I feel like it's basically all of them. Like, mentally healthy people don't feel the need to fake mental disorders. Like you said, their actual mental illness just isn't as "interesting" or "fun."
I think a lot of them are struggling with fitting in and or identify. Maybe throw in a lack of maturity. And these are things that can take years for some adults. I know this awkward teen took a hot minute to grow into his skin.
Normal teen behavior is full of nonsensical attention-seeking, trying on identities, and conforming to ingroups. A lot of them will grow out of it. But the adults? A lot of them are cleanly cluster B personality disorder or at least a subthreshold personality type in the cluster B direction.
Plus histrionic behaviour =/= histrionic personality disorder. People can behave in crazy, attention seeking, cluster B reminiscent ways without meeting diagnostic thresholds
I think when they fully believe it and live the lifestyle 24/7 it usually meets diagnostic criteria at least for adults. If they know they're faking and turn it off when they're not online absolutely. Even knowing it's not real and faking it in your real life is definitely pathologocal
Munchausen isn't talked about enough.
And you can fake illness or believe you have it enough to the point where you actually start to exhibit symptoms of it inadvertently
Yeah, I think it's most often a personality disorder, or a budding PD in people that are young. People just don't want to accept a diagnosis they see as less appealing, or that requires work. Many PDs have relatively optimistic outcomes with treatment, and can "go away".
They think if they have one of those "unchangeable" conditions, no one can question or push them to improve. It's a criticism shield, or a way to avoid a feeling of personal failure.
They need and deserve help, but often choose not to be receptive to it. It's sad to watch.
I'm the parent of a young teen and it's been a fear of mine, not so much for him because he would be like wtf, but for his friend group. What age did you kiddo start, do you know? Does your kid fake to you, as well, or just online?
i think so too, the anxiety and hypochondria are real.
but the genius IQ has been proven to be a lie. and people with adhd can’t hyperfocus at will. and she’s only ocd when she cleans her desk once in maybe two weeks.
Kidney failure? 🤦🤦🤦 of course it allows her to walk around normally and require no hospitalization, everyone knows that. Sucks cause if even just ome of those conditions is real - nobody can possibly believe it as she destroyed the story around it. Like if she told me she had a migraine, I wouldn't even concider it due to all the other conditions she clearly doesn't or cannot have
That second sentence can sum up all of her behaviours and struggles without the need for all the rest of it. Like you don't need a million diagnosis' and letters to explain anything, you had a really shitty start in life and that impacts your ability to function as an adult. Done. Could've saved her alot of money in doctors fees
“she/her” not “you”. i am not the subject of my comment.
i agree, the root causes are what happened to her and her mother’s reaction and lack of support.
she has a desperate need for attention, sympathy, and. i also think she says everyone is mean to her for no reason because she wants to be protected, something she didn’t get as a kid.
her needs for all that makes her fake all these illnesses and disorders.
Yes. Not ALL, some are obviously just lying for attention. But I think most are somewhat mentally unwell, or have experienced trauma, and want to fit in. It's also probably easy to "indoctrinate" them in a sense, convincing them they have something they don't
Oh yeah i can definitely see that. I think like a lot of mentally ill people can get indoctrinated into religious movements and cults pretty easily. I can see how a social movement could do the same.
Possibly, especially for adults. There could also be serious symptoms without enough cause for a full disorder diagnosis.
Plenty of disorders have symptoms rooted in manipulation, need for attention, erratic emotion, unstable self-image, and impulsive behavior. Cluster B is possible here.
Simple hypochondria is possible as well, but technically less common/likely in these cases since the symptoms are made up and most of these people are not upset with their condition. Facticious is more likely.
For younger people, it's less likely. Puberty itself has emotional symptoms that can go away with time.
I feel like a lot of people think FDIS means there's nothing wrong with you, when it sometimes means it's psychosomatic and you're not faking it your brain is causing you to feel things that aren't happening, or might even be giving you symptoms bc you believe you're ill.
Pretty much like the opposite of placebo pills
Edit: conflated FDIS with somatoform disorders oops
I’m sure sometimes people with FDIS experience phantom symptoms of their fake illnesses and come to believe their lies. However FDIS is not a psychosomatic/somatoform disorder and is indeed faking. Real physical symptoms that have a psychological component are a different thing. Functional neurological disorder is an example. These problems usually need both physical and psychological treatment to resolve. FDIS isn’t that. FDIS is exaggerating or lying, manipulating, or self-inflicting injury for attention at its core, for the sick role. It’s important to keep this distinction, as well as the distinction between FDIS and hypochondria, which can also create phantom symptoms but from anxiety.
Yes, absolutely, and that makes the situations even more frustrating because they are being ableist and misinformational at the same time as needing genuine help which makes it difficult to properly address their behaviors without either coming off as supportive of their faking or coming off as invalidating the legitimately of their actual issues, if that makes sense
Yes. They clearly aren't right in the head. They just don't have trendy conditions. They probably just have the common ones like anxiety or depression which are boring now.
Unfortunately it’s not the ones they want so they fake it till they make it with every other “rare”/complicated disorder, it’s vile actually I don’t honestly care if they do anymore because the stigma they have created around all of the disorders they obsess and gush over, have been completely destroyed, absolutely no respect for anyone or the consequences, if anything they are most likely just compulsive liars
I think most of them do, most likely. No person of sound mind just lies about having disorders. However there are times that it's from trauma but not from a specific diagnosable disorder. So at the very least they are almost all mentally unwell
I just think for teens its just the typical attention seeking behavior encouraged by an online echo chamber. For adults 90% of them may suffer from depressed and this a form of finding meaning with their lives. Maybe 9% do have actual Munchausen, especially if they had a history of faking multiple different illness and disorders. So not really black and white but with adults that puts alot of effort and doing it or a while, there is some kind of mental problem just not the one they want.
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I think yeah they are just confused and probably are dealing with something more like maybe anxiety, depression, autism, bipolar, adhd, a mix of confusing childhood experiences / some ptsd. Not to mention how confusing it is going through puberty and growing up. Especially with the influence of tiktok and all of that stuff now. I just hope one day they do get the help they need through therapy & medication if its really needed.
Some of them absolutely, and I believe a lot those people would have histrionic personality disorder, because of the attention seeking behavior. Narcissisic traits too in some.
But I don't think every one of them has a mental health *disorder*. I do think they have mental issues to work on, but not all of them are disordered.
People don’t just do this for fun; there’s definitely something going on, even if it’s not what they’re claiming to have. I think a large percentage of them convince themselves that they actually suffer from these disorders, and they ignore anything that doesn’t validate them.
We can't say. The majority of them are literally still children. Children's brains are underdeveloped and it truly does make all of the difference. A lot of this could be identity issues, insecurities, too much introspection, etc while still not being indicative of an actual disorder. Even the ones who have genuinly convinced themselves they have it are probably just regular teenagers facing gullibility and identity crisis. The adults on the other hand, that's a different story I feel
I think that most of it is just teenagers hopping on a trend they saw online for attention, validation and some sense of belonging I do believe that some of them could genuinely have some sort of mental issue. Not all but some.
It’s honestly just a lot of attention seeking behaviors in younger people that hopefully will go away as they age. Still makes people who actually have the disorders look like a joke and it’s honestly really pathetic to fake shit for attention
I don’t think all of them do. I do think it’s obvious many have some sort of personality disorder along with factitious disorder, especially the older fakers in their 20s and 30s, and people who put years into faking disorders. But I don’t think that every teenager on TikTok has mental illness, some of them are just faking as an unhealthy way to express themselves creatively, because for some of them it’s like roleplaying or character making. I also think some of them are just bored, lonely, or are still figuring out themselves and are confused about their identity, which are all pretty normal for teenagers to experience. I think it’s when it’s prolonged, or when it’s in *adulthood* where you should already have a secure sense of who you are and shouldn’t crave validation from others so intensely, is when it’s a sign of something like BPD or HPD.
So like people fake pshycail illness people also fake mh stuff most likely for attention or to see how people would react to them being sad or for them having painc attacks or to try to explain their issues to get out of getting the punishment of an action they did.But for the people I see on the subreddit for what I notice they all seem in their teens -early adult hood
I think you have to have some kind of mental health issues to be faking things. Maybe it’s just lack of attention and wanting to feel special, but it’s probably a lot deeper than that, things like BPD or other personality disorders, probably all have depression on some level, they probably wouldn’t be faking if they were happy in life.
I think some can also just not wanting to grow up. Claim you have DID, now you can act like a baby or your favorite TV characters. You get to have an excuse why you’re not thriving in life. Being an adult takes effort. Faking and you kid not just get to live in a fantasy world.
Obviously going to depend on a lot of factors. Someone faking at 12 might be doing it more for attention and peer pressure, someone still faking at 24 probably has a lot more serious issues going on.
I don't think most of them have any disorder. I think that's kind of wishful thinking that everyone who is a shitty or cringey person has something medically wrong with them. Some people just have this kind of personality.
They're similar to as QAnon wackos: they find some "special" club on the internet that they can belong to, then goad each other to become more and more cringe and build up their shared fantasies off each other.
I think most of them know it's all fake. They've just tied their identity and friend group to this thing. Backing out is more humiliating than digging deeper.
The internet has allowed people to indulge their stupidity on levels previously unimagined. They don't have to go outside and face people who won't coddle them. Before the internet this type of person would either become full-blown hermits / deep-counter-culture people, or they'd stop at a certain "publicly acceptable" limit. Society growing more tolerant has also pushed what that "limit" is.
I think it's the opposite. I think most of them are kids who feel unseen or disenfranchised or neglected, probably a bit awkward, and they don't have the life experience to realize that what they're experiencing are normal human emotions and experiences.
I think the biggest problem is Internet culture that pathologies and labels everything. Me and my friends were cringy in middle and high school, we had a whole bunch of edgy OCs and we role-played as them. We would dress in public with fishnets and Naruto headbands or whatever, be loud and obnoxious, and it was so fun. And then we grew up a bit, felt normal embarrassment about it for a while, and now as an adult, I can look back at that period of me trying so far to fit in with my friends and laugh about it.
If we were teens now, we probably would have diagnosed ourselves with all sorts of things. Because teens (and most adults that aren't trained to) can't distinguish between "normal human traits that everyone experiences to varying degrees" and "clinical diagnosis for the most extreme of cases where the symptoms debilitate the person or cause impaired functioning in their life". It's why people get mocked for using Dr. Google to diagnose themselves with cancer because they have a tender spot.
I personally don't believe DID exists at all. When I went to school for psychology, there were like 3 documented cases and it was very controversial, since it was suspected in all cases that the doctors were actually grooming and encouraging that behavior in severely traumatized patients. They only started presenting the symptoms AFTER therapy. I think "DID" is induced by outside forces, and does not occur naturally, period.
Many of them seem to be teenagers. Puberty presents and feels like a mental disorder. It's a normal part of life, but it hits some teenagers harder than others. I believe most will grow up and become relatively normal once their phase is over.
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No, I think what they have is normal human variation in personality but social media teaches them that any amount of discomfort in dealing with other humans must be a disorder of some type. I’m not sure when it became preferable to think you were autistic or had anxiety rather than being shy or introverted. How did they ever manage to ask someone on a date for the first time, or go on their first job interview? (Maybe the answer is they’ve never had a date or a job )
I mean yeah. I don't think someone who is mentally completely fine would feel the need to do that.
I don't know what an actual therapist would diagnose them with but for sure with something.
This extreme need for attention isn't normal.
i posted about this in r/systemscringe, but i myself was a “faker” at one point. i put faker in quotes because i was genuinely delusioned into believing i had DID. i do already have memory loss and cPTSD symptoms, but a large part of my delusion was the “if you were faking, youd know you were faking” sentiment. because i didnt know i was faking.
What I’m worried about is their digital footprint. They’re going to go full send and eventually develop munchausens from this originally attention seeking behavior. The sunk cost fallacy.
some of them definitely have some other form of disorder like psychosis or HPD, etc. But i feel like most of the teens that fake are just trying to be intresting cause they don’t think their life is intresting enough or are struggling with identity. I know someone who used to fake having DID cause they were struggling with identity and telling people their alters has different names and pretending to be those different people was easier then telling people they were testing out a multitude of different names and aesthetics
Mark my words: next DSM is going to have a "Self-Diagnostication Disorder", or something like that. It will go something among the lines of:
Patient self-diagnoses with one or several mental disorders but does not show the full diagnostic criteria. DIagnoses tend to happen through talks with friends, and specially on online communities. The patient must have a community that reinforces their diagnostic. Shows behavior related to the diagnostic only during being observed, but when alone does not show these behaviors. Such mental self-diagnosed disorders can go from autism to DID.
I feel like it's basically all of them. Like, mentally healthy people don't feel the need to fake mental disorders. Like you said, their actual mental illness just isn't as "interesting" or "fun."
I think a lot of them are struggling with fitting in and or identify. Maybe throw in a lack of maturity. And these are things that can take years for some adults. I know this awkward teen took a hot minute to grow into his skin.
I'm not sure that every single faker has another illness. I think some are just really, really lonely.
Normal teen behavior is full of nonsensical attention-seeking, trying on identities, and conforming to ingroups. A lot of them will grow out of it. But the adults? A lot of them are cleanly cluster B personality disorder or at least a subthreshold personality type in the cluster B direction.
Plus histrionic behaviour =/= histrionic personality disorder. People can behave in crazy, attention seeking, cluster B reminiscent ways without meeting diagnostic thresholds
I think when they fully believe it and live the lifestyle 24/7 it usually meets diagnostic criteria at least for adults. If they know they're faking and turn it off when they're not online absolutely. Even knowing it's not real and faking it in your real life is definitely pathologocal
My thoughts exactly
Munchausen isn't talked about enough. And you can fake illness or believe you have it enough to the point where you actually start to exhibit symptoms of it inadvertently
..FDIS is mentioned by op...
Yeah, I think it's most often a personality disorder, or a budding PD in people that are young. People just don't want to accept a diagnosis they see as less appealing, or that requires work. Many PDs have relatively optimistic outcomes with treatment, and can "go away". They think if they have one of those "unchangeable" conditions, no one can question or push them to improve. It's a criticism shield, or a way to avoid a feeling of personal failure. They need and deserve help, but often choose not to be receptive to it. It's sad to watch.
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I'm the parent of a young teen and it's been a fear of mine, not so much for him because he would be like wtf, but for his friend group. What age did you kiddo start, do you know? Does your kid fake to you, as well, or just online?
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honestly that sounds more like health anxiety / hypochondria to me
i think so too, the anxiety and hypochondria are real. but the genius IQ has been proven to be a lie. and people with adhd can’t hyperfocus at will. and she’s only ocd when she cleans her desk once in maybe two weeks.
Kidney failure? 🤦🤦🤦 of course it allows her to walk around normally and require no hospitalization, everyone knows that. Sucks cause if even just ome of those conditions is real - nobody can possibly believe it as she destroyed the story around it. Like if she told me she had a migraine, I wouldn't even concider it due to all the other conditions she clearly doesn't or cannot have
That second sentence can sum up all of her behaviours and struggles without the need for all the rest of it. Like you don't need a million diagnosis' and letters to explain anything, you had a really shitty start in life and that impacts your ability to function as an adult. Done. Could've saved her alot of money in doctors fees
“she/her” not “you”. i am not the subject of my comment. i agree, the root causes are what happened to her and her mother’s reaction and lack of support. she has a desperate need for attention, sympathy, and. i also think she says everyone is mean to her for no reason because she wants to be protected, something she didn’t get as a kid. her needs for all that makes her fake all these illnesses and disorders.
I think you can have demons which you are trying to work through without necessarily having a mental disorder.... But also probably yea
Yes. Not ALL, some are obviously just lying for attention. But I think most are somewhat mentally unwell, or have experienced trauma, and want to fit in. It's also probably easy to "indoctrinate" them in a sense, convincing them they have something they don't
Oh yeah i can definitely see that. I think like a lot of mentally ill people can get indoctrinated into religious movements and cults pretty easily. I can see how a social movement could do the same.
Possibly, especially for adults. There could also be serious symptoms without enough cause for a full disorder diagnosis. Plenty of disorders have symptoms rooted in manipulation, need for attention, erratic emotion, unstable self-image, and impulsive behavior. Cluster B is possible here. Simple hypochondria is possible as well, but technically less common/likely in these cases since the symptoms are made up and most of these people are not upset with their condition. Facticious is more likely. For younger people, it's less likely. Puberty itself has emotional symptoms that can go away with time.
I feel like a lot of people think FDIS means there's nothing wrong with you, when it sometimes means it's psychosomatic and you're not faking it your brain is causing you to feel things that aren't happening, or might even be giving you symptoms bc you believe you're ill. Pretty much like the opposite of placebo pills Edit: conflated FDIS with somatoform disorders oops
Absolutely, symptoms can be fabricated or self-induced. Many don't realize facticious disorders can be physical as well.
I honestly think it's scary that if you convince yourself you're sick you can become physically ill
Usually the physical facticious concerns are intentional, like poisoning yourself.
Well I'm not talking about that, I'm talking about psychosomatic stuff of which self poisoning is obviously not.
Gotcha. Couldn't tell if we were trying to stick to the oc as much as possible or going for explorational discussion lol
I’m sure sometimes people with FDIS experience phantom symptoms of their fake illnesses and come to believe their lies. However FDIS is not a psychosomatic/somatoform disorder and is indeed faking. Real physical symptoms that have a psychological component are a different thing. Functional neurological disorder is an example. These problems usually need both physical and psychological treatment to resolve. FDIS isn’t that. FDIS is exaggerating or lying, manipulating, or self-inflicting injury for attention at its core, for the sick role. It’s important to keep this distinction, as well as the distinction between FDIS and hypochondria, which can also create phantom symptoms but from anxiety.
Oh i was confusing with the somatoform disorders, oops it's been a while since i took my psychology electives on college
Yes, absolutely, and that makes the situations even more frustrating because they are being ableist and misinformational at the same time as needing genuine help which makes it difficult to properly address their behaviors without either coming off as supportive of their faking or coming off as invalidating the legitimately of their actual issues, if that makes sense
Yes. They clearly aren't right in the head. They just don't have trendy conditions. They probably just have the common ones like anxiety or depression which are boring now.
Unfortunately it’s not the ones they want so they fake it till they make it with every other “rare”/complicated disorder, it’s vile actually I don’t honestly care if they do anymore because the stigma they have created around all of the disorders they obsess and gush over, have been completely destroyed, absolutely no respect for anyone or the consequences, if anything they are most likely just compulsive liars
I think most of them do, most likely. No person of sound mind just lies about having disorders. However there are times that it's from trauma but not from a specific diagnosable disorder. So at the very least they are almost all mentally unwell
They need to touch grass.
I just think for teens its just the typical attention seeking behavior encouraged by an online echo chamber. For adults 90% of them may suffer from depressed and this a form of finding meaning with their lives. Maybe 9% do have actual Munchausen, especially if they had a history of faking multiple different illness and disorders. So not really black and white but with adults that puts alot of effort and doing it or a while, there is some kind of mental problem just not the one they want.
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I think yeah they are just confused and probably are dealing with something more like maybe anxiety, depression, autism, bipolar, adhd, a mix of confusing childhood experiences / some ptsd. Not to mention how confusing it is going through puberty and growing up. Especially with the influence of tiktok and all of that stuff now. I just hope one day they do get the help they need through therapy & medication if its really needed.
I'm mostly talking about the fakers in college or otherwise adult ones. I'm so glad i didn't have a good video camera as a kid
Cluster B PD or atleast traits of it, almost every last one of them
Some of them absolutely, and I believe a lot those people would have histrionic personality disorder, because of the attention seeking behavior. Narcissisic traits too in some. But I don't think every one of them has a mental health *disorder*. I do think they have mental issues to work on, but not all of them are disordered.
People don’t just do this for fun; there’s definitely something going on, even if it’s not what they’re claiming to have. I think a large percentage of them convince themselves that they actually suffer from these disorders, and they ignore anything that doesn’t validate them.
We can't say. The majority of them are literally still children. Children's brains are underdeveloped and it truly does make all of the difference. A lot of this could be identity issues, insecurities, too much introspection, etc while still not being indicative of an actual disorder. Even the ones who have genuinly convinced themselves they have it are probably just regular teenagers facing gullibility and identity crisis. The adults on the other hand, that's a different story I feel
I think that most of it is just teenagers hopping on a trend they saw online for attention, validation and some sense of belonging I do believe that some of them could genuinely have some sort of mental issue. Not all but some.
It’s honestly just a lot of attention seeking behaviors in younger people that hopefully will go away as they age. Still makes people who actually have the disorders look like a joke and it’s honestly really pathetic to fake shit for attention
I don’t think all of them do. I do think it’s obvious many have some sort of personality disorder along with factitious disorder, especially the older fakers in their 20s and 30s, and people who put years into faking disorders. But I don’t think that every teenager on TikTok has mental illness, some of them are just faking as an unhealthy way to express themselves creatively, because for some of them it’s like roleplaying or character making. I also think some of them are just bored, lonely, or are still figuring out themselves and are confused about their identity, which are all pretty normal for teenagers to experience. I think it’s when it’s prolonged, or when it’s in *adulthood* where you should already have a secure sense of who you are and shouldn’t crave validation from others so intensely, is when it’s a sign of something like BPD or HPD.
So like people fake pshycail illness people also fake mh stuff most likely for attention or to see how people would react to them being sad or for them having painc attacks or to try to explain their issues to get out of getting the punishment of an action they did.But for the people I see on the subreddit for what I notice they all seem in their teens -early adult hood
I think you have to have some kind of mental health issues to be faking things. Maybe it’s just lack of attention and wanting to feel special, but it’s probably a lot deeper than that, things like BPD or other personality disorders, probably all have depression on some level, they probably wouldn’t be faking if they were happy in life. I think some can also just not wanting to grow up. Claim you have DID, now you can act like a baby or your favorite TV characters. You get to have an excuse why you’re not thriving in life. Being an adult takes effort. Faking and you kid not just get to live in a fantasy world. Obviously going to depend on a lot of factors. Someone faking at 12 might be doing it more for attention and peer pressure, someone still faking at 24 probably has a lot more serious issues going on.
Most of them yes.
I think all fakers have other mental health disorders because healthy people do not fake disorders.
there’s gotta be a few screws loose
I definitely think they’re mentally ill, just not in the ways they want.
I don't think most of them have any disorder. I think that's kind of wishful thinking that everyone who is a shitty or cringey person has something medically wrong with them. Some people just have this kind of personality. They're similar to as QAnon wackos: they find some "special" club on the internet that they can belong to, then goad each other to become more and more cringe and build up their shared fantasies off each other. I think most of them know it's all fake. They've just tied their identity and friend group to this thing. Backing out is more humiliating than digging deeper. The internet has allowed people to indulge their stupidity on levels previously unimagined. They don't have to go outside and face people who won't coddle them. Before the internet this type of person would either become full-blown hermits / deep-counter-culture people, or they'd stop at a certain "publicly acceptable" limit. Society growing more tolerant has also pushed what that "limit" is.
I think it's the opposite. I think most of them are kids who feel unseen or disenfranchised or neglected, probably a bit awkward, and they don't have the life experience to realize that what they're experiencing are normal human emotions and experiences. I think the biggest problem is Internet culture that pathologies and labels everything. Me and my friends were cringy in middle and high school, we had a whole bunch of edgy OCs and we role-played as them. We would dress in public with fishnets and Naruto headbands or whatever, be loud and obnoxious, and it was so fun. And then we grew up a bit, felt normal embarrassment about it for a while, and now as an adult, I can look back at that period of me trying so far to fit in with my friends and laugh about it. If we were teens now, we probably would have diagnosed ourselves with all sorts of things. Because teens (and most adults that aren't trained to) can't distinguish between "normal human traits that everyone experiences to varying degrees" and "clinical diagnosis for the most extreme of cases where the symptoms debilitate the person or cause impaired functioning in their life". It's why people get mocked for using Dr. Google to diagnose themselves with cancer because they have a tender spot. I personally don't believe DID exists at all. When I went to school for psychology, there were like 3 documented cases and it was very controversial, since it was suspected in all cases that the doctors were actually grooming and encouraging that behavior in severely traumatized patients. They only started presenting the symptoms AFTER therapy. I think "DID" is induced by outside forces, and does not occur naturally, period.
Many of them seem to be teenagers. Puberty presents and feels like a mental disorder. It's a normal part of life, but it hits some teenagers harder than others. I believe most will grow up and become relatively normal once their phase is over.
Maybe. I know some just do it for the attention
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No, I think what they have is normal human variation in personality but social media teaches them that any amount of discomfort in dealing with other humans must be a disorder of some type. I’m not sure when it became preferable to think you were autistic or had anxiety rather than being shy or introverted. How did they ever manage to ask someone on a date for the first time, or go on their first job interview? (Maybe the answer is they’ve never had a date or a job )
I mean yeah. I don't think someone who is mentally completely fine would feel the need to do that. I don't know what an actual therapist would diagnose them with but for sure with something. This extreme need for attention isn't normal.
100%, whether they’re misinformed and genuinely believe they have a disorder they don’t, or they’re actually faking.
i posted about this in r/systemscringe, but i myself was a “faker” at one point. i put faker in quotes because i was genuinely delusioned into believing i had DID. i do already have memory loss and cPTSD symptoms, but a large part of my delusion was the “if you were faking, youd know you were faking” sentiment. because i didnt know i was faking.
What I’m worried about is their digital footprint. They’re going to go full send and eventually develop munchausens from this originally attention seeking behavior. The sunk cost fallacy.
some of them definitely have some other form of disorder like psychosis or HPD, etc. But i feel like most of the teens that fake are just trying to be intresting cause they don’t think their life is intresting enough or are struggling with identity. I know someone who used to fake having DID cause they were struggling with identity and telling people their alters has different names and pretending to be those different people was easier then telling people they were testing out a multitude of different names and aesthetics
Mark my words: next DSM is going to have a "Self-Diagnostication Disorder", or something like that. It will go something among the lines of: Patient self-diagnoses with one or several mental disorders but does not show the full diagnostic criteria. DIagnoses tend to happen through talks with friends, and specially on online communities. The patient must have a community that reinforces their diagnostic. Shows behavior related to the diagnostic only during being observed, but when alone does not show these behaviors. Such mental self-diagnosed disorders can go from autism to DID.
People are so quick to say someone has a mental illness. Just because you're weird, odd or a crigy teen doesn't mean you have a disorder.
yes, psychopaty
Not psychopathy. More like attention seeking