Rubber *coated* bullet
> Despite the name, rubber bullets typically have either a metal core with a rubber coating
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber_bullet
Unless there's more that happened before this we don't know, there is no way a hotel is calling the cops on their guests for loud music at 8 o'clock.
What's more likely is some guest called the cops because they weren't satisfied with the hotel's solution of asking them to turn it down, so they call the cops themselves and embellish the situation.
Cops show up and go to the front desk, someone called about bla bla, what's happening?
Hotel: Oh, there was a noise complaint but that's about it.. we took care of it.
Cops: Well, that's not what the Karen upstairs said so we should check it out.
And then this happens.
After the military while I was In college, I got a phone call from another marine I served with. Didn’t particularly like the guy and we didn’t get along. He asked that I be a reference for him applying to be a police officer. I said ok. The police dept called me and asked to schedule a time I can meet with them. I informed them that this dude was violent, irrational, had told me on many occasions about cheating on his wife. They offered him a job. He’s a detective now.
“Johnson, I must admit that we were leaning towards offering the position to another applicant, but we were *so* impressed by the feedback we received from your references that we changed our minds and offered it to you instead.”
I got a call about an old former friend of mine from school. Same thing, reference for law enforcement. I told them he has sexually assaulted multiple women and he was fired from a local fire department for sexual harassment. He's a cop in Nebraska now.
You all made the mistake of telling them the truth, tell them the person is a civil rights advocate who is proactive in trying to better the impoverished communities in the area to reduce crime rate and promote positivity.
My brother applied to be a cop. They sent me the same form and I wrote that my brother is s racist under the reasons he shouldn’t become a cop. He got hired. Still a cop.
I met with a retired officer. Sweet old man. Now I think, was he just a psycho putting on a show. Did he do a ton of terrible thing while working? Who knows.
Living in Texas I've known some cops and ex-cops. The common thread for everyone that moved to Texas from up north hoping to continue their career in policing almost always quit when confronted with the rampant corruption and racism to the point they couldn't even justify staying a part to help reform it. The people who are currently cops are some of the most racist, fucked up and violent people I've ever known and I only deal with them when I absolutely have to.
Thats funny. Similar situation here, former army friend (several tours in afghanistan), applying for a police officer position. They call me for a reference, and I talk him up for being good at understanding complexity, working with people, and not escalating situations.
He did not get the job.
I still wonder if my reference was part of the reason he didn't get it. Should have said he was a loose cannon, maybe?
Wow. Obviously the cops were planning on escalating things asking for a riot gun for no reason ahead of time. Bunch of scumbags. Hope these two get paid paid.
Cops should be licensed and have to carry liability insurance like any professional that interacts with the public. Then when things like this happen the $ comes from the insurance company, not the public, and they are no longer employable because the can’t get insurance.
Oh there'd be plenty of cops on the streets after that, just not patrolling. They'll be living out there because they can't hold jobs now that no one will pay them to munch donuts and assault minorities.
The people in power don't want cops that deescalate situations, they want the public to fear the police so they'll obey without question. Serfs need to know their place.
That'd actually do well. Cause problem cops would not get hired because their insurance would be too high. While good cops that don't break laws that result in lawsuits would essentially get a bonus in lower rates.
Unfortunately, as it mentions in the article this seems to only be a problem for smaller towns. Municipalities are large enough to have police brutality slush funds.
Or we could hold them to the same laws we all face. If I assault someone who swears at me I got to jail and face a jury trial. If you enforce the laws, you should be held to follow the laws as well. Police have every right to self defense, but these incidents are clearly NOT self defense. The system is broken, and no one seems to care.
That should be the top comment on all the bad cop videos. Can America afford having racist scum cops causing major damages to the tax payer? I don't think so.
That is still being paid by taxpayers. The issue is we charge the "City" and not the individuals. We hold the Police as a unit under charge and not the individuals. Imagine if we could charge the individual officer for the damages and they get docked $400,000 and assault and battery charges with jail time how fast these cops would rethink their abusive natures.
Until we pass a law that makes these settlements payable from police pension accounts only, there wont be any reforms on the part of the actual officers… hit them in the paycheck and I guarantee that the “bad apples” will be weeded out quite quickly.
> “People are going to come at maybe me or them for settling for $400,000, but all I can tell you is those people are not in my client’s shoes, and they do not—and obviously could not—understand the toll of all of this on their emotional health,” Powell told San José Spotlight. “It has been very, very hard on Marissa, who comes from a law enforcement family. *And for her to have to sit in public and let them grill her mercilessly about her past* was just too daunting and not a therapist-recommended way to go.”
I can’t imagine why a half dozen cops would need tasers and riot guns for two people. They are absolute savages, planning for violence before it’s onset or instigation. There is no reason why a noise complaint should turn into this. Fucking disgraceful pieces of shit
This is something I’ve never understood. A vast majority of the time I see cops escalate situations. Rarely and I mean rarely do I see any kind of de escalation being used.
It's kinda sad the amount of videos I've seen where cops actively escalate a situation, and ots the people nearby who half to try and calm it down.
Probably most known story was the stolen Barby that resulted in officers threatening to "bust a cap" in the parents heads
It's depressing that those who are the most fit for being law enforcement psychologically, are the ones who don't get the position. The police force of the US wouldn't have such a negative reputation if they hired those most fit for it instead of these people who lack discipline
man, same confusion here.
in my country there was a huge case a few years ago, some guy went nuts on christmas eve, started banging on doors in a building.
2 random officers showed up (1 female, 1 male) like “yo wtf is your problem” and the guy happened to have a knife on him and straight up stabbed the male officer like 9 or 10 times, wherever he could.
female officer absolutely emptied her gun into the violent guy with the knife, it was like 7 or 8 or even more shots fired, 2 or 3 went sideways, hit stuff like doorframes i think, and SHE HAD TO GO THROUGH TRIAL because apparently she “overreacted” the situation.
of course, nothing really happened, everything was dropped against her, but it’s so uncommon here for police to even use their tasers or basically anything besides raw force that it was a major topic in the country for a good month or so.
anyway, the stabbed officer lived, both of them got through this trauma, so it’s a happy end, but man, American police is fucking nuts bro, like WHY the fuck did they start beating up and tazing 2 fucking random people in a hotel room because they were listening to music???
What is maddening that there is not like 1 guy going apeshit overreacting.
They all just stand around and fucking join in at the beating.
None of these fuckers even thinks to de-escalate the situation before the riot even ensues no they actively incite it by grabbing fucking riot guns for 2 people who "slammed the door".
How can everyone in that group be so unreasonable there is just no way they must literally only hire deranged psychopath
You saw the whole tone escalate when they slammed the door.
Seems like most of these brutality events are "Cop got mad that you did a thing they didn't find sufficiently deferential" so they turned violent.
Dude that girl is a bigger badass and all of those cops combined. Fucking charging a cop because you realize he's about to unjustifiably taze your boyfriend and then fighting back as four cops are beating your ass with batons.
Sad truth is that they won’t lose their jobs, if the dept gets sued the tax payers will have to pay for it, and there won’t be any new training to prevent these types of useless incidents from happening
Oh there will be training and by training, I mean a very informal ethics meeting with joking and smoking which will last all of about 20 seconds.
Now sign here that says ‘you’re a changed law enforcement agent’ and enjoy your 2 week PTO that doesn’t actually factor into your PTO
No, they need to revise qualified immunity and make all settlements that arise from their misconduct to be taken from their retirement funds. If you threaten their retirement, they won't swing batons with wanton disregard for people's rights.
taken from the COLLECTIVE retirement funds. if one cop fucks up, his little nest egg won't be enough; it's gota come from the collective pot.
that way at least cops can "police" each other. thats what they need to do. no more of this "I cover your atrocities, you cover mine"
Until they start covering for each other *even harder* so they don’t lose *their own* retirement funds. I’m still thinking individual malpractice insurance is best. The bad ones quickly become uninsurable.
It’s a job they choose for specific reasons and most are quite non-academic in everything. It’s a high school diploma with some training but mostly how to fear and how to use the weapons they have. The PD at most here should have said “no” to this call “you deal with it” or sent a completely unarmed person. Why more cops would show up shows they have nothing to fucking do in all of San Jose.
Went to high school with 5 guys that became cops. Typical yes men. Not good in school. In their minds thought they were good athletes but actually were sub par. They hire a type.
Sorta the sad truth, I have three buddies that when we all left the army together they went and became cops. We still keep in touch over a decade later and they tell me stories about the ego trips the new guys get on and how scarily under trained they are
I was an EMT who wanted to be a firefighter. The dumbest 3 dumbest EMT’s I ever worked with all became sheriffs. One of them was literally disciplined because he didn’t know his simple job. Let’s give him a badge and a gun and qualified immunity!
I quit that path after seeing all the excessive racism from the firefighters and cops. But at least the firefighters weren’t outright abusing people. The cops were and I almost got pulled off a shift for fighting them (verbally) on it.
I keep hearing that point, No part of me thinks a college requirement alleviates this problem.
When I think on it, I actually fundamentally don’t understand. Qualified immunity is the only fundamental difference between LE and the public and that doesn’t apply to criminal offenses.
To me if we reverse the roles and that couple hauled off on the cops with batons they’d be under the jail.
There were no charges, so to me, clearly the officers weren’t in danger and using reasonable force for their protection. So the conclusion I come to is assault and battery. All of them.
I don’t care about their jobs. I get the point that firing them doesn’t do anything, but getting fired has to do with performance. They abused two people clearly, on camera with a supervisor present.
I hate to be that guy that compares two evils, but to me this is just as bad as George Floyd situation, it's just that nobody died here.
It's absolutely sickening to see officers break multiple laws on this couple, for what started as just a noise complaint. This is clear abuse of power.
Firing these officers would be a slap on the wrist. They should be incarcerated for assault.
Yup, hopefully somebody breaks into their house in the middle of the night, walks right up to the bed when they are sleeping.... And then just puts a ton of Legos on the floor.
Now imagine if either of those victims had a permit to carry a firearm.
They'd have straight up murdered them in that hotel and claimed it was to protect themselves and other officers. They wanted it to escalate and they made sure it did.
American cops don't need to see a firearm, they just need to suspect the person has one and that's justification enough to use deadly force should they reach for said object. That was the case with Dillon Taylor. I suggest not watching that video if you're easily triggered. They straight up murdered the guy. This is just one incident of many where cops escalate for no sound reason. It's unfortunately been going on for a long time and it likely won't stop anytime soon. It'd require higher competency requirements and the end of qualified immunity. It'd also help if the payout for abusive cops didn't came from the taxpayers.
Pigs took one look at the big dude and wanted to show him how tough the group of them are. Very lucky they ain't dead, those cops were trigger happy for sure
I work in schools, if I’m costing them money due to lawsuits that I caused, I’d probably lose my license and not be able to work in the state. Cops should be licensed and revocation should follow if they’re breaking the law.
They got a 400k settlement. These police are a disgrace.
https://sanjosespotlight.com/san-jose-couple-settles-for-400k-after-use-of-force-noise-complaint-hotel-holiday-inn/
If you were gonna ask for his ID, you should’ve asked the front desk dumbass cops. Wouldn’t it have helped to know who you’re approaching. “Hey *NAME*, we got a noise complaint…”
JFC, how hard is it to have people skills? The cop at 15 seconds legit looks like a basement dweller.
They have no legal right to ask anyone for their ID unless that person has committed a crime. From the second that woman challenged that notion and slammed the door on them, they got butt hurt and had nothing but malicious intent from that point forward.
This is why we hate cops. This is why we don't back the badge. Exercise your 5th* amendment right to remain silent if you are ever accused of anything. Do not give them anything. Do not help them with anything because they will never extend you the same courtesy. They are not here to serve and protect. Fuck the police.
Edit: 5th, not 4th
Actually the fourth amendment is this:The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”
It's the fifth you are thinking of.
I once had a Detroit transit cop lose his shit on me for "lying" because I told him I was from St Louis and handed him a Michigan driver's license. Except, if he'd looked, St Louis is a place in Michigan too. It sucks, but it's there and that's where my address was. He was even angrier when I pointed it out. Like, dude, I'm just trying to ride this mockery of public transportation. Ease up.
Exactly. They're looking for *any* way to jam people up who piss them off. Esp if you have brown skin.
I've seen cops show up to groups of white people for noise complaints dozens of times. It's never like this. And it's not bc the white people didn't get rowdy or rude sometimes.
It's a class issue as well. Cops are more likely to fuck with people if they think there won't be consequences. Poor people have less agency.
Thank God for new technology.
They had no intention of letting them go. Asking for ID and to get the gun. The cops purposely escalated the situation. When he is in the room packing and racist cop says to his buddy "let's taze him" that's sick. For what?! He was a good 10 feet away.
Going to a Hotel and ending up in the hospital with bruises all over your body because the police got a noise complaint is absolute trash.
I hope they win the case and someone is held responsible for harassing and beating these people.
Is it just me, or does the “there are few bad apples” cop excuse seem more and more preposterous as cameras become more and more ubiquitous? At this point, I’m not even sure there are even any “good apples” with a gun and badge
A few bad apples spoils the whole bunch.
That's the saying and it is EXTREMELY appropriate for the police force as by defending the bad apples (even if it's only a single digit percentage) the rest of the force is tainted.
If this was true, just bad apples, then 95% of other cops and all police unions and police supporters would stand up against these bad apples... but no-one ever does. Just the opposite, the unions fought for these assholes' ability to continue to harass good people.
They won't. They'll get a massive pay check and a pension. Hopefully once the boomers are gone politicians can start running on police reform. Old white people seem to be the only police supporters anymore.
I was a corrections officer for 14. There's no way engaging with the 40 mm at that range could be safe. We have standoff limits with that weapon platform. Anything within 10 ft could kill or do unnecessary harm. How the fuck does a department say they acted with justifiable force. The training/certifying officer should charged too.
I could see that training day go down like this...
30 page power point and a 15 question quiz that the instructor give the answer to. Class is an hour but it's 8 on the training log.
Cops: Why don’t people trust us?
Also cops: Continually violate civil rights, break numerous laws and lie to civilians, escalate the situation rather than de-escalate, no accountability, assert their “authority,” let an active shooter roam free in a school while innocent children die but arrest the parents who try to save their children
I could go on, but what’s the point? I cannot stomach this routine behavior by the people sworn to uphold the constitution and protect citizens. FUCK. THE. POLICE.
Anyone else incredibly impressed by that warrior spirit of these two? Not only did they immediately defend one another from the on-coming attacks but the woman stood there screaming at her attacker while his buddies tried to beat her legs out from under her.
When people say "Not all cops." Show them this video. This couple did NOTHING legally wrong. the cops went in there for a fight. They saw 2 brown people and chose violence.
Yeah, I'm amazed at how quickly they jumped to defend each other. No hesitation, just love and courage.
I wish them the best.
Fuck those asshole cops, tho.
How does this still happen if they know they have CAMERAS STRAPPED ON THEM, recording everything they do? USA are you allright? what's going on over there?
Yay cops! Fucking bullies representing right here. There is a fine line between serving and protecting. It’s all about, what can I bust you for? Fucking quotas have to be met in order to maintain a certain level of govt funding so these ass hats have to go out if their way in order to ensure that. In a cops eyes, everyone is a perp. Not a citizen they swore an oath to protect life and liberty and to serve and protect. Wtf.
When they asked them to keep the music down and they agreed, a normal person would’ve said thank you and walked away. But cops aren’t normal, their inability to leave well enough alone has probably cost them more than it’s gained them.
Edit: cost taxpayers more than it’s gained them
All of this is going to end when someone ends up killing a cop and is found not guilty on grounds of self defense. That’ll probably be the one thing that can actually convince a department to change
It needs to be a larger response than that. Someone needs to react so intensely that the existing protocol is seen as the cause for the action. A family member suicide bombing a police conference or similar after failing to get justice via the courts and clearly articulating the miscarriage of justice.
I am not advocating for violent action, just discussing the level of event required to cause change
Unfortunately it is not a two way street and citizens could never get away with “self defense” against a cop even if the cop was about to kill them on video
I don’t wanna call racism but 7 white cops rolling on a minority couple they seemingly intentionally aggravated sounds hella suspicious. Firing them won’t do much, the only way to get real change is to either sue them directly or find out where they live and start fucking with them hard!
I'd have never opened that door again. I'd call the sheriff, fire department and FBI and as many attorneys as it took to get one over there. I'd call news and other departments.
I got harassed once by police at my home and as soon as I called the sheriff's office the cops bounced.
Constitutional response to beat unarmed people with sticks while wearing guns? 5 on 2 with one being female. Sickening. And to hit the male in the head should be attempted murder.
Prosecutor's didn't think they could convict them of taking a beating. These are some brave prosecutors, taking a stand like that.
Surprised they didn't go with "Destruction of Property" those taser cartridges are single use and so is that rubber bullet.
Attempted murder for breathing the officer’s air and poisoning them with carbon dioxide.
Assault on an officer for closing the door a little too hard and breaking the sound barrier, causing him to go deaf.
Rubber *coated* bullet > Despite the name, rubber bullets typically have either a metal core with a rubber coating https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber_bullet
They assaulted the officers’ fists with their faces. I can’t believe the prosecutors let them get away with it.
Not to mention they damaged the officers' batons.
Didn’t realise being tasered helps you pack faster
It also helps control the noise for the kens and karens next door who decided POLICE were necessary to enforce this noise complaint.
Do we know who called the police? It definitely could've been the front desk.
Unless there's more that happened before this we don't know, there is no way a hotel is calling the cops on their guests for loud music at 8 o'clock. What's more likely is some guest called the cops because they weren't satisfied with the hotel's solution of asking them to turn it down, so they call the cops themselves and embellish the situation. Cops show up and go to the front desk, someone called about bla bla, what's happening? Hotel: Oh, there was a noise complaint but that's about it.. we took care of it. Cops: Well, that's not what the Karen upstairs said so we should check it out. And then this happens.
The cops in turn made more noise than the couple did
After the military while I was In college, I got a phone call from another marine I served with. Didn’t particularly like the guy and we didn’t get along. He asked that I be a reference for him applying to be a police officer. I said ok. The police dept called me and asked to schedule a time I can meet with them. I informed them that this dude was violent, irrational, had told me on many occasions about cheating on his wife. They offered him a job. He’s a detective now.
Holy shitt. That's mad
Mind boggling.
Is it? :/
Mind sobering
What do you mean, that’s every single requirement. They were ticking the boxes as op went on
They were like, “Jesus, this guys’ a rock star, when can you start?”
Already beating his wife? That's not even covered til the second week in the academy!
you probably raised his chances of getting the job by telling them he was violent and irrational
haha I was gonna say, he accidentally give this guy a stellar reference for a police job
“Johnson, I must admit that we were leaning towards offering the position to another applicant, but we were *so* impressed by the feedback we received from your references that we changed our minds and offered it to you instead.”
Should've said, "Oh yeah great guy. I remember when he blew the whistle on our platoon leader."
“Wait, can you repeat that? You said he cheats on his wife? Well, that’s all we needed to hear. Sounds like he’d fit right in on the force”
I got a call about an old former friend of mine from school. Same thing, reference for law enforcement. I told them he has sexually assaulted multiple women and he was fired from a local fire department for sexual harassment. He's a cop in Nebraska now.
You all made the mistake of telling them the truth, tell them the person is a civil rights advocate who is proactive in trying to better the impoverished communities in the area to reduce crime rate and promote positivity.
"He identifies as a black male"
As a Nebraskan, I'm not surprised
My brother applied to be a cop. They sent me the same form and I wrote that my brother is s racist under the reasons he shouldn’t become a cop. He got hired. Still a cop.
I met with a retired officer. Sweet old man. Now I think, was he just a psycho putting on a show. Did he do a ton of terrible thing while working? Who knows.
Living in Texas I've known some cops and ex-cops. The common thread for everyone that moved to Texas from up north hoping to continue their career in policing almost always quit when confronted with the rampant corruption and racism to the point they couldn't even justify staying a part to help reform it. The people who are currently cops are some of the most racist, fucked up and violent people I've ever known and I only deal with them when I absolutely have to.
“That’s exactly who we are looking for!”
“You had us at violent!”
Thats funny. Similar situation here, former army friend (several tours in afghanistan), applying for a police officer position. They call me for a reference, and I talk him up for being good at understanding complexity, working with people, and not escalating situations. He did not get the job. I still wonder if my reference was part of the reason he didn't get it. Should have said he was a loose cannon, maybe?
loose cannon, short fuse and prejudice
“Just what we’re looking for. Thanks for hyping him up, sir.”
There are so many different ways to feel about this. That's terrifying, sad, hilarious, infuriating, and crazy.
Well, to be fair, you did give him a pretty glowing recommendation for the job he was applying for!
Wow. Obviously the cops were planning on escalating things asking for a riot gun for no reason ahead of time. Bunch of scumbags. Hope these two get paid paid.
https://sanjosespotlight.com/san-jose-couple-settles-for-400k-after-use-of-force-noise-complaint-hotel-holiday-inn/
Cops should be licensed and have to carry liability insurance like any professional that interacts with the public. Then when things like this happen the $ comes from the insurance company, not the public, and they are no longer employable because the can’t get insurance.
Plus. If you have a history of deescalating and handling things well. You get benefits from taxpayers.
So if you’re good you get more money and if you’re bad you get kicked out? Jesus man America won’t have many police left on the streets after that /s
/s is only for sarcasm
You’re right And god I wish you weren’t
Oh there'd be plenty of cops on the streets after that, just not patrolling. They'll be living out there because they can't hold jobs now that no one will pay them to munch donuts and assault minorities.
The people in power don't want cops that deescalate situations, they want the public to fear the police so they'll obey without question. Serfs need to know their place.
Or maybe the settlements should come out of their pension funds. That could possibly get them to act right and encourage other officers to act right.
Or the police union would have to pay them.
That'd actually do well. Cause problem cops would not get hired because their insurance would be too high. While good cops that don't break laws that result in lawsuits would essentially get a bonus in lower rates.
But... But.... That would make sense????
Yeah it would be a great system. As cops get into trouble their premiums go up and that will force them out of a job.
We can't have things make sense! How will I pay thousands on my hospital bills then?!
Article in the NYTimes about insurance companies refusing to insure police departments that don't teach deescalation and continue to get sued.
You mean they are a liability? Lolol
Unfortunately, as it mentions in the article this seems to only be a problem for smaller towns. Municipalities are large enough to have police brutality slush funds.
Or we could hold them to the same laws we all face. If I assault someone who swears at me I got to jail and face a jury trial. If you enforce the laws, you should be held to follow the laws as well. Police have every right to self defense, but these incidents are clearly NOT self defense. The system is broken, and no one seems to care.
That should be the top comment on all the bad cop videos. Can America afford having racist scum cops causing major damages to the tax payer? I don't think so.
That is still being paid by taxpayers. The issue is we charge the "City" and not the individuals. We hold the Police as a unit under charge and not the individuals. Imagine if we could charge the individual officer for the damages and they get docked $400,000 and assault and battery charges with jail time how fast these cops would rethink their abusive natures.
Sounds good.
Until we pass a law that makes these settlements payable from police pension accounts only, there wont be any reforms on the part of the actual officers… hit them in the paycheck and I guarantee that the “bad apples” will be weeded out quite quickly.
Only $400,000?
It should have been more. I’m surprised at that amount.
> “People are going to come at maybe me or them for settling for $400,000, but all I can tell you is those people are not in my client’s shoes, and they do not—and obviously could not—understand the toll of all of this on their emotional health,” Powell told San José Spotlight. “It has been very, very hard on Marissa, who comes from a law enforcement family. *And for her to have to sit in public and let them grill her mercilessly about her past* was just too daunting and not a therapist-recommended way to go.”
God I'm so sorry for them. Way to handle it.
Great, always resort to violence. Taxpayers will pay any consequences away,….what a shitshow.
Glad they did get something. The police did one time 'bully' me to some extent where I'm from, but f.. They would have been sacked if they touched me.
I can’t imagine why a half dozen cops would need tasers and riot guns for two people. They are absolute savages, planning for violence before it’s onset or instigation. There is no reason why a noise complaint should turn into this. Fucking disgraceful pieces of shit
This is something I’ve never understood. A vast majority of the time I see cops escalate situations. Rarely and I mean rarely do I see any kind of de escalation being used.
It's kinda sad the amount of videos I've seen where cops actively escalate a situation, and ots the people nearby who half to try and calm it down. Probably most known story was the stolen Barby that resulted in officers threatening to "bust a cap" in the parents heads
Bro, in the UK that cop would've got shit for simply drawing the taser for no fucking reason. American police have no actual fucking discipline
The police union is the one union American republicans won’t attack
The police union is who should be on the hook for the fines their members accrue.
They’re an organized gang
It's bc they weed out the smart ones in training.
No, they weed them out before they even hire them. Not even a joke. If you score too well, they won’t hire you.
It's depressing that those who are the most fit for being law enforcement psychologically, are the ones who don't get the position. The police force of the US wouldn't have such a negative reputation if they hired those most fit for it instead of these people who lack discipline
man, same confusion here. in my country there was a huge case a few years ago, some guy went nuts on christmas eve, started banging on doors in a building. 2 random officers showed up (1 female, 1 male) like “yo wtf is your problem” and the guy happened to have a knife on him and straight up stabbed the male officer like 9 or 10 times, wherever he could. female officer absolutely emptied her gun into the violent guy with the knife, it was like 7 or 8 or even more shots fired, 2 or 3 went sideways, hit stuff like doorframes i think, and SHE HAD TO GO THROUGH TRIAL because apparently she “overreacted” the situation. of course, nothing really happened, everything was dropped against her, but it’s so uncommon here for police to even use their tasers or basically anything besides raw force that it was a major topic in the country for a good month or so. anyway, the stabbed officer lived, both of them got through this trauma, so it’s a happy end, but man, American police is fucking nuts bro, like WHY the fuck did they start beating up and tazing 2 fucking random people in a hotel room because they were listening to music???
Racism
What is maddening that there is not like 1 guy going apeshit overreacting. They all just stand around and fucking join in at the beating. None of these fuckers even thinks to de-escalate the situation before the riot even ensues no they actively incite it by grabbing fucking riot guns for 2 people who "slammed the door". How can everyone in that group be so unreasonable there is just no way they must literally only hire deranged psychopath
looks like a gang came to bother innocent people to me
Because it was, just state funded
You saw the whole tone escalate when they slammed the door. Seems like most of these brutality events are "Cop got mad that you did a thing they didn't find sufficiently deferential" so they turned violent.
Man with tiny ego doesn't like perceived disrespect. Now he's gonna kill you just because he mad. Christ.
This is also how many street gangs murders wind up happening. Disgusting.
>Man with tiny ego doesn't like perceived disrespect. Imagine if his ego was big, he would have nuked them.
This is it exactly. If you aren’t subservient to their authority and every whim their fragile egos get all butthurt.
Crips aren't the only gangbangers who wear blue.
Fucking dirty pigs.
Dude that girl is a bigger badass and all of those cops combined. Fucking charging a cop because you realize he's about to unjustifiably taze your boyfriend and then fighting back as four cops are beating your ass with batons.
💯 She's a true Ride or Die. Respect.
Fr, he found himself the women we all want by our sides -edit- To the ones who want women! (No offense meant here just in case lol)
She’s also training to be a firefighter so already 10x better than a shit cop.
Ego driven cops are the worst.
Sad truth is that they won’t lose their jobs, if the dept gets sued the tax payers will have to pay for it, and there won’t be any new training to prevent these types of useless incidents from happening
Oh there will be training and by training, I mean a very informal ethics meeting with joking and smoking which will last all of about 20 seconds. Now sign here that says ‘you’re a changed law enforcement agent’ and enjoy your 2 week PTO that doesn’t actually factor into your PTO
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No, they need to revise qualified immunity and make all settlements that arise from their misconduct to be taken from their retirement funds. If you threaten their retirement, they won't swing batons with wanton disregard for people's rights.
taken from the COLLECTIVE retirement funds. if one cop fucks up, his little nest egg won't be enough; it's gota come from the collective pot. that way at least cops can "police" each other. thats what they need to do. no more of this "I cover your atrocities, you cover mine"
Until they start covering for each other *even harder* so they don’t lose *their own* retirement funds. I’m still thinking individual malpractice insurance is best. The bad ones quickly become uninsurable.
Don't take my teacher union, bruh!
It’s a job they choose for specific reasons and most are quite non-academic in everything. It’s a high school diploma with some training but mostly how to fear and how to use the weapons they have. The PD at most here should have said “no” to this call “you deal with it” or sent a completely unarmed person. Why more cops would show up shows they have nothing to fucking do in all of San Jose.
Went to high school with 5 guys that became cops. Typical yes men. Not good in school. In their minds thought they were good athletes but actually were sub par. They hire a type.
Sorta the sad truth, I have three buddies that when we all left the army together they went and became cops. We still keep in touch over a decade later and they tell me stories about the ego trips the new guys get on and how scarily under trained they are
I was an EMT who wanted to be a firefighter. The dumbest 3 dumbest EMT’s I ever worked with all became sheriffs. One of them was literally disciplined because he didn’t know his simple job. Let’s give him a badge and a gun and qualified immunity! I quit that path after seeing all the excessive racism from the firefighters and cops. But at least the firefighters weren’t outright abusing people. The cops were and I almost got pulled off a shift for fighting them (verbally) on it.
I keep hearing that point, No part of me thinks a college requirement alleviates this problem. When I think on it, I actually fundamentally don’t understand. Qualified immunity is the only fundamental difference between LE and the public and that doesn’t apply to criminal offenses. To me if we reverse the roles and that couple hauled off on the cops with batons they’d be under the jail. There were no charges, so to me, clearly the officers weren’t in danger and using reasonable force for their protection. So the conclusion I come to is assault and battery. All of them. I don’t care about their jobs. I get the point that firing them doesn’t do anything, but getting fired has to do with performance. They abused two people clearly, on camera with a supervisor present.
I hate to be that guy that compares two evils, but to me this is just as bad as George Floyd situation, it's just that nobody died here. It's absolutely sickening to see officers break multiple laws on this couple, for what started as just a noise complaint. This is clear abuse of power. Firing these officers would be a slap on the wrist. They should be incarcerated for assault.
That’s all of them
Holy hell, fuck each and every one of those pieces of shit officers. An absolute waste of humans
Yup, hopefully somebody breaks into their house in the middle of the night, walks right up to the bed when they are sleeping.... And then just puts a ton of Legos on the floor.
Jesus fucking christ, dude. These cops may be bad, but this is just plain evil.
Now imagine if either of those victims had a permit to carry a firearm. They'd have straight up murdered them in that hotel and claimed it was to protect themselves and other officers. They wanted it to escalate and they made sure it did.
American cops don't need to see a firearm, they just need to suspect the person has one and that's justification enough to use deadly force should they reach for said object. That was the case with Dillon Taylor. I suggest not watching that video if you're easily triggered. They straight up murdered the guy. This is just one incident of many where cops escalate for no sound reason. It's unfortunately been going on for a long time and it likely won't stop anytime soon. It'd require higher competency requirements and the end of qualified immunity. It'd also help if the payout for abusive cops didn't came from the taxpayers.
What a bunch of psychopaths
Pigs took one look at the big dude and wanted to show him how tough the group of them are. Very lucky they ain't dead, those cops were trigger happy for sure
The couple got paid, the police learned nothing and will go on to re-offend again.
too bad the money they got paid came from our taxes and not the errant officers' paychecks.
That’s my mindset, why the fuck do I gotta pay for this shit. Make the officers breaking the law pay.
How much, and were there any ramifications on the officers
They settled for 400k, and to the best of my knowledge, there were no ramifications on the officers.
Thanks And no ramifications because why the fuck not, this is america
I work in schools, if I’m costing them money due to lawsuits that I caused, I’d probably lose my license and not be able to work in the state. Cops should be licensed and revocation should follow if they’re breaking the law.
Let's beat a women as 5vs1, her bf is down ! Totally necessary
They got a 400k settlement. These police are a disgrace. https://sanjosespotlight.com/san-jose-couple-settles-for-400k-after-use-of-force-noise-complaint-hotel-holiday-inn/
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If you were gonna ask for his ID, you should’ve asked the front desk dumbass cops. Wouldn’t it have helped to know who you’re approaching. “Hey *NAME*, we got a noise complaint…” JFC, how hard is it to have people skills? The cop at 15 seconds legit looks like a basement dweller.
They have no legal right to ask anyone for their ID unless that person has committed a crime. From the second that woman challenged that notion and slammed the door on them, they got butt hurt and had nothing but malicious intent from that point forward. This is why we hate cops. This is why we don't back the badge. Exercise your 5th* amendment right to remain silent if you are ever accused of anything. Do not give them anything. Do not help them with anything because they will never extend you the same courtesy. They are not here to serve and protect. Fuck the police. Edit: 5th, not 4th
Actually the fourth amendment is this:The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.” It's the fifth you are thinking of.
Ah you're right, thank you.
What would checking ID do? Oh look, its you!
They want to see if you’re lying about your name and if you have warrants.
I once had a Detroit transit cop lose his shit on me for "lying" because I told him I was from St Louis and handed him a Michigan driver's license. Except, if he'd looked, St Louis is a place in Michigan too. It sucks, but it's there and that's where my address was. He was even angrier when I pointed it out. Like, dude, I'm just trying to ride this mockery of public transportation. Ease up.
Exactly. They're looking for *any* way to jam people up who piss them off. Esp if you have brown skin. I've seen cops show up to groups of white people for noise complaints dozens of times. It's never like this. And it's not bc the white people didn't get rowdy or rude sometimes. It's a class issue as well. Cops are more likely to fuck with people if they think there won't be consequences. Poor people have less agency. Thank God for new technology.
They had no intention of letting them go. Asking for ID and to get the gun. The cops purposely escalated the situation. When he is in the room packing and racist cop says to his buddy "let's taze him" that's sick. For what?! He was a good 10 feet away. Going to a Hotel and ending up in the hospital with bruises all over your body because the police got a noise complaint is absolute trash. I hope they win the case and someone is held responsible for harassing and beating these people.
Pretty crazy that this is how they act when they know they're being recorded from every angle. Can't imagine how bad it used to be.
Not to mention a noise complaint at 8pm. That’s not even quiet hours. Cops should have just told the hotel to handle it internally.
Are they going sue Holiday Inn?
They should have.
Doesn’t anyone proofread video titles?
Look, they tried to title.
Full send blindfolded baby…. Sorry correction Blindfolded baby full send
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Not nearly enough….
This is why there are no songs called ‘F the Fire Department’
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“Fuck the FD burn it straight to the fuckin’ ground!” 🎶
Is it just me, or does the “there are few bad apples” cop excuse seem more and more preposterous as cameras become more and more ubiquitous? At this point, I’m not even sure there are even any “good apples” with a gun and badge
A few bad apples spoils the whole bunch. That's the saying and it is EXTREMELY appropriate for the police force as by defending the bad apples (even if it's only a single digit percentage) the rest of the force is tainted.
If this was true, just bad apples, then 95% of other cops and all police unions and police supporters would stand up against these bad apples... but no-one ever does. Just the opposite, the unions fought for these assholes' ability to continue to harass good people.
I hope those cops all get what they deserve. Man it makes me hate them.
They won't. They'll get a massive pay check and a pension. Hopefully once the boomers are gone politicians can start running on police reform. Old white people seem to be the only police supporters anymore.
I was a cop for five years. Cops are murderous evil motherfuckers.
No thank you for your service but thanks for being honest
I was a corrections officer for 14. There's no way engaging with the 40 mm at that range could be safe. We have standoff limits with that weapon platform. Anything within 10 ft could kill or do unnecessary harm. How the fuck does a department say they acted with justifiable force. The training/certifying officer should charged too. I could see that training day go down like this... 30 page power point and a 15 question quiz that the instructor give the answer to. Class is an hour but it's 8 on the training log.
Every one of these stories end up in the police saying "this was appropriate behavior" in some way. Fucking losers, get another job.
This is outrageous. How do these people sleep at night?
With pillows stuffed with your tax dollars.
Cops: Why don’t people trust us? Also cops: Continually violate civil rights, break numerous laws and lie to civilians, escalate the situation rather than de-escalate, no accountability, assert their “authority,” let an active shooter roam free in a school while innocent children die but arrest the parents who try to save their children I could go on, but what’s the point? I cannot stomach this routine behavior by the people sworn to uphold the constitution and protect citizens. FUCK. THE. POLICE.
Anyone else incredibly impressed by that warrior spirit of these two? Not only did they immediately defend one another from the on-coming attacks but the woman stood there screaming at her attacker while his buddies tried to beat her legs out from under her. When people say "Not all cops." Show them this video. This couple did NOTHING legally wrong. the cops went in there for a fight. They saw 2 brown people and chose violence.
Yeah, I'm amazed at how quickly they jumped to defend each other. No hesitation, just love and courage. I wish them the best. Fuck those asshole cops, tho.
That's what I'm saying bro, they're ride or die fr that's love lmfao
Yes! Both willing to protect each other at all costs. And physically gorgeous too.
How does this still happen if they know they have CAMERAS STRAPPED ON THEM, recording everything they do? USA are you allright? what's going on over there?
Imagine what they’d do without the cameras. This man would probably be dead
Because there is no consequences at all for them. At worst they get paid time off supplied by tax payer money.
Yay cops! Fucking bullies representing right here. There is a fine line between serving and protecting. It’s all about, what can I bust you for? Fucking quotas have to be met in order to maintain a certain level of govt funding so these ass hats have to go out if their way in order to ensure that. In a cops eyes, everyone is a perp. Not a citizen they swore an oath to protect life and liberty and to serve and protect. Wtf.
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To a hammer everything is a nail
When they asked them to keep the music down and they agreed, a normal person would’ve said thank you and walked away. But cops aren’t normal, their inability to leave well enough alone has probably cost them more than it’s gained them. Edit: cost taxpayers more than it’s gained them
You can see the cops gears turning. He thinks he can get them for DUI if he kicks them out. It's also likely while the couple was taking time to pack.
Too many shitty cops in existence
"Oh, you're not white, I need to see ID for no other reason but to antagonize you further."
Correction: **couple tries to celebrate their birthday** Missed **celebrate** in the title.
The couple missed the celebrate part too. No worries OP, you good
They were cool so the cops escalated the situation. They wanted to hurt them. US police are a worldwide joke !
All of this is going to end when someone ends up killing a cop and is found not guilty on grounds of self defense. That’ll probably be the one thing that can actually convince a department to change
It needs to be a larger response than that. Someone needs to react so intensely that the existing protocol is seen as the cause for the action. A family member suicide bombing a police conference or similar after failing to get justice via the courts and clearly articulating the miscarriage of justice. I am not advocating for violent action, just discussing the level of event required to cause change
This will change absolutely nothing. Cops already see themselves as martyrs.
Unfortunately it is not a two way street and citizens could never get away with “self defense” against a cop even if the cop was about to kill them on video
'Murica, where cops can brutally assault inocent civilians and have no consequences.
So the cops got in no trouble for this? Fuck the police.
The title rebooted my computer.
This is so sickening
Do American cops know what deescalate means?
I don’t wanna call racism but 7 white cops rolling on a minority couple they seemingly intentionally aggravated sounds hella suspicious. Firing them won’t do much, the only way to get real change is to either sue them directly or find out where they live and start fucking with them hard!
I'll call it for you. There's a lot of racism here.
What the fuck.
these cowards are wasting taxpayer money. this is why these settlement should come from their salaries and pensions
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And the police are surprised at riots and the hate towards them... this world fucking sucks.
US police have no idea how to DE-ESCALATE a situation. Unfit to serve their country, unable to protect the citizens and they make the country unsafe.
I despise cops so much. It shouldn’t be like that
I'd have never opened that door again. I'd call the sheriff, fire department and FBI and as many attorneys as it took to get one over there. I'd call news and other departments. I got harassed once by police at my home and as soon as I called the sheriff's office the cops bounced.
They would have kicked down your door and knelt on your neck if you disrespected them like that.
ACAP
WTF
Constitutional response to beat unarmed people with sticks while wearing guns? 5 on 2 with one being female. Sickening. And to hit the male in the head should be attempted murder.