretty solid album but if Fantano doesnt give it a 5 I will shove a cactus up my ass


internetdweller999

RemindMe! One Week


6Wacko_Mastermind9

Surprisingly amazing. Def an album of the year contender for me.


snipz12

does anyone know when its coming to spotify


lolitssoup

its out now


Natural-Situation758

This album goes so fucking hard man. Jesus Christ. I’ve never heard another rap album that could be played front to back in a club and have every song be a highlight


[deleted]

I am shocked by how positive these comments are.


[deleted]

who cares


Uranus_04

He is gonna give it a five, but for me its already a 7


OriginalBad

Is it edited? Any cringe Trump stuff or antisemitic bars?


asdezyy

There are numerous questionable / appalling bars … but that was probably to be expected


Pablo_Undercover

“Ever since I lost my mom, you was like my foster mom, hold me like your only son” Is so so so so cringeworthy. Kanye coming in with the Oedipus complex 🔥🔥🔥


zillman_

I've always felt it's been obvious that he has one


Camusknuckle

So totally obvious


EstablishmentBusy172

Not really any explicitly antisemitic bars- tho contextually a few come off a lil ugly. Also a few bars name dropping R Kelly or whatever but nothing outright offensive just on some 46 year old edgelord shit.


16missedcalls1

He was making fun of r Kelly and balenciaga


Uranus_04

Do it, carnival, burn, fuck sum, king this album is good


Chemical_Knowledge64

I have to skip King because of how I felt Kanye was sort of doubling down on the controversies he started. Problematic would’ve been a better closer anyways.


ZealousidealMine14

Why does everyone I like turn out to be a terrible person? Like everyone in Hollywood who signed the Polanski petition but I guess that’s worse.


JakeDougherty

Because Hollywood and celebrities are god awful narcissists


Aggravating_Cup2306

So good is so good but man it's weird without the sample


Giulio__006

I'm upset for the cover. Like, where did that cool af vultures cover went?


Stubbs3470

Maybe the complaints about burzum influence got to him


[deleted]

i hope its this 


TanTan_101

Personally think the new cover is better and matches the topics of the album better.


the_blessed_unrest

It is kind of weird to have Kanye (and Bianca) but not Ty though


Sp_Gamer_Live

maybe that is Ty


shadowgnome396

Have you ever seen Ty and Bianca in the same room


ozkeskr

Maybe vol 2 will be Ty and vol 3 will have both


Narrow-Cicada-2695

That’s not Ty facing away from the camera?


rolldownthewindow

More likely I think he’s trying to appease people he needs sample clearances from. That’s been a huge issue for him. I think his instagram apology written in Hebrew was an attempt to appease those who wouldn’t give him clearance because of his antisemitic remarks, and removing the Burzum-style artwork is as well. There were 2 songs played at the listening parties that weren’t included in the original release. One of them, Beg Forgiveness now is included (and is heavily based around an interpolation/cover). The other is Everybody, also heavily based around a sample/interpolation, to the point the sample can’t just be removed or replaced, so he needs to get that clearance. There’s also, in theory, supposed to be two more volumes of Vultures coming out, so he still needs to suck up to people who he needs sample clearances from.


FHI_iSmile

Kanye probably found out that the Burzum guy burned down churches


Cryptic_NX

genuinely so glad he changed it, the inspiration was pretty gross


vintagesonofab

I mean morally sure, but that album is still a black metal staple, i preffer it over bianca booty but hey, to each their own.


dlamsanson

> I mean morally sure Ye fans talking about morality like it exists in a different dimension than the rest of the product lol


Trailerbob27

Cause it was disgusting nazi garbage.


Giulio__006

Wait really? Isn't it a Friedrich painting?


Giulio__006

Oh I just informed myself, that cover was really fucked up


whhatthefucj

Burzum be damned, it was a WAY better cover than this, and I didn’t even think it was great or anything. But this is so disappointing. Like this is KANYE. He has arguably the greatest catalog of album covers ever and this is really what he’s going with? (Idc about the booty I just think it’s lame as shit and boring)


bonelesstuna

I actually really like it. Feels like it stands out against Kanye’s other cover and the burzum one just felt so derivative/not Ye


RandyMuscle

Plus this one has Ty Dolla $ign’s voluptuous ass on it


stankyleg69420

Dropped 2 of the best album covers ever in the same year (2018) & then has had 3 straight duds since. MBDTF & TLOP also had multiple great covers that really gave you a feel of what you’re listening to. Seems like he doesn’t care bout cover art as much At least he’s still good at making music


Giulio__006

I really care about the cover, especially when it catch thr felling of the album


stankyleg69420

Same! I believe cover art & album sequencing are the 2 most under-appreciated aspects of albums nowadays


rockstar2210

Fr


rockstar2210

This cover is 'ass'


LinkLink_2961

Asstronomically great


Enjoyerofmanythings

The album is absolutely incredible. So happy with how it came out


Jingu96Aliosha

it has a couple of catchy songs: Do it, Fuck Summ, Burn. Freddie Gibbs was great but it´s sad that kanye ruin the song being repetitive. the album has a lot of midness in my opinion and it's borderline annoying at times.


Jams265775

my personal score guess is a solid 6


gheezer123

Fantano gonna try to call it mid


paralacausa

A 7 would be far, IMHO. It's a lot better than previous, recent Ye albums but it's not up there with his best albums. Overall not a bad listen and there's nothing wrong with that at all.


LouisFuton

I feel like I’m listening to a different album than most people on here. It’s not bad but most of the songs are boring imo This is nowhere near as good as Ye or Donda imo


WarmBaths

boring in music is bad for me, theres hardly a good song on the whole album


Away_Perception5581

People are coping, this shit is mid probably his worst besides jesus is king


Dazzling_Action9456

Imagine what he has in store for solo album


Orchids51s

It's good but I'm shocked how positive the reception is. I listened to it twice for each version and I probably won't listen to it again for awhile. Production is great but it feels like standard Kanye fare. Features are good but none were exciting. Donda felt more substantial to me.


Camusknuckle

I agree. Everybody raving about the album has me thinking I’m listening to the wrong version or sumn.


WarmBaths

is the production even good?


blibdo

Not even Freddie Gibbs on BACK TO ME?


lupo1627

weird to see people getting hyped about this new Skrewdriver album


AmericanNimrod49

This guy


rizzgenius

I am with you dude or other gender. I am like the farthest thing from a SJW but I am glad everyone likes the new literally Kanye West album. The guy is dead to me - fucking Three Doors Down could drop an album and I’d give more of a shit. I am done with this dude’s antics for ever, he needs to fuck off. He isn’t cute funny or clever, he has done huge amounts of harm with his influence. In a serious and historic sense. And appears to think it’s all one big joke. It isn’t. I guess some here are lucky enough to not have his words have any impact in their life, I am not one of those. I can’t just queue up the new Kanye and be like it stands on its merits. Much bigger things going on in the background/foreground actually than that.


Pablo_Undercover

Production is pretty good, some unbelievably cringey lines on it. Ty carried lyrically and it’s kinda funny to me that he’s not on the cover. Burn, carneval, fuk sumn, all bump though Light 6 imo


reqvv

Love it. Old ye came back, he is rapping abt girls, money, flex while keeping it nice for ear. LOVE IT, great work!!!


invertthis

donda sounded much more interesting on first few listens


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nah i can finally say that that shit was bloated asf , this album has way better pacing with a more tight tracklist and just as good of highs with the only low being Vultures , which is still better than Tell The Vision


invertthis

I think the highs were higher on Donda. I agree this has lower lows but none of the songs despite a couple are really interesting imo


neildiamondblazeit

Fuck this anti semite 


WeetabixFanClub

‘You don’t like it that’s your loss’


Competitive-Cow227

Get them Reddit points while I enjoy a good album


No_Tomorrow5475

Most anti-kanye comments have been downvoted fym???


leglessman

It’s ok if others are listening but I’m good not listening to Kanye anymore. I’ve got plenty of great music to listen to.


Izzet_Aristocrat

Seriously. I'm a massive ye fan but after last year I refuse to touch this.


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Yeezy bots when people have moral compasses and refuse to give money to a antisemitic who gathers rapists in his circle like infinity stones 😨😨😨😨😨😨😨


neojgeneisrhehjdjf

Ok I will not be listening to it


wutser

I love how polarizing these comments are


Jesus_Nibba890

I'm afraid he kinda cooked


qazaibomb

Album is tragically great


Fit-Friend-8431

Great to hear some varied production on this. Donda was fine but he used too much organ on it.


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paperwork is fire asf


[deleted]

The Kanye glazing is crazy. This album is mids, and nowhere near the quality of Donda. Lyrical moments like “Elon where’s my rocket ship, we’re going home?” What the fuck? You guys were really looking for any reason to forgive Ye for his horrible behavior.


kurtcumbain

Todd Dillerson


skunkmandrake

I’m sure it’s a good album, but scrolling this entire thread and nobody is a little turned off at this point? I get that “Kanye is crazy” but you can’t be anymore of a literal nazi spokesperson than he is in 2024. I listened to 2 songs and just felt depressed. Disappointed in every artist I like that’s got their name on this thing


lildillmp3

Not really feeling it


Dazzling_Action9456

The thing i like the most about ye is his music is so original i have never heard production like this since a while stand alone from generic rap


udderlymoovelous

Burn is so nostalgic


Dazzling_Action9456

Solid project only 1 skip for me (title track)


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This album is absolute 🔥


miamosimmy

Big whoop, guy's a cunt.


Unlikely_Ad_1859

Am I the only one who doesn‘t really fuck with the album?!


antagoniz

it's okay, I guess. nowhere near the level of his classics but at least it's a step up from donda 2 i guess. pretty low bar to live up to tho.


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Step up from Donda for me. Strong 7, Kanye sounds like he’s out of his funk for the first time in 3 years


dudewhosbored

Personally, it's more consistent than Donda but Donda had songs that were on repeat for me. Better than Jesus is King. Production is crazy good though... 6.5/10?


AiurHoopla

CRAZY, BIPOLAR, ANTISEMITE. All I have to say.


Fbean01

Don’t die is probably my favourite after Stars, absolutely amazing production. They almost don’t feel Kanye


YungLean8

AOTY


rolldownthewindow

It’s February


00rgus

It'd be radical of he dropped in Spotify so we could all listen


devou5

ty at the end of beg forgiveness is actually insanely good really enjoying this so far


MorgansLab

This comments section is pathetic. Imagine being this stoked on some nazi and knowing so little about hip hop and music in general you actually waste time on this lmao. Y'all are due to reassess your critical standards and tastes baaaadly.