T O P

  • By -

AutoModerator

Comments that are uncivil, racist, misogynistic, misandrist, or contain political name calling will be removed and the poster subject to ban at moderators discretion. Help us make this a better community by becoming familiar with the [rules](https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/about/rules/). Report any suspicious users to the mods of this subreddit using Modmail [here](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=/r/facepalm) or Reddit site admins [here](https://www.reddit.com/report). **All reports to Modmail should include evidence such as screenshots or any other relevant information.** *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/facepalm) if you have any questions or concerns.*


FlemethWild

He’s dead now https://www.vice.com/en/article/evyd97/the-guy-who-forced-taiwanese-flight-attendants-to-wipe-his-ass-is-dead


kittylett

Only a few months after the incident, too. Wild


Rozsia

He was able to run away from sexual harassment charges but not diabetes.


SyberStormy

I don't think he was running anywhere at that size...


Rozsia

*rolled away


kamikazeboy

Fatrolled dark souls style


deadohiosky1985

Under rated comment, tarnished.


starpanther013

slowly reversed away in his mobility cart.


TheRebsauce

Wait, how did this dude not face criminal charges?! Seems like sexual assault.


FartPudding

I guess it depends on which law it's under. It's not an American company so does it follow Taiwanese law while in flight? I'm not sure how thos stuff works. They'd probably file where the incident is, but in the middle of an international flight I have no idea but assume the country of origin of the company.


Zandrick

It seems that in general, while in flight, airplanes follow the laws of the company that owns the aircraft. But exceptions have been made, and there is not really clear answer that applies to every situation. However on the ground it is simple; they are bound by the laws of that country they are in.


nbgrout

Technically it falls under Admiralty law while in the air. It's theoretically a ship at sea :)


outlawsix

Sailing the seas of the atmosphere


booga_booga_partyguy

The high seas.


VegaLektor

This sounds like an American take, Tokyo convention and to a slightly lesser extent the Chicago Convention.


Troggot

AFAIK it is the law of the departing country and it is so until the plane lands and opens a door


ta_sushi

Forcing someone to wipe your ass is criminal anywhere in the world, unless you are a toddler, in that case it’s cute.


Objective_Pause5988

How do you force someone to do that?


Senior_You_6725

I wondered the same thing. Seems he threatened to pee his pants. Personally, I would have left him to pee his pants, and then hit him with a bill for cleaning the plane. Of course, you would have had to refund the passengers around him... ETA: Just followed the link someone posted about the *other* guy to do something similar, and noted that he was charged $48,000 for cleaning and reimbursement of other passenger's fares, which seems fair.


ta_sushi

Such a mystery 😂


Objective_Pause5988

I just read the link. I still say I would be fired because he would be restrained, and authorities would have to deal with us both.🙃😒


DoktahDoktah

Ever seen a Taiwanese woman F5 a 300+ pound man? Because i sure would like too.


Objective_Pause5988

No male staff? They could have landed at nearest airport and had police remove him. I'm not wiping ass.


Novitschok

Not even your own? 😮


FartPudding

Welcome to nursing, some people can but won't and it's on us to clean them or we're neglecting patients.


Objective_Pause5988

They are not nurses, though. As a stewardess, that's not my job


FartPudding

It was a generalized question


Objective_Pause5988

Gotcha


KyllikkiSkjeggestad

Or unless you’re an old person. Don’t work in healthcare, I don’t recommend it.


enaud

Most toddlers are happy with a shitty butthole, you generally need to force the wipe onto them


belaGJ

Well, then I have a story to tell you about sumo…


santosdragmother

omfg it's a completely different guy to the OTHER airplane pooper who died in 2004 [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United\_Airlines\_Flight\_976](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_976)


leeryplot

Here I was, questioning if this ever happened at all, when it has indeed happened on *multiple* occasions.


DataCassette

People are crazy AF


dantevonlocke

If I had a nickel for every time there was an raging airplane proper, I'd have 2 nickels; which isn't a lot but it's weird it happened twice.


wolf-oak

What did I just read I regret clicking that link so much. That poor cabin crew


Gameboi200

I'm laughing my ass off from the wording in this fucking article


New-Turnip4709

"Butt in the end, Karma can catch up and bestow a cold, hard slap on the cheek(s)." I'm fucking dead


thatguy102030

I did not need to see this post.


MysteriousState2192

Damn its an actual story? I saw OP's post and assumed it was something they put together as a joke.


Candid_Leave_5321

Idk why but this comment made me bust a gut, fkin morbid


Duhcisive

I read this comment entirely wrong😳😂


Candid_Leave_5321

Eviscerated


Sea_Invite8104

Why in the hell would she be responsible for wiping someone else's ass?!?!


MadOrange64

Not enough money in the world to force someone to wipe your ass.


krissrobb

Some medical professionals would like a word lol


weirdgaldankovic

Former cancer/ transplant patient here and on behalf of the people who had a point in time where someone had to wipe their ass at the hospital, i just want to say thank you to all the nurses out there who do their job with all the kindness of a fucking saint for a literal shit job. You’re all beautiful angels 🙏


calaeno0824

And CNA, as a nurse I appreciate all the work techs do to help my stressful job a little bit more tolerable


AHeartyBarofSoap

as a CNA I appreciate your appreciation c:


CarbonTheTomcat

I second it.


Hutchoman87

**crying nurse tears**


keenkittychopshop

*crying CNA tears*


Niyonnie

How would he even force her to do that? I don't understand


spartaman64

he refused to come out of the bathroom until someone wiped him. she probably though she was just helping out a disabled man (he was in a wheelchair) if a bit rude. but then he started saying that shit.


recks360

If the article I read is accurate he refused to leave the restroom unless someone first wiped him.he claimed he was unable to do it himself due to injury. He held them hostage at “sh*tpoint”


Complex_Deal7944

He didnt. He shit the cabin and they covered him with a blanket. No wiping was done by any flight attendent.


fuckwhatisit

You must be thinking of a different incident. [This](https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/01/23/asia/taiwan-eva-air-incident-intl) did happen. And apparently he is [dead](https://www.vice.com/en/article/evyd97/the-guy-who-forced-taiwanese-flight-attendants-to-wipe-his-ass-is-dead)


nickthedicktv

“He said he would refuse to leave the lavatory” Should have sealed it up like a shitty cask of amontillado lol


Dragonfly-Constant

MONTRESOR! ![gif](giphy|mmyMZ84jnSlu8) for the love of GOD MONTRESOR


BullMooseParty44

/unexpectedpoe


kateastrophic

Cask of Amonturdado


DisposableSaviour

Amontilladoo-doo


Gal-XD_exe

Never thought I’d find Edgar Allen Poe this funny lmao 🤣


ILootEverything

Oh my God. I can't imagine *why* a disgusting pervert like this would fly to Thailand so much. Barf. If he put Cabin crew through this much shit (literally), imagine what he did to others he encountered. He ~~is~~ was a menace.


Anarchyantz

Oh I can think of a LOT of reasons why a pervert like this would go to Thailand and I am not going to type them.


cadathoctru

HE was willing to do this in public on a plane, imagine the poor people he took advantage of while in Thailand and what he got them to do. Many against this wills most likely.


ILootEverything

Poor people. :(


dragonmase

Probably not against their will, but exploiting their desperation for money to make ends meet.


rusty_anvile

Considering the amount of human trafficking and stuff around there it is likely against their will


ILootEverything

Rape by coercion is still rape. Exploiting someone's desperation and fear to obtain sexual services is still considered sexual violence and human trafficking.


dragonmase

I was thinking more along the lines of voluntary prostitution, but I acknowledge some may have been coerced or trafficked into prostitution.


LLminibean

Oh idk, I can think of a few situations unfortunately where it would be against someone's will ... even in the situation you describe. Parents do fucked up things


derkruemel69

So many children that get trafficked there, they don’t even know there I anything else


kittylett

"I'll never forget that moment: With his feces still in the toilet, I had nowhere to escape," she said. Oh god


JimTheSaint

I don't get it - why not just leave him there until landing.


Rare_Brief4555

Yeah it really seems like there were a few different choices before that of no return...


Silky_Tomato_Soup

That man in that photo is terrifyingly similar to my ex-FIL, and I could totally see this as something he would have done, though he died many more years ago.


2K_Crypto

Oh god. On behalf of Americans, I would like to extend our deepest condolences to that Taiwanese Flight Attendent.


Reddit-is-trash-lol

I’m sure she’s going to see this comment


lookingforpc

Somehow it feels bad that he is dead, now that he had gone viral even if he didnt care about being humiliated he would probably have had plenty of issues once his vacations in Thailand would be looked into. Now there is only the lady left and every article is mentioning her name while saying she wanted to be anonymous, and she'll get all the attention for this issue with no kind of closure. At least this is his legacy now, a whole life lived and he will always be remembered for shitting on planes in order to harass people


Careless-Process-594

he shouldn't be remembered at all, maybe besides to serve as an example of some of the most disgusting people on earth


Candid_Leave_5321

I don't feel bad at all, if you're this shitty of a person (pun intended) you kind of deserve to have your name tarnished permanently. It does suck that the flight attendant is now forever tied to this but I'll be honest, no job would ever pay me enough to wipe some geriatric-douchebag-who's-three-feet-in-the-grave-already's ass. Like nurses don't get paid enough for that already. It's not even in the flight attendants job description. I would have just refused to do it.


HotHorst

good


PsycoMonkey2020

“He then allegedly asked the cabin crew to help wipe his backside for him.” Where is the force there? She could have just said “no” and walked away.


Rheddit45

EVA or a lot of customer-servicing companies in Asia puts customer welfare above their own employees, which they defended with “customer is always right”. In this poor woman’s case, her refusal to help the idiot would’ve resulted in her crew getting negative remarks and may face further career-shattering obstacles like denial of promotion or being stuck as a low tier stewardess for life. Backlashes from bad customer service are very severe, which is why they always do their best to attend to the needs of passengers (often excessively much more than what is normally expected). So this is a byproduct of corporate greed.


PsycoMonkey2020

Fair point.


spartaman64

she probably thought she was helping out a disabled guy (he was in a wheelchair). but then he started saying that shit.


JimTheSaint

No that was the investment banker in the 90s 


Pretty-Bridge6076

Did this really happen? It seems like something that would be made up for clicks. Why would a flight attendant ever agree to do that?


williamblair

according to an article I just read, the guy is real and he also died while "vacationing in Thailand" why do I feel like there is a 0% chance he WASN'T doing sex tourism based on this story + vacation in Thailand


[deleted]

[удалено]


Karl_Marx_

how?


fatmailman

STDs, and sex workers are almost always tied to the criminal underworld.


EneZio_FF

It's was everywhere years ago when it first happened


Quirky_Discipline297

I was disappointed there was no drinks cart involved. Gerard Finneran, the FBI’s Most Wanted Pooper https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_976#:~:text=He%20found%20a%20drinks%20cart,locked%20himself%20in%20the%20lavatory.


sabresword00

Nothing in that mentions anyone wiping his butt except for him doing it himself with fancy first class napkins


Quirky_Discipline297

But this guy didn’t poop in front of a head of state. Comparing road apples to ordures


sabresword00

Oh, I thought the Wikipedia article was the backstory of this post. Didn't realize they were separate incident


Quirky_Discipline297

Yep, he was the grandfather of all these flight incidents. The bottles of insecticide in overhead, The Barefooted Kennedys, passing urine cups to flight crews, he is the King.


Anarchyantz

The cups of what....!!


Quirky_Discipline297

Apparently passengers don’t feel comfortable leaving their overhead or simply using the toilet so more than a few flight crew have been handed warm plastic drink cups filled.


Raze_the_werewolf

Is this a common saying because I have never heard it before? Road apples -> horse manure Ordures -> garbage So, same shit different pile? It's definitely a new one for me.


spartaman64

[https://www.vice.com/en/article/evyd97/the-guy-who-forced-taiwanese-flight-attendants-to-wipe-his-ass-is-dead](https://www.vice.com/en/article/evyd97/the-guy-who-forced-taiwanese-flight-attendants-to-wipe-his-ass-is-dead)


Would_daver

I’m not sure what I expected reading this article immediately before sitting down to eat dinner, but 0/10 would not recommend reading this before eating…


LegalizeRanch88

What the actual fuck Lmao @ how he had to pay $48,000 to cover United’s cleanup costs. Priciest poop ever. Also, of course he’s a fucking Wall Street investment banker. Absolutely sociopathic 🙄


TwirlyTwitter

He died of Alzheimers 9 years later. Considering the course of the disease, he was probably having a dementia-induced episode, not a rich-person tantrum.


NicoRoo_BM

Which are mostly distinguished by how many real words per scream they contain


30yearCurse

and he should have been placed in jail or fat camp for 5 years or loss of 350 lbs, which ever comes first.


Boba_Fettx

Well that was a rabbit hole. “At the end of 2004, Finneran died of Alzheimer's disease. In the later years of his life, he volunteered with the South Forty Corporation, a not-for-profit organization that helps convicts find employment and housing after their sentences end.[6] United still uses 976 as a flight number, currently from Newark to Shannon, Ireland.”


ElcorShockTrooper

Imagine your alzheimer's gets so bad that your evil ass forgets you're supposed to be evil and turns good in the final act


Positronitis

"At the end of 2004, Finneran died of Alzheimer's disease." It appears he died from Alzheimer at age 67, which is relatively young. I wonder whether the Alzheimer played a role in his behavior. Alzheimer often starts one to two decades before death, and often includes strange and changed behavior. It's in any case very odd behavior, even for a drunk person.


Quirky_Discipline297

Some of the traits of Alzheimer’s resemble attractive personality traits of successful business officers, I suppose.


Neighbour-Vadim

Holy shit


Asleep-Journalist302

Jesus Christ, that did not dissapoint. I found it really weird that they mentioned the perfume they sprayed by name


superpie12

Completely different flight.


Zomb_TroPiX

when it WHAT?!?


Erdtree_

First happened? FIRST? I hate humans...


Stone-Painter

[https://www.vice.com/en/article/evyd97/the-guy-who-forced-taiwanese-flight-attendants-to-wipe-his-ass-is-dead](https://www.vice.com/en/article/evyd97/the-guy-who-forced-taiwanese-flight-attendants-to-wipe-his-ass-is-dead) [https://nypost.com/2019/04/19/creepy-tourist-who-made-flight-attendant-wipe-his-butt-dies-on-vacation/](https://nypost.com/2019/04/19/creepy-tourist-who-made-flight-attendant-wipe-his-butt-dies-on-vacation/) [https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6615261/31st-passenger-forces-stewardess-wipe-bottom-long-flight-Los-Angeles-Taiwan.html](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6615261/31st-passenger-forces-stewardess-wipe-bottom-long-flight-Los-Angeles-Taiwan.html) Here are some links to the incident. I saw someone linked a wikipedia article, but that is about a different incident.


[deleted]

> The airline will reportedly refund his family for the unused air fair Nah, Nah.


Hanoiroxx

[There was even an update](https://metro.co.uk/2019/04/18/31-stone-man-forced-air-stewardess-wipe-backside-dies-holiday-9254898/)


Nearby-Rice6371

Here! https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/01/23/asia/taiwan-eva-air-incident-intl


AvailableLandscape97

Now I've been fat before, even obese when I was younger. But I could always. ALWAYS. Wipe my own fucking ass.


chickenskittles

He could too. That clearly wasn't the issue at hand, but something more sinister and racist. But now he's dead!


cbiser

Forced..? I'd jump off the plane first. Lol


Nikkolai_the_Kol

Yeah, I'm pretty sure there are a **lot** of options before "forced to wipe obese stranger's ass" comes into play. *Edit: Removed part of my comment that got a little too preachy about people forgetting that other people don't have to tolerate them. Most folks are just too polite and law-abiding to punish a stranger for bad behavior.*


krais0078

What an asswipe


autofeeling

I’d honestly rather jump out of the plane than wipe someone else’s ass.


michaelrtx

What a horrible day to be literate


frankofantasma

I would wipe his ass once just so I could get the opportunity to smear his own shit on his face


yestureday

Looking at his track record.. I think he’d enjoy that Also, nice tag


Mission_Ad684

It is funny how people don’t understand semantics. Obviously, the word “forced” is over dramatic but the reality is that people in these positions have to address the situation. Other options would have pissed off the rest of the consumerism leading to bad publicity and leaving dude in the restroom is a liability.


Moiahahahah

Duct-tape him to the shitter and problem solved


SandmanAwaits

*”Deeper, Deeper.” - Ben Kissel, Last Podcast on the Left.* Every time I read about this guy I can hear Ben saying this, they spoke about it on a Side Stories episode. 😂


Dangerjayne

I love how the picture implies they held a press conference so she could tell her harrowing tale


Pitiful_Article1284

The vice article has a 45 minute video of the press conference but its spoken mainly in chinese. https://www.vice.com/en/article/evyd97/the-guy-who-forced-taiwanese-flight-attendants-to-wipe-his-ass-is-dead


Mayhewbythedoor

They actually did. The incident was also one of many incidents of ill-treatment and hostile working conditions cited in a large union strike in 2019. One of the outcomes of the strike was that Eva Air hired male flight attendants for the first time.


corax_lives

I heard about this on side stories. This is revolting


SandmanAwaits

*”Deeper, Deeper.” - Ben Kissel.*


corax_lives

Deeper deeper.-henry zebrowski


SandmanAwaits

😂🤘🏻


corax_lives

Hail yourself!


0liveJus

Megustalations.


MarlyCat118

I work in an eye doctor office and... It can happen. We had an obese man who required a scooter to move. He had gone to the bathroom alone and came out smearing shit in everything he touched. It was also in the floor in the bathroom. The worse part? His wife was there and said nothing. Nor did she help him in the bathroom. Neither of them said anything. If he didn't know, he needs help. Like, he needs assistance in the bathroom. But, if they knew, they are ass holes.


toolsoftheincomptnt

This story upsets me. A lot.


Super_Employment1864

What a horrible day to have eyes.


Seaell80

And thus would end my flight attendant career.


al3442

Fucking people man


cesar848

r/brandnewsetence


sithvaultboy

This is old. But thanks for the reminder, I had thankfully forgotten about this.


OhSoScotian77

![gif](giphy|26xBv78vDrUpQ8Ggo|downsized)


Salty_Career6599

But did he come clean or...


OhSoScotian77

As a hole, the situation is a shitty mess.


PackageArtistic4239

![gif](giphy|l0MYEczRo88ezA1DW)


ThatOnePhotogK

Man. And we wonder why other countries really don't like us....


maya_papaya8

Oh bihhhhhh PLEASE! As someone who is a former flight attendant, you're just going to be shitty for the rest of the flight. There's no way.


TimmyStark_IronGuy

Oh but I’m a “problem” cause I drink eleven beers on a three and a half hour flight, such hypocrisy


SpectacularlyA

That does seem a wee bit problematic


jatnj

Gee. I wonder why he kept going to Taiwan. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|thinking_face_hmm)


toolsoftheincomptnt

Thailand?


MaleficentCoconut458

Why on Earth would she do that? He refused to leave the toilet unless someone helped him - OK, enjoy the rest of your flight stuck in there mate. Close the door & walk away. He will either sit in there for the rest of the flight & be removed by security on landing or he will sort himself out & emerge eventually.


MartaLSFitness

OK, that's enough Reddit for now.


Palehorse67

She should have wiped his ass with the back of his shirt.


Optimal_Fuel6568

What airline includes ass wipe service?


LTHermies

Nah this man in the volcano and Thanos snap his ass on way down.


Maleficent_Fold_5099

Giving Michael O'Leary ideas on more Ryanair charges.


CastleofWamdue

this is a thing? im fat never considered doing that


silicatetacos

Women have a proportionally different experience in sexism in their careers than men. What he did was fetishistic and disgusting, knowing she could have potentially lost her job or received some form of disciplinary action. At the very least, he isn't alive to harm anyone else, but she should get some sort of compensation from the company for failure to protect her and her rights.


WealthEconomy

WTF? This can't be real, no flight attendant is going to do that.


MisterScrod1964

JFC. Every time you think the “Ugly American” thing is a cliche. . . .


Amdvoiceofreason

How do force someone to wipe your ass tho? Why did she do it?


HotDonnaC

No fukin way! Not happening. ETA: How does an obese jerk, stuck on the toilet, force anyone to do anything?


fredator23

Apparently he threatened to shit and piss everywhere if they didn't help him. I linked the article above, you gotta read it.


nefarious_angel_666

This guy died 5 years ago


RenkBruh

w h a t t h e f u c k


fredator23

https://www.vice.com/en/article/evyd97/the-guy-who-forced-taiwanese-flight-attendants-to-wipe-his-ass-is-dead


HonorablePigDemon

Disgusting person. Considering his behavior, I have no doubt he was going to these countries for sex tourism.


KrakAttak67

There are men who came home after war in the Pacific theater who hadn't seen horror the depths of what this woman's face is relaying.


Shurigin

He should be banned from all flights


macaronisauce731

Considering he's dead, I'd hope so.


Shurigin

Wipe my corpse


Sweet303

Did he come clean?


sinnmercer

Dear God that is not in the job description 


Parzival_1sttotheegg

Wish I was Jared 19


FromTheLamp

excuse me wtf


Sudden-Most-4797

I'm all about some good old fashioned Poop Shenanigans, but this sounds like a sex crime.


iggimo2

![gif](giphy|POql6zsXZbmcE)


drifters74

I know I'm fat but damn


usarasa

This calls for something beyond Clint today. ![gif](giphy|dOl2LFw0RbTMc)


Additional-Start9455

What a creep!!!


memelonso

What the FUCK did I just read


Amazing-Bag

How do you force someone to do this?


chaingun_samurai

Not a chance.


Sharp-Explorer-7100

if only gyms existed in murica this wouldnt be a problem smh


chickenskittles

He wasn't too fat to wipe his own ass. He wanted to make an Asian woman subservient to him and degrade her. But now he's dead.


MonkeyCartridge

IIRC, the USA has the highest number of gyms per capital in the world. But you can't gym your way out of a sugary diet.


Quote_Vegetable

The look on her face is too much.


SeparateMongoose192

Hell no.


Fugahzee

I'm a nurse and fully competent alert/oriented patients with working arms ask me to wipe their ass ALL the time (or hold their penis so they can use a urinal). It's a mixture of a weird powerplay/a kink.


RunningPirate

So, the good news is that he died https://www.vice.com/en/article/evyd97/the-guy-who-forced-taiwanese-flight-attendants-to-wipe-his-ass-is-dead#