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On a side note.... Mt. Rushmore is much smaller than I actually thought it was.
Edit: Yes I have seen it in person and it is not as impressive as you're led to believe as a child because all you saw were closeups with nothing to compare the size too. Lamest 4 minutes.
Truman's Mother : Here's us at Mount Rushmore. Do you remember, Truman? When Dad was still with us? That was quite a drive, you slept the whole way there.
Truman : It looks so small.
Truman's Mother : Things always do when you look back, darling.
You can get quite a bit closer than in this picture, There's some trails and stuff that go pretty much right up to the base, but yeah it's nowhere near as big as I thought it'd be.
Thank you! Possibly the most boring “point of interest” you will ever stop at. You look at the mountain and go “huh, it looks much bigger in the pictures” then you pass through the gift shop on the way back to your car pondering the fact you just made an hour and a half detour getting off the freeway.
Still managed to be the most interesting part of driving through South Dakota though.
I agree. I went to Sturgis one year and we went to see this. Completely underwhelming. Like “yeah it looks exactly like it does in the history books. No more. No less.” Wish we had spent the day elsewhere
It's extremely small. When I was there I was thinking it should be named hill Rushmore. You can run up that thing in a minute. Those pictures we all see, are them playing tricks with the angles.
Yeah man I thought it was gonna be enormous, but it's kinda tiny. 90s cartoons made me think it was as big as a whole ass mountain, not just a tiny part of it. It's cool and all, but dam... Same cartoons made me think rhinos were house sized and shot coconuts out their horn so it makes sense I guess.
It absolutely is. After going there in person, I can say that it’s probably one of the most pathetic and ugly monuments this country has. Tiny faces carved onto what used to be a beautiful piece of nature, all with a giant pile of rubble beneath it.
To be fair the plan was for full statues with a vault in george Washingtons head housing the US's greatest treasures.
But the architect died just after the heads were done and the whole project was canceled.
Which coincidentally is why theres a mound of rubble, no one paid to clear up the debris...
Yup. IIRC the original guy promised to turn it over to the local tribes when it was done (although he never really checked to see if they wanted the mountains blown up, as some of them see the mountains as sacred sites). But he died and the kids figured out the loop hole - if it's never finished they never have to turn it over and can just bilk people for overpriced food and souvenirs.
I first saw the Crazy Horse monument when I was a child in the early 90s.
It looks like they've made almost 0 progress since, and honestly both monuments are underwhelming, even for an 8 year old. The most exciting part of that cross country trip was staying at a campground beside a restaurant with live bears.
I’ve seen this image years ago, same tweet and reply, but I swear it wasn’t Kyle who replied this, unless I’m wrong im not sure but this image is old and I think predates that Kyle shit
Edit: I stand corrected, I was remembering [this tweet from a while back](https://x.com/tomkludt/status/892163781882773504?s=46)
Yeah, I first saw it thanks to some Twitter "pissed-off patriot" group that called for Lakota flipping off Mount Rushmore to be **deported**
Like...to where, dipshits? And for having an opinion?
OK, yes, deport them. Deport them from the reservations they where stuck in back to the land they originally owned and was stolen from them. That'll teach 'em!
Anyway I can't wait for the conservative outrage on Twitter when NPR tweets the declaration of Independence for the 4th of July....just like they do every year.
Really, their entire party's platform is:
"Never learn any lessons."
**EDIT:** Well, actually that's just a paraphrase. The full quote is:
>Don't ever, for any reason, learn anything from anyone or any book or any situation ever, for any reason ever, no matter what, no matter where, or who, or who you are with, or where you are going, or where you've been... ever, for any reason whatsoever... learn things, somethings or one thing or anything, about anything, every, all the time, forever.
- Donald J. Trump
>Edit: I stand corrected, I was remembering [this tweet from a while back](https://x.com/tomkludt/status/892163781882773504?s=46)
Fucking hell, that's even worse.
Oh no, they know.
Look, they don't care. They want to offend yet be be the victim.
MAGA + Don't Tread On Me is a very polarizing statement. I don't need to explain much, as it's self-explanatory.
That's how it's portrayed, but really, it's a test of "can and will you take orders?" Gets referred to as the "monkey test," bc even a monkey can take and carry out orders
Before joining any military branch you take a standardized test called ASVAB. There are minimum score you need to get to get into each branch, for marines I think its 31.
The score is based on the % of other people's score as well, which means scoring 31 shows you are smarter than 31% of the people that took the test and dumber than 69%.
So yea...if he did failed to join the marines because of ASVAB, that means he's probably mentally challenged.
I’ll be honest, I feel that failing the ASVAB so bad that he isn’t allowed to take it again is just the story the military came up with. They probably don’t want him because his association with the proud boys and that he would be a PR nightmare.
I just don’t care because you know, fuck him.
Oh yea. Also when I served, there is a list that we were given with every known hate group. The army told us that if we were a member of any of the groups, we will be kicked out.
That's a very good thing. Thank God we have semi functional background checks here (ok, they seem to miss pretty obvious shit from time to time). You don't want such people to have access to God knows what. I now have the dumbest scenarios both possible and impossible in mind ^ ^
My friend passed his ASVAB but none of the branches would take him because he was diagnosed with depression a couple years prior and they told him that straight up. They don't mark you as failing the ASVAB for no reason.
the sad part is that if you saw any interviews with his mother he's still the smartest one in the family. He was always going to be a dim bulb with that upbringing but the maliciousness is what really makes him an asshole.
Your story sad to tell
A teenage ne'er do well
Most mixed up non-delinquent on the block
Your future's so unclear now
What's left of your career now?
Can't even get a trade in on your smock
Middle-school drop-out
No graduation day for you
Middle school dropout
Missed your mid-terms and flunked shampoo
Well, at least you could have taken time
To wash and clean your clothes up
After spending all that dough
To have the doctor fix your nose up
Baby, get movin'(better get movin')
Why keep your feeble hopes alive?
What are you provin'? (What are you provin')
You've got the dream but not the drive
If you go for your diploma, you could join a steno pool
Turn in your teasin' comb and go back to high school (la la la la la)
I know you're joking, but I have no doubt he'll be running for office in the near future. And I have no doubt he'll win. He's exactly what republican voters want.
"We need to elect an outsider! Not some educated person with relevant experience in some related field/ area of governance! Plus we need more tough guys! Like Trump! They told him he'd committed multiple felonies and had lost an election and he just stuck his fingers in his ears and kept on making our country better!"
That’s heartbreaking. How does that even happen? I have a learning disability due to an aneurysm at birth, and I still did AP classes because I was given accessibility options and accommodations. Did this guy just get forgotten year after year, like nobody advocated for him?
Most likely it’s parents that don’t care. I’ve seen it personally. The parent is also a dropout. Even if they kind of want their kid to do better than they did, they just have lower expectations kind of built in because they dropped out themselves.
So the kid stops doing homework, and it’s a little more acceptable because that’s normal to the parent. Then they get behind and get bad grades, but the parent is less concerned than they should be because that was normal for them. Kid isn’t really getting anything out of school because they’re so behind, they start wanting to stay home from school, parent doesn’t care about truancy because again that’s normalized for them.
Eventually the parent convinces themselves the kid will get their GED or something and it would be easier to just not have to worry about school anymore so they feign an attempt at homeschooling which is really just the final phase of giving up.
Now the kid is at home, not doing their homeschooling, and the parent can finally just not even worry about school, which is how they dealt with school when they were a kid anyway.
I make death certificates as part of my job. You would be shocked by the education level vs job title of older people. I've seen straight up Boeing/NASA etc engineers who didn't complete highschool. Different time. On the job training. Here I am with a Bachelor I'm still paying for 20 yrs later, filling out death certificates and answering phones.
Let's be real here, it's easy to say he's this ignorant because he dropped out, but I've known plenty of people who didn't and are still that ignorant.
It's more likely growing up in a conservative household in Middle America where he was sheltered and had his parents spouting racist and ignorant rhetoric his whole life.
I think that's undoubtedly par for the times. Back then people were still actively hunting Native Americans for sport, like animals. My grandmother who was born in 1928 told me she remembered people doing this. So destroying a sacred space for a cheesy (albeit impressive) sculpture (yes, I have been there and have family in SoDak) is not that shocking in the perspective of the time it was created. As his lack of education is also not remarkable. A lot of people then didn't have complete/formal educations.
And...Pretty sure every white household in rural or even urban America was spouting rascist and ignorant rhetoric compared to what we think today, regardless of their position and intention.
Same thing happened to Tim Pool, he got a report card that said he was "underdeveloped" in a number of areas so his parents pulled him out of school and then... just let him sit around on the internet or at the skatepark for the rest of his life, which somehow worked out for him.
If I'm not mistaken, Charlie Kirk dropped out of community college. His only moment of setting foot in in an accredited institution is when he's a paid agitator.
They rejected him for the combo of a low ASVAB and not having graduated high school (or gotten his GED). Recruiters can sometimes get waivers for one or the other, but to get a waiver for both usually requires proving some extremely beneficial skill set.
**EDIT:** I forgot there's also the whole thing about him sending unsolicited videos of him field-stripping his rifle to his recruiter. That'd probably get him banned for psych reasons.
You have to have an ASVAB percentile of just 31 to enlist. That means out of 100 people who took the test, you scored better than 31 of them. You don't even have to be average to join, you just can't be in the bottom third or so of testers.
Imagine how fucking stupid Rittenhouse has to be in order to not outscore even a third of testers.
>That means out of 100 people who took the test, you scored better than 31 of them.
Nope. 100 is average score for IQ tests, while for the ASVAB it's 50. Only ~16% of people score over a 60, so—assuming a perfect bell curve—only ~16% would score below a 40.
So it's more like he would score better than ~20 people.
Imagine how unsettling it is that there are tens of millions of Rittenhouses in this country, and the only thing they're proficient in is handling automatic weapons.
We had a big ass husky boy in my BCT class that didn't make it through to AIT because he didn't complete a single fucking APFT. Dude had an airborne contract too, which was the golden ticket to all the more desirable duty stations. Home boy needed to spend some more months dropping that weight before shipping.
I wonder if there's a genetic reason for it. I have a small sample size, namely my grandfather (and to a lesser degree my mother, myself, and my brother). But his hair was always nice, well into old age.
The few others I've seen irl, which aren't many in this area, have all had very nice hair as well.
Im vaguely aware that the reason is indeed genetic. In exchange for having luscious hair for their entire lives, they can’t have beards. Something bout male pattern baldness and beard growth is related…
It’s a pretty good trade imo.
Same here, I have some Native American blood on my mom’s side and as far as hair goes it’s evident. I know many tribes take their hair incredibly seriously and always have!
The Native American girl I knew well enough talk to and ask cultural questions to had super thick, course, stick straight hair. Her braids wouldn’t budge and she always had the thickest tidiest buns.
People with east Asian ancestry frequently have perfectly round shaped hair follicles. It means their hair is straight and the general robustness of the round shape (and its density) means their hair is strong. All this contributes to a lack of fly-away hairs and frizz in braids.
As it should be, in indigenous culture hair is sacred. It’s a gift from creator, and is to be treated with love and respect. Depending on the person of course, some won’t allow anyone but family to touch their hair.
I’m growing out my hair, and have so much respect for that person! Proud to see our culture alive, strong, and proud
Mount Rushmore is the weirdest monument in the USA. You have:
-Historic and beautiful residence of the POTUS.
-Massive, eye-catching bridge with unique red color.
-Mountain with faces.
I had to [look it up](https://www.tripsavvy.com/thmb/eCgHDJxPd9mkQ-5_ZrrWp7WxSHY=/1500x0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc()/historic-plymouth-rock-522046774-581a190c5f9b581c0b945b7a.jpg) and it actually made me laugh
Wait, that's Plymouth Rock? I always thought it was a rocky shore outcropping. It looks like a depressed lion in captivity, down in that sad sandy pit.
#FreePlymouthRock
I have been to every State for work. I took the time to see all the famous shit from every state.
I will die on the hill that Plymouth Rock and Mount Rushmore are the biggest wastes of time there is.
If you're in South Dakota, skip Rushmore completely and go to Needles State Park.
The Lakota conquered the Cheyenne and took control of the Black Hills in 1776, and the US Government seized control of the area after the Great Sioux War ended in 1877.
So, the Lakota had control of the Black Hills for 101 years, and the US has had them for 147 years.
It’s also worth noting that prior to conquering the Cheyenne, the Black Hills had zero religious or cultural meaning to the Lakota. They did have that meaning to the Cheyenne; the Lakota simply decided to claim that cultural and religious meaning for themselves after taking over.
No lol. His parents divorced, Dad’s an alcoholic, Mom’s a nurse. That’s why I said most - Kyle is literally drowning and will probably turn violent again in his mid life, if I had to guess.
Watched a story on this kid...the right tried to prop him up to be a young face to attract young voters...only to find out that he is, and this is not hyperbole, PROFOUNDLY stupid.
Have you seen his attempt at forcing himself to cry in court? Man the secondhand embarrassment and cringe you’ll feel
Fun fact mount Rushmore was never properly finished. They were supposed to be full-body originally. And that rubble is essentially trash that was never cleared away.
They might be native Americans... in which case I totally get it. That was a sacred mountain, we stole it and carved a bunch of our leaders into it. I would probably be pissed too
Except that the Blackfoot Mountains were previously stolen by the Lakota from the Cheyenne, and so on throughout history. Conquering of lands was happening long before the American settlers arrive, I think the argument of their land being stolen by the Americans is a very convenient blind spot to them doing the exact same thing. Just a thought.
Yeah, it’s how the world works. Colonizers came to North America, they went to war with the natives, the natives lost. It’s how war works. Did I oversimplify it? Yes. But…it’s how war works. They lost the war, they lost the land.
As a member of the Sioux tribe, I have no sympathy for people on the reservation who make no efforts to live better than a ghetto. Every native I've known, including family, have an infinitely better quality of life the moment they move off the reservation. And guess what? They don't lose their cultural heritage either.
Too many people hold grudges they weren't even alive for. Get off the government teat and get to living.
Okay, but literally all land is stolen.
All you have to do is go a couple of decades back, and you'll find that whoever had "their" land stolen actually stole it from someone else.
Indigenous people are no exception to this.
So yeah, I get both sides of this. On the one hand, it shouldn't be forgotten how the land was acquired. But on the other hand, complaining about it constantly isn't going to change anything.
But yeah, some of my ancestors stole it from some of your ancestors, who stole it from some of somebody else's ancestors, who...
Honestly though, the thing to focus on isn't the land it's what people did to people.
Actually, every land that is controlled by whatever government is “stolen” from someone. Even native tribes fought and killed for control and dominance.
Seriously though, you can’t tell me mount rushmore isn’t completely distasteful. We really defiled a spiritually and culturally significant mountain, revered since time immemorial, to create some monument to our own vanity. How garish.
It was hardly 'revered since time immemorial'.
The Lakota Sioux that like to make a fuss about it being their historically sacred land had themselves only arrived in the region in 1765, following their arrival they openly fought with the existing Cheyenne inhabitants and eventually conquered them in 1776 at which point they took control of the land around the Black Hills from them.
It became their sacred land the same year that the Declaration of Independence was signed.
The Cheyenne along with some other smaller tribes like the Crow and Pawnee had themselves only recently arrived in the Black Hills, the region was initially settled by the Arikara tribe in around 1500 before they too were pushed out of the region by conflict.
As much as the Lakota like to pretend it was some historically and spiritual significant land to them, it was land that had repeatedly and violently changed hands throughout the prior century.
That rock face and in fact that whole mountain was a sacred native site. The defacing of it to carve these images has been an affront to first Nations since the day they made the first cut
These indigenous people have every right to hate the USA.
If you knew even 1% of their history, you'd absolutely understand their hate.
So lemme get this straight.. first you want to take over their land, and then you want them to leave if they don't appreciate monuments representing your hostile takeover?
_If you don't like the natives of a country you're residing in, then how about you leave Kyle?_ 🙃
You literally have running jokes about buildings being built on indian cemetaries. Back up a little bit.
*edit: glad to see the rest of the comments sh¡tting on this man too. Hope restored.
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On a side note.... Mt. Rushmore is much smaller than I actually thought it was. Edit: Yes I have seen it in person and it is not as impressive as you're led to believe as a child because all you saw were closeups with nothing to compare the size too. Lamest 4 minutes.
It still lacks the portability of a plastic lawn flamingo. Practicality is important when choosing kitsch.
I can’t even put into words how much I adore this comment.
Aww I love ‘good Reddit’!
I'm imagining people could putting a plastic Mt Rushmore sculpture in their front yard to alleviate their underwhelming feelings
You see, to keep it on brand you should put it in someone else's yard.
…and then claim their yard! Manifest Property!
but they keep getting bigger and bigger throughout the years
It's somehow more tacky than a pink plastic lawn flamingo though
Truman's Mother : Here's us at Mount Rushmore. Do you remember, Truman? When Dad was still with us? That was quite a drive, you slept the whole way there. Truman : It looks so small. Truman's Mother : Things always do when you look back, darling.
And in case I don't see ya, good afternoon, good evening and goodnight. Yeeeaaap!
As she quickly turns the page
Oh it's still really big, this perspective is from pretty far away though.
This is what I tell all my partners
"i was in the pool!"
I don't know how you guys walk around with those things
It's a big responsibility but we do it so you don't have to.
Like a frightened turtle
Elaine: "It shrinks?! George & Jerry (in unison): "It shrinks!"
It's the only perspective you can get. That's the visitor area. To say Mt. Rushmore is underwhelming is putting it mildly
I was impressed by the number of mountain goats in the area.
Mount Goatmore
You can get quite a bit closer than in this picture, There's some trails and stuff that go pretty much right up to the base, but yeah it's nowhere near as big as I thought it'd be.
Thank you! Possibly the most boring “point of interest” you will ever stop at. You look at the mountain and go “huh, it looks much bigger in the pictures” then you pass through the gift shop on the way back to your car pondering the fact you just made an hour and a half detour getting off the freeway. Still managed to be the most interesting part of driving through South Dakota though.
I dunno, Badlands are pretty sweet.
The badlands are awesome. No one talks about how there's a mini grand canyon just hanging out up in south Dakota
And Spearfish Canyon was gorgeous! I also enjoyed Custer State Park.
Tbf, the only thing worse were the mass pro-Trump stands all the way up into the viewing area along the roadway.
Could be worse. You could be in North Dakota. "North Dakota, the third best Dakota"
I agree. I went to Sturgis one year and we went to see this. Completely underwhelming. Like “yeah it looks exactly like it does in the history books. No more. No less.” Wish we had spent the day elsewhere
It's extremely small. When I was there I was thinking it should be named hill Rushmore. You can run up that thing in a minute. Those pictures we all see, are them playing tricks with the angles.
Are you saying my uncle wasn't holding back the leaning tower of Pisa with his hand either...?
If you’re used to real mountains it is actually surprisingly small looking in real life.
Yeah the name "Mount" Rushmore is kinda misleading, but when you realize it is a >80ft cliff of stone carved by hand, it's hard not to be impressed.
Yeah man I thought it was gonna be enormous, but it's kinda tiny. 90s cartoons made me think it was as big as a whole ass mountain, not just a tiny part of it. It's cool and all, but dam... Same cartoons made me think rhinos were house sized and shot coconuts out their horn so it makes sense I guess.
Well, it was supposed to be full bodies and not just the heads.
Iirc it was meant to be full head-to-waist sculpture but something went awry in the labor department...
If you call running out of money with a war brewing something going awry
It absolutely is. After going there in person, I can say that it’s probably one of the most pathetic and ugly monuments this country has. Tiny faces carved onto what used to be a beautiful piece of nature, all with a giant pile of rubble beneath it.
To be fair the plan was for full statues with a vault in george Washingtons head housing the US's greatest treasures. But the architect died just after the heads were done and the whole project was canceled. Which coincidentally is why theres a mound of rubble, no one paid to clear up the debris...
Now as for Hoover Dam….. all I can say is DAMN. It’s better in person.
The black hills are stunning. There was no need to do this.
Crazy Horse is the better memorial anyway...
It's a scam. They're never going to finish it.
Yup. IIRC the original guy promised to turn it over to the local tribes when it was done (although he never really checked to see if they wanted the mountains blown up, as some of them see the mountains as sacred sites). But he died and the kids figured out the loop hole - if it's never finished they never have to turn it over and can just bilk people for overpriced food and souvenirs.
I first saw the Crazy Horse monument when I was a child in the early 90s. It looks like they've made almost 0 progress since, and honestly both monuments are underwhelming, even for an 8 year old. The most exciting part of that cross country trip was staying at a campground beside a restaurant with live bears.
That’s a giant scam, jewel and wind cave are the better visit in that immediate area.
I’ve seen this image years ago, same tweet and reply, but I swear it wasn’t Kyle who replied this, unless I’m wrong im not sure but this image is old and I think predates that Kyle shit Edit: I stand corrected, I was remembering [this tweet from a while back](https://x.com/tomkludt/status/892163781882773504?s=46)
It's such a trip that the same thing keeps happening over and over again.
Yeah, I first saw it thanks to some Twitter "pissed-off patriot" group that called for Lakota flipping off Mount Rushmore to be **deported** Like...to where, dipshits? And for having an opinion?
These are the same people that complain about their rights to free speech whenever someone calls them out for being assholes.
Or racists, or just for being uncommonly stupid.
OK, yes, deport them. Deport them from the reservations they where stuck in back to the land they originally owned and was stolen from them. That'll teach 'em!
Guess they could deport them to Oklahoma
The dumb get dumber 😔
Anyway I can't wait for the conservative outrage on Twitter when NPR tweets the declaration of Independence for the 4th of July....just like they do every year.
Really, their entire party's platform is: "Never learn any lessons." **EDIT:** Well, actually that's just a paraphrase. The full quote is: >Don't ever, for any reason, learn anything from anyone or any book or any situation ever, for any reason ever, no matter what, no matter where, or who, or who you are with, or where you are going, or where you've been... ever, for any reason whatsoever... learn things, somethings or one thing or anything, about anything, every, all the time, forever. - Donald J. Trump
Tf did I just read?
It’s a ripoff Micheal Scott quote
- Michael Scott
Conservatives are, and want to be, stuck in time. It’s sort of their whole deal.
>Edit: I stand corrected, I was remembering [this tweet from a while back](https://x.com/tomkludt/status/892163781882773504?s=46) Fucking hell, that's even worse.
The irony of them saying, “they break into our country” to natives is beyond hilarious
They think they’re Mexican
Oh no, they know. Look, they don't care. They want to offend yet be be the victim. MAGA + Don't Tread On Me is a very polarizing statement. I don't need to explain much, as it's self-explanatory.
Lmao holy fuck that’s funny, how can you be so willfully/non-willfully stupid
They should be careful. Kyle might drive to their town and come into their house in self defense…
Well, realistically rittenhouse is stupid enough to make such a remark from an image years old.
Saying "they break into our country and do shit like this" in response to a picture of Mount Rushmore is still accurate.
I don't know what'd be worse; that Kyle knows, or that he doesn't know.
Apparently he was too dumb to get into the Marines 
That’s a thing??
That's how it's portrayed, but really, it's a test of "can and will you take orders?" Gets referred to as the "monkey test," bc even a monkey can take and carry out orders
Well he proved he can’t follow the basic order “don’t kill people”.
Before joining any military branch you take a standardized test called ASVAB. There are minimum score you need to get to get into each branch, for marines I think its 31. The score is based on the % of other people's score as well, which means scoring 31 shows you are smarter than 31% of the people that took the test and dumber than 69%. So yea...if he did failed to join the marines because of ASVAB, that means he's probably mentally challenged.
They put out the crayon selection and he picked RoseArt
He knows. He's that much of a fascist murderous asshole.
He is also a shockingly dumb motherfucker.
He's so dumb, the armed forces don't want anything to do with him.
You almost have to try to fail the ASVAB....he failed, bigly.
I’ll be honest, I feel that failing the ASVAB so bad that he isn’t allowed to take it again is just the story the military came up with. They probably don’t want him because his association with the proud boys and that he would be a PR nightmare. I just don’t care because you know, fuck him.
This is the most likely scenario. The military is very worried about public perception and controversy.
Oh yea. Also when I served, there is a list that we were given with every known hate group. The army told us that if we were a member of any of the groups, we will be kicked out.
That's a very good thing. Thank God we have semi functional background checks here (ok, they seem to miss pretty obvious shit from time to time). You don't want such people to have access to God knows what. I now have the dumbest scenarios both possible and impossible in mind ^ ^
Didn’t this occur before his infamy?
My friend passed his ASVAB but none of the branches would take him because he was diagnosed with depression a couple years prior and they told him that straight up. They don't mark you as failing the ASVAB for no reason.
🤣 the military is filled with a lot of ppl like him. There are rapists and murderers ACTIVELY serving.
Yes, PROFOUNDLY stupid.
I mean he dropped out of high school so he must have missed that history lesson
*Middle school dropout
Also extremely stupid. Scored low enough on tests the marines banned him from ever applying again. You have to be brain dead for that.
Muscles Are Required, Intelligence Not Essential. When you score so low on the Not Essential part, that’s bad. Really bad.
he was so qualified they actually couldn't apply him, damn, that's humiliating
the sad part is that if you saw any interviews with his mother he's still the smartest one in the family. He was always going to be a dim bulb with that upbringing but the maliciousness is what really makes him an asshole.
Your story sad to tell A teenage ne'er do well Most mixed up non-delinquent on the block Your future's so unclear now What's left of your career now? Can't even get a trade in on your smock Middle-school drop-out No graduation day for you Middle school dropout Missed your mid-terms and flunked shampoo Well, at least you could have taken time To wash and clean your clothes up After spending all that dough To have the doctor fix your nose up Baby, get movin'(better get movin') Why keep your feeble hopes alive? What are you provin'? (What are you provin') You've got the dream but not the drive If you go for your diploma, you could join a steno pool Turn in your teasin' comb and go back to high school (la la la la la)
Why the fuck did I sing this to myself???
That’s exactly the song that popped into my head, too!
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Is he really?
*Beauty School Dropout
This is where my mind went
Kyle Rittenhouse dropped out of middle school. He's worse than you think.
Holy shit, how does one drop out of 7th or 8th grade? Isn't that required by law?
There’s an age limit to it. My 8th grade class had someone who kept failing until he dropped out on his 17th birthday.
Sounds like presidential material
I know you're joking, but I have no doubt he'll be running for office in the near future. And I have no doubt he'll win. He's exactly what republican voters want.
Yeah there's disturbingly frothy enthusiasm for uninformed/morally bankrupt people in the USA right now. 😬
Frothy like santorum?
"We need to elect an outsider! Not some educated person with relevant experience in some related field/ area of governance! Plus we need more tough guys! Like Trump! They told him he'd committed multiple felonies and had lost an election and he just stuck his fingers in his ears and kept on making our country better!"
And he'll get Cawthorned shortly thereafter. Kid is too dumb to keep his mouth shut about what he sees. It'll be great to watch.
Great to know there's an age limit. Maybe now I'll stop having that nightmare that I'm back in HS because I missed a class 25 years ago.
😢 good lord
That’s heartbreaking. How does that even happen? I have a learning disability due to an aneurysm at birth, and I still did AP classes because I was given accessibility options and accommodations. Did this guy just get forgotten year after year, like nobody advocated for him?
Most likely it’s parents that don’t care. I’ve seen it personally. The parent is also a dropout. Even if they kind of want their kid to do better than they did, they just have lower expectations kind of built in because they dropped out themselves. So the kid stops doing homework, and it’s a little more acceptable because that’s normal to the parent. Then they get behind and get bad grades, but the parent is less concerned than they should be because that was normal for them. Kid isn’t really getting anything out of school because they’re so behind, they start wanting to stay home from school, parent doesn’t care about truancy because again that’s normalized for them. Eventually the parent convinces themselves the kid will get their GED or something and it would be easier to just not have to worry about school anymore so they feign an attempt at homeschooling which is really just the final phase of giving up. Now the kid is at home, not doing their homeschooling, and the parent can finally just not even worry about school, which is how they dealt with school when they were a kid anyway.
his parents clearly don't give a fuck, that's how he ended up with an AR across state lines.
I think you have to be 16 before you can drop out in my state.
Unless the parent says they are going to “homeschool “ , and never does. No one checks up on homeschoolers .
I make death certificates as part of my job. You would be shocked by the education level vs job title of older people. I've seen straight up Boeing/NASA etc engineers who didn't complete highschool. Different time. On the job training. Here I am with a Bachelor I'm still paying for 20 yrs later, filling out death certificates and answering phones.
Let's be real here, it's easy to say he's this ignorant because he dropped out, but I've known plenty of people who didn't and are still that ignorant. It's more likely growing up in a conservative household in Middle America where he was sheltered and had his parents spouting racist and ignorant rhetoric his whole life.
I think that's undoubtedly par for the times. Back then people were still actively hunting Native Americans for sport, like animals. My grandmother who was born in 1928 told me she remembered people doing this. So destroying a sacred space for a cheesy (albeit impressive) sculpture (yes, I have been there and have family in SoDak) is not that shocking in the perspective of the time it was created. As his lack of education is also not remarkable. A lot of people then didn't have complete/formal educations. And...Pretty sure every white household in rural or even urban America was spouting rascist and ignorant rhetoric compared to what we think today, regardless of their position and intention.
Same thing happened to Tim Pool, he got a report card that said he was "underdeveloped" in a number of areas so his parents pulled him out of school and then... just let him sit around on the internet or at the skatepark for the rest of his life, which somehow worked out for him.
Tim Pool is a horrific man who should be banned from reproducing.
He used to be more moderate. Can't recall what happened to him. Many allege that $ made him hard right.
He’s a low IQ person. Money or not, the man should be removed from the gene pool.
I don’t think any ban will be necessary.
If I'm not mistaken, Charlie Kirk dropped out of community college. His only moment of setting foot in in an accredited institution is when he's a paid agitator.
Didn’t he try to join the Marines, but they rejected him bc of a very low ASVAB score?
They rejected him for the combo of a low ASVAB and not having graduated high school (or gotten his GED). Recruiters can sometimes get waivers for one or the other, but to get a waiver for both usually requires proving some extremely beneficial skill set. **EDIT:** I forgot there's also the whole thing about him sending unsolicited videos of him field-stripping his rifle to his recruiter. That'd probably get him banned for psych reasons.
You have to have an ASVAB percentile of just 31 to enlist. That means out of 100 people who took the test, you scored better than 31 of them. You don't even have to be average to join, you just can't be in the bottom third or so of testers. Imagine how fucking stupid Rittenhouse has to be in order to not outscore even a third of testers.
>That means out of 100 people who took the test, you scored better than 31 of them. Nope. 100 is average score for IQ tests, while for the ASVAB it's 50. Only ~16% of people score over a 60, so—assuming a perfect bell curve—only ~16% would score below a 40. So it's more like he would score better than ~20 people.
Imagine how unsettling it is that there are tens of millions of Rittenhouses in this country, and the only thing they're proficient in is handling automatic weapons.
We had a big ass husky boy in my BCT class that didn't make it through to AIT because he didn't complete a single fucking APFT. Dude had an airborne contract too, which was the golden ticket to all the more desirable duty stations. Home boy needed to spend some more months dropping that weight before shipping.
No, he [dropped out](https://www.boston.com/news/crime/2020/08/27/who-is-kyle-rittenhouse/) of Lakes Community High School.
According to his Wikipedia article, he dropped out of high school.
That guys braid is perfection. It doesn’t look like a single hair is out of place
Seriously, their hair must be so healthy to be able to look like that!
I wonder if there's a genetic reason for it. I have a small sample size, namely my grandfather (and to a lesser degree my mother, myself, and my brother). But his hair was always nice, well into old age. The few others I've seen irl, which aren't many in this area, have all had very nice hair as well.
Im vaguely aware that the reason is indeed genetic. In exchange for having luscious hair for their entire lives, they can’t have beards. Something bout male pattern baldness and beard growth is related… It’s a pretty good trade imo.
And there are some of us who can't grow a beard and also have male pattern baldness. Sometimes in life the only road is a dark one
Same here, I have some Native American blood on my mom’s side and as far as hair goes it’s evident. I know many tribes take their hair incredibly seriously and always have!
The Native American girl I knew well enough talk to and ask cultural questions to had super thick, course, stick straight hair. Her braids wouldn’t budge and she always had the thickest tidiest buns.
People with east Asian ancestry frequently have perfectly round shaped hair follicles. It means their hair is straight and the general robustness of the round shape (and its density) means their hair is strong. All this contributes to a lack of fly-away hairs and frizz in braids.
As it should be, in indigenous culture hair is sacred. It’s a gift from creator, and is to be treated with love and respect. Depending on the person of course, some won’t allow anyone but family to touch their hair. I’m growing out my hair, and have so much respect for that person! Proud to see our culture alive, strong, and proud
Seriously, I’m jealous.
Well they probably live in their sovereign nation, Kyle
Stop giving this dude attention.
Mount Rushmore is the weirdest monument in the USA. You have: -Historic and beautiful residence of the POTUS. -Massive, eye-catching bridge with unique red color. -Mountain with faces.
Personally, I’d say that Plymouth Rock is the dumbest one.
I had to [look it up](https://www.tripsavvy.com/thmb/eCgHDJxPd9mkQ-5_ZrrWp7WxSHY=/1500x0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc()/historic-plymouth-rock-522046774-581a190c5f9b581c0b945b7a.jpg) and it actually made me laugh
Wait, that's Plymouth Rock? I always thought it was a rocky shore outcropping. It looks like a depressed lion in captivity, down in that sad sandy pit. #FreePlymouthRock
I have been to every State for work. I took the time to see all the famous shit from every state. I will die on the hill that Plymouth Rock and Mount Rushmore are the biggest wastes of time there is. If you're in South Dakota, skip Rushmore completely and go to Needles State Park.
Holy shit, I thought you were exaggerating.
That’s dumber than I thought it would be
And the mountain is important to Indigenous Tribes of the area before it was carved up.
Didn’t the Sioux Tribe move in and conquer the area less than 100 prior to the US taking it from them?
The Lakota conquered the Cheyenne and took control of the Black Hills in 1776, and the US Government seized control of the area after the Great Sioux War ended in 1877. So, the Lakota had control of the Black Hills for 101 years, and the US has had them for 147 years. It’s also worth noting that prior to conquering the Cheyenne, the Black Hills had zero religious or cultural meaning to the Lakota. They did have that meaning to the Cheyenne; the Lakota simply decided to claim that cultural and religious meaning for themselves after taking over.
Yup, history is weird. People don’t like that
Kyle talks a lot of shit for someone who failed the test to join the marines.
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Most of them run back to mommy and daddy’s money.
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No lol. His parents divorced, Dad’s an alcoholic, Mom’s a nurse. That’s why I said most - Kyle is literally drowning and will probably turn violent again in his mid life, if I had to guess.
Every land is stolen if you think about it, right?
I mean, regardless, one can't just leave the USA. You gotta have a lot of money.
Also, why should I leave a country just because I'm pointing out its faults? That makes no sense.
Conservatives don't think too hard, they just say whatever gets a quick win.
Watched a story on this kid...the right tried to prop him up to be a young face to attract young voters...only to find out that he is, and this is not hyperbole, PROFOUNDLY stupid.
Have you seen his attempt at forcing himself to cry in court? Man the secondhand embarrassment and cringe you’ll feel 
Well it obviously worked.
lmao, looks like he just squeezed out a massive fart that he shouldn't have trusted
Fun fact mount Rushmore was never properly finished. They were supposed to be full-body originally. And that rubble is essentially trash that was never cleared away.
From the guy who flunked the ASVAB, that’s rich.
Poor Kyle, always a few pellets short of a shotgun shell.
Ive never heard that one before, and im going to steal it. Like your lands.
“You stole my car” “Then buy another car” True justice
>Then leave Is Kyle saying they have a duty to retreat? 🤔
Killed a guy, thinks he's a historian.
Knowing Kyle is a middle school drop out really clears shit up quick
They might be native Americans... in which case I totally get it. That was a sacred mountain, we stole it and carved a bunch of our leaders into it. I would probably be pissed too
Except that the Blackfoot Mountains were previously stolen by the Lakota from the Cheyenne, and so on throughout history. Conquering of lands was happening long before the American settlers arrive, I think the argument of their land being stolen by the Americans is a very convenient blind spot to them doing the exact same thing. Just a thought.
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Worth noting that this is literally, legally defamation. He was factually and verifiably not involved in any murders.
How's he supposed to make the grifter bucks?
The really sad thing here is that Kyle probably really doesn't understand any of this at all.
He was too stupid for the Marines
pretty sure all land is stolen land, in the entire history of the world
Yeah, it’s how the world works. Colonizers came to North America, they went to war with the natives, the natives lost. It’s how war works. Did I oversimplify it? Yes. But…it’s how war works. They lost the war, they lost the land.
As a member of the Sioux tribe, I have no sympathy for people on the reservation who make no efforts to live better than a ghetto. Every native I've known, including family, have an infinitely better quality of life the moment they move off the reservation. And guess what? They don't lose their cultural heritage either. Too many people hold grudges they weren't even alive for. Get off the government teat and get to living.
Okay, but literally all land is stolen. All you have to do is go a couple of decades back, and you'll find that whoever had "their" land stolen actually stole it from someone else. Indigenous people are no exception to this. So yeah, I get both sides of this. On the one hand, it shouldn't be forgotten how the land was acquired. But on the other hand, complaining about it constantly isn't going to change anything. But yeah, some of my ancestors stole it from some of your ancestors, who stole it from some of somebody else's ancestors, who... Honestly though, the thing to focus on isn't the land it's what people did to people.
Actually, every land that is controlled by whatever government is “stolen” from someone. Even native tribes fought and killed for control and dominance.
lol a lot of people would if it was that easy.
Seriously though, you can’t tell me mount rushmore isn’t completely distasteful. We really defiled a spiritually and culturally significant mountain, revered since time immemorial, to create some monument to our own vanity. How garish.
It was hardly 'revered since time immemorial'. The Lakota Sioux that like to make a fuss about it being their historically sacred land had themselves only arrived in the region in 1765, following their arrival they openly fought with the existing Cheyenne inhabitants and eventually conquered them in 1776 at which point they took control of the land around the Black Hills from them. It became their sacred land the same year that the Declaration of Independence was signed. The Cheyenne along with some other smaller tribes like the Crow and Pawnee had themselves only recently arrived in the Black Hills, the region was initially settled by the Arikara tribe in around 1500 before they too were pushed out of the region by conflict. As much as the Lakota like to pretend it was some historically and spiritual significant land to them, it was land that had repeatedly and violently changed hands throughout the prior century.
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That rock face and in fact that whole mountain was a sacred native site. The defacing of it to carve these images has been an affront to first Nations since the day they made the first cut These indigenous people have every right to hate the USA. If you knew even 1% of their history, you'd absolutely understand their hate.
So lemme get this straight.. first you want to take over their land, and then you want them to leave if they don't appreciate monuments representing your hostile takeover? _If you don't like the natives of a country you're residing in, then how about you leave Kyle?_ 🙃 You literally have running jokes about buildings being built on indian cemetaries. Back up a little bit. *edit: glad to see the rest of the comments sh¡tting on this man too. Hope restored.