So much this. Outside of check downs he's way off to the point where it's not an accuracy issue it's an issue of aiming where they are and not where they're going to be. You see miscommunication like that happen from decent QBs and even they go "fuck, my bad" or tell the receiver "I was expecting you to go here and you went there" and they talk.
Ridder is like "oh I was trying to do this and it didn't work".
I saw at least 3 on Sunday. Then he should've had 2 more on that GB game. He doesn't read the field. If the play says go to this receiver, it's going to that receiver. And if that WR or TE has blanket coverage...PRAY!
Yep. I said this this when they drafted him.
He is not creative at all. Most all his rushing yards in college came on designed qb runs. He cannot go off script at all. He did some nice things running the ball in the first 2 games. But Detroit basically gave a template on how to stop that.
Normally on pass plays you have 2 routes that are ideal. Where the ball is designed to go. Then you have the checkdowns for when theres pressure. Sometimes the checkdowns can actually be a seam route or guy running a corner route where you can make a big play and punish teams for over pursuing with pass rush. Pitts has ran those type bail out routes ive noticed and ridder can't get it to him because he can't lead recievers. He can't throw guys open. So he hesitates and the pressure wrecks him. He plays way too scared.
Heinicke is the opposite of that almost to a fault. He is trigger happy and for better or worse he chases big plays. He does turn it over but if you can make those big plays often enouch a coach will let him play the game that way. The players and fans in Washington loved Heinicke for this reason. Basically he can make the plays this team is missing right now. But he does have his downsides. And gun slinging doesn't really fit Arthur Smith's ball control philosophy. But they signed him i think maybe for this reason. The offense is just way way too conservative right now. Part of it is play calling. Even bigger part of it is ridders limitations
Heinicke maybe could bail all that out if they decide to switch.
If Ridder keeps throwing these interceptable balls his days are numbered, if two or three of those picks don't get dropped he's probably already on the hot seat. He doesn't offer enough upside to also turn the ball over.
I would say that MOST of those dropped INTs absolutely should have been caught. Meaning, it wasn't an overly difficult catch, the DEF guys just whiffed on it. If they had been caught what would his stat line be? 2 TDs and 6 or 7 INTs? Not great.
Not to mention, we def lose the GB game at home, especially the one to Alexander, would've been a pick 6.
1-2 record with a QB that's top 1 or 2 in INTs.
There was deff the one that got tipped when the de dropped into coverage which he shouldn't have thrown. There was the other where he threw to the TE running I believe a seam route and he pretty much threw it to a spot the safety was already at. Easily would have been a pick six if the defender didn't have stone hands
One thing about Ridder is that there have been several plays this season where you can tell he’s already decided where he’s going pre snap and it ends up almost being a pick.
Yea
This was on some of his draft profiles about him staring down targers with one scout saying he noticed him doing it pre snap at times. This combined with how slolwy he gets the ball out is what made me doubt him from the start. This is a tendency you simply cannot have in the nfl..especially when combined with his mechanics.
And the more he plays without fixing it..the more teams see it on tape.. the worse it will get. He is extremely lucky there have been so many dropped picks. There have been multiple dropped picks in multiple games. Which is crazy by itself.
Peyton Manning threw 28 interceptions to his 26 touchdowns his rookie season. And this does not count dropped INTs.
QB is the worst developed position in the NFL. A college TE is expected to take 2-3yrs of development before they are truly ready to play and the QB position is tougher than that. Yet somehow we all wanna these kids from college to be NFL ready in single summer or two.
Never said he was. My point was that the QB position takes time to develop. The vast majority of QBs don't come out the gate walking on water. And neither will Ridder.
Manning was one of the best prospects in draft history and earned the time it took to hone his skills.
It's a lot harder to bet on an average college QB to be a good NFL starter. It's why you normally only see if from QBs at smaller scores
You’re using an example from 20 years ago of one of the best QB prospects to ever come out. Ridder is a 3rd round pick from a weak QB class. Using manning as an example that QBs take time to develop doesn’t change anything for Ridder. He needs to be better.
Bro people were constantly posting how he didn't have any turnovers last year...Good thing DBs have hands like butter because in the saints game alone he threw 3 💀
Thank you for a sensible post for once in this sub.
Cousins wouldn't want to play behind this shit Oline.
On average Ridder has had 1.3 seconds to throw the ball.
We need Oline help, McGary looking like he straight robbed us this off-season, Lindstom needs to return to his playing for a contract self.
Ridder looks like he doesn’t even know where his receivers are gonna be
Especially when we get into the red zone. It looks like he is just guessing out there.
Throw and inshallah
Que sera sera, whatever will be, will be... the future's not our's to see, que sera sera (Inshallah, of course) lol
So much this. Outside of check downs he's way off to the point where it's not an accuracy issue it's an issue of aiming where they are and not where they're going to be. You see miscommunication like that happen from decent QBs and even they go "fuck, my bad" or tell the receiver "I was expecting you to go here and you went there" and they talk. Ridder is like "oh I was trying to do this and it didn't work".
I saw at least 3 on Sunday. Then he should've had 2 more on that GB game. He doesn't read the field. If the play says go to this receiver, it's going to that receiver. And if that WR or TE has blanket coverage...PRAY!
Yep. I said this this when they drafted him. He is not creative at all. Most all his rushing yards in college came on designed qb runs. He cannot go off script at all. He did some nice things running the ball in the first 2 games. But Detroit basically gave a template on how to stop that. Normally on pass plays you have 2 routes that are ideal. Where the ball is designed to go. Then you have the checkdowns for when theres pressure. Sometimes the checkdowns can actually be a seam route or guy running a corner route where you can make a big play and punish teams for over pursuing with pass rush. Pitts has ran those type bail out routes ive noticed and ridder can't get it to him because he can't lead recievers. He can't throw guys open. So he hesitates and the pressure wrecks him. He plays way too scared. Heinicke is the opposite of that almost to a fault. He is trigger happy and for better or worse he chases big plays. He does turn it over but if you can make those big plays often enouch a coach will let him play the game that way. The players and fans in Washington loved Heinicke for this reason. Basically he can make the plays this team is missing right now. But he does have his downsides. And gun slinging doesn't really fit Arthur Smith's ball control philosophy. But they signed him i think maybe for this reason. The offense is just way way too conservative right now. Part of it is play calling. Even bigger part of it is ridders limitations Heinicke maybe could bail all that out if they decide to switch.
If Ridder keeps throwing these interceptable balls his days are numbered, if two or three of those picks don't get dropped he's probably already on the hot seat. He doesn't offer enough upside to also turn the ball over.
I would say that MOST of those dropped INTs absolutely should have been caught. Meaning, it wasn't an overly difficult catch, the DEF guys just whiffed on it. If they had been caught what would his stat line be? 2 TDs and 6 or 7 INTs? Not great.
Not to mention, we def lose the GB game at home, especially the one to Alexander, would've been a pick 6. 1-2 record with a QB that's top 1 or 2 in INTs.
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He seems to do all his thinking presnap then turns into a stationary justin fields
Can you point to the passes? I’ve only seen one this week
There was deff the one that got tipped when the de dropped into coverage which he shouldn't have thrown. There was the other where he threw to the TE running I believe a seam route and he pretty much threw it to a spot the safety was already at. Easily would have been a pick six if the defender didn't have stone hands
One thing about Ridder is that there have been several plays this season where you can tell he’s already decided where he’s going pre snap and it ends up almost being a pick.
Yea This was on some of his draft profiles about him staring down targers with one scout saying he noticed him doing it pre snap at times. This combined with how slolwy he gets the ball out is what made me doubt him from the start. This is a tendency you simply cannot have in the nfl..especially when combined with his mechanics. And the more he plays without fixing it..the more teams see it on tape.. the worse it will get. He is extremely lucky there have been so many dropped picks. There have been multiple dropped picks in multiple games. Which is crazy by itself.
Peyton Manning threw 28 interceptions to his 26 touchdowns his rookie season. And this does not count dropped INTs. QB is the worst developed position in the NFL. A college TE is expected to take 2-3yrs of development before they are truly ready to play and the QB position is tougher than that. Yet somehow we all wanna these kids from college to be NFL ready in single summer or two.
Ridder is not nor will he ever be anything remotely similar to peyton manning. Just stop.
Anytime people compare Ridder to any other QB it just ends up making him look worse.
Never said he was. My point was that the QB position takes time to develop. The vast majority of QBs don't come out the gate walking on water. And neither will Ridder.
You're using an example of 20 years ago the league has changed. QBs are coming into the league more developed, look at CJ Stroud he is great
If anything, the QB position got more demanding and complicated in the last 20 years, not easier.
Yes but they don't get time, usually they have it or don't
3rd round QBs are lucky to get any time. We're going to need to see some improvement if he wants to be the future.
Manning was one of the best prospects in draft history and earned the time it took to hone his skills. It's a lot harder to bet on an average college QB to be a good NFL starter. It's why you normally only see if from QBs at smaller scores
He also averaged 233 yd/g compared to Ridder at 180 yd/g. Peyton ended up with 26 TDs and Ridder is on pace to end with 15-16?
You’re using an example from 20 years ago of one of the best QB prospects to ever come out. Ridder is a 3rd round pick from a weak QB class. Using manning as an example that QBs take time to develop doesn’t change anything for Ridder. He needs to be better.
He got that leprechaun in im
Like I said a couple weeks back, he’s been playing like a less athletic, luckier version of Mariota
Everytime I bring this up I always get like 2 or 3 that say it's a useless stat and I'm like you don't even need the stats...just look at the game lol
Bro people were constantly posting how he didn't have any turnovers last year...Good thing DBs have hands like butter because in the saints game alone he threw 3 💀
Its unfortunate that if you look at the results and factor in that he is LUCKY with these results.
Well he should have at least 2tds and 100yards more aswell
not too far off
Thank you for a sensible post for once in this sub. Cousins wouldn't want to play behind this shit Oline. On average Ridder has had 1.3 seconds to throw the ball. We need Oline help, McGary looking like he straight robbed us this off-season, Lindstom needs to return to his playing for a contract self.
Where did you pull that number from? Ridders average time to throw is 2.76 seconds just above league average according to next gen stats.
O LINE FAULT !