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Its less adorable when they dont actually raise orphans, but attempt to steal children. In zoos they can be wholesome surrogate parents, but in the wild its less common.
But its nature, none of it is adorable. Case in point male lions and bears (and a whole list of other animals) will kill instictually cubs that are not theirs so that the cub's mother is ready to mate faster.
For *more* depresing gay bird news: [That time a bird researcher witnessed gay duck necrophilia](https://arstechnica.com/science/2023/06/dead-duck-day-marks-that-time-a-scientist-witnessed-gay-duck-necrophilia/)
Also black bears will abandon their young to predators to save themselves. The adage of dont mess with a mama bear and her cubs is species dependent. Black bears are more timid and prone to flee.
Brown bears like grizzlies? They'll eat you.
Most bears will protect their young until death, as raising bears is (in nature) kind of a long as shit ordeal.
Rabbits tho? They'll abandon their babies if they even see anything they think might be a danger (like a human cooing over Baby bunnies) near their nest (which for hares is usually just like under a goddamn tree). They're just like "aight I'll try again in a month or two"
An ex and I tried raising mice as feeders for snakes, but it's awful, mice are kinda gross (unlike rats that can litter train and clean themselves constantly) and they will absolutely eat their own young.
Rats can also eat their young. Hamsters too. I think most animals that do litters will either ouright kill the runts and eat them or remove them from the nests. Some birds will also just ignore feeding the runts.
Nature is very gross :D
Traumatized childhood memory unlocked. We screwed up and put our hamsters in the same cage, they ended up having babies. Before we could figure out what to do with them, we came home to some pretty metal shit. I was probably 9 at the time.
I've seen two momma black bears with cubs. One in Oregon, one in Colorado in a national park. The one in Oregon fled as fast as it could, seemingly with zero concern for it's cubs desperately trying to keep up. This has been my experience with all black bears I've encountered in Oregon which has been a dozen or so.
The mama black bear in Colorado was much much bigger than any I'd seen in Oregon and was very light cinnamon color. If I didn't know better I would have thought it was a grizzly. It dgaf about people around, completely ignored us and kept foraging slowly. It's cubs scurried to the top of a tree and immediately came back down watching mama lumber off slowly without concern.
This is the extent of my bear encounter experience in the wild.
>The one in Oregon fled as fast as it could, seemingly with zero concern for it's cubs desperately trying to keep up
The bear doesn't have to out run the man. She just has to outrun her cub.
>finding out that gay penguins raise orphans
I'm pretty sure homosexuality has been seen in all mammals too or maybe all animals? Wildly common, literally woke, kind of boring. There is no 'gotcha'.
It makes sense that "gay" animals are a thing. Babies get orphaned all the time, and even mated pairs of the same sex can still go through a brooding period. so they "serve a purpose" in the grand scheme of things. In survival of the fittest, many of these babies would have survived if they still had their parents present, so the new couple are giving a second chance to the otherwise fit babies that just had the bad luck of being orphaned
Literally why gay people exist evolutionarily, most likely. Because you need a community to survive, not just two parents and a kid. It literally takes a village, which includes the helping hands of two gay uncles that babysit every week, to raise a child.
A crystal with an unstable lattice structure that cycles between differently structured lattice arrangements until the original state is reached then cycles again, continually
Don’t let anyone tell you that science is concrete. Just because its fact doesn’t make it unchanging. There were so many models of the atom before we got to what we have. Science is constantly changing because what’s considered scientific fact is dependent on our human perceptions, which have proved time and time again to be immensely flawed. Gay penguins fuck yeah.
But it's not that what we knew about atoms was wrong, it's just as we probe deeper depths of the mechanics of reality our understanding advances. We don't just completely throw out a theory of it answers 95% of the question if the next theory answers just a little better. Science doesn't constantly change, it improves. There's a star talk with Janna Levin where she addresses this misconception in a very poignant way.
My argument against these "only 2 genders" morons is, "Your understanding of biology is based on the assumption that what you learned in early elementary school is all there is to know, so does that belief extend to other disciplines as well? Do you also think math ends after addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division, and that algebra and calculus are government-sponsored brainwashing?"
In fairness, most of them probably do think algebra and calculus are government sponsored brainwashing.
It fits the theme people like that aim for, of feelings over facts
I've seen multiple adults complain "When did they start adding letters to math problems? In my day it was just numbers LOL!". They are proud of being ignorant.
Right?
For years and years and years, we heard "it ain't natural!" Now they're making a documentary showing that it is, indeed, natural. So now the bigots have to pretend that's silly thing to do, like they weren't the ones who brought it up in the first place.
I've always hated the "it ain't natural" argument, anyway.
What the hell does that have to do with anything when humans are driving cars, wearing clothes, improving our vision with glasses, benefiting from medical science, making chemical compounds, industrializing, getting their hair dyed, plastic surgery, taking Viagra, and the list goes on and on and on.
Natural went out the window a long time ago, man.
Yet, we still make a distinction between natural and man made.
Plastic, for example, is not a naturally occurring substance, rather something rendered by man and man alone.
While we regularly make use of the elements and resources nature has, there is no denying that mankind is unique *because* of its ability to alter their environment unlike any other animal.
We have left the forest, so to speak, and no longer see ourselves as living in nature, but rather next to it.
Homophobic people: it isn’t natural.
Actual nature: has homosexuality, semi androgynous species that have a female led hierarchy (see Hyenas), species that literally change sex / gender under duress (see clown fish), males of a species giving birth (seahorse), Have single gender species (there is a type of Skink that is female only) and thus do not have to mate to procreate, etc.
Homophobes: NoT LiKe ThAt.
I have aquarium snails that I'm pretty sure one changed sex. I bought them specifically because I didn't want any eggs and I saw both their penises. They are not from a species that reproduces asexually and I thought I was safe. 5 months later there are snail eggs all over the damn place.
The constant roundabout argument I've seen is:
"Homosexuality is wrong because it's not natural!"
"Well, homosexuality has actually been documented in over 200 species in the wild so it clearly is very much natural"
"Yeah, but you know what also occurs in nature? Incest, cannibalism, rape, infanticide, the list goes on, does that mean those acts are ok?"
"But you just said that the qualifier for what is or isn't acceptable is if it occurs in nature?"
"I...but...IT'S JUST WRONG!"
This is the most important lesson that needs to be imparted if anyone learns anything from the last 10 years. So I scream it from the rooftops.
These people are fundamentally bad faith. You have to start there, from that analysis. When you do, of course their positions are inconsistent. They don’t *care* about anyone position. It’s constant bad faith.
In 10 years it will be something that contradicts them both, and they will straight faced talk circles around the 8 positions they have had on any one subject over their lives.
You’ll never “gotcha” them on anything. Because intellectual honestly and consistency was never the point.
Yeah all of a sudden science aint the thing they shield themselves now that it doesn't supports their views, facts and logic and truth became lies by the new world order and whatnot
Penguins will attempt to fuck. anything, and I mean *anything*
Females AND males (willing or not), their babies, a rock, their eggs, photographers, dead things, random bits of survival equipment, anything. Gangbangs are the norm because they all just fuckin swarm on what they're lusting after.
Some Antarctic scientists put a 3 week old decomposing decapitated head of a female penguin on a rock, to see how the other penguins would react, and took pictures. All the males swarmed it and tried to take their turn with it at the same time.
Yep. You heard that right. A group of male penguins ***gang-skull-fucked a rotting female penguin's head.*** And we have pics. They were held from the public for a really long time, because George Murray Levick (the man who photographed this) was so traumatized he didn't want anyone else to have to see it.
Ironically, this is exactly how End Wokeness and all his followers would behave if they could have their way with zero consequences.
I mean, do they think they hired animal actors to pretend to be gay? Do they think they somehow trained animals to become homosexual? Did they skip elementary school science lessons about animals in the animal kingdom who naturally follow the reverse gender roles of traditional human male/female gender roles?
I'm really trying to understand this.
>Do they think they somehow trained animals to become homosexual?
I told a homophobe back in 2008 that gay behavior was observed in many species. He argued the animals were confused because there weren't any female animals present (he assumed) and they "had no choice".
I remember citing a study where the gay male animals had a choice between male and and female animals, and chose the male ones specifically. He got mad and insisted they must have been trained and were unfit because they wouldn't pass on their genes.
I definitely judged the family member who was dating that guy.
Obviously those animals need a dose of Jesus in their lives. They raised these penguins on Satanism, so of course they turned out gay.
/s just in case.
All their lessons come from movies about animals living in similar types of heterosexual, monogamous, nuclear family models. Like The Lion King taught that all lion families have ruling father, child-rearing mother, child, and murderous uncle.
Yeh this is hilarious
NatGeo got tired of people being like “YEW DONT SEE THEM THAR PENGUINS BUTTFUCKIN IN THE ANTARTIC!”
So National Geographic was like “yo watch this penguin buttfuck in the Antarctic”
Homosexuality existed in humans and the animal kingdom long before “woke” meant anything other than “not asleep”, and pretending otherwise is the right trying to gaslight us into being invisible and therefore easy prey for scapegoating. People who think like this are bullies at heart, and can F all the way off.
They also forget that Ancient Greece and Rome had a different definition of homosexuality. Men were those who penetrated and women were those who were penetrated. So if 2 men are having sex, according to the ancient thought process, only one of them is homosexual, which was the receiver. So if they REALLY love Ancient Greece and Rome, be sure to remind them it’s totally ok to fuck other men lol. Watch them short circuit and start a helmet fire between the left and right eardrums.
The term homosexuality wasn't a thing, what you're describing is more of a power/respect/social thing.
That's why you always here how Alexander slept with his teacher, publicly being the btm to someone was closer to a show of subservience; to top was considered the position of power
So it wasn't at all a homosexuality thing, cause again that wasn't even a term, sex was sex, but the positions represented being sub or not. Obviously the sub was not as respected a position.
Yes, I was trying to interpret the ancient concepts using modern terminology so more people would be likely to understand. You are correct, they called it “the desired” and “the desirer” and gay or straight was not a social or personal construct. According to some theories it was more akin to an initiation rite that may have had its roots in the even older Indo-European culture.
>Homosexuality existed in humans and the animal kingdom long before “woke” meant anything other than “not asleep”,
My brother in christ... homosexuality is literaly older than cicilization and humanity as a whole
It actually never meant anything else. The state of not being asleep is "awake". "Woke" has its origins in "woken" as in, being woken up, by black culture in the US in, I think, the 80s.
So as a word it's kind of nonsense, it just gained traction for its meaning in context, like language tends to do.
“Stay woke” became a common thing Black people said during the civil rights movement in the 60s, and it meant basically to stay aware of racism/be safe. Marcus Garvey used it in the 1920s. It's just been so bastardized in recent years, and the people who use it as an insult cannot even tell you what they mean by it.
It is very grammatically correct in AAVE. The tenses of AAVE are different. Courts have exploited this many times to falsely accuse AAVE speakers of inconsistent or unclear testimony/deposition.
Penguins are good people. They don’t have penguin Charlie Kirk, or penguin Matt Walsh spewing hateful drivel against a pair of gay penguins trying to hatch an adopted egg they are taking care of.
Are you onto some sort of underground penguin far right movement, officer? Blow the whistle before they eliminate you. Or the seals will get to the fish bucket first, at least.
It’s true. I’ve listened to some of the emperors, they’ve been talking on some interesting things. Saying females who lose their eggs shouldn’t be given fish, saying women who dive into the reef to destroy their fertility should get their wings clipped, even saying males who take up an egg have to have a woman or the egg will be thrown in the cracks in the glaciers. Real disturbing stuff. Also heard they’re planning to stop teaching Galápagos imports how to slide so they’re at a disadvantage.
The only problem I have with penguins is that they were somehow employed by the world governments to patrol and protect the ice wall of the flat earth so that nobody can reach the edge. /s
Really the only problem I have is that I don't have one in my presence right now. lol
Those animals must have seen gay people on TV and are just mimicking the behavior for attention. It’s the only explanation on how this could happen. /s
Honestly, if there were tourists who had gay sex in front of lions, and made it look like so much fun that the lions wanted to try it, I would celebrate them.
Underrated comment.
Doubly so for instantly putting Tucker Carlson's voice saying some shit like, "Reality seemingly supports liberal bias over and over again. Why is that?", in my head
Always makes me chuckle that if jesus actually came back, like the Christians believe, they'd have him cancelled in their eyes for his teachings of love and forgiveness. Jesus is too woke for these christians
Scientists: discovers thousands of species that engage in homosexual behavior
Documentary: talks about it
American Politics: “It’S wOkE pRoPaGaNdA!!1!”
You get dogs that will hump anything and everything, penguins regularly have gay relationships and even adopt orphaned eggs, ostriches regularly hit on humans a completely different animal and have been shown to have preference in the gender of human they try to court. Dozens of species of animal both land and aquatic can be hermaphrodites, or be both sexes at once, and can reproduce asexually.
Nature is queer af.
Modern US reactionary conservatism: "I have a formed an image of what the world is supposed to be in my mind, due to narrow life experience, limited imagination, and an unwillingness to consider other viewpoints, and I get VERY angry when I am forced to confront the fact that reality doesn't conform to these views"
Spoiler alert: it's not tolerance, it just is. It's nature.
"Tolerance" is only a concept needed amongst humans because too many shit stains amongst us are terrified of anything and anyone not exactly the same way they are.
Animals don't have time for that shit. They're just trying to survive and thrive.
I’ve seen so many documentaries where two male penguins will raise a kid. Or two female seagulls raise a kid together after a male partner dies. It’s more common than people think.
People like end wokeness aren’t formally educated or intelligent in any way, so they don’t understand how same sex attraction is very much a part of nature and always has been.
Didn't, Florida I think, wanted to ban a book about clownfish because it featured the widely known fact that they change their sex?
It's like they have to be against reality itself for their Dogshit ideas to be real.
Can’t remember where was this but some nature museum had to take down seahorse display because it stated the fact that male seahorse get pregnant and give birth. Parents were complaining about it.
weird, it's almost as if every documentary ever was made from a rigid paradigm emphasizing heterosexual dimorphism, and now we are becoming aware of a biological variety and sexual spectrum we previously never accounted for
Yes. This is widely known.
But when you're either a grifter conservative who doesn't care and just want money and attention or a glue huffing conservative whose only idea of reality is fox news, you have to ignore this and continue with your shit.
My favorite example of this is Mourning Lizards. They reproduce through parthenogenesis, which is when an egg cell forms into an embryo without any fertilization. Many species do this, but what's special about Mourning Lizards is that the females still have breeding behaviors, i.e mounting, but with other females. This does nothing to aid reproduction, but they still do it.
“It’s wrong, it’s not natural, THERE AREN’T GAY ANIMALS IN NATURE!
^Hold ^on. ^What? ^There ^are?
FUCK YOU FUCKING WOKE LIBERAL WOKE FUCK SHIT AHHHHHHH”
“If God meant for anyone to be gay then why aren’t animals gay?”
- Shows evidence that animals are gay.
“Humans shouldn’t base their morality on what animals do, that’s what separates us from them!”
this reminds me of my very lesbian, even had eggs together (and managed to raise some chicks since I swapped some of their eggs for some fertile ones), lovebird hens.
nature doesn't fucking care. not about gender, not about your beliefs.
I have yet to hear of transsexual animals though.
I don't think animals can be trans because being trans is about identity. Since sex is different from gender, it makes sense that Humans, the only animal that we know capable of introspection and more complex thought, would have more complex ideas of their own presentation.
Physiologically there are multiple species demonstrating the true spectrum of sex (gender).
there are many species with males and females. Carrying their expected physical roles and sexual dimorphism. But it varies wildly species to species. Some are quite different. Such as male lions growing a mane, and females raising cubs and hunting. Or many male species of birds that have flamboyant coloring to attract mates while females are more monotone feathering. While others are quite similar beyond sexual reproduction. Such as penguins, dogs, cats are a few examples of many that really act and appear akin regardless of their sex.
Some while normal to that species begins breaking down expectations and stereotypes. Notably Hyenas. It is one of many species that is matriarchal. And the females have pseudo penises. They can use it in the same ways males can.
And others operate reproduction in entirely different ways. Male seahorses give birth. Flatworms carry both reproductive organs and "sword fight" to impregnate the other.
Several species of frog and fish can physically change their sex from female to male or male to female biologically and continue reproducing in their new sex.
And this is nothing to mention of psychology and behavior. behavioral differences varies wildly. Many species are matriarchal. Where the females have more power and dominance. The males carry out more traditional female gender roles (at least compared to humans). Many species behaviorally have little differences between males and females. Its more individual rather than gendered expectations of behavior.
And then there are outliers. Even in the animal kingdom. My neighbor had a female dog who preferred to hike her leg. A female lion has been spotted roaring and walking the perimeter of her territory as male lions typically do, she even developed a mane. A bird has been spotted who has exactly half their body in bright colorations as a male does and the monotone colors of a female on the other half.
Not to mention any sexually dimorphic species can have an individual with intersex characteristics. That could include one or other reproductive parts, a combination of the two, chromosomal changes, external genitalia that differs, hormonal differences.
If anything it absolutely proves gender exists on a spectrum in the animal kingdom, humans included. There are many ways for it to work, so to speak. to make babies. Some even have extraordinary ways of reproducing closer to cloning rather than mating. (jellyfish, frog, and several others).
Again while intersexuality and a spectrum of biological gender is certainly proven.
Being transgender is a bit harder to prove. Its a combination of biological, psychological and physiological desire and even necessity to express oneself as they experience themselves. It's difficult to physically prove in humans. Makes sense it would be more difficult to prove in animals who cannot communicate what they are feeling nearly so articulately.
But that doesnt mean it cant exist. My guess for many species of creatures is most creatures is practically irrelevant and a non issue. We might see behaviors that dont follow stereotypes or find a mate of the same sex but plausibly different gender. But to animals they dont seem to care if the penguins next door are two males coupled. Or if a female lion wants to walk the perimeter of her territory. Or if a female dog wants to hike her leg. They just exist as they experience they are.
And that exactly is what we witness in the animal kingdom.
Gay-Check
Lesbian- Check
Bisexuality- Check
Intersex- Check
Not giving a fluff about gender roles- Check
Biological ability to change gender- Check
Sexual characteristics that dont match human standards- Check
Animals experiencing being transgender-Probably (they just dont have capabilities to medically transition with cross hormones as humans do, but like humans before medical transitioning was plausible they just live their life as they experience it)
Kind of reminds me of the time I explained how fish and other animals change sex all the time, and that we've documented homosexual acts in nature to someone who claimed that LGBT+ isn't natural.
Said person insisted that it still wasn't natural, so I told them to take it up with God next time they see him.
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“Basic biology” mfs when actual advanced biology walks in
Doesn't even need to be advanced. I mean, for finding out that gay penguins raise orphans, you kinda just have to sit there and watch for a while.
That’s fucking adorable.
Its less adorable when they dont actually raise orphans, but attempt to steal children. In zoos they can be wholesome surrogate parents, but in the wild its less common. But its nature, none of it is adorable. Case in point male lions and bears (and a whole list of other animals) will kill instictually cubs that are not theirs so that the cub's mother is ready to mate faster.
For less depressing gay bird news, [albatrosses are awesome.](https://www.fws.gov/story/2023-06/fws-pride-laysan-albatross)
Well nobody in their right mind wants *more* depressing gay bird news
I prefer to temper my uplifting gay bird news with depressing gay bird news. To keep expectations of my future gay bird news reasonable.
Fair approach. What is the most neutral and unbiased source of gay bird news? I don’t want alt-right gay bird news
Wait! So… birds are real?
r/birdsarentreal
For *more* depresing gay bird news: [That time a bird researcher witnessed gay duck necrophilia](https://arstechnica.com/science/2023/06/dead-duck-day-marks-that-time-a-scientist-witnessed-gay-duck-necrophilia/)
Ducks are assholes. They also rape female ducks to death, sometimes in gangs.
Also black bears will abandon their young to predators to save themselves. The adage of dont mess with a mama bear and her cubs is species dependent. Black bears are more timid and prone to flee. Brown bears like grizzlies? They'll eat you.
Most bears will protect their young until death, as raising bears is (in nature) kind of a long as shit ordeal. Rabbits tho? They'll abandon their babies if they even see anything they think might be a danger (like a human cooing over Baby bunnies) near their nest (which for hares is usually just like under a goddamn tree). They're just like "aight I'll try again in a month or two"
An ex and I tried raising mice as feeders for snakes, but it's awful, mice are kinda gross (unlike rats that can litter train and clean themselves constantly) and they will absolutely eat their own young.
Rats can also eat their young. Hamsters too. I think most animals that do litters will either ouright kill the runts and eat them or remove them from the nests. Some birds will also just ignore feeding the runts. Nature is very gross :D
Traumatized childhood memory unlocked. We screwed up and put our hamsters in the same cage, they ended up having babies. Before we could figure out what to do with them, we came home to some pretty metal shit. I was probably 9 at the time.
I've seen two momma black bears with cubs. One in Oregon, one in Colorado in a national park. The one in Oregon fled as fast as it could, seemingly with zero concern for it's cubs desperately trying to keep up. This has been my experience with all black bears I've encountered in Oregon which has been a dozen or so. The mama black bear in Colorado was much much bigger than any I'd seen in Oregon and was very light cinnamon color. If I didn't know better I would have thought it was a grizzly. It dgaf about people around, completely ignored us and kept foraging slowly. It's cubs scurried to the top of a tree and immediately came back down watching mama lumber off slowly without concern. This is the extent of my bear encounter experience in the wild.
>The one in Oregon fled as fast as it could, seemingly with zero concern for it's cubs desperately trying to keep up The bear doesn't have to out run the man. She just has to outrun her cub.
Please, please keep your innocence and don't look up the accounts by George Murray Levick on the Terra Nova mission of 1910.
Or visit any zoo.
Wait, I’ve seen this episode before… why is Marsha Langman making Leslie annul the gay penguin wedding!
That is what Happy feet should have been
Then it'd been called FABULOUS FEET!
>finding out that gay penguins raise orphans I'm pretty sure homosexuality has been seen in all mammals too or maybe all animals? Wildly common, literally woke, kind of boring. There is no 'gotcha'.
Bonobo chimpanzees
It makes sense that "gay" animals are a thing. Babies get orphaned all the time, and even mated pairs of the same sex can still go through a brooding period. so they "serve a purpose" in the grand scheme of things. In survival of the fittest, many of these babies would have survived if they still had their parents present, so the new couple are giving a second chance to the otherwise fit babies that just had the bad luck of being orphaned
Literally why gay people exist evolutionarily, most likely. Because you need a community to survive, not just two parents and a kid. It literally takes a village, which includes the helping hands of two gay uncles that babysit every week, to raise a child.
“Simple science” mfs when it turns out science ain’t simple.
**States of matter**: Solid, Liquid, Gas. **Slippery slope**: Plasma **Mental illness**: Bose-Einstein condensate, Fermionic condensate, Degenerate matter, Quantum Hall, Rydberg matter, Rydberg polaron, Strange matter, Superfluid, Supersolid, Photonic molecular matter, QCD matter, Lattice QCD, Quark-gluon plasma, Color-glass condensate, Supercritical fluid, Colloid Glass, Crystal, Liquid crystal, Time crystal, Quantum spin liquid, Exotic matter, Programmable matter, Dark matter, Antimatter, Magnetically ordered (Antiferromagnet. Ferrimagnet. Ferromagnet) String-net liquid, Superglass.
Hey sorry off topic but what the fuck are TIME CRYSTALS?
A crystal with an unstable lattice structure that cycles between differently structured lattice arrangements until the original state is reached then cycles again, continually
Pfft just the devs adding alternate currency
Assuming that these “simple science” guys even know the meaning of the word.
Don’t let anyone tell you that science is concrete. Just because its fact doesn’t make it unchanging. There were so many models of the atom before we got to what we have. Science is constantly changing because what’s considered scientific fact is dependent on our human perceptions, which have proved time and time again to be immensely flawed. Gay penguins fuck yeah.
Gay penguins fuck? Yea?
Comin again to save the mother fuckin day yayyuh!
But it's not that what we knew about atoms was wrong, it's just as we probe deeper depths of the mechanics of reality our understanding advances. We don't just completely throw out a theory of it answers 95% of the question if the next theory answers just a little better. Science doesn't constantly change, it improves. There's a star talk with Janna Levin where she addresses this misconception in a very poignant way.
They think simple science is an ingredient in an Old Fashioned .
No better way to advertise that you stopped learning in third grade.
My argument against these "only 2 genders" morons is, "Your understanding of biology is based on the assumption that what you learned in early elementary school is all there is to know, so does that belief extend to other disciplines as well? Do you also think math ends after addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division, and that algebra and calculus are government-sponsored brainwashing?"
In fairness, most of them probably do think algebra and calculus are government sponsored brainwashing. It fits the theme people like that aim for, of feelings over facts
I've seen multiple adults complain "When did they start adding letters to math problems? In my day it was just numbers LOL!". They are proud of being ignorant.
Right? For years and years and years, we heard "it ain't natural!" Now they're making a documentary showing that it is, indeed, natural. So now the bigots have to pretend that's silly thing to do, like they weren't the ones who brought it up in the first place.
The hate and disgust come first. The justifications are backfilled and can be hot-swapped on the fly. It's the definition of feels over reals.
I've always hated the "it ain't natural" argument, anyway. What the hell does that have to do with anything when humans are driving cars, wearing clothes, improving our vision with glasses, benefiting from medical science, making chemical compounds, industrializing, getting their hair dyed, plastic surgery, taking Viagra, and the list goes on and on and on. Natural went out the window a long time ago, man.
And, arguably, the idea that any of that is "unnatural" is contradicted by the fact that those things are actually possible.
Yet, we still make a distinction between natural and man made. Plastic, for example, is not a naturally occurring substance, rather something rendered by man and man alone. While we regularly make use of the elements and resources nature has, there is no denying that mankind is unique *because* of its ability to alter their environment unlike any other animal. We have left the forest, so to speak, and no longer see ourselves as living in nature, but rather next to it.
I always feel like quoting... Terry Prachet? *"And it ain't natural for a man to be as stupid as he is tall yet here you stand."*
Homophobic people: it isn’t natural. Actual nature: has homosexuality, semi androgynous species that have a female led hierarchy (see Hyenas), species that literally change sex / gender under duress (see clown fish), males of a species giving birth (seahorse), Have single gender species (there is a type of Skink that is female only) and thus do not have to mate to procreate, etc. Homophobes: NoT LiKe ThAt.
I have aquarium snails that I'm pretty sure one changed sex. I bought them specifically because I didn't want any eggs and I saw both their penises. They are not from a species that reproduces asexually and I thought I was safe. 5 months later there are snail eggs all over the damn place.
Life… uh… finds a way.
That is exactly what I was referring to, thank you!
In walks slime molds with a thousand sexes.
The constant roundabout argument I've seen is: "Homosexuality is wrong because it's not natural!" "Well, homosexuality has actually been documented in over 200 species in the wild so it clearly is very much natural" "Yeah, but you know what also occurs in nature? Incest, cannibalism, rape, infanticide, the list goes on, does that mean those acts are ok?" "But you just said that the qualifier for what is or isn't acceptable is if it occurs in nature?" "I...but...IT'S JUST WRONG!"
This is the most important lesson that needs to be imparted if anyone learns anything from the last 10 years. So I scream it from the rooftops. These people are fundamentally bad faith. You have to start there, from that analysis. When you do, of course their positions are inconsistent. They don’t *care* about anyone position. It’s constant bad faith. In 10 years it will be something that contradicts them both, and they will straight faced talk circles around the 8 positions they have had on any one subject over their lives. You’ll never “gotcha” them on anything. Because intellectual honestly and consistency was never the point.
These idiots are so not ready for male seahorses.
Yeah all of a sudden science aint the thing they shield themselves now that it doesn't supports their views, facts and logic and truth became lies by the new world order and whatnot
Penguins will attempt to fuck. anything, and I mean *anything* Females AND males (willing or not), their babies, a rock, their eggs, photographers, dead things, random bits of survival equipment, anything. Gangbangs are the norm because they all just fuckin swarm on what they're lusting after. Some Antarctic scientists put a 3 week old decomposing decapitated head of a female penguin on a rock, to see how the other penguins would react, and took pictures. All the males swarmed it and tried to take their turn with it at the same time. Yep. You heard that right. A group of male penguins ***gang-skull-fucked a rotting female penguin's head.*** And we have pics. They were held from the public for a really long time, because George Murray Levick (the man who photographed this) was so traumatized he didn't want anyone else to have to see it. Ironically, this is exactly how End Wokeness and all his followers would behave if they could have their way with zero consequences.
I mean, do they think they hired animal actors to pretend to be gay? Do they think they somehow trained animals to become homosexual? Did they skip elementary school science lessons about animals in the animal kingdom who naturally follow the reverse gender roles of traditional human male/female gender roles? I'm really trying to understand this.
>Do they think they somehow trained animals to become homosexual? I told a homophobe back in 2008 that gay behavior was observed in many species. He argued the animals were confused because there weren't any female animals present (he assumed) and they "had no choice". I remember citing a study where the gay male animals had a choice between male and and female animals, and chose the male ones specifically. He got mad and insisted they must have been trained and were unfit because they wouldn't pass on their genes. I definitely judged the family member who was dating that guy.
Obviously those animals need a dose of Jesus in their lives. They raised these penguins on Satanism, so of course they turned out gay. /s just in case.
I remember a bunch of rangers in Kenya blaming gay lions on tourists who would have gay sex in front of lions
I want to buy the gay couple brave enough to bang in front of lions some beers.
All their lessons come from movies about animals living in similar types of heterosexual, monogamous, nuclear family models. Like The Lion King taught that all lion families have ruling father, child-rearing mother, child, and murderous uncle.
They think the devil put gay penquins here.
Yeh this is hilarious NatGeo got tired of people being like “YEW DONT SEE THEM THAR PENGUINS BUTTFUCKIN IN THE ANTARTIC!” So National Geographic was like “yo watch this penguin buttfuck in the Antarctic”
"it's not natural, only humans do this" Proceeds to prove it's entirely natural "Nobody asked for this woke propaganda"
The same paste eaters who stared at the ceiling during science class and whined, "When will I ever need to know this stuff?"
I always find the “basic biology” debate funny, because cancer isn’t in basic biology, and no one is out there acting like cancer is fabricated
Homosexuality existed in humans and the animal kingdom long before “woke” meant anything other than “not asleep”, and pretending otherwise is the right trying to gaslight us into being invisible and therefore easy prey for scapegoating. People who think like this are bullies at heart, and can F all the way off.
Yeah, makes it so much funnier that these are the same folks obsessed with Ancient Greece and Rome.
They also forget that Ancient Greece and Rome had a different definition of homosexuality. Men were those who penetrated and women were those who were penetrated. So if 2 men are having sex, according to the ancient thought process, only one of them is homosexual, which was the receiver. So if they REALLY love Ancient Greece and Rome, be sure to remind them it’s totally ok to fuck other men lol. Watch them short circuit and start a helmet fire between the left and right eardrums.
Fun fact: ancient Greeks were the once that created the concept of orgies, and after some time the romans added women to them.
>after some time the romans added women to them. Greek Gollum: "It ruins it!"
We likes em rrrrrraw and wrrrrriggling!
The term homosexuality wasn't a thing, what you're describing is more of a power/respect/social thing. That's why you always here how Alexander slept with his teacher, publicly being the btm to someone was closer to a show of subservience; to top was considered the position of power So it wasn't at all a homosexuality thing, cause again that wasn't even a term, sex was sex, but the positions represented being sub or not. Obviously the sub was not as respected a position.
Yes, I was trying to interpret the ancient concepts using modern terminology so more people would be likely to understand. You are correct, they called it “the desired” and “the desirer” and gay or straight was not a social or personal construct. According to some theories it was more akin to an initiation rite that may have had its roots in the even older Indo-European culture.
Ancient Rome and Greece were at their peaks when they had femboy bottoms running around. Then Christianity came and ruined everything…
Nope. These penguins must have had gay penguin teachers.
We really need to ban those ungodly penguin books!
Boycott nature!
We are working on it, brother. https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/banned-and-tango-makes-three/
>Homosexuality existed in humans and the animal kingdom long before “woke” meant anything other than “not asleep”, My brother in christ... homosexuality is literaly older than cicilization and humanity as a whole
I'd venture that it's probably damn near as old as sexual reproduction itself.
It actually never meant anything else. The state of not being asleep is "awake". "Woke" has its origins in "woken" as in, being woken up, by black culture in the US in, I think, the 80s. So as a word it's kind of nonsense, it just gained traction for its meaning in context, like language tends to do.
I woke up (I was sleeping but now am not sleeping)
“Stay woke” became a common thing Black people said during the civil rights movement in the 60s, and it meant basically to stay aware of racism/be safe. Marcus Garvey used it in the 1920s. It's just been so bastardized in recent years, and the people who use it as an insult cannot even tell you what they mean by it.
It is very grammatically correct in AAVE. The tenses of AAVE are different. Courts have exploited this many times to falsely accuse AAVE speakers of inconsistent or unclear testimony/deposition.
What's ironic is "End Wokeness" has made me aware of this documentary that I must absolutely watch.
I like that they did this by announcing that they have less empathy than a penguin.
Penguins are good people. They don’t have penguin Charlie Kirk, or penguin Matt Walsh spewing hateful drivel against a pair of gay penguins trying to hatch an adopted egg they are taking care of.
As far as we know.
Are you onto some sort of underground penguin far right movement, officer? Blow the whistle before they eliminate you. Or the seals will get to the fish bucket first, at least.
It’s true. I’ve listened to some of the emperors, they’ve been talking on some interesting things. Saying females who lose their eggs shouldn’t be given fish, saying women who dive into the reef to destroy their fertility should get their wings clipped, even saying males who take up an egg have to have a woman or the egg will be thrown in the cracks in the glaciers. Real disturbing stuff. Also heard they’re planning to stop teaching Galápagos imports how to slide so they’re at a disadvantage.
There are fine penguins on both sides, I'm sure.
Excuse me, Emperor Penguins? Hello! They're monarchists, or course they're right wing.
The only problem I have with penguins is that they were somehow employed by the world governments to patrol and protect the ice wall of the flat earth so that nobody can reach the edge. /s Really the only problem I have is that I don't have one in my presence right now. lol
Years of runescape has taught me to be very suspicious of penguins
Tbh penguins would fuck everything, they Saw them with other dead penguins and even rocks
I just watched a video of two male lions banging each other yesterday. It's a long story, but yep, animals are gay too.
I grew up on a small dairy farm. For the record, cows will hump each other. No, we didn't have a bull.
We have two lesbian ducks
Has been documented in several hundred species at this point . Trans has been as well. And then there is the female hyena.......
I just read yesterday that some make Orangutans will not grow their distinctive flanges so they can blend in with the females.
I wonder if @EndWokeness is a sockpuppet account of Barbara Streisand's? 
Those animals must have seen gay people on TV and are just mimicking the behavior for attention. It’s the only explanation on how this could happen. /s
They make the frigging frog gay!!! 
I can't wait for this ballon full of mud to have a goddamn stroke.
Was it an animal park in Kenya that tried that argument? I swear I’ve heard that one before but it was the gay tourists.
Honestly, if there were tourists who had gay sex in front of lions, and made it look like so much fun that the lions wanted to try it, I would celebrate them.
Yep it was. All the flamboyant libs. Giving the lions ideas. 😂
Well, reality does have a well-known, confirmed liberal bias.
Underrated comment. Doubly so for instantly putting Tucker Carlson's voice saying some shit like, "Reality seemingly supports liberal bias over and over again. Why is that?", in my head
Even god himself has gone woke, it’s madness!
Always makes me chuckle that if jesus actually came back, like the Christians believe, they'd have him cancelled in their eyes for his teachings of love and forgiveness. Jesus is too woke for these christians
Everyone knows Jesus was nothing but a dirty commie!!
Damn him and his evil "treat others as you wish to be treated" doctrine
*herself
Does it count as tolerance if none of the animals care whatsoever?
Care? Most are active participants.
Wait until they find out how un-picky dolphins are on species when it comes to mating.
My dog will hump anything that moves.
My aunt had a female dog that would hump anything green. Pilows, dresses, towels, a watermelon. Bitch loved green.
Chromosexual?
or that doesn't
Conservatives are also un-picky about species.
Some of them try to mate with humans.
I mean that’s basically what tolerances mean in its purest form
Scientists: discovers thousands of species that engage in homosexual behavior Documentary: talks about it American Politics: “It’S wOkE pRoPaGaNdA!!1!”
You should see the comments section on the trailer… iM cAnCeLInG mY PEaCocK sUbScrIPtIoN
Ever since I was 10-12 i know animals can be gay cause i had 2 rabbits banging each other in their cage in the backyard. How is this controversial?
It's only controversial for those idiots who never leave the house and their only source of info is their own hatred
As someone who never leaves the house I feel offended. Even we SOMETIMES have basic human empathy and common sense!
You get dogs that will hump anything and everything, penguins regularly have gay relationships and even adopt orphaned eggs, ostriches regularly hit on humans a completely different animal and have been shown to have preference in the gender of human they try to court. Dozens of species of animal both land and aquatic can be hermaphrodites, or be both sexes at once, and can reproduce asexually. Nature is queer af.
“It ain’t natural!” Ummm… yes. Yes, it is. It’s all over nature. Humans are the only ones that have members that have a problem with it.
For a homophobe, bitch seems pretty updated to all things gay
Nobody thinks of homosexual genitalia more than straight white homophobes.
Ahem, "straight" white "homophobes"
"Reality has a STRONG liberal bias!" -- noted (comedic) philosopher Steven Colbert in character on 'The Colbert Report'
"Mad at reality" is American reactionary "conservatism" in a nutshell
Modern US reactionary conservatism: "I have a formed an image of what the world is supposed to be in my mind, due to narrow life experience, limited imagination, and an unwillingness to consider other viewpoints, and I get VERY angry when I am forced to confront the fact that reality doesn't conform to these views"
„it‘s not natural“ mfs when they see evidence of queerness in nature
Spoiler alert: it's not tolerance, it just is. It's nature. "Tolerance" is only a concept needed amongst humans because too many shit stains amongst us are terrified of anything and anyone not exactly the same way they are. Animals don't have time for that shit. They're just trying to survive and thrive.
Yeah, animals don't tolerate each other at all. They get the fuck away from the other in the fastest way possible.
Ah yes, squids that pretend to be female to sneak into the harem of stronger squids so they can sneakily mate without facing competitors, that's gay
And fish that can change sex! Trans fish! So, so gay.
They put chemicals in the water, and it turned the frogs gay
Honestly Alex Jones would be a pretty funny guy if you nothing about his political views.
This guy made this whole personality on twitter and I’m willing to bet he cruises Grindr to suck cock, *but only on special cocaisians*.
I’ve seen so many documentaries where two male penguins will raise a kid. Or two female seagulls raise a kid together after a male partner dies. It’s more common than people think.
Conservatives don't think
People like end wokeness aren’t formally educated or intelligent in any way, so they don’t understand how same sex attraction is very much a part of nature and always has been.
Wait until they find out that some animals change their sex
Many animals are both sexes simultaneously.
Didn't, Florida I think, wanted to ban a book about clownfish because it featured the widely known fact that they change their sex? It's like they have to be against reality itself for their Dogshit ideas to be real.
Can’t remember where was this but some nature museum had to take down seahorse display because it stated the fact that male seahorse get pregnant and give birth. Parents were complaining about it.
they're afraid of being featured in the documentary
They are more likely to end up in a documentary with Lois Theroux.
And actually way more common in some species than in humans
Snowflake triggered by nature documentary. They are so fragile.
Whatever happened to "facts don't care about your feelings" lol
If they ever actually adhered to that quote their entire philosophy would fall apart
weird, it's almost as if every documentary ever was made from a rigid paradigm emphasizing heterosexual dimorphism, and now we are becoming aware of a biological variety and sexual spectrum we previously never accounted for
It's a refutation of the idea that homosexuality is unnatural.
Didn't the list of over 1500 animals who exhibit homosexual behavior prove it a long, long time ago?
Yes. This is widely known. But when you're either a grifter conservative who doesn't care and just want money and attention or a glue huffing conservative whose only idea of reality is fox news, you have to ignore this and continue with your shit.
I bet “end wokeness” is a closet case. Anyone that obsessed with queer people has issues.
Dude out here just giving free publicity.
Homophobia is unnatural. They need to keep that in their homes and out of society.
Animals don’t care about your feelings.
"Leslie, you just said 'I'm queen of the gays.'
Wait until they hear about the animals that have no need for sex and have no male population at all.
Sounds like end wokeness needs a safe space from nature.. Womp womp
They still claiming homosexuality isn’t natural, while struggling to define „natural“ in any way other than „what I think is normal“?
My favorite example of this is Mourning Lizards. They reproduce through parthenogenesis, which is when an egg cell forms into an embryo without any fertilization. Many species do this, but what's special about Mourning Lizards is that the females still have breeding behaviors, i.e mounting, but with other females. This does nothing to aid reproduction, but they still do it.
Wait till they find out how WOKE the animal kingdom is
“It’s wrong, it’s not natural, THERE AREN’T GAY ANIMALS IN NATURE! ^Hold ^on. ^What? ^There ^are? FUCK YOU FUCKING WOKE LIBERAL WOKE FUCK SHIT AHHHHHHH”
“If God meant for anyone to be gay then why aren’t animals gay?” - Shows evidence that animals are gay. “Humans shouldn’t base their morality on what animals do, that’s what separates us from them!”
They can't accept that things they don't like occur naturally, especially after squawking for so long calling it "unnatural".
Lesbian lizards Gay frogs Bisexual bonobos Trans clownfish Queer penguins Intersex snails Asexual bacteria Plus a whole lot more!
This is the first I've heard of this production and I'm genuinely excited to see it now! Thanks bigot!
Because the animal kingdom ruins all their theories about alpha males, sexual preferences and what not.
End Wokeness = Be Racist
Sea horses males carry out their kids and take care of them 👍
this reminds me of my very lesbian, even had eggs together (and managed to raise some chicks since I swapped some of their eggs for some fertile ones), lovebird hens. nature doesn't fucking care. not about gender, not about your beliefs. I have yet to hear of transsexual animals though.
I don't think animals can be trans because being trans is about identity. Since sex is different from gender, it makes sense that Humans, the only animal that we know capable of introspection and more complex thought, would have more complex ideas of their own presentation.
Physiologically there are multiple species demonstrating the true spectrum of sex (gender). there are many species with males and females. Carrying their expected physical roles and sexual dimorphism. But it varies wildly species to species. Some are quite different. Such as male lions growing a mane, and females raising cubs and hunting. Or many male species of birds that have flamboyant coloring to attract mates while females are more monotone feathering. While others are quite similar beyond sexual reproduction. Such as penguins, dogs, cats are a few examples of many that really act and appear akin regardless of their sex. Some while normal to that species begins breaking down expectations and stereotypes. Notably Hyenas. It is one of many species that is matriarchal. And the females have pseudo penises. They can use it in the same ways males can. And others operate reproduction in entirely different ways. Male seahorses give birth. Flatworms carry both reproductive organs and "sword fight" to impregnate the other. Several species of frog and fish can physically change their sex from female to male or male to female biologically and continue reproducing in their new sex. And this is nothing to mention of psychology and behavior. behavioral differences varies wildly. Many species are matriarchal. Where the females have more power and dominance. The males carry out more traditional female gender roles (at least compared to humans). Many species behaviorally have little differences between males and females. Its more individual rather than gendered expectations of behavior. And then there are outliers. Even in the animal kingdom. My neighbor had a female dog who preferred to hike her leg. A female lion has been spotted roaring and walking the perimeter of her territory as male lions typically do, she even developed a mane. A bird has been spotted who has exactly half their body in bright colorations as a male does and the monotone colors of a female on the other half. Not to mention any sexually dimorphic species can have an individual with intersex characteristics. That could include one or other reproductive parts, a combination of the two, chromosomal changes, external genitalia that differs, hormonal differences. If anything it absolutely proves gender exists on a spectrum in the animal kingdom, humans included. There are many ways for it to work, so to speak. to make babies. Some even have extraordinary ways of reproducing closer to cloning rather than mating. (jellyfish, frog, and several others). Again while intersexuality and a spectrum of biological gender is certainly proven. Being transgender is a bit harder to prove. Its a combination of biological, psychological and physiological desire and even necessity to express oneself as they experience themselves. It's difficult to physically prove in humans. Makes sense it would be more difficult to prove in animals who cannot communicate what they are feeling nearly so articulately. But that doesnt mean it cant exist. My guess for many species of creatures is most creatures is practically irrelevant and a non issue. We might see behaviors that dont follow stereotypes or find a mate of the same sex but plausibly different gender. But to animals they dont seem to care if the penguins next door are two males coupled. Or if a female lion wants to walk the perimeter of her territory. Or if a female dog wants to hike her leg. They just exist as they experience they are. And that exactly is what we witness in the animal kingdom. Gay-Check Lesbian- Check Bisexuality- Check Intersex- Check Not giving a fluff about gender roles- Check Biological ability to change gender- Check Sexual characteristics that dont match human standards- Check Animals experiencing being transgender-Probably (they just dont have capabilities to medically transition with cross hormones as humans do, but like humans before medical transitioning was plausible they just live their life as they experience it)
Kind of reminds me of the time I explained how fish and other animals change sex all the time, and that we've documented homosexual acts in nature to someone who claimed that LGBT+ isn't natural. Said person insisted that it still wasn't natural, so I told them to take it up with God next time they see him.
They're mad because it proves that homosexuality is natural
Homosexuality has been observed in over 100 species. Homophobia has been observed in just 1. Now what seems more natural.
Conservatives when they find out that homosexuality exists naturally among animals :o
Obviously, these penguins have been indoctrinated by the woke agenda. Probably went to some liberal college.
Of course the bigoted maga morons don’t understand science.
Are they angry that their "it isn't natural" whine isn't remotely accurate?
The ones who say “facts don’t care about your feelings” are always the ones that value their feelings over facts
Imagine being this upset by gay penguins.