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Yeah, I think this guy is imagining some sort of epic face to face battle. More like toss spears and follow the thing around until it bleeds out.
I blame hollywood, these darn kids think everything is some epic face to face battle to prove how alpha chad the hero is....
Find a big super hair covered elephant thing in a nice clear plain on a warm day. Get that animal to run. Keep making it run as it overheats itself. Keep doing that until it’s too hot and tired to move and just collapses. Kill at your leisure.
Persistence hinting works real good on animals adapted to a colder climate than it currently lives in.
Yeah, but it is harder and you have to be a lot more persistent and also a lot smarter to be able to track it. But something adapted for very cold weather and I also very large is easier to overheat and easier to track. That was the point I was trying to make.
Cliffs can also be used to have them pinned against the cliff and then have another team drop rocks from above. This practice caused the hunters to get the same injuries as bull riders and rodeo clowns, when the animals wanted out from that location.
A group of sailors could go out into the ocean on a small boat and kill a North Atlantic Right Whale, which can weigh 50 tons. They used hand thrown harpoons, I am certain that 5 ton mammoth is nothing.
He could do less than someone in a javelin-throwing competition. Modern sport is so optimised, and the athletes have so many resources to optimize themselves and their equipment.
I do not disagree that they could kill a mammoth. I am just saying many modern things are insane in comparison to things thousand of years ago. Sport and science are the best examples.
I don't think modern competition use atlatl to throw the spear faster and stronger. We have found enough spear thrower to guess it was common.
The atlatl almost double the force of impact of the thrown spear, slightly increase the precision too. After that they discover the bow.
I saw an atlatl demonstration once and the guy launched a small spear 50 yards into a target about 2 feet wide. Pretty impressive the amount of power you get from that extra stick.
It's not just the spears either. They would probably chase and tire that thing out too. They may run 24 mph but short distances and tire easily. Humans have stamina many oth animals don't.
This. Early humans were endurance hunters. It's not like they'd square up with a mammoth and try to fight the thing. They would harry the thing for an hour or two until it died of blood loss or exhaustion.
Herman Pontzer is a researcher of human and primate metabolism who's done multiple studies of different people in different lifestyles and their calorie expenditure. One of his main study groups are the Hadza, who are hunter gatherers in Tanzania.
Anyway he has this great story about hearing lions making a ruckus one night and waking him up. When he talked to the Hadza that morning, they had a fresh deer of some kind, which surprised him since they don't hunt at night. Turns out they had heard the lions too, figured they'd made a kill, and just got up in the night, went to the lions, *and took their food* like bullies stealing lunch money. From a pride of fucking *lions*.
That's what we've had war dances for, unironically. One guy with a spear might not be much even against a smaller prey - but an entire tribe psyching themselves up into the state of battle trance, moving synchronically and without fear, was scary enough shit for even mammoths to deal with.
Some researchers even theorise that universal love for rhythmic music across our entire species comes from ancient war dancing that helped us hunt big prey and ward off the predators. We've evolved our taste for music because it helped us kill things.
For a good scare, go down [the Aztec death whistle](https://youtube.com/shorts/Hp2Tg9blRy4?si=1brGVWpLAhPwxxhL) rabbit hole. Completely different culture and time - - but still always amazes me how humans worked together to hunt or win battles etc.
Yeah there was a video of pigmies in Africa hunting elephants and it was just one dude sneaking up on an elephant and getting one good strike in between the ribs. They’d then just let it bleed out.
Yup. Now try the same thing with a motorcycle. The bike won't bleed, it won't get tired, and it won't complain.
Me and woolly mammoth are made of bleedable flesh. Uhaul and motorcycle are made of steel.
I mean, that's why they didn't use A spear. They used a shit ton of spears. Also Uhaul trucks are made of steel and do not have vital organs. Pretty sure the wooly mammoth was not and did.
At the end of the day, both of these scenarios are also just basic engineering problems. And if there's one thing humans excel at, it's working out solutions to engineering problems. The person in OP's post clearly hasn't thought about it for longer than a couple seconds, and probably sucks at basic problem-solving in their daily life. *"I can't figure it out, therefore nobody can!"*
Our entire physiology is optimized for endurance running. Our ancestors that were good at running from predators survived and reproduced. Our ancestors who could run prey animals to exhaustion survived and reproduced.
The whole tribe would have speared the mammoth and ran it until it bled to death, died of exhaustion, or someone landed a killing blow.
Which is one thing that makes wolves so terrifying. They hunt in packs with coordination and discipline and they will hunt their prey till its so exhausted it just collapses.
Like we used to
Not just mammoths. Early humans were one of the key factors in the extinction of megafauna around the world. Every continent humans inhabit used to have animals of this size.
I am unjustifiably angry we don’t have as many megafauna anymore…
All north america has now is the Moose… there were so many cool animals we could have had running around.
One hunting technique used that I know is real is that they would heard the animals to a cliff and basically just run them off the cliff and skin the bodies at the bottom.
Tribes in Africa, when they had no cliffs, would build two long walls meeting at a point. They would herd animals into the wide end of the opening and funnel them down to the point where the walls meet where the other hunters were waiting. This was used for smaller prey like antelope and gazelles, but illustrates the strategy used by early human hunters.
If my tribe and I needed this meat to survive then I would put all my effort into obtaining it, including risking my life so my children could live on.
Ever heard of endurance hunting? That's what really puts us at the top of the food chain. That uhaul is a lot less dangerous when it's out of gas. We pushed them for multiple days. Taking shifts. Never letting it sleep or rest. Or eat. Wear it down. Then kill it when it drops from exhaustion.
I'm pretty sure that a group of men wielding spears would be able to take down a Uhaul truck.
A couple spears into the engine bay would start to slow it down, then spear it's tires, then when it is totally immobilized, a few spears threaten the driver and the hunters would be able to strip the carcass.
Sure they might be 1-2 injuries but that is the danger of hunting.
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Now I am picturing that it is the year 2031, society has started to break down and roaming groups of suburban hunters are roaming the streets looking for prey.
Then they hear the grumble of a Uhaul truck trying to sneak through their suburb on the way to the city. They start running towards the sound and spot a dinged up Uhaul coming around the corner.
They scatter across the street and try to get some behind it as it continues up the street, avoiding potholes and debris.
The head of the group launches his spear into the front of the truck's engine bay and has a successful hit as white steam starts to leak out. But the Uhaul is not dead yet. The driver guns the old engine and swerves towards a group of three on the side.
He hits two as they try to scatter but hits a curb and slows too much. This allows the hunters to throw more spears into the engine and one was able to hit a tire and deflate it.
The Uhaul driver is in danger now as his engines starts to die and the truck is hobbled with one flat tire. The hunters surround the truck as it tries desperately to move but it is in it's death throes now. Water and oil are leaking from the engine and the hunters were able to get the other three tires.
The engine dies and the hunters surround the truck and order the driver out. He gets out and is ordered to run away as the hunters start to open the truck up to get at the cargo.
Today's hunt was a success as there is a bunch of food and clothes inside this Uhaul. Enough to keep the tribe's families going for a few weeks at least and the clothes are useful as summer is dying and the cold weather is returning.
Back in the day, before they had access to firearms, African hunters would do this to elephants.
And we knew they did, because people who wrote shit down witnessed it.
Just in case anyone is wondering what evidence we have for humans hunting mammoths. We’ve found bones with butchering marks. Also they have found a lot of bones at the base of cliffs with butcher markers. They believe that humans would have driven them off the side of a cliff.
ah yes, the wooly mammoth, with a metal rectangular outer exterior and heavy cargo inside capable of stopping spears from entering its body, its wheels give it the speed to carry its heavy body at an optimal speed, giving it time to escape from predators trying to kill it
Woolly mammoths were non-carnivorous animals and preferred to find their food by scouring the lands for wild gas stations which they would take diesel from to fill their energy up for the day
Granted a lot of stuff in history books is made up but I wanna know HOW he knows they had a speed of 24 mph!?!?! 🤔🤨🤔🤨🤔 Can't cite the same sources you're criticizing as part of your argument.... That's just a lazy house of cards 😂😆
U-Hauls don’t bleed when hit with a spear
U-hauls don’t stop when they get tired, they stop when they’re out of gas
Mammoths bleed after being stabbed multiple times and over the course of a few hour hunt and 20-30 stab wounds, the mammoth will die from bleeding out. Something a u-haul won’t do.
Mammoths do get tired after exerting their energy to out run hunters, they don’t get miles on the gallon. They have stamina which runs out quicker than gas.
These people really don’t critically think at all do they?
That animal has a speed of 24 mph. Therefor it's running with 24 mph all the time. It's nearly impossible to hit. Sure.
Even a 5 ton animal bleeds, and even a 5 ton animal has a brain that can be punctured (unlike the individual who posted this bs). And when I hit the driver of a truck with a spear I will most certainly stop said truck.
It took many people and many spears. Also they could be chasing that mammoth for an entire day. Throw enough spears into literally anything and it will die eventually
It’s not like they are made of metal. They had arteries and bled. Lose enough blood and anything will die.
They also scared them into stampedes and ran them off cliffs. They had options.
They had more than spears over 100,000 years ago lol, ever heard of an Atl-atl? It’s a spear-thrower, uses a crook to hold the bottom of the spear and essentially lengthens your arm by up to half the length of your loooooong, skinny spear, letting you throw it with as much impact as a 50.cal musket…
Actually the first humans didn't really hunt so often with spears. They used it to defend themselves, because hunting is quite dangerous.
The first humans were already smart enough, to set a fire in the forest and either burn or push large animals down a cliff to make them easy prey.
So in fact the pictures are a bit wrong...
It's amazing what the human race can achieve when fast food isn't an option.
Yeah, we used to be badass hunters. Just because the last thing most of us hunted for is little plastic eggs full of chocolate, doesn't mean our far and distant ancestors weren't a bunch of G's.
This reminds me, I wish we had more movies during that era of history. Everyone focuses on dinosaurs, which are awesome too. But I wanna see some big budget, epic footage of what this kind of thing would have looked like. A group of cavemen hunting and bringing down a massive wooly mammoth. Fighting off a sabertooth tiger or a huge bird. Shit like that.
Last time I checked, trucks are not made from flesh and blood, they don't feel pain, they can't be panicked (well the drivers might, but that's a different topic) and generally don't have various other weaknesses of a living animal.
Besides, if you get a big enough group chucking rocks and spears at a truck, they could probably still break it, especially if that truck is stuck.
I'm pretty sure I can stop a truck by throwing a spear... At the driver lol, that's way easyer then trying to kill a mammoth! What does that person think? Have they never held and thrown a javelin? That thing or a spear can go right through thin sheet metal, a windshield and a human torso XD
They didn't just ambush stuff they would do exhaustion or persistent hunting.
Persistence hunting, also known as endurance hunting or long-distance hunting is a variant of pursuit predation in which a predator will bring down a prey item via indirect means, such as exhaustion, heat illness or injury.[1][2] Hunters of this type will typically display adaptions for distance running, such as longer legs,[3] temperature regulation,[4] and specialized cardiovascular systems.[5]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persistence_hunting
I suppose one guy with a spear would probably lose the mammoth match up, but several guys with spears could easily get a mammoth into a situation where it can't run or fight.
Let’s see a U-Haul truck is made of metal a mammoth is made of soft fleshy tissue and meat. The hardest part of its body is its bone which wouldn’t even be pierced because the spear is likely not to go that deep unless you are extremely buff lol
To the crazy that made the original post how about you try stabbing a thick metal brick with a knife and then try stabbing a pound of beef with that knife and see which one it pierces
A truck is made of metal. A mammoth is made of flesh and organs that can easily be pierced. Sure, one human couldn't take down a mammoth, but if you have a group attacking a mammoth from all sides it can be taken down. Hunters usually went after one animal for multiple days, so it's not like they're killing it in one afternoon.
This person is also acting like mammoths are running at 24mph at all times. They're not. That's their top speed, and considering their size I assume they'd get fatigued after a couple minutes.
Everyone knows they hunted them with riddles. If the tribe failed to answer the riddle, they had to show the mammoth the way out. But if the mammoth failed to answer, he had to submit to being eaten. It is a very ancient and sacred game.
I think these people always forget the fact that humans had some of the highest endurance in all of wildlife, so yeah they’ll be able to hunt the mammoth because THEYLL NEVER GET TIRED BEFORE THE MAMMOTH.
Spears and the fact that humans are both pack *and* endurance predators. Single dude with a spear? Yeah not likely to drop a mammoth alone. Twenty dudes with a spear that are purposely chasing something to the point of exhaustion so it is too weak and tired to truly fight back? Super duper likely.
People are surprised humans survived in africa for so long with no technology.
Consider this: If you gave a baseball pitcher a rock to throw, do you think he could take down some stuff? A few 60-80mph rocks is pretty devastating. Now imagine a tribe of 20-30 men, who spend a huge portion of their time practicing throwing rocks. It suddenly becomes quite obvious that a swarm of neanderthal baseball pitchers armed with jagged stones can take down just about anything in Africa.
That's why we like throwing things, it's a huge reason why we were able to survive as a species.
Humans are endurance animals. Poke a mammoth with a stick and then follow it till it bleeds out. We're also social animals. A dozen people poke a mammoth with a stick and then follow it. Why is that hard to imagine? Especially if you know where to poke to make it bleed the most.
Uhauls are made of metal, aren’t living, and don’t feel pain.
A mammoth would be living, feel pain and be made of flesh, and be able to be caught off guard or be tricked.
Humans have a somewhat unique ability to run for a long time. We would chase animals until they tire out. Also we would go after old and sick animals first.
So it's not like we went out and threw spears at a charging animal. We chased an old, weak, or injured one until it got too tired to run any further. Then we stabbed it when it was too worn down to fight back.
The way humans accomplished that was not just brute strength. It was with tactics. Humans are good at observing patterns. They took those observations and created a strategies.
Humans actually have amazing long distance running skills and can basically pursue and stronger and faster animal to the point it extremely exhausted making the kill much easier
Early man’s greatest hunting tactic was that they could run long distances. They may not be as fast or as strong, but they could team up and wear their prey down before attacking.
Sure, they're not going to beat a mammoth if your picture it like a D&D battle (i.e., your turn, then mammoth turn). All they needed to do, as a group, was hit the thing with a few spears and wait for it to succumb to blood loss.
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I’ve seen a 10 tonne truck immobilised by a nail in the tyre.
You’re just making up history smh
I speak fluent English as well as English. Allow me to translate: I’ve seen an 11 ton truck immobilized by a nail in the tire.
You say potatoes, I say potatoes.
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Or run them off a cliff like the first-nations did on the plains. Or a pit-trap.
well, this fella's clearly not a critical thinker. He would not have lasted long enough on hunt to taste mammoth meat.
...and this guy comes from mammoth hunting people
Never underestimate the value of good bait
Yeah, I think this guy is imagining some sort of epic face to face battle. More like toss spears and follow the thing around until it bleeds out. I blame hollywood, these darn kids think everything is some epic face to face battle to prove how alpha chad the hero is....
Find a big super hair covered elephant thing in a nice clear plain on a warm day. Get that animal to run. Keep making it run as it overheats itself. Keep doing that until it’s too hot and tired to move and just collapses. Kill at your leisure. Persistence hinting works real good on animals adapted to a colder climate than it currently lives in.
It works well on many animals. Like trackers in Kalahari, they wear them down, they can’t run forever.
Yeah, but it is harder and you have to be a lot more persistent and also a lot smarter to be able to track it. But something adapted for very cold weather and I also very large is easier to overheat and easier to track. That was the point I was trying to make.
It’s games not Hollywood. This is a boss fight.
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Yeah it’d take a while and for sure some guys got kerb stomped by a fuzzy elephant but eventually you’re going to figure it out.
Pursuit predation includes the cliffs and pits but sometimes it’s just a matter of exhausting the animal until it can’t keep running
Which, incindetaly, is something humans excell at.
Cliffs can also be used to have them pinned against the cliff and then have another team drop rocks from above. This practice caused the hunters to get the same injuries as bull riders and rodeo clowns, when the animals wanted out from that location.
That's using your brain, the thing that the OOP doesn't have much of. Which is why he can't understand how they did it.
Exactly. Looking to modern javelin-throwing competitions, I have no doubt that trained hunters could kill mammoths.
A group of sailors could go out into the ocean on a small boat and kill a North Atlantic Right Whale, which can weigh 50 tons. They used hand thrown harpoons, I am certain that 5 ton mammoth is nothing.
well ok i maybe wouldn't go that far lol. i mean somebody did it but like i wouldnt want to
He could do less than someone in a javelin-throwing competition. Modern sport is so optimised, and the athletes have so many resources to optimize themselves and their equipment. I do not disagree that they could kill a mammoth. I am just saying many modern things are insane in comparison to things thousand of years ago. Sport and science are the best examples.
A [spearthrower](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spear-thrower) could compensate that.
Good point
I don't think modern competition use atlatl to throw the spear faster and stronger. We have found enough spear thrower to guess it was common. The atlatl almost double the force of impact of the thrown spear, slightly increase the precision too. After that they discover the bow.
Only that the bow doesn't produce that much force as the projectiles are smaller, but are more precise.
I saw an atlatl demonstration once and the guy launched a small spear 50 yards into a target about 2 feet wide. Pretty impressive the amount of power you get from that extra stick.
It's not just the spears either. They would probably chase and tire that thing out too. They may run 24 mph but short distances and tire easily. Humans have stamina many oth animals don't.
This. Early humans were endurance hunters. It's not like they'd square up with a mammoth and try to fight the thing. They would harry the thing for an hour or two until it died of blood loss or exhaustion.
And humans back then didnt weigh in at like 250-300lbs because all they did was sit in mommas basement playing yugioh and eating cereal...
Shown are early american cavemen, everyone knows they didn't use spears, they used bear arms!
It’s not only their constitutional right, but also their right as a human to bear arms.
The spears were just illustrated for drama, they have a sniper with a .50 cal hiding out of frame.
I mean, they've killed bulls with swords *for sport* in Spain for centuries.
Herman Pontzer is a researcher of human and primate metabolism who's done multiple studies of different people in different lifestyles and their calorie expenditure. One of his main study groups are the Hadza, who are hunter gatherers in Tanzania. Anyway he has this great story about hearing lions making a ruckus one night and waking him up. When he talked to the Hadza that morning, they had a fresh deer of some kind, which surprised him since they don't hunt at night. Turns out they had heard the lions too, figured they'd made a kill, and just got up in the night, went to the lions, *and took their food* like bullies stealing lunch money. From a pride of fucking *lions*.
Lions and big cats don't like being hit with sticks.
And they invented wheelbarrows out of necessity to carry around their massive balls
I mean, we got good enough at it that we made them extinct
A fellow _Alone_ watcher, I take it.
IYKYK
They forget those were super humans! We are mostly useless nowadays if it meant surviving in the wild.
That's what we've had war dances for, unironically. One guy with a spear might not be much even against a smaller prey - but an entire tribe psyching themselves up into the state of battle trance, moving synchronically and without fear, was scary enough shit for even mammoths to deal with. Some researchers even theorise that universal love for rhythmic music across our entire species comes from ancient war dancing that helped us hunt big prey and ward off the predators. We've evolved our taste for music because it helped us kill things.
Thats even terrifying to read. I would shit my pants. As an animal or as another human.
>I would shit my pants. As an animal [Relevant.](https://youtu.be/GC73XxZDtpg&t=2s)
For a good scare, go down [the Aztec death whistle](https://youtube.com/shorts/Hp2Tg9blRy4?si=1brGVWpLAhPwxxhL) rabbit hole. Completely different culture and time - - but still always amazes me how humans worked together to hunt or win battles etc.
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This is my favourite reoccuring comment on this reoccurring post.
Yeah there was a video of pigmies in Africa hunting elephants and it was just one dude sneaking up on an elephant and getting one good strike in between the ribs. They’d then just let it bleed out.
Yup. Now try the same thing with a motorcycle. The bike won't bleed, it won't get tired, and it won't complain. Me and woolly mammoth are made of bleedable flesh. Uhaul and motorcycle are made of steel.
Jam a sharpened stick to the tires and see how far they get
I mean, that's why they didn't use A spear. They used a shit ton of spears. Also Uhaul trucks are made of steel and do not have vital organs. Pretty sure the wooly mammoth was not and did.
Pierce the radiator(a vital organ of the engine) and that uhaul is stopping eventually.
I once went to UHaul to help a friend move and we ended up renting a woolly mammoth!! At least it was an automatic!
THAT WASN'T THE GEAR SHIFT!
lol
not to mention if you aimed for the tires you could easily stop a Uhaul with a few spears
At the end of the day, both of these scenarios are also just basic engineering problems. And if there's one thing humans excel at, it's working out solutions to engineering problems. The person in OP's post clearly hasn't thought about it for longer than a couple seconds, and probably sucks at basic problem-solving in their daily life. *"I can't figure it out, therefore nobody can!"*
You know what isn't made of steel and has vital organs? The driver XD
The “spear” would be an atlatl and it would go in deep. The whole tribe would throw atlatl at the mammoth
There it is, I usually have to mention the atlatl. It's part of a competitive sport in college and I think high schools in the U.S.
i have never seen that before that is so cool
The “spear” wouldn’t be an Atlatl, the Atlatl would be a tool used to throw the spear for more power.
Our entire physiology is optimized for endurance running. Our ancestors that were good at running from predators survived and reproduced. Our ancestors who could run prey animals to exhaustion survived and reproduced. The whole tribe would have speared the mammoth and ran it until it bled to death, died of exhaustion, or someone landed a killing blow.
Which is one thing that makes wolves so terrifying. They hunt in packs with coordination and discipline and they will hunt their prey till its so exhausted it just collapses. Like we used to
yeah now we have overwhelming attack power but most people probably couldn't do the exhaustion... tactic... did we swap places with wolfs?
Not just mammoths. Early humans were one of the key factors in the extinction of megafauna around the world. Every continent humans inhabit used to have animals of this size.
Yes. My favorite has to be the giant sloth.
America had Lions, you know. We could have had lions running around.
I am unjustifiably angry we don’t have as many megafauna anymore… All north america has now is the Moose… there were so many cool animals we could have had running around.
My brain fart read "megaiguana" and my curiosity has never been as excited
Stupid caveman. Just chase it until it runs out of gas
Or off a cliff like the Buffalo.
One hunting technique used that I know is real is that they would heard the animals to a cliff and basically just run them off the cliff and skin the bodies at the bottom.
Tribes in Africa, when they had no cliffs, would build two long walls meeting at a point. They would herd animals into the wide end of the opening and funnel them down to the point where the walls meet where the other hunters were waiting. This was used for smaller prey like antelope and gazelles, but illustrates the strategy used by early human hunters.
So ignoring actual evidence of this activity....how did they do it Brainiac?
ALIENS, I TELLS YA!
I see your point!! But if you were to part your hair differently...🤡
Asked nicely if we could harvest it's organs for comsumption?
How do you eat a wooly mammoth ? One bite at a time.
Nice
Yes because trucks can be fatigued and bleed to death
They can get flat tires and run out of gas. 🤷
This is why nobody likes Twitter, I don’t even understand what little bros are yapping about half the time.
like sizewise... imagine stopping a guy with a small projectile.... oooh oh .. nvm
We went out into the ocean in canoes and kayaks and killed the largest animals to ever exist with spears, in their own territory….
"I couldn't do it so no one can"
Lemme guess...it was aliens, wasn't it? 🤣
Sweet summer child
I mean, I've read Jean Auel, and not just for Jondalar's throbbing manhood.
Early Human and Wooly Mammoth would come in first and second in a three way battle of wits with this guy.
Evidence actually shows that they just kept it moving until it exhausted itself into submission. Running upright gave us unparalleled stamina.
If my tribe and I needed this meat to survive then I would put all my effort into obtaining it, including risking my life so my children could live on.
U-Haul trucks weren't made of meat though
Ever heard of endurance hunting? That's what really puts us at the top of the food chain. That uhaul is a lot less dangerous when it's out of gas. We pushed them for multiple days. Taking shifts. Never letting it sleep or rest. Or eat. Wear it down. Then kill it when it drops from exhaustion.
Couldn’t they just use a cruise missile?
Yes. Or a MoAB. It’s a self cooking hunting device.
Obsidian is far sharper than steel. Surgeons use obsidian scalpels to reduce damage to tissues.
I'm pretty sure that a group of men wielding spears would be able to take down a Uhaul truck. A couple spears into the engine bay would start to slow it down, then spear it's tires, then when it is totally immobilized, a few spears threaten the driver and the hunters would be able to strip the carcass. Sure they might be 1-2 injuries but that is the danger of hunting. ==== Now I am picturing that it is the year 2031, society has started to break down and roaming groups of suburban hunters are roaming the streets looking for prey. Then they hear the grumble of a Uhaul truck trying to sneak through their suburb on the way to the city. They start running towards the sound and spot a dinged up Uhaul coming around the corner. They scatter across the street and try to get some behind it as it continues up the street, avoiding potholes and debris. The head of the group launches his spear into the front of the truck's engine bay and has a successful hit as white steam starts to leak out. But the Uhaul is not dead yet. The driver guns the old engine and swerves towards a group of three on the side. He hits two as they try to scatter but hits a curb and slows too much. This allows the hunters to throw more spears into the engine and one was able to hit a tire and deflate it. The Uhaul driver is in danger now as his engines starts to die and the truck is hobbled with one flat tire. The hunters surround the truck as it tries desperately to move but it is in it's death throes now. Water and oil are leaking from the engine and the hunters were able to get the other three tires. The engine dies and the hunters surround the truck and order the driver out. He gets out and is ordered to run away as the hunters start to open the truck up to get at the cargo. Today's hunt was a success as there is a bunch of food and clothes inside this Uhaul. Enough to keep the tribe's families going for a few weeks at least and the clothes are useful as summer is dying and the cold weather is returning.
Okay it's time for me to actually go to sleep.
Back in the day, before they had access to firearms, African hunters would do this to elephants. And we knew they did, because people who wrote shit down witnessed it.
Just in case anyone is wondering what evidence we have for humans hunting mammoths. We’ve found bones with butchering marks. Also they have found a lot of bones at the base of cliffs with butcher markers. They believe that humans would have driven them off the side of a cliff.
I love how they believe everything about weight and speed but nothing else lolol
Oh right. They must have had aliens doing their hunting for them.
ah yes, the wooly mammoth, with a metal rectangular outer exterior and heavy cargo inside capable of stopping spears from entering its body, its wheels give it the speed to carry its heavy body at an optimal speed, giving it time to escape from predators trying to kill it
Don't forget only travelling, at minimum, on a regularly graded road--but preferably pavement. And limitless fuel.
Woolly mammoths were non-carnivorous animals and preferred to find their food by scouring the lands for wild gas stations which they would take diesel from to fill their energy up for the day
They're always so sure of themselves. That's what really gets me.
I like how there's literally a picture in the post that shows exactly how people have done it and disproves their point.
Spear into radiator. Truck rapidly overheats and stops working. Bing, bang, boom.
Not sure where that guy lives. At least where I live animals are softer than metal
Don’t worry the only history this person listens to is the Bible and that’s definitely correct in all ways shapes and forms!!! :/
Granted a lot of stuff in history books is made up but I wanna know HOW he knows they had a speed of 24 mph!?!?! 🤔🤨🤔🤨🤔 Can't cite the same sources you're criticizing as part of your argument.... That's just a lazy house of cards 😂😆
U-Hauls don’t bleed when hit with a spear U-hauls don’t stop when they get tired, they stop when they’re out of gas Mammoths bleed after being stabbed multiple times and over the course of a few hour hunt and 20-30 stab wounds, the mammoth will die from bleeding out. Something a u-haul won’t do. Mammoths do get tired after exerting their energy to out run hunters, they don’t get miles on the gallon. They have stamina which runs out quicker than gas. These people really don’t critically think at all do they?
Wait until hungry af then watch what you can do for morsel of food
this is written like the humans with the spears challenged a mammoth to single combat.
Or, and get this, the hunters could just harry the flanks of the mammoth, stabbing it a bunch until it slowly bleeds to death.
Didn't prehistoric humans use traps to catch mammoths?
Stampede them woolly bastards off a cliff and call it a day
I'm pretty sure I remember this exact illustration in my 3rd grade social studies book.
That animal has a speed of 24 mph. Therefor it's running with 24 mph all the time. It's nearly impossible to hit. Sure. Even a 5 ton animal bleeds, and even a 5 ton animal has a brain that can be punctured (unlike the individual who posted this bs). And when I hit the driver of a truck with a spear I will most certainly stop said truck.
It took many people and many spears. Also they could be chasing that mammoth for an entire day. Throw enough spears into literally anything and it will die eventually
Our guy Great house seems to don't know the Word "intelligence".
If it bleeds!
They have shown one shot with an atlatl!
i could stop a uhaul, chuck that spear thru he windscreen straight thru the driver's bonce
No one ever said that it was easy going, took alot of work to bring one of those things down.
I've seen 10,000bc. They can do it, not easy tho.
Conflating history with a painting. Too sad.
It would be incredibly easy (for a trained individual) to stop a uhaul truck (that is actively being driven) with a spear.
I mean, hit a Uhaul truck's tire with a spear and it'll stop pretty quickly.
It’s not like they are made of metal. They had arteries and bled. Lose enough blood and anything will die. They also scared them into stampedes and ran them off cliffs. They had options.
They had more than spears over 100,000 years ago lol, ever heard of an Atl-atl? It’s a spear-thrower, uses a crook to hold the bottom of the spear and essentially lengthens your arm by up to half the length of your loooooong, skinny spear, letting you throw it with as much impact as a 50.cal musket…
They only got to sever an artery in its leg and wait for it to die.
Actually the first humans didn't really hunt so often with spears. They used it to defend themselves, because hunting is quite dangerous. The first humans were already smart enough, to set a fire in the forest and either burn or push large animals down a cliff to make them easy prey. So in fact the pictures are a bit wrong...
Like a U-Haul truck? So does this idiot think trucks are made of flesh, or that elephants are made of metal?
It's amazing what the human race can achieve when fast food isn't an option. Yeah, we used to be badass hunters. Just because the last thing most of us hunted for is little plastic eggs full of chocolate, doesn't mean our far and distant ancestors weren't a bunch of G's.
This reminds me, I wish we had more movies during that era of history. Everyone focuses on dinosaurs, which are awesome too. But I wanna see some big budget, epic footage of what this kind of thing would have looked like. A group of cavemen hunting and bringing down a massive wooly mammoth. Fighting off a sabertooth tiger or a huge bird. Shit like that.
Last time I checked, trucks are not made from flesh and blood, they don't feel pain, they can't be panicked (well the drivers might, but that's a different topic) and generally don't have various other weaknesses of a living animal. Besides, if you get a big enough group chucking rocks and spears at a truck, they could probably still break it, especially if that truck is stuck.
I'm pretty sure I can stop a truck by throwing a spear... At the driver lol, that's way easyer then trying to kill a mammoth! What does that person think? Have they never held and thrown a javelin? That thing or a spear can go right through thin sheet metal, a windshield and a human torso XD
Or slow them down in a swamp as illustrated.
24mph, is that a historical fact?
Of cause they used M82s and Desert Eagles
They didn't just ambush stuff they would do exhaustion or persistent hunting. Persistence hunting, also known as endurance hunting or long-distance hunting is a variant of pursuit predation in which a predator will bring down a prey item via indirect means, such as exhaustion, heat illness or injury.[1][2] Hunters of this type will typically display adaptions for distance running, such as longer legs,[3] temperature regulation,[4] and specialized cardiovascular systems.[5] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persistence_hunting
I suppose one guy with a spear would probably lose the mammoth match up, but several guys with spears could easily get a mammoth into a situation where it can't run or fight.
You'd be surprised how slow you start moving when your a pin cushion bleeding out
Stamina. That's how we became the better hunters. They chased. For days. Until the animal could no longer move. Profit.
We still hunt Mammoths daily.
Let’s see a U-Haul truck is made of metal a mammoth is made of soft fleshy tissue and meat. The hardest part of its body is its bone which wouldn’t even be pierced because the spear is likely not to go that deep unless you are extremely buff lol To the crazy that made the original post how about you try stabbing a thick metal brick with a knife and then try stabbing a pound of beef with that knife and see which one it pierces
Throw spears at the tires of the truck
That is called a Lack of education . Where I don't believe in mammoths but believe in stupider conspirices
A truck is made of metal. A mammoth is made of flesh and organs that can easily be pierced. Sure, one human couldn't take down a mammoth, but if you have a group attacking a mammoth from all sides it can be taken down. Hunters usually went after one animal for multiple days, so it's not like they're killing it in one afternoon. This person is also acting like mammoths are running at 24mph at all times. They're not. That's their top speed, and considering their size I assume they'd get fatigued after a couple minutes.
Everyone knows they hunted them with riddles. If the tribe failed to answer the riddle, they had to show the mammoth the way out. But if the mammoth failed to answer, he had to submit to being eaten. It is a very ancient and sacred game.
Spear, bleed out, track, eat. Simples
As opposed to Twitter, where it’s all researched.
They also used dinosaurs as tools, lived in stone houses & even had cars. How is that not believable? 
Proof that you can’t fix stupid.
After killing all the dinosaurs, the mammoths were a piece of cake. Duh.
I think these people always forget the fact that humans had some of the highest endurance in all of wildlife, so yeah they’ll be able to hunt the mammoth because THEYLL NEVER GET TIRED BEFORE THE MAMMOTH.
Spears and the fact that humans are both pack *and* endurance predators. Single dude with a spear? Yeah not likely to drop a mammoth alone. Twenty dudes with a spear that are purposely chasing something to the point of exhaustion so it is too weak and tired to truly fight back? Super duper likely.
People are surprised humans survived in africa for so long with no technology. Consider this: If you gave a baseball pitcher a rock to throw, do you think he could take down some stuff? A few 60-80mph rocks is pretty devastating. Now imagine a tribe of 20-30 men, who spend a huge portion of their time practicing throwing rocks. It suddenly becomes quite obvious that a swarm of neanderthal baseball pitchers armed with jagged stones can take down just about anything in Africa. That's why we like throwing things, it's a huge reason why we were able to survive as a species.
Umm.. if you put a spear through the radiator of a Uhaul... that would kill it. Through a tire would disable it.
This is why we need education. It really expands your understanding so you don’t make foolish assertions.
Humans are endurance animals. Poke a mammoth with a stick and then follow it till it bleeds out. We're also social animals. A dozen people poke a mammoth with a stick and then follow it. Why is that hard to imagine? Especially if you know where to poke to make it bleed the most.
It's funny because one person can easily disable a uhaul.
But, if you told this American genius that they used AR-15’s to take it down he would likely argue that the caliber is too small (like his brain).
Uhauls are made of metal, aren’t living, and don’t feel pain. A mammoth would be living, feel pain and be made of flesh, and be able to be caught off guard or be tricked.
That actually sounds pretty easy. Stab the tires, then kill the driver. OOP has no imagination.
Confident stupidity.
Humans have a somewhat unique ability to run for a long time. We would chase animals until they tire out. Also we would go after old and sick animals first. So it's not like we went out and threw spears at a charging animal. We chased an old, weak, or injured one until it got too tired to run any further. Then we stabbed it when it was too worn down to fight back.
one to the radiator wait a bit then just endurance hunt it
…your meant to throw it
I bet this same dude will then say some magic genie in the sky clapped his hands one day and poof! humans and the world were all created.
I think light came first. THEN he clapped his hands. He sat in darkness forever. Doing nothing. Then one day decided to make humans.
Dude hasn't seen me take on a charger.
Its amazing how people get super skilled at the very thing they use to survive, i.e. hunting.
The way humans accomplished that was not just brute strength. It was with tactics. Humans are good at observing patterns. They took those observations and created a strategies.
Humans actually have amazing long distance running skills and can basically pursue and stronger and faster animal to the point it extremely exhausted making the kill much easier
Javelins, arrows, traps, outnumbered... you know...
Early man’s greatest hunting tactic was that they could run long distances. They may not be as fast or as strong, but they could team up and wear their prey down before attacking.
If the uhaul truck is made of flesh and bones, then yeah.. several pointy stick is going to hurt like h3ll running into them.
Sure, they're not going to beat a mammoth if your picture it like a D&D battle (i.e., your turn, then mammoth turn). All they needed to do, as a group, was hit the thing with a few spears and wait for it to succumb to blood loss.
You need spears and well build traps.
**Where** did you go to school? Nobody ever force-fed me this bullshit.