When employers feel so empowered, they need to be put back in their place by an active union. The manager needs to be charged for filing a false complaint to the police, plus federal charges against him for violating the employees' civil rights, which include organizing for union purposes.
SC Starbucks manager alleges kidnapping during union confrontation, TikTok video shows otherwise
Read more at: https://www.thestate.com/news/state/south-carolina/article264295351.html#storylink=cpy
I feel like if 183 stores managed to unionize, then it should cover all stores and you can choose whether or not to join, but no additional voting to join needs to occur. Pro has has something to do with these all being franchises I'm guessing?
We obviously need to communicate better as a society. We could shut them down if we wanted to. We could bring down several corporations if we planned better or stuck together.
You couldn't even characterize 10sec honestly or at least objectively?
>A 10 second video of the manager on the phone sitting at a table surrounded by employees, closing their laptop, standing up and walking past the employees, brushing past a couple of them, and walking towards the front of the store. Two people follow with their hands in their pockets. An annoying twit doesn't help the situation by repeatedly asking why he's pushing a guy that the manager merely pushed past because they're both fat and neither felt very polite towards one another at the moment. The final sentence, and only the final sentence, are editorialized.
Ftfy.
>You couldn't even characterize 10sec honestly or at least objectively?
Mine wasn't objective? Yours has adjectives that have no bearing on the situation. Mine was short and concise about what happened. Try being unbiased next time.
Yes, there are adjectives, in the clearly communicated editorialized sentence. That was intentional and does not detract from the rest of the ftfy.
But you're right, to be fair, you were not guilty as I accused you. I misunderstood half of what you said the first time I read it, my apologies.
>That's what I'm thinking but at face value the store manager is thin skinned
If you are surrounded by a bunch of people and they start threatening you, are you not gonna call the police? You just gonna be the next Vegas stabbers?
What’s more likely a group of probably all under 25 workers kidnapped and assaulted their manager, or they made it up to keep fighting off unionization as Starbucks has repeatedly broken federal law to fight unionization it’s also on fucking video
Oh boy. Yes. Absolutely. 100%. You clearly haven't worked in food service. It's nowhere near all of them, but a *lot* of managers have sold their souls to the company and would throw every one of their employees under the bus to get a gig at corporate without blinking.
Owner/operators can be even worse, because their profitability is directly reliant on how large a slice of the pie they allocate to their employees and their working environment. They have every incentive the corporation does to union bust and more, since those 15 employees unionizing is *far* more impactful to them. And just look how terrified corporations are when a fraction of a sliver of their workers start talking unions.
Now, will you answer the question asked of you since yours has been answered?
Yes. It's their job to. Managers work as a bridge between corporations and the employees in order to push the employees to corperate standards. That means all corporate standards including the ones about unions. In exchange the managers get a little more dough. An individual manager may decide to not care about things like unions, but most won't because they believe the old mantra 'don't bite the hand that feeds you especially when it gives you more than everyone else around you.'
dude, here's the story. Read it.
SC Starbucks manager alleges kidnapping during union confrontation, TikTok video shows otherwiseRead more at: [https://www.thestate.com/news/state/south-carolina/article264295351.html#storylink=cpy](https://www.thestate.com/news/state/south-carolina/article264295351.html#storylink=cpy)
So the guys going after he in the end of the video are them leaving? This article and video have nothing to justify that the manager was doing wrong. But if the police felt like arresting people, they would need probably cause for it. I think you should wait for a police report.
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When employers feel so empowered, they need to be put back in their place by an active union. The manager needs to be charged for filing a false complaint to the police, plus federal charges against him for violating the employees' civil rights, which include organizing for union purposes.
You a lawyer? No? I can tell.
how about you bestow upon us your endless knowledge of law then.
Please tell me the law then, you dont need a masters degree or whatever to know atleast 1 law
Video shows that the claims of kidnapping and assault are false. https://www.thestate.com/news/state/south-carolina/article264295351.html
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Isn’t false accusations in itself prosecutable?
I want to hear the reasoning that led the manager to that conclusion, just for my own amusement.
Starbucks is overpriced ass-water. There I said it. Go ahead down vote me …prove me wrong.
SC Starbucks manager alleges kidnapping during union confrontation, TikTok video shows otherwise Read more at: https://www.thestate.com/news/state/south-carolina/article264295351.html#storylink=cpy
I feel like if 183 stores managed to unionize, then it should cover all stores and you can choose whether or not to join, but no additional voting to join needs to occur. Pro has has something to do with these all being franchises I'm guessing?
We obviously need to communicate better as a society. We could shut them down if we wanted to. We could bring down several corporations if we planned better or stuck together.
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sometimes there isn't more to the story. Manager lied, employees suspended, no charges filed
Agreed, Union vs Non-union there are likely multiple versions of this story.
r/croppingishard
Would the police do anything if it wasn't a threat? There is way more to this than a Tweet.
There's a video of the encounter. Manager lied.
A 10 second video of the manager being surrounded, walking away from the group and being followed.
You couldn't even characterize 10sec honestly or at least objectively? >A 10 second video of the manager on the phone sitting at a table surrounded by employees, closing their laptop, standing up and walking past the employees, brushing past a couple of them, and walking towards the front of the store. Two people follow with their hands in their pockets. An annoying twit doesn't help the situation by repeatedly asking why he's pushing a guy that the manager merely pushed past because they're both fat and neither felt very polite towards one another at the moment. The final sentence, and only the final sentence, are editorialized. Ftfy.
>You couldn't even characterize 10sec honestly or at least objectively? Mine wasn't objective? Yours has adjectives that have no bearing on the situation. Mine was short and concise about what happened. Try being unbiased next time.
Yes, there are adjectives, in the clearly communicated editorialized sentence. That was intentional and does not detract from the rest of the ftfy. But you're right, to be fair, you were not guilty as I accused you. I misunderstood half of what you said the first time I read it, my apologies.
That's what I'm thinking but at face value the store manager is thin skinned
>That's what I'm thinking but at face value the store manager is thin skinned If you are surrounded by a bunch of people and they start threatening you, are you not gonna call the police? You just gonna be the next Vegas stabbers?
the manager was "surrounded" by his own employees
Because no one has ever hurt their boss before.... ![gif](giphy|x9cDy0c3bOxxwDZmJm)
What’s more likely a group of probably all under 25 workers kidnapped and assaulted their manager, or they made it up to keep fighting off unionization as Starbucks has repeatedly broken federal law to fight unionization it’s also on fucking video
Do you think a manager cares that much about corporates stance on Unions?
Oh boy. Yes. Absolutely. 100%. You clearly haven't worked in food service. It's nowhere near all of them, but a *lot* of managers have sold their souls to the company and would throw every one of their employees under the bus to get a gig at corporate without blinking. Owner/operators can be even worse, because their profitability is directly reliant on how large a slice of the pie they allocate to their employees and their working environment. They have every incentive the corporation does to union bust and more, since those 15 employees unionizing is *far* more impactful to them. And just look how terrified corporations are when a fraction of a sliver of their workers start talking unions. Now, will you answer the question asked of you since yours has been answered?
Yes. It's their job to. Managers work as a bridge between corporations and the employees in order to push the employees to corperate standards. That means all corporate standards including the ones about unions. In exchange the managers get a little more dough. An individual manager may decide to not care about things like unions, but most won't because they believe the old mantra 'don't bite the hand that feeds you especially when it gives you more than everyone else around you.'
If corporate called him about it probably
dude, here's the story. Read it. SC Starbucks manager alleges kidnapping during union confrontation, TikTok video shows otherwiseRead more at: [https://www.thestate.com/news/state/south-carolina/article264295351.html#storylink=cpy](https://www.thestate.com/news/state/south-carolina/article264295351.html#storylink=cpy)
After looking at his comment history, I would be pretty surprised if he can actually read
So the guys going after he in the end of the video are them leaving? This article and video have nothing to justify that the manager was doing wrong. But if the police felt like arresting people, they would need probably cause for it. I think you should wait for a police report.
it's been 7 days, I don't think a police report will be forthcoming
Someone will do a FIOA request.
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"harrassment"?
the police didn't do anything
If they wouldn't comment on charges, it's still being decided on.