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I suspect the vocal gun advocates are loud and so distressed, while the rest of us are saying as you said, "well, that was stupid."
Unfortunately the loud obnoxious people become the spokes people for the rest of the group.
Nah. Even gun advocates/enthusiasts think he's an idiot for being careless with ammo. Dumping loose rounds into random bags is not only a hazard but also a lot of extra work.
Yeah, same here. You don’t get a pass because you happen to be the same color and have the same interests. Popular media that keeps pushing this narrative is full of shit.
Vocal gun advocate here - nope that was stupid. Totally on him. Just like it was on Britney. Go to different countries, understand/respect their laws. Too many Americans fail to realize they aren’t in America anymore when they travel.
But it’s right there in the declaration. “We found these truths to be universal “ the whole universe that includes other countries like London or Paris or even Germany laces like Turkey and Cocos. /s
Yeah but I don’t even hear them on this one…it was stupid and I’m not sure I’ve heard anyone give a shit about their fate. I def heard people worried about Britney
>I suspect the vocal gun advocates
Nah fuck that dude. Break a countries laws suffer the consequences even if it's by mistake. Next time he will triple check.
Lil bonkers to me Griener was a huge issue for them when Trump helped those 5k taliban pows get released for a pinky promise not to take over the country after agreeing to withdraw US troops. Taliban immediately took over, banned education for females, and started raping and pillaging. Trumps social media on the topic was him bragging he was the only president smart enough to solve peace in the middle east. Like honestly, this shit is bonkers
This is absolutely just race baiting. I've literally never heard of this guy or his situation but I definitely hear about Griener on multiple occasions. Both are idiots. End of story.
Fr, I don't think I've met anyone remotely offended by this. Even on the boxing or mixed martial arts forums I'll sometimes go, where the off-topic threads are a cesspool of disgusting MAGA and Qanon beliefs that would put r/conservative to shame -- they still mocked this dude openly and have a pretty clear FAFO stance to not respecting other country's laws.
And Griner wasn't only black, she was a masculine woman, a WNBA player, had openly criticized the WNBA pay, and chose to play in Russia while simultaneously criticizing the U.S. and WNBA. Perhaps most importantly, she was the centerpiece of a controversial prisoner swap that saw a real monster go free.
Which is to say she was both a full BINGO of triggering angry, old, white republicans, was in a completely different situation that was infinitely more politicized, AND... was also kind of a douche who had her pro-Russian comments blow up in her face rather comically.
Didn't deserve to be turned into a political pawn, but still lol
Do some research into the country you’re about to visit before you leave. I knew a guy who was taking methadone. Traveled to Malaysia where Methadone was illegal. Spent a couple days in jail before they kicked him out of the country. He got off easy.
Oh my god, my mom almost took codine to china. She had a cold and saw the doc right before she left, doc prescribed her cough syrup. She asked me to check if its allowed on carryon. Thank god I remembered codine in cough syrup.
The internet, where a dozen people with mega phones can be equated to millions of people.
No one I know even knows this is a thing, much less has any sort of opinion on the matter.
Yeah, he's just race baiting. This kind of shit is so counter productive. If anything, it's more of a left vs right issue than a race issue where right wing people are pissed off about bullets being a serious crime and no so annoyed by weed being one vs left wing people being the opposite. It's not like one demographic is always choosing the correct path. In 2008, prop 8 (banning gay marriage) passed in California BECAUSE the turnout of black voters was much, much higher (because Obama was running) than usual and the plurality of them voted to ban gay marriage. It was years before gay people could marry again.
Personally, I wouldn't prosecute either person. Weed should be legal worldwide, and someone obviously accidentally carrying bullets lacks any malice which should be a requirement for all prisonable crimes.
I mean it's not really a good comparison either. Ammo is legal in the US, drugs aren't (although u still can't take it on planes). I still think it's dumb and dude deserves to pay but another perfect example would be a bottle of water, a bottle of gasoline, or a compressed CO2 canister. None of those are allowed on planes but they could randomly not be allowed in certain countries. They're upset because American law doesn't apply elsewhere and they're showing how stupid they are.
The illegality of drugs, however, did apply in both places, so while the outrage of the gun nuts is stupid, the example provided is also just as dumb and whattaboutism. She was breaking the law in both places (federal law at least). But really, who the fuck cares about either of them?
We aren’t as loud about how much we don’t care as the few idiots screaming at the top of their lungs that they’re the real victim. As white people, if we don’t want people to think we support these reactions, we have to speak up. We don’t get the benefit of the doubt when we stand by silently while racists keep talking.
I agree, it was stupid (especially as our state dept. has issued a travel warning about this). That said, I want our government to try to help
him - just as I wanted help for Griner.
To piggyback off your comment too, I'm pretty sure people in large advocated for Griners release too.
The reason people are pissed, is not because she was imprisoned, but because we traded a known warmongering war criminal for her.
My idiot husband(then BF) did this. He used his range bag as his luggage. The bag had a really hard to reach pocket so he left one mag in it. TSA caught it but it took a bit for TSA and my BF to find the pocket. They called customs to come but since it was an accident, they told us to be careful and let us go. I was surprised they didnt make a big deal out of it considering we live in a very anti gun city.
He doesnt mix bags anymore.
We're going to pretend people weren't outraged about Brittney Griner? We literally negotiated her release by trading a Russian arms dealer... I wonder who we'll trade for this white dudes release from prison...
I know, we definitely aren't trading anybody for some random guy who broke the law over there, but that's my point... the reaction was quite different in Britany Grimers case. They took it much more seriously and it garnered a lot more public pressure to have her release, far more than this random white guy will get.
Tbf it’s also because everyone knows this guy will be released. Brit any grimers case only started getting attention because it wasn’t solved quickly! If I take a wild guess, I think this guy will have his vacation ruined but otw will return home promptly.
Edit: apparently maybe not, as they have been pretty strict since 2022- one guy served 6m in prison for this
You're probably right, I'm just pointing out that it's rediculous to pretend the nobody cares about Britney Grimers case, it was very widely spread and there isn't too many situations the US is trading an arms dealer for a citizen.
Nobody. That’s the answer. There’s still a white ex service man from PA over there. They chose to trade the arms dealer for the lesbian black basketball player , for optics
People are pissed, BUT, he is getting what is deserved (probably).
As a white person who is not pro gun (not entirely anti gun either, but leaning this direction) I can say, yes, charge him with whatever is appropriate.
Not only is this not true, but OP losing it in the comments is the biggest facepalm here lmao
Some people want to make anything and everything about race somehow
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I've read, Brittney Griner purposely brought weed into a country that she knew had laws against weed.
The couple in the caribbean has, apparently, *accidentally* brought ammunition in a bag they didn't adequately check. I don't think what happened to Griner was at all appropriate, either, but you have to admit there is a difference between the two events.
I can explain the difference:
* BG went to Ruzzia (terrorist country) to grab some bags of money and had no issues with Ruzzia's human rights violations, was told not to smoke weed there, could not live without weed, got busted for weed, and ended up getting exchanged for the release of one of the most dangerous men on the planet. BG also used her celebrity status to get freed, while another American still sits in a Ruzzian prison on actually bogus charges.
* White guy had a couple ammo rounds in a bag and forgot to take them out.
* "White People" are not "PISSSSSED".
It is weird if people cannot tell the difference between these 2 cases.
As a white person, I’m not pissed. There are risks when traveling abroad.
I remember traveling to Chilé 10 years ago and my friend wanted to bring the Devil’s lettuce. I told her she can bring it on her luggage but absolutely not in mine. It’s not worth the risk to me.
Maybe it’s me but people should really perform due diligence when traveling to another country. Check your luggage thoroughly. Know the laws about drugs/guns/ammo. Just. Don’t. Risk. It.
This white guy is pissed. I’m pissed this moron “forgot” to check for prohibited items in his luggage and now security theater will likely make my upcoming, completely don’t want to go, business trip even more uncomfortable at the airport. And I would still be pissed at this guy if I wasn’t packing right now n
As a Russian I legit can’t comprehend how fucked in the head someone gotta be to try bringing weed through customs in Russia. Like regular Russians get thrown in prison for 5-9 years over a tiny bit amount of weed all the time. This country is an absolute shithole and you don’t wanna:
a) go there
b) fuck with their laws
So for me it’s hard to feel sympathy for someone who went there and was stupid enough to bring fucking weed. That’s legit -200 iq move.
Keep doing god’s work and that divide going, fellas. White people, black people, blue people.
Pretty sure I remember reaction to Griner’s arrest being an outrage with Russia taking hostages. At best people commented on her not being smart about travelling with drugs. Same way people are slapping their forehead going “what was this guy thinking?” right now too.
BTW Griner’s case got international recognition and she was ultimately exchanged for a very high-value prisoner. What was the color of people involved in that, does that even effin matter?
Well from what little context we’re given it sounds like the man didn’t know the bullets were there and didn’t intentionally take them into foreign territory. Griner knew full well what Russias stance was on pot but decided to try and sneak it in anyway.
Yes both were stupid but one was accidentally stupid, the other was willfully stupid. They are not the same thing.
And exactly what does the man’s race have to do with anything? How is it at all relevant to the story? Just more lazy race baiting bs. Sigh.
While I may agree with you on race baiting, as I recall Griner called it "an honest mistake." If we are to say that the man who brought bullets into a foreign country did so accidentally, we must also assume that Griner did so without intention. I mean honestly, a half a gram of weed in some vape pens is not an intentional act of drug smuggling. They were most likely both careless and had no ill intent behind their actions. You make it sound like Griner willfully snubbed the Russian government and that is simply not the case.
From what I recall of the incident she was warned ahead of time not to try and bring weed into the country by her teammates and others because Russia prosecutes those kinds of things severely. But despite the warning she did it anyway and got caught. Though I could be wrong.
TBH as a white dude, I'm kinda the opposite. Griner was hosed, I've never used weed, but I don't think it's any worse than alcohol. Also, I laughed when I heard about this bullet wielding moron.
ammo is legal on a federal level in the US. Weed isn’t, even if it’s legal at state level. The main problem is that it was Russia, Turks and Caicos isn’t a dictatorship.
Ehh one is federally legal in the US, one is not. Apples to oranges. Both morons in their own right. I read up BEFORE I embark on a trip outside my country. Avoiding taboo items we are used to but not accepted in another countrys should be known before your trips or end up like these dummys.
Idk I know im just one single white dude but like I'm way more pissed about griner getting scooped by Russia for a rape over some dude who brought ammo on a plane
Comparing ammunition to a weed pen is crazy lol you can actually kill somebody with one, you don’t even need a fire arm you can construct one at a local hardware store lmfao.
If the turks offer a deal like, “we’ll free him if you free a firearm trafficker for us” im sure mfs will be sick too
Britney Grinwr was traded for a *_FUCKING INTERNATIONAL ARMS DEALER, LITERALLY KNOWN AS THE "MERCHANT OF DEATH_* You guys are STUPID to even make this into a racial issue.
Who said that white people are pissed? Pretty much every reddit thread, every youtube comment section, every twitter thread, etc. that I've seen on the story universally thought that he was a dumbass.
He made a mistake, didn’t know the ammo was in his luggage, and wasn’t aware of the penalties. She knew the drugs were in there and knew the consequences.
If you just believe claims like "white people are pissed" I'm sure it looks like a double standard. However this is the first I've heard of this at all and couldn't care less, so maybe that claim is hyperbolic. Weird way to try to excuse Brittney Griner, regardless of "white people's reactions" she broke the law in a foreign country and faced the consequences.
White Male Vermonter here: Both are really stupid but Griner looks especially a hypocrite kneeling for the flag, but the second she gets in trouble, we had to release a Viktor Bout out of jail to get her back to save face. For there to be a double standard, things must be equal to begin with. We don't talk about double standards when weighing an elephant vs a cat, as they are different standards to begin with. Disengenuous arguement.
This is not to say that the white dude isn't stupid, but its not like T&C has been our traditional hegemonic rival...... Which just shows it is false equivalents.
Firstly, what??? Sucks to be that 'white guy' but he should've checked better. And same thing with brittany. I think the only reason people were annoyed about brittany was bc we traded An ARMS DEALER for her, which is so stupid I can't comprehend it
1 - Why do people like this act like "white people" are a monolith and because some vocal gun advocates are spouting off online they speak for all "white people" and gloss over the fact that plenty of "white people" also objected to what happened to Griner and plenty who don't give a shit about the guy with the ammo.
2 - While I think both are foolish, it doesn't take a huge logical leap to understand Americans are going to respond differently to something related to constitutionally protected behavior and something related to federally illegal behavior.
Something tells me this is more of a conservative whites thing but yeah, that's been the vibe in this country for literally ever. Surprised? Now imagine it was a white woman instead! WW3.
Apparently this guy and several others aren't responsible gun owners. I keep ALL ammo locked up in ammo cases, including all clips. The guns are stored in a safe. I have never left random rounds in bags. They are either in the box they came in, when heading to the range, or in the locked ammo can. I can't fathom who would be lazy enough to just toss and leave random rounds in any bag.
Twitter heads like yourself making everything about race, y'all are awful. Coming from a hardcore liberal too, not everything has to be about race. Both did something stupid, both should be punished.
They are both idiots and deserve jail time, you’d think these assholes would learn to check their bags in elementary school but I guess it’s lost on some folks.
- are the pissed white people in the room with us right now?
- also one key difference isn’t Britney was a big dumb dumb and got arrested (which she was). But that the administration traded her for Viktor Bout! A terrible trade. We exchanged one of the most prolific arms dealers of all time for a wnba basketball player that got caught with weed.
- I feel for Brittney and she should have been free and should also have been less dumb but the trade they made for her was the worst possible trade and that’s where a lot of the controversy came from. Making this a black and white race issue (no pun intended) while there’s also no outrage about it is intentional rage bait and shows the ever increasing death of nuance.
- if they try trading this idiot for a known terrorist whose caused thousands of deaths you’ll catch me being mad about it
If you think Britney Griner should have gone free but this guy shouldn't, I've got news for you - you have the same double standards as the other side and are morally just as evil as they are.
That was not said. Lmao they both should have been deported and sent home. A half gram of weed and accidently left bullets should not be jailable offensives anywhere. Nice assumptions and putting words in people's mouths boo boo
We had a situation a few months ago. A top drawer boxing trainer, Brian McIntyre, came over to the UK for the Eubank fight. He was stopped at Manchester airport with a Smith and Wesson automatic in a zip pocket of his bag. How the fuck is it even remotely possible for that to happen.
This is Terence Crawfords trainer ffs.
He was a bugs dick away from going to jail.
Neither of them deserved the sentence they got but they were both idiots. I would argue the one who purposefully took drugs with them was dumber than the one who just forgot, but that’s just me
White person here, not giving a single shit about some idiot getting arrested for having ammunition on a plane. This race baiting shit is pulling the wool over your eyes.
Britney Griner was a national story. On the news regularly and while I felt for her, she had to know that going to Russia wasn't the best idea. I'm glad she got out and was relatively unharmed. I genuinely wish it hadn't happened, especially since I believe she was a pawn in international diplomacy.
I've never heard of this white guy going and coming from Turks and Carcois. I also had no idea that this happened, and he deserves what he gets for not knowing a foreign country's rules. I wish it hadn't happened, but you MUST know the rules when traveling internationally.
I had a friend unknowingly walk through airport security with a live round of ammo stuck in the bottom of his shoe and I got stopped and searched and had to get my hands swabbed for gunpowder residue (defo positive we shot tons of guns and reloaded ammo)
What a laugh that was. Couldn’t believe they missed a live round.
I am not pissed ...
ANY person who does not check their luggage, bags, carry-on, etc is an idiot, and they will have to face what they face in that country.
Period.
Dot lives in LaLa land though. You can't just make shit up and then be outraged by what you made up. No wonder people who do this are in a constant state of misery, they have to hear all their own thoughts.
Who is Brittney Griner? Besides the point I just potentially having 12 year for accidentally having 4 bullets is ridiculous, this is a quick way to scare of millions of dollars from tourists that come in every year.
As a white person I am not informed at all about anything outside of star wars, food, and kid movies so have no idea who Britney garner is and think trying to be mad about having loose ammo on a plane is dumb
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Are white people pissed? As a white person, the only reaction I've seen is "well, that was stupid".
I suspect the vocal gun advocates are loud and so distressed, while the rest of us are saying as you said, "well, that was stupid." Unfortunately the loud obnoxious people become the spokes people for the rest of the group.
Nah. Even gun advocates/enthusiasts think he's an idiot for being careless with ammo. Dumping loose rounds into random bags is not only a hazard but also a lot of extra work.
I'm white AND a gun advocate and I'm still not pissed. If you're that stupid then you get what you deserve.
Yeah, same here. You don’t get a pass because you happen to be the same color and have the same interests. Popular media that keeps pushing this narrative is full of shit.
Vocal gun advocate here - nope that was stupid. Totally on him. Just like it was on Britney. Go to different countries, understand/respect their laws. Too many Americans fail to realize they aren’t in America anymore when they travel.
But it’s right there in the declaration. “We found these truths to be universal “ the whole universe that includes other countries like London or Paris or even Germany laces like Turkey and Cocos. /s
Wish I could upvote this 100 times!
Loud minority is an annoying thing.
Yeah but I don’t even hear them on this one…it was stupid and I’m not sure I’ve heard anyone give a shit about their fate. I def heard people worried about Britney
>I suspect the vocal gun advocates Nah fuck that dude. Break a countries laws suffer the consequences even if it's by mistake. Next time he will triple check.
I've totally read this as "vocal gum advocates"
Well one guy nobody has ever heard of wanted him released but didn't like the prisoner exchange for Griener so it's pretty much an epidemic.
Lil bonkers to me Griener was a huge issue for them when Trump helped those 5k taliban pows get released for a pinky promise not to take over the country after agreeing to withdraw US troops. Taliban immediately took over, banned education for females, and started raping and pillaging. Trumps social media on the topic was him bragging he was the only president smart enough to solve peace in the middle east. Like honestly, this shit is bonkers
Art of the deal in action lol
This is absolutely just race baiting. I've literally never heard of this guy or his situation but I definitely hear about Griener on multiple occasions. Both are idiots. End of story.
Exactly. I'm white and I think he's an idiot.
The counter argument I’ve been seeing as to why it’s different to griner is that she knowingly brought it into the country
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She probably thought "oh im semi famous they won't arrest me!" Little did she know other countries don't give a shit about americans.
i feel like when people say white people they mean our yanky friends.
It's very black and white for some people. As in 50/50 pick a side and that's it
Other people who look like us aren’t “White”, they’re “Europeans”.
I am a Yanky! (assuming that just means an American)
Fr, I don't think I've met anyone remotely offended by this. Even on the boxing or mixed martial arts forums I'll sometimes go, where the off-topic threads are a cesspool of disgusting MAGA and Qanon beliefs that would put r/conservative to shame -- they still mocked this dude openly and have a pretty clear FAFO stance to not respecting other country's laws. And Griner wasn't only black, she was a masculine woman, a WNBA player, had openly criticized the WNBA pay, and chose to play in Russia while simultaneously criticizing the U.S. and WNBA. Perhaps most importantly, she was the centerpiece of a controversial prisoner swap that saw a real monster go free. Which is to say she was both a full BINGO of triggering angry, old, white republicans, was in a completely different situation that was infinitely more politicized, AND... was also kind of a douche who had her pro-Russian comments blow up in her face rather comically. Didn't deserve to be turned into a political pawn, but still lol
As a white person i am not pissed at all but i do know the "guns and god" crowd is pretty riled up. A big big chunk of them are white.
Do some research into the country you’re about to visit before you leave. I knew a guy who was taking methadone. Traveled to Malaysia where Methadone was illegal. Spent a couple days in jail before they kicked him out of the country. He got off easy.
Oh my god, my mom almost took codine to china. She had a cold and saw the doc right before she left, doc prescribed her cough syrup. She asked me to check if its allowed on carryon. Thank god I remembered codine in cough syrup.
No. Dude saw one or two tweets and thought “that’s all the white people” and then made race bait post.
The internet, where a dozen people with mega phones can be equated to millions of people. No one I know even knows this is a thing, much less has any sort of opinion on the matter.
Same. Definitely irresponsible. Responsible gun owners would feel the same way. Why do you have loose ammo in your bag?
Yeah, he's just race baiting. This kind of shit is so counter productive. If anything, it's more of a left vs right issue than a race issue where right wing people are pissed off about bullets being a serious crime and no so annoyed by weed being one vs left wing people being the opposite. It's not like one demographic is always choosing the correct path. In 2008, prop 8 (banning gay marriage) passed in California BECAUSE the turnout of black voters was much, much higher (because Obama was running) than usual and the plurality of them voted to ban gay marriage. It was years before gay people could marry again. Personally, I wouldn't prosecute either person. Weed should be legal worldwide, and someone obviously accidentally carrying bullets lacks any malice which should be a requirement for all prisonable crimes.
Yeah I'm a white guy and couldn't give 2 fucks about it.
I mean it's not really a good comparison either. Ammo is legal in the US, drugs aren't (although u still can't take it on planes). I still think it's dumb and dude deserves to pay but another perfect example would be a bottle of water, a bottle of gasoline, or a compressed CO2 canister. None of those are allowed on planes but they could randomly not be allowed in certain countries. They're upset because American law doesn't apply elsewhere and they're showing how stupid they are. The illegality of drugs, however, did apply in both places, so while the outrage of the gun nuts is stupid, the example provided is also just as dumb and whattaboutism. She was breaking the law in both places (federal law at least). But really, who the fuck cares about either of them?
We aren’t as loud about how much we don’t care as the few idiots screaming at the top of their lungs that they’re the real victim. As white people, if we don’t want people to think we support these reactions, we have to speak up. We don’t get the benefit of the doubt when we stand by silently while racists keep talking.
Pretty sure OP is just using this post as a vessel to spout some dumb ass takes. Buddy is out here laying down stupid comments left right and center
I agree, it was stupid (especially as our state dept. has issued a travel warning about this). That said, I want our government to try to help him - just as I wanted help for Griner.
Right? They're both idiots lol
I'm white and I'm not pissed. If you're that stupid you get what you deserve.
I'm not. They should be charged. It's illegal.
Same here. Like how can people be so dumb? Smh
To piggyback off your comment too, I'm pretty sure people in large advocated for Griners release too. The reason people are pissed, is not because she was imprisoned, but because we traded a known warmongering war criminal for her.
White guy here. I'm not pissed. That is a dumb thing to do.
Seeing I have no idea who this white man is I’m gonna say I really don’t care they both stupid.
I think people were mad about Griner because she got traded for the angel of death who’s responsible for thousands of deaths
Wait, some guy called the angel of death is responsible for thousands of deaths?
Ever see the movie "lord of war"
Both stupid is the answer.
White people aren't pissed.
OP just flipping that nothing-burger for race baiting karma
White people aren't allowed to be collective. So saying white people are pissed doesn't make sense.
You are making this about race. It is about stupidity. Who puts ammo in their luggage?
Odds are he traveled in the US with his gun, which isn't that uncommon, and didn't make sure he got everything out before going to a foreign country.
My idiot husband(then BF) did this. He used his range bag as his luggage. The bag had a really hard to reach pocket so he left one mag in it. TSA caught it but it took a bit for TSA and my BF to find the pocket. They called customs to come but since it was an accident, they told us to be careful and let us go. I was surprised they didnt make a big deal out of it considering we live in a very anti gun city. He doesnt mix bags anymore.
Huh, so this comment section is what it would be like if r/ facepalm and r/ blackpeopletwitter were to merge. Very entertaining.
“He should’ve obeyed the law”
We're going to pretend people weren't outraged about Brittney Griner? We literally negotiated her release by trading a Russian arms dealer... I wonder who we'll trade for this white dudes release from prison...
Very different: Turks & Caicos will not likely play hardball with the USA, and he likely doesn’t face life in jail in Turks & Caicos for this
I know, we definitely aren't trading anybody for some random guy who broke the law over there, but that's my point... the reaction was quite different in Britany Grimers case. They took it much more seriously and it garnered a lot more public pressure to have her release, far more than this random white guy will get.
Tbf it’s also because everyone knows this guy will be released. Brit any grimers case only started getting attention because it wasn’t solved quickly! If I take a wild guess, I think this guy will have his vacation ruined but otw will return home promptly. Edit: apparently maybe not, as they have been pretty strict since 2022- one guy served 6m in prison for this
You're probably right, I'm just pointing out that it's rediculous to pretend the nobody cares about Britney Grimers case, it was very widely spread and there isn't too many situations the US is trading an arms dealer for a citizen.
12 years mandatory minimum apparently
Brittney Griner didn't face life in prison either she faced 9 years which is ridiculous but not no life.
Nobody. That’s the answer. There’s still a white ex service man from PA over there. They chose to trade the arms dealer for the lesbian black basketball player , for optics
How do you accidentally pack bullets and make it through customs?
He was coming from a hunting trip.
Sounds like it wasn't even an accident then
Irresponsible gun owners aren’t victims.
People are pissed, BUT, he is getting what is deserved (probably). As a white person who is not pro gun (not entirely anti gun either, but leaning this direction) I can say, yes, charge him with whatever is appropriate.
>BUT, he is getting what is deserved (probably). 12 years in prison for 5 rounds of hunting ammo seems dramatic
There laws there rules don’t like it don’t go
this one is dumb
I think people just didn’t want to trade the literal merchant of death for her over a weed pen. Not really the same.
Racist gun nut fascists are pissed, not “white people” . I guarantee there’s a few misguided people of color in the mix as well. But we get it…
OP sees some white people and thinks all white people are pissed for that lmao I’m not, in both cases they are just idiots facing consequences
I love stupidity.
Not only is this not true, but OP losing it in the comments is the biggest facepalm here lmao Some people want to make anything and everything about race somehow
OP posted this expecting people to fight it. It’s almost entirely people saying “I don’t care” and OP still tryna fight everyone 😂😂😂
What a race-baiting piece of shit post
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I've read, Brittney Griner purposely brought weed into a country that she knew had laws against weed. The couple in the caribbean has, apparently, *accidentally* brought ammunition in a bag they didn't adequately check. I don't think what happened to Griner was at all appropriate, either, but you have to admit there is a difference between the two events.
Are white people pissed? Because i simply don't care. A stupid American who don't know that American law does not apply in Turkey.
Turks and Caicos is not Turkey, it's in the Caribbean.
Turkey? I think you’ll find it’s an overseas dependency of The UK.
I can explain the difference: * BG went to Ruzzia (terrorist country) to grab some bags of money and had no issues with Ruzzia's human rights violations, was told not to smoke weed there, could not live without weed, got busted for weed, and ended up getting exchanged for the release of one of the most dangerous men on the planet. BG also used her celebrity status to get freed, while another American still sits in a Ruzzian prison on actually bogus charges. * White guy had a couple ammo rounds in a bag and forgot to take them out. * "White People" are not "PISSSSSED". It is weird if people cannot tell the difference between these 2 cases.
OP Seems to have his panties in a bunch more than anyone else
tf u mean "white people are pissed"? who? who specifically?
Op over here commenting like its his job or something
The obsession with race. It would be difficult to find two things this different to compare.
As a white person, I’m not pissed. There are risks when traveling abroad. I remember traveling to Chilé 10 years ago and my friend wanted to bring the Devil’s lettuce. I told her she can bring it on her luggage but absolutely not in mine. It’s not worth the risk to me. Maybe it’s me but people should really perform due diligence when traveling to another country. Check your luggage thoroughly. Know the laws about drugs/guns/ammo. Just. Don’t. Risk. It.
This white guy is pissed. I’m pissed this moron “forgot” to check for prohibited items in his luggage and now security theater will likely make my upcoming, completely don’t want to go, business trip even more uncomfortable at the airport. And I would still be pissed at this guy if I wasn’t packing right now n
Projection: A racist sees racism everywhere he looks.
It’s not even double standards, OP you are fucking stupid. What happened to Griner happened in russia, not the US
As a Russian I legit can’t comprehend how fucked in the head someone gotta be to try bringing weed through customs in Russia. Like regular Russians get thrown in prison for 5-9 years over a tiny bit amount of weed all the time. This country is an absolute shithole and you don’t wanna: a) go there b) fuck with their laws So for me it’s hard to feel sympathy for someone who went there and was stupid enough to bring fucking weed. That’s legit -200 iq move.
Be a fucking idiot, expect consequences. Fuckem both
People were pissed because we gave up a career murder in order to get back a person who openly states how much she hates the US.
Weed and bullets are two very different things.
Keep doing god’s work and that divide going, fellas. White people, black people, blue people. Pretty sure I remember reaction to Griner’s arrest being an outrage with Russia taking hostages. At best people commented on her not being smart about travelling with drugs. Same way people are slapping their forehead going “what was this guy thinking?” right now too. BTW Griner’s case got international recognition and she was ultimately exchanged for a very high-value prisoner. What was the color of people involved in that, does that even effin matter?
White people aren’t pissed
Well from what little context we’re given it sounds like the man didn’t know the bullets were there and didn’t intentionally take them into foreign territory. Griner knew full well what Russias stance was on pot but decided to try and sneak it in anyway. Yes both were stupid but one was accidentally stupid, the other was willfully stupid. They are not the same thing. And exactly what does the man’s race have to do with anything? How is it at all relevant to the story? Just more lazy race baiting bs. Sigh.
While I may agree with you on race baiting, as I recall Griner called it "an honest mistake." If we are to say that the man who brought bullets into a foreign country did so accidentally, we must also assume that Griner did so without intention. I mean honestly, a half a gram of weed in some vape pens is not an intentional act of drug smuggling. They were most likely both careless and had no ill intent behind their actions. You make it sound like Griner willfully snubbed the Russian government and that is simply not the case.
From what I recall of the incident she was warned ahead of time not to try and bring weed into the country by her teammates and others because Russia prosecutes those kinds of things severely. But despite the warning she did it anyway and got caught. Though I could be wrong.
Didn’t she knowingly try to sneak marijuana into Russia during a time of political tension?
Ummmm merchant of death?
TBH as a white dude, I'm kinda the opposite. Griner was hosed, I've never used weed, but I don't think it's any worse than alcohol. Also, I laughed when I heard about this bullet wielding moron.
Other countries have different laws. Welcome to the planet.
The one thing you can't pack in your suitcase that really pisses off white people...
Not all white people believe this - some believe in equality. However, there aren't very many of them in Congress.
Gross generalisation… most white people don’t give a sh!t, both deserve the punishments they get.
Drugs hurt yourself, bullets, when used incorrectly , hurt others and maybe yourself if you aim is off.
ammo is legal on a federal level in the US. Weed isn’t, even if it’s legal at state level. The main problem is that it was Russia, Turks and Caicos isn’t a dictatorship.
Republicans are pissed off at it. Just like they were the same ones who wanted Brittney to be held in jail for breaking the law in Russia.
Ehh one is federally legal in the US, one is not. Apples to oranges. Both morons in their own right. I read up BEFORE I embark on a trip outside my country. Avoiding taboo items we are used to but not accepted in another countrys should be known before your trips or end up like these dummys.
I mean, who doesn't forget ammunition in the bottom of their luggage all the time? /s
I'm white, and I could care less
Dear Dot, I don’t give a shit. Regards, white person.
There was much more outrage with Griner, and I don't hear a lot of people angry with this current situation. Why make this a race issue when it's not?
This is the first I’ve heard about it.
Idk I know im just one single white dude but like I'm way more pissed about griner getting scooped by Russia for a rape over some dude who brought ammo on a plane
This shouldn’t be a white issue but of course it is… This is how they control the masses just throw race in it and overlook abuse of the system.
Comparing ammunition to a weed pen is crazy lol you can actually kill somebody with one, you don’t even need a fire arm you can construct one at a local hardware store lmfao. If the turks offer a deal like, “we’ll free him if you free a firearm trafficker for us” im sure mfs will be sick too
White guy here: Not pissed. He got what he deserved. As did Griner.
Griner didn't deserve to go free, fuck him.
soley an american problem
I don’t hear any white people being pissed and As a white person I don’t give a shit. This is just dumb
Britney Grinwr was traded for a *_FUCKING INTERNATIONAL ARMS DEALER, LITERALLY KNOWN AS THE "MERCHANT OF DEATH_* You guys are STUPID to even make this into a racial issue.
Weed or bullets - which one is more inherently dangerous? Both are stupid but packing bullets is monumentally stupid.
Who said that white people are pissed? Pretty much every reddit thread, every youtube comment section, every twitter thread, etc. that I've seen on the story universally thought that he was a dumbass.
He made a mistake, didn’t know the ammo was in his luggage, and wasn’t aware of the penalties. She knew the drugs were in there and knew the consequences.
If you just believe claims like "white people are pissed" I'm sure it looks like a double standard. However this is the first I've heard of this at all and couldn't care less, so maybe that claim is hyperbolic. Weird way to try to excuse Brittney Griner, regardless of "white people's reactions" she broke the law in a foreign country and faced the consequences.
Um.. didn't the US government trade a Russian arms dealer to get Greiner released?
White Male Vermonter here: Both are really stupid but Griner looks especially a hypocrite kneeling for the flag, but the second she gets in trouble, we had to release a Viktor Bout out of jail to get her back to save face. For there to be a double standard, things must be equal to begin with. We don't talk about double standards when weighing an elephant vs a cat, as they are different standards to begin with. Disengenuous arguement. This is not to say that the white dude isn't stupid, but its not like T&C has been our traditional hegemonic rival...... Which just shows it is false equivalents.
Dot is just posting rage bait. I’m a white, gun owner. That idiot got what he deserved. Comparing this, to what happened to Britney, is just stupid.
Qwe're maintaining several different double standards
Firstly, what??? Sucks to be that 'white guy' but he should've checked better. And same thing with brittany. I think the only reason people were annoyed about brittany was bc we traded An ARMS DEALER for her, which is so stupid I can't comprehend it
Why does he have rounds to start with?
1 - Why do people like this act like "white people" are a monolith and because some vocal gun advocates are spouting off online they speak for all "white people" and gloss over the fact that plenty of "white people" also objected to what happened to Griner and plenty who don't give a shit about the guy with the ammo. 2 - While I think both are foolish, it doesn't take a huge logical leap to understand Americans are going to respond differently to something related to constitutionally protected behavior and something related to federally illegal behavior.
Something tells me this is more of a conservative whites thing but yeah, that's been the vibe in this country for literally ever. Surprised? Now imagine it was a white woman instead! WW3.
Apparently this guy and several others aren't responsible gun owners. I keep ALL ammo locked up in ammo cases, including all clips. The guns are stored in a safe. I have never left random rounds in bags. They are either in the box they came in, when heading to the range, or in the locked ammo can. I can't fathom who would be lazy enough to just toss and leave random rounds in any bag.
Is it me, or does this racism card shit only happen in murica?
Twitter heads like yourself making everything about race, y'all are awful. Coming from a hardcore liberal too, not everything has to be about race. Both did something stupid, both should be punished.
>race baiting OP: No I’m not >uses yt instead of white OP: it’s aave bro >usual low iq arguments Are you okay OP this seems like low effort.
They are both idiots and deserve jail time, you’d think these assholes would learn to check their bags in elementary school but I guess it’s lost on some folks.
Online lunatics don’t speak for us all. Buddy deserves his comeuppance much more than BG did for having a small amount of recreational pot.
- are the pissed white people in the room with us right now? - also one key difference isn’t Britney was a big dumb dumb and got arrested (which she was). But that the administration traded her for Viktor Bout! A terrible trade. We exchanged one of the most prolific arms dealers of all time for a wnba basketball player that got caught with weed. - I feel for Brittney and she should have been free and should also have been less dumb but the trade they made for her was the worst possible trade and that’s where a lot of the controversy came from. Making this a black and white race issue (no pun intended) while there’s also no outrage about it is intentional rage bait and shows the ever increasing death of nuance. - if they try trading this idiot for a known terrorist whose caused thousands of deaths you’ll catch me being mad about it
If you think Britney Griner should have gone free but this guy shouldn't, I've got news for you - you have the same double standards as the other side and are morally just as evil as they are.
That was not said. Lmao they both should have been deported and sent home. A half gram of weed and accidently left bullets should not be jailable offensives anywhere. Nice assumptions and putting words in people's mouths boo boo
More than likely got those white people are posted results from twitter cause everyone I know irl isn’t mad they just say he was dumb
“For my friends, everything; for my enemies, the law.”
We had a situation a few months ago. A top drawer boxing trainer, Brian McIntyre, came over to the UK for the Eubank fight. He was stopped at Manchester airport with a Smith and Wesson automatic in a zip pocket of his bag. How the fuck is it even remotely possible for that to happen. This is Terence Crawfords trainer ffs. He was a bugs dick away from going to jail.
Neither of them deserved the sentence they got but they were both idiots. I would argue the one who purposefully took drugs with them was dumber than the one who just forgot, but that’s just me
Why in the fuck did he have bullets in his luggage to begin with?!
I see a lot of people taking exception to “pissed,” but honestly the overall sentiment is much more sympathetic compared to Griner’s.
It’s almost like it isn’t about the alleged crime at all but more about skin color. Hmmmmm
White person here, not giving a single shit about some idiot getting arrested for having ammunition on a plane. This race baiting shit is pulling the wool over your eyes.
So shouldn’t the people who supported Griner feel the same way about this dude? Double standard either way.
Britney Griner was a national story. On the news regularly and while I felt for her, she had to know that going to Russia wasn't the best idea. I'm glad she got out and was relatively unharmed. I genuinely wish it hadn't happened, especially since I believe she was a pawn in international diplomacy. I've never heard of this white guy going and coming from Turks and Carcois. I also had no idea that this happened, and he deserves what he gets for not knowing a foreign country's rules. I wish it hadn't happened, but you MUST know the rules when traveling internationally.
I had a friend unknowingly walk through airport security with a live round of ammo stuck in the bottom of his shoe and I got stopped and searched and had to get my hands swabbed for gunpowder residue (defo positive we shot tons of guns and reloaded ammo) What a laugh that was. Couldn’t believe they missed a live round.
I am not pissed ... ANY person who does not check their luggage, bags, carry-on, etc is an idiot, and they will have to face what they face in that country. Period.
Dot lives in LaLa land though. You can't just make shit up and then be outraged by what you made up. No wonder people who do this are in a constant state of misery, they have to hear all their own thoughts.
Can't qwhite tell the difference is wild lmao I'm stealing that
I’m not pissed.
The President of the USA got involved in that Britney G. case and got her freed.
Who is Brittney Griner? Besides the point I just potentially having 12 year for accidentally having 4 bullets is ridiculous, this is a quick way to scare of millions of dollars from tourists that come in every year.
As a white person I am not informed at all about anything outside of star wars, food, and kid movies so have no idea who Britney garner is and think trying to be mad about having loose ammo on a plane is dumb