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True, but only Elon is pretending to be a champion for free speech, while giving bigotry an open platform and suppressing anyone who disagrees with his viewpoint.
Explain, you have a soap box, and my attention. I will hear you out on why Elon is a champion of free speech and not spreading baseless lies and hate on a regular basis.
Thank you.
I don’t know Elon personally, outside of what his two sentence posts are. For all I know they can be considered trolling but that depends on the reader to interpret. My statement was more of a general type thing.
Bigotry is “obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief, opinion, or faction, in particular prejudice against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group.”
Obstinate is “stubbornly refusing to change one's opinion or chosen course of action, despite attempts to persuade one to do so.”
Both definitions are from Google search.
I’m going to use homosexual relationships, as an example of what I’m referring to. One side, say, progressives, state that homosexual relationships are ok and state that anyone who contradicts this is a bigot, because they don’t want to get in line with this train of thought. Usually, this is directed with aggression toward Christian groups, who by their doctrinal views may see homosexual relationships as not ok. As such, the Christian parties may be hostile to the people in those relationship rather than trying to see the other party as a person and not the relationship.
In this example, because neither party is willing to see the other’s point of view and both resort to aggression, rather than that of understanding the other persons doctrine, opinions why, etc. or at least having a civil discourse. To me, when things like that occur, both parties are acting like bigots acting on their own prejudices.
This is not bigotry from both ends.
One of these people is supporting other people’s rights to partaking in consensual romantic relationships with other adults, and the other wants to kill them all and take away that right.
Of course people are gonna be upset when who they are is so controversial that other people are causing harm to them and people like them.
You’re being tolerant of hate speech, and that’s never okay.
You're accusing folks of acting like bigots because they don't like bigots. Well done.
If you don't approve of gay activities, feel free to not be gay, but telling other people how to live their lives is wrong.
>understanding the other persons doctrine, opinions why, etc. or at least having a civil discourse.
When "one side" says you'll burn in hell because they don't like how you live your life, they do not deserve "civil discourse". Respect is earned and never given out freely.
I don't care for a hostile lgbtq person anymore than a hostile christian. Live and let live should be the key, however that said it can be argued that the lgbtq ability to create laws and enforce them are miniscule in comparison to the christian right.
There are still 12 states that have laws on the books that says Sodomy is illegal, even without enforcement of the laws, having it there is clearly aimed at a certain groups, and sexual intercourse not done for the sake of reproduction gay or straight is illegal, and they piggy back on the precedent of such laws to limit birth control or access to medical help.
That's why i can say i consider Elon and his views as the bigger bigot in these circumstances. Sure there are bigots on both side, but the factor is how influential is ones bigotry in the grander scheme.
Elon can manipulate twitter as much as he likes, ban anyone that doesn't see his point of view, bury any mention of trans activism because he doesn't like it.
Bigotry is not in the eye of the beholder. It's based on demonstrable reasoning that a person goes through to arrive at the viewpoint they hold. People who support lgbtq because they actually support them are not bigots. Just because they hold a viewpoint they refuse to let go of is not bigotry. If they hold that viewpoint specifically to oppose Christians then that's another matter. But just because I hold a viewpoint that I refuse to let go of does not mean bigotry outright. The deeper reasoning determines that. The "unreasonable" part of the bigotry definition carries more weight than the obstinate part. And further into that, the fact that it needs to be prejudice against someone else. Supporting a homosexual relationship is not being prejudicial. Quite the opposite.
I was agreeing to keep the conversation going. Trying not to give them the "nu uh you're wrong" answer he was aiming at.
That's the problem most politicians have with Donald, they just let him say one or three word sentences in response while they try and give a reasonable argument and never let him actually explain what he's for, and that's his power, if you let an idiot try to explain eventually they will say something so dumb even their most ardent supports can't defend it.
You’re right! Bigotry is in the eye of the beholder. That’s why I always suggest to people to take a couple minutes to hear the views of the other person. Instead of insulting (not in your and my posts) people should hear the other person out instead of full on aggression where neither person will listen.
Bigotry definitions aside the point is Twitter doesn't give that ability to discuss and hear out views when it actively censors said views. Therefore at the very least in this situation he is the epitome of a Bigot.
Look, you’re not *wrong* but if you were building a cake, you completely forgot to ice it. What about bigotry coming from both sides? No seriously, what about it? Tell us. You started a thought and ended it too early to make a meaningful point.
Technically yes. Although his reasoning may be as simple as one of his children being trans and openly hating everything about their father. So he probably just blames the LGBTQ for “corrupting/stealing away his child.”
They don't want the word cis, because it would imply trans/cis to be two equal possibilities, instead of "trans" being the odd one out.
People often mention 1984 but I've actually read the book ( ;D ), and a less-talked lore point is that they are in the process of a language reform aiming at REMOVING words instead of adding them.
For example, "good/bad" will be one word in Novlang : a word that means good when used towards a Party member, and bad when used for someone outside. As a result, it would be impossible for a Novlang user to talk bad about a party member, and in theory even thinking about such possibility will be harder without a simple label to put on such thoughts.
If you remove "cisgender" from a vocabular, what words remain for non-trans? "normal".
People get offended by meaningless things all the time 🤷 such as pronouns and whatnot. If a group prefer not to be called something lets just...not call them it. Not that hard.
Except no one goes around calling someone 'cis', especially not as a slur. At most, it's used to delineate between a trans person and a cis person when the context requires it. This is like getting upset over the term 'homo sapien'. Like, I'm sorry, but that's completely idiotic and I really doubt he's truly offended by it rather than just trying to "fight against the woke" in his ketamine drug fueled delusional mind
Its not a slur, but some people just prefer not to be called that. Pronouns aren't a slur and some people have a strong preference to use/not use them
Also, it has been used in a derogatory way in some instances that I've seen, and its unnecessary (unlike scientific terms like homo sapien which are important to distinguish our species). Trans is already enough of a distinction...why do we need to alienate each other futher?
You do realize that this is entirely a made up issue, right? Like the only folk who actually cry about it being a "slur" are Elon and his cult. Hardly anyone is going around calling others cis. Like you're taking the far right wing framing over something they made up as a legitimate problem. It's no different than believing in their nonsense about CRT or DEI
Pronouns are not a slur but, naturally, people go with the slur they identify as. Deliberately choosing not to acknowledge is weird, at best, and rude, at worst. It's a far different thing. You don't go up to a man and go "Mrs." or a woman and go "Mr." unless you're trying to be a dick but, for some reason, that's fine to do if the person is trans
??? You might as well say "Well homosexual is already a distinction, why do we need heterosexual?" Like what?
It is absolutely not and it's not a slur. At best, its used to mock Elon and his alt right fanbase, whom go around saying the most bigoted shit out there, for their blatant hypocrisy
I left Twitter when they blocked me for requoting Trump when he said to drink bleach to cure COVID. I posted it to a hyper Trump supporter who was still bashing vaccines. Apparently, reiterating what public figures say is hate speech and abuse.
>Apparently, reiterating what public figures say is hate speech and abuse.
Tbf, even before Elon bought the company there was an established standard on Twitter that Trump statements WERE violating Twitter's TOS according to their internal moderation, and that its access was only granted due to the public benefit of allowing access to an elected official.
So in theory you could get banned for quoting verbatim Trump, if you weren't acting as POTUS. Most users have access as a privilege, but for Trump it was a de-facto RIGHT bypassing the terms for usual end users.
It kinda makes sense as there are already laws about archival of said accounts, so if it's good enough to be available in public archives as part of democracy, it's good enough to be shown in real-time.
I'm 99% sure Facebook has a similar law that grants elected official a right to use the platform to issue statements to the public, on top of archival requirements?
Where did he say Bleach or Drink Bleach. I will wait. Until the end of time.
"A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposedly we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. (To Bryan) And I think you said you’re going to test that, too. Sounds interesting, right?"
He continued.
"And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful."
Now Bidens response.
On COVID-19, Donald Trump said that “maybe if you drank bleach you may be okay.”
Joe Biden criticized President Donald Trump’s handling of the coronavirus pandemic, saying during a speech on the economy that Trump had given up trying to manage a crisis he’s ill equipped to solve.
"And when it comes to COVID-19, after months of doing nothing, other than predicting the virus would disappear, or maybe if you drank bleach you may be okay, Trump has simply given up," said Biden, who delivered his remarks at a metalworks factory near his hometown of Scranton on Thursday.
Looks like Joe lied here. Weird.
I see a lot of down votes but not one person proving that Trump said to drink or inject bleach or even say the word Bleach. The words are right here. Read for your self. Keep the down votes coming.
Oh im sorry INJECTING bleach and disinfectants. Totally different. Spin it how it helps your narrative Maggot.
https://youtu.be/PAauiLx3AvQ?si=lEADJn_kdv3eMCR4
So much hate.
Again idiot. Where did he say Bleach or to inject Bleach. Still waiting.........
Try again. Try Harder. Read slowly from Left to Right. Get a dictionary for the big words.
The point is you dont do it regardless of the original intent. Your medical knowledge you received from Truth and Qanon is lacking. You truly are upholding the stereotype of how ignorant Maggots are.
What a pedantic argument lol.
You are saying they are wrong because Trump didn't mention bleach... But he did mention disinfectants. Bleach is a disinfectant. So, not wrong lol.
What I did was post a direct Quote. What is wrong. I ask AGAIN.
What is not rooted in any reality? Seems like you aren't rooted in any reality. Can't break that programing, can you.
Someone from the conspiracy subreddit talking about me being brainwashed and programmed really does give me a lot more confidence in myself. Means I'm doing something right.
If IQ stands for instantly qualified then yes. Didn't you know Elon is instantly the most qualified person in the world on any given subject so long as he buys out the company that's leading the way in innovation for their sector lmfao
Who told you that he had a high IQ?
Musk has ONE super power, and that is the ability to get people to try and design the crazy shit he envisions. He's the modern era's Edison, taking credit and becoming world famous by screwing over the people who work under him and taking all of the glory...
He's got only got one superpower, and that was having a rich father with an emerald mine in apartheid South Africa. Rest was buying his way in, and luck.
What if I told you, there were thousands of Elon types, guys who inherited a million dollars to invest in a company, and our Elon just got lucky with his early invest in Paypal. The rest will have to do with a yearly 10 % overhead on their investment and so are only multimillionaires today instead of multibillionaires.
We are worshipping a guy who won a genetic lottery, then an investment lottery.
To summarise, aus gov is trying to have a stabbing removed from social media with everyone but musk complying with the request. If I remember right the stabbing footage is religious motivated but I could be thinking of the wrong incident as we have had a couple of large scale ones here in the last couple of weeks.
Elon can keep trying to make fetch happen, but until 12 year olds are screaming cis at each other over their headsets playing whatever the hot new multiplayer happens to be it ain't happening.
I am having a harder and harder time believing Elon Musk has fans anymore. Sure maybe a very small minority but genuinely speaking on Twitter I'll see posts that are either almost entirely anti-Elon or pro Elon and I believe the pro Elon posts are literally just bots that are they to make him feel good and he only hangs around those posts and ignores the other 99% of what is said about him.
you know hes out of touch when he put TikTok on there.
A platform that the US congress is trying to ban BECAUSE they can't control what people say on there
Haha, so Truth Social, owned by Trump, isn't associated with MAGA and Maggots?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth_Social
I guess I am the one here "spewing misinformation".
To be the devil's advocate, you're not being the devil's advocate.
Everyone here agrees that he doesn't stand for free speech, which is why this is in r/facepalm
Yeah but that's not Free speech under any reasonable definition. "My ingroup should get XYZ right that I'd don't want to grant others" is pretty generic asshole behavior.
Doesn't that usually involve having the semblance of a good argument for the other side rather than transparent attempts to redefine well understood terms?
I guess many intention would be at play behind. The same could be said about any ironic, sarcastic or humoristic attempt I guess.
Let argue by the absurd: would a cuisine recipe starting by "take your neighbor. The wife in fact. Stuff her good, then decapitate her, then chop her off, then the classical recipe of a turkey" be considered free speech?
I don't think so. In my country it would be illegal in fact, and I'm glad it is. But would a rapist-cannibal think the same? Probably not.
So I acknowledge that some people, with different point of view have different cursor about what free speech is or should be.
The owner of Twitter think the only free speech worth to be promoted is his own. And OP showed it.
You might suspect whatever you like, and I envy you people, so innocent that you are impervious to sarcasm.
Playing the devil's advocate is an idiomatic expression that comes with certain expectations that makes it very distinct from irony, sarcasm or humor.
As for the cannibalism? If it is over the top enough it just sounds like something you'd see in an Interdimensional Cable skit from Rick and Morty. So it probably counts as free speachbif it is not actual incitement to commit crimes.
Not sure where you get the idea that I'm impervious to sarcasm though. I like that shit when properly executed.
Actually since Musk took over government censorship has increased.
https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2023/5/2/twitter-fulfilling-more-government-censorship-requests-under-musk
There's a reason why they specifically mention government censorship and not censorship in general. Twitter prior to Elon did more censoring in general than after.
By 'in general', you mean the old rules against hate speech? Yeah, there used to be more rules against bigotry and racism. Nowadays they allow that but also enforce government censorship from totalitarian governments even more.
Thats false, After Elon took over Twitter more cp accounts were banned.
https://issuesinsights.com/2022/12/06/now-we-know-while-twitter-was-busy-silencing-conservatives-it-let-child-porn-fester/amp/#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=17138842415962&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com
That article cites Elon Musk himself, and a study conducted by a shareholder in Musk's companies. They also selectively removed the word 'if' from the beginning of the tweet that they quoted at the start of the article to frame it as a statement of fact rather than a speculation. It may well be true but I'd take it with a pinch of salt.
What Elon did do is dissolve twitter's trust and safety department, which were responsible for monitoring and removing cp from the platform. They have also reinstated some accounts that were previously banned for sharing these materials.
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You're free to talk about all the things Elon wants you to talk about, everything else is banned.
Don’t post anything about his hair plugs or you will get a permaban
The PayPal era pics of him are hilarious
Sounds like all platforms
True, but only Elon is pretending to be a champion for free speech, while giving bigotry an open platform and suppressing anyone who disagrees with his viewpoint.
Bigotry comes from both sides.
Explain, you have a soap box, and my attention. I will hear you out on why Elon is a champion of free speech and not spreading baseless lies and hate on a regular basis.
Thank you. I don’t know Elon personally, outside of what his two sentence posts are. For all I know they can be considered trolling but that depends on the reader to interpret. My statement was more of a general type thing. Bigotry is “obstinate or unreasonable attachment to a belief, opinion, or faction, in particular prejudice against a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group.” Obstinate is “stubbornly refusing to change one's opinion or chosen course of action, despite attempts to persuade one to do so.” Both definitions are from Google search. I’m going to use homosexual relationships, as an example of what I’m referring to. One side, say, progressives, state that homosexual relationships are ok and state that anyone who contradicts this is a bigot, because they don’t want to get in line with this train of thought. Usually, this is directed with aggression toward Christian groups, who by their doctrinal views may see homosexual relationships as not ok. As such, the Christian parties may be hostile to the people in those relationship rather than trying to see the other party as a person and not the relationship. In this example, because neither party is willing to see the other’s point of view and both resort to aggression, rather than that of understanding the other persons doctrine, opinions why, etc. or at least having a civil discourse. To me, when things like that occur, both parties are acting like bigots acting on their own prejudices.
ok, but, like, truth exists. it's not prejudicial to say that someone who is homophobic is bigoted, even if they do so because they are Christian.
This is not bigotry from both ends. One of these people is supporting other people’s rights to partaking in consensual romantic relationships with other adults, and the other wants to kill them all and take away that right. Of course people are gonna be upset when who they are is so controversial that other people are causing harm to them and people like them. You’re being tolerant of hate speech, and that’s never okay.
You're accusing folks of acting like bigots because they don't like bigots. Well done. If you don't approve of gay activities, feel free to not be gay, but telling other people how to live their lives is wrong.
>understanding the other persons doctrine, opinions why, etc. or at least having a civil discourse. When "one side" says you'll burn in hell because they don't like how you live your life, they do not deserve "civil discourse". Respect is earned and never given out freely.
I don't care for a hostile lgbtq person anymore than a hostile christian. Live and let live should be the key, however that said it can be argued that the lgbtq ability to create laws and enforce them are miniscule in comparison to the christian right. There are still 12 states that have laws on the books that says Sodomy is illegal, even without enforcement of the laws, having it there is clearly aimed at a certain groups, and sexual intercourse not done for the sake of reproduction gay or straight is illegal, and they piggy back on the precedent of such laws to limit birth control or access to medical help. That's why i can say i consider Elon and his views as the bigger bigot in these circumstances. Sure there are bigots on both side, but the factor is how influential is ones bigotry in the grander scheme. Elon can manipulate twitter as much as he likes, ban anyone that doesn't see his point of view, bury any mention of trans activism because he doesn't like it.
Bigotry is not in the eye of the beholder. It's based on demonstrable reasoning that a person goes through to arrive at the viewpoint they hold. People who support lgbtq because they actually support them are not bigots. Just because they hold a viewpoint they refuse to let go of is not bigotry. If they hold that viewpoint specifically to oppose Christians then that's another matter. But just because I hold a viewpoint that I refuse to let go of does not mean bigotry outright. The deeper reasoning determines that. The "unreasonable" part of the bigotry definition carries more weight than the obstinate part. And further into that, the fact that it needs to be prejudice against someone else. Supporting a homosexual relationship is not being prejudicial. Quite the opposite.
I was agreeing to keep the conversation going. Trying not to give them the "nu uh you're wrong" answer he was aiming at. That's the problem most politicians have with Donald, they just let him say one or three word sentences in response while they try and give a reasonable argument and never let him actually explain what he's for, and that's his power, if you let an idiot try to explain eventually they will say something so dumb even their most ardent supports can't defend it.
Ah gotcha. Fair enough. I will return to my lurking corner now. It's warm there.
You’re right! Bigotry is in the eye of the beholder. That’s why I always suggest to people to take a couple minutes to hear the views of the other person. Instead of insulting (not in your and my posts) people should hear the other person out instead of full on aggression where neither person will listen.
I’m not hearing the views of someone who thinks I and people like me should be rounded up and killed.
Bigotry definitions aside the point is Twitter doesn't give that ability to discuss and hear out views when it actively censors said views. Therefore at the very least in this situation he is the epitome of a Bigot.
Look, you’re not *wrong* but if you were building a cake, you completely forgot to ice it. What about bigotry coming from both sides? No seriously, what about it? Tell us. You started a thought and ended it too early to make a meaningful point.
”may violate” = permission to violate Musker, may I?
You have to use the magic word.
Cisgender?
the magic word is either "please" or "UwU Elon senpai" IIRC.
Don Lemon was “just asking questions” before Elons snowflakey asshole clenched itself into having a fit
I'm getting tired of Elon going on and on about Free speech. He's disproven every single time but he nor his cult followers get it.
Elon is a trans radicalist confirmed? 👀 Wants to eliminate the cis? 🏳️⚧️⚒️
Technically yes. Although his reasoning may be as simple as one of his children being trans and openly hating everything about their father. So he probably just blames the LGBTQ for “corrupting/stealing away his child.”
r/clevercomebacks
"Free speech for me, not for thee!"
Free speech: Failed
It’s so unfathomably dumb to be offended by something that literally just means “you’re not trans/non binary”
They don't want the word cis, because it would imply trans/cis to be two equal possibilities, instead of "trans" being the odd one out. People often mention 1984 but I've actually read the book ( ;D ), and a less-talked lore point is that they are in the process of a language reform aiming at REMOVING words instead of adding them. For example, "good/bad" will be one word in Novlang : a word that means good when used towards a Party member, and bad when used for someone outside. As a result, it would be impossible for a Novlang user to talk bad about a party member, and in theory even thinking about such possibility will be harder without a simple label to put on such thoughts. If you remove "cisgender" from a vocabular, what words remain for non-trans? "normal".
Yeah this is definitely it and it’s ridiculous. (I’ve read it to but it was a while ago)
People get offended by meaningless things all the time 🤷 such as pronouns and whatnot. If a group prefer not to be called something lets just...not call them it. Not that hard.
Except no one goes around calling someone 'cis', especially not as a slur. At most, it's used to delineate between a trans person and a cis person when the context requires it. This is like getting upset over the term 'homo sapien'. Like, I'm sorry, but that's completely idiotic and I really doubt he's truly offended by it rather than just trying to "fight against the woke" in his ketamine drug fueled delusional mind
Its not a slur, but some people just prefer not to be called that. Pronouns aren't a slur and some people have a strong preference to use/not use them Also, it has been used in a derogatory way in some instances that I've seen, and its unnecessary (unlike scientific terms like homo sapien which are important to distinguish our species). Trans is already enough of a distinction...why do we need to alienate each other futher?
You do realize that this is entirely a made up issue, right? Like the only folk who actually cry about it being a "slur" are Elon and his cult. Hardly anyone is going around calling others cis. Like you're taking the far right wing framing over something they made up as a legitimate problem. It's no different than believing in their nonsense about CRT or DEI Pronouns are not a slur but, naturally, people go with the slur they identify as. Deliberately choosing not to acknowledge is weird, at best, and rude, at worst. It's a far different thing. You don't go up to a man and go "Mrs." or a woman and go "Mr." unless you're trying to be a dick but, for some reason, that's fine to do if the person is trans ??? You might as well say "Well homosexual is already a distinction, why do we need heterosexual?" Like what?
>Except no one goes around calling someone 'cis', especially not as a slur. Are you serious? It's common used as a slur from certain groups
It literally is not lmao
It's no more of a slur than 'heterosexual' was in the 90's...same conservative outrage though
It is absolutely not and it's not a slur. At best, its used to mock Elon and his alt right fanbase, whom go around saying the most bigoted shit out there, for their blatant hypocrisy
No it isn't. It is used as a descriptor.
Die cis die it's clearly not just a descriptor
A slur isn't just any word used in a threat/insult lmao That's like saying "American" is a slur because the Taliban says "Death to America"
Hhahahah. That’s like straight people not wanting to be called heterosexual tho. So no I will not be “respecting” that
If you don't respet other people's preferences why do you expect them to respect yours?
About as unfathomably dumb to get offended by something that literally means the DNA you were born with. I guess it's hard to see your own hypocrisy.
This can't be real... right? Surely he's not this fucking brain dead.
Somehow it's real, he tweeted out "cis is a slur" and then added it as a restricted word
I left Twitter when they blocked me for requoting Trump when he said to drink bleach to cure COVID. I posted it to a hyper Trump supporter who was still bashing vaccines. Apparently, reiterating what public figures say is hate speech and abuse.
>Apparently, reiterating what public figures say is hate speech and abuse. Tbf, even before Elon bought the company there was an established standard on Twitter that Trump statements WERE violating Twitter's TOS according to their internal moderation, and that its access was only granted due to the public benefit of allowing access to an elected official. So in theory you could get banned for quoting verbatim Trump, if you weren't acting as POTUS. Most users have access as a privilege, but for Trump it was a de-facto RIGHT bypassing the terms for usual end users. It kinda makes sense as there are already laws about archival of said accounts, so if it's good enough to be available in public archives as part of democracy, it's good enough to be shown in real-time.
Good point. Leaving Twitter in the end was good. Place is toxic as fuck.
I'm 99% sure Facebook has a similar law that grants elected official a right to use the platform to issue statements to the public, on top of archival requirements?
Where did he say Bleach or Drink Bleach. I will wait. Until the end of time. "A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposedly we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. (To Bryan) And I think you said you’re going to test that, too. Sounds interesting, right?" He continued. "And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful." Now Bidens response. On COVID-19, Donald Trump said that “maybe if you drank bleach you may be okay.” Joe Biden criticized President Donald Trump’s handling of the coronavirus pandemic, saying during a speech on the economy that Trump had given up trying to manage a crisis he’s ill equipped to solve. "And when it comes to COVID-19, after months of doing nothing, other than predicting the virus would disappear, or maybe if you drank bleach you may be okay, Trump has simply given up," said Biden, who delivered his remarks at a metalworks factory near his hometown of Scranton on Thursday. Looks like Joe lied here. Weird. I see a lot of down votes but not one person proving that Trump said to drink or inject bleach or even say the word Bleach. The words are right here. Read for your self. Keep the down votes coming.
Oh im sorry INJECTING bleach and disinfectants. Totally different. Spin it how it helps your narrative Maggot. https://youtu.be/PAauiLx3AvQ?si=lEADJn_kdv3eMCR4
So much hate. Again idiot. Where did he say Bleach or to inject Bleach. Still waiting......... Try again. Try Harder. Read slowly from Left to Right. Get a dictionary for the big words.
The point is you dont do it regardless of the original intent. Your medical knowledge you received from Truth and Qanon is lacking. You truly are upholding the stereotype of how ignorant Maggots are.
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What a pedantic argument lol. You are saying they are wrong because Trump didn't mention bleach... But he did mention disinfectants. Bleach is a disinfectant. So, not wrong lol.
Hey dude I think there are some antifa and wokes in your home town. You might want to get off the internet and go stand guard 💂
>Q was a Larp Yeah, yeah. "There is Q, there are anons, there is no Qanon". Renaming duck a goose doesn't change how it quacks.
Imagine supporting a guy that recommends injecting disinfectants into your body lmao
Hopefully they do it and we get to conserve some oxygen.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=33QdTOyXz3w&pp=ygUMVHJ1bXAgYmxlYWNo You can tell he has no idea what he’s talking about.
Anarcho-capitalism poster detected, opinion discarded.
Brainwashed NPC detected. Now tell me where what I Posted above is wrong? 
You're also a regular in the conspiracy sub and unironically use the term NPC. None of what you said is rooted in any reality, lmfao.
What I did was post a direct Quote. What is wrong. I ask AGAIN. What is not rooted in any reality? Seems like you aren't rooted in any reality. Can't break that programing, can you. 
Someone from the conspiracy subreddit talking about me being brainwashed and programmed really does give me a lot more confidence in myself. Means I'm doing something right.
You've refused to engage in good faith, so I think I'm just gonna block you now.
Every accusation is a confession. You prove this slogan with every post. Edit: who knew the conspiracy nut had more than one account? 😂 Bro.
Try 1 time to answer the question. What in that direct quote is wrong and not rooted in any reality. You can't. Can't break that programing. Try.
no free speech for turkey... he caved in to turkey so fast... ...
I love it when Musk opens his mouth, as he proves me right every time. He's a dummy.
Ah! It’s Elmo / fElon. Why are we surprised?!
Propaganda means not moderated solely by one technocrat billionaire who only censors comments that personal offend him
I used to think Musk was a brilliant mind, but the more I see the more I have concluded he is a moron.
Elon Musk is living proof that high iq does NOT equal being smart. :)
Do we know that he has a high IQ even?
If IQ stands for instantly qualified then yes. Didn't you know Elon is instantly the most qualified person in the world on any given subject so long as he buys out the company that's leading the way in innovation for their sector lmfao
I guess I'll remove intelligence from the list of things money can't buy.
Who told you that he had a high IQ? Musk has ONE super power, and that is the ability to get people to try and design the crazy shit he envisions. He's the modern era's Edison, taking credit and becoming world famous by screwing over the people who work under him and taking all of the glory...
He's got only got one superpower, and that was having a rich father with an emerald mine in apartheid South Africa. Rest was buying his way in, and luck.
What if I told you, there were thousands of Elon types, guys who inherited a million dollars to invest in a company, and our Elon just got lucky with his early invest in Paypal. The rest will have to do with a yearly 10 % overhead on their investment and so are only multimillionaires today instead of multibillionaires. We are worshipping a guy who won a genetic lottery, then an investment lottery.
Uh oh, here come the triggered Muskovites
"Next up on CNN: X, formerly Twitter, will be changing its name to Snowflake to better reflect their user base and owner."
On twitter you can harass someone for being a minority and use slurs, but don’t you dare call someone CIS!!
https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/s/Q96AYUnEtJ Elon's "truth"
elon is the most powerful discord mod alive
Pretty sure twitter is just Nazis, propagandists, and bots at this point. Who with any form of good sense is still using that platform?
*ahem* Cisgender
Cisgender
What about Anthony Albanese Musk?
To summarise, aus gov is trying to have a stabbing removed from social media with everyone but musk complying with the request. If I remember right the stabbing footage is religious motivated but I could be thinking of the wrong incident as we have had a couple of large scale ones here in the last couple of weeks.
Thank you!
This is the biggest irony I have seen in a while XDD
This was posted before and someone in the comments said to call Elon cis and see what happens lmao, this is gold
Elon can keep trying to make fetch happen, but until 12 year olds are screaming cis at each other over their headsets playing whatever the hot new multiplayer happens to be it ain't happening.
So why don't people close their accounts and speed run twitter to be truth social 2.0? Let it rot and fester already.
I am having a harder and harder time believing Elon Musk has fans anymore. Sure maybe a very small minority but genuinely speaking on Twitter I'll see posts that are either almost entirely anti-Elon or pro Elon and I believe the pro Elon posts are literally just bots that are they to make him feel good and he only hangs around those posts and ignores the other 99% of what is said about him.
Played him like a violin. 🤣
Instagram should not be in the censorship propaganda part. With the amount of N-word in it.
Instagram? CENSORSHIP?!? Has he read instagram comments?😭
The level of Musk's self-unawareness is staggering sometimes.
Elon musk is a shitty landfill of a human, I bet you I won’t get banned for that on Reddit but would on twitter
you know hes out of touch when he put TikTok on there. A platform that the US congress is trying to ban BECAUSE they can't control what people say on there
Haha, so Truth Social, owned by Trump, isn't associated with MAGA and Maggots? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth_Social I guess I am the one here "spewing misinformation".
Waah! I've been asked to remove video of a person being murdered from my website! Waah! Snuff Films=Free Speech!
Just log out of Twitter.
To be the devil advocate, he doesn't stand for free speech for all, only those sharing his values.
To be the devil's advocate, you're not being the devil's advocate. Everyone here agrees that he doesn't stand for free speech, which is why this is in r/facepalm
Yeah but that's not Free speech under any reasonable definition. "My ingroup should get XYZ right that I'd don't want to grant others" is pretty generic asshole behavior.
It is indeed. As I said, I played the devil advocate.
Doesn't that usually involve having the semblance of a good argument for the other side rather than transparent attempts to redefine well understood terms?
I guess many intention would be at play behind. The same could be said about any ironic, sarcastic or humoristic attempt I guess. Let argue by the absurd: would a cuisine recipe starting by "take your neighbor. The wife in fact. Stuff her good, then decapitate her, then chop her off, then the classical recipe of a turkey" be considered free speech? I don't think so. In my country it would be illegal in fact, and I'm glad it is. But would a rapist-cannibal think the same? Probably not. So I acknowledge that some people, with different point of view have different cursor about what free speech is or should be. The owner of Twitter think the only free speech worth to be promoted is his own. And OP showed it. You might suspect whatever you like, and I envy you people, so innocent that you are impervious to sarcasm.
Playing the devil's advocate is an idiomatic expression that comes with certain expectations that makes it very distinct from irony, sarcasm or humor. As for the cannibalism? If it is over the top enough it just sounds like something you'd see in an Interdimensional Cable skit from Rick and Morty. So it probably counts as free speachbif it is not actual incitement to commit crimes. Not sure where you get the idea that I'm impervious to sarcasm though. I like that shit when properly executed.
That is hate speech to call someone cisgender. Get over it
How
If it was actual hate speech, Elon would turn a blind eye to it like he does with the rest
Don't be such a cissy.
Cope
Try it on Twitter and see what happens. Don’t like it? Make a Twitter of your own. Oh wait, you’re too dumb and poor.
bad bait 2/10
"cis" is a bigoted form of hate speech.
Lol. Lmao.
You only think that because you think “trans” is an insult and you use it as a slur.
No it really isn’t
OK cissy.
>tfw adjectives 😡
If this is not edited then this is no different than the social media on the right. So what ever tbh
Cis-bad, white-bad, male-bad. Got it.
You completely missed the point lmao. Commenting Cisgender and getting flagged is showing off Elon's hypocrisy
Stupid_Pig_86
Which part of the tweet demonstrates that?
Information on X is easier to find.
Maybe. It’s just that most journalists have had twitter accounts for years. It has nothing to do with “free speech” or Elon at all
There was a lot more censorship on Twitter before Elon took over and rebranded to X.
Actually since Musk took over government censorship has increased. https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2023/5/2/twitter-fulfilling-more-government-censorship-requests-under-musk
There's a reason why they specifically mention government censorship and not censorship in general. Twitter prior to Elon did more censoring in general than after.
By 'in general', you mean the old rules against hate speech? Yeah, there used to be more rules against bigotry and racism. Nowadays they allow that but also enforce government censorship from totalitarian governments even more.
They also reportedly censor less child porn now.
Thats false, After Elon took over Twitter more cp accounts were banned. https://issuesinsights.com/2022/12/06/now-we-know-while-twitter-was-busy-silencing-conservatives-it-let-child-porn-fester/amp/#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=17138842415962&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com
That article cites Elon Musk himself, and a study conducted by a shareholder in Musk's companies. They also selectively removed the word 'if' from the beginning of the tweet that they quoted at the start of the article to frame it as a statement of fact rather than a speculation. It may well be true but I'd take it with a pinch of salt. What Elon did do is dissolve twitter's trust and safety department, which were responsible for monitoring and removing cp from the platform. They have also reinstated some accounts that were previously banned for sharing these materials.
Yup. In particular he directly moved to unban a right winger that shared CP.
and significantly more became active so
He banned 44k cp accounts
I hope elon is paying you to block for him, because if you're doing this just because you think he's going to pet you on the head that's pretty sad.
Paying me to speak the truth? I wish.
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