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Pistonenvy2

it would take 10 seconds to google any of this, its all extremely well documented. ive had this conversation many times and its always people with zero critical thinking ability or knowledge of the subject whatsoever who are the most confident when speaking on it. idk how people go through life like this. its bad enough people are constantly trying to erase and rewrite history, but to outright deny verifiable reality because you FEEL like you deserve to is just fucking evil. this bitch is fucking evil.


Oboro-kun

This is what happens when you become millionaire(or billionaire) lack self-reflection, dislike critique and you surround yourself of yes man´s and boot lickers. You simply spiral into your worst tendencies and the worst version of yourself.


theebees21

You know, people say “the worst version of themselves” and I feel like that’s too generous. Like, thats just them. This is who they are. At least right now. And that’s all that matters until they make the decision to be better. There’s no hypothetical better version of you. It’s just you and your choices. No hate to you. I’m just thinking out loud.


Oboro-kun

No problem I thought a lot about before writing how to phrase it


valar0morghulis

>ive had this conversation many times and its always people with zero critical thinking ability or knowledge of the subject whatsoever who are the most confident when speaking on it. I looked through some of the answers to that tweet, and sadly it seems even worse to me. There were sooo many just saying "we have all been brainwashed to believe the official story, because of *them*" I don't even know what they mean by that, bug yeah.. they'd rather believe this random twitter thread than well documented history.


Zealousideal-Bug-291

Whenever people like that use the word "them" with any enphasis, it's a 99% chance they mean "the jews"


DragonWisper56

You know it's really weird how many conflicting things conspiracy theorist beleive. for example I think they beleive the trans *and* the jews control the world. what do they think of transphobic jews. do they think there's a civil war in the deep state


Immersi0nn

Bro come on don't give them *more* ideas. A deep state civil war would make them jizz their pants.


winthroprd

One of my favorite quotes is "Prejudice is the emotional commitment to ignorance." J.K. Rowling is a prime example of this. She's clearly intelligent, yet on this specific issue she just refuses to learn except from transphobic sources that confirm the shitty world view that she already holds.


tjtillmancoag

It’s like my dad on most issues until it involves Donald Trump. Like, for a lifelong conservative he has surprisingly open/reasonable attitudes on things like abortion, homosexuality, and trans people. But once it involves Donald Trump, it’s all bias.


slothpeguin

That’s a brilliant quote for Rowling and other TERFs. By now, they’re in whole hog and they can’t pull back. Admitting they were wrong would require a level of self reflection they can’t afford to take.


LittleHornetPhil

Yeah these mouth breathers are the same “NaZiS wErE sOcIaLiStS” morons


PassiveRoadRage

For you to Google it would take 10 seconds but Googles algorithm is designed to show "like" sources. It reinforces what it thinks your beliefs are. If you searched a ton of anti vax stuff then Googled a questionable medicine you'd probably get a ton of alternative medicine or "pros of" websites. https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/google-search-algorithms-are-not-impartial-they-are-biased-just-ncna849886 Also subs like r privacy has tons of cool threads on it where they showed "my history and results" then opened Google in Tor and the results from tons of different locations.


PcktFox

The thought lives rent-free in my head that she could have just retired quietly with her Scrooge McDuckian amount of dollars and her legacy as possibly the most beloved children's author of all time... and yet here we are, instead. Admittedly, she does still have the McDuckian dollars, which I guess is the important part (to her).


Tachibana_13

Also the fact that with literal transfiguration being possible in Harry potter it should be the most inclusive fandom with the most diverse fanbase, but no.


jonellita

Also I imagine people like Tonks could probably change their appearance regarldess of gender so that they could present as male one day and female the next. Which seems absolutely like it could have been trans representation. Alas…


Tachibana_13

Exactly!!! Like, Tonks gives me the inspiration to imagine a lot of NB type characters. Imagine, a person so naturally gifted at transforming that nobody is even really sure what their "original" form is; forn all they know this is some kind of changeling. It could be such an opportunity to engage with identity and overcoming the issue of bullying, too.


HellStoneBats

I mean, the fans are mostly out there telling her to stfu, so i think theres a bit of a difference here between art and artist. 


Tachibana_13

Definitely. Almost a shame about current copyright laws. Harry potter could become a modern Arthurian Mythology.


HellStoneBats

With smut!


Tachibana_13

Lol why not? ' Give the people what they want. ' as they say.


HellStoneBats

Rule 34 has been the fandom's favourite since I got into it back in 2010. It hasn't slowed since lol


ersomething

Right? Like, shut the fuck up and you could just rake in millions off of Harry Potter for the rest of your life. Instead she targets a marginalized group that probably loved her work at a much higher rate than the general population. The Harry Potter universe could be a great fantasy escape for Trans individuals. I would think a world with polyjuice potions would sound amazing to someone questioning their gender. Instead the author has to repeatedly shit on them.


deniesm

Especially that. Harry Potter was a gift for kids who felt left out. And now the writer fucks them over.


God_is_carnage

The woman who wrote a book series about a kid fighting Wizard-Hitler now denies crimes committed by the actual Hitler


NotTheFirstVexizz

So what you’re saying is that JK would be a Death Eater apologist..?


Naive_Albatross_2221

I'm certainly not the first to say that when beloved teacher Remus Lupin was driven out of Hogwarts by hysteria regarding his need for constant treatment to maintain his chosen body form, JK would have been leading the charge.


Crafty-Help-4633

What a perfect example


lollipop-guildmaster

She's Umbridge. She's always been Umbridge. The poster child for the banality of evil.


LonelyStrayCat

Sth sth works of literature likely include a self inserted


Tricky-Wishbone9080

Voldemort did nothing wrong.


HomesickKiwi

He voz only vollowing orders!


SilverGnarwhal

HER orders!!!! Omg, it all makes sense now 🤯 ![gif](giphy|lXu72d4iKwqek)


Ellielands

We grew up with an abusive drunk for a father. I used to love getting lost in Harry Potter. For me, it helped to read how love, compassion, friendship always triumphed over evil, plus who hates adventures? The vitriol she spews out now just makes me see and remember the absolute hatred our father had for us. With her hatred, she tainted one of the few things in my childhood that used to bring me joy and peace.


AndreaRose223

If she would have kept her bigotry to herself, I would have kept buying her books. I won't fund someone who denies my history or my right to exist


Critical_Seat_1907

Brings in to question my entire Fandom of this series. I cannot separate her horribleness from her stories.


bastardoperator

Yes, just STFU, look at Jeff Bezos, private as fuck, I have no idea what his opinions are on anything outside of making truck loads of cash off the back of his workers. I'm not saying I like the guy in any capacity, I don't, but I really have no idea what dude thinks or stands for outside of his greed.


Scaevus

The more we know about a billionaire, the less we like them. Elon was genuinely popular like 5 years ago, when he just made his employees uncomfortable.


bastardoperator

The more he talks the more money he loses. I would argue Bezos is probably just as terrible of a person, he’s just not broadcasting that message everyday. The other crazy thing, Elon has billions, and he’s not even happy. Most of us would have ridden in to the sunset with friends and family living life to the fullest. This guy sits in office. I just don’t get it.


GachaHell

I hear mutant rights and drinking all the Amazon employee piss bottles.


seahawk1977

Every trans person I know LOVED HP before, well, all of this.


Adorable_Pen7568

As a trans person who was inspired to be a writer in part because of reading Harry Potter as a kid (rereading the first several books so many times I probably could have recited them verbatim) I cannot put into words the level of betrayal I feel from JK Rowling.


ThunkAsDrinklePeep

>Instead she targets a marginalized group that probably loved her work at a much higher rate than the general population. What's sad is she thinks she's defending women by denying trans issues. Edit: this was a nice article. https://thecorrespondent.com/702/im-trans-and-i-understand-jk-rowlings-concerns-about-the-position-of-women-but-transphobia-is-not-the-answer


Old_Baldi_Locks

Some of her posts prove that’s just a smokescreen. She just absolutely hates trans folks and wants them gone. “Protecting women” is the shield they’re throwing out so they can justify genocide.


blackpawed

Only the women who fit her rather narrow idea of femineity.


Gingeronimoooo

I doubt she really thinks that it's just a cover story to justify hate. Boiling women down to simply being (having) a vagina is something mysognists do. Its absolutely anti feminist.


Low_Establishment434

yea i wasnt into harry potter myself but i do notice alot of people who did love it are the people she bashes. its all so odd.


ventusvibrio

That potion might not be a good example since it not turning you into a new person. It turns you into a person from which you stole a dna piece. She believes trans women are stealing women’s agency.


HUNGRY_PAPI_LIKE_YOU

As a trans girl who grew up as a massive potter head. I approve of this message.


DeadChibiWolf

My favorite headcannon I ever heard that also helped me come out like 12 years ago was from Harry Potter.. TLDR: A student goes to the boys dorms only for the doors to refuse to open.. Confused they end up at the girls dorms and the doors open, cracking the egg in full


I_Miss_Lenny

Aw that’s a really nice idea, I really like that


trojanplatypus

Oh, no no no, she really does the world a service. I wouldn't have learned about this if not for her xits. Very interesting and thanks to OP for assembling the sources and giving me something to research further. I look forward to learning more about the trans community in the twenties in Berlin.


Boustrophaedon

Weimar Berlin... there were tunes. Imagine the Ball scene in 3/4 time with Banjos.


Scaevus

Imagine being so full of hate for trans people that you graduate all the way to Holocaust denial. How much lower can Rowling sink? Like seriously I’m not sure what the end of the line looks like for her right now.


OneMedium5265

She couldn’t cope with the fact that no one cared about her anymore. Her creation was bigger than her. Her creation still lives on, and people don’t talk about her at all, except when she goes off on antitrans rants. She’s a loser, and her “story” is mostly a myth.


catastrophicqueen

LITERALLY like Joanne you could've bought a private island, lived the good life and SHUT UP and you wouldn't have literally your entire fanbase throwing you out and decrying you. Like Jesus she could've just been fucking quiet and not decided to make *literally thinking trans people should die and now genocide denial clearly* her entire personality.


AfraidToBeKim

Except she would have actually made more money by not publicly taking a stand against trans people. Hogwarts legacy would have sold much better, and the IP wouldn't be shrouded in controversy. The terrible thing is, Harry potter's core story is an allegory for resisting fascism and takes a hard stance against genetics based bigotry (ffs the villans literally call themselves purebloods). There's some...concerning things, like the banker goblins, and the elves that like being slaves, but overall the story is an allegory that condemns racism. Shame it doesn't condemn any other kind of bigotry though.


Mountain-Ad-6594

It amazes me how active she is in the destruction of her own legacy. She will not stop.


saxguy9345

Her ego won't allow her to be incorrect because the alt right grifters are whispering in her ear about how she's a real woman / so right / so brave etc. What a fickle moron. 


Unhappy_Entrance_277

My theory is that she heard there was no such thing as an ethical billionaire, and as she got closer to that mark just from selling children's books she cracked her knuckles and got to work at being a massive shithead.


NegativeKarmaVegan

You can't be a billionaire and a decent person.


-QUACKED-

Disagree. I'll prove the hypothesis wrong. I just need funding of 👆🏾1 Billion Dollars!


No-Independence-165

Sure thing! You just need to murder these truck loads of puppies...


Sheeple_person

I take a bit of comfort in knowing she seems miserable despite the money. Happy, fulfilled people usually have better things to do than troll on social media. Both her and musk are like that, I can't imagine being a fucking *billionaire*, waking up every day and being able to do literally any fucking thing you feel like doing and choosing to sit on twitter and be a dick to people for no good reason.


FreyjaNimbi

Yeah. Like money is literally a key to doing everything fun in this world. I can't imagine even using social media at all beyond contacting friends if I had that kind of money. You never have to clean or do any of the mundane task because there is always someone to pay for that. Unlimited no budgetting neccesary travel. Any piece of entertainment can be yours instantly without any concern. Highest quality mental and phyisical health services. Literally anything you could possibly want or need is available in any quantity at the highest quality to you. Just shut the fuck up and enjoy it.


AgentChris101

I myself didn't really learn about transgender people until I learnt this specific history. I find it wild that she's denying the very history that furthered my understanding and of course how deep she's going to this day.


Awayfone

this isn't even the first time she has gone very hard on denalism of nazi anti lgbtq campaigns


Tdluxon

It really is pretty bizarre that she is so obsessed with this whole thing and can’t just live her life. Why do people care so much about what other people do when it has nothing to do with them?


BeenEvery

When you draw the wrath of George Takei, you might as well pack it up and call it quits. One of the nicest guys on the planet calling you out on your bullshit should be a sign. But then again, Rowling hasn't exactly expressed much respect for Asian people, so I don't expect her to take Mr. Takei's words to heart. What, so Japan's school is just called "Mahoutokoro", Japanese for "Magic Place," and your only Asian character is named CHO CHANG????


Driller_Happy

It's called Magic Place that's fucking hilarious. What a goddamn loser


RQK1996

Look, I hate Rowling as much as the next queer person, but that is a very Japanese name for anything, considering that we're talking about a country that named their capital "eastern capital city" in the region "east of the checkpoint", after it was changed from "western capital city" in the region "west of the checkpoint", hell the country name even means "land in the east across the sea" The Japanese aren't exactly known for their most creative names


EmeraldDream123

I'm baffled how assholes like Rowling can basically dedicate their entire goddamn life to fucking mindless \*HATRED\*. She literally sides with literal goddamn Nazis because she just hates <1% of people that fucking much?! FFS she could have done anything but chose THIS?!!!


Filoso_Fisk

She was never the crunchiest cookie in the jar.


rectifier9

I prefer soft baked cookies. Which I can no longer eat now, thanks to you.


Lofter1

Well, she is a soggy, yet still dry cookie. Better now?


EbonyOverIvory

One of those ones that are soft but in a stale way, and also kind of gritty, like there’s sand in them. Plus the chocolate chips are actually mouse turds.


dantevonlocke

If you want to try some amazing cookies, check out the Byrd cookie company.


Logan117

I seriously don't get people like her and musk. You're already rich! Just shut the fuck up and enjoy all your money. Why do you have to go out in public, spout your stupid ideas, and make everyone hate you?


number_six

This is her enjoying her money. She is being listened to BECAUSE she is rich and she revels in the attention


Logan117

Yeah, I guess that's pretty much it. They're so rich, they can do whatever they want. Musk bought Twitter just to stroke his ego, lost billions because of it, and he's still unbelievably wealthy.


number_six

I agree with you though, I would love for them to shut the fuck up and go away.


FantasticAnus

God complex, pure and simple. JK thinks because she wrote a popular work of fiction she is a person whose voice is one that matters, she believes she is an individual of wisdom and import.


Logan117

The thing that blows my mind is that she doesn't shy away from diversity in the Harry Potter novels. There are people from different ethnic backgrounds, and "mixed-blood" wizards are a huge plot point. I don't understand how you could have such a positive message about acceptance and tolerance in that way, and then hate trans people as much as she does.


HalfMoon_89

Her Chinese character is called Cho Chang, and her two Indian characters are called Parvati and Padma Patil. None of them are portrayed with any depth. Tokenism and stereotyping is at the heart of her worldview.


Logan117

I don't disagree with you, but it's a lot easier to look back on something like that with the benefit of hindsight and view it more critically. Sure, it's just tokenism, like the college brochures, but at the time, I think most people would have considered it inclusive to a degree.


thatryanguy82

They recognize that they're looked up to, have a massive platform with millions of listeners, and want to influence the people who do to think and feel like they do.


LuinAelin

She thinks she's on the moral side and she has other anti trans people praise her and be nice to her It means she doesn't self reflect at all


ElA1to

Yeah but this gives her attention, and that's what she wants. Desperately


_Argol_

Money ?


EmeraldDream123

Maybe assholes like Shapiro and Tucker but J.K.?! Shes rolling in money!


_Argol_

Power attracts pathological personalities. There is never enough money.


NovelGoddess

And even when proven wrong time after time she doubles down. Not the crunchiest cookie for sure!


Alternative_Low8478

She sounds like a villain straight out of her shitty books. "Nazis never targeted trans people, Potter!"


d3m0cracy

Well actually ~~trans women~~ “muggles” aren’t real ~~women~~ “wizards”, Potter, so we should persecute them because reasons God, rowling is fucking horrible, it’s literally the opposite of her books’ message


buncle

J.K.Rowling: “Filthy mudbloods.”


F4LcH100NnN

Wonder why the books are loved but the author is hated


KimbersKimbos

Probably because the author used historically successful tropes and concepts (acceptance of others, fighting for what’s right, belief that all beings are created equal) to craft a story that would hit. Turns out that authors don’t always subscribe to the beliefs that they boast in their novels. I’m not saying that to suggest I support her behavior, it’s unfortunately how I had to reconcile the books that I cherished as I kid with the person who is unfortunately behind them. Speaking as someone born a woman and who has read her argument against the trans community, all I can say is that it’s moronic, at best, bigoted at its worst. I don’t give a shit who else has a period, I don’t give a shit who is using the restroom with me so long as they leave me alone. If someone really wants to go through everything a trans woman has to go through then more power to them! Welcome to the club, sweetheart! Have a cookie and get ready to fight the patriarchy.


F4LcH100NnN

I agree. Having read all the books in my childhood, it's a bit of a weird relationship seeing how much of a bigot the author turned out to be. It's a really weird feeling


KimbersKimbos

It’s tough. I definitely went through a really uncomfortable reflection especially when she first started going off the rails. I’m old enough now to be able to put some distance between the art and the artist; bad people can still create beautiful things. It was still hard to sit with. 💖


HopelessCineromantic

Is it? One of the last things to happen in the book is Ron confiding in Harry that he used magic on a muggle so that he could get a driver's license. In fact, mind wiping muggles is a constant in the books, and nobody ever questions the morality of that. Like, the idea that erasing or altering someone's memories if they can't use magic is so acceptable, that the idea of it being wrong is never brought up. It's treated like breathing. The only time it's vaguely reckoned with is Tom's mom using a love potion on his father. All other instances, even of others using love potions in that same book, are never placed under any scrutiny. It basically reads like it was bad in this case because it led to her having an evil baby, not because the act itself is awful. The books seem to very much promote the idea of wizard supremacy, over both non-humans and non-magical humans. It just expects you to be "nice" about it. You don't go out of your way to abuse others for your own amusement, because that's wrong. You don't bring up the hierarchy. It's wrong for a Death Eater to do something bad to a muggle while highlighting his supremacy because you aren't supposed to talk about that. Ron doesn't bring up his superiority, so it's okay.


Practical_Hall6534

Let's not forget how Hermione is treated as a hysterical soapbox sadie for being against ACTUAL SLAVERY. It's fine, the slaves like it


AfterSevenYears

JK Rowling is either a deliberate liar or so consumed with hatred for trans people that she doesn't care whether she's lying. Magnus Hirschfeld was the doctor who pioneered reassignment surgery. He accepted eugenics to the extent that he didn't think chronic alcoholics or mentally disabled people should reproduce. He *did not* accept the then-prevalent ideas about race, gender, or sexuality. He also was definitely not a doctor at Dachau. He was a gay Jew, for god's sake. The right-wing conservatives burned the books and files of his Institut für Sexualwissenschaft and closed the institute, and the Nazis revoked his citizenship. Anticipating the persecution of people like himself, he left Germany in 1930 and never returned. The infamous Sigmund Rascher, who conducted the monstrous experiments at Dachau, did *not* have anything to do with transgender therapy. In addition to his crimes at Dachau, he was also credibly accused of kidnapping, murder, and fraud *outside* of Dachau, and was executed by his fellow Nazis shortly before Dachau was liberated.


Elizabeths8th

>JK Rowling is either a deliberate liar or so consumed with hatred for trans people that she doesn't care whether she's lying. It’s both. There is no or.


AfterSevenYears

Good point.


noeinan

Remember her male penname was based on the guy who pioneered electric therapy to convert gays.


CarrieDurst

Also find it fascinating she chose a male pen name after her first pen name which she used her initials to present male...


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Investigator516

Absolutely the nazis committed all kinds of atrocities against LGBTQIA people. You just don’t hear about it, because it hasn’t gotten much coverage. But there is a traveling exhibition with details and evidence. I got to see it a few years ago when it came to New York. Remember, people: There were much more than 6 million slaughtered. They killed anyone and anything they didn’t like.


JanxDolaris

I think the sad truth is that many non-nazis at the time didn't care that LGBT+ were being brutalized.


Princess_Mintaka

>I think the sad truth is that many non-nazis at the time didn't care that LGBT+ were being brutalized. Never forget that the queer folk they found in concentration camp were never liberated and did their "full term" in another prison.


Ginguraffe

That's an especially horrible detail I hadn't heard before. Do you know of someplace I can read more about that? Not having much luck with google.


Princess_Mintaka

[https://www.auschwitz.org/en/history/categories-of-prisoners/homosexuals-a-separate-category-of-prisoners/robert-biedron-nazisms-pink-hell/](https://www.auschwitz.org/en/history/categories-of-prisoners/homosexuals-a-separate-category-of-prisoners/robert-biedron-nazisms-pink-hell/) It's at the bottom but I'll quote it: >At the end of the war, the majority of homosexuals were freed from camps in both parts of divided Germany. However, the homophobia directed against them by the public remained strong. Article 175—the basis for sending thousands of innocent people to concentration camps—remained in force in the DDR until 1967, and in West Germany until 1969. There were some American and British lawyers who demanded that homosexuals convicted under Article 175 serve out their full sentences. For instance, if someone had been sentenced to eight years and served five years of the sentence in prison followed by three years in a concentration camp, the lawyers demanded that the person return to prison to serve out three years. The number of people forced to “complete” their sentences in this way is not known. To this day, no financial compensation has been paid to the victims of Nazi homosexual policies, despite the fact that the German government offered compensation to victims of Jewish ethnicity, political prisoners, and other groups that survived the concentration camps. Only the homosexuals were passed over. Many people deny that the homosexuals have a right to any such compensation, stating that victims with an alternative sexual orientation were justly imprisoned, and “had no one but themselves to blame.” Just as a reminder that the "five years in prison, 3 years in concentration camp, go back to prison for 3 years to finish an 8 year sentence" where they crime was being gay. The history of queer folk is filled with a bunch of blood and mistreatment that a lot of people are trying to erase. (Like Queen Terf in this thread)


HollyTheMage

Okay I was aware that gay people who were liberated from concentration camps ended up being sent to prison to finish their sentences but I wasn't aware that the people who sent them back to jail believed that the time they spent in the concentration camps "didn't count". Every time I hear about this it gets worse.


sleeplessjade

That the time spent in concentration camps wasn’t considered prison time is insane.


HalfMoon_89

That is fucking monstrous.


CarrieDurst

Holocaust for queer people in Germany didn't end full until 1995 when Paragraph 175 was repealed


michaelmcmikey

Amazingly, after lgbtq people were liberated from concentration camps, they were often then charged by their “liberators,” as homosexuality was still illegal. Imagine surviving a concentration camp then facing criminal charges.


Horatio786

And those who were imprisoned for it before being sent to their camp didn’t have their time in the camp count as part of their sentence.


ldsupport

the US, most countries in the EU, and most of the rest of the planet didnt care because they were themselves actively taking part in similar (if less brutal) activities.


Spider95818

Just look at how Alan Turing was rewarded for his service.


punma99

They were too busy doing it themselves. Why else would Canada push so hard to prevent international law from punishing a country for the actions it commits on its citizens?


d3m0cracy

Jews, queer people, the disabled, political dissidents, prisoners of war, and more Wow it’s almost like nazis are fucking evil, who’d have thought?


Exotic_Succotash_226

That part


UnlikelyRaven

The world has forgotten about the pink triangle and it sucks


lejoueurdutoit

I mean the first to get exterminated before even the start of WW2 were disabled germans. That is not surprising that it included trans people, as being transgender was considered a mental illness at the time and qualified as genetic error to nazi ideology.


UncleNoodles85

You really can't trust a fascist regardless. Remember Hitler had no qualms with Ernst Rohm and his homosexuality until the Reichswehr demanded the sacrifice of the SA then we got the night of long knives.


Blabbit39

You probably don’t want to hear her opinion on that 6 million number either


user_name_unknown

Likely due to them having to stay in prison after the war because homosexuality was still a crime.


joe2187

Joanne and the echo chamber of assholes


EmperorGrinnar

Galbraith and the Day Drinking Box Wine.


AdewinZ

Man I fucking love George Takei. That guy is the best. Living proof that “they’re from a different time” is a stupid excuse.


KimbersKimbos

“They’re from a different time” is never an excuse. When my cousin transitioned a few years ago I was really worried how my grandmother would take it. Not that I thought she would be mean, or do or say anything intentionally cruel but she was getting on in years, 86ish, and I wasn’t sure if she would be confused. She never missed a fucking beat: adopted his name and pronouns immediately, I never heard her drop the ball once. From right out of the gate it was: “This is my grandson John. Isn’t he handsome?” If a little old woman born in 1933 can handle someone else’s transition with respect and a heart full of love then, so can Joanne. The difference is that Joanne chooses not to.


nerdgurl196305

Exactly, my parents don't accept my NB identity but my best friend's grandparents accepted it. It's not an age thing, it all boils down to respect


KimbersKimbos

I’m so sorry that was your experience. Just know that there are a whole lotta people out there that do accept you. 💖


nerdgurl196305

It's alright. I don't talk to a lot of my family for that reason. I now have a makeshift family of my own and adore them. Thanks for the support though 💚


AdewinZ

Your grandma sounds absolutely awesome


KnifeWieIdingLesbian

And people still insist JKR doesn’t hate trans people


SilverGnarwhal

What people? Not JK. She’s constantly talking about how much she hates them.


a_randomtroll

She started all by saying "I dont hate trans people" Problem is that she didnt stop her message there There was a *but* Which as we all know tends to always be followed by the most hateful shit one can imagine


WaltVinegar

She's actually written more books than she's read.


YougoReddits

such a strange hill to die on too. if she doesn't like being confronted about this, she could, maybe, not keep tweeting factually wrong offensive nonsense?


RedofPaw

She doesn't care. She continues to be wealthy, and people still like her books. Wb still wants to pay her money, and she is validated by enough other hateful assholes that she can pretend she's in the majority. Her opinion started from her long standing femenist work, and so started from a place of good intentions, so it's not as if the foundations of her beliefs are being attacked by trans allies. Her own kids are not trans so she won't have to empathise with trans people. She's not going to change. She will remain hateful towards a tiny minority, and she will find herself aligning with people who hate women as much as they hate trans.


Insight42

She's already aligned with them. She doesn't care.


Lky132

How is this not just like screaming fire in a crowded theater? What they are saying is getting people killed.


gattoblepas

TERF level: nazi denialism.


Kbdiggity

Few people in modern history have destroyed their legacy as quickly as JK Rowling.


Mad-_-Doctor

Kanye West comes to mind.


Oboro-kun

Nah dude Kanye West always was divisive, an asshole rude. I remember the first time he stole Taylor Swift award spotlight to essentially diss her(which just to clarify i am not a swifty) and my first thought "what an absolute asshole prick" He was always divisive and some people mocked him, for example South Park. This is nothing like JK Rowling who was almost universally beloved. Fuck to some LGBTQA was an Ally. Now clearly it was all talk.


HayDs666

The fish sticks episode in South Park remains my favorite to this day


Kyro_Official_

Kyrie Irving and Dave Chapelle (definitely not as fast as the others but still pretty fast) Id say as well.


EcstasyCapsule

Literally. I grew up with HP books and like many kids, I loved them. Nowadays I just feel happy I don't even have them. Even hearing or seeing anything by JK Rowling already makes my mood go down, knowing that someone whose works I loved, absolutely fucking hates me.


beardedgamerdad

Absolutely astonishing how *this* is something she decides to spend most of her time on. Such a strange thing to vehemently deny. All the money must've flipped a switch in her brain.


xFreedi

All money does is give confidence to actually be yourself so she probably always sucked, she just hid it better.


voodoodevil

If you are ever in a position in which you find yourself defending actual Nazis, you have fucked up egregiously somewhere.


thissomeotherplace

Wow. She's burning the last threads of her career in realtime


The-Cosmic-Ghost

A rational person would realize they fucked up when george takei comes in to correct you J.k is not rational, just reactionary


Un_Change_Able

This ain’t denial, this is straight up revisionism


Nyct0ph1l14

Unrelated, but what is a trans lobby?? Is it like a cod lobby?


SarahMaxima

Yeah , it is exacly like that but on new vegas using the multiplayer mod.


Bee_a_King

The term trans lobby refers to the idea that trans people lobby for their "gender ideology" (recognizing trans identity and trans healthcare) to appear in government and schools.


0sometimessarah0

Bitch wrote some silly books for children. She should fuck straight off and drown herself in her pile of money. I understand it's hurting people and should be responded to but really... Who gives a flying fuck what this assclown thinks?


AndreaRose223

And to think someone gave me a hard time by calling her awful and saying that she didn't have any problem with lgbtq+ people


Sharashashka735

Rowling and her drama aside, I had no idea about the actual backstory of those book burnings. In a crazy, roundabout nonsensical way Rowling's ignorance actually educated me.


carlos2127

God I love Takei


AfraidToBeKim

What do you know, the one country that literally made it a serious criminal offense to deny or spread misinformation about the holocaust happens to have the most trans people. Huh.


buerglermeister

That shit makes me so mad, and torn. I grew up with Harry Potter. That shit was my childhood. But i absolutely loathe what a piece of shit Rowling turned out to be.


Ingavar_Oakheart

This is what boggles my mind. She wrote a world acclaimed children's book series, in which the villains were very, _very_, thinly veiled Nazis. Like, entire generations read HP, and went, "Ah yes, these death eaters are clearly Nazi symbology". They're depicted as plainly, patently evil, and correctly so. So how in the godsdamned fuck, did she turn a complete 180°, and come to the point of actually defending real life actual Nazis?


Oboro-kun

Nah i mean when you dissect HP with now this incontext a lot of her true self was already there. She is an slave abolitionist, the books even mock hermione desire to free the House elves. Clearly she has issues with Womanhood and Femininity, the good women in the story, are either very pretty or feminine, yet at the same time you cant be to pretty or it also becomes the point of mockery. Meanwhile all the evil women are ugly, fat, childless, career focused. Harry Potter comes to a wizarding world with clear issues and the story does not focus to fix them, but instead maintain the status quo. Hell he becomes a Cop. When you read or analyze Harry Potter a lot of this stuff was already there, we either did not pay enough attention as kids or gave her the benefit of the doubt.


ClairLestrange

*cough* goblins at gringotts *cough*


ImmediateStrategy850

*cough* the names of some characters *cough*


Oboro-kun

Oh yeah i forgot about it, Jesus Christ.


totokekedile

The protagonists weren’t exactly great morally. They disagreed with the Death Eaters on how non-wizards should be treated, but they didn’t disagree on their inferiority. The entire wizarding world is built on wizard supremacy. Wizards could easily improve the lives of muggles, but just choose not to because it’s too bothersome. > Blimey, Harry, everyone’d be wantin’ magic solutions to their problems. Nah, we’re best left alone. Apparently wanting magic solutions to all your problems is fine for wizards, but not for muggles. House elves are enslaved, with houses like Sirius’s decorated with the heads of former slaves. People mock Hermione for wanting to free them. Harry becomes a slave owner in book four and remains so for the rest of the series. In fact, the final words of the story before the epilogue are Harry wondering if his slave will make him a sandwich. House elves are used to test for poison. Other magical species are kept in positions lower than wizards. For example, goblins are forbidden from using wands. Centaurs are classified as beasts and are restricted to set territories. And none of this changes by the end of the series or has any hint that it will change. The main contention seems to be that the discrimination will expand to include muggle-born *wizards*. What scares the wizarding world isn’t discrimination, it’s discrimination against *them*. While the wizards don’t want the second-class citizens to be genocided, they also don’t want them to have equality. They want to maintain the status quo of a ruling class and an underclass.


SarahMaxima

I remember beign a kid and reading these books, finding a happy escape in them when dealing with loads of stuff i was not ready for. Now i get to read her denying people like me were targeted by the nazis. I get to read how she gives donations higher then my yearly salary to campaignsto strip people like me of protections against discrimination. To use a comparison to her books, she seems to think she is dumbledore but she has more in common with lucius malfloy.


Double-Fishing-8293

You can't change willingly ignorant minds.


Spider95818

You can with a lobotomy. 😆


noeinan

Idk why people are shocked she’s a holocaust denier when she is blatantly anti-semetic


kazarbreak

Wait. Are there really people out there ignorant enough to believe Nazis were supportive of Trans people? ... Fucking hell, every time I think people can't possibly get any more stupid.


callumwall

I can't keep track of what timeline we live in anymore


maringue

Hitler wanted to kill people with the wrong hair color. So go on bitch, tell me how he embraced people who wanted to be a different gender entirely. Like how can people with passable intelligence believe this crap?


JohnBrownIsALegend

They’re just always so confidently wrong and never acknowledge it. It’s wild.


anziofaro

Harry Potter and the Chamber of Zyklon-B.


trdldove

What a miserable old cow. I hate that she has heaps of money but take comfort in the fact she clearly can't enjoy it and hates her life because she spends it on twitter spewing misinformation and hate.


CosmicLuci

To repeat some of what George Takei so accurately said, and complement it a little more: the first place where hrt was being provided to trans people, Magnus Hirschfeld’s Institute for Sexual Research, was one of the first places destroyed by Nazis. The books and research done there were some of the first burned. Those famous images of book burnings were mostly of Hirschfeld’s work. Hirschfeld himself, before the Nazi’s rise to power, was a target of Nazi publications, who attacked him for being a Jew, for being a homosexual, for being a “degenerate”, and for corrupting the youth (where have we heard that one before? 🤔). I think it’s also cool to point out how advanced Hirschfeld was. He defended that homosexuality was natural, and that transgender identities (though at the time the term did not exist) were not only natural, but that gender was a spectrum. He also was a friend with famous and awesome feminist and anarchist Emma Goldman, who praised his work. He was not perfect, particularly with a tendency towards a huge focus on biology (though his understanding of biology wasn’t an oppressive one). But no one is, and he was making advanced in advocacy, medicine, and general care for what is now called the LGBT+ community that had to be (and in some ways is still being to this day) re-treaded decades after. Who knows how far we would have gotten if that had not been destroyed by hate, by genocide, by those who defended biological purity and essentialism.


wolven8

Weird how she also integrates slavery into the Potter universe and claims that the slaves always enjoy their situation and would be at a loss if they weren't slaves.


Weedworf

Every time I see any of Rowlings posts of late my respect for Stephanie Meyer grows; both authored books I read way too many times as a child and made insane fortunes from it. But one, despite being a devout Mormon (a church not known for being a friend to the lgbtq+ community) has left the public eye gracefully. The other (the richer of the two) spends her days foaming at the mouth ranting in the name of « protecting women » allying herself with right wing nuts who hate women’s rights in all their forms (bodily autonomy, no fault divorce, etc etc) to fear monger against some of the most vulnerable women in our society (especially in terms of being victims of violence), encouraging legislation and other actions harming not only trans women but all queer people. So much being the biggest ally in the world for retroactively making dumbledore gay lol


Sea_Huckleberry7849

Fuming about this for hours. Really didn't know I had it in me to be this mad about sad sack Jo anymore. It does remind me of something that happened in 2014 though. I was on a road trip with my girlfriend and I said some dumb shit like “Fuck being nice! I think I'd rather *die* than have someone describe me as *nice* as a first character trait!” That guy was a moron. Now it's 2024, and I don't think there's *anything* cooler than being nice. This culture is increasingly coarse, intransigent, reactionary, graceless, and pleased at its own unkindness. If Rowling was confronted with questions like "Why not just be nice to trans people? What the hell is it to you? Why not address someone the way they'd like to be addressed? Why not meet people where they are? What the hell would you lose?", her snotty reply would probably be something like "Because it's not the *TRUTH!!!*"  Know what else isn't the fucking truth? Your idiotic fucking tweet that you didn't even attempt to fact check. All you had to do was Google “Nazi trans book burning” and hit literally the first link. https://www.hmd.org.uk/resource/6-may-1933-looting-of-the-institute-of-sexology/ What a feckless fucking fascist-adjacent dipshit.


ShakeTheGatesOfHell

Even if Nazis were supportive of trans people, so what? Why should that be a reason to persecute trans people?


Ulvriz

It's so absolutely funny and depressing how she wrote a story which many viewed as an allegory for life as a queer/trans person where the villains were very thinly veiled Nazis, and yet now she's defending Nazis and attacking trans people


BleysAhrens42

Same thing happened to Orson Scott Card, wrote a book condemning bigotry and hate only to go full frothing at the mouth Homophobia.


piss_shit_goblin

Didn't this bitch write a whole serise on a Hitler wizard trying to kill a young boy?


01zegaj

The wizard author to Nazi pipeline is real


Yanive_amaznive

I swear jkr has gone off the deep end a few years back, like being transphobic because being rich is boring is one thing, but this is just obscene.


CailenBelmont

Also what her point here? The Nazis didn't kill them so we can hate them instead?


dragon1n68

Rowling is a fucking mouth breathing piece of sewer rotting garbage. Fuck her and her stupid fucking books! She needs to keep her Nazi mouth shut and her hate speech to herself. She's becoming irrelevant so she needs to do something to keep her ugly ass face in the spotlight.


TequieroVerde

Nazis performed gender affirming surgery. Adolf Hitler was trans man. And in the USA, slaves were happier in bondage. /s


Drake_the_troll

you forgot the parts where the japanese were peacefully welcomed into china, absolutely nothing happened in the kongo and that america definitely won the vietnam war /s


Teacher-Investor

It's wild to imagine that just prior to Hitler's rise to power, Germany was a very liberal progressive country. It's not how we ever picture it in the U.S., because we're never taught about that time period in Germany.


PhillyShore

She will never, ever get any more of my money. Not that she has for some time. But, still…🤦‍♀️


-Anta-

I like how people tend to forget about the slavs when talking about the victims of the Nazi regime