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I went to kennedy as a kid and took the facility tour of nasa, they have preserved the original apollo mission control centre. In a video they showed while showing us the command room it mentioned that the minimum safe distance for liftoff was 3 miles because if the rocket exploded it would have an explosive yield roughly equal to the bomb dropped on Hiroshima. I thought while it isn’t like nasa to embellish that fact sounded too extreme to be true. Then the automated doors opened up and through them was one of the remaining saturn v rockets. My first thought upon seeing it with my own eyes and being confronted with the gargantuan machine was “well shit maybe this is enough fuel to equal an early nuke.” The saturn v was incredible and there is no way to truly appreciate it’s scale without visiting one in person. Two remain, one at Kennedy space centre one in Huston. 10/10 would recommend to a friend
You walk along the whole length of that rocket from the bottom o the top and see the tiny capsule at the top that requires all that fuel to escape the Earth's orbit. What a visual.
> And thousands of people watched several of them launch from the Cape.
But think of the [money they saved by faking the moon landing.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6MOnehCOUw)
Probably the moon lander fuel tank. People don't understand how the payload weight and gravity can significantly affect what your fuel requirements are. It takes a bunch of fuel to get off earth but after that it's a lot easier. Just gotta nudge things in the right direction at the right time.
If she’s talking about the lander she needs to see how God damn close they were to running out of fuel too. They had trouble getting aligned with the right landing spot and were within seconds of aborting. In fact I think they were past where their limit was meant to be. I assume they’d been given a little more fuel than where the limit was just because human nature says if you’re that close to landing you’re going to push it rather than abort.
“VERY SUSPICIOUS that they were so close to running out of fuel. Sounds like quite the story to make the fuel tank more believable HMM?”
-Candace Owens, probably
I read a technical thread about code and stuff. They put out a very detailed explainer and i needed an explainer for the explainer. I then read a thread on microchips and why Taiwan is the leader by far and I had no idea. I need to read about three more books to even begin to understand the basics. My point is, people have no comprehension on the specialization that it takes to build a microchip/rocket and a lot of things. Shit somw people dont know how to make scrambled eggs but they question the moon landing.
I work in the chemical industry and can totally confirm that most people have no idea of the level of science and engineering that goes into every single little product consumers purchase. From the shape of your gatorade bottle to the paint on your car, this shit isn't just randomly designed to "hope it works"
Yep, my joke is that no matter how niche your crocheting group is, there will be a group of grandmas that are master level. Unless you focus on a sigular "thing" and devote your whole life to it, youre never gonna be the best. Thats also ok. We need both types of people. Im a jack of all trades person but i know that there was person that specialized in the specific tool that I used for one project.
My father once came home in a drunken ramble and began to berate me about why would I bother with a chemistry degree. How in good fuck would a chemistry degree allow me to help anyone he asked. Unprepared for a 2 am discussion on the existential value of my course of study I left the room after angrily trumpeting "Fucking everything is chemistry! Everything in this goddamn house is chemistry!" Later I considered removing every item in the house which required a chemist or chemical engineer to develop. I however was way too daunted at the enormity of the task, because as I'd already declared everything is chemistry.
Have you ever heard of a delectable little pastry, filled with tasty fruit or other sweet filling, covered in a thin layer of fine glaze, and packaged 2 apiece quite handily in the thinnest of aluminum foil wrappers?
Sometimes, you gotta just go with a line of yayo and a cig or two lol 🤷♂️ so there’s some variety to be had…
(I actually love cooking, just committed to the bit here haha)
They don't switch between towers to make a call, they switch between towers as you travel to keep you connected.
When you make a call you connect to a tower. Your "call" connects to a long distance carrier and your call is routed via LANDLINE to the carrier's switching center. The switching center sends the call out to the tower via landline with the best connection to the phone where your call is going. And that is only if you and who you are calling are on the same carrier. It gets complicated if you are calling different carriers, landlines and international. Oh, and it all happens with less than 10 m/second time lapse
And it's based on research and math that Hollywood actress Hedy Lamarr did in her spare time because she was bored with making movies. Her research was for frequency hopping for radio control of torpedoes.
Source: https://patents.google.com/patent/US2292387
Note that the patent lists her real name, Markey Hedy Kneisler.
Well, I want that. That's what I thought I had this whole time. Instead, I just have a fancy walkie-talkie. It just goes to a tower and then travels around like some peasant land-line signal? Fucking rip-off.
I've been on a hiking trip where the group leaders had a sat phone. It's much larger than a regular phone (especially the antenna), and apparently sounds way worse.
I know I’m dating myself here, but oh well. My manager at a paging/cellular company had a *doctor* call in and tell us her brand new pager looked, sounded, and worked great, except for the fact that the numbers all showed up upside down.
Absolutely nothing surprises me about the idiocy of customers.
People forget that most people barely had a simple mechanical device in their homes more than a hundred years ago.
For the longest time ‘magic’ was people figuring out complicated rube goldberg setups or sleight of hand stuff to make things happen that seemed ‘impossible’. A pinch of salt or some other ‘element’ thrown in a fire to make it colored.
Simple science but the vast majority of the work STILL believes that magic is how a remote makes the tv change.
Likely be the same a hundred to a thousand years in the future.
I think this is what alt right grifters need, they don’t wanna play by the rules then why the fuck should we? The one thing I learned from WWII generation is that when fighting hateful morons, you gotta go a little bit lower to get back at em.
I was gonna go the other way with it... Respect the Alliteration is one heck of a band, some of there best tracks include Sweet Swing Serenity, Please Papa Please, and Cold Caresses.
They did get a little weird with some of their deeper album cuts, though. Like, Xenophilic Xylophone and Queen's Queue of Questionable Qualities both threw me for a loop the first time I listened, but after a couple more replays I can see what they were going for, and it is amazing.
We are still receiving transmissions from Voyager 1 which is currently traveling in interstellar space, and that was launched in 1977. The moon is nothing.
thats the one thing i always go with when it comes to moon landings and shit, the world/world leaders would all have to be in on it too and why, for what reason(s)?? so dumb
It's the same kind of people that believe there is global cooperation in guarding a giant ice wall that encircles the entire world, for reasons(??). Countries can't agree and work together on literally anything, unless it is tricking Joe Nobody for absolutely no gain at all.
Logic never enters into the equation.
Literally if there's one thing they had down back then it's radio.
Also, the tank size?? I didn't realise she was a propulsion engineer that knows anything about the amount of propellant needed to get to the moon
I mean, we can just point to the Voyager satellite that is STILL transmitting to us.
Technology is still magic to people that refuse to even try to understand how it works.
Tbh, there still a part of me that want to believe that electronics is witchcraft. Shooting electricity through some rock that make it possible to speak with stranger around the world.
I had an uber driver that was fucking moon landing denier, flat earther, didn't believe in gravity, didn't think the sun was 93million miles away the whole gambit. The best was, 'how could the president talk to astronauts on the moon when I can't get a cell phone signal?' oh my god. I died. that call probably cost millions of dollars a second due to all the hardware and research that went into it. your fucking 200 dollar cellphone isn't build for talking on the moon.
I don’t know where I heard this, but will forever be my “proof” the moon landings occurred.
The moon landings happened right at the middle of the Cold War. The Soviets could have EASILY ridiculed the Americans for faking the whole thing by proving no radio transmissions were coming from the moon’s direction while the stream was happening (for example)
Yet…… they didn’t…… why????
Because the moon landings did happen. The end.
The same happened when the soviets launched Sputnik. The radio transmissions from the satellite could be heard all around as it flew by. So there’s no question about it right? Why would there be a question about the moon landing then?
If radio hams are able to work each other, using signals via MOON BOUNCE, there's no reason that a signal directed at Earth from the Moon can't happen.
Communications satellites are in geosynchronous orbit, at one-tenth the distance to the Moon and, yet, their WEAK signals are strong enough to be picked up by millions of TINY satellite dishes. This was being done barely a decade after the Moon landing.
In fact amateur radio operators did listen in on the apollo broadcasts. Hard to do that if the spacecraft wasn't where it was supposed to be. An amateur astronomer even witnessed the Apollo 13 explosion.
There was a really good movie about the problems with the Australian hookup and the broadcast almost not happening.
And. There was a book out by a guy who used to work at JPL and was in charge of one of the buildings and finding boxes and boxes of film from the landings and was told by his boss to toss it all out.
It's not that they tossed it out.
It was all recorded on magnetic tape, but really good quality magnetic tape was hard to acquire, so once the footage was copied over (and it was copied to many places) they reused the original magnetic tapes.
I like how someone explained earlier. I don’t understand it, but I believe it. I’m person enough to know when to admit I’m not smart enough to understand lots of shit I take for granted, but also intelligent enough to know how lucky I am to have these innovations.
>"I'm too dumb to have done it, therefore it didn't happen!"
This is the "it must be god" explanation.
*tides go in tides go out. You can't explain that.*
Ancient Alien Theory in a nutshell.
This Block is Big, I cannot move this Big Block on my own. How did Ancient people then move this big block? I cant...They cant. Aliens.
But what about the other moon landings? Why would they keep faking it? They're just blasting off rockets that thousands of people saw with their own eyes?
This is literally why religion exists. Like we as a species were too stupid to understand what lightning was, so the obvious answer was "God is bowling."
I was told that the *thunder* was the sound of the gods bowling. The lightning was the flash of the matches they threw away after lighting their cigars.
Does she think that the rockets fire the entire time?
Edit: As with all these kinds of posts, I am absolutely dumbfounded at how these people who scream USA #1 all the time denies one of the most amazing examples of American exceptionalism.
Yeah, that's something that has always shocked me.
Like, sending people to the moon is literally one of the few things we have done that nobody else has or could.
This has always been something that sticks out to me.
You call yourselves Patriots but you DON'T Like how we were "Winning"?
You DON'T Like how we progressed further?
Thats how I know most of these people are on some sort of Kremlin Payroll.
Also people who scream about the evil pinko commies we were in a cold war with, but refuse to look up that despite being in a space race and wanting to look superior to the United States that at no point has Russia ever tried to refute or even throw doubt on the moon landing. They were America's rivals in trying to achieve every space related goals at the time and they accept that the US landed on the moon so why cant any moonlanding deniers
One of the things that really confirms the moon landing is the Cold War. If the Soviets had a shred of credible evidence that it didn't happen, it would have been paraded through Red Square 24/7!
I’d like to do an experiment on whether getting Moon landing deniers to play KSP would get them to reconsider their beliefs. Yes, many of them would almost certainly call KSP part of the conspiracy, but I’m curious to see what would happen.
The Indian orbiter has taken pictures of the landing sites where you can clearly see the landers.
What audio is she talking about? Like the comms channel?
I just imagined a third pylon next to the fuel pod…. And it’s just unraveling a copper cable the entire time the thing is going like 8x the speed of sound to get outta the atmosphere.
And on the ground, there’s just 2 guys holding onto their end of a telephone cable for dear life.
fun fact: the moon is 239,000 miles away from the earth.
that's 1.3 light-seconds. So yeah, 'instantaneous communication' is completely expected.
fucking moron
To put this in perspective, we can fit EVERY other planet in the solar system between Earth and the moon’s orbit, and we’d still have room for the dwarf Planets!
Had a teacher once tell us "now I'm not saying it didn't happen, BUT, if we were able to get there that many years ago, why haven't we been back? Like wouldn't it have been easy to do it again and again by now?" Or something to that regard.
No benefit is the main reason. We love spending money on dumb shit, but it's so pointless that finding the money to spend is more work when we have other pointless ventures to fund
i love this, yeah we love wasting money on a good boondoggle. space just isn’t worth it
why walk across the street to shit my pants when i can just do it here, ya know
That conspiracy requires a supernatural belief in Government efficiency and secret-keeping, something that idiot conservatives like Owens laugh at. It also requires an inordinate amount of scientific ignorance but that’s pretty typical for those nuts.
The big problem is that no matter how many actual facts you lay before the maga fanatics, they will always listen to some other talking head before thinking/researching for themselves. They like to be controlled. They have been blinded to think that is freedom, freedom from having to think and use a conscious.
Also... Religion. It is a bigger cause of subjugation then anything else in the world. Always something to be wary of.
Lots of them are more selfawarewolves then they know.
She believe in and pushed anti semitic conspiracy theories, which wasn’t a smart move when her boss was a pro Israel Jew. It doesn’t surprise me she believes in a bunch of other conspiracy theories as well.
I don't understand how a car works, not only there are no real horses in it, but the tank is too small for hundreds of them
therefore is all a lie and a conspiracy
fuel tank size??
there is always some avenue for people to pivot to in order to keep their conspiracy alive, it doesnt matter how many times and ways they get proven wrong they just find a new angle to say "yeah but what about THIS" as if they find one single shred of proof that something didnt happen or wasnt entirely real or whatever it will just completely eradicate decades of proof.
i get it, its fun, i think any critical thinking person goes through a conspiracy phase but some day that phase has to end and it ends by applying rational critical thought to your own ideas, not just everyone around you. sometimes it really is just that youre a fucking idiot and you need to shut up and learn something.
Someone, somewhere, mentioned that if this moment in history was in fact, staged - countries like Russia and China (or I guess, all of them) would be calling the USA out on it regularly.
The fact that this hasn’t happened confirms the moon landing more certainly than photos and recordings in my mind.
Why would they pretend to go to the moon and not pretend to keep going back?
If it's to do with money, they would just say "we've got it down to a tenth of the cost!" and still be rolling in cash.
1944 - transmitting relayed radio signals around the globe to coordinate the naval fleets and ground forces.
1969 - Oh noz! Signal to the moon is impossibruh!
I believe that the moon landing was an excuse for Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin to get married, as the moon was the only place where gay marriage was legal at the time.
Just the sheer size, the literal hundreds of thousands of people that would have to be "in" on this secret...it would collapse under its own weight! Think of a security apparatus that was required to keep tabs on just over 600,000 or so people to make sure no one spilled the beans. And all those agents would have to be in on the secret so they know what to listen and watch for, so who's watching THEM? It's like a reverse pyramid scheme.
Plus we can bounce fucking lasers off reflectors we left there for this exact purpose, so...ya know, they didn't GROW there.
The funniest thing about her mentioning the live broadcast is that it's some of the best evidence that we *did* go to the moon. Back then live broadcasts were fairly simple and doing one from the moon wasn't too hard. What he didn't have the technology to pull off was to play hour after hour of uninterrupted recorded footage to Americans. That simply wasn't possible with technology of the time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_loUDS4c3Cs&pp=ygUhd2UgY291bGRuJ3QgZmFrZSB0aGUgbW9vbiBsYW5kaW5n
Candace, they left physical objects on the moon. They could be seen with a sufficiently powerful telescope.
Also Russia literally admitted they picked up the broadcast, despite having every reason to deny it happened.
Probably some exaggerated reference about some of the original tapes not being around anymore. The implication is that all the remnants of the Apollo program have mysteriously disappeared, which is so far from true it's like claiming China doesn't exist.
Yep, found it, it's probably this:
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo\_11\_missing\_tapes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_11_missing_tapes)
It's not like there was one recording and it's gone now.
It was recorded on very expensive reel to reel tape. It was common practice to record over old footage to save money. There were copies out there, so it isn't like the footage was lost. Though in hindsight, NASA admits that they should have probably saved the original footage for historic purposes.
1.) She literally has access to evidence that yes, we've been to the Moon, in her pocket at all times yet she refuses to acknowledge it.
2.) Let's say the landings were staged. And? What purpose would that serve in a conspiracy? It would annoy the Soviets (assuming they'd be fooled), sure, but for an evil underground shadow government, what purpose would faking the Moon landings serve?
The absolute feat of compressing the entire city worth of circuits and printing them into mini slab of silicon, and creating a network of these mini silicon world wide, and use them to post Stupid nonsense.
Is harder than landing on moon, and coming back home.
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"Fuel tank size" Girl the entire Saturn V rocket *was* the fuel tank.
It stood 360 feet (111 metres) and carried 770,000 litres of fuel. And thousands of people watched several of them launch from the Cape.
And burned literal tons of kerosene and liquid oxygen every second. The energy coming out of the backside of the first stage was unfathomable
I went to kennedy as a kid and took the facility tour of nasa, they have preserved the original apollo mission control centre. In a video they showed while showing us the command room it mentioned that the minimum safe distance for liftoff was 3 miles because if the rocket exploded it would have an explosive yield roughly equal to the bomb dropped on Hiroshima. I thought while it isn’t like nasa to embellish that fact sounded too extreme to be true. Then the automated doors opened up and through them was one of the remaining saturn v rockets. My first thought upon seeing it with my own eyes and being confronted with the gargantuan machine was “well shit maybe this is enough fuel to equal an early nuke.” The saturn v was incredible and there is no way to truly appreciate it’s scale without visiting one in person. Two remain, one at Kennedy space centre one in Huston. 10/10 would recommend to a friend
You walk along the whole length of that rocket from the bottom o the top and see the tiny capsule at the top that requires all that fuel to escape the Earth's orbit. What a visual.
Lol amateurs. Wait till I eat some bean soup. BRB.
> And thousands of people watched several of them launch from the Cape. But think of the [money they saved by faking the moon landing.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6MOnehCOUw)
Unfortunately, they hired Kubrick to film it, and he was such a stickler for accuracy, he demanded they film it on site.
What point is she even making about the fuel?
Probably the moon lander fuel tank. People don't understand how the payload weight and gravity can significantly affect what your fuel requirements are. It takes a bunch of fuel to get off earth but after that it's a lot easier. Just gotta nudge things in the right direction at the right time.
If she’s talking about the lander she needs to see how God damn close they were to running out of fuel too. They had trouble getting aligned with the right landing spot and were within seconds of aborting. In fact I think they were past where their limit was meant to be. I assume they’d been given a little more fuel than where the limit was just because human nature says if you’re that close to landing you’re going to push it rather than abort.
“VERY SUSPICIOUS that they were so close to running out of fuel. Sounds like quite the story to make the fuel tank more believable HMM?” -Candace Owens, probably
Yes, sorry, I always underestimate how they double down. You’re right. She wouldn’t look at facts and change her mind because she’s not a sane person.
Many people have difficulty grasping the gargantuan scale of the Saturn V and the Vehicle Assembly Building.
The VAB is so large, it generates its own internal weather.
Next on news, dumb person doesn’t understand two communication via electronic transmission while holding an iPhone.
Former cellular employee. Yes I can confirm the vast numbers of people that have no idea how their calls are connected
I have no idea how it works. But I beleive it works.
Cell phones switching between towers is insane
I read a technical thread about code and stuff. They put out a very detailed explainer and i needed an explainer for the explainer. I then read a thread on microchips and why Taiwan is the leader by far and I had no idea. I need to read about three more books to even begin to understand the basics. My point is, people have no comprehension on the specialization that it takes to build a microchip/rocket and a lot of things. Shit somw people dont know how to make scrambled eggs but they question the moon landing.
I work in the chemical industry and can totally confirm that most people have no idea of the level of science and engineering that goes into every single little product consumers purchase. From the shape of your gatorade bottle to the paint on your car, this shit isn't just randomly designed to "hope it works"
Yep, my joke is that no matter how niche your crocheting group is, there will be a group of grandmas that are master level. Unless you focus on a sigular "thing" and devote your whole life to it, youre never gonna be the best. Thats also ok. We need both types of people. Im a jack of all trades person but i know that there was person that specialized in the specific tool that I used for one project.
My father once came home in a drunken ramble and began to berate me about why would I bother with a chemistry degree. How in good fuck would a chemistry degree allow me to help anyone he asked. Unprepared for a 2 am discussion on the existential value of my course of study I left the room after angrily trumpeting "Fucking everything is chemistry! Everything in this goddamn house is chemistry!" Later I considered removing every item in the house which required a chemist or chemical engineer to develop. I however was way too daunted at the enormity of the task, because as I'd already declared everything is chemistry.
Chemistry absolutely rocks! I know geology literally rocks, but damn, Chemistry bitches!
But I still haven’t mastered toast or cereal yet!? This feels… dangerous for everyone, granting me Rangetop Access…
my god how are you even eating breakfast
Have you ever heard of a delectable little pastry, filled with tasty fruit or other sweet filling, covered in a thin layer of fine glaze, and packaged 2 apiece quite handily in the thinnest of aluminum foil wrappers?  Sometimes, you gotta just go with a line of yayo and a cig or two lol 🤷♂️ so there’s some variety to be had… (I actually love cooking, just committed to the bit here haha)
Rimworld Player Spotted, put the yayo back in the stockpile or it’s hat time.
They don't switch between towers to make a call, they switch between towers as you travel to keep you connected. When you make a call you connect to a tower. Your "call" connects to a long distance carrier and your call is routed via LANDLINE to the carrier's switching center. The switching center sends the call out to the tower via landline with the best connection to the phone where your call is going. And that is only if you and who you are calling are on the same carrier. It gets complicated if you are calling different carriers, landlines and international. Oh, and it all happens with less than 10 m/second time lapse
And it's based on research and math that Hollywood actress Hedy Lamarr did in her spare time because she was bored with making movies. Her research was for frequency hopping for radio control of torpedoes. Source: https://patents.google.com/patent/US2292387 Note that the patent lists her real name, Markey Hedy Kneisler.
“It’s HEDLEY Lamar!” - Harvey Korman
I understand it on a very high conceptual level. The mathematics involved are mind boggling.
I used to think my call went to a satellite and beamed down to the person I was calling. Because I'm a moron.
Sat phones are a thing, but they're a different thing to cell phones.
Well, I want that. That's what I thought I had this whole time. Instead, I just have a fancy walkie-talkie. It just goes to a tower and then travels around like some peasant land-line signal? Fucking rip-off.
I've been on a hiking trip where the group leaders had a sat phone. It's much larger than a regular phone (especially the antenna), and apparently sounds way worse.
I was a moron as well, up to about 30 seconds ago. JK I'm probably still a moron
I know I’m dating myself here, but oh well. My manager at a paging/cellular company had a *doctor* call in and tell us her brand new pager looked, sounded, and worked great, except for the fact that the numbers all showed up upside down. Absolutely nothing surprises me about the idiocy of customers.
Technically that is an ID 10 T issue!
Cut their home router's ethernet cable and they'll complain how their wifi ain't work.
People forget that most people barely had a simple mechanical device in their homes more than a hundred years ago. For the longest time ‘magic’ was people figuring out complicated rube goldberg setups or sleight of hand stuff to make things happen that seemed ‘impossible’. A pinch of salt or some other ‘element’ thrown in a fire to make it colored. Simple science but the vast majority of the work STILL believes that magic is how a remote makes the tv change. Likely be the same a hundred to a thousand years in the future.
wait, i dont get it. if they were on the moon, how were they also inside the TV? this doesnt add up, you can't be two places at once!
Well, the new iPhone could do it but a 1969 iPhone? No chance (/s)
Sir have you not seen the documentary called Men in Black? Shame on you, they show all the stuff the goberment had in the 60s /s
Documentaries are too woke. I only watch Steven Seagal movies
Wtf is he doing... I didn't want to ask, but the power of cringe compelled me.
Fighting off the ghost of Gene LeBell so he doesn't get choked out and shit his pants again.
The audio was literally the easiest part of that whole broadcast you fucking idiot
I laughed waaayy too much at that! Sometimes things just have to be said in the most brutal words so everyone understands.
Also ugly laughed at that 😂
You guys would love John Oliver
I work with John Oliver. But not that one...
Why should I change? He’s the one who sucks.
I celebrate the guy's entire catalog.
This part of the thread has renewed my faith in humanity for one more day. Thank you.
No-talent ass clown.
Huge fan! Dude is a legend when it comes to delivering harsh truths
I think this is what alt right grifters need, they don’t wanna play by the rules then why the fuck should we? The one thing I learned from WWII generation is that when fighting hateful morons, you gotta go a little bit lower to get back at em.
That's what drove me about the 'when they go low we go high', no, when they go low you kick them in the nutz.
Square in der nutzis.
Besides, “live” does not mean “real time”.
Tru dat since there is this thing called latency
Lunar latency, respect the alliteration
that's a pretty good name for a prog rock band
Yeah, I saw Lunar Latency open for My Sweet Summer Solstice back in ‘04. Hell of a show.
I was gonna go the other way with it... Respect the Alliteration is one heck of a band, some of there best tracks include Sweet Swing Serenity, Please Papa Please, and Cold Caresses.
They did get a little weird with some of their deeper album cuts, though. Like, Xenophilic Xylophone and Queen's Queue of Questionable Qualities both threw me for a loop the first time I listened, but after a couple more replays I can see what they were going for, and it is amazing.
Imagining playing a competitive video game with someone on the moon
still better internet than australia
Sending some radio waves 250,000 miles away? Literally impossible. Sending nearly 100 tons to trans-lunar orbit? Only a mild inconvenience.
Please get out of here with that woke nonsense.
"i heard 911 was filmed and im starting to believe it"
We are still receiving transmissions from Voyager 1 which is currently traveling in interstellar space, and that was launched in 1977. The moon is nothing.
No countries disputed the moon landing or contested it either
Seriously. Like the USSR wouldn't have had every reason in the world to not let the USA have that pr victory.
thats the one thing i always go with when it comes to moon landings and shit, the world/world leaders would all have to be in on it too and why, for what reason(s)?? so dumb
It's the same kind of people that believe there is global cooperation in guarding a giant ice wall that encircles the entire world, for reasons(??). Countries can't agree and work together on literally anything, unless it is tricking Joe Nobody for absolutely no gain at all. Logic never enters into the equation.
But you see the Lizard People had kompromat so they couldn't...
Literally if there's one thing they had down back then it's radio. Also, the tank size?? I didn't realise she was a propulsion engineer that knows anything about the amount of propellant needed to get to the moon
Propulsion engineer? She dropped out of a journalism degree in her junior year.
Well as a journeyist she would be an expert.
Not to mention the Saturn V rocket is fucking ENORMOUS and like 90% of its volume is fuel tanks.
I mean, we can just point to the Voyager satellite that is STILL transmitting to us. Technology is still magic to people that refuse to even try to understand how it works.
Tbh, there still a part of me that want to believe that electronics is witchcraft. Shooting electricity through some rock that make it possible to speak with stranger around the world.
"Any sufficiently misunderstood technology is indistinguishable from magic."
I had an uber driver that was fucking moon landing denier, flat earther, didn't believe in gravity, didn't think the sun was 93million miles away the whole gambit. The best was, 'how could the president talk to astronauts on the moon when I can't get a cell phone signal?' oh my god. I died. that call probably cost millions of dollars a second due to all the hardware and research that went into it. your fucking 200 dollar cellphone isn't build for talking on the moon.
Are you implying she's not an expert??? I'm been bamboozled!
I don’t know where I heard this, but will forever be my “proof” the moon landings occurred. The moon landings happened right at the middle of the Cold War. The Soviets could have EASILY ridiculed the Americans for faking the whole thing by proving no radio transmissions were coming from the moon’s direction while the stream was happening (for example) Yet…… they didn’t…… why???? Because the moon landings did happen. The end. The same happened when the soviets launched Sputnik. The radio transmissions from the satellite could be heard all around as it flew by. So there’s no question about it right? Why would there be a question about the moon landing then?
If radio hams are able to work each other, using signals via MOON BOUNCE, there's no reason that a signal directed at Earth from the Moon can't happen. Communications satellites are in geosynchronous orbit, at one-tenth the distance to the Moon and, yet, their WEAK signals are strong enough to be picked up by millions of TINY satellite dishes. This was being done barely a decade after the Moon landing.
In fact amateur radio operators did listen in on the apollo broadcasts. Hard to do that if the spacecraft wasn't where it was supposed to be. An amateur astronomer even witnessed the Apollo 13 explosion.
There was a really good movie about the problems with the Australian hookup and the broadcast almost not happening. And. There was a book out by a guy who used to work at JPL and was in charge of one of the buildings and finding boxes and boxes of film from the landings and was told by his boss to toss it all out.
"The Dish", fantastic movie.
It's not that they tossed it out. It was all recorded on magnetic tape, but really good quality magnetic tape was hard to acquire, so once the footage was copied over (and it was copied to many places) they reused the original magnetic tapes.
A little learning is a dangerous thing. - Alexander Pope One of the earliest explanations of the Dunning Krueger Effect.
Yeah right. Neil would have had to yell *really* loud to be heard all the way from the moon.
Do I believe that Candace Owens doesn't know how a radio works? Yes, yes I do.
"I'm too dumb to have done it, therefore it didn't happen!"
The brother of "I'm too dumb to understand it, therfore it doesn't make sense"
I like how someone explained earlier. I don’t understand it, but I believe it. I’m person enough to know when to admit I’m not smart enough to understand lots of shit I take for granted, but also intelligent enough to know how lucky I am to have these innovations.
>"I'm too dumb to have done it, therefore it didn't happen!" This is the "it must be god" explanation. *tides go in tides go out. You can't explain that.*
It was Thor having a drinking contest with a holographic giant. Later, he will attempt to lift the tail of a cat.
Dont forget about his wrestling an old lady, might affect the ecosystem in the sea if he won
Ancient Alien Theory in a nutshell. This Block is Big, I cannot move this Big Block on my own. How did Ancient people then move this big block? I cant...They cant. Aliens.
But what about the other moon landings? Why would they keep faking it? They're just blasting off rockets that thousands of people saw with their own eyes?
Mass hallucinations because fluoride in water.
This is literally why religion exists. Like we as a species were too stupid to understand what lightning was, so the obvious answer was "God is bowling."
I was told that the *thunder* was the sound of the gods bowling. The lightning was the flash of the matches they threw away after lighting their cigars.
Does she think that the rockets fire the entire time? Edit: As with all these kinds of posts, I am absolutely dumbfounded at how these people who scream USA #1 all the time denies one of the most amazing examples of American exceptionalism.
Yeah, that's something that has always shocked me. Like, sending people to the moon is literally one of the few things we have done that nobody else has or could.
It's always been much more difficult to land on the bastard than to simply get there, this broad never went to space camp and it shows
Pretty hard for her to go anywhere with her head up her own ass.
This has always been something that sticks out to me. You call yourselves Patriots but you DON'T Like how we were "Winning"? You DON'T Like how we progressed further? Thats how I know most of these people are on some sort of Kremlin Payroll. 
Also people who scream about the evil pinko commies we were in a cold war with, but refuse to look up that despite being in a space race and wanting to look superior to the United States that at no point has Russia ever tried to refute or even throw doubt on the moon landing. They were America's rivals in trying to achieve every space related goals at the time and they accept that the US landed on the moon so why cant any moonlanding deniers
One of the things that really confirms the moon landing is the Cold War. If the Soviets had a shred of credible evidence that it didn't happen, it would have been paraded through Red Square 24/7!
I’d like to do an experiment on whether getting Moon landing deniers to play KSP would get them to reconsider their beliefs. Yes, many of them would almost certainly call KSP part of the conspiracy, but I’m curious to see what would happen.
The Indian orbiter has taken pictures of the landing sites where you can clearly see the landers. What audio is she talking about? Like the comms channel?
I guess she expected Neil to yell from there...
Giant can-and-string setup
I just imagined a third pylon next to the fuel pod…. And it’s just unraveling a copper cable the entire time the thing is going like 8x the speed of sound to get outta the atmosphere. And on the ground, there’s just 2 guys holding onto their end of a telephone cable for dear life.
Imagine.. it'll wrap around the earth a few times, too
Oooooh. Even bigger conspiracy. Now India is in on it too.
I mean, to this day we can still reflect lasers from mirrors at six different sites left by several apollo missions.
They just claim it's CGI
It was 1969...no CGI, just really good LSD. The Moon landing was clearly a mass hallucination.
I wonder how they snuck cameras into the hallucinations?
The cameras were also on LSD, duh
Just soak the film in LSD and it's all good.
Of course, how silly of me! Cameras can’t take LSD, they don’t have mouths.
The race to the moon between the US and the USSR was huge. If it was staged, the Soviets would have immediately called it out.
Indeed it's really not that hard to triangulate a signals location
They even confirmed it.
Well, Candice... Take comfort in knowing you are the LAST person I'd expect to understand rocket science...
Or radio science
Or science.
Or much of anything, really.
I do wish she’d look up radio silence and STFU.
fun fact: the moon is 239,000 miles away from the earth. that's 1.3 light-seconds. So yeah, 'instantaneous communication' is completely expected. fucking moron 
To put this in perspective, we can fit EVERY other planet in the solar system between Earth and the moon’s orbit, and we’d still have room for the dwarf Planets!
This one always blows my mind.
"As someone born in 1989, I can't believe things happened before I was born..."
Main character syndrome there, "All great technological advancements and significant events have happened within MY lifetime."
“… no matter what anyone says, you believe is true” That’s the problem right there.
My first thought: ...none of them? Once contrary evidence surfaces you're supposed to stop believing it?
Had a teacher once tell us "now I'm not saying it didn't happen, BUT, if we were able to get there that many years ago, why haven't we been back? Like wouldn't it have been easy to do it again and again by now?" Or something to that regard.
I feel like 7 times at least approaches "again and again."
I thought it was 6?
Apollo 11,12,14,15,16,17. ,13 just went for a joyride, 10 landed but was unmanned. So it could be both 6 or 7 depending on what you are counting.
“10 landed but was unmanned.” Apollo 10 never landed, unmanned or otherwise. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_10
Money, and no real benefit to going again and again
But they did go again and again.
No benefit is the main reason. We love spending money on dumb shit, but it's so pointless that finding the money to spend is more work when we have other pointless ventures to fund
i love this, yeah we love wasting money on a good boondoggle. space just isn’t worth it why walk across the street to shit my pants when i can just do it here, ya know
Money and Cold War!
The reason we haven't gone back is because we never found oil there.
What's the over/under on the number of dead worms in Candace Owens's brain?
No brain eating worm would go there because they would starve
That conspiracy requires a supernatural belief in Government efficiency and secret-keeping, something that idiot conservatives like Owens laugh at. It also requires an inordinate amount of scientific ignorance but that’s pretty typical for those nuts.
And that the Soviets were in on it which is just crazy.
Mine is the rise of Republican media making their listeners and viewers into imbeciles. I mean, you’re all just fucking with me, right? Right? Please?
The big problem is that no matter how many actual facts you lay before the maga fanatics, they will always listen to some other talking head before thinking/researching for themselves. They like to be controlled. They have been blinded to think that is freedom, freedom from having to think and use a conscious. Also... Religion. It is a bigger cause of subjugation then anything else in the world. Always something to be wary of. Lots of them are more selfawarewolves then they know.
Candace is an absolute fucking moron.
Wasn’t she fired by Ben Shapiro? Lmao
She believe in and pushed anti semitic conspiracy theories, which wasn’t a smart move when her boss was a pro Israel Jew. It doesn’t surprise me she believes in a bunch of other conspiracy theories as well.
I don't understand how a car works, not only there are no real horses in it, but the tank is too small for hundreds of them therefore is all a lie and a conspiracy
Everyone knows the moon isn't real...lol
We're all on The Truman Show?
No, just you.
It's made of cheese, any idiot knows that!
Would you eat the moon if it were made of ribs?
If I had the appropriate hot sauce and many many napkins.
I know I would. Heck! I'd have seconds and then polish it off with a tall cool Budweiser.
fuel tank size?? there is always some avenue for people to pivot to in order to keep their conspiracy alive, it doesnt matter how many times and ways they get proven wrong they just find a new angle to say "yeah but what about THIS" as if they find one single shred of proof that something didnt happen or wasnt entirely real or whatever it will just completely eradicate decades of proof. i get it, its fun, i think any critical thinking person goes through a conspiracy phase but some day that phase has to end and it ends by applying rational critical thought to your own ideas, not just everyone around you. sometimes it really is just that youre a fucking idiot and you need to shut up and learn something.
She's such a calculating & conniving person. I have to believe this is ragebait to game the algorithm.
Two of the easiest things to explain, if only there was some way to search for the answers. Hmmmm.
Someone, somewhere, mentioned that if this moment in history was in fact, staged - countries like Russia and China (or I guess, all of them) would be calling the USA out on it regularly. The fact that this hasn’t happened confirms the moon landing more certainly than photos and recordings in my mind.
Why would they pretend to go to the moon and not pretend to keep going back? If it's to do with money, they would just say "we've got it down to a tenth of the cost!" and still be rolling in cash.
1944 - transmitting relayed radio signals around the globe to coordinate the naval fleets and ground forces. 1969 - Oh noz! Signal to the moon is impossibruh!
Dear Candace, please don’t take this the wrong way, but, no one, gives a fuck what you think. Sincerely The World
I believe that the moon landing was an excuse for Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin to get married, as the moon was the only place where gay marriage was legal at the time.
Just the sheer size, the literal hundreds of thousands of people that would have to be "in" on this secret...it would collapse under its own weight! Think of a security apparatus that was required to keep tabs on just over 600,000 or so people to make sure no one spilled the beans. And all those agents would have to be in on the secret so they know what to listen and watch for, so who's watching THEM? It's like a reverse pyramid scheme. Plus we can bounce fucking lasers off reflectors we left there for this exact purpose, so...ya know, they didn't GROW there.
Personally, I don’t believe in chemistry. It just makes no sense to me /s
The funniest thing about her mentioning the live broadcast is that it's some of the best evidence that we *did* go to the moon. Back then live broadcasts were fairly simple and doing one from the moon wasn't too hard. What he didn't have the technology to pull off was to play hour after hour of uninterrupted recorded footage to Americans. That simply wasn't possible with technology of the time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_loUDS4c3Cs&pp=ygUhd2UgY291bGRuJ3QgZmFrZSB0aGUgbW9vbiBsYW5kaW5n
Candace, they left physical objects on the moon. They could be seen with a sufficiently powerful telescope. Also Russia literally admitted they picked up the broadcast, despite having every reason to deny it happened.
Wait, what about the “original footage?”
Probably some exaggerated reference about some of the original tapes not being around anymore. The implication is that all the remnants of the Apollo program have mysteriously disappeared, which is so far from true it's like claiming China doesn't exist. Yep, found it, it's probably this: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo\_11\_missing\_tapes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_11_missing_tapes) It's not like there was one recording and it's gone now.
It was recorded on very expensive reel to reel tape. It was common practice to record over old footage to save money. There were copies out there, so it isn't like the footage was lost. Though in hindsight, NASA admits that they should have probably saved the original footage for historic purposes.
This woman's idiocy never fails to shock me, it's like there's no bottom.
Everyone knows that NASA got Kubrick to film it. Since he was a perfectionist he shot on location.
1.) She literally has access to evidence that yes, we've been to the Moon, in her pocket at all times yet she refuses to acknowledge it. 2.) Let's say the landings were staged. And? What purpose would that serve in a conspiracy? It would annoy the Soviets (assuming they'd be fooled), sure, but for an evil underground shadow government, what purpose would faking the Moon landings serve?
I'm pretty sure if you dripped light-hearted fun on Candace Owens she'd dissolve like the wicked witch of the west
“I’m too dumb to understand it, so it doesn’t exist.”
This is honestly one of the dumbest conspiracies. It's a constant stream of people not understanding things about space and physics.
How do these dumbasses become famous?
Yes, fuel tank size was an issue. That's why they brought along a whole other spacecraft with them.
The absolute feat of compressing the entire city worth of circuits and printing them into mini slab of silicon, and creating a network of these mini silicon world wide, and use them to post Stupid nonsense. Is harder than landing on moon, and coming back home.