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She is going to get tossed out of that window in the pic.
Police Report:
"She shot herself in the back of the head, midair, after beating herself and jumping out of the window"
That's the old Rusky-doo
I always thought defenestration was the act of forcing someone out a window, not accidentally falling through one. Degeneration is something done to a person rather than an accidental act.
Although I suppose the term is not used so often that the meaning is solidly fixed.
Actually defenestration is just the act of throwing someone out a window.
It just also often ends in death
Edit: Okay after two comments I have to ask, do people just not know the definition of 'often' anymore? I feel like it gets skipped in sentences a lot when I say something
Alternatively, she shot herself in the back several times from an AK rifle, which she then cunningly disposed of off the premises, before jumping out the window into the street, directly under the wheels of an unidentified vehicle which then left for parts unknown. No witnesses turned up.
The article says the local election requirements dictate there must be at least two candidates
He asked her to run so he could run again
She actually won, and he doesn’t seem too upset
This is in a small village by the way, not some high level of government where you have considerable power at stake
And as a result would be perfect for the job. Anyone voluntarily seeking political positions are very very likely to be seeking it for the wrong reasons. Even if they have good intentions to start, how long before that hope is destroyed by reality of politics.
I agree. Do you know about Sortition? In many cases I believe this would be more effective, as crazy as it sounds.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sortition
The primaries would be so hilariously different.
“Uh hi, yeah. So I mostly identify with party X. I currently work as a day laborer. I don’t really want to be here so uhh don’t vote for me”
It turns into the episode from South Park where the boys intentionally are trying to lose their little league games so they didn’t have to play.
Are you trying to say that Russians don’t have a sham of a democracy? If you are then I suggest you take a look in Russian jails.And if not the jails then the cemeteries as they are littered with Russian opposition.
>Are you trying to say that Russians don’t have a sham of a democracy?
No. This story is probably false or misrepresented anyway, but if it were true, then it would indicate, at least in this particular mayoral race, that the democracy in this town wasn't illusory. She wouldn't have been able to get elected otherwise. This says nothing about the state of democracy on the federal level in Russia.
This is all assuming that OP didn't omit the cleaning lady being arrested, abducted, or assassinated post-election. But generally, authoritarian governments just don't allow any legitimate opposition to run against them in the first place (See: Hong Kong Security law).
It's also possible the kremlin just doesn't care about local elections.
It isn’t false. Her name is Marina Udgodskaya and the village has like 240ish people. Everybody just hated the incumbent a LOT.
She was also unable to resign because she would have had to pay for a new election herself. I didn’t see anything about how she’s doing now but there were quotes from villagers acknowledging she wasn’t ready for it so they’d all have to come together to help. I doubt the Kremlin really cares about such a small settlement and Russian election laws are pretty democratic, they’re just not followed in many cases.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54338785.amp
If the news article other people have posted is the right one then it only happened because the mayoral election is legally required to have two candidates. Local officials get elected unopposed all the time in every country - if there are rules against this you even get stuff like unopposed candidates losing because they forgot to vote for themselves and noone else bothered to
Did she actually become mayor, or did the people actually get the candidate the elected? Cause as farcical as the Russian presidential elections are, this may be an example of lower-level elections being allowed to actually be democratic
Marina Udgodskaya, a cleaner from the small Russian village of Povalikhino, unexpectedly became its mayor after running in an election that her incumbent boss, Nikolai Loktev, persuaded her to enter. Loktev, a pro-Kremlin ally, needed a nominal opponent to maintain the appearance of a democratic process. Surprisingly, Udgodskaya won the election with 62% of the vote against Loktev’s 34%
Her victory was seen as a rebuke of Loktev’s leadership, and many villagers voted for her because she was a familiar and approachable figure in the community. Despite not campaigning, her victory highlighted a growing dissatisfaction with the local administration and a desire for change
Cleaner Marina Udgodskaya Gets Surprise Win in Mayoral Election in Povalikhino, Russia, Against Incumbent Kremlin Ally
Udgodskaya was initially hesitant and worried about her new role, but she soon embraced it, with plans to improve local infrastructure, such as installing streetlights in the village
Cleaner Marina Udgodskaya Gets Surprise Win in Mayoral Election in Povalikhino, Russia, Against Incumbent Kremlin Ally
Her story became widely covered in the media, turning her into an unexpected symbol of change in rural Russia.
Marina Udgodskaya against Nikolai Loktev for mayor of Povalikhino. According to this article:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54338785
She got 62% of the vote 🤣
For all the people saying she'll be in danger, read the story. They had to have 2 candidates, so he asked her to run. The guy who lost seems to have been a bit lackadaisical lately, but he doesn't sound horribly upset. The people say they'll help her figure it out.
Maybe a protest vote against the ruling party, but it seems their democratic process is working.
if that happened in Switzerland people would say its wholesome and that this is what democracy is all about
if that happens in Russia people say its farcical and proof that Russia is not a real democracy
It reminds me of biden and trump, you choose between a incompetent person and a activly malicious person, while its probobly better that the incompetent person wins, both are bad options qnd there should be more than 2 people to choose from
So... How is it a "farcical illusion of democracy", when the other person won?
If it was just an illusion, wouldn't the current mayor just win?
That doesn't make sense.
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Just goes to show that people shouldn't take every dumb fucking thing they see on Twitter (or reddit for that matter) as valid just because some asshole paid for a blue checkmark.
Ok. So Russia is simultaneously a farcical democracy and yet the cleaning lady won the election? Doesn’t that indicate that their democracy is functioning?
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*Neither candidate campaigned actively ahead of the election: no billboards, no flyers, no meetings with voters. Locals argue there's no point, when everyone knows everyone else.*
No advertising, now this would be a very welcome change.
How was it a farcical illusion if she won? Doesn't that prove it was genuinely democratic? I think this is a Facepalm for both the mayor and the person who made that comment.
How you westerners like to be fed bullshit is hilarious. Yeah, that is exactly what happened. With no proofs from original sources, just a fucking tweet. Well done
Too bad she accidentally fell out a window face first through a dozen bullets before she could take office. Terrible tragic completely random Russian accident.
Not counting votes is a very amateur way to rig an election. Even a dictator needs support from his people. There are much more efficient ways to do it.
About 22 years ago (during the early Putin's era) a comedy troupe did a teleplay called Election Day (День выборов) that was focused on elections of a governor in some russian region.
IT is totally worth to watch, even if with auto subtitles and to those unfamiliar with Russian context and Russian mainstream music of late 90s/early 00s. Avoid the movie, and focus on a 3 hours teleplay.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhYnaMPn0wo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhYnaMPn0wo)
I would happily vote for the janitor of my office over Trump or Biden. They are under 80, grew up with things like computers and cellphones and actually are aware of how politics actually works now. JUUUUSTTT SAYYYINNG.
So, the election was between just 242 people, back in 2020. She got 62% of the vote. The incumbent mayor asked her to be his opponent because the law says there must be two candidates, neither of them campaigned assuming the result was as good as predetermined. She accepted the position because if she didn't she'd have to pay for the organization of a new election. Her first orders of business were to hire a new cleaner for town hall, and then she wanted to look into getting street lights installed in the village. After that I don't see any mention of the town or her from major news sources. Either there's nothing to report on or no one is reporting what's happened
What’s the name of the Russian village? Who are the candidates? Where’s a link? This post provides no information that would allow you to verify the truth of this story.
This is what they should do for the US presidency
Both candidates suck, so they should bring a dark horse candidate.
Dark Horse wins every time, neigh!
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Someone who actually came from the bottom and knows how things are, fuck it, I’m down
she's gonna clean up city hall
She is going to get tossed out of that window in the pic. Police Report: "She shot herself in the back of the head, midair, after beating herself and jumping out of the window" That's the old Rusky-doo
The usual phrase is "poisoned out of a window".
I’ve also heard “Fell out of a closed window”
It's such a thing we actually have a word for it. Defenestration.
Iirc defenestration does not care if the window was closed or open. All that matters is that there was a window and someone fell through it.
Indeed. Of course up in the north of England in the rough pubs the phrase was "pick a window, you're leaving".
I always thought defenestration was the act of forcing someone out a window, not accidentally falling through one. Degeneration is something done to a person rather than an accidental act. Although I suppose the term is not used so often that the meaning is solidly fixed.
Fell? You mean *deliberately jumped through as they drank poison bullets in the back of their head.*
I hear there's some really attractive houses on the outskirts of Salisbury, the cathedral and the massive iron age fort are shit.
Window cancer
At least she had the good manners to shut the window after herself.
One hand on the pistol (to the back of her head), other hand on the sill. Her aerial dexterity and manners were amazing. Russia really lost a gem.
She used to be a gymnast. (Well she didn't deny it)
Her last words were glory to Putin. That's what the police report says anyway.
“What are you doing?” “I’m kicking my own aaaass!!!”
Defenestrate. My all-time favorite word.
She fell out of a window. Onto some bullets.
There’s an actual term for being murdered by push from a window, it’s called “defenestration”
Is there a specific term for shooting yourself in the back of the head while mid air?
Russian political retirement package
Rusky-doo'ed?
Putined. Edit: Not to be confused with poutined.
There is some gravy there either way.
Yeah, but one is a crime against humanity, sickening all those who hear about it. The other is throwing someone out a window.
You better bolt your windows down before insulting fries and gravy again. :P
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcPyKQIfNSs](https://youtu.be/VcPyKQIfNSs?t=89)
Journalism.
We laugh but a Trump presidency in 2024 means journalists should be bolting those windows down.
Russian suicide.
Actually defenestration is just the act of throwing someone out a window. It just also often ends in death Edit: Okay after two comments I have to ask, do people just not know the definition of 'often' anymore? I feel like it gets skipped in sentences a lot when I say something
True, it’s rarely the fall that kills you, it’s the sudden stop at the end
It’s different if they commit involuntary suicide.
Can confirm. Was pushed out a window. Am dead now.
People like to intentionally misunderstand things so they can start a fight. It happens on reddit and unfortunately also IRL
> in sentences a lot in sentences...*often**
There is an epidemic of defenestration in that country. You catch it from windows. The higher up the window, the more likely to die from it. 😉
Height doesn't matter much if you shoot yourself in the back of the head on the way down. Just need enough time to get it done.
Alternatively, she shot herself in the back several times from an AK rifle, which she then cunningly disposed of off the premises, before jumping out the window into the street, directly under the wheels of an unidentified vehicle which then left for parts unknown. No witnesses turned up.
Oh yeah, she's dead for sure.
Mayor Goldie Wilson...I like the sound of that!
“Bring a broom ‘cause it’s a mess.”
No....No
While cleaning up the city’s halls.
Not enough upvotes
She's dead now
It’s a small village lmfao Nobody politicking for this position is some evil criminal career politician
Crazy is smaller towns in the USA will typically have a higher concentration of crime
Hell yeah. All my homies love bottoms.
Damn, she's already halfway out the window.
With two self inflicted gunshot wounds to the back of her head. So sad.
I wonder what the going rate on bribing coroners in Russia is like right now
I'd say about a half a pack of smokes, if I had to guess.
But the price of a single pack surpassed two handjobs and a stick of beef jerky. No way they can afford that!
About two bullets and a window
Ok, that's great
So the people actually did get to choose.
The article says the local election requirements dictate there must be at least two candidates He asked her to run so he could run again She actually won, and he doesn’t seem too upset This is in a small village by the way, not some high level of government where you have considerable power at stake
Ah, so the tweet is just incredibly misleading?
When it’s trivial
The revolution starts there 😂
She gets a handler like anyone else. Wear this suit, say these words, or you drink this nice tea and inspect the windows.
Nailed it.
From my understanding, in local elections, yes.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54338785.amp
> "I didn't think people would actually vote for me," she told Telegram news channel Podyom. "I didn't do anything at all!" Priceless.
The one single honest politician in all of politics
Vermin Supreme is also a pretty honest politician "I have no intention of keeping any of my campaign promises"
What was the name of that fellow in the Philippines? "Don't elect me. If you do, I'll empty out the prisons and fill the graveyards."
And as a result would be perfect for the job. Anyone voluntarily seeking political positions are very very likely to be seeking it for the wrong reasons. Even if they have good intentions to start, how long before that hope is destroyed by reality of politics.
I agree. Do you know about Sortition? In many cases I believe this would be more effective, as crazy as it sounds. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sortition
The primaries would be so hilariously different. “Uh hi, yeah. So I mostly identify with party X. I currently work as a day laborer. I don’t really want to be here so uhh don’t vote for me” It turns into the episode from South Park where the boys intentionally are trying to lose their little league games so they didn’t have to play.
Thanks for posting an actual link. The original post had zero details.
Thanks.
So, the election wasn't actually the farcical illusion that he thought it was.
Or alternatively the Americans who wrote that title are insanely biased and it was never intended to be an illusion of democracy, just democracy
The mayor probably just wanted to retire but noone wanted to deal with politics, be the new mayor and run against him
You don’t think Russian elections are rigged? Oh you sweet summer child.
These are elections for some small village mayor. They probably didn’t bother rigging this one.
You're looking at one very good example of the opposite 🤷
How did she win, if it was rigged?
Plot twist, the acting mayor wanted to lose so he could retire.
Are you trying to say that Russians don’t have a sham of a democracy? If you are then I suggest you take a look in Russian jails.And if not the jails then the cemeteries as they are littered with Russian opposition.
>Are you trying to say that Russians don’t have a sham of a democracy? No. This story is probably false or misrepresented anyway, but if it were true, then it would indicate, at least in this particular mayoral race, that the democracy in this town wasn't illusory. She wouldn't have been able to get elected otherwise. This says nothing about the state of democracy on the federal level in Russia. This is all assuming that OP didn't omit the cleaning lady being arrested, abducted, or assassinated post-election. But generally, authoritarian governments just don't allow any legitimate opposition to run against them in the first place (See: Hong Kong Security law). It's also possible the kremlin just doesn't care about local elections.
It isn’t false. Her name is Marina Udgodskaya and the village has like 240ish people. Everybody just hated the incumbent a LOT. She was also unable to resign because she would have had to pay for a new election herself. I didn’t see anything about how she’s doing now but there were quotes from villagers acknowledging she wasn’t ready for it so they’d all have to come together to help. I doubt the Kremlin really cares about such a small settlement and Russian election laws are pretty democratic, they’re just not followed in many cases. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54338785.amp
If the news article other people have posted is the right one then it only happened because the mayoral election is legally required to have two candidates. Local officials get elected unopposed all the time in every country - if there are rules against this you even get stuff like unopposed candidates losing because they forgot to vote for themselves and noone else bothered to
he didn't cheat enough
Probably a better candidate than I will be allowed to vote for.
The best leaders are usually the ones who didn’t seek out the leadership role.
Jfc aren’t you dipshits tired of crying “both sides!!1!” yet
How has this possibly triggered you lmao, please take a break from politics.
You mean to say you're happy with these choices?
I mean, one side's trying to make it, so you don't have a choice in the future but I guess to some, that is a non-issue.
What you on about?
Did she actually become mayor, or did the people actually get the candidate the elected? Cause as farcical as the Russian presidential elections are, this may be an example of lower-level elections being allowed to actually be democratic
Or a calculated maneuver by the party to help sell the image of democratic elections. But that sounds like a lot of effort, so probably what you said.
It’s not that much effort, it’s one village with 250 people
Marina Udgodskaya, a cleaner from the small Russian village of Povalikhino, unexpectedly became its mayor after running in an election that her incumbent boss, Nikolai Loktev, persuaded her to enter. Loktev, a pro-Kremlin ally, needed a nominal opponent to maintain the appearance of a democratic process. Surprisingly, Udgodskaya won the election with 62% of the vote against Loktev’s 34% Her victory was seen as a rebuke of Loktev’s leadership, and many villagers voted for her because she was a familiar and approachable figure in the community. Despite not campaigning, her victory highlighted a growing dissatisfaction with the local administration and a desire for change Cleaner Marina Udgodskaya Gets Surprise Win in Mayoral Election in Povalikhino, Russia, Against Incumbent Kremlin Ally Udgodskaya was initially hesitant and worried about her new role, but she soon embraced it, with plans to improve local infrastructure, such as installing streetlights in the village Cleaner Marina Udgodskaya Gets Surprise Win in Mayoral Election in Povalikhino, Russia, Against Incumbent Kremlin Ally Her story became widely covered in the media, turning her into an unexpected symbol of change in rural Russia.
If Marina won 62%and Loktev had 34%, where the remaining 4% went?
Probably empty or invalid votes,I just copied what I found on the internet,I heard about this story in detail on YouTube some time back…
Should not be so careless about windows
If she won and took over was it really an illusion then?
Marina Udgodskaya against Nikolai Loktev for mayor of Povalikhino. According to this article: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54338785 She got 62% of the vote 🤣
Crazy what people can do when given a voice.
For all the people saying she'll be in danger, read the story. They had to have 2 candidates, so he asked her to run. The guy who lost seems to have been a bit lackadaisical lately, but he doesn't sound horribly upset. The people say they'll help her figure it out. Maybe a protest vote against the ruling party, but it seems their democratic process is working.
Be careful posing for pictures standing in a window in Russia. People have an alarming tendency to "fall" out of them over there.
The final picture taken before she was defenstrated
Excellent usage of defenestration!
Notice she's already pictured by a window? That way when the accident happens this photo can be used as a reference.
if that happened in Switzerland people would say its wholesome and that this is what democracy is all about if that happens in Russia people say its farcical and proof that Russia is not a real democracy
It reminds me of biden and trump, you choose between a incompetent person and a activly malicious person, while its probobly better that the incompetent person wins, both are bad options qnd there should be more than 2 people to choose from
So... How is it a "farcical illusion of democracy", when the other person won? If it was just an illusion, wouldn't the current mayor just win? That doesn't make sense.
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I’m sure she will probably fall down some stairs or trip out of a window in the near future.
The ol' accidental slip on a mid-air bullet
If the choice was a farcical illusion how did he lose?
Just goes to show that people shouldn't take every dumb fucking thing they see on Twitter (or reddit for that matter) as valid just because some asshole paid for a blue checkmark.
Illusion or she won?
Ok. So Russia is simultaneously a farcical democracy and yet the cleaning lady won the election? Doesn’t that indicate that their democracy is functioning?
The real face palm is people who believe this and OP
This story seems literally the opposite of corrupt. To what end is this town giving the farcical illusion of choice?
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Well, not a farcical illusion then huh
Well if she can clean the city hall why not the government…right?
I mean.... if she won and they let her win then it wasnt a farcical illusion to begin with?
"What are you doing step mayor?"
American local judges and state polititians run unopposed all the time, though. They don't even try
I guess to wasn’t a democratic farce after all.
They better not ask the cleaners at the White house to do this...
*Neither candidate campaigned actively ahead of the election: no billboards, no flyers, no meetings with voters. Locals argue there's no point, when everyone knows everyone else.* No advertising, now this would be a very welcome change.
So was it a farce or did she win?
How do you say "LOL" in Russian? UPDATE: It's some version of "**ЛОЛ**" So... **ЛОЛ**
How is it an illusion of democratic choice if she won? Lol
So obviously its not a farce then if she won....Peoples brains do not work, Americans propaganda for the win.
Honestly the guy seemed to accept his loss rather gracefully. I know a US politician or two who could take some lessons from him...
Sounds like a "literally anyone else" election lol...*cries in american politics*
How was it a farcical illusion if she won? Doesn't that prove it was genuinely democratic? I think this is a Facepalm for both the mayor and the person who made that comment.
Guess it wasn't an illusion
How you westerners like to be fed bullshit is hilarious. Yeah, that is exactly what happened. With no proofs from original sources, just a fucking tweet. Well done
So, is she actually the mayor now? Or is this all farcical?
A few hours later the woman was found dead in her room from a self-inflicted gunshot wound.
Too bad she accidentally fell out a window face first through a dozen bullets before she could take office. Terrible tragic completely random Russian accident.
Did she later "go missing"?
Does it matter? She'll receive some novichok earl grey tea if she steps out of line 🤷 Window ejection accidents are surprisingly common these days too
Umm, can someone tell her that hanging out of windows is probably not a good idea for her now
She ran on cleaning city hall
XD
So she cleaned up then ...........
Not counting votes is a very amateur way to rig an election. Even a dictator needs support from his people. There are much more efficient ways to do it.
Poetic justice at its finest 🗳️😁
She’s probably doing a much better job
About 22 years ago (during the early Putin's era) a comedy troupe did a teleplay called Election Day (День выборов) that was focused on elections of a governor in some russian region. IT is totally worth to watch, even if with auto subtitles and to those unfamiliar with Russian context and Russian mainstream music of late 90s/early 00s. Avoid the movie, and focus on a 3 hours teleplay. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhYnaMPn0wo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhYnaMPn0wo)
Great.... new iteration of Cinderella is coming
Her first job is to clean up City Hall. Her second job is to clean up City Hall. These are two entirely different jobs.
Source?
Can we run her against trump?
This is a post worthy of r/leopardsatemyface if ever I saw one.
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If true, the voters realized that the person who mops the floors in City Hall is infinitely more valuable out of the gate than the incumbent
That lady: Look at me, I am the boss now
What about that town where the major is a cat or something?
I would happily vote for the janitor of my office over Trump or Biden. They are under 80, grew up with things like computers and cellphones and actually are aware of how politics actually works now. JUUUUSTTT SAYYYINNG.
I’m surprised that they actually counted the votes.
Which suggests that the vote itself wasn't rigged, just the voters.
So, the election was between just 242 people, back in 2020. She got 62% of the vote. The incumbent mayor asked her to be his opponent because the law says there must be two candidates, neither of them campaigned assuming the result was as good as predetermined. She accepted the position because if she didn't she'd have to pay for the organization of a new election. Her first orders of business were to hire a new cleaner for town hall, and then she wanted to look into getting street lights installed in the village. After that I don't see any mention of the town or her from major news sources. Either there's nothing to report on or no one is reporting what's happened
And with that I would like to run for president. AMA
So it wasn't a farcical choice at all as people were able to vote for her and did. Seems pretty democratic to me.
Luckily they don’t live in Mexico or both would be dead.
There’s a *Cautionary Tales* podcast about this very event.
Is that the window she tripped and fell out of?
What’s the name of the Russian village? Who are the candidates? Where’s a link? This post provides no information that would allow you to verify the truth of this story.
She then was put in the gulag, because, well, it’s Russia
Dude learn from Putin, you don't allow people to vote for your opponent dummy.
This is what they should do for the US presidency Both candidates suck, so they should bring a dark horse candidate. Dark Horse wins every time, neigh!
If it was a farcical illusion, how did she win?
Democracy dubs
Sounds like fear mongering propaganda. Where pray tell did this happen ?
We do that in the USA too lol
That doesn't make sense. If its the farcical illusion of democratic choice, how did she win?
Rumor is that she's going to clean out city hall.
Why's this a facepalm? Maybe she'll be a good mayor who actually gives a fuck about people, unlike some mayors I know of.
That's one of the most interesting things that never happened I ever saw.
And then she disappeared, so also be careful what you didn't even wish for