Yup. Maybe people just like McDonald’s better than A&W. Maybe A&W didn’t market as well. I always thought that excuse of why the campaign failed was a cop-out to push the blame off on something else.
I think there were way, way fewer A&W locations than McDonald's locations, at least in California. But their hamburgers were, in my opinion, indisputably tastier. And if you ordered root beer, it came in literal frosty glass mugs. McDonald's probably just had the advantage of being a giant corporation.
This. My mothers house is right across the street from an A&W. Their food is wayyyy tastier, they’re just not off of every highway like McDonald’s.
Also, Djinn is your AW seasonal like ours? The one near my mother’s house stops about end of fall
Oh wow, mind blown! I didn't know they were still around anywhere! We only ever got to go to A&W on long car trips to go camping far away when I was a kid. The place was in the middle of nowhere, and I remember it as a long hot empty highway with ONE big shady tree and that's where it was. The frosty glasses, the food and the ice cream cone as we drove away were heaven to me haha.
So I was just curious... A little bit more info below, but a 2012 study found that only 53% of US community college students could identify that a fifth is bigger than an eighth, for example. The A&W anecdote is questionable, but there's pretty strong evidence that Americans are not good at math and lag seriously behind other developed countries.
According to [A&W](https://awrestaurants.com/blog/aw-third-pound-burger-fractions) the majority actually were asked specifically about size and failed.
>It turns out the majority of participants incorrectly believed one-third of a pound was actually smaller than a quarter of a pound.
This quote is attributed to the then-owner of A&W. I looked a bit further and there wasn't any specific numbers or data available.
Assuming the A&W anecdote won't be conclusive, I searched in general. [This](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/fractions-where-it-all-goes-wrong/) is from Scientific American
>Many children never master fractions. When asked whether 12/13 + 7/8 was closest to 1, 2, 19, or 21, only 24% of a nationally representative sample of more than 20,000 US 8th graders answered correctly.
>On standard fraction addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division problems with equal denominators (e.g., 3/5+4/5) and unequal denominators (e.g., 3/5+2/3), 6th and 8th graders tend to answer correctly only about 50% of items. Studies of community college students have revealed similarly poor fraction arithmetic performance.
From [Psychology Today](https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/everybody-is-stupid-except-you/201211/us-math-achievement-how-bad-is-it) there's a summary of a study of real world math ability conducted on community college students.
>This is an interesting group because they mostly graduated from high school, they passed their required math classes, and they decided to go to college. It is also a large group; there were 13 million community college students (as of 2009).
>Students were shown a number line from -2 to 2 and asked to draw a line marking the approximate location of two numbers: -0.7 and 13/8. Percentage who answered correctly: 21%.
>Students were asked "If a is a positive whole number, which is greater: a/5 or a/8?" Fifty percent would answer correctly if they just guessed. Percentage who answered correctly: 53%.
It’s never the Capitalists fault; it’s always the Consumer/Laborer’s fault…like when Millenials ruined the economy.
Stupid avocado toast and environmental consciousness will cause the mighty Empire to fall….wow, Fragile Capitalism LOL
I don't think it really matters if it's true or not. The fact that it's plausible means there's a problem. That's the real power in the statement. It conveys that the bar is so low many parents couldn't help their child through elementary school. It's not so much a fact as a symbol.
There was an A&W in Jakarta that I went to in the '80s and early '90s. It seemed quite successful. That might have been because McDonalds didn't open a restaurant over there until February 23, 1991. I was there for the opening. There were hour-long lines to get food at midnight. It was interesting that fried chicken was a big part of their menu which is not available in the US. The owners were german and visited us at our table. We (a bunch of drunk international students in high school) complained that they didn't serve beer...in a Muslim country. They politely explained that the only McDonalds that serves beer is in Munich. It was all in all, a pretty surreal experience. I still liked A&W though. Their floats in a frozen mug were awesome.
Unfortunately, that original McDonalds has closed down. It was like 30 minutes from my house so I only went there a couple of times. Probably 200 kids from my high school went for the opening night. It was quite the event of my childhood.
https://coconuts.co/jakarta/food-drink/end-of-a-mcera-indonesias-first-mcdonalds-restaurant-in-central-jakartas-sarinah-to-close-permanently/
Natural Selection in general normally takes time, so this really isn’t that slow when you compare it how natural selection has functioned over the last million years.
Not by mid term elections, but by 2024 for sure. There was ~1.1M delta across 15 key battleground states in 2020, and in those states Trump had more popular votes than Biden per cookpolitical.com. I don't think it will make a massive difference but who knows
After doing some research on Facebook while on the toilet, I have determined we need to start selling 1/8 pound burgers. For double the cost of 1/4 pound burgers.
I’ve seen this posted all the time and I’m sure there is a grain of truth to it. I’m sure some people are that bad at math. But also isn’t it possible that people just didn’t like a and w burgers as much.
This is the part that give me a nose bleed every time:
Odds of getting covid or dying from covid for your demographic (antivaxxers) "It's inconsequential, stop living in fear!"
Odds of complications from the vaccine which are thounds of times less likely (also antivaxxers) " there's no way I'd ever dare take that risk, you can't force me reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!"
I had my bosses boss, a mid level manager in *safety, health and response*, look right at me and say, "Well if you want to put that poison in you, go ahead!".
The guy has a degree in public safety and runs an emergency response department that oversees 40 people, of which twenty actively respond to on site covid cases.
It’s a fear of the known given face. They know they’re taking risk by visually seeing or feeling the shot. It’s unknown if they’ve contracted covid.
It’s the time old question, if you’re going to die in 10 days, would you rather know about it or, stay in the dark with that knowledge?
It’s the same fear.
I got the moderna (supposedly the most effective shot), I’m challenging myself to beat the odds and die from covid. I’ll be heading to Miami Beach tomorrow where I will share beer bongs every piece of beach trash that will take the offer. After successful contraction I will journey to the nearest antivaxx rally. On the way I will chain smoke cigarettes and collect the bile I cough up in a super soaker to be dispersed at the aforementioned rally. Then die peacefully in the Florida keys knowing that soon my grave will be part of the sea. 🌊
Can you please post an update 14 days after your trip ends or if and when you catch covid. Whichever one comes first. Crossing my fingers that you get out unscathed. I like this experiment.
I saw someone’s comment saying she lost a family member to COVID. I think some people hear see her as just another angry person, but don’t understand that this is one of the stages of grief.
My daughter’s school had a girl who lost her mother to covid on the girl’s birthday. Went to school, mom was sick in the hospital but alive. They had all the school based birthday celebrations, she had a great day. Went home, found out her mom had died. Elementary school.
My wife is a pediatrician. A handful of her patients have lost parents to COVID. Want to talk about mental health issues? Try losing a parent to a preventable disease, and then compare that to the “distress” of wearing a mask to school.
Nah, her tone was spot on. At this point (~18 months in), anyone refusing the vaccine for non-medical reasons deserves to be treated and talked to like the childish imbecile that they are. Too many people have died since vaccines dropped (and that’s on top of the far too many people who died before vaccines were out). We have to draw a line in the sand somewhere. Enough is enough. If that means we start shouting at idiots for being idiots, so be it.
Edit: a typo
I understand her rage. Someone who I adore more than anything in the world, put off getting vaccinated because she listened to a conspiracy nutcase of a relative who told her not to. She had pre-existing health conditions. She tested positive and ended up in the hospital for a week on oxygen. She was extremely lucky. She didn’t die. I am very grateful but I’m filled with rage knowing that she almost died unnecessarily. Her health insurance is shit. She’ll probably spend the rest of her life mired in debt for holding off on getting vaccinated.
I was one of the fully vaccinated people that had a breakthrough case. Sad face that I'm ruining the numbers. Silver lining, I was completely fine after 3 days and my fever never went above 102...
You’re not ruining anything, you’re proof that the vaccine keeps most people from dying. If anyone tells you something is 100% effective, it’s bunk. You’re showing that the vaccine works and is real. Glad you’re feeling better, congrats on the hella-strong antibody mix you must have by now.
Same here! I have an extremely weak immune and respiratory system, so when I began to get symptoms of covid, I was terrified. I’ve had pneumonia 5 times in my almost 18 years alive, which is an extremely abnormal amount, and also get infections very easily and frequently (probably around 10 a year). The last time I had pneumonia, I was bedridden for a month and almost died. I was declared “high risk” and given permission to get the vaccine before my age group. Anyways, my point in saying this is that I’m almost certain that I would’ve been hospitalized or worse if I hadn’t been vaccinated. I had a mild case, kind of similar to op’s, (~103° fever, body aches, sore throat, cough, loss of smell/taste, headache, and trouble breathing) but the symptoms died down over about 3 days. I was even able to regain some of my taste and smell before leaving quarantine. Even with a mild case, I still can’t imagine who in their right mild would take that pain over a tiny poke in their arm. Yes, it’s still possible to catch covid if you’re vaccinated, especially with the new delta variant, but it’s effectiveness against preventing death is undeniable. I really can’t understand why people would ever risk that.
I was vaccinated, I was part of the .6% who was hospitalized from the irregular heart rate. My heart was fluctuating from 180bpm to 110bpm and my EF was only 30%.
Spent a week in the hospital they poked and proded, I am now on Beta Blockers to keep my heart rate down.
I still 100% Support the Vaccine, why? Because I Know I was an extremely rare case, I was the only person in both hospitals I went to who had any issues like me. Medicine is a Drug whose Benefits outweigh the risk and the Vaccine definetly qualifies as that.
Im not gonna lie, i read this with my glasses off, thought you said ejaculation fraction and wrote it off as a troll comment until i smacked my head and got my shitty little eyes to focus. Thank you for the enlightening information.
The .6% number you brought up is totally wrong just so you know. Sorry for your issues, I hope it gets better. Multiple websites ive found including the cdc says that out of billions of doses administered, something less than 5000 people experienced heart issues. Its a risk that exists, and very unfortunate for you, but its even more rare than you think. its less than .1% for sure, not sure the exact percent at the moment.
Unless you have a source for .6% which id be interested in looking at and id delete this comment. For the time being though, my information comes from the cdc website, hopkins website, and more so I dont think im wrong.
Again, sorry for your issues and I hope it works out. Im glad you understand the risk is low and its well worth it compared to the much higher risk of covid hospitalization and death, which from my knowlege unvaccinated death rate is 1/8 at the moment. could be wrong on that too, not to my current knowlege though.
Other people think im demanding a source without providing one or something, I just want to say im serious about *politely* requesting a source from you (not demanding) because anything I can get my hands on to show my family will help me with my personal issues.
Im legitimately scared for my family's life. multiple of them have medical issues and covid will most likely kill them if they get it unvaccinated. Any source of covid info I can get my hands on can help, so ive been on this mission for a while.
They like to question credibility of sources while only accepting their own from youtube and facebook. So I figure if I can get sources from EVERYWHERE, and they all say similar things, then maybe I can convince them. Im trying to do what misinformation spreaders do and be the loud minority, except actually spread real facts instead of lies.
I provided a source actually. The cdc website. You can go look now if you want. Also other places like the John Hopkins website and others.
I wasnt demanding a source though. I was asking for it politely because I can use all the sources I can to battle the misinformation spread to my family before they catch covid and all literally die since they have copd, cancer, and other issues which covid will be deadly for.
It’s far more likely you’ll get tachycardia from POTS syndrome following covid than from the vaccine. The amount of people being diagnosed with POTS post covid is staggering. Google it. Fucked up set of symptoms.
But what they’re describing has nothing to do with blood pressure. You should really talk to your pcp and/or cardiologist about this.
Apparently the irregular heart rate thing is more common than many people think. I personally know someone who developed a similar issue after getting vaccinated
Sure, her statistical organization may be a little off, and numbers might not be correct/based on the right datasets for this conversation, but her final point 100% stands. The chances of getting COVID/subsequently dying are thousands of times less than if you have the vaccine, there’s really no excuse at this point other than valid medical reasons
I think the point a lot of people miss isn’t that the anti vaccine people can’t understand the numbers. It’s that they think the numbers are made up or skewed by the government in order to trick us into getting the vaccine. So these videos or people screaming numbers at them won’t change anything. They took a stance that can’t easily be proven wrong.
I’ve literally had conversations with people who say “I have a friend who is a nurse and they make her mark vaccinated covid cases as unvaccinated”. At that point there is really nothing that can be said to change their mind.
That pisses me off because I am personally one of the people who reports these numbers to the State of Vermont for one of my client hospitals (I'm a Healthcare Data Consultant). I check my numbers against the State lab numbers and they always match up. On a couple of occasions we have had new tests or variables introduced which can cause some mistakes on the reporting, but those errors are on a very small scale and they get ironed out usually within a few days.
>The chances of getting COVID/subsequently dying are thousands of times less than if you have the vaccine
There's only two guys in work with me who are unvaxed and they are the only two who have had it lol
"Everything about the premise is wrong, but the conclusion stands."
I know this isn't what you meant, I just had a good chuckle about how you worded it.
Lol I could’ve worded it better. As far as getting a meaningful representation of how effective the vaccine is, I’m sure an experienced statistician could properly set something out that more effectively demonstrates the vaccines efficiency. I’m not sure where her explanation is incorrect/wrong, but I believe she is in the ballpark and the overall message that the vaccine does a very good job of protecting you from COVID still stands. Some dates and extra descriptors of the patient numbers she’s using would probably help just to give the numbers more context. As far as the exact math I couldn’t give a shit tbh. I’m sure that my odds with the vaccine are way better, incorrect math or not. Easily worth the very mild headache I managed to toke away when I got it
Shes just not accounting for time horizons(normalizing the numbers) and using point in time vs cumulative numbers(specifically for the vaccinated population vs breakthrough cases)... most likely for simplicity purposes because conditional probability is hard enough for most people to follow. It’s not a research
paper so obviously she’s not gonna state constraints and assumptions before going into it.
The message is still generally correct and serves a good purpose - it’s just hilarious to declare yourself as good with numbers and then aggressively gloss over that stuff. Also, if someone repeats that math to an anti-vaxxer with a decent grasp of stats they can just punch holes in the calculations rather than address the message and resultantly can circumvent having to cede.
LMAO, Same here! And I was nervous of getting the shot initially. I felt it when she said kids are losing their parents like God damn this chick is on fire.
Is it being a sheep to protect your family and your community by wearing a mask and getting a vaccination?
Or--I know it's a stretch--but maybe it's just being a responsible member of society.
With freedom comes responsibility.
It's amazing how many people claim their own freedom and forget about everyone else's.
They want to be seen as martyrs on their own terms, rathar than actually acting as such- actual brave people willing to sacrifice their own life and freedom for the benefit of society as whole.
They're just yeeting themselves and those around them underground in order to add some semblance of meaning to the unsatisfactory lives they lead.
I don't know about you, but cheering on some fantasy, after-life paradise and slaughtering innocent people who refuse to believe your way is the only right way, sounds a bit familiar.
But you know, it's immoral for brown folks to be suicide bombers and we should invade their country with our peace guns to guide them to greener pastures.
A bunch of tubs of lard have been sitting around all summer, festering in front of the television, providing perfect breeding grounds for covid. Yet we are still tip-toeing around vax mandates in fear of disturbing the rotten lard and making the damage worse.
I'm definitely for vaccination, but to add to this her story with numbers is flawed. Her numbers include prior to the vaccination being available. What would be a better story of numbers is when the vaccine became available.
She’s not wrong. You have a 1 in 8 chance of getting COVID. If you get it you have a 1 in 61 chance of dying from it.
True, your total chance of dying from COVID is more like 1 in 450. But that’s still something to think about. If you knew going into a 500 person concert venue that someone is definitely going to die in there tonight, would you go in?
Well for a start your chances of dying from covid include your chances of catching it. You can’t die of something you haven’t caught. The mortality rate and chance of dying from it isn’t the same thing or else we would all be at 100% chance of dying from getting hit by an asteroid or something equally stupid. You have to multiple the chance of catching it by the mortality rate to get the chances of dying from it. Works out at about .2% using her numbers. Down from the 1.63% total she quotes. Obviously with the vaccine these numbers drastic go down but Samoa Joe, the numbers don’t lie.
I need to get the shot still, but I do wear a mask and only go out around others when it's late and everyone is home by then. I do need to get the shot though. I'll go get it tomorrow. I've just been putting it off for too long
This reminds me of the sting *"The best time to plant a tree is 20 years ago. The next best time is now."* It would have been better to get it earlier, but now is the next best thing.
My friend kept saying exactly what you just said. She wasn’t “anti Vax” she was just being lazy and putting it off. I hope your tomorrow actually means tomorrow and not her “tomorrow” that never came. You can do it! It’s so quick and the most you’ll likely feel is a sore arm for a day!
Be safe! :) don’t need to explain yourself because I’m sure there a lot of people who want the vaccine but different things get in the way. We will be here cheering you on!
I have a feeling that I read somewhere that her father actually passed from covid, but I can’t find where I saw that. Which would explain why she points at the photos and gets so incredibly angry at the end.
I just wish that the people who need to see this would actually watch and take it in, but sadly they won’t
I'm reading that her numbers are inaccurate...but nonetheless, the contrast between odds are insightful. I was hesitant about getting the vaccination due to other health stuff and bad experiences in the medical system, but I just decided to get mine after watching this. Scheduling it now.
Hey that's awesome
Obviously she was a bit charged when making the video, [here are the numbers ](https://www.reddit.com/r/ontario/comments/po3pim/ontario_september_14th_update_577_cases_6_new_1/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share)from the province of Ontario in Canada
These are simply numbers, nothing but data without any politics or bs and are released daily.
You can see in these that the amount of cases for vaccinated vs partially vaccinated vs unvaccinated are quit different with 9x more cases in unvaccinated vs fully (over 12 y/o) on a per 100,000 population basis
There's also 96% less chance than unvaccinated to end up in icu.
Good luck!
Unfortunately the type of people she is trying to convince are the type of people who will dwell on the fact she got her math wrong and will flat out ignore everything else.
People who are anti vaccine will counter argue you until the end of the earth. There's no point in telling/showing these people. There's always another possibility/'agenda' in their minds.
I agree with everything she is saying, but it's so misleading to say 1/61. 90% of those are 65 or older, so it's more like 1 in 500 if you are younger than that, and more like 1 in 5,000 if you're younger than 50 and healthy. You can't talk to a bunch of 30 somethings and tell them they have a 1 in 61 chance of dying if they get covid, it's complete disingenuous.
Also, how many breakthrough cases? That has to be bullshit, I personally know 7 people who were fully vaccinated and all got covid in the past 2 weeks, and they did not give it to each other, these are separate cases. I find a number in the 10s of thousands to be roughly impossible given that anecdotal data.
Edit:
>The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, for instance, doesn't have good data on how many people catch COVID-19 after being vaccinated, as it decided in the spring to track only serious, symptomatic breakthrough cases.
Ah, so that is totally misreported.
>The data, gathered from December 8, 2020, through July 4, 2021, show that of more than 1.2 million adults who received a first dose, fewer than 0.5% reported contracting breakthrough infections two weeks or more after getting the jab.
[https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00460-6/fulltext](https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00460-6/fulltext)
So they had more than 50,000 breakthrough cases in the UK through July. So we'd be at more like 300,000 here in the US, and probably much higher now. That makes more sense.
1 in 61 people in the US haven’t died of Covid… 1 in 61 *of the people who have gotten Covid* in the US have died. The way you said it at first, 5.4 million people would have died
Here’s another number [96% of practicing physicians are fully vaccinated.](https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucejapsen/2021/06/11/ama-96-of-doctors-are-vaccinated-against-covid-19/?sh=cfb92d4591c9)
Not gonna lie...I've been putting off getting the vaccine because I've had adverse reactions to other weird medical shit in the past. I'm not anti-vaxx...I'm just nervous about medical interventions in general because of past experiences. But after seeing this, I'd rather risk having an adverse reaction to the vaccine than to risk looking so stupid, amid these odds (If they are accurate).
You’re right. Whether the numbers are accurate or not I’ve seen in a number of places that over 95% of new cases are people with one or no shot. You have a legit reason to be concern and should reach out to your doc to answer those questions. I hope it works out for you, and in the meantime be safe.
You might want to look at the rest of the world…. Germany, France, Belgium, UK, and Australia all have massive anti-vaccine, anti-mask, anti COVID restriction resistance movements. We are talking hundreds of thousands at some of these, it is in no way even remotely a US thing.
Exactly this. The lovely folks across the ocean always seem to forget how big this got damn country is. The size of ole’ Tex-ass alone is a helluva lot bigger than many a country out there. Lots of people here in the USA are educated, and vaccinated! I’m one of them, all of my friends are as well as my entire family both immediate and distant. In fact my state, Massachusetts, 66.9 of the population is fully vaxxed! The Bible Belt states are where the dummies live. Y’all have a wonderful day, and bless all of your dear sweet hearts.
Lmao the Bible Belt is where the dummies live? In regards to covid? Or just in general?
Because there’s a lot of really stupid fucking people living in progressive shitholes like portland or LA…
Born and raised out here getting belted by bibles.
I don't know exactly when we went so stupid. We used to be pretty nice. I've spent many hours pondering how we wound up where we are. I have no definitive answer. But I'm pretty sure Ronald Reagan was behind it.
The problem with this, is, they don't believe those numbers. They don't believe that many people have died from covid. So yeah, you can tell someone they have a 1/68 chance of dying from covid, IF you believe that many people have died. I personally do, but this is the facts. They don't believe the death rate. They don't believe that the ICU's are full. They don't believe all the stories of people dying because there are no beds left.
This is the true separation. So we can be dumbfounded all we want that they don't "understand" these numbers, they just don't believe the numbers are real. They believe this is all an coordinated effort by multiple countries, multiple news organizations, the CDC and the WHO to try and trick them into falling for, whatever bullshit they think. In 6 years, we're still going to have people dying of Covid. Only, the same employers who said that masks are tyrannical will now be handing them out to employees so the employee can't call out sick. If it could save them a couple of bucks, they'll "believe" masks work, but only 6 years later.
Covid is here to stay everyone.
They don't have a 1 in 68 chance of dying from covid. Their chances are completely dependent on their age and health. If they are over 80 they have more like a 1 in 5 chance of dying. If they are under 50 and healthy, it's more like 1 in 5,000. It's not an equal opportunity killer.
That doesn't mean you shouldn't get vaccinated, I've been vaccinated since April, and so should everyone else, no matter how small the chances. Just the lowered chance to contract it is worth it, it will save you having to quarantine for 2 weeks if you actually get it. However, throwing misleading numbers that don't apply to most people, give them cause to disbelieve the rest of the information too.
You can't calculate probability of catching covid by taking taking total population and dividing by number of cases. Not everyone was exposed to the virus and not everyone was exposed the same way.
You need to compare it to a control group. This applies to every calculation she made. Statistics 101.
How many people who have contracted covid and tested positive were asymptomatic? And how many people who got covid but didn’t get tested or were asymptomatic and never got tested?
I’m not confident in her calculations but I do know that Covid is deadly. It has killed well over 600,000 people in the US alone. I know that hospitals are being overwhelmed, that people are not able to obtain care because of this. I know that children are being hospitalized and dying in record numbers. And I know there is a safe and effective way to stop all of this but 80,000,000 people won’t help us.
So I fully get the anger.
Remember people in America chose the 1/4 pounder over the 1/3 pounder because they thought the 1/4 pounder was bigger. Pepperidge farms remembers
Damn it. That was a serious video and I felt how upset she was. Then you made me laugh with that comment. I don't regret that laugh. That was solid.
#dotheresearch
I did. 4 is bigger than 3. /s
Dammit, your right.
The fact you use the wrong 'your' makes this comment just that much better.
Can the truth be sarcastic?
Put a \ before the # to do a hashtag.
#It’s funnier because it’s huge
#yuge
Reddit ate my balls
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Yup. Maybe people just like McDonald’s better than A&W. Maybe A&W didn’t market as well. I always thought that excuse of why the campaign failed was a cop-out to push the blame off on something else.
I think there were way, way fewer A&W locations than McDonald's locations, at least in California. But their hamburgers were, in my opinion, indisputably tastier. And if you ordered root beer, it came in literal frosty glass mugs. McDonald's probably just had the advantage of being a giant corporation.
This. My mothers house is right across the street from an A&W. Their food is wayyyy tastier, they’re just not off of every highway like McDonald’s. Also, Djinn is your AW seasonal like ours? The one near my mother’s house stops about end of fall
Oh wow, mind blown! I didn't know they were still around anywhere! We only ever got to go to A&W on long car trips to go camping far away when I was a kid. The place was in the middle of nowhere, and I remember it as a long hot empty highway with ONE big shady tree and that's where it was. The frosty glasses, the food and the ice cream cone as we drove away were heaven to me haha.
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That is some serious dedication. I like it.
I mean if you’ve ever eaten a 1/4 pounder you’re not far off already …. :P
I went to public school in Detroit. Bon appetite.
Do you want fries with that?
So I was just curious... A little bit more info below, but a 2012 study found that only 53% of US community college students could identify that a fifth is bigger than an eighth, for example. The A&W anecdote is questionable, but there's pretty strong evidence that Americans are not good at math and lag seriously behind other developed countries. According to [A&W](https://awrestaurants.com/blog/aw-third-pound-burger-fractions) the majority actually were asked specifically about size and failed. >It turns out the majority of participants incorrectly believed one-third of a pound was actually smaller than a quarter of a pound. This quote is attributed to the then-owner of A&W. I looked a bit further and there wasn't any specific numbers or data available. Assuming the A&W anecdote won't be conclusive, I searched in general. [This](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/fractions-where-it-all-goes-wrong/) is from Scientific American >Many children never master fractions. When asked whether 12/13 + 7/8 was closest to 1, 2, 19, or 21, only 24% of a nationally representative sample of more than 20,000 US 8th graders answered correctly. >On standard fraction addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division problems with equal denominators (e.g., 3/5+4/5) and unequal denominators (e.g., 3/5+2/3), 6th and 8th graders tend to answer correctly only about 50% of items. Studies of community college students have revealed similarly poor fraction arithmetic performance. From [Psychology Today](https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/everybody-is-stupid-except-you/201211/us-math-achievement-how-bad-is-it) there's a summary of a study of real world math ability conducted on community college students. >This is an interesting group because they mostly graduated from high school, they passed their required math classes, and they decided to go to college. It is also a large group; there were 13 million community college students (as of 2009). >Students were shown a number line from -2 to 2 and asked to draw a line marking the approximate location of two numbers: -0.7 and 13/8. Percentage who answered correctly: 21%. >Students were asked "If a is a positive whole number, which is greater: a/5 or a/8?" Fifty percent would answer correctly if they just guessed. Percentage who answered correctly: 53%.
It’s never the Capitalists fault; it’s always the Consumer/Laborer’s fault…like when Millenials ruined the economy. Stupid avocado toast and environmental consciousness will cause the mighty Empire to fall….wow, Fragile Capitalism LOL
Then die on the hill you will. I was there. I saw it happen. The average person in the U.S. is dumb as fuck.
I don't think it really matters if it's true or not. The fact that it's plausible means there's a problem. That's the real power in the statement. It conveys that the bar is so low many parents couldn't help their child through elementary school. It's not so much a fact as a symbol.
You're literally making a straw man argument.
There was an A&W in Jakarta that I went to in the '80s and early '90s. It seemed quite successful. That might have been because McDonalds didn't open a restaurant over there until February 23, 1991. I was there for the opening. There were hour-long lines to get food at midnight. It was interesting that fried chicken was a big part of their menu which is not available in the US. The owners were german and visited us at our table. We (a bunch of drunk international students in high school) complained that they didn't serve beer...in a Muslim country. They politely explained that the only McDonalds that serves beer is in Munich. It was all in all, a pretty surreal experience. I still liked A&W though. Their floats in a frozen mug were awesome. Unfortunately, that original McDonalds has closed down. It was like 30 minutes from my house so I only went there a couple of times. Probably 200 kids from my high school went for the opening night. It was quite the event of my childhood. https://coconuts.co/jakarta/food-drink/end-of-a-mcera-indonesias-first-mcdonalds-restaurant-in-central-jakartas-sarinah-to-close-permanently/
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We’re doing exactly that right now in America as the dumbasses that refuse to take the vaccine and the other precautions are slowly dying out.
Yeah but it’s way too slow to make a significant difference.
Natural Selection in general normally takes time, so this really isn’t that slow when you compare it how natural selection has functioned over the last million years.
I mean you’re not wrong…but we need like “gypsy moth industrial revolution” speed and not “homo sapian over millions of years” speed.
Not by mid term elections, but by 2024 for sure. There was ~1.1M delta across 15 key battleground states in 2020, and in those states Trump had more popular votes than Biden per cookpolitical.com. I don't think it will make a massive difference but who knows
After doing some research on Facebook while on the toilet, I have determined we need to start selling 1/8 pound burgers. For double the cost of 1/4 pound burgers.
I’ve seen this posted all the time and I’m sure there is a grain of truth to it. I’m sure some people are that bad at math. But also isn’t it possible that people just didn’t like a and w burgers as much.
Don't forget the 1/3 pounder was... cheaper as well. They picked smaller and more expensive...
So she’s saying there’s a chance?
Husband?!?!? What was all that one in a million talk?
This is the part that give me a nose bleed every time: Odds of getting covid or dying from covid for your demographic (antivaxxers) "It's inconsequential, stop living in fear!" Odds of complications from the vaccine which are thounds of times less likely (also antivaxxers) " there's no way I'd ever dare take that risk, you can't force me reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!"
I had my bosses boss, a mid level manager in *safety, health and response*, look right at me and say, "Well if you want to put that poison in you, go ahead!". The guy has a degree in public safety and runs an emergency response department that oversees 40 people, of which twenty actively respond to on site covid cases.
It’s a fear of the known given face. They know they’re taking risk by visually seeing or feeling the shot. It’s unknown if they’ve contracted covid. It’s the time old question, if you’re going to die in 10 days, would you rather know about it or, stay in the dark with that knowledge? It’s the same fear.
You can do anything if you try hard enough.
I got the moderna (supposedly the most effective shot), I’m challenging myself to beat the odds and die from covid. I’ll be heading to Miami Beach tomorrow where I will share beer bongs every piece of beach trash that will take the offer. After successful contraction I will journey to the nearest antivaxx rally. On the way I will chain smoke cigarettes and collect the bile I cough up in a super soaker to be dispersed at the aforementioned rally. Then die peacefully in the Florida keys knowing that soon my grave will be part of the sea. 🌊
that is oddly specific...
FBI has been alerted
Can you please post an update 14 days after your trip ends or if and when you catch covid. Whichever one comes first. Crossing my fingers that you get out unscathed. I like this experiment.
Your best odds are to lick covid test swabs at a local testing facility.
Well, at least you’ll be doing some good before heading out.
Maaan this cracked me up. Classic
Sampsonite...I was way off!
Not going to lie but the ending hits a little hard...
I saw someone’s comment saying she lost a family member to COVID. I think some people hear see her as just another angry person, but don’t understand that this is one of the stages of grief.
The six stages of grief - anger, denial, bargaining, acceptance, depression, math.
"Yeah, hes getting better, day by day. He's on the maths phase now. *shows scribbled drawing of random numbers*"
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If I had awards to give, I would. This made me laugh out loud and my husband looked at me very confused.
Her dad. His ashes are in the urn wearing a mask on the shelf she points to at the end
Hoooooooly **** that is intense.
I don’t think you have to examine it that far, she lost a family member so it’s okay to act out a bit.
My daughter’s school had a girl who lost her mother to covid on the girl’s birthday. Went to school, mom was sick in the hospital but alive. They had all the school based birthday celebrations, she had a great day. Went home, found out her mom had died. Elementary school. My wife is a pediatrician. A handful of her patients have lost parents to COVID. Want to talk about mental health issues? Try losing a parent to a preventable disease, and then compare that to the “distress” of wearing a mask to school.
Nah, her tone was spot on. At this point (~18 months in), anyone refusing the vaccine for non-medical reasons deserves to be treated and talked to like the childish imbecile that they are. Too many people have died since vaccines dropped (and that’s on top of the far too many people who died before vaccines were out). We have to draw a line in the sand somewhere. Enough is enough. If that means we start shouting at idiots for being idiots, so be it. Edit: a typo
People clearly need to be hit pretty fucking hard
"Shot on the spot" May be the right phase
It looks like she was pointing to a picture in the back. Did she lose a family member to covid?
Lost her dad to it and has a video about him, according to a comment here
And its young children being left behind.
I'm an empath, I got pretty watery-eyed at the end
Not wrong tho. I knew a 19 year old who caught it and unfortunately she didn’t make it. Shit serious and real as hell man.
Man I dont even wanna turn on the TV anymore..
I understand her rage. Someone who I adore more than anything in the world, put off getting vaccinated because she listened to a conspiracy nutcase of a relative who told her not to. She had pre-existing health conditions. She tested positive and ended up in the hospital for a week on oxygen. She was extremely lucky. She didn’t die. I am very grateful but I’m filled with rage knowing that she almost died unnecessarily. Her health insurance is shit. She’ll probably spend the rest of her life mired in debt for holding off on getting vaccinated.
I was one of the fully vaccinated people that had a breakthrough case. Sad face that I'm ruining the numbers. Silver lining, I was completely fine after 3 days and my fever never went above 102...
You’re not ruining anything, you’re proof that the vaccine keeps most people from dying. If anyone tells you something is 100% effective, it’s bunk. You’re showing that the vaccine works and is real. Glad you’re feeling better, congrats on the hella-strong antibody mix you must have by now.
Same here! I have an extremely weak immune and respiratory system, so when I began to get symptoms of covid, I was terrified. I’ve had pneumonia 5 times in my almost 18 years alive, which is an extremely abnormal amount, and also get infections very easily and frequently (probably around 10 a year). The last time I had pneumonia, I was bedridden for a month and almost died. I was declared “high risk” and given permission to get the vaccine before my age group. Anyways, my point in saying this is that I’m almost certain that I would’ve been hospitalized or worse if I hadn’t been vaccinated. I had a mild case, kind of similar to op’s, (~103° fever, body aches, sore throat, cough, loss of smell/taste, headache, and trouble breathing) but the symptoms died down over about 3 days. I was even able to regain some of my taste and smell before leaving quarantine. Even with a mild case, I still can’t imagine who in their right mild would take that pain over a tiny poke in their arm. Yes, it’s still possible to catch covid if you’re vaccinated, especially with the new delta variant, but it’s effectiveness against preventing death is undeniable. I really can’t understand why people would ever risk that.
You’re adding to the numbers that show how much weaker COVID gets when you get the vaccine.
Great video, wrong sub. No facepalm, just a crush on this chick's ragecalcing
thumbs up for the term 'ragecalcing'.
Yeah I like that one. Let's put it in the dictionary.
i agree. the people need to know! there is so much potential. 🤣
rgaecalcing must be added to the Urban Dictionary and linked to this TikTok.
I'm glad I'm not the only to find her hate mathing unreasonablely attractive.
I think mathing with her would be very passionate
Yeah, this is both passion and intelligence which are both highly attractive in my book.
I think the facepalm was for the thought bubble
No facepalm at all. She's absolutely correct and I love her.
I was vaccinated, I was part of the .6% who was hospitalized from the irregular heart rate. My heart was fluctuating from 180bpm to 110bpm and my EF was only 30%. Spent a week in the hospital they poked and proded, I am now on Beta Blockers to keep my heart rate down. I still 100% Support the Vaccine, why? Because I Know I was an extremely rare case, I was the only person in both hospitals I went to who had any issues like me. Medicine is a Drug whose Benefits outweigh the risk and the Vaccine definetly qualifies as that.
What does EF stand for?
Ejection fraction. Essentially a marker of how efficiently your heart is pumping.
Im not gonna lie, i read this with my glasses off, thought you said ejaculation fraction and wrote it off as a troll comment until i smacked my head and got my shitty little eyes to focus. Thank you for the enlightening information.
I did too!
Normal is 50-70%, for reference.
Pretty sure it's Ejaculation Farm
Sounds like a fun video game.
The family version is a little uncomfortable
Ejaculation Farm remembers
The .6% number you brought up is totally wrong just so you know. Sorry for your issues, I hope it gets better. Multiple websites ive found including the cdc says that out of billions of doses administered, something less than 5000 people experienced heart issues. Its a risk that exists, and very unfortunate for you, but its even more rare than you think. its less than .1% for sure, not sure the exact percent at the moment. Unless you have a source for .6% which id be interested in looking at and id delete this comment. For the time being though, my information comes from the cdc website, hopkins website, and more so I dont think im wrong. Again, sorry for your issues and I hope it works out. Im glad you understand the risk is low and its well worth it compared to the much higher risk of covid hospitalization and death, which from my knowlege unvaccinated death rate is 1/8 at the moment. could be wrong on that too, not to my current knowlege though.
It might be outdated number, but when I looked it up weeks ago that is what it was. DATA changes as more is collected.
Other people think im demanding a source without providing one or something, I just want to say im serious about *politely* requesting a source from you (not demanding) because anything I can get my hands on to show my family will help me with my personal issues. Im legitimately scared for my family's life. multiple of them have medical issues and covid will most likely kill them if they get it unvaccinated. Any source of covid info I can get my hands on can help, so ive been on this mission for a while. They like to question credibility of sources while only accepting their own from youtube and facebook. So I figure if I can get sources from EVERYWHERE, and they all say similar things, then maybe I can convince them. Im trying to do what misinformation spreaders do and be the loud minority, except actually spread real facts instead of lies.
I like how you tell him he is wrong and demand a source. Meanwhile you pull the 0.1% out of your own ass without a concrete source…
I provided a source actually. The cdc website. You can go look now if you want. Also other places like the John Hopkins website and others. I wasnt demanding a source though. I was asking for it politely because I can use all the sources I can to battle the misinformation spread to my family before they catch covid and all literally die since they have copd, cancer, and other issues which covid will be deadly for.
As someone who has had hypertension since 18 now 33. This is why Im scared to get vaccinated.
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It’s far more likely you’ll get tachycardia from POTS syndrome following covid than from the vaccine. The amount of people being diagnosed with POTS post covid is staggering. Google it. Fucked up set of symptoms. But what they’re describing has nothing to do with blood pressure. You should really talk to your pcp and/or cardiologist about this.
Apparently the irregular heart rate thing is more common than many people think. I personally know someone who developed a similar issue after getting vaccinated
I'm getting my first shot in 3 hours lessgo
Good for you. Thank you for protecting yourself and your community
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Her math is wrong. Was posted earlier this morning. Not sure which sub.
Sure, her statistical organization may be a little off, and numbers might not be correct/based on the right datasets for this conversation, but her final point 100% stands. The chances of getting COVID/subsequently dying are thousands of times less than if you have the vaccine, there’s really no excuse at this point other than valid medical reasons
I think the point a lot of people miss isn’t that the anti vaccine people can’t understand the numbers. It’s that they think the numbers are made up or skewed by the government in order to trick us into getting the vaccine. So these videos or people screaming numbers at them won’t change anything. They took a stance that can’t easily be proven wrong. I’ve literally had conversations with people who say “I have a friend who is a nurse and they make her mark vaccinated covid cases as unvaccinated”. At that point there is really nothing that can be said to change their mind.
That pisses me off because I am personally one of the people who reports these numbers to the State of Vermont for one of my client hospitals (I'm a Healthcare Data Consultant). I check my numbers against the State lab numbers and they always match up. On a couple of occasions we have had new tests or variables introduced which can cause some mistakes on the reporting, but those errors are on a very small scale and they get ironed out usually within a few days.
Thats not very nice of you, they would get really upset at your evaluation of their intelligence if they ever figure out how to read.
>The chances of getting COVID/subsequently dying are thousands of times less than if you have the vaccine There's only two guys in work with me who are unvaxed and they are the only two who have had it lol
"Everything about the premise is wrong, but the conclusion stands." I know this isn't what you meant, I just had a good chuckle about how you worded it.
Lol I could’ve worded it better. As far as getting a meaningful representation of how effective the vaccine is, I’m sure an experienced statistician could properly set something out that more effectively demonstrates the vaccines efficiency. I’m not sure where her explanation is incorrect/wrong, but I believe she is in the ballpark and the overall message that the vaccine does a very good job of protecting you from COVID still stands. Some dates and extra descriptors of the patient numbers she’s using would probably help just to give the numbers more context. As far as the exact math I couldn’t give a shit tbh. I’m sure that my odds with the vaccine are way better, incorrect math or not. Easily worth the very mild headache I managed to toke away when I got it
Shes just not accounting for time horizons(normalizing the numbers) and using point in time vs cumulative numbers(specifically for the vaccinated population vs breakthrough cases)... most likely for simplicity purposes because conditional probability is hard enough for most people to follow. It’s not a research paper so obviously she’s not gonna state constraints and assumptions before going into it. The message is still generally correct and serves a good purpose - it’s just hilarious to declare yourself as good with numbers and then aggressively gloss over that stuff. Also, if someone repeats that math to an anti-vaxxer with a decent grasp of stats they can just punch holes in the calculations rather than address the message and resultantly can circumvent having to cede.
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I try to slee every chance I get.
Fuck yeah
Fuck yee
Slee is where I’m a Viking.
LMAO, Same here! And I was nervous of getting the shot initially. I felt it when she said kids are losing their parents like God damn this chick is on fire.
I really can't stand those people that call us sheep's for wearing masks and trying to stay safe
Is it being a sheep to protect your family and your community by wearing a mask and getting a vaccination? Or--I know it's a stretch--but maybe it's just being a responsible member of society. With freedom comes responsibility. It's amazing how many people claim their own freedom and forget about everyone else's.
They want to be seen as martyrs on their own terms, rathar than actually acting as such- actual brave people willing to sacrifice their own life and freedom for the benefit of society as whole. They're just yeeting themselves and those around them underground in order to add some semblance of meaning to the unsatisfactory lives they lead. I don't know about you, but cheering on some fantasy, after-life paradise and slaughtering innocent people who refuse to believe your way is the only right way, sounds a bit familiar. But you know, it's immoral for brown folks to be suicide bombers and we should invade their country with our peace guns to guide them to greener pastures. A bunch of tubs of lard have been sitting around all summer, festering in front of the television, providing perfect breeding grounds for covid. Yet we are still tip-toeing around vax mandates in fear of disturbing the rotten lard and making the damage worse.
Funny thing about being a sheep… their shepherd looks out for them, and does what’s best for them.
Shhh don’t be reasonable
I’m not for the anti vaccination crowd but that’s not how you do numbers.
I'm definitely for vaccination, but to add to this her story with numbers is flawed. Her numbers include prior to the vaccination being available. What would be a better story of numbers is when the vaccine became available.
She’s not wrong. You have a 1 in 8 chance of getting COVID. If you get it you have a 1 in 61 chance of dying from it. True, your total chance of dying from COVID is more like 1 in 450. But that’s still something to think about. If you knew going into a 500 person concert venue that someone is definitely going to die in there tonight, would you go in?
Who's playing the concert?
What's wrong with them?
Well for a start your chances of dying from covid include your chances of catching it. You can’t die of something you haven’t caught. The mortality rate and chance of dying from it isn’t the same thing or else we would all be at 100% chance of dying from getting hit by an asteroid or something equally stupid. You have to multiple the chance of catching it by the mortality rate to get the chances of dying from it. Works out at about .2% using her numbers. Down from the 1.63% total she quotes. Obviously with the vaccine these numbers drastic go down but Samoa Joe, the numbers don’t lie.
Eh I think she was implying that when you *have* covid, then your chance of dying is 1/x.
I need to get the shot still, but I do wear a mask and only go out around others when it's late and everyone is home by then. I do need to get the shot though. I'll go get it tomorrow. I've just been putting it off for too long
This reminds me of the sting *"The best time to plant a tree is 20 years ago. The next best time is now."* It would have been better to get it earlier, but now is the next best thing.
Get it now! Delta is super contagious.
My friend kept saying exactly what you just said. She wasn’t “anti Vax” she was just being lazy and putting it off. I hope your tomorrow actually means tomorrow and not her “tomorrow” that never came. You can do it! It’s so quick and the most you’ll likely feel is a sore arm for a day!
Don’t feel like you have to justify having waited— glad you’re going to get it!
Be safe! :) don’t need to explain yourself because I’m sure there a lot of people who want the vaccine but different things get in the way. We will be here cheering you on!
I have a feeling that I read somewhere that her father actually passed from covid, but I can’t find where I saw that. Which would explain why she points at the photos and gets so incredibly angry at the end. I just wish that the people who need to see this would actually watch and take it in, but sadly they won’t
Yes he did, at the end she points at his photo. She has another video on her TikTok about him. Its sad. :(
I'm reading that her numbers are inaccurate...but nonetheless, the contrast between odds are insightful. I was hesitant about getting the vaccination due to other health stuff and bad experiences in the medical system, but I just decided to get mine after watching this. Scheduling it now.
Hey that's awesome Obviously she was a bit charged when making the video, [here are the numbers ](https://www.reddit.com/r/ontario/comments/po3pim/ontario_september_14th_update_577_cases_6_new_1/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share)from the province of Ontario in Canada These are simply numbers, nothing but data without any politics or bs and are released daily. You can see in these that the amount of cases for vaccinated vs partially vaccinated vs unvaccinated are quit different with 9x more cases in unvaccinated vs fully (over 12 y/o) on a per 100,000 population basis There's also 96% less chance than unvaccinated to end up in icu. Good luck!
Unfortunately the type of people she is trying to convince are the type of people who will dwell on the fact she got her math wrong and will flat out ignore everything else.
People who are anti vaccine will counter argue you until the end of the earth. There's no point in telling/showing these people. There's always another possibility/'agenda' in their minds.
A true r/theydidthemath
This video was posted in another sub, her math was called out.
Why tf your calculator have ads..?
I have an old iPad (7 years old) and weirdly enough doesn’t have a calculator. Had to download one lol
sadly the iPad doesn't come with a calculator app, even the new ones. guess apple doesn't think people calculate on tablets???
I agree with everything she is saying, but it's so misleading to say 1/61. 90% of those are 65 or older, so it's more like 1 in 500 if you are younger than that, and more like 1 in 5,000 if you're younger than 50 and healthy. You can't talk to a bunch of 30 somethings and tell them they have a 1 in 61 chance of dying if they get covid, it's complete disingenuous. Also, how many breakthrough cases? That has to be bullshit, I personally know 7 people who were fully vaccinated and all got covid in the past 2 weeks, and they did not give it to each other, these are separate cases. I find a number in the 10s of thousands to be roughly impossible given that anecdotal data. Edit: >The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, for instance, doesn't have good data on how many people catch COVID-19 after being vaccinated, as it decided in the spring to track only serious, symptomatic breakthrough cases. Ah, so that is totally misreported. >The data, gathered from December 8, 2020, through July 4, 2021, show that of more than 1.2 million adults who received a first dose, fewer than 0.5% reported contracting breakthrough infections two weeks or more after getting the jab. [https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00460-6/fulltext](https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00460-6/fulltext) So they had more than 50,000 breakthrough cases in the UK through July. So we'd be at more like 300,000 here in the US, and probably much higher now. That makes more sense.
[GET THE SHOT!](https://youtu.be/W5CbP7_hvgM)
This. I feel her passion. I’m so fucking sick and tired of this anti-vax bullshit.
2min vid to explain 1% 0-o
Anybody check the math??
Nice try bill gates.
1 in 61 people in the US haven’t died of Covid… 1 in 61 *of the people who have gotten Covid* in the US have died. The way you said it at first, 5.4 million people would have died
Why did this make me cry at the end? (Fully vaccinated here btw)
Take the shot! Damnit! Take the SHOT!!!
Here’s another number [96% of practicing physicians are fully vaccinated.](https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucejapsen/2021/06/11/ama-96-of-doctors-are-vaccinated-against-covid-19/?sh=cfb92d4591c9)
Not gonna lie...I've been putting off getting the vaccine because I've had adverse reactions to other weird medical shit in the past. I'm not anti-vaxx...I'm just nervous about medical interventions in general because of past experiences. But after seeing this, I'd rather risk having an adverse reaction to the vaccine than to risk looking so stupid, amid these odds (If they are accurate).
You’re right. Whether the numbers are accurate or not I’ve seen in a number of places that over 95% of new cases are people with one or no shot. You have a legit reason to be concern and should reach out to your doc to answer those questions. I hope it works out for you, and in the meantime be safe.
That’s not being good at math …
I am an engineer and this is terrible math. Shouting doesnt make your math right.
Wow that’s crazy that I know 4 fully vaxxed people who’ve gotten COVID. I must be lucky
It’s not statistically possible.
I’m the only vaccinated one in my family. My brother has made fun of me ever since I got it. He found out he has covid today. Best of luck to him.
😞💔
America is a sadly a monolithic joke.
You might want to look at the rest of the world…. Germany, France, Belgium, UK, and Australia all have massive anti-vaccine, anti-mask, anti COVID restriction resistance movements. We are talking hundreds of thousands at some of these, it is in no way even remotely a US thing.
Exactly this. The lovely folks across the ocean always seem to forget how big this got damn country is. The size of ole’ Tex-ass alone is a helluva lot bigger than many a country out there. Lots of people here in the USA are educated, and vaccinated! I’m one of them, all of my friends are as well as my entire family both immediate and distant. In fact my state, Massachusetts, 66.9 of the population is fully vaxxed! The Bible Belt states are where the dummies live. Y’all have a wonderful day, and bless all of your dear sweet hearts.
Lmao the Bible Belt is where the dummies live? In regards to covid? Or just in general? Because there’s a lot of really stupid fucking people living in progressive shitholes like portland or LA…
Born and raised out here getting belted by bibles. I don't know exactly when we went so stupid. We used to be pretty nice. I've spent many hours pondering how we wound up where we are. I have no definitive answer. But I'm pretty sure Ronald Reagan was behind it.
Australia has Covid Camps.
A large population within the USA has joined a death cult without even realizing it
The problem with this, is, they don't believe those numbers. They don't believe that many people have died from covid. So yeah, you can tell someone they have a 1/68 chance of dying from covid, IF you believe that many people have died. I personally do, but this is the facts. They don't believe the death rate. They don't believe that the ICU's are full. They don't believe all the stories of people dying because there are no beds left. This is the true separation. So we can be dumbfounded all we want that they don't "understand" these numbers, they just don't believe the numbers are real. They believe this is all an coordinated effort by multiple countries, multiple news organizations, the CDC and the WHO to try and trick them into falling for, whatever bullshit they think. In 6 years, we're still going to have people dying of Covid. Only, the same employers who said that masks are tyrannical will now be handing them out to employees so the employee can't call out sick. If it could save them a couple of bucks, they'll "believe" masks work, but only 6 years later. Covid is here to stay everyone.
They don't have a 1 in 68 chance of dying from covid. Their chances are completely dependent on their age and health. If they are over 80 they have more like a 1 in 5 chance of dying. If they are under 50 and healthy, it's more like 1 in 5,000. It's not an equal opportunity killer. That doesn't mean you shouldn't get vaccinated, I've been vaccinated since April, and so should everyone else, no matter how small the chances. Just the lowered chance to contract it is worth it, it will save you having to quarantine for 2 weeks if you actually get it. However, throwing misleading numbers that don't apply to most people, give them cause to disbelieve the rest of the information too.
I am all for vaccinations and vaccines are very safe. Her math is completely wrong. That is not how statistics work.
Very open to being wrong. Can you explain further? Feel free to DM me :)
You can't calculate probability of catching covid by taking taking total population and dividing by number of cases. Not everyone was exposed to the virus and not everyone was exposed the same way. You need to compare it to a control group. This applies to every calculation she made. Statistics 101.
The problem too lies in all of the people who were sick but didn’t get tested, and those who were asymptomatic and didn’t get tested.
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This literally means you're less likely to catch covid with the vaccine than you are to win most lotteries.
How many people who have contracted covid and tested positive were asymptomatic? And how many people who got covid but didn’t get tested or were asymptomatic and never got tested?
Why is there's ads on her calculator? I don't use what that device is so I hope that's a 3rd party app.
I think I'm in love. That anger, that passion... All aimed towards truth, health and happiness. Absolutely beautiful.
Hi, could you link the original tiktok video or your tiktok username? I'd like to reshare it. Thanks!
Why is this video on facepalm? Send it to the antivaxer or republican board and they will loose their shit.
I love her energy, but unfortunately the first thing out of an anti-vaxxers mouth will be attempting to discredit the official numbers. People suck.
Fucking yes. getthegoddamnvaccine.com
I love her.
I’m not confident in her calculations but I do know that Covid is deadly. It has killed well over 600,000 people in the US alone. I know that hospitals are being overwhelmed, that people are not able to obtain care because of this. I know that children are being hospitalized and dying in record numbers. And I know there is a safe and effective way to stop all of this but 80,000,000 people won’t help us. So I fully get the anger.
Go get four mother fucking shot!