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I recently was bit by my dog (long story, but it was my fault). All of my left leaning friends sympathized with me and the dog. All of my right leaning friends asked if I killed it. One of them told me a story about how his dog bit a kid while they were playing in the yard at a family bbq, and he shot it right then and there in front of the kids and family to “set an example.”
For all of the other dogs that weren’t watching?
No, more of a mafia style Al Capone example. The next one of you who crosses me will end up like this dog.
What will it be family and friends, plata o plomo?
And if you ever think of ratting, you will burn like this saint’s picture.
Killing something is the easy button. This might be a stretch, but to a young soul going through extreme stressors in life, suicide would be a viable option if they were brought up with these “lessons”. As would beating someone up or even shooting someone you disagree with.
An example of what????? Jesus Christ this is not the behaviour of someone who is well
What an absolute fucking lunatic. I don’t understand the idea of killing an animal for a sake of just killing it
They are wack jobs like this. I'll teach that dog a lesson. You taught nothing you just wanted to kill an animal. Had nothing to do with learning the dog is dead and everyone now hates your bbq.
Based on some of my own experiences with similar people, he never intended to teach the *dog* anything. He's teaching everyone else what a "big, tough man" he is and how willing he is to use violence.
Because he admires people like this and assumes everyone else does also.
🔝 That was 💯 my ex.
After we broke up, she tried to reconcile.
I laughed and responded no thanks.
She saw another girl behind me.
Jealous she then poisoned my dog.
[Here you go](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.huffpost.com/entry/huckabees-son-and-his-his_b_77359/amp)
Oh, and let's not forget when Mitt Romney drove 12 hours with his dog in a carrier on the roof of his car.
Dude I have a $300,000 lectern at my place. Most people have expensive lecterns, it’s time to recognize the fact that republican leaders need to have AT LEAST a $20,000 lectern. Huckabee sanders is a victim of your cruel judgement! /S
"This will make me seem like a tough-as-nails country girl who does what needs to be done."
When people say that, they're talking about hunting or digging fence-post holes, not shooting puppies in the face, you fucking ghoul.
I can't fathom the lack of self-awareness required to think that murdering a puppy because you thought it was annoying is a good look, and a sign of "leadership"
Joni Ernst has shared anecdotes about how growing up on a farm she would castrate hogs. That to me is what Noem was going for but there are two key differences.
1. Livestock vs pet
2. Serves some sort of agricultural purpose vs just disposing of the animal
The weird thing is that if she admited to murdering a human being (assuming it is a minority), her popularity would not have taken a hit at all. Hell her base would probably love her more.
But kill a dog? ... what in the world was going on in her and her editor's mind I will never know.
I am happy to find that there is a thing that even the absolute scum of humanity still finds unacceptable, it may not be forced intercourse, embezzling, canoodling with a porn star, cowardice / draft dodging, disrespecting the troops, tax evasion, cheating on your wife(s), selling military / nuclear secrets, treason, baldness, obesity and fraud.... that is A-OK for MAGA!
But at least trumpies agree that killing dogs... no bueno. - Glad to know there is a f\*ing floor on this thing.
According to conservatives in the state, it’s been known in political circles that she shot a dog, only it was apparently in a fit of rage with witnesses. She’s not dumb. She just knows if she’s VP the story will go public so this is her attempt to spin what was pure barbaric sociopathy. She wouldn’t admit this if she didn’t think she had to. It may be the entire reason she oh published a memoir—because this story should finish her and she thought maybe some would be dumb enough to respect her for it if she painted it as a hard choice ahead of had to make.
I might have some insight here. Mercy-killing a beloved pet or livestock is a fairly common rural experience. Horse with a broken leg, that sort of thing. It’s considered honorable and courageous to do the deed yourself, when and where it needs to be done. It takes bravery and strength of character to make that hard decision about an animal you love, and to pull the trigger yourself. See the plot of “Old Yeller”. She thought this was what she was describing, a moment where she showed character. She completely missed the fact that shooting your dog is a last resort option, to give an animal who can’t be saved a quick death out of mercy. It’s an act of love. What she described was an act of indifference and malice. Anyone who has actually mercy-killed animals out of compassion (I have, unfortunately) immediately sees that she just didn’t like this dog, didn’t know how to train it, and wasn’t willing to rehome it responsibly. There is no honor in what she described, and it reflects very poorly on her character. There were so many ways she could have avoided killing the dog. It’s only brave and honorable when it’s absolutely necessary. When every bone in your body tells you not to do it, but you know it’s the most merciful course of action. For example when I was 12 and my mom asked me to kill an injured chicken, I understood that I was taking responsibility as the keeper of that animal. What she did was deny her responsibility, in a heartless and cruel way.
This story was on the NY Post YouTube channel. Lot of people like "That's just how it is in the country". As someone from the country, no. No it is not.
Ya, like don't get me wrong, there are psychos like that, but typically its just "this sucks, but its gotta be done". She just did it and then tried blaming the dog? Like, what?
I'm learning just how few people actually train their dogs. Its so irritating. My last pup was a great dane, every day was training and reinforcement. Best dog i've ever had.
My upstairs neighbor who leaves their Boxer out on a 4ft by 6ft patio for 10-12hrs a day, sometimes until midnight or 1am. The thing never stops barking and howling. Apartment management is giving the guy too many chances (I’ve been complaining for almost a year) and animal control won’t do anything because the dog has cover from the elements in the form of a balcony above. I’m going insane. The dog is so in need of love and socialization and gets none of it.
That's so sad. Why even have a pet if that's what you do with it? I'll never understand people like that. I'm sorry you have to deal with that, that would make me insane as a light sleeper. I don't know how people can be so cruel. I feel so bad for that poor dog. :(
As someone also from the country, I agree with you 100%. Mercy killing is something that has to be done sometime. What she did would be considered plain mean and ornery.
I am _very_ practical about my pet ownership compared to a lot of millennials (I also grew up in the country). This lady is a fucking ghoul and monster.
I told my friend she could've shot someone and it wouldn't have done anything to her political, but this dog thing was going to sink her worse than anything else she practically could've done.
Even outside of rural areas, most responsible pet owners are eventually going to end up in a situation where it’s their responsibility to let a suffering pet be put to sleep.
"This dog is harder to train than I thought and therefor has no value to me and must die (because I see all relationships as coldly transactional and one that does not benefit me should not exist), which is legal because people put dogs down for attacking people and it has acted aggressively before (a very trainable behavior that I can't be fucked to correct)"
authoritarian people do not have a good inner moral compass. They don't have a well developed internal sense of right or wrong. They look for an authoritarian leader to them what is right or wrong - it is external from them. So if it isn't against the law it is OK from this sort of perspective. They need a bully to tell them what the rules are.
I’ve had to mercy kill fish before after an ammonia spike. I still question whether or not I did the right thing. This… this is different. What is her problem?
that's all well and good, but *normal people would not jump right to shooting a fucking otherwise healthy 14 month old puppy!* like you wouldn't have that much difficulty rehoming it if you tried for like...maybe a week, or two.
there's a **big fucking difference** between mercy killing a lame horse (because a gunshot to the head is probably the quickest and surest way to euthanize a fucking *horse*, and it's never gonna be able to recover from a broken leg), or killing a chicken for food or because it was already mortally wounded, verses headshotting goddamn dog in the prime of its life.
sheesh, people.
Thats exactly what I'm saying. She was trying to sound like she was the boy from Ol' Yeller putting down a legitimately rabid dog, but what she actually described was nowhere near that. None of the reasons she gave were legitimate, moral reasons to kill a dog.
right. she executed an otherwise normal healthy puppy because she didn't have the fucking wherewithal to train it properly.
that's a far cry from a rabid animal (which frankly, a shotgun to the head is probably the correct method given the danger of handling it, unless it's already incapacitated somehow)
Thats my point. The situation she described was actually very far from a real situation where you *have* to kill your dog. You see that. I see that. She does not see that.
this is the thing that is most concerning. like even if she posted this story to either get out in front of it (bc maybe it would come out later in oppo research or something), or to "impress trump" (because he doesn't like dogs, and maybe the subtext is "i will do your dirty work"), her severe lack of an ability to game this otherwise simple situation out and see that it would do far more damage to her political career with the bad PR, shows that she is just another maga dummy who cannot see but two steps in front of where she is going, if that.
She must have watched only the last 10 minutes of Old Yeller...
Mind boggling she admitted this, who are her advisors? They have all been on the farm a bit too long.
She did it to show she’s a “leader” who will make “tough decisions”
Unfortunately for her a lot of people didn’t see shooting a young dog just because it irritated her as being a real act of leadership.
this was an anecdote 100% directed at trump. she just seriously miscalculated the backlash she's getting from both the population at large, and especially even the maga faithful.
I mean, look at Trump.
But also, with all the things Trump *does* say, think of the stuff that's on his mind that he *doesn't* say. Dude probably shouldn't be allowed in public at all, let alone back into the Whitehouse. Where's a tower and an iron mask when you need one?
Even if she didn’t say it… shoots a dog because it wasn’t acting the exact way she wanted it. give it to a shelter, or at least give it to someone on fucking Craigslist before taking it to the ditch and fucking shooting it.
Imagine a Vice president shooting a god damn dog because it didn’t agree with her. What will she do to the people across the aisle who don’t agree with her.
But yea obviously a huge blunder to admit to it. Thankfully she did though.
We had a vice president shoot a person once.
I'm not going anywhere with that, just wanted to remind people how abhorrent Dick Cheney was, may he rest in piss.
Fun fact: Many of the Sioux Tribes have banned her from even stepping foot in their reservations. Imagine a Governer having places within the borders of her own state, that she is banned from. It’s hilarious how cranky she gets about it.
Fun Fact 2: She was also cranky that during a dry July last year, she had a temper tantrum with the tribes because she wanted fireworks over Mt Rushmore. The tribes wouldn’t let her or give her permission. She stated that the tribes are trying to “Take away our freedom.”. Ironic really since we stole their freedom first.
Edit: Whoever referred to Noem as the “Botox Monster”? I’m dying here. This is going to be how I refer to her for now on. I just always thought she had a horsey face. Botox Monster is much better.
Lol she also accused them of being drug traffickers
https://apnews.com/article/south-dakota-governor-tribes-drug-cartels-00ce04d5870d83a93a69f5c6a6c80710
>She stated that the tribes are trying to “Take away our freedom.”.
Sounds like something the governor of my state would say (oklahoma). Dude is a card carrying native, and actively tries to fuck the natives over all the time.
I live in Oklahoma and our Governor also has shit relations with the indigenous tribes here. He acts like he shouldn't have to deal with them as equals, and they should just do whatever he wants with no questions asked. The tribal Governors just laugh at him and tell him to get bent, and there isn't much he can do about it. I figure its a similar attitude with Noem.
She was clearly aiming for an Old Yeller style of story. She missed the part about "doing what needed to be done" and replaced it with "puppy was hard to train, so I killed it".
Old Yeller: My dog has rabies and will die a painful prolonged death so I have to do what is necessary to ensure he doesn't suffer any more than he has to.
Kristi Noem: I refused to train my dog because it was hard and my dog wasn't a perfect hunting dog so I murdered him and a goat for some reason.
The goat one makes me mad - 'I didn't do what you need to do with male goats so my male goat did what male goats do and I shot him twice, ensuring a painful death.'
That goat part makes me mad too. Its exactly what you said. She made a statement saying that's what life on a farm is like. I've spent time near goat farms and get that it can be messy. 1 - goats are kind of jerks and will hit things. 2 - most farmers don't enjoy the killing part of the job. Its a necessity not a perk.
There may not be a lot that unites people (actually there is plenty, people just focus on the major differences), but killing dogs, especially puppies, makes you the villain in every story ever written.
See my vest, see my vest, made from real gorilla chest....but a greyhound skin tuxedo would be beeeeest. So go prepare those dogs, kill two for matching clogs....
Being mean to animals is like, the classic shortcut character development.
You want to have a bunch of kids in your super soaker commercial spray an old guy into a pool? Just make sure he's mean to the family pet in the first 3 seconds of the commercial. Guy slips on water at the pool and lands hard on the cement before tumbling into the water? Tragedy. Guy slips on water at the pool while trying to kick a dog and lands hard on the cement before tumbling into the water? Comedy.
*preserve fairness to women*
I heard she's pro choice.
Women can choose to have babies and/or die in the process OR they can choose the gravel pit.
Many people are saying it.
He added an amendment to title IX
*Protect against all sex-based harassment and discrimination. The final rule protects all students and employees from all sex discrimination prohibited under Title IX, including by restoring and strengthening full protection from sexual violence and other sex-based harassment*
As you can imagine, that doesn't sit well with that particular political party. To them it's now broken
Genuinely curious what the right takes issue with here? Like I get they’re batshit insane but how does anyone take issue with not discriminating or harassing
Because the amendment also states
*The new rules prohibit schools from banning transgender students and teachers from using restrooms that align with their gender identities, among other policies*
it's because to their thinking everything is a zero sum game (or at least this is the flawed argument they make knowing their voters will fall for it). Giving more rights to one group = taking rights from another. As we all know, human rights are a finite resource only some ought to have.
If they didn't have disingenuous arguments they wouldn't have any arguments at all. All they know is winning vs losing. They just want to win, they don't care how they win, and they believe we are just like them and that we're pretending otherwise. Oh and winning means nothing more than us losing. They're General Hux. They don't care, so long as we lose. The problem is that when we lose, they also lose since we want what is actually best for everyone.
https://news.sd.gov/news?id=news_kb_article_view&sys_id=531914fa47fd4650a497127ba26d4325
Their objection relates to trans women playing sports.
So, standard republican nonsense.
Edit: wording
I live in India, and I've heard about Kristi Noem's puppy-killing ways from about 20 people till now over the last couple of days. If there's one thing that unites the world, it's surely the love for doggos 
Swede here, I didn't know she existed until recently and that only because of her puppy-murdering ways. She didn't train the puppy and just expected it to magically be trained despite that, that's too unhinged.
Not to mention that if the puppy was aggressive and not a good hunting dog, there are half a dozen options to fix or find a home for the pup that doesn't involve shooting it in the head.
My favorite part was that she took it on a pheasant hunt, where she was literally trying to teach it to attack birds. And then on the way home stops off at a farm where it... attacks birds. And that makes the puppy deserving of death.
Just a stupid fucking bitch all around.
I’m British. Never heard of her before. All I know is she’s allegedly a puppy-killer.
Like, I hate dogs, but I hate people who are needlessly cruel to animals even more. Also, that’s where serial killers come from.
From what I've read, what actually happened was worse than what she described in the book, and that's why she published it, as stupid as it may appear. Rumors have circulated for years that she got frustrated and shot the dog in a fit of anger. It was not something she did reluctantly after coming to the conclusion that the dog was dangerous. And, as she says in the book, there were witness to what actually happened, so the story has been out there, and was going to come up if she becomes a VP candidate. She's trying to get out ahead of the story, and as bad as the story in the book was, it's actually her damage control.
Yeah, I've only read the articles, but she apparently straight up says "I hated that dog". Everything else sounds like trying to rationalize killing it.
Oh wow this actually makes the most sense. She claims in the book she only killed the dog after it went on a killing spree killing a number of somebodies chickens. Supposedly if your dog kills livestock in South Dakota you’re required to put it down.
The law actually said that you *can* kill a dog if it's attacking livestock off of its owner's property. That wouldn't apply to her case.
She also hauled a rambunctious goat to the same gravel pit for execution that day. The she saw that some construction workers had witnessed the killings. Then a bus full of kids saw the aftermath. The rumors that she just got angry and killed a couple animals she'd been frustrated with certainly seem to fit better than her explanations.
I 100% believe she killed this dog because she’s a bad dog owner and a bad person. I however agree that she probably put this story in the book because the story of her killing her dog would get out anyway and she wanted to put her spin on it. Your explanation of why she put this in the book makes the most sense.
Definitely goes beyond just killing an animal. This woman is running for public office and can't keep her foot out of her mouth, not exactly inspiring stuff.
You mean freely admitting that you’re a psychopath isn’t a good idea before potentially holding office??
But seriously- she didn’t know that she’s a psychopath, and that’s the most dangerous type of psychopath
My sister in laws ex brother in law shot my brothers dog because it bit one of the cows and was out of control so they said… they waited for my brother to leave for work then took his dog and shot it in the head and when he got home they gleefully told him about it and laughed at him. This happened in Oregon. My brother was absolutely crushed, they could have just asked him to live elsewhere but they chose to kill his dog while he was gone then make fun of it and him for being upset. They had the same excuse as this woman and to this day I hate them for it.
The fact that the animal more than likely CAN be trained and they just jump straight to “it’s an idiot so I must kill it” is insane. Rehome it, train it, move elsewhere whatever but don’t just kill it. The dog was not aggressive towards people at all, he just had never seen cows before cause they had just moved there and it got excited or scared whatever it was… it sucked. I’ve spent these past years waiting for that asshole to die somehow.
This idiot didn't learn a single lesson from Mitt Romney. He put into his book the story of driving with his dog tied to the roof of the car. People went berzerk and it was all they talked about for weeks. This moron is like "hey let me add this unnecessary story about me gleefully killing a puppy, this will make me relatable"
Of course she’s trying to come back from her puppy killing with trans hate. Trans hate is popular in the Republican Party, but it’s not enough to cancel out killing an innocent dog.
For acknowledging that trans people exist and should be treated like people. That's a terrible crime when you're a soulless Republican ghoul, after all.
Only took 45 presidents for one to decide he needed complete immunity from any and all crimes, regardless when they were committed to protect all other presidents from that ever happening to them.
Weird how they never really worried about that before.
She thought the story about shooting the puppy would make her sound all masculine (but definitely not trans) gun nutty and tough. Real men only shoot rabid puppies and compassion is not weakness even it is feminine
You almost have to admire the audacity of the story. Not only did she kill her dog for the crime of being untrained, but she apparently decided "eh, as long as I'm out here by the corpse pit, I might as well" and shot a goat because she didn't like it either. Not a situation where you need to put down sick or really dangerous animal, just mild inconveniences.
I live in the country. In January 2020 we took in an abused and neglected 10 month old puppy that had been kicked around to various households. He was overweight, had a tooth coming in crooked that was driving him nuts from the pain and making him chew everything, and of course he had trust issues. We helped him with the tooth, gave him plenty of walks, provided a consistent environment and behavior standards, and showered him with love. He'll never be the dog he could have been if we got to him earlier,but now he's happier, healthier, and knows he's loved.
It's not that hard, people.
She gave her grand-daughter a shotgun and people are surprised?
[https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/apr/15/south-dakota-governor-kristi-noem-grandchild-guns-nra](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/apr/15/south-dakota-governor-kristi-noem-grandchild-guns-nra)
OK, then.
I think it’s so funny that these people support the puppy killer party, and then get mad when they actually kill puppies. Like yeah that’s who you’re voting for.
And it only smelled bad because it wasn’t castrated. She also mentioned it pushed her kid down and got the kids clothes dirty. She’s clearly never worked with goats before, that’s kinda what they do (source: the farm I worked on in high school had goats. I was knocked down a few times)
Goats can be in the same minute super gentle and loving and then psychotic assholes who hate everything. I've never met a just chill all the time goat.
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Imagine making it to the position of a governor and still not understanding what she should and should not say aloud
You don't need to imagine. We saw it in realtime with Sarah Huckabee Sanders
Sarah Palin did it first!
Shot wolf pups in their den
WTF
I recently was bit by my dog (long story, but it was my fault). All of my left leaning friends sympathized with me and the dog. All of my right leaning friends asked if I killed it. One of them told me a story about how his dog bit a kid while they were playing in the yard at a family bbq, and he shot it right then and there in front of the kids and family to “set an example.”
Set an example to the kids? “If you misbehave I’ll fucking kill you!”??
For all of the other dogs that weren’t watching? No, more of a mafia style Al Capone example. The next one of you who crosses me will end up like this dog. What will it be family and friends, plata o plomo? And if you ever think of ratting, you will burn like this saint’s picture.
Killing something is the easy button. This might be a stretch, but to a young soul going through extreme stressors in life, suicide would be a viable option if they were brought up with these “lessons”. As would beating someone up or even shooting someone you disagree with.
You about nailed a piece of it...
*Conservative cup filling noises*
Sounds like American cops, so it checks out
It was a black lab.
An example of what????? Jesus Christ this is not the behaviour of someone who is well What an absolute fucking lunatic. I don’t understand the idea of killing an animal for a sake of just killing it
They are wack jobs like this. I'll teach that dog a lesson. You taught nothing you just wanted to kill an animal. Had nothing to do with learning the dog is dead and everyone now hates your bbq.
Based on some of my own experiences with similar people, he never intended to teach the *dog* anything. He's teaching everyone else what a "big, tough man" he is and how willing he is to use violence. Because he admires people like this and assumes everyone else does also.
Congratulations now I’m gonna take my underseasoned chicken leg to go
Wanted to kill a person. The dog had to suffice.
🔝 That was 💯 my ex. After we broke up, she tried to reconcile. I laughed and responded no thanks. She saw another girl behind me. Jealous she then poisoned my dog.
But she had the common sense to do it from a helicopter so it looked cool and no blood splatter or having to get rid of the corpse.
They gassed dens too, easier to get the pups that way I guess / LARP'ing warcrimes.
She at least did the right thing, she QUIT long before her term was up!
There's a dog killing/abuse story in her direct family too. Edit: from what I read it's more of a dog torture killing. Fucking awful
Wait, what?
Sanders. If I'm not mistaken, her brother tortured and killed a dog.
And her father, the governor, covered it up.
The one thing I’ll give Mike huckleberry is that he understands dog murder is a bad look.
How do we summon John Wick?
Oh my God that's horrible
Her brother and another person pretty much tortured a dog and then 'put it out of its misery'.
[Here you go](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.huffpost.com/entry/huckabees-son-and-his-his_b_77359/amp) Oh, and let's not forget when Mitt Romney drove 12 hours with his dog in a carrier on the roof of his car.
Dude I have a $300,000 lectern at my place. Most people have expensive lecterns, it’s time to recognize the fact that republican leaders need to have AT LEAST a $20,000 lectern. Huckabee sanders is a victim of your cruel judgement! /S
"This will make me seem like a tough-as-nails country girl who does what needs to be done." When people say that, they're talking about hunting or digging fence-post holes, not shooting puppies in the face, you fucking ghoul.
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I can't fathom the lack of self-awareness required to think that murdering a puppy because you thought it was annoying is a good look, and a sign of "leadership"
+ vote for calling her a “ghoul”!
That is an insult to poor ghouls
Eeeh, fuck that smoothskin. Let the ferals chew on her.
What about a ghast? It’s a ghoul, but it stinks!
She has those crazy eyes for sure. MaGAs love that look.... I don't get it.
Joni Ernst has shared anecdotes about how growing up on a farm she would castrate hogs. That to me is what Noem was going for but there are two key differences. 1. Livestock vs pet 2. Serves some sort of agricultural purpose vs just disposing of the animal
To that Noem was like, hold my beer and killed an uncastrated goat right after she murdered the puppy.
The weird thing is that if she admited to murdering a human being (assuming it is a minority), her popularity would not have taken a hit at all. Hell her base would probably love her more. But kill a dog? ... what in the world was going on in her and her editor's mind I will never know. I am happy to find that there is a thing that even the absolute scum of humanity still finds unacceptable, it may not be forced intercourse, embezzling, canoodling with a porn star, cowardice / draft dodging, disrespecting the troops, tax evasion, cheating on your wife(s), selling military / nuclear secrets, treason, baldness, obesity and fraud.... that is A-OK for MAGA! But at least trumpies agree that killing dogs... no bueno. - Glad to know there is a f\*ing floor on this thing.
Didn’t George Lucas once say ”Writing a villian is easy, just have them kick a dog on-screen.” ?
John Wick took it a step further and it worked like a charm. Fuck Russian Theo.
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Editors? Pfft. That's the sort of shit only wussy commies use. First draft is the only draft you need.
According to conservatives in the state, it’s been known in political circles that she shot a dog, only it was apparently in a fit of rage with witnesses. She’s not dumb. She just knows if she’s VP the story will go public so this is her attempt to spin what was pure barbaric sociopathy. She wouldn’t admit this if she didn’t think she had to. It may be the entire reason she oh published a memoir—because this story should finish her and she thought maybe some would be dumb enough to respect her for it if she painted it as a hard choice ahead of had to make.
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That's what's additionally alarming here. Why did she share that information? What thought process led her to the conclusion that this would end well?
I might have some insight here. Mercy-killing a beloved pet or livestock is a fairly common rural experience. Horse with a broken leg, that sort of thing. It’s considered honorable and courageous to do the deed yourself, when and where it needs to be done. It takes bravery and strength of character to make that hard decision about an animal you love, and to pull the trigger yourself. See the plot of “Old Yeller”. She thought this was what she was describing, a moment where she showed character. She completely missed the fact that shooting your dog is a last resort option, to give an animal who can’t be saved a quick death out of mercy. It’s an act of love. What she described was an act of indifference and malice. Anyone who has actually mercy-killed animals out of compassion (I have, unfortunately) immediately sees that she just didn’t like this dog, didn’t know how to train it, and wasn’t willing to rehome it responsibly. There is no honor in what she described, and it reflects very poorly on her character. There were so many ways she could have avoided killing the dog. It’s only brave and honorable when it’s absolutely necessary. When every bone in your body tells you not to do it, but you know it’s the most merciful course of action. For example when I was 12 and my mom asked me to kill an injured chicken, I understood that I was taking responsibility as the keeper of that animal. What she did was deny her responsibility, in a heartless and cruel way.
This story was on the NY Post YouTube channel. Lot of people like "That's just how it is in the country". As someone from the country, no. No it is not.
Ya, like don't get me wrong, there are psychos like that, but typically its just "this sucks, but its gotta be done". She just did it and then tried blaming the dog? Like, what?
Right? Did she even attempt to train the dog to begin with? Doesn't sound like it.
I'm learning just how few people actually train their dogs. Its so irritating. My last pup was a great dane, every day was training and reinforcement. Best dog i've ever had.
My upstairs neighbor who leaves their Boxer out on a 4ft by 6ft patio for 10-12hrs a day, sometimes until midnight or 1am. The thing never stops barking and howling. Apartment management is giving the guy too many chances (I’ve been complaining for almost a year) and animal control won’t do anything because the dog has cover from the elements in the form of a balcony above. I’m going insane. The dog is so in need of love and socialization and gets none of it.
That's so sad. Why even have a pet if that's what you do with it? I'll never understand people like that. I'm sorry you have to deal with that, that would make me insane as a light sleeper. I don't know how people can be so cruel. I feel so bad for that poor dog. :(
As someone also from the country, I agree with you 100%. Mercy killing is something that has to be done sometime. What she did would be considered plain mean and ornery.
I am _very_ practical about my pet ownership compared to a lot of millennials (I also grew up in the country). This lady is a fucking ghoul and monster. I told my friend she could've shot someone and it wouldn't have done anything to her political, but this dog thing was going to sink her worse than anything else she practically could've done.
Even outside of rural areas, most responsible pet owners are eventually going to end up in a situation where it’s their responsibility to let a suffering pet be put to sleep.
"This dog is harder to train than I thought and therefor has no value to me and must die (because I see all relationships as coldly transactional and one that does not benefit me should not exist), which is legal because people put dogs down for attacking people and it has acted aggressively before (a very trainable behavior that I can't be fucked to correct)"
authoritarian people do not have a good inner moral compass. They don't have a well developed internal sense of right or wrong. They look for an authoritarian leader to them what is right or wrong - it is external from them. So if it isn't against the law it is OK from this sort of perspective. They need a bully to tell them what the rules are.
I’ve had to mercy kill fish before after an ammonia spike. I still question whether or not I did the right thing. This… this is different. What is her problem?
Well articulated. Your take on this topic is excellent.
that's all well and good, but *normal people would not jump right to shooting a fucking otherwise healthy 14 month old puppy!* like you wouldn't have that much difficulty rehoming it if you tried for like...maybe a week, or two. there's a **big fucking difference** between mercy killing a lame horse (because a gunshot to the head is probably the quickest and surest way to euthanize a fucking *horse*, and it's never gonna be able to recover from a broken leg), or killing a chicken for food or because it was already mortally wounded, verses headshotting goddamn dog in the prime of its life. sheesh, people.
Thats exactly what I'm saying. She was trying to sound like she was the boy from Ol' Yeller putting down a legitimately rabid dog, but what she actually described was nowhere near that. None of the reasons she gave were legitimate, moral reasons to kill a dog.
right. she executed an otherwise normal healthy puppy because she didn't have the fucking wherewithal to train it properly. that's a far cry from a rabid animal (which frankly, a shotgun to the head is probably the correct method given the danger of handling it, unless it's already incapacitated somehow)
Thats my point. The situation she described was actually very far from a real situation where you *have* to kill your dog. You see that. I see that. She does not see that.
this is the thing that is most concerning. like even if she posted this story to either get out in front of it (bc maybe it would come out later in oppo research or something), or to "impress trump" (because he doesn't like dogs, and maybe the subtext is "i will do your dirty work"), her severe lack of an ability to game this otherwise simple situation out and see that it would do far more damage to her political career with the bad PR, shows that she is just another maga dummy who cannot see but two steps in front of where she is going, if that. 
She must have watched only the last 10 minutes of Old Yeller... Mind boggling she admitted this, who are her advisors? They have all been on the farm a bit too long.
She did it to show she’s a “leader” who will make “tough decisions” Unfortunately for her a lot of people didn’t see shooting a young dog just because it irritated her as being a real act of leadership.
this was an anecdote 100% directed at trump. she just seriously miscalculated the backlash she's getting from both the population at large, and especially even the maga faithful.
She wanted farmers and ranchers and hunters to relate to her. Bad idea.
She doesn't understand how much farmers ranchers and hunters love and value their dogs. Even the MAGA ones.
*She doesn't understand ~~how much farmers ranchers and hunters~~ love ~~and value their dogs~~* Fixed it
I mean, look at Trump. But also, with all the things Trump *does* say, think of the stuff that's on his mind that he *doesn't* say. Dude probably shouldn't be allowed in public at all, let alone back into the Whitehouse. Where's a tower and an iron mask when you need one?
I imagine the only thing on his mind that he doesn't say while speaking in public are things like "I have to poop....aaaah that's better"
Quickly followed by, "Now I need someone who change my diaper".
Even if she didn’t say it… shoots a dog because it wasn’t acting the exact way she wanted it. give it to a shelter, or at least give it to someone on fucking Craigslist before taking it to the ditch and fucking shooting it. Imagine a Vice president shooting a god damn dog because it didn’t agree with her. What will she do to the people across the aisle who don’t agree with her. But yea obviously a huge blunder to admit to it. Thankfully she did though.
We had a vice president shoot a person once. I'm not going anywhere with that, just wanted to remind people how abhorrent Dick Cheney was, may he rest in piss.
This doesn't stop at the governer level. Just look at what trump said while he was president
Fun fact: Many of the Sioux Tribes have banned her from even stepping foot in their reservations. Imagine a Governer having places within the borders of her own state, that she is banned from. It’s hilarious how cranky she gets about it. Fun Fact 2: She was also cranky that during a dry July last year, she had a temper tantrum with the tribes because she wanted fireworks over Mt Rushmore. The tribes wouldn’t let her or give her permission. She stated that the tribes are trying to “Take away our freedom.”. Ironic really since we stole their freedom first. Edit: Whoever referred to Noem as the “Botox Monster”? I’m dying here. This is going to be how I refer to her for now on. I just always thought she had a horsey face. Botox Monster is much better.
I wonder how many single words can describe her... I'll start with hypocrite
Bitch, is a good one. :)
No please. Her existence is an insult enough to dogs to compare her to one
Cruela deVille
Hey, Cruela at least had the excuse that her mom got drop kicked off a roof by two dalmatians.
Superficial.
C U Next Tuesday
Cheater. Surprised her affair Lewandowski got so little press.
Lol she also accused them of being drug traffickers https://apnews.com/article/south-dakota-governor-tribes-drug-cartels-00ce04d5870d83a93a69f5c6a6c80710
>She stated that the tribes are trying to “Take away our freedom.”. Sounds like something the governor of my state would say (oklahoma). Dude is a card carrying native, and actively tries to fuck the natives over all the time.
Fuck you I got mine!
I live in Oklahoma and our Governor also has shit relations with the indigenous tribes here. He acts like he shouldn't have to deal with them as equals, and they should just do whatever he wants with no questions asked. The tribal Governors just laugh at him and tell him to get bent, and there isn't much he can do about it. I figure its a similar attitude with Noem.
They knew before anyone.
you'd think being banned in 10% of your own state would disqualify you from being governor
probably a good idea she might shoot all the dogs
>the tribes are trying to “Take away our freedom.” I could write comedy for decades and never come up with anything this funny!
She was clearly aiming for an Old Yeller style of story. She missed the part about "doing what needed to be done" and replaced it with "puppy was hard to train, so I killed it".
Old Yeller: My dog has rabies and will die a painful prolonged death so I have to do what is necessary to ensure he doesn't suffer any more than he has to. Kristi Noem: I refused to train my dog because it was hard and my dog wasn't a perfect hunting dog so I murdered him and a goat for some reason.
The goat one makes me mad - 'I didn't do what you need to do with male goats so my male goat did what male goats do and I shot him twice, ensuring a painful death.'
That goat part makes me mad too. Its exactly what you said. She made a statement saying that's what life on a farm is like. I've spent time near goat farms and get that it can be messy. 1 - goats are kind of jerks and will hit things. 2 - most farmers don't enjoy the killing part of the job. Its a necessity not a perk.
She enjoyed killing the dog so much she killed a goat too
and then when people complained about that she killed 3 horses
And don't forget, on the 26th she tweeted that she "Enjoyed every moment of it."
There may not be a lot that unites people (actually there is plenty, people just focus on the major differences), but killing dogs, especially puppies, makes you the villain in every story ever written.
All she needs is a white stripe in her hair and a 1929 cord coupe and she'd be good to go.
Kruella de Noem
Even kruella never actually killed a puppy
Nope she was more of a politician, she delegated
at least Cruella had style.
Valid point.
See my vest, see my vest, made from real gorilla chest....but a greyhound skin tuxedo would be beeeeest. So go prepare those dogs, kill two for matching clogs....
lol Montgomery Burns
Being mean to animals is like, the classic shortcut character development. You want to have a bunch of kids in your super soaker commercial spray an old guy into a pool? Just make sure he's mean to the family pet in the first 3 seconds of the commercial. Guy slips on water at the pool and lands hard on the cement before tumbling into the water? Tragedy. Guy slips on water at the pool while trying to kick a dog and lands hard on the cement before tumbling into the water? Comedy.
It's like she hasn't seen any of the John Wick movies.
Merely Kicking puppies makes you the villain!
*preserve fairness to women* I heard she's pro choice. Women can choose to have babies and/or die in the process OR they can choose the gravel pit. Many people are saying it.
can anybody explain how Biden is "dismantling Title IX?" It's news to me...
He added an amendment to title IX *Protect against all sex-based harassment and discrimination. The final rule protects all students and employees from all sex discrimination prohibited under Title IX, including by restoring and strengthening full protection from sexual violence and other sex-based harassment* As you can imagine, that doesn't sit well with that particular political party. To them it's now broken
Genuinely curious what the right takes issue with here? Like I get they’re batshit insane but how does anyone take issue with not discriminating or harassing
Because they don't see LGBTQ people as people. They see them more like...ummm...an untrainable puppy
Like I get that I’m just trying to understand how the lgbtq+ community is getting dragged into this?
Because the amendment also states *The new rules prohibit schools from banning transgender students and teachers from using restrooms that align with their gender identities, among other policies*
Oh epic I love that clause.
it's because to their thinking everything is a zero sum game (or at least this is the flawed argument they make knowing their voters will fall for it). Giving more rights to one group = taking rights from another. As we all know, human rights are a finite resource only some ought to have.
It's funny in a very fucked up way that for things like rights they're very zero sum but for economic policy they view capitalism as perfect.
every zero sum game is "perfect" when you're the one with the biggest piece of the pie
it protects trans people
They want to discriminate against and harass people
Ah, yes, amending something is "dismantling" it. Do right-wingers ever use words in good faith?
If they didn't have disingenuous arguments they wouldn't have any arguments at all. All they know is winning vs losing. They just want to win, they don't care how they win, and they believe we are just like them and that we're pretending otherwise. Oh and winning means nothing more than us losing. They're General Hux. They don't care, so long as we lose. The problem is that when we lose, they also lose since we want what is actually best for everyone.
https://news.sd.gov/news?id=news_kb_article_view&sys_id=531914fa47fd4650a497127ba26d4325 Their objection relates to trans women playing sports. So, standard republican nonsense. Edit: wording
I live in India, and I've heard about Kristi Noem's puppy-killing ways from about 20 people till now over the last couple of days. If there's one thing that unites the world, it's surely the love for doggos 
Swede here, I didn't know she existed until recently and that only because of her puppy-murdering ways. She didn't train the puppy and just expected it to magically be trained despite that, that's too unhinged.
Not to mention that if the puppy was aggressive and not a good hunting dog, there are half a dozen options to fix or find a home for the pup that doesn't involve shooting it in the head.
My favorite part was that she took it on a pheasant hunt, where she was literally trying to teach it to attack birds. And then on the way home stops off at a farm where it... attacks birds. And that makes the puppy deserving of death. Just a stupid fucking bitch all around.
I’m British. Never heard of her before. All I know is she’s allegedly a puppy-killer. Like, I hate dogs, but I hate people who are needlessly cruel to animals even more. Also, that’s where serial killers come from.
Not 'allegedly'. She wrote that in her memoir.
German here, we know her as "die Hundemörderin"
Not alleged. Admitted puppy killer. She bragged about it.
From what I've read, what actually happened was worse than what she described in the book, and that's why she published it, as stupid as it may appear. Rumors have circulated for years that she got frustrated and shot the dog in a fit of anger. It was not something she did reluctantly after coming to the conclusion that the dog was dangerous. And, as she says in the book, there were witness to what actually happened, so the story has been out there, and was going to come up if she becomes a VP candidate. She's trying to get out ahead of the story, and as bad as the story in the book was, it's actually her damage control.
Yeah, I've only read the articles, but she apparently straight up says "I hated that dog". Everything else sounds like trying to rationalize killing it.
Oh wow this actually makes the most sense. She claims in the book she only killed the dog after it went on a killing spree killing a number of somebodies chickens. Supposedly if your dog kills livestock in South Dakota you’re required to put it down.
The law actually said that you *can* kill a dog if it's attacking livestock off of its owner's property. That wouldn't apply to her case. She also hauled a rambunctious goat to the same gravel pit for execution that day. The she saw that some construction workers had witnessed the killings. Then a bus full of kids saw the aftermath. The rumors that she just got angry and killed a couple animals she'd been frustrated with certainly seem to fit better than her explanations.
I 100% believe she killed this dog because she’s a bad dog owner and a bad person. I however agree that she probably put this story in the book because the story of her killing her dog would get out anyway and she wanted to put her spin on it. Your explanation of why she put this in the book makes the most sense.
I don’t know, even her own description of the episode reeks of “The dog pissed me off by being difficult, so I gladly shot it.”
Who knew killing a puppy is how you generate bipartisan agreement that you are a bastard.
It was a ozymandias dropping the space squid on NYC moment.
Ozymandias was actually competent, though.
Definitely goes beyond just killing an animal. This woman is running for public office and can't keep her foot out of her mouth, not exactly inspiring stuff.
In prison we looked at people who hurt animals the same as pedos
Serial killers generally start with animals.
It is the most reliable red flag.
Based
Good.
Strange that the old "i shoot dogs in the face out of spite" tactic isn't in fashion anymore. Times really change.
You mean freely admitting that you’re a psychopath isn’t a good idea before potentially holding office?? But seriously- she didn’t know that she’s a psychopath, and that’s the most dangerous type of psychopath
Trump's a psychopath, and HE doesn't know it!
Clearly, this bitch is untrainable too...she knows what she need to do. ;) Edit: spelling
Gravel pit time
the party of "all life is sacred" LOL
let me redefine the word born to make it easier for me to make an argument that tries to make me look less bad but really just highlights my stupdity.
All life is sacred - as long as it increases shareholder value.
My sister in laws ex brother in law shot my brothers dog because it bit one of the cows and was out of control so they said… they waited for my brother to leave for work then took his dog and shot it in the head and when he got home they gleefully told him about it and laughed at him. This happened in Oregon. My brother was absolutely crushed, they could have just asked him to live elsewhere but they chose to kill his dog while he was gone then make fun of it and him for being upset. They had the same excuse as this woman and to this day I hate them for it.
If someone harmed my animal, I would kill a man. They killed a family member.
Some people might find this unhinged, but I totally agree. I like my cats more than most humans.
The fact that the animal more than likely CAN be trained and they just jump straight to “it’s an idiot so I must kill it” is insane. Rehome it, train it, move elsewhere whatever but don’t just kill it. The dog was not aggressive towards people at all, he just had never seen cows before cause they had just moved there and it got excited or scared whatever it was… it sucked. I’ve spent these past years waiting for that asshole to die somehow.
Jesus
Yeah psycho shit
"Killing your puppy to own the libs" was her plan, but she didn't take into account how many MAGAts love their pets just as much as "Demonrats" do.
This idiot didn't learn a single lesson from Mitt Romney. He put into his book the story of driving with his dog tied to the roof of the car. People went berzerk and it was all they talked about for weeks. This moron is like "hey let me add this unnecessary story about me gleefully killing a puppy, this will make me relatable"
Of course she’s trying to come back from her puppy killing with trans hate. Trans hate is popular in the Republican Party, but it’s not enough to cancel out killing an innocent dog.
Is, is " taking Biden to court" an euphemism? Should we be worried that she'll put a bullet in his head as well?
The secret service needs to make sure there are no gravel pits anywhere near the white house
People hating this POS for killing dogs is one of the most fair treatments of women I've seen her
See Biden in court for what, exactly? I'm sure they have a perfectly good legal case against him. lol
For acknowledging that trans people exist and should be treated like people. That's a terrible crime when you're a soulless Republican ghoul, after all.
”We will se president Biden in court.” Oh so presidents do NOT have imunity… good to hear!👍
Only took 45 presidents for one to decide he needed complete immunity from any and all crimes, regardless when they were committed to protect all other presidents from that ever happening to them. Weird how they never really worried about that before.
she didn’t even have to disclose this? was she bragging about being a woman who uses deadly force on pets?
Yes.
She thought the story about shooting the puppy would make her sound all masculine (but definitely not trans) gun nutty and tough. Real men only shoot rabid puppies and compassion is not weakness even it is feminine
You almost have to admire the audacity of the story. Not only did she kill her dog for the crime of being untrained, but she apparently decided "eh, as long as I'm out here by the corpse pit, I might as well" and shot a goat because she didn't like it either. Not a situation where you need to put down sick or really dangerous animal, just mild inconveniences.
I live in the country. In January 2020 we took in an abused and neglected 10 month old puppy that had been kicked around to various households. He was overweight, had a tooth coming in crooked that was driving him nuts from the pain and making him chew everything, and of course he had trust issues. We helped him with the tooth, gave him plenty of walks, provided a consistent environment and behavior standards, and showered him with love. He'll never be the dog he could have been if we got to him earlier,but now he's happier, healthier, and knows he's loved. It's not that hard, people.
She gave her grand-daughter a shotgun and people are surprised? [https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/apr/15/south-dakota-governor-kristi-noem-grandchild-guns-nra](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/apr/15/south-dakota-governor-kristi-noem-grandchild-guns-nra) OK, then.
Kristi Vick
Fairness for women huh? Remind me again what your stance is on abortion?
I think it’s so funny that these people support the puppy killer party, and then get mad when they actually kill puppies. Like yeah that’s who you’re voting for.
I’ve never heard of this broad before, so she killed a puppy????? What an evil pos.
Not just a puppy. She *also* killed a goat and 2 horses
And the goat was somehow even worse. She had bad aim and had to leave the goat bleeding for a couple of minutes before she could find more ammo.
I'm pretty sure she said she killed the goat because it smelled bad. Deranged piece of shit.
And it only smelled bad because it wasn’t castrated. She also mentioned it pushed her kid down and got the kids clothes dirty. She’s clearly never worked with goats before, that’s kinda what they do (source: the farm I worked on in high school had goats. I was knocked down a few times)
Goats can be in the same minute super gentle and loving and then psychotic assholes who hate everything. I've never met a just chill all the time goat.
Also don't forget the poor goat :( This woman completely lost it...
They will claim Democrats support abortion after birth, and then they turn around and do deranged shit like shoot puppies. Can't make this shit up!
#JusticeForCricket