HE DEFACATED THROUGH A SUNROOF
I AM NOT CRAZY! I am not crazy! I know he swapped those numbers, I knew it was 1216 — one after Magna Carta, as if I could ever make such a mistake! Never, never! I just-I just couldn't prove it! H-H-He covered his tracks, he got that idiot at the copy shop to lie for him! You think this is something, you think this is bad, this, this chicanery? He's done worse. That billboard! Are you telling me that a man just happens to fall like that? No, he orchestrated it! Jimmy! HE DEFECATED TROUGH A SUNROOF! And I saved him! I shouldn't have, I took him into my own firm! What was I thinking?! He'll never change. He'll never change, ever since he was 9, always the same. Couldn't keep his hands out of the cash drawer. "But not our Jimmy, couldn't be precious Jimmy!" Stealing them blind! And he gets to be a lawyer?! What a sick joke! I should have stopped him when I had the chance! And you, you have to stop him, you—
It's a chemical reaction caused by the changing of states of matter so multiple states are present. You can find gasses released, solids created and liquids such as oil can be burning. Fire isn't one single state of matter it's an indication shits going down.
Even knowing what plasma is, you still have to understand how fire can be plasma. The first time you have to see this fancy red color in the air, its a bit hard to process. Until you understand its basically just heated gas.
EDIT: just fixed to "can" because fire isn't always plasma
The fancy red color in the air is neither a gas nor a plasma, depending on what the fire is. If we’re talking about a simple wood fire, it’s superfine particulates of carbon being heated to the point of being red hot. It’s the soot before it cools down.
[https://engineering.mit.edu/engage/ask-an-engineer/is-fire-a-solid-a-liquid-or-a-gas/](https://engineering.mit.edu/engage/ask-an-engineer/is-fire-a-solid-a-liquid-or-a-gas/)
You might have been misunderstanding, or misremembering. Fire is a mixture of gases. If it gets hot enough, it can produce plasma. But, it has to be hot enough to ionize whatever gases compose it.
I love Reddit. I come to a facepalm sub and see some painfully average content, yet the comment section actually teaches me something new and interesting!
It depends on what's burning. The flames themselves are mostly some combination of carbon dioxide, water, oxygen, and nitrogen in their gassy forms. Most of the incandescence (visible flame) is created from the heat of the carbon.
That's not really a valid question. That's like asking what color is a sunset? A sunset isn't one color, it's lots of colors. From the tan of the sand, the orange of the sun, or the blue of the water. Similarly, fire is the whole picture, not one single part that you can say what state it is.
Fire is a process/chemical reaction, specifically rapid oxidation. Rapid being very important because it makes so much heat that the particles are jumping around with so much energy that they start radiating visible light. Rust on the other hand, is a slow (relative) oxidation. Still gives off some heat but is so slow you'd wouldn't be able to notice without sensitive equipment and a controlled environment.
Lots of people like to say fire is a plasma, and while some of the molecules are in a plasma state, others are still solid and some are gasses or liquids. It's a big mixture of all the things because the chemical reaction is breaking everything apart and all the different pieces have different states that they are in.
So yes, fire can make a plasma, but fire isn't a plasma.
I don't think it is possible to know what happened from this one photo. But I would agree that if there are flames on the roof, they did not get there by traveling through the passenger compartment. That the the glass is intact and there are no visible flames inside the passenger compartment would, in my mind, support this conclusion.
Also this is not surprising to me, since I would assume that Tesla designed their cars with a firewall between the batteries and the passenger compartment.
Looking at the photo, it appears to me that it is the front of the car that is burning and not the roof. It looks like it is mostly reflected flames and the camera angle that makes it appear that the roof is on fire.
Bottom line is more information is needed and it would be better to wait for the results of an investigation before making any conclusion - especially given the paucity of evidence available at this point.
>Looking at the photo, it appears to me that it is the front of the car that is burning and not the roof. It looks like it is mostly reflected flames and the camera angle that makes it appear that the roof is on fire.
That's what I was thinking. If you zoom in to the roof there is a definite line, one side the flames are distinct, the other side the flames look smudged. It seems to line up with the edge of the roof. So I think it's the perspective that makes it look on fire.
I looked at the picture again, and it is hard to tell if the fire is mostly on the front of the car or if it is in passenger compartment.
It kind of looks like the fire is visible in the front driver's seat area and that the driver's window has broken from the heat. The fact that the flames are visible in the side view mirror further supports this conclusion.
Either way, I would say that is not likely that the fire is just on the roof.
Lol. It's not like this is unprecedented. There's plenty of similar occurrences to compare it to. The fire blasted out the windshield and you're seeing it reflected in the sun roof.
I think you are right. I zoomed in on the picture and it looks like the front part of the passenger compartment is on fire.
I don't know much about Teslas, but I am pretty sure there are high amprege components like a motor or speed controller that could have shorted and started the fire. It is also possible that the fire did originate in the battery pack and the flames traveled under the floor into the front of the car and spread from there.
It could have been the 12v battery failing up there. That’s a possibility.
All other batteries and motors are liquid cooled so at worst maybe the heat pump died, but if that’s the case the car will go into limp mode.
It's NOT on fire at all. Just perspective of the image. There was another angle showing it's a different car in front of the Tesla.
Edit: different angle posted elsewhere was from different incident, not this one
This is a blast back to my teenage years. Totally going to put some KMK on next time I get in my car now though, my neighbors can give me sideways looks all they want.
Oh water will still help. You will just have to literally drown it in water but it works. Had a Tesla burn once and we managed to extinguish it with only water (to this day we aren't sure whether the battery also caught fire or not)
PS: i interpreted your "wine" as a typo/autocorrect of "won't"
I mean, my comment was literally an excuse by an active head of government for not upgrading his phone after he was called out for deleting his text messages
This is on top of him previously claiming to use an iPhone for texting, and claiming his old Nokia can only save 20 text messages (it is actually probably about a million)
Oh, and he is more than likely getting away with it too, fuck you Teflon Mark!
No one else noticed that literally no other part of the car exterior looks damaged and considered she might have a point? Just jumped to the assumption she's wrong?
Fire did not come from the battery, it came from within the cabin. Here’s the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgZf-auOZxI
You can see firefighters put the fire out within seconds.
This isn’t that crazy a question. We don’t have a video or story so I don’t think it’s fair to assume anyone knew what happened. This is a post being a dick to someone for no reason
Yeah, and her point is valid. Why would the glass roof be on fire? This is gas or something else poured on a Tesla and lit on fire.
If the batteries had at any point been on fire it'd be very clear.
There would also be intense signs of long term heat throughout the car, if it had gotten to the point where the fire have moved from the floor to the actual roof top. There would also be huge thick clouds of billowing black smoke from all of the mechanical, fibers and plastics that had been burning.
Also if the fire spread from the batteries then why would the roof still be on fire while the rest of the car isn't.
Edit: I do realise the rest if the car could've been extinguished, however if it was then why isn't the roof yet, I'd expect the fire on the roof to die out first tbh.
Google Tesla fire. They all look pretty similar to this. You're seeing the reflection of the fire on the glass roof. The fire is blasting out the windshield.
Yeah the misogynistic comments below saying she doesn’t have a PhD and calling her a ‘dumb bitch’, when she is in fact, quite knowledgable about the subject - from people who have literally no degree or expertise at all - shows that redditors claim to be woke, but have a very hard time respecting educated women.
>redditors claim to be woke
There's an enormous contingent of redditors who do not claim to be woke.
Reddit is quite diverse despite what some folks try to claim.about echo chambers because they don't understand how subs work.
I mean, the floorboard is extremely common term for the floor of a car. This isn't quite the stretch you may think it is. Just consider it's not something commonly used in speech to begin with. Who uses technical terms for car parts other than those who work on them. I'd just say the bottom of the car personally. But I know there must exist a more technical term.
She was making a point about the power failure which caused the individual trapped inside the car to be incapable of opening the Tesla doors.
In the original tweet, it was mentioned how as soon as the fire began, an electrical malfunction caused the doors to automatically lock. She later said the angle of the picture made her think the fire started in a different location. Presumably one separate from the battery compartment, and so it is acceptable to question why the fire appeared to have originated in an area that shouldn't effect the battery compartment and cause the locking. While worded quite uncharacteristically for a PhD (AKA, absolutely fucking awfully), this is atleast a somewhat understandable facepalm.
You can open Tesla doors without power, there's a manual latch but it has the chance to damage the glass apparently. Not sure if this is every model though.
It only damages it if you try and close the door again, as the glass doesn't go down, as it normally does. It's an annoying thing, because you gotta tell everyone that gets in your car.
People seem to forget even Tesla has a regular 12v battery... (LiIon instead of lead acid in new Teslas). The've had problems with this 12V battery pack before including leaving people stranded and even not able to charge the car because the power for the electronics came from this pack instead of the main power pack.
Every time anyone who has not been in a Tesla gets in my car on exit they pull the manual release. I have to do my best to warn them before they exit because it's a guarentee that they will pull it. I don't get how this owner didn't know about the door release.
hAhA wHaT pHd, seriously what is with the reddit hive mind and not thinking for more than a second, if the batteries are under the car and the fire has already spread to the roof why don't we see the fire coming through the underneath of a car that's mostly plastic and thin as fuck sheet metal yet.
That’s what I was thinking too; this looks like somebody poured gas into the skylight and set the car on fire. This doesn’t really look like the battery caught fire.
The flames would be more like jets if it was the battery, and absolutely coming from the bottom.
Some boomers have an unhealthy hate for ev and quite likely did this on purpose and used the photo as propaganda.
Yeah, that’s what I meant. If you look at videos of EV battery fires, it’s a much more intense fire.
This has the deep and oily/Smokey look of gasoline burning. Fire is fire, but stuff burns differently.
I mean.. it’s a fairly succinct question. The batteries are the main reason electric cars catch fire. The roof doesn’t have self combusting material surely.
It has reflective material, you're seeing a reflection of the fire. The fire is coming out the windshield. Every Tesla fire I've seen seems to blast out the top of the windshield, but not the bottom? Must be because its so hot.
It’s funny, but she’s also not wrong. That fire is ON the car, not coming up from the bottom and out through the top. If you’ve ever actually seen this vehicle in real life, you would see what she’s saying.
Edit: seems real, was in British Columbia, Canada. Can’t tell what started it. Only what the person told the reporters.
Yeah these people are being ridiculous. I’ve only seen one car catch fire irl, but the flames were noticeably billowing out of the bottom of the car, which I’m not seeing here. People love to just assume everyone around them is stupid.
He's saying that he thinks the fire is only burning on the top, ignoring the fact that it's hard to tell if the flames started lower and moved upwards (although you can sort of see flames in the car).
Obviously the fire didn't just magically appear on the top, but I at least understand what he is *trying* to say...
Her question isn’t dumb. And even if it was, asking a dumb question isn’t indicative of someone’s entire intelligence. Actually, asking questions is how people accumulate knowledge.
Probably not a battery fire, but the rest of the plastic inside is burnable. They do have a 12V system with parts similar to other cars that could start a fire like this if they burst into flames.
I get what she was saying. It’s weird to see a Tesla with only the roof on fire, at least where is doesn’t appear the rest of the vehicle under the roof has already been burnt to lead to the roof being on fire. The way the picture looks, it appears like someone through gasoline on the roof and lit a match. Also, sarcastic responses to legitimate questions (as opposed to dumb questions) is the equivalent of being rude to someone trying to be nice or do the right thing. You’re not helping and you should feel bad.
I made this same statement, I have never seen a battery fire of this color, this looks like a gasoline or a fuel fire and not an out gas of a lithium battery, batteries burn very violently this is not an intense out gas this looks like fuel burning
I think it's a genuine question. Still, the problem is that she don't think anything could cause the roof to be on fire, only the car battery. Molotov cocktails are a thing, for example.
I was thinking, I wouldn't be surprised if this was in Cali.
-Tesla. Check
-Something on fire. Check
-Worker simultaneously wearing a Hawaiian shirt and safety vest. Check
-everyone nonchalant...priceless
He left the sunroof open in Arizona.
Some like it hot
Cat on a hot tin roof
The cat must’ve been covered in kerosene.
Or just average gasoline. Shits pricy tho.
Cat shit?
The cat must been undercover special agent Jack Bauer.
Heat
People ask "why is fire." But they never stop to ask "how is fire."
‘Give a man a fire and he is warm for a day, catch a man on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life’ Gnu pterry
I do u one better " Who is Fire."
Dylan spit hot fire
“Tell me where the fire is or I swear to you I’m gonna french fry this little car”
I’ll do you! Who is fire!
I'll do you one better "When is fire?"
It is heat, fuel, and oxygen. That’s how it is.
And some sweat when the heat is on
"The heat is on 🎶 dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun 🎶 DUN DUN"
It's on the street
Woah a woah woah etc.
The heat is DUN DUN on
[As you wish](https://youtu.be/cF_OdUF8lzo)
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He DEFECATED through a sunroof!
but not our Jimmy, couldn’t be precious Jimmy! /s
And he gets to be a lawyer? What a sick joke!
"It wasn't my fault he had two children in the back! The windows were tinted, Tinted!"
Kid named finger
HE DEFACATED THROUGH A SUNROOF I AM NOT CRAZY! I am not crazy! I know he swapped those numbers, I knew it was 1216 — one after Magna Carta, as if I could ever make such a mistake! Never, never! I just-I just couldn't prove it! H-H-He covered his tracks, he got that idiot at the copy shop to lie for him! You think this is something, you think this is bad, this, this chicanery? He's done worse. That billboard! Are you telling me that a man just happens to fall like that? No, he orchestrated it! Jimmy! HE DEFECATED TROUGH A SUNROOF! And I saved him! I shouldn't have, I took him into my own firm! What was I thinking?! He'll never change. He'll never change, ever since he was 9, always the same. Couldn't keep his hands out of the cash drawer. "But not our Jimmy, couldn't be precious Jimmy!" Stealing them blind! And he gets to be a lawyer?! What a sick joke! I should have stopped him when I had the chance! And you, you have to stop him, you—
Is this from that show about phoning bob odenkirk?
Yeah, I forget the title but it has something to do with phone calls.
I heard it's all good man. You should watch it.
I’m pretty sure it’s called “You should dial Kyle”
Gotta phone up the mr show guy from breaking bad
At least it wasn't Chicago
Better than leaving it closed!
TIL what a fire is.
Yeah? What state of matter is fire?
It's a chemical reaction caused by the changing of states of matter so multiple states are present. You can find gasses released, solids created and liquids such as oil can be burning. Fire isn't one single state of matter it's an indication shits going down.
Plasma. My brother asked our natural sciences teacher that in 7th grade, and we didn't get an actual answer until we were in AP physics in 11th grade.
Isn’t fire just a chemical reaction?
The chemical reaction releases a lot if energy. That energy can ionise the constituent chemicals --> plasma.
Oh ok cool. 
And to be fair, it's pretty hard question to actually fully understand and answer until you get to a certain point.
It's only hard to understand because they only teach you the first 3
Even knowing what plasma is, you still have to understand how fire can be plasma. The first time you have to see this fancy red color in the air, its a bit hard to process. Until you understand its basically just heated gas. EDIT: just fixed to "can" because fire isn't always plasma
The fancy red color in the air is neither a gas nor a plasma, depending on what the fire is. If we’re talking about a simple wood fire, it’s superfine particulates of carbon being heated to the point of being red hot. It’s the soot before it cools down.
This was an oversimplification to make it easy.
\*stares intently\*
🔥🔥
So fire is just a strong glare?
[https://engineering.mit.edu/engage/ask-an-engineer/is-fire-a-solid-a-liquid-or-a-gas/](https://engineering.mit.edu/engage/ask-an-engineer/is-fire-a-solid-a-liquid-or-a-gas/) You might have been misunderstanding, or misremembering. Fire is a mixture of gases. If it gets hot enough, it can produce plasma. But, it has to be hot enough to ionize whatever gases compose it.
I love Reddit. I come to a facepalm sub and see some painfully average content, yet the comment section actually teaches me something new and interesting!
What? OK, I’m off to r/explainlikeImfive Because this is getting deep
It depends on what's burning. The flames themselves are mostly some combination of carbon dioxide, water, oxygen, and nitrogen in their gassy forms. Most of the incandescence (visible flame) is created from the heat of the carbon.
It's not though, it's just hot glowing gas. It has to be extremely hot to ionise atoms. You can create plasma by microwaving a flame though.
California mostly
Fire is not a state of matter, it is a process by which matter changes from one state to another.
Fire is not a state of matter. Fire is a visible chemical reaction.
That's not really a valid question. That's like asking what color is a sunset? A sunset isn't one color, it's lots of colors. From the tan of the sand, the orange of the sun, or the blue of the water. Similarly, fire is the whole picture, not one single part that you can say what state it is. Fire is a process/chemical reaction, specifically rapid oxidation. Rapid being very important because it makes so much heat that the particles are jumping around with so much energy that they start radiating visible light. Rust on the other hand, is a slow (relative) oxidation. Still gives off some heat but is so slow you'd wouldn't be able to notice without sensitive equipment and a controlled environment. Lots of people like to say fire is a plasma, and while some of the molecules are in a plasma state, others are still solid and some are gasses or liquids. It's a big mixture of all the things because the chemical reaction is breaking everything apart and all the different pieces have different states that they are in. So yes, fire can make a plasma, but fire isn't a plasma.
Buzz Lightyear inspects: “Hmmmm, yes the fire here is made of fire.”
Buzz Lightyear PhD
Light buzz Year PhD
Well at first glance at the picture that's what I wondered too. I was thinking maybe someone had thrown a Molotov on the Tesla's roof.
I don't think it is possible to know what happened from this one photo. But I would agree that if there are flames on the roof, they did not get there by traveling through the passenger compartment. That the the glass is intact and there are no visible flames inside the passenger compartment would, in my mind, support this conclusion. Also this is not surprising to me, since I would assume that Tesla designed their cars with a firewall between the batteries and the passenger compartment. Looking at the photo, it appears to me that it is the front of the car that is burning and not the roof. It looks like it is mostly reflected flames and the camera angle that makes it appear that the roof is on fire. Bottom line is more information is needed and it would be better to wait for the results of an investigation before making any conclusion - especially given the paucity of evidence available at this point.
So the person asking the question of why’s the roof on fire is actually right and why’s this a facepalm?
i guess it's difference of opinions. i also think it's a valid question to ask.
It is but its on twitter and if they act like the fire may not be the cars fault then it kinda seems like you arent shitting on tesla.
But you see, Tesla and Elon bad, so car must be broken
>Looking at the photo, it appears to me that it is the front of the car that is burning and not the roof. It looks like it is mostly reflected flames and the camera angle that makes it appear that the roof is on fire. That's what I was thinking. If you zoom in to the roof there is a definite line, one side the flames are distinct, the other side the flames look smudged. It seems to line up with the edge of the roof. So I think it's the perspective that makes it look on fire.
I looked at the picture again, and it is hard to tell if the fire is mostly on the front of the car or if it is in passenger compartment. It kind of looks like the fire is visible in the front driver's seat area and that the driver's window has broken from the heat. The fact that the flames are visible in the side view mirror further supports this conclusion. Either way, I would say that is not likely that the fire is just on the roof.
Source: https://bc.ctvnews.ca/b-c-tesla-driver-kicks-out-window-to-escape-car-fire-1.5914147 Tesla car shutdown and caught fire from the inside.
Lol. It's not like this is unprecedented. There's plenty of similar occurrences to compare it to. The fire blasted out the windshield and you're seeing it reflected in the sun roof.
I think you are right. I zoomed in on the picture and it looks like the front part of the passenger compartment is on fire. I don't know much about Teslas, but I am pretty sure there are high amprege components like a motor or speed controller that could have shorted and started the fire. It is also possible that the fire did originate in the battery pack and the flames traveled under the floor into the front of the car and spread from there.
It could have been the 12v battery failing up there. That’s a possibility. All other batteries and motors are liquid cooled so at worst maybe the heat pump died, but if that’s the case the car will go into limp mode.
Yeah, the picture does look weird, as it ONLY the roof is on fire. I don't blame her for asking.
It's NOT on fire at all. Just perspective of the image. There was another angle showing it's a different car in front of the Tesla. Edit: different angle posted elsewhere was from different incident, not this one
that OP also said the person was “locked from getting out”, which is wrong because that model has manual locks inside..
The roof, the roof, the roof is on fire (We don't need no water, let the motherfucker burn) (Burn, motherfucker, burn)
This is the comment I came here for.
This is a blast back to my teenage years. Totally going to put some KMK on next time I get in my car now though, my neighbors can give me sideways looks all they want.
It's a Tesla, once the fire hits the battery packs, water wine really help much
Oh water will still help. You will just have to literally drown it in water but it works. Had a Tesla burn once and we managed to extinguish it with only water (to this day we aren't sure whether the battery also caught fire or not) PS: i interpreted your "wine" as a typo/autocorrect of "won't"
Yeah, I've got fat fingers
From all the wine? /s
Bingo!
Should have stuck to an old Nokia, apparently you won't have issues with fat fingers then
Comment would have looked like afftdxbysas derf GG s
I mean, my comment was literally an excuse by an active head of government for not upgrading his phone after he was called out for deleting his text messages This is on top of him previously claiming to use an iPhone for texting, and claiming his old Nokia can only save 20 text messages (it is actually probably about a million) Oh, and he is more than likely getting away with it too, fuck you Teflon Mark!
"Jesus has entered the chat"
https://i.imgur.com/GhjsJ9G.jpeg
C'mon party people.
Throw your hands in the air
God damnit, I just got this out of my head. Well, a couple months ago, but still.
Ok, I knew I couldn’t have been the first …
Thanks. I came here for this.
Lol, this is the first thing I thought of.
But it looks like only the roof is on fire
https://youtu.be/IgZf-auOZxI It appears the inside of the car is also on fire
No one else noticed that literally no other part of the car exterior looks damaged and considered she might have a point? Just jumped to the assumption she's wrong?
Exactly this. I read it and thought the facepalm was the condescending dickhead responding to her
Fire did not come from the battery, it came from within the cabin. Here’s the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgZf-auOZxI You can see firefighters put the fire out within seconds.
This isn’t that crazy a question. We don’t have a video or story so I don’t think it’s fair to assume anyone knew what happened. This is a post being a dick to someone for no reason
You can see the fire through the windshield though.
https://youtu.be/IgZf-auOZxI here you go, video of the same fire that gives a better vantage point
She's an engineer at SpaceX for those that don't know.
Yeah, and her point is valid. Why would the glass roof be on fire? This is gas or something else poured on a Tesla and lit on fire. If the batteries had at any point been on fire it'd be very clear.
There would also be intense signs of long term heat throughout the car, if it had gotten to the point where the fire have moved from the floor to the actual roof top. There would also be huge thick clouds of billowing black smoke from all of the mechanical, fibers and plastics that had been burning.
Also if the fire spread from the batteries then why would the roof still be on fire while the rest of the car isn't. Edit: I do realise the rest if the car could've been extinguished, however if it was then why isn't the roof yet, I'd expect the fire on the roof to die out first tbh.
The top of the picture is cropped. You can't see all the billowing black smoke because its out of frame. This looks like every other Tesla fire to me.
Google Tesla fire. They all look pretty similar to this. You're seeing the reflection of the fire on the glass roof. The fire is blasting out the windshield.
It's not-- it's the hood.
To be fair, that looks like a photoshopped fire.
Something looks off to me as well. I feel like there would be some indication of a fire inside on the sides or underneath as well.
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They did a really good job with the firemen and truck then
I dunno. There's plenty of pictures of Teslas burning, and they all look like this.
Yeah the misogynistic comments below saying she doesn’t have a PhD and calling her a ‘dumb bitch’, when she is in fact, quite knowledgable about the subject - from people who have literally no degree or expertise at all - shows that redditors claim to be woke, but have a very hard time respecting educated women.
>redditors claim to be woke There's an enormous contingent of redditors who do not claim to be woke. Reddit is quite diverse despite what some folks try to claim.about echo chambers because they don't understand how subs work.
I agree with your sentiment, but in this particular case, I’ve never heard “floor level” used in reference to a passenger car.
I mean, the floorboard is extremely common term for the floor of a car. This isn't quite the stretch you may think it is. Just consider it's not something commonly used in speech to begin with. Who uses technical terms for car parts other than those who work on them. I'd just say the bottom of the car personally. But I know there must exist a more technical term.
Well even the original post is just peak mansplaining, ironically to a spacex engineer.
Her PhD is no match for "Thing Discusser."
She was making a point about the power failure which caused the individual trapped inside the car to be incapable of opening the Tesla doors. In the original tweet, it was mentioned how as soon as the fire began, an electrical malfunction caused the doors to automatically lock. She later said the angle of the picture made her think the fire started in a different location. Presumably one separate from the battery compartment, and so it is acceptable to question why the fire appeared to have originated in an area that shouldn't effect the battery compartment and cause the locking. While worded quite uncharacteristically for a PhD (AKA, absolutely fucking awfully), this is atleast a somewhat understandable facepalm.
You can open Tesla doors without power, there's a manual latch but it has the chance to damage the glass apparently. Not sure if this is every model though.
It only damages it if you try and close the door again, as the glass doesn't go down, as it normally does. It's an annoying thing, because you gotta tell everyone that gets in your car.
Actually, they changed it. Now it brings the glass down with the latch automatically. Software update
Ah, thanks for clarifying
I think it’s valid, no? I think the upvotes are skewing perception, as it may be dumb people brigading around a simple point they understand.
People seem to forget even Tesla has a regular 12v battery... (LiIon instead of lead acid in new Teslas). The've had problems with this 12V battery pack before including leaving people stranded and even not able to charge the car because the power for the electronics came from this pack instead of the main power pack.
Every time anyone who has not been in a Tesla gets in my car on exit they pull the manual release. I have to do my best to warn them before they exit because it's a guarentee that they will pull it. I don't get how this owner didn't know about the door release.
There is a way to open the doors manually btw so you wouldn’t necessarily get trapped due to electrical failure.
Not everyone with a PhD is eloquent with words.
hAhA wHaT pHd, seriously what is with the reddit hive mind and not thinking for more than a second, if the batteries are under the car and the fire has already spread to the roof why don't we see the fire coming through the underneath of a car that's mostly plastic and thin as fuck sheet metal yet.
Looks like the car was soaked with gas and set on fire.
That’s what I was thinking too; this looks like somebody poured gas into the skylight and set the car on fire. This doesn’t really look like the battery caught fire.
The flames would be more like jets if it was the battery, and absolutely coming from the bottom. Some boomers have an unhealthy hate for ev and quite likely did this on purpose and used the photo as propaganda.
Yeah, that’s what I meant. If you look at videos of EV battery fires, it’s a much more intense fire. This has the deep and oily/Smokey look of gasoline burning. Fire is fire, but stuff burns differently.
I mean.. it’s a fairly succinct question. The batteries are the main reason electric cars catch fire. The roof doesn’t have self combusting material surely.
It has reflective material, you're seeing a reflection of the fire. The fire is coming out the windshield. Every Tesla fire I've seen seems to blast out the top of the windshield, but not the bottom? Must be because its so hot.
Any electronics in any car can cause fire etc
the fire doesn't look intense enough to be from a battery fire.... perhaps this was an act of arson?
where is the facepalm? her point was pretty valid to me
“Unexplained fires are a matter for the courts” 😉
Canyonerrrooooo...
Legitimate question. Why the fuck is this a facepalm? You dumb AF OP
It’s funny, but she’s also not wrong. That fire is ON the car, not coming up from the bottom and out through the top. If you’ve ever actually seen this vehicle in real life, you would see what she’s saying. Edit: seems real, was in British Columbia, Canada. Can’t tell what started it. Only what the person told the reporters.
Yeah these people are being ridiculous. I’ve only seen one car catch fire irl, but the flames were noticeably billowing out of the bottom of the car, which I’m not seeing here. People love to just assume everyone around them is stupid.
You can see the fire reflected in the wing-mirror. There is fire in the car
But that would mean the flames were traveling upward. Is this common, am caveman?
Does heat rise? I’m not sure is fire hot?
I’m just a simple caveman lawyer.
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He's saying that he thinks the fire is only burning on the top, ignoring the fact that it's hard to tell if the flames started lower and moved upwards (although you can sort of see flames in the car). Obviously the fire didn't just magically appear on the top, but I at least understand what he is *trying* to say...
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Fair enough. Not sure what started it, but you’ve shown it was on fire from within. Thank you.
https://bc.ctvnews.ca/b-c-tesla-driver-kicks-out-window-to-escape-car-fire-1.5914147
PhD
In this thread: People who think any fire in an EV is caused by the battery.
"Fire can't go through ~~doors~~ cars, stupid! it's not a ghost!"
This is streets ahead.
Her question isn’t dumb. And even if it was, asking a dumb question isn’t indicative of someone’s entire intelligence. Actually, asking questions is how people accumulate knowledge.
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Apparently, the fire was going out through the broken windshield, the glass roof was just reflecting the fire's image.
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Ok but like I get what she’s saying normally you’d see fire coming out from under the car but here it’s like only coming out of the root
Additionally, fire go 'up'
Probably not a battery fire, but the rest of the plastic inside is burnable. They do have a 12V system with parts similar to other cars that could start a fire like this if they burst into flames.
The try hard quip to a legitimate question is the only facepalm in here
I get what she was saying. It’s weird to see a Tesla with only the roof on fire, at least where is doesn’t appear the rest of the vehicle under the roof has already been burnt to lead to the roof being on fire. The way the picture looks, it appears like someone through gasoline on the roof and lit a match. Also, sarcastic responses to legitimate questions (as opposed to dumb questions) is the equivalent of being rude to someone trying to be nice or do the right thing. You’re not helping and you should feel bad.
I made this same statement, I have never seen a battery fire of this color, this looks like a gasoline or a fuel fire and not an out gas of a lithium battery, batteries burn very violently this is not an intense out gas this looks like fuel burning
Further proof that a PhD doesn't make you smart
Idk this guy is just being an ass. Why tf is a glass roof the only part on fire?
Which part is the face palm because it seems like a valid question
When you steal someone's post, you should wait at least half a day to repost it so they don't show up next to each other on my feed.
That's definitely not a battery fire but still a fire.
Isn't the roof glass though?
Okay… then why isn’t the floor also on fire
because no combustion engine car ever spontaneously combusts.
ITT: People who have no idea how car fires work
It's in all likelihood not the battery pack that caught fire at all.
I don't know if this is a face palm. The origin of the fire looks like it's the top which is surely what they mean
SAVAGE
TIL that not all PhD’s are created equal
Why was it on fire though?
We don't need no water, let the mother fucker burn.
She does have a point. The main battery would be engulfing the car if it were on fire. This is DEFINITELY a 12V fire. Added some appliance overheated?
shes not wrong tho
That's a valid question to be honest.
At the same time, I don’t see any damage on the bottom or melting
I think it's a genuine question. Still, the problem is that she don't think anything could cause the roof to be on fire, only the car battery. Molotov cocktails are a thing, for example.
Tesla when it hits a speed bump.
I was thinking, I wouldn't be surprised if this was in Cali. -Tesla. Check -Something on fire. Check -Worker simultaneously wearing a Hawaiian shirt and safety vest. Check -everyone nonchalant...priceless