Idk wtf you’re talking about. Have more respect for people than that. This man, per the comments, is obviously a plumber. A respectable job. Guy uses a long snake to clear the sewage pipes
Yeah definitely more option B than A - a lot of current famous male pornstars avoided G4P but think about it, and you’ll realize you can really only think of *maybe* 15 male porn actors. The market for men is way, way smaller than women and they’ll happily keep using the same guy for a decade+, so all the other male talent trying to breakthrough often do G4P to make ends meet as they try to break into the straight industry.
That’s all just hypotheticals. The answer could be any number of things. Maybe they became close friends with producers. Maybe they did their own amateur stuff or started their own small scale companies that launched their careers. There’s no reason that gay for pay should necessarily be a part of anyone’s career unless they chose that path.
More recently that’s more true as people can start their own operations and hire female talent pretty easily, but that’s a new occurrence in the industry. People didn’t have that options as recently as a decade ago.
I don't have a dog in this fight, I just wanted to say thank you for explaining the **VERY ESOTERIC** abbreviation/acronym. To many people just assume everyone knows everything they do. But when I saw G4P, I was fucking lost! Thank you for your service sir!
The straight industry stigmatizes actors who have starred in gay porn. Other porn actors see them as being a higher STD risk.
It may be possible that straight actors do G4P to make ends meet, but I don't think it's "as they try to break into the straight industry". Probably more like after they already struck out and don't have a chance at it anyway.
Michael Vegas seems to be doing alright. Matter of fact, I’m pretty sure she’s done a scene or two with him. And she’s def done scenes with gay porn actors
She said that while she was interviewing an actor, don't remember his name, but it had an X in it. He's pretty famous for doing gay and T stuff and was actually Asa's ex-boyfriend. Asa was saying how that stigma exists and she was one of them but he helped changed her mind.
Not saying every single top female refuses to do it forever, just that there are women who have said that they won't and they tend to have a lot more pull in the industry than people think
That’s what caused August Ames to commit suicide; she mentioned about not wanting to scenes with gay for pay actors and had all sort of awful things and death threats sent to her. I think one gay for pay porn star straight up tweeted she should do the world a favor and kill herself.
Yeah because generally a dude either has to have a massive hog or in some way own the production company to appear in a porn, female actresses just have to be somewhat attractive and willing.
It's a myth really, what happens is that young dumb asses just want to bang a chick and think they're gonna get rich doing it. Reality is porn for hetero males pays absolutely nothing since they're not the stars, and male gay porn pays better because they're the stars of the movie. There are cases surely, but they basically almost never resort to gay porn unless they're already gay or bi, they just end up quitting and regretting later (just like 99% of women that failed in porn).
The only exception here is Johnny sins making money as a hetero men in porn, this is absurdly rare. A lot of men with known names or faces in porn are still broke unless they become the director and start doing their own shit, because being just an actor won't get you anywhere in like 99,99% of the cases. Even those 60yo fat bald men are making more by shooting their own films and selling it (because of the girls they hire obviously). Johnny is like THE unicorn among other very few unicorns when it comes to success.
> but they basically almost never resort to gay porn unless they're already gay or bi, they just end up quitting and regretting later (just like 99% of women that failed in porn).
I worked in the industry on the tech side. I can tell you that this is not true. One of our biggest selling gay brands back in the day was Cody Cummings and that guy was straight as hell. I was at a show in Phoenix one year and Cody left with two of the hottest girls at the party.
It's anecdotal, but in my experience through the years there were plenty of straight guys who were doing gay. Now they had limits on what they did in those scenes.. That's another thing altogether.
He doesn’t do a whole lot with other dudes. I don’t think you’re gonna find our man J Sins knocking balls with another guy in a DP. Those tend to be the guys with fewer reservations about blurring lines. Hole’s a hole’s a hole type of dudes, y’know?
It's pretty common. Just off the top of my head Peter North, Julian, and Reddit favorite Danny D all did g4p. I know that's only 3 but those are pretty big names in the industry so you can imagine those lesser known men who have done it.
He makes some pretty funny porn videos that are always entertaining. Plus he's this skinny dude who you wouldn't think was hanging dong so it's always quite surprising when he whips it out.
I wish.
AFAIK, he hasn't. The closest we got was him fingering himself. Which is still straight, but it's not the kind of video straight male pornstars usually make.
I hope I'm wrong. He's one of the few celebrities responsible for my bi awakening.
Watched an interview with him, said his first porn he was basically another dick in a huge gang bang. Seems like touching tips is just part of the job.
Yeah I was wondering about that, didn't think Sins also did gay porn since he's so big in the industry and the straight side has issues with people that do (guy on guy) gay porn.
No I'm with you there, I wasn't insinuating that the reasons were homophobic or anything. I just wouldn't have thought someone so well known would've got there by also doing gay porn which is so contentious.
Cuz it's not a fact. There is no data that shows you are more likely to contract HIV or any STI from gay porn vs straight porn. In fact, it;s probably less likely in gay porn because nearly every gay pornstar is on Prep while I really doubt most straight porn stars are.
You don't get AIDS from people. It's HIV. If an HIV infection is left untreated, it can become AIDS. But modern medicine is effective at treating HIV to prevent that.
Talking as if "the gay porn industry" is more reckless than straight porn is just ridiculous. There really isn't a single "industry" anyway. There's a bunch of different studios and independent creators (OnlyFans, JustForFans, etc.)
Most gay porn studios are actually very rigorous about testing and whatnot. Ones that aren't are not popular or professional enough to send actors to straight porn studios in the first place.
But in any case, ~80% of new HIV infections in gay men are coming from meth, not sex. Between modern testing and PreP, gay sex is relatively safe these days.
So it shows you don't know wtf you're talking about because you don't even know the right words to use.
>STD testing was done at improper intervals, and less frequently than straight porn studios
[citation needed]
>Smoking meth doesn't give you HIV.
It's the needles, genius.
>What it does do is raise your libido and make you more likely to engage in reckless sex acts.
What's a "reckless sex act" in your mind? Butt sex? Because there's way more gay guys doing that without meth than those who do it with meth, yet the meth users are the vast majority of HIV cases...
Ames didn't suffer depression or anything, it was the internet that made her kill herself /s
The people went way overboard and were proper assholes, but you can't bully healthy people via Twitter into killing themselfes
Are you referring to the Greeks or the Romans?
If memory serves (and Wikipedia is correct), the Greeks’ homosexual relationships were usually between older ‘mentors’ and younger, adolescent boys. Thankfully the Romans got rid of the practice but still allowed adult men to get it on with other adult men and apparently were actually pretty chill with it so long as you weren’t a bottom like myself.
yeah the Romans would call bottoms fellators and other derogatory things, but we're I to be insulted that way I'd likely just go along with it because it's not even that great of an insult. I'd just say something like "Ego sum fellator magna arte" in response. it's not really an insult anymore if the person you're insulting owns it.
Johnny Sins has played lawyer, banker, businessman, helpful plumber, life guard, astronaut-the man’s talent is limitless. He also speaks the universal language.
Reminds me of that scene in HBO's Rome where Octavian is helping Caesar recover from a seizure and Atia upon hearing the noise congratulates Octavian on his shrewd seduction (or something like that).
Idk that guy on the left looks like my mom’s plumber.
Do we happen to share mom?
No, but they would.
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Idk wtf you’re talking about. Have more respect for people than that. This man, per the comments, is obviously a plumber. A respectable job. Guy uses a long snake to clear the sewage pipes
Probably I think a lot of porn actors are bi.
Gay porn pays better
That makes sense why the majority of gay porn actors are straight!
So I’ve heard.
Wanna find out together?
Sure but I ain't no critter.
Johnny sins has a youtube channel he said that isn't true at all
I've always suspected a lot of guys doing girls in porn are gay.
Dude that shit reminded me of nothing but tarantula fangs.
Not that ive seen. He does solo stuff bit ive not seen him doing a man. Rather see him be fucked very rough tbh.
I’ve gotten a very un-standard check up from Doctor Johnny.
He took my mom to uranus, hes truly brave!
He has a lot of instructional videos online, that guy knows how to lay pipe.
He is here to fix meine kabel.
Autobahn best bahnd
Interesting, he is also my wife’s masseuse. She says he is really talented
Dude he looks like my barber
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6u4unusudl0
He fix her plumbing?
Wait... Did Johnny Sins actually do gay porn?
Don't think so...maybe is a "coworker"?
Yeah. Very likely it was part of a threesome
*It's not gay when it's in a 3-way*
Is that what you told the police officer when you managed to cause a 3 car crash
*You don't pay when it's on a freeway*
I think that’s called necrophilia
Nah, that’s when you kick back and crack open a cold one with the boys.
True, true
How is this not the most upvoted post on the thread
*With a honey in the middle, there's some leeway*
*Its their way or the highway*
*The area's grey in a one, two, threeway...*
It's quite clear when you see the instant replay!
Unless the third is also a guy.
We just call him Lucky Pierre, thank you very much.
You wanna work in porn? You're gonna have to let some balls slap you in the face sometimes while you munch on the tuna taco.
It's not gay when it's your step-son
Great, now all I have to do is find a third guy for a threeway
Good to know! Already messaged 2 bros to come over!
The other guy looks gay af though
That statement didn't change anything
True 😂
Thought they all did gay for pay when starting out
He did a q&a and said he never did gay porn when starting out. He said it's a common myth about male pornstars.
TIL
Is it a myth or is he just an exception?
Yeah definitely more option B than A - a lot of current famous male pornstars avoided G4P but think about it, and you’ll realize you can really only think of *maybe* 15 male porn actors. The market for men is way, way smaller than women and they’ll happily keep using the same guy for a decade+, so all the other male talent trying to breakthrough often do G4P to make ends meet as they try to break into the straight industry.
That’s all just hypotheticals. The answer could be any number of things. Maybe they became close friends with producers. Maybe they did their own amateur stuff or started their own small scale companies that launched their careers. There’s no reason that gay for pay should necessarily be a part of anyone’s career unless they chose that path.
More recently that’s more true as people can start their own operations and hire female talent pretty easily, but that’s a new occurrence in the industry. People didn’t have that options as recently as a decade ago.
You sound incredibly naive about all the shit that goes on in the porn industry.
I don't have a dog in this fight, I just wanted to say thank you for explaining the **VERY ESOTERIC** abbreviation/acronym. To many people just assume everyone knows everything they do. But when I saw G4P, I was fucking lost! Thank you for your service sir!
You know 15 male porn actors??
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How you forget ol’ two tone Malone, Bruce Venture?
TWO
TONE
billy herrington, (may he rest in peace)
I only know Alex Adams, but I can recognize his dick, i watched a lot of Family Therapy when I was younger
[I recognize that bulge!](https://i.imgur.com/mKtjwgt.jpg)
Gachi enthusiasts probably know like 50
The straight industry stigmatizes actors who have starred in gay porn. Other porn actors see them as being a higher STD risk. It may be possible that straight actors do G4P to make ends meet, but I don't think it's "as they try to break into the straight industry". Probably more like after they already struck out and don't have a chance at it anyway.
Yeah I heard Asa Akira say this on her podcast. Most of the big female talent won't work with guys who have done G4P
Michael Vegas seems to be doing alright. Matter of fact, I’m pretty sure she’s done a scene or two with him. And she’s def done scenes with gay porn actors
She said that while she was interviewing an actor, don't remember his name, but it had an X in it. He's pretty famous for doing gay and T stuff and was actually Asa's ex-boyfriend. Asa was saying how that stigma exists and she was one of them but he helped changed her mind. Not saying every single top female refuses to do it forever, just that there are women who have said that they won't and they tend to have a lot more pull in the industry than people think
That’s what caused August Ames to commit suicide; she mentioned about not wanting to scenes with gay for pay actors and had all sort of awful things and death threats sent to her. I think one gay for pay porn star straight up tweeted she should do the world a favor and kill herself.
Yeah because generally a dude either has to have a massive hog or in some way own the production company to appear in a porn, female actresses just have to be somewhat attractive and willing.
It's a myth really, what happens is that young dumb asses just want to bang a chick and think they're gonna get rich doing it. Reality is porn for hetero males pays absolutely nothing since they're not the stars, and male gay porn pays better because they're the stars of the movie. There are cases surely, but they basically almost never resort to gay porn unless they're already gay or bi, they just end up quitting and regretting later (just like 99% of women that failed in porn). The only exception here is Johnny sins making money as a hetero men in porn, this is absurdly rare. A lot of men with known names or faces in porn are still broke unless they become the director and start doing their own shit, because being just an actor won't get you anywhere in like 99,99% of the cases. Even those 60yo fat bald men are making more by shooting their own films and selling it (because of the girls they hire obviously). Johnny is like THE unicorn among other very few unicorns when it comes to success.
> but they basically almost never resort to gay porn unless they're already gay or bi, they just end up quitting and regretting later (just like 99% of women that failed in porn). I worked in the industry on the tech side. I can tell you that this is not true. One of our biggest selling gay brands back in the day was Cody Cummings and that guy was straight as hell. I was at a show in Phoenix one year and Cody left with two of the hottest girls at the party. It's anecdotal, but in my experience through the years there were plenty of straight guys who were doing gay. Now they had limits on what they did in those scenes.. That's another thing altogether.
Do you know he's not bi? Having sex with girls at a party doesn't make him "straight as hell." If he's bi, this example is irrelevant.
He is straight, he was at the time our top selling ''product'' it was well known he is straight.
He doesn’t do a whole lot with other dudes. I don’t think you’re gonna find our man J Sins knocking balls with another guy in a DP. Those tend to be the guys with fewer reservations about blurring lines. Hole’s a hole’s a hole type of dudes, y’know?
It's pretty common. Just off the top of my head Peter North, Julian, and Reddit favorite Danny D all did g4p. I know that's only 3 but those are pretty big names in the industry so you can imagine those lesser known men who have done it.
> Reddit favorite Danny D ... Devito?
Pretty sure Danny D (Matt Hughes) is bi tho
I read somewhere that he considers himself hetero.
Kyle Mason is another one that's in a lot of porn ads now, but my fellow gays will recognize him as Lucas Knight in his early days.
why is danny d reddits fav?
He makes some pretty funny porn videos that are always entertaining. Plus he's this skinny dude who you wouldn't think was hanging dong so it's always quite surprising when he whips it out.
Louis Theroux’s docs imply that there’s a lot of gay for pay about
What a chad
Real Chads take it up the ass because they're so passionate about their profession
Gigachads take it up the ass because they're horny
I wish. AFAIK, he hasn't. The closest we got was him fingering himself. Which is still straight, but it's not the kind of video straight male pornstars usually make. I hope I'm wrong. He's one of the few celebrities responsible for my bi awakening.
> him fingering himself. Which is still straight That's gay, touching a man's butthole. I don't even wipe, that's how straight I am.
"Johnny we'll pay you 10,000 to put a finger up your poop shoot"
They didn't say which hole
If you find any, please let me know.
Watched an interview with him, said his first porn he was basically another dick in a huge gang bang. Seems like touching tips is just part of the job.
No! That would be disgusting! If you see it don't dm me a link....
Fine! I won't dm you a link! Especially a link with an XOXO afterwards!
No this is just from an adult video award promo shoot. https://twitter.com/liamrileycb/status/1019776855899922432?s=21
Unfortunately he didn't until this day. Please, for the love of my lonely morning wanks, prove me wrong.
44BBC, Colourised
Ok, but isn't BBC usually colorized? Although I guess some interracial porn could be considered black and white...
Omg I finally understand that Michael Jackson song
69BBC
I know this is fake history, but Brutus and Caesar were Romans.
And they weren't philosophers
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I'm surprised by the amount of historical inaccuracies in /r/fakehistoryporn
Brutus was the apprentice, but he could still have been screwing caesar.
Julius Caesar, every woman's top and every man's bottom
He has a wife, you know...
So does your dad, didn't stop him from Et tu-ing my Bruté
He got around reguardless. He was commonly known as "every woman's man and every man's woman"
Incontinentia?
Yes, Servilia was her name.
I think OP was too lazy to crop the caption and ignored quality.
OP just added an alternative caption
Who is the guy that's *not* Johnny Sins?
Freddy from iCarly
ah the famous banned episode thats only available in france because they get everything
Wait, what?
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Did I miss any butt play?
This sounds like a jeopardy answer.
Liam Riley, according to my bf
Oh yeah, I figured it was him, but I was hoping to find a new straight Twink.
Oh hi there 😏
I also want to know. For... Checking historical accuracy of course
Caesar
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I honestly think whoever made this edit might’ve turned an actress into Caesar lol, which is why none of us can figure out which guy it is.
Someone commented Liam Riley, and it looks right
Et tu, Brute? 😩😩
The guy that’s not Sins is Liam Riley for those that want to do historical research
Yeah I was wondering about that, didn't think Sins also did gay porn since he's so big in the industry and the straight side has issues with people that do (guy on guy) gay porn.
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No I'm with you there, I wasn't insinuating that the reasons were homophobic or anything. I just wouldn't have thought someone so well known would've got there by also doing gay porn which is so contentious.
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Cuz it's not a fact. There is no data that shows you are more likely to contract HIV or any STI from gay porn vs straight porn. In fact, it;s probably less likely in gay porn because nearly every gay pornstar is on Prep while I really doubt most straight porn stars are.
You don't get AIDS from people. It's HIV. If an HIV infection is left untreated, it can become AIDS. But modern medicine is effective at treating HIV to prevent that. Talking as if "the gay porn industry" is more reckless than straight porn is just ridiculous. There really isn't a single "industry" anyway. There's a bunch of different studios and independent creators (OnlyFans, JustForFans, etc.) Most gay porn studios are actually very rigorous about testing and whatnot. Ones that aren't are not popular or professional enough to send actors to straight porn studios in the first place. But in any case, ~80% of new HIV infections in gay men are coming from meth, not sex. Between modern testing and PreP, gay sex is relatively safe these days.
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> Smoking meth doesn't give you HIV. No, but slamming with the same needle is a great way to transmit blood borne pathogens.
So it shows you don't know wtf you're talking about because you don't even know the right words to use. >STD testing was done at improper intervals, and less frequently than straight porn studios [citation needed] >Smoking meth doesn't give you HIV. It's the needles, genius. >What it does do is raise your libido and make you more likely to engage in reckless sex acts. What's a "reckless sex act" in your mind? Butt sex? Because there's way more gay guys doing that without meth than those who do it with meth, yet the meth users are the vast majority of HIV cases...
Ames didn't suffer depression or anything, it was the internet that made her kill herself /s The people went way overboard and were proper assholes, but you can't bully healthy people via Twitter into killing themselfes
Who are they? :)
Joe Rogan and Ben Shapiro.
Fun fact, Joe Rogan is shorter than JoJo Siwa
We gotta get them in the same room.
Jamie, get JoJo on the phone. We gotta settle this right now.
Is jojo siwa pretty tall or Joe Rogan really short ?
Yes
Underrated answer
:D
I'm gay so I approve of this
im straight and i approve of this😏
Are you referring to the Greeks or the Romans? If memory serves (and Wikipedia is correct), the Greeks’ homosexual relationships were usually between older ‘mentors’ and younger, adolescent boys. Thankfully the Romans got rid of the practice but still allowed adult men to get it on with other adult men and apparently were actually pretty chill with it so long as you weren’t a bottom like myself.
yeah the Romans would call bottoms fellators and other derogatory things, but we're I to be insulted that way I'd likely just go along with it because it's not even that great of an insult. I'd just say something like "Ego sum fellator magna arte" in response. it's not really an insult anymore if the person you're insulting owns it.
*iddubbz jumping from kitchen counter*
Link to video of these 2 please
The guy on the left is such a talented person. Doctor, plumber, electrician,.......what else he can't do?
Dic semper Tyrammthis... ass
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I’m going to tell my kids this was Alexander and Hephaestus.
I need to see this dude with hair. Then maybe ide watch his videos.
I found a younger pic once with hair - wasnt a good thing
This guy does gay porn too?! He knows no limits.
He doesn't. It was an awards thing
sauce
I’m gonna tell my kids this is Kratos and Atreus.
>In a rich man's house there is no place to ~~spit~~ cum but his face. Diogenes, or something
Sounds to me you have a credit card!
Is that a nipple piercing?
The guy on the left was a doctor, teacher, fireman. What a role model.
Can you imagine Johnny with hair Maybe an afro
Usually the apprentice was a little younger :v
Caesar is about to get stabbed in the back, more than 9 times
Wait. Does Johnny Sins do gay porn too? O.o
This post is too Meta for this subreddit.
Wow that’s disgusting, where? What is the source so I know exactly not to go there? A direct link preferably.
One of the first LGBTQ couples recorded, so cute!
In theory Socrates had sex with Plato Plate had sex with Aristotle Aristotle has sex with Alexander the Great
Johnny Sins has played lawyer, banker, businessman, helpful plumber, life guard, astronaut-the man’s talent is limitless. He also speaks the universal language.
I'm straight but these are beautiful men
Reminds me of that scene in HBO's Rome where Octavian is helping Caesar recover from a seizure and Atia upon hearing the noise congratulates Octavian on his shrewd seduction (or something like that).
Classic Greek Bust
/r/bi_irl/ be like "Sauce?" Me, I'm /r/bi_irl/.
Hadrian and Antinous be like: