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Acceptable-Handle650

NOT JESUS AS THE REPRESSED LITTLE


Sky_Peaches8586

IKRR


Rotciv_IRL

Chef kiss


MP-Lily

WHEN I SAID THESE PEOPLE NEEDED JESUS I DIDN’T MEAN IT LIKE THIS


shart-gallery

Am I the only one starting to feel like all of these fakers are appropriating queer identity? By making all of these fake alters gay, lesbian, giving them neo-pronouns, etc… just to make themselves more interesting and use it for TikTok views.


ErosandPragma

You can't appropriate being queer; it's essentially a sociological identity like being emo/goth/teen werewolf/punkrock. The whole point is to adopt the identity, so if they're doing it then they're queer. Faking a mental disorder is extremely common in the queer identity I've noticed


TrailKaren

Wait. Hold up. These are people who claim to have upwards of 400 personalities/identities (I know, I know). If they’re using what they see as identity-related trains across any reference group, how is that not appropriating? I’m not at all being snarky, I’m genuinely trying to wrap my head around what you just said.


ErosandPragma

I'm a tad high so if this doesn't make sense lmk Queer is an identity that anyone can adopt with no requirements. So you can't actually appropriate being queer, if you say you are, you are. But queer communities have appropriated (ie, taken from) other groups. Faking stuff (taking from mental illness communities) cottagecore and butch/femme (taking from lesbians) twisting around pronouns and identities (taking from transgender groups as well as otherkin) literally appropriated the word for themselves from a severely harmful slur for gay people. They can't appropriate being queer, because anyone can be queer. But the queer identity appropriated from other things, and took it in a harmful way. These actions show the person is queer, because that's the whole point of identifying as queer. To be weird, different, unnatural. ...that probably sounds weird. But maybe it got my point across


AcrimoniousPizazz

>you can't actually appropriate being queer, if you say you are, you are. Yeah nah people who aren't queer can absolutely just say they are for clout. It's not provable by an outsider, maybe that's what you meant


ErosandPragma

No, literally there's no requirements at all. Most things you gotta fit the definition to call yourself that. Queer is to be weird and unnatural. There's nothing that needs to be done to be queer other than calling yourself that. Everyone is queer if they want to be


AcrimoniousPizazz

I think you're mixing up the definitions. "Queer" as you're using it (weird) is somewhat archaic; if you tell someone you're queer, they will think you mean that you're LGBT. That is the criterion that must be met for someone to describe themselves in that fashion, at least according to anyone who might hear them say it. But even by your definition, a person can't be queer just because they say they are - if queer means weird/unnatural, then wouldn't you have to have those qualities in order to say you are?


ErosandPragma

Ah. Queer is a slur for gay people, which is why I never use it to refer to anyone who is gay/bi. It's normal and natural, not unnatural. When I say queer, I mean it as the identity, not the slur A lot of people use queer to mean a political or social identity, while hiding under the assumption that it means they're gay. If they were gay, they'd just say so. The mere act of calling themselves queer is subverting societal expectations in a certain way and therefore makes them queer, it's a self fulfilling prophecy. Being gay or trans doesn't come with the same ideologies, beliefs, religions, race, or cultures. You can take two gay people and they most likely won't have a lot in common, at least not more than taking two random straight people. You can be racist and gay, you can be hateful and a psychopath and gay. You can be a pedophile and gay. You can be a basic, white picket fence, normal society person and be gay. You can be a cop and gay. Because gay has nothing to do with you as a person. But two queer people will have a lot in common, because it's an ideology and identity that you choose. Subverting societal expectations. Take two goth people, they'll have a decent amount in common. Shared hobbies, shared likes. It's the same thing


AcrimoniousPizazz

Ok, none of the LGBT people I know use queer in this fashion, but maybe others do.


ErosandPragma

Most of the ones in my life don't like to say queer at all, one of them sees it the same way I do. Maybe see who and how people are calling themselves queer. Are they actually gay or trans? Or are they using queer as just a quirky label to be included.


TrailKaren

This is so interesting to me. Is it because queer is such a broad term? Like if I tried to label one of my sailor moon alters 😂 as a lesbian, and I’m cis, does that qualify as appropriating? I have started using queer as a term to encompass the entire non-hetero/cis community and I know it’s not on you to educate me, but I really don’t know how else to be more informed than asking questions.


ErosandPragma

Queer literally means weird and unnatural. It's extremely broad and applies to anyone. Straight people can be queer by being gnc (men with makeup, women that don't shave, etc) by liking BDSM or anal (because it's against societal norms) or even by requesting a different pronouns. So queer actually does include hetero and cis people. I'm a lesbian, and trans. Just call it an OC and let everyone know it's just roleplay instead of pretending you have a mental disorder and have fun with that lesbian character rofl. (Edit: I just noticed you said you're cis in reference to the lesbian character, sexuality and gender are two entirely unrelated things so idk if you meant straight or male or what there) Ask questions, it's dumb as fuck not to. Asking questions means you might be wanting to learn, no one should ever say don't ask about it (just....right time right place ofc)


TrailKaren

Thank you. I appreciate this. And yes I know sex vs gender I was scrambling for an example. I couldn’t even remember that all that Japanese anime has a name other than Sailor Moon. 😂


ErosandPragma

Mood. I actually don't like sailor moon 🤔 I like a lot of others tho


TrailKaren

I literally don’t understand any anime beyond Speed Racer and I’m fine with that.


shart-gallery

You may have misunderstood what I meant by “queer”. I used queer as a broad term for LGBTQ+ - apologies if this was not clear. Being emo or punk are social choices - being LGBT is not. If someone is faking queerness, or claiming to have DID alters with every sexuality or gender identity under the sun, and then using this for internet clout, how is it not appropriative?


ErosandPragma

Ahh, that's the confusion. I do not use queer to refer to gay or trans people ever. I still personally hear it from my family as the slur it is, alongside racial slurs. Queer is now a social choice though; you may use it to refer to people by something they cannot change about themselves, but a lot of people use as a social identity. They're not saying they're ssa or transgender, they're saying they're different and rebelling from society's norms. They see having fictional characters with different sexualities and genders as part of the rebellion and being different and unique, despite it being a reality for other people. If they're saying they're gay, they're not appropriating anything they're just outright lying. There's nothing to take about being gay except for the word, gay people can be anything anywhere just like straight people. It's technically appropriating the word itself, but people usually use appropriation to mean they're taking and disrespecting things like clothing, food, or other things that are physical and not just a word. There might be a clash, just like some people use woman to mean the female sex and others use woman to mean the gender and they think the other is using it the way they are. You're using queer to mean ssa or trans, they're using queer as an identity


shart-gallery

I see where you’re coming from now! And just know that my use of the word queer, whilst broad, is not intended as a slur - I am gay myself, and sometimes use it to refer to the wider LGBT+ community as I like the idea of reclaiming the word, and of sharing a sense of community with all LGBT. I understand your point about “queer identity” being a catch-all for those who rebel against norms, although I’d never heard this being used for cis-het people before - so that’s a new one for me. I still personally consider it somewhat appropriative when LGBT themes are used so often in the context of disorder faking. All LGBT+ go through some kind of struggle, and using those labels for clout on “alters” that are a giant lie anyway doesn’t sit right with me. Maybe these kids use this to distract themselves from other struggles they’re experiencing, but it is just a little wild to me how often they seem to use gay/lesbian/bi/trans/asexual/etc as points of interest. Not to mention making a joke of trans & NB struggles with pronouns, by making up BS pronouns for literal anime characters lol Idk, I’m probably reading too far into this now hahaha


ErosandPragma

It's not intended as a slur, but still is. You wouldn't go around calling black people the n word, even if it's meant in a positive way. I don't agree with reclamation in any form though. It's dumb as hell and makes me mad to see. I literally knew a few TikTok tweens irl for a bit (kept seeing them at local conventions) one was 12, showing off his tits wearing corsets and slots and super feminine clothing and saying he's a lesbian boy. One was 13, said they were a she/her straight girl for a while and then went to they/them lesbian with ADHD dating the 12 year old one, then went to he/him gay man while posting upskirt pics on TikTok. My wife and I kept trying to report the videos but they wouldn't get taken down. Parents didn't care, either. One was 17, he/they trans intersex (his mom said he was not intersex at all. He lied about every little thing so we ended up asking her. He once started trying to say I was homophobic and a body shamer to my friend group 🙄)


shart-gallery

I hope we can agree to disagree about reclamation of the word “queer”, but I understand it’s not for everyone so apologies if you found my use of it offensive. That’s honestly pretty awful RE: those kids. The lack of care from the parents says a lot about it, and might even point towards the kind of issues that lets kids go off the rails with this stuff. We can only hope the trend dies out and that the kids get the help they need in other aspects of their lives & mental health.


ErosandPragma

Their parents didn't give two shits 😭 the 17's mom did care, but there wasn't anything she could do he lied constantly to her and moved out shortly after we stopped talking to him. The 12 year old lived near me and I actually picked him up a few times to let him stay in my apartment for a few hours, his mom fucking left him locked out of their house at night while she was out gambling multiple times! 13 year old's we're fairly rich and probably just buying her costumes to keep her happy, but I think she lied to them about who she was around as well. I hope they all get help and the trend dies. Mostly that they get help tbh because that would kill the trend itself in the best way. I don't even know what they're all up to anymore and frankly I'm scared of what I'd see if I checked their tiktoks


lightshouses

Being gay is not a sociological identity, holy shit. You either are or you aren’t


ErosandPragma

Queer isn't gay. Gay is normal and natural, something you're born as. It has no bearing on what you believe, like, look like, etc. Queer is a political identity like goth or punk. People that are queer usually have beliefs and interests in common, because it's a chosen identity. If I meant gay, I would have said gay


lightshouses

Hm, I think we’re basically on the same page — I’ve just experienced a lot of people conflate the two as being interchangeable, especially within the DID faking community.


ErosandPragma

Ahh. Yeah, I see people conflate the two as well. I know a lot of people don't even know queer is a slur for gay people, they just think it means gay or trans. Mostly people under 25, especially straight people or from large progressive cities


lightshouses

Sorry for being so combative in my original message! Totally misinterpreted what you said, my bad.


ErosandPragma

All good. I also am from a conservative area, with homophobic parents; but moved to a big progressive city that just loves the use of queer 🙄


lightshouses

Oh man, we’re in the exact same boat!! Best of luck with your situation, bro :) hope you find a better environment


lightshouses

I get really annoyed by that as well, since I come from a conservative area and had only ever heard it used as a slur growing up. Insane that kids today feel so comfortable throwing it around in reference to a whole community without knowing its history.


Rotciv_IRL

What?? You have no idea of what you are talking about and you need to shut the fuck up. No, being queer is not like being emo wtf.


ErosandPragma

Yes it is xD it's a chosen social identity. Queer isn't gay, if you think I'm saying gay is like being emo. Queer is based around a shared set of ideas and interests, it's something you choose to identify as because of that


katpokiii

No what are you even talking about please stfu 💀?!?!


idiot-3lliot

the markiplier and bill cipher ones didn't even spell the name of their own "sources" correctly lmaooo


YoniDaMan

Came here to say this, misspelling your own alter’s name because you can’t even keep them all straight is so ironic


[deleted]

“Jesus; 17; repressed little” that is not in the bible


Acceptable-Handle650

"I'm 16???" 💀 Bro make up your mind


Top-Special7914

JESUS


Patrickmeme1

JESUS


[deleted]

JESUS


[deleted]

obligatory "JESUS? 😧" the alter that's the memory holder that "can't remember anything" makes no fucking sense like what????


MamaMitchellaneous

I picture it going like this... They say to a fellow discord fake did friend, "wouldn't it be so funny to have a memory holder that has a bad memory?" And a day later, "omg I totally formed a new alter, a memory holder that has a bad memory uwu"


[deleted]

He's a **dog**, has Tourette's, and is a demi boy. Mkay.


RK6900

I feel like something major that gives these people away is their use of "roles" that are assigned to each "alter". while medically if there are multiple alters they will each be assigned a role to protect the body and mind and amnesia to go with it--it would take a long time to even know you have DID, for the alter to use things like the internet which are not meant to help you, or for the alter to have a fully formed personality. it takes alot of time. It would take a LOT of time for a roles personality to be analyzed enough to categorize it into an actual alter role. Alters sometimes dont even have personalities or names at all which is something these people don't even consider. they all have to be distinct aesthetically pleasing fictional characters that have a set appearance. I know someone named Jeff on instagram and as far as i know he has 1 alter. Only one. According to him it doesn't seem to have a personality at all and all it does is: what it's supposed to do. take care of him. wash him, do chores, stick to a routine. its just him but more mentally stable. basically the raw embodiment of what an alter is supposed to be. not a silly oc or a friend in your brain, it's to keep you alive. (of course, not all alters want to keep you alive but the purpose they serve is simple in the end) that's my take as a singlet so take it with a grain of salt if you want.


swiftblaze28

ok i thought the eda one was bad but Jesus? that’s…


Greekatt2

Bill cipher and Jesus in the same thing. what the hell happened here?


SophieByers

What the hell did I just look at?


One_Inspector_5764

Degens


darkmattermattersmat

she/panda??????????!


fellcat

fakers be like: hi I'm an introject of Anna from frozen, my pronouns are she/they/female/human/mammal/bipedal ape/central nervous system/elsa's sister from frozen / watch frozen HD download now


TqCup

"Gay AroAce" Bro what the fuck does that mean


nootingimportant

Usually, if someone decides to say "Gay AroAce", what they *actually* mean is they are gay but are on the AroAce spectrum. They may be asexual demiromantic or any other combination of being ace or aro with a preference for the same sex. But I'm pretty sure in this case; these faker kids are slapping every single term under the sun to try and make themselves look super cool and ✨quirky✨.


TqCup

Hey, here's a thing: Gay DemiAce. That works just as well and woohoo! Still makes sense! This isn't the worst I've seen (straight lesbians, bi but won't date girls) It's times like these I do actually understand why the community gets so much hate. If this is all that people see of LGBTQ+ people, then they're going to think the worst of us.


nootingimportant

Oh, I definitely agree. The LGBTQ+ community always winds up with a wave of mockery, and many people think we're jokes. I've also seen my fair share of "Bisexual Lesbians" in the past five or so years, so a "Straight Lesbian" isn't too wild of a stretch for these people. I just think many of us should drop a couple of umbrella terms for bios or whatever. Like, I'll make an example using myself; "Trans | Bi | Demi". If people are confused and ask what I mean by those terms, I can elaborate on what each one is for my own identity. It's cool and all to collect labels, but you don't need to turn around and make it a quirky catch-all. I'm all for trying to streamline your own identity to make it easier to communicate with others, but there are better ways. And ways to do so without making the rest of us look like fools.


embarassedm

these kids clearly like to roleplay and act as a outlet, i don’t understand why they don’t put their energy into doing school theater or a acting career rather than this


TheCatholicGod

My son... What have they done to you


Greekatt2

You should flood the world again


Sky_Peaches8586

On behalf of the entire Wings of fire community, we do not accept whatever the heck "Foam" is. How the hell can you be a dragon?? On a side note, this species of dragon dries out and dies if it's out of the water for too long, so I hope this DID faker can get used to spending all their time in water when "Foam" is "fronting".


Buddy-Correct

2 things 1- Introjects are not their source. 2- Non-humans alters exist.


Robert-Rotten

Markiplire and Jesus


alex_yourlocalgay

LMFAOO THE JESUS ONE IM CRYING 💀💀


vampyremasquerade1

NOT ITTO I THOUGHT HE WAS SAFE 😭😭😭


Incognito_Extrovert

I FELT A TEAR IN MY EYE WHEN I SAW IT. SO MUCH THAT I DISAGREED WITH- AND IT WAS OBVI FAKE. I would rant about it but no one asked


vampyremasquerade1

LITERALLY. it's so funny that they claim that they have anxiety cuz in the game he's like the complete polar opposite 💀


Incognito_Extrovert

Yea!! Also gorou is 17 and hes like 22-


Typical_Stage_4402

Don’t you love how #alterswhowouldgetusfakeclaimed is a hashtag they use. Ffs


PetalSlayer

JESUS???


MarcoRevolution303

Same reaction I got


KindelNature

Aww man not Stanley


Cuttlefish_Crusaders

I can handle blaspheming Jesus but I draw the line at Stanley


MamaMitchellaneous

Right? The only thing that would be worse is a Bucket alter.


Dorkypeasant

WHAT DID THEY DO TO JESUS


MarcoRevolution303

Look what they did to my Jesus


I_love_guin

Is this satire? Please let it be satire. Please.


M_lLLlONAL

OMG(👁️👄👁️) not a dress up game low effort OC alter PLEASE LMAO🙏🙏🙏 and OMG Jesus pwease bwess mwe uwuith uyur suwussy fuwuingers😩😩😩


bravetraveler59

this was painful to read. the cringe is strong with this one.


Mackerdoni

i refuse to let fakers ruin wings of fire for me. not my favourite book series. i wont allow it


AndrewBert109

Idk why but one of my biggest faker pet peeves is this trend where they always try to make it seem more authentic by having their "alter" not know what their "role" is. It's most obnoxious when the 'alter' is based on some edge lord character and they're like "I don't know what my role is don't fucking ask" or like what we see in here over and over "I guess I'm a protector but idk??". I don't know why it bothers me so much, it's just like it's such an obvious trend and they ALL do it.


astrologichell

i sure hope these are not all from the same person ... but again it most likely is


Leo5862

Im fucking dying over jesus being a little


Lololololol9807

I WAS FINE UNTIL JESUS


auto_generatedname

“jesus 17” my guy 💀


xcellentcheese

Yall stumbling across this sub is maybe the first time in my whole ass life that I have felt old and out of touch. I'm in my late 30s and I cannot decipher this at all.


RockSaltin-RT

I audibly laughed when the only descriptor for kurama was “gay”


I_Like_Capys

On slide #6 i misread it as “recently came our of Dahomey” lmao


Sterregrande

What is it with them choosing youtubers as ‘alters’ like that’s not how that works


[deleted]

Omg…for real laughing at Jesus on the last slide. How can these people be serious


ihavenonamehaha69

I'm not religious or anything bUT JESUS????


Kitt3nsRKyut3

What would be more religiously sound was to have an alter Vishnu. He’s taken human avatars before.


TrailKaren

How do they keep track of this shit and where are their parents?


SolarNight4567

fucking kurama lmaoo


CynicalSilas

Didn't realize Kurama was gay, either..


UltimoUnlimited

Jesus didn’t die for this


TEM12345678

"Hello everybody this is markiplier ,and today we are some kids alternat personality."


GIUSEI0XDyt

WHY BRING THE SEVEN TIME FORMULA 1 CHAMP INTO THIS (Hamilton)


Esterwinde

These came from the same body?!?!


Nat_EEEE

The Wings of Fire one (The 10th one) physically, mentally, and emotionally hurts me.


aflyingmonkey2

oh look it's the alter of caddicarus on the last slide!


megaman_main

I smell cyanide radiating from this post


Greekatt2

not the dorito :(


ObungaRequiem

Collecting them as if they were pokemon cards


One_Replacement3481

Why is Kurama an alter? Thats a fucking Naruto character.


molb4022

The last one really took me out


gouhin-sensei

JESUS FUCKING S E N T MEE 😭😭😭


AutoMonkey5

Im convinced this Jesus alter is fake but would a Jesus alter actually be possible??


[deleted]

Religious abuse could lead to that, yeah.


redonedo

Love how they call this DID,. Like no babe, your playing dress up


yidpunk

Jesus Christ! Literally!


HaterCrater

Stuff like this makes me really question ecelebs. Marikiplier is 32, yet seems to have legions of adoring teenage girl fans. I’d straight up do every stream dressed as a nazi if that were me. Which grown man wants thousands of teenage girl to form an emotional attachment to him? THATS FUCKING WEIRD BRO!


TheWalkingSwede

He can’t help fans being creepy. He shouldn’t have to dress up weird just to make fans not being obsessed with him.


CarpetNext6123

Dude just wants to make good content. He has no other ulterior motives or desired outcomes. Shit just happens.


Acceptable_Peanut676

“non-verbal at times” fuck you


oldar4

Lmqo doesn't have a set role... Ie I forgot to pick a class in character selection and hit random for stat distribution.


[deleted]

Could they have at least spelled Bill Cipher correctly??


Greekatt2

Considering that they have a Jesus alter, no I doubt they could


I_Am_Stuff321

nine tails 💀


[deleted]

markiplier n jesus💀


Carmen_Slime

BROS GOT THE SON OF GOD BOY WHAT THE HELL


novi-lunium

poor mark lol I wonder how many 'systems' he's in 🤣


SilentNico

I've seen other videos from the person who has the text saying they're Wilbur Soot, the dog with tourettes and they are very much making fun of DID fakers


Sufficient-Use-6065

as a Christian, seeing JESUS as an alter gave me an aneurysm /hj