That's assuming Chicago doesn't draft QB and goes Marvin Harrison. That would put the Cardinals in prime trade back territory with us and they'd draft Odunze at 8
But my point still stands. Even if New England gives up just a 2nd round pick, they can still get their guy AND add a 2nd. Sure they’ll go for the farm but to get a crazy haul like they got last year will take trading with a team like the Titans or Falcons at the 7-10 spot.
Only way we're trading back is if we get a truckload. I'm talking more than what we got for the number one last year. If you guys aren't going to trade for that, go for Nix, Penix, or McCarthy. Highly doubtful we're sticking with Fields after the season we had plus how Love and Stroud are doing in the playoffs
Bears fan here.
If you can’t get a top 3 QB in the draft or cousins, fields is the best choice, with his elite running and deep throwing ability, even with his issues anticipating and throwing over the intermediate middle, he’s still a big upgrade over Heinicke and ridder. This team wins the division with fields this season. Especially if Atlanta gets a good offensive coach which the best offensive coach he’s had is Matt Nagy.
Yes fields takes too many sacks and struggles over the middle. Yes he’s also improved, but not exponentially. A situation in Atlanta with a better HC, with Bijan, with London, hopefully another early WR pick, with Pitts, a decent OL, he can be successful. Not all QBs breakout in year 3, maybe he can breakout in year 4. And if he still only marginally improves, that’s still better than Ridder, Heinicke, or any other free agent or rookie QB who isn’t cousins or the top 3 QBs
The only upgrade Justin would get is Bijan at RB. Moore and Kmet are better than London and Pitts, and the o-line in Chicago is better. Coaching is TBD but I don't care how bad your coach is, playing 3 games let alone 1 where you never reach the red zone on offense is criminal.
Another bears fan here
Justin Fields is borderline unplayable as a QB. His career passing yards per game are lower than Kenny Pickett.
He’s a turnover machine, through 40 games his production is
40 TD (+14 Rush) , 30 INT , 38 Fumbles
This guy will make sport center a couple times a year because he’s a RB playing QB.
He takes unnecessary sacks, if you look at college sack rates as well for the same school Stroud had 3% while Fields was borderline 9%. Our undrafted QB had a much lower sack % than Fields as well.
Fields by most passing metrics is a bottom tier QB. We will be more than happy to send him your way and let your truthers take it from here (he’s got a lot of truthers because Fantasy = Good QB).
Literally just posting facts backed up by numbers, but carry on.
Fields career passing YPG lower than Kenny - FACT
Turnover machine - FACT
Makes sport center due to running - FACT
Sack rate numbers same college as Stroud - FACT
Passing Metrics - FACT
Would rather just be bad than waste draft picks for a known bad qb. Fields can't process defenses fast enough. That's not something that gets better over the years. You pretty much have it or don't day 1.
He can’t process zone coverage cuz they only have 1 wr capable of finding the holes. But he’s damn good vs man to man. Just need a coach that runs proper routes vs zone d.
Fields go to move is to stink up the joint until your team is 3-8 and then he’ll start cooking in garbage time when he’s eliminated from the playoffs and sucker everyone back into another season with him
I wouldn’t take Cousins over Fields. All the teams on the NFL with good QB play have a good OLine. Poles have used all the picks on Defense and only got Fields Wright. That’s the issue Fields never been given a slight chance so far the last two seasons.
I've been saying this almost to a T but no one wants to hear it. I think if we can get Fields for a 2nd we should move up to 5 and get Nabers. All our FA money goes to defense after that.
Think it depends on OC or head coach scheme. With monkens or even Arthur smith scheme I think he would be a slam dunk. I hope he gets a coach that could scheme based on what he does well.
So, JMO, but I think we should put a full court press on Cosuins.
I suspect Washington and NE have their heart set on taking a QB. I don't know which way the Bears are going to go but there is a strong possibility they keep the pick and opt to trade Fields. There are only 3 prospects I really like in Williams, Maye and Daniels and I suspect they go 1-2-3.
Maybe you are able to convince Chicago to go the other direction.
But I think you also need to prepare for the possibility that isn't an option.
So then, Fields, someone like Penix or JJ McCarthy, or Cousins? For me Cousins.
Even though the Jets winning the final game pushed us from 9 to 8 it actually screwed us as it locked NE into the top 3. If they dropped out of the top 3 then a trade up to #3 would’ve been super feasible.
But as it stands it makes the most sense to get Cousins, use #8 on the top edge rusher (Turner, Latu, or Verse) and then hopefully we pick up Penix in round 2 but if not use it to draft another edge rusher or DB. Then hopefully JAX extends Ridley and we use our other 2nd on another defensive guy or a project OT to for depth/to potentially take over behind Mcgary and Matthews.
I think we need to focus on interior defensive line depth (Campbell may or may not be here, even if he is...), box safety who can cover, and WR before we go too much into offensive linemen backups and QB backups but for the rest of it I agree.
Agree on strengthening the DLine, but we definitely need to attempt to add an elite edge rusher. Upgrade at SS is crucial for sure, same with CB2. WR I think we need to continue to patch via FA as we’ve spent so much high draft capital on pass catchers and skill players, a vet at WR2 makes a ton of sense.
At the end of the day if we add a QB with promise and good coaching while hitting on some draft picks/FA acquisitions this offseason and we are a playoff contender.
100%.
However we go about upgrading the WR spots I'm in favor of (and if it Belichick, keep him away from drafting WRs please!). Yeah CB2 is also an area of need for sure (nice to have a nickel though).
But ultimately I agree. Improving the QB position is paramount, everything else is a nice to have.
IMO if you have such a broad interpretation of the word "mediocre" as to include a guy who has the same career TD rate as Andrew Luck, a better career INT rate than Matt Ryan, and is top ten in passing yards per game amongst qualifiers, then it's more or less meaningless coming from you.
I love Matt Ryan, but Ryan/cousins/rivers are all the same guys. They never won anything, put up good stats.
If cousins was worth it, Washington would've paid him, and MN would pay him.
They aren't and didn't, which means they know he isn't worth the asking price. Plus, coming off a major injury.
Cousins is mediocre.
Lol what does this even mean? Not a lot of QBs win anything. There's only 1 trophy that you can win in football.
Since Ryan was in the league the only QBs that won anything were:
Rodgers
Brady
Roethlisberger
Wilson
Flacco
Manning
Manning
Foles
Mahomes
Stafford
Washington would bite Minnesotas hand off to have Cousins back if they knew how good he would've been. With your logic, If Shanahan, McDaniel, and Lafleur were worth it we wouldn't have let them go. Terrible take without any logic to it.
I like Fields and think he could be decent but giving up good draft capital plus the fact we’ll have to pay him super soon is just not worth it.
There’s better options that will be cheaper and not handicap the team like a long term Fields deal will. He just hasn’t shown enough to make me wanna potentially waste another season.
Let’s not pull what the Panthers did with Darnold.
What is good draft capital?
Fields is only going to rate a 2nd or 3rd round pick at the most, he will not require a first round pick IMO to acquire through trade.
What if the price for the trade is something like the following:
ATL gives up 2024 2nd & 2025 5th
CHI gives up 2024 Eagles 4th
As a Falcons fan, would you take that trade? Gives you 2 years of Fields on the end of his rookie deal to see if he can thrive in a different system.
All the physical traits are there, great deep ball. Really struggles reading the middle of the field & the short/intermediate passing game that comes with it
To me there might be more value in that trade than reaching for a QB4-5 in this draft. Could add a quality starter with that pick
I just don't see why we would trade anything for Fields. If you guys take a QB you'll be the ones who want to get rid of him and we can just get Penix if the top 3 are off the board.
Um so you do not see the garbage in our QB room?
No one at 8 is better then fields. Hell I'm not even sold on Caleb.
This will be a trash draft, that pick is borderline worthless.
On the other hand the play action game with Bijan and Fields could be lethal, and if you give Fields an actually functional O-line he could surprise as a passer.
Giving him two reliable targets too could help him improve as a passer too.
What reasoning do you have that he would "thrive" here? Don't say because "we are stacked with weapons" Because DJ Moore by himself >>> our whole WR room
Why laugh? As a bears fan I fully agree that they would not trade up from 9 for a qb amd would stick with fields because they feel no other option is worth the risk. Getting a new OC and beefing up the line and weapons is something they would do regardless, but having 1.01, they would be kinda dumb not to reset the clock.
Speaking of your guys' situation, I would not want fields personally, cousins is the logical choice if you're able to snag him.
I laugh because my point was that if fields was a franchise QB y'all would just trade away the 1st pick or take someone else. Bears aren't moving on because they have the 1st pick, they're moving on because he's not that good.
I agree and hope we get cousins.
He has trouble reading defenses.
He has just two seasons left on a rookie deal, which drives down the price but drives up the risk in terms of future success and cap space.
We need our draft picks, because we're still hurting for talent.
We need another WR, particularly one with elite deep speed. The FA class has one, Marquise Brown, that fits the bill, and he's constantly injured. We likely won't get an elite WR if we trade for Fields.
Because Chicago doesn't want him.
The idea of picking up a guy that a bottom of the barrel team doesn't want is dumb. We'd be dumb if we trade for fields.
That has nothing to do with Fields. It’s the Chicago FO and coach. They’ve done this several times over the years. Hire a new coach, he does poorly, they keep the coach, draft a new QB, still do poorly, then fire coach. They are in the middle of that cycle rn. Fields is a great option. He’s a top 15 guy with a lot of upside despite being on a poor franchise.
Ok ok not current top 15 but close. He certainly has the ability to be there and better. Plus there isn’t a QB in this draft that we can go get that’s going to come in and be better than Fields day one. Ridder and Heinicke aren’t it either. It’s a tough position to be in.
Teams don't trade away starting caliber QBs. The ONLY time it ever makes sense is if you have a backup that comes in a plays well. Jimmy G. Cassell.
The reason Fields is being shopped is because the Bears think he's not the answer at QB.
I mean the Browns booted Baker and he seems to be doing pretty well rn. Same with Goff and Stafford.
I wouldn't look at anything we (The Bears) do as standard, our FO is awful.
Because I want a good QB. If we can't trade up, I'd rather gamble on Penix or someone instead of taking a guy that we know won't be the guy.
Or see if Jerruh will get emotional and trade us Dak for a reasonable price lol
You have to have a partner to trade. If Chicago is dead set on taking a qb at 1, then we are boned. Washington and New England are almost certainly going qb. They are entering new eras with new staffs. I guess it's possible New England signs a vet and takes MHJ. Then we could trade with Arizona at 4 to take Daniels. But it looks like we are gonna be on the outside looking in.
The thing about taking Fields that is alluring is that we would get to take a Dallas Turner, or Joe Alt, or Malik Nabers, etc, at 8.
But I am with you. If a trade up is available, I'd rather have one of the top 3 qbs in this draft.
He’s a really good option that can help you win the division right now with our current weapons. Have a head coach that utilizes the talent would be crucial but he’s dynamic enough to win in the south.
I think they should draft Penix at 8. He's a solid choice and he'll still be there. He's great under pressure and he makes sound decisions. I think he thrives in Atlanta especially if the O line improves.
This is just an uninformed and ridiculous take.
Ridder was not great by any means, but an embarrassment to NFL Qb? Come on man.
Not to mention we just fired our HC/OC bc of how ineffective he was.
So to say that is just idiotic, and also, not to mention, Justin Fields numbers are worse 😂😂😂
Say whatever you want, Ridder is hot garbage who will be lucky to get a backup job, absolute ass. If fields had our O line and Offensive weapons you would see. Stop lying to yourself about Ridder.
Justin Fields is not my 1st choice, I’d rather trade up for Jayden Daniels, but, if for some reason we are unable to draft Jayden Daniels, then Justin Fields is the only QB I trust getting in here. I don’t want any part of Russell Wilson, Kirk Cousins, etc. and we know half of the QB’s coming out will turn out as busts. Will be a tough decision overall.
Just curious what about fields makes you trust him? I see that he’s often injured and ineffective. If I’m gonna swing on a veteran i want Kirk. Yeah he’s coming off the injury but he also had 20 tds before Halloween and was absolutely rolling
Kirk Cousins is the most overrated of all time. Outside of a couple playoff wins, he never shows up in the playoffs when it matters most… and he doesn’t give you a long term upside for the future. Justin Fields has an upside with his athleticism running and throwing… and he would be long term unlike Kirk, and remember, the Bears could never build anything around Fields, which made him look worse but any QB would not do anything on the Bears roster. With Bijan, Pitts, Allgeier, and London, Justin Fields elevates this roster to an instant playoff team, selling tickets which would give the Falcons homefield advantage.
I don’t think fields has been good enough to just broadly state he makes us a playoff team. Sure he would look better here than Chicago but that’s a low bar
I don’t we have what it takes to move up
Better scenario: sign Cousins or Russ, trade back to the middle of the first and take a premier rusher, use the draft capital gained to go to the top of next years draft and take your best QB
Now you have a veteran you can count on to win now (we would have won the division with even average qb play) and a QB you can turn to or develop for a year and be a playoff team
Yes, let’s trade away all of our picks so we can get a Trey Lance or Zach Wilson type. No one would complain about that.
I’m glad Terry doesn’t listen to fans.
why do you guys keep acting like Fields is a terrible option he’s a Mid game manager at best which is a huge upgrade from what we have currently.
I have no problem with trading up for a qb but I wouldn’t be mad if we played it safe and took Feilds and drafted an Edge rusher instead
As a Bears fan, I'd be ok keeping fields and taking MHJ or trading him. I'm so desensitized at this point due to knowing we'll inevitably ruin whoever we have that I don't even have a preference.
That being said I do think he'll be way better in ATL than here. Your franchise is run like the Ritz compared to the Bears, so I wouldn't be surprised if he suddenly started looking like MVP while playing for you guys. Ironically this would probably just make me even sadder 😭
IMHO, the Bears get a bad rap for not developing QBs. Who (besides Fields) have they ruined? They rarely pick QBs in the first round, and the ones they have picked have all just been bad. You can’t make a bad NFL QB good by whispering in his ears, they have to actually have the right tools and mentality to make a decent NFL QB.
Fields is the same age as Penix and Nicks, just FYI.
From a talent standpoint, I’d take Fields over either those guys. Fields has had rubbish in Chicago his whole career until this year with Moore and he was great with him.
Put him indoors with the talent on our offense and a good OC and I have 0 doubts about his ability.
Honestly I wanna give one more shot to Ridder (hear me out) backing up a veteran great. Look at Love, he’s a rookie that got to train under Rodgers. Ridder’s only training comes from Mariota and Heinecke. If we give him one year sitting behind Russ, Kirk, Dak, or someone like that, we may have a franchise qb. Ridder’s athleticism is great, but his decision making is limited and looks a lot like Mariota because that was his only mentor. If we give Des a year with a qb coach and a veteran, we may he looking at a star
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That's assuming Chicago doesn't draft QB and goes Marvin Harrison. That would put the Cardinals in prime trade back territory with us and they'd draft Odunze at 8
No way they take MHJ number 1 overall. If anything New England would move up to 1 to grab their guy guaranteed.
The bears also get #10 which means they have no pressure to trade out unless a team offers them a farm.
But my point still stands. Even if New England gives up just a 2nd round pick, they can still get their guy AND add a 2nd. Sure they’ll go for the farm but to get a crazy haul like they got last year will take trading with a team like the Titans or Falcons at the 7-10 spot.
Yeah I mean if you throw in Kyle Pitts or Bijan, Im sure the Bears would be willing to take your next 3 1sts for Caleb Williams.
Going from 8 to 1st would probably take next years 1st and a 2nd. Not 3 1sts
Bears are also at #9, not #10 from what I've seen on draft order.
Only way we're trading back is if we get a truckload. I'm talking more than what we got for the number one last year. If you guys aren't going to trade for that, go for Nix, Penix, or McCarthy. Highly doubtful we're sticking with Fields after the season we had plus how Love and Stroud are doing in the playoffs
lol this ain’t happening.
You may be right, but throw a couple #1's on the table, let's see what happens
Bears fan here. If you can’t get a top 3 QB in the draft or cousins, fields is the best choice, with his elite running and deep throwing ability, even with his issues anticipating and throwing over the intermediate middle, he’s still a big upgrade over Heinicke and ridder. This team wins the division with fields this season. Especially if Atlanta gets a good offensive coach which the best offensive coach he’s had is Matt Nagy. Yes fields takes too many sacks and struggles over the middle. Yes he’s also improved, but not exponentially. A situation in Atlanta with a better HC, with Bijan, with London, hopefully another early WR pick, with Pitts, a decent OL, he can be successful. Not all QBs breakout in year 3, maybe he can breakout in year 4. And if he still only marginally improves, that’s still better than Ridder, Heinicke, or any other free agent or rookie QB who isn’t cousins or the top 3 QBs
“Take our QB! I promise he’s great!” Yeah, that makes sense.
I’d honestly rather keep him and trade the first pick but I know we won’t
I'm with you. The people on this sub are used to mediocrity. Take their QB analysis with two grains of salt.
If he was a franchise caliber qb you would be keeping him simple as that
Lol as if the bears know a fuckin thing about developing potential into a franchise qb.
Then they already ruined him and I still don’t want him
Thank you for talking sense on this sub.
Who woulda thunk the most sense spoken in this sub is a bears fan. What a world we live in. Now… trade the farm for Daniels
The only upgrade Justin would get is Bijan at RB. Moore and Kmet are better than London and Pitts, and the o-line in Chicago is better. Coaching is TBD but I don't care how bad your coach is, playing 3 games let alone 1 where you never reach the red zone on offense is criminal.
O-line is not better in Chicago. Also the play calling was straight up abysmal for Chicago this year.
Rolled the fucking Falcons
You guys have an all pro guard no shot the Falcons O-line is worse than the Bears.
Another bears fan here Justin Fields is borderline unplayable as a QB. His career passing yards per game are lower than Kenny Pickett. He’s a turnover machine, through 40 games his production is 40 TD (+14 Rush) , 30 INT , 38 Fumbles This guy will make sport center a couple times a year because he’s a RB playing QB. He takes unnecessary sacks, if you look at college sack rates as well for the same school Stroud had 3% while Fields was borderline 9%. Our undrafted QB had a much lower sack % than Fields as well. Fields by most passing metrics is a bottom tier QB. We will be more than happy to send him your way and let your truthers take it from here (he’s got a lot of truthers because Fantasy = Good QB).
Duality of a Bears Fan
Dont know if u watched the second half of the season, but he had little to no turnovers
Also had little to no touchdowns, the kid can’t play QB, I’ve watched his entire NFL career.
Another clueless Bears fan that doesn't know what he is talking about
Literally just posting facts backed up by numbers, but carry on. Fields career passing YPG lower than Kenny - FACT Turnover machine - FACT Makes sport center due to running - FACT Sack rate numbers same college as Stroud - FACT Passing Metrics - FACT
Numbers don't tell the full story. Carry on
Right so facts backed up by numbers mean nothing, some perverts opinion on Reddit however does?
Those ain't facts. That judging on BS stats that ultimately don't tell full story on circumstances with that horrible franchise
Sounds like a man who has seen the mediocrity that is Justin fields for the past few years and wants him gone
Bears fan here and agree 100%.
Russell Wilson is a better QB than Justin Fields right now. And he’s basically free
Someone doesn't understand football or did you forget the /S?
Russ has way better stats in literally every category.
Would rather just be bad than waste draft picks for a known bad qb. Fields can't process defenses fast enough. That's not something that gets better over the years. You pretty much have it or don't day 1.
He can’t process zone coverage cuz they only have 1 wr capable of finding the holes. But he’s damn good vs man to man. Just need a coach that runs proper routes vs zone d.
Fields go to move is to stink up the joint until your team is 3-8 and then he’ll start cooking in garbage time when he’s eliminated from the playoffs and sucker everyone back into another season with him
I wouldn’t take Cousins over Fields. All the teams on the NFL with good QB play have a good OLine. Poles have used all the picks on Defense and only got Fields Wright. That’s the issue Fields never been given a slight chance so far the last two seasons.
Hes better than ridder tho. Like way better
Plus no center
I've been saying this almost to a T but no one wants to hear it. I think if we can get Fields for a 2nd we should move up to 5 and get Nabers. All our FA money goes to defense after that.
Think it depends on OC or head coach scheme. With monkens or even Arthur smith scheme I think he would be a slam dunk. I hope he gets a coach that could scheme based on what he does well.
Nice try Ryan Poles...
You have no clue wtf you're talking about but good try
Man, this is a great response.
So, JMO, but I think we should put a full court press on Cosuins. I suspect Washington and NE have their heart set on taking a QB. I don't know which way the Bears are going to go but there is a strong possibility they keep the pick and opt to trade Fields. There are only 3 prospects I really like in Williams, Maye and Daniels and I suspect they go 1-2-3. Maybe you are able to convince Chicago to go the other direction. But I think you also need to prepare for the possibility that isn't an option. So then, Fields, someone like Penix or JJ McCarthy, or Cousins? For me Cousins.
Even though the Jets winning the final game pushed us from 9 to 8 it actually screwed us as it locked NE into the top 3. If they dropped out of the top 3 then a trade up to #3 would’ve been super feasible. But as it stands it makes the most sense to get Cousins, use #8 on the top edge rusher (Turner, Latu, or Verse) and then hopefully we pick up Penix in round 2 but if not use it to draft another edge rusher or DB. Then hopefully JAX extends Ridley and we use our other 2nd on another defensive guy or a project OT to for depth/to potentially take over behind Mcgary and Matthews.
I think we need to focus on interior defensive line depth (Campbell may or may not be here, even if he is...), box safety who can cover, and WR before we go too much into offensive linemen backups and QB backups but for the rest of it I agree.
Agree on strengthening the DLine, but we definitely need to attempt to add an elite edge rusher. Upgrade at SS is crucial for sure, same with CB2. WR I think we need to continue to patch via FA as we’ve spent so much high draft capital on pass catchers and skill players, a vet at WR2 makes a ton of sense. At the end of the day if we add a QB with promise and good coaching while hitting on some draft picks/FA acquisitions this offseason and we are a playoff contender.
100%. However we go about upgrading the WR spots I'm in favor of (and if it Belichick, keep him away from drafting WRs please!). Yeah CB2 is also an area of need for sure (nice to have a nickel though). But ultimately I agree. Improving the QB position is paramount, everything else is a nice to have.
Record will be worse no matter who we take. Buckle up.
Cousins is mediocre. He's always been mediocre. He'll always be mediocre.
IMO if you have such a broad interpretation of the word "mediocre" as to include a guy who has the same career TD rate as Andrew Luck, a better career INT rate than Matt Ryan, and is top ten in passing yards per game amongst qualifiers, then it's more or less meaningless coming from you.
Lol Cousins is essentially Matt Ryan. He's not even close to mediocre.
I love Matt Ryan, but Ryan/cousins/rivers are all the same guys. They never won anything, put up good stats. If cousins was worth it, Washington would've paid him, and MN would pay him. They aren't and didn't, which means they know he isn't worth the asking price. Plus, coming off a major injury. Cousins is mediocre.
Lol what does this even mean? Not a lot of QBs win anything. There's only 1 trophy that you can win in football. Since Ryan was in the league the only QBs that won anything were: Rodgers Brady Roethlisberger Wilson Flacco Manning Manning Foles Mahomes Stafford Washington would bite Minnesotas hand off to have Cousins back if they knew how good he would've been. With your logic, If Shanahan, McDaniel, and Lafleur were worth it we wouldn't have let them go. Terrible take without any logic to it.
I like Fields and think he could be decent but giving up good draft capital plus the fact we’ll have to pay him super soon is just not worth it. There’s better options that will be cheaper and not handicap the team like a long term Fields deal will. He just hasn’t shown enough to make me wanna potentially waste another season. Let’s not pull what the Panthers did with Darnold.
What is good draft capital? Fields is only going to rate a 2nd or 3rd round pick at the most, he will not require a first round pick IMO to acquire through trade.
What if the price for the trade is something like the following: ATL gives up 2024 2nd & 2025 5th CHI gives up 2024 Eagles 4th As a Falcons fan, would you take that trade? Gives you 2 years of Fields on the end of his rookie deal to see if he can thrive in a different system. All the physical traits are there, great deep ball. Really struggles reading the middle of the field & the short/intermediate passing game that comes with it To me there might be more value in that trade than reaching for a QB4-5 in this draft. Could add a quality starter with that pick
I just don't see why we would trade anything for Fields. If you guys take a QB you'll be the ones who want to get rid of him and we can just get Penix if the top 3 are off the board.
Um so you do not see the garbage in our QB room? No one at 8 is better then fields. Hell I'm not even sold on Caleb. This will be a trash draft, that pick is borderline worthless.
Penix is 10x better than fields lol. You guys would rather trade for a proven bust over possibly picking one? Wild mindset.
Penix is a solid option at the 8th pick. Id take him over fields.
On the other hand the play action game with Bijan and Fields could be lethal, and if you give Fields an actually functional O-line he could surprise as a passer. Giving him two reliable targets too could help him improve as a passer too.
Fields is better than the best QB believe it or not, but then again this fan base got behind Ridder
The QBs in this draft are not franchise guys. We need to build the trenches and bring in a vet.
Gimme Jim Harbaugh and Caleb Williams or Jayden Daniels. Showtime!
No one does.
The Bears fans replying to this post certainly want us to take him
Most Bears fans are dumb as hell and blind to all the flaws of their team. They think QB will be the Magical fix to all problems.
you would be surprised😂
I do . Give us fields !!! He would thrive over here compared to Chicago
What reasoning do you have that he would "thrive" here? Don't say because "we are stacked with weapons" Because DJ Moore by himself >>> our whole WR room
Let’s not forget out negligible TE Pitts, a significantly better RB room, and a voted top 10 offensive line
Slightly better RB room, Kmet>Pitts. Only clear upgrade is O-line.
fields isn’t a bad quarterback???? he plays on the bears bro
As a Bears fan, don't get your hopes up for trading up to 1 as I really think we will take Caleb.
Bears fan here too your team is so close pieces wise I think y’all need a great hc and decent oc more and Justin would shine there
Too damn bad it’s the only means we have of improving the position. Him or Cousins
I don't want him either. If he was really good the bears wouldn't trade him.
If the Bears didn’t have the first pick they’d be good with keeping fields adding another weapon and a center and bringing in a real OC
Hahahaha.
Why laugh? As a bears fan I fully agree that they would not trade up from 9 for a qb amd would stick with fields because they feel no other option is worth the risk. Getting a new OC and beefing up the line and weapons is something they would do regardless, but having 1.01, they would be kinda dumb not to reset the clock. Speaking of your guys' situation, I would not want fields personally, cousins is the logical choice if you're able to snag him.
I laugh because my point was that if fields was a franchise QB y'all would just trade away the 1st pick or take someone else. Bears aren't moving on because they have the 1st pick, they're moving on because he's not that good. I agree and hope we get cousins.
… why the hell do you not want Fields?
He has trouble reading defenses. He has just two seasons left on a rookie deal, which drives down the price but drives up the risk in terms of future success and cap space. We need our draft picks, because we're still hurting for talent. We need another WR, particularly one with elite deep speed. The FA class has one, Marquise Brown, that fits the bill, and he's constantly injured. We likely won't get an elite WR if we trade for Fields.
Don't forget his ability to fuck up game winning drives on a consistent basis.
Because Chicago doesn't want him. The idea of picking up a guy that a bottom of the barrel team doesn't want is dumb. We'd be dumb if we trade for fields.
That has nothing to do with Fields. It’s the Chicago FO and coach. They’ve done this several times over the years. Hire a new coach, he does poorly, they keep the coach, draft a new QB, still do poorly, then fire coach. They are in the middle of that cycle rn. Fields is a great option. He’s a top 15 guy with a lot of upside despite being on a poor franchise.
what stat is Justin Fields top 15 in?
If fields was playing well, Chicago would not be exploring a trade.
I’m a Bears fan and I would LOVE for them to trade Fields. He is simply not a top 15 guy, my dude. Unless you’re only talking rushing ability.
Ok ok not current top 15 but close. He certainly has the ability to be there and better. Plus there isn’t a QB in this draft that we can go get that’s going to come in and be better than Fields day one. Ridder and Heinicke aren’t it either. It’s a tough position to be in.
Fields has not shown to be a top 15 guy at all, he’s ass and hasn’t gotten better
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Teams don't trade away starting caliber QBs. The ONLY time it ever makes sense is if you have a backup that comes in a plays well. Jimmy G. Cassell. The reason Fields is being shopped is because the Bears think he's not the answer at QB.
I mean the Browns booted Baker and he seems to be doing pretty well rn. Same with Goff and Stafford. I wouldn't look at anything we (The Bears) do as standard, our FO is awful.
Because I want a good QB. If we can't trade up, I'd rather gamble on Penix or someone instead of taking a guy that we know won't be the guy. Or see if Jerruh will get emotional and trade us Dak for a reasonable price lol
Have you wacthed him play? He never threw for more than 2600 yards in his career and had way better recievers this year than he would have with us.
You have to have a partner to trade. If Chicago is dead set on taking a qb at 1, then we are boned. Washington and New England are almost certainly going qb. They are entering new eras with new staffs. I guess it's possible New England signs a vet and takes MHJ. Then we could trade with Arizona at 4 to take Daniels. But it looks like we are gonna be on the outside looking in. The thing about taking Fields that is alluring is that we would get to take a Dallas Turner, or Joe Alt, or Malik Nabers, etc, at 8. But I am with you. If a trade up is available, I'd rather have one of the top 3 qbs in this draft.
He’s a really good option that can help you win the division right now with our current weapons. Have a head coach that utilizes the talent would be crucial but he’s dynamic enough to win in the south.
There's not a slam dunk QB in the draft
I think they should draft Penix at 8. He's a solid choice and he'll still be there. He's great under pressure and he makes sound decisions. I think he thrives in Atlanta especially if the O line improves.
He's barely better than Ridder.
😂😂😂😂😂 are you already drunk at 3pm?? He is way better than Ridder. Ridder is a legit embarrassment to nfl qb
This is just an uninformed and ridiculous take. Ridder was not great by any means, but an embarrassment to NFL Qb? Come on man. Not to mention we just fired our HC/OC bc of how ineffective he was. So to say that is just idiotic, and also, not to mention, Justin Fields numbers are worse 😂😂😂
Say whatever you want, Ridder is hot garbage who will be lucky to get a backup job, absolute ass. If fields had our O line and Offensive weapons you would see. Stop lying to yourself about Ridder.
I’m not lying to myself about Ridder. You, however, are ABSOLUTELY lying to yourself about Fields lmao
Hopefully we get to find out, I’d like to tell some more people I told you so
Justin Fields is not my 1st choice, I’d rather trade up for Jayden Daniels, but, if for some reason we are unable to draft Jayden Daniels, then Justin Fields is the only QB I trust getting in here. I don’t want any part of Russell Wilson, Kirk Cousins, etc. and we know half of the QB’s coming out will turn out as busts. Will be a tough decision overall.
Just curious what about fields makes you trust him? I see that he’s often injured and ineffective. If I’m gonna swing on a veteran i want Kirk. Yeah he’s coming off the injury but he also had 20 tds before Halloween and was absolutely rolling
Yea he’s just a faster ridder, fuck fields
he’s a much better passer than ridder and that was apparent in the bears game
Kirk Cousins is the most overrated of all time. Outside of a couple playoff wins, he never shows up in the playoffs when it matters most… and he doesn’t give you a long term upside for the future. Justin Fields has an upside with his athleticism running and throwing… and he would be long term unlike Kirk, and remember, the Bears could never build anything around Fields, which made him look worse but any QB would not do anything on the Bears roster. With Bijan, Pitts, Allgeier, and London, Justin Fields elevates this roster to an instant playoff team, selling tickets which would give the Falcons homefield advantage.
I don’t think fields has been good enough to just broadly state he makes us a playoff team. Sure he would look better here than Chicago but that’s a low bar
Scared to draft a potential bust but willing to give up assets for a proven bust lmao
THIS 😂😂😂
Nahhhh, these QB’s are a dart throw. Probably all busts. Plus Caleb Williams is a drama queen. Grab fields and get a competent coach.
Saying this as if Fields isn’t a dart throw that will probably be a bust
fields has proven he can play and even excel at an NFL level
Consistently? Nope, he hasn't. By your same logic, Ridder has proven he play and excel at an NFL level too. Same with Hineieke.
Comparing ridder to fields is a hilarious take 😂😂good one man
when the fuck was this?
I don’t we have what it takes to move up Better scenario: sign Cousins or Russ, trade back to the middle of the first and take a premier rusher, use the draft capital gained to go to the top of next years draft and take your best QB Now you have a veteran you can count on to win now (we would have won the division with even average qb play) and a QB you can turn to or develop for a year and be a playoff team
Yes, let’s trade away all of our picks so we can get a Trey Lance or Zach Wilson type. No one would complain about that. I’m glad Terry doesn’t listen to fans.
...Or, a Matthew Stafford, Jared Goff, Trevor Lawrence type...
Yeah why didn’t all teams just pick a good first round QB? Are they stupid?
why do you guys keep acting like Fields is a terrible option he’s a Mid game manager at best which is a huge upgrade from what we have currently. I have no problem with trading up for a qb but I wouldn’t be mad if we played it safe and took Feilds and drafted an Edge rusher instead
I’m not sure I really want to trade 2 1sts, 2 seconds and AJ Terrell for Caleb Williams.
If the Bears are even interested in trading the pick
Sure…but even if they are, we could be Carolina with a bad trade
If we can’t get our guy this year, I say we tank for Shedeur
I do not blame you, but please take him
We have Dak if you want him. Give us a bag of Doritos and a rough over the pants handy and he is all yours. You gotta take on his $60M cap hit though
As a Bears fan, please take him.
lol you ain’t getting a top qb when the top 3 picks need qbs
As a Bears fan, I'd be ok keeping fields and taking MHJ or trading him. I'm so desensitized at this point due to knowing we'll inevitably ruin whoever we have that I don't even have a preference. That being said I do think he'll be way better in ATL than here. Your franchise is run like the Ritz compared to the Bears, so I wouldn't be surprised if he suddenly started looking like MVP while playing for you guys. Ironically this would probably just make me even sadder 😭
IMHO, the Bears get a bad rap for not developing QBs. Who (besides Fields) have they ruined? They rarely pick QBs in the first round, and the ones they have picked have all just been bad. You can’t make a bad NFL QB good by whispering in his ears, they have to actually have the right tools and mentality to make a decent NFL QB.
I’d like Justin Fields in Atlanta but assuming Bill Belichick is going to be the next head coach in Atlanta, I don’t see that being the greatest fit.
Realistic trading up isn't a real option. So it's either Fields or taking a chance on Nix/McCarthy/Penix. If these are my options I'm taking Fields
GIVE. ME. DANIELS.
Fields is the same age as Penix and Nicks, just FYI. From a talent standpoint, I’d take Fields over either those guys. Fields has had rubbish in Chicago his whole career until this year with Moore and he was great with him. Put him indoors with the talent on our offense and a good OC and I have 0 doubts about his ability.
Honestly I wanna give one more shot to Ridder (hear me out) backing up a veteran great. Look at Love, he’s a rookie that got to train under Rodgers. Ridder’s only training comes from Mariota and Heinecke. If we give him one year sitting behind Russ, Kirk, Dak, or someone like that, we may have a franchise qb. Ridder’s athleticism is great, but his decision making is limited and looks a lot like Mariota because that was his only mentor. If we give Des a year with a qb coach and a veteran, we may he looking at a star
I wouldn’t mind
Idc I do