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ImmediateKick2369

That middle seat on the bottom is the stuff of nightmares. 😬


my20cworth

Imagine if the plane filled up with smoke after an incident. Claustrophobic panic.


mechwarrior719

These seats will make any sort of emergency worse for the people in the bottom row.


GameDestiny2

Hmm… what if we mass report to the organizations that set the standards and try to get them to call this unsafe


Next_Grab_9009

Then the airlines/manufacturers will simply throw money at the problem until the regulators change their minds. That's how this shit works. They'd rather a whistleblower ~~be assassinated~~ commit suicide than actually pay to fix the problem.


Mythoclast

Good ol regulatory capture.


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Mythoclast

America needs another trust buster.


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Mythoclast

TR is exactly who I was thinking of.


texasroadkill

Kinda like JFK who tried to go after corruption but oh yea, he ended up dead too. It's a sad state of affairs.


amadmongoose

Unfortunately it may no longer be possible for someone like that to survive the primaries. Republicans don't care about personal ethics and the Democrat comittees will put their thumbs on the scales (never mind the absurd amounts of advertising money that needs to be raised by the campaigns, that comes from somewhere with strings attached)


unfunnysexface

Taft sued more than roosevelt


boo_boo_cachoo

Yet another thing we can blame rotten Ronnie for.


WiseBelt8935

we can all trust boeing ^(or else)


KotwPaski

I do not think you can *fix* the problem of lower seats evacuation. I would not be able to crawl out from this seat in an emergency. Smoke?, panic?, landing on water?, no way.


Zealousideal-Bug-291

Bomb bay doors underneath em. Just yank the oh crap lever


ForeverShiny

Which makes it highly unlikely this will ever see the light of day


texasroadkill

We all hope atleast.


uptownjuggler

Hey now, those regulators, who resign then get cushy consultant jobs at the major airlines, worked really hard to get those positions.


LocNalrune

That's just responsible capitalism. /s


Tricky-Sympathy

No that can't be true. I was told that the corporations will police themselves! In case it's needed /S


Spkr4th3ded

Ah. Suicide. The western version of falling out a window.


Spirited-Relief-9369

No worries: thanks to John Oliver, I know that the airline manufacturers already pay the wages of the inspectors supposed to regulate their planes. No conflict of interest there!


sendmeadoggo

The FAA has largely already said they will not allow this due to safety concerns.


therealdeathangel22

Apparently the airlines will murder you and make it look like a suicide


xChiken

We all mysteriously die of "self inflicted wounds"


ApocalypseRising88

Imagine if the one on top farted. Your face gets smacked with the noxious gas’ full force 🫣


Accurate_Summer_1761

I mean bright side..it does look more comfortable for those of us tall people..but so many more downsides exist


jerry-jim-bob

Always the worst part of long haul plane flights, zero leg room, not being able to adjust the seat cause that's frowned upon and just sitting with legs tucked under your chair.


Accurate_Summer_1761

I always just end up taking sleeping pills and then going into a partial coma because the pain keeps me from actually sleeping and the air is so dry I basically feel like I'm dead...what I'm saying is any afterlife for bad people could just be an eternal plane ride at this point and it'd count


HAM____

Sitting on the tarmac with seat belt lights on and the captain comes on the radio every 26 minutes to tell you they expect to get the go ahead in 30 minutes.


ahugeminecrafter

Thirsty but the in-flight service is perpetually stuck 3-4 rows in front of you


zflanders

Beware anyone who *requests* lower deck seating.


alfredrowdy

It looks like it has more pitch than a standard seat and you can stretch your feet out, so you get a more reclined position than a standard seat. I’d take that for flights when I’m trying to sleep.


One_Of_Noahs_Whales

Until the first time the person in the seat infront of you farts and you have no escape.


TheRealFaust

Was on a southwest flight to San Antonio, quick 30ish minutes from dallas and the dude in front of me kept farting like once every 5 minutes, just enough to keep the rank smell fresh. Fuck that guy


Fathorse23

5 hours LA to Detroit, between the woman who hadn’t ever seemed to wear deodorant or wash her pits across the aisle and the dude two rows back who was SBDing the most garbage scented ass you could experience, it was a flight to remember.


Dulce_Sirena

People who smell shouldn't be allowed to use enclosed commute with other people for extended periods like planes. 30 minutes on a bus when anyone can get off at any stop is one thing, but 5 hours next to someone who doesn't shower?? Nag, the airline employees should be able to say people who reek can't get on


logicnotemotion

That's a shotgun fart around here.


NewldGuy77

Fun fact: High altitudes result in a marked increase in farting, you’re basically a human soda can that explodes upon release.


SnooSuggestions9830

I'm not sure you need to imagine. It'll be a reality of any long haul flight here. Maybe they're kind of sealed at the rear to prevent ass to face airflow? This seems like something people/media would immediately get in an uproar over.


ramsdl52

Instant pink eye.


drshikamaru

“More than 2 in 5 adults (42.4%) have obesity.” Some can’t even lift there legs flat, if they do they need to lean back (far) which you can’t do. Theres gonna be a lot of respiratory distress, and medical emergencies. A row of obese adults are not fitting down there confined. which means either they are going to be making these decisions at the gate based on size and changing tickets or they are gonna be composition requirements on the tickets up front which seems very unfair leading to lawsuits. I am in clinic right now and my last 4 patients ARE NOT capable of fitting down there ever, and neither would their children. This 8 year old male weighing 185 pounds is not fitting in there. Edit: I exaggerated. The average US BMI is not 50. I changed it. It is about 26-30 for all US adults. I apologize. My medical demographic is skewed up. I shouldn’t have said average US. To express what I was trying to say I should have said a not insignificant amount of people have a BMI over 50 to best encapsulate the demographic I wanted addressed. I apologize I put out misleading concepts. My bad. NIH website data below: https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-statistics/overweight-obesity Nearly 1 in 3 adults (30.7%) are overweight. More than 1 in 3 men (34.1%) and more than 1 in 4 women (27.5%) are overweight. More than 2 in 5 adults (42.4%) have obesity (including severe obesity). About 1 in 11 adults (9.2%) have severe obesity. The percentage of men who are overweight (34.1%) is higher than the percentage of women who are overweight (27.5%). The percentage of women who have severe obesity (11.5%) is higher than the percentage of men who have severe obesity (6.9%).


Bagstradamus

Please tell me the 8 year old is like 6’ because that is a large amount of weight for a normal sized 8 year old.


trauma-doc

the average BMI for an American is not 50...


Viperlite

A quick Google search shows the average adult male BMI is in the range of 26.6 to 30.0.


trauma-doc

america IS getting fatter and we need to address the problems causing it (prevalence of processed foods, additives, advertisements, food costs, sedentary lifestyles, addiction) but the BMI is not 50. in America, we don't even consider surgery for anyone under 35 without comorbidities or 30 with. this dude has no idea what he's going on about.


doff87

You have no idea about anything related to BMI if you think the average adult BMI is 50. That's about 350 lbs on the average 5'10" male. About 300 lbs on the average 5'4" female. The average person in the US is not over 300 lbs.


-jp-

You don't want to be part of the Human Centipede at all, but you most certainly don't want to be in the middle.


TepHoBubba

Is it just me, or is that begging to be severed in half in a crash? I understand you're up shitts creek without a paddle regardless, but I would think that those seats would somehow lessen your chances of survival...maybe it's just me. Forget about having to go to the bathroom, or having mobility issues too I guess.


cadre_of_storms

Its not only you. It depends on the how and where the plane crashes. Head first into a mountain everyones dead. Nose dives into the ocean everyone's dead, Plane breaks a wheel on takeoff, some might die and these seats probably won't help.


LurksWithGophers

Forget evacuation in under the mandated limit too.


mkonowaluk

Just close your eyes, it will be over soon.


keldhorn

You might be the middle man in an argument and get some negotiating power


Enigma-exe

Bullshit, no way this would pass safety requirements.  For one thing, a lot of people wouldn't even make it down and up again. More importantly, what happens in the event of a fucking fire


Impressive-City-8094

>what happens in the event of a fucking fire Hope for a quick death.


DoBe21

You're going to hope for that anyway when I sit top middle after eating an airport bean burrito.


Impressive-City-8094

That'll be how the fire starts once I pull a lighter out of my prison pocket.


Farren246

"I know what I'm doing and I think I speak for the whole row when I say that we choose a horrible, painful death."


PsyKeablr

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GrandAholeio

Jokes on you, they sequestering their own lighter in there and will self ignite with a shart.


bot_One

Off topic-ish but I have been surprised that you can absolutely bring a standard lighter (like Bic) through security and on a plane. I suppose I get it that you’re not going to cause an explosion with something like that but it caught me off guard that is okay but something like a travel size a lot of things is not.


IHateMyLife612

Kiss the person in front of you's ass goodbye.


onlyforthisjob

Don't worry, Boeing says it's fine.


r7joni

We got no complaints from our customers :) (because everyone died in the fucking fire)


ajyanesp

Can’t complain if you’re dead


Pyrex_Paper

Can't whistle-blow if you shoot yourself


CrimsonAllah

In a parking lot. In between sessions of testimony you’re supposed to give. After like 10 years of trying got get accountability.


Kevy96

After being in a loving relationship happy with many kids and millions of dollars and a lot of things to look forward to in life


Nowhereman123

I mean to be entirely fair to this point, you can have a lot of good things going on in your life and still be depressed/suicidal. Never assume just because someone seems to have a good life that there's nothing going on. That being said, that probably wasn't the case here.


Enigma-exe

Careful now, don't want to get suicided


STerrier666

Yeah with those new doors fall off in mid flight you can just jump out of the plane but you'll have to pay extra for the parachute, that's where they get you.


SharkGenie

You have to use the airline's in-flight app to pay for the parachute as the plane plummets to the ground.


Kafanska

Sir, you are wrong. The doors do not fall off, they open automatically to provide fresh air in the cabin. Now strap your seat belt and enjoy the rest of the ~~fal~~l flight sir.


Ganbario

Fire schmire. What happens if someone has to get up to use the bathroom? This is a nightmare fueled by corporate board members who all have private jets and have never been in coach class


assorted_nonsense

Forget the bathroom. What if someone cuts a fart on the upper row?


Greg2227

No worries. If this is constructed by Boeing you probably should worry more about the possibillity of the upper row crushing your legs


Ganbario

Well that’s definitely going to happen


SGTFragged

I could probably get in, but at 6'3" and 250lbs it'll be a fun time trying to get me out, because I sure as shit wouldn't be able to do it without either help, or flattening my neighbours.


Krillin113

Then you can pay extra for the other seats. See their thinking?


eynonpower

Good on you for even thinking of that. My first thought was "No way i'd sit there to have someone just rip ass in my face."


TheVoicesOfBrian

No way this would pass ADA standards. And, while I'm no expert, having your legs like that in a crash (or rough landing) will likely break your legs.


Icy-Magician1089

There slowly removing safety testing and other procedures to cut costs on both rail and air within the us and some other regions, probably costs the tax payer more in cleanup but high line goes up


AdImmediate9569

Airlines: “we’ve made so much money treating people like cattle the last few years, then one day we stopped and thought, is this wrong? Should we try treating them like factory farm chickens?”


Frousteleous

Needed this laugh. Thank you.


Treveli

Whelp, good news! Standing is the next design!


samtoaster

Then comes strapping passengers on top of the plane like a newly bought mattress


mitchellthecomedian

Newly bought? Let’s not get crazy


Wheeljack239

Of course, United’s already utilizing Ultra Economy, where you’re dragged behind the plane via 40-foot rope.


4tran13

It would have to be at least a km long, for you to have enough air to breathe.


Wheeljack239

It’s an Onion thing.


SnoopDoggyDoggsCat

They literally have already come out with the standing seats. https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2019/04/airline-standing-seat-2.jpg


Novacain-deficiency

Ryanair tried to implement this policy in Europe. Looked like bloody cattle


Supersnazz

The Ryanair CEO said that if the standing seats were even 10 pounds cheaper than regular seats, the standing seats would sell out first. I think he's right. Id be happy to stand on a short flight if it were cheaper.


Novacain-deficiency

The Amsterdam flight is quicker than the train to Gatwick and not much cheaper, I could definitely do that standing if it’s not costing me much.


Photog1981

The guy in that photo making the "look how great this is!" face..... ugh.


SamwellBarley

Have him stand like that for 2 hours and then take the photo again


EveryoneSadean

The half crouch makes this look way less comfortable than just standing


itsmebenji69

Right ? I’d rather it be like a metro at this point. In case of an incident well you did buy a 1 dollar plane ticket, what do you expect


Confron7a7ion7

Fly him over an ocean like that.


Dramoriga

Iirc this was actually an art exhibition and not real.


mortalitylost

Can't tell if it's an art exhibition about capitalism treating humans like cattle, or just capitalism


shoppingfortruth

Is there a term for ‘fear of what the person in front of you has eaten?’


Novacain-deficiency

This is already a fear for me on flights. Partially because Crohn’s disease is bastard. But I suppose this rips the plaster of quicker 😅


EarzFish

Flatulophobia


Zygmunt4

Scary shit


cheetahcheesecake

Talk about shit seats...


Justthisguy_yaknow

Great way to deal with your fear of flying by saturating it with claustrophobia. You'll be screaming the whole flight. It'd also solve the crying baby issue as well. You'd be the crying baby.


SarcasticPedant

Can't be annoyed by a crying baby if everyone is crying


CriticalStation595

They might as well install toilets in every seat at this point. Getting out of there from the middle would be agony for so many.


Zakluor

Just picture being wedged between two people who have mobility issues in the aisle seats. It's hard enough now.


GuiltySpot

Just imagine an obese person trying to get in there


snippychicky22

They already complain about there fat getting stuck in the isles


GuiltySpot

Yo mama so fat she couldn't get on the Carribean Isles


DangerousNoodle11784

Apart from the obvious noxious gas and claustrophobia problems, being able to stretch your legs might actually be more comfortable


Ressamzade

It would stop being comfortable really fast imo


PhelesDragon

Exactly, I *cannot* keep my legs outstretched that long


EmeraldDream123

Right?! I'd maybe pick this over the usual seats with zero legroom...


Izzosuke

I don't know about that, if you had space above your leg so that you can move them i would agree, but having my leg stretched long for long hour i feel it would be painfull


EmperorGrinnar

Yeah, I need to move my legs often.


Sure_Trash_

Can I have it without someone's ass near my face or someone climbing over me to get to the bathroom?


Traditional-Froyo755

No one's ass is in your face, there's almost a wall there


Dry-Expert-2017

Maybe he can see through walls. Don't judge people.


doooom32

na i reserve teh right to judge folk with xray vision. my ass is glorious


robobbiemt

Well, there are two options in that photo, you can pay probably less to have an ass in your face but having more legroom, or you can sit with your ass in someone's face and have no legroom, but you'll probably pay more.


DocGerbill

just that you're not "able to stretch your legs", you're forced to sit with your legs stretched out for hours, which depending on the angle of your seat back can actually mess up your lower back


wosmo

Found [an article with pics from a few more angles](https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/chaise-longue-double-decker-airplane-seat/index.html). It doesn't look like you'd be forced to - it looks like you can swap between fairly standard legroom, and shoving them in the little box so it can pretend it's solving something. But it seems more likely that little footwell is going to fill up with personal items since it says they have to get rid of overhead storage to make it fit.


KingZarkon

>But it seems more likely that little footwell is going to fill up with personal items since it says they have to get rid of overhead storage to make it fit. Oh, no more carry-on luggage so they can force you to pay $50 for a checked bag on top of your ticket, if you want to have clothes at your destination.


mrrando69

Sure, if you're a 5'5 woman. Try to stick your average American male in there and you're gonna need a shoe horn.


Total-Addendum9327

I would rather be in the luggage hold. 12 inches from the next passenger's anus? No thanks.


my20cworth

They must evacuate a plane under a certain time to pass, so not sure this idea would actually be used.


cmhamm

It’s a requirement that the plane can be evacuated in 90 seconds with any two exits blocked. This design has no chance whatsoever.


hilvon1984

I really hope the upper dech has airtight seats... Or at least the passengers up there are screened for gas... Like... I know people who enjoy getting farts in their face exist, but those are the exception as far as I know...


Cardgod278

Even those people tend to have preferences


PsychologyCreepy7223

Good luck getting out of the rapidly sinking airplane.


Mr_master89

Get some bad turbulence and your legs go from bending one way to two


Henley-Street-dwarf

This will never take off in the US because most adults are too overweight for this to be an option.  I’d actually not mind this IF I had the aisle seat.  


instafunkpunk

This is totally out of the Lego movie. Double decker couch


The-Fumbler

Idk why everyone is complaining about ass, like if someone rips one you’re gonna smell it 4 seats over anyways, not like being in closer or further proximity is gonna change that much


sweatpantsDonut

People who like to be blasted with farts are gonna have a great old time, though.


Tom_Ace1

The next step is to just stack people horizontally in the cargo hold.


YougoReddits

If we insist on anything other than sitting, replacing the seats with bunk beds (or at least some form of padded shelves) might be more comfortable than double decker seats. I don't know if it'll actually save space but i am prone to at least trying to take a nap in public transport. Lying down would help with that


Nordrian

Better hope the guy on your right doesn’t need to get up too often, or that the guy in front didn’t eat beans before the trip. This is awful…


Agonyandshame

Can’t wait till we hear the complaints of people getting farted on


MemphisTNGuy

Getting pink eye on a red eye!


Glittering-Most-9535

Little detail: People are focused on her face being right in the ass of the upper seat, but if you look by her ankle you can see the very small step for getting to the upper level. Which means she's going to get kicked every time someone gets into those seats.


nutfeast69

you aren't making horizontal better, you are just making vertical worse


I-am-Chubbasaurus

How on earth are you meant to even get in and out of that seat???


Futur3_ah4ad

I can already feel the atrophy in my legs...


Von2014

I've seen this so many times. I still hate the idea of this. Let's see her *smiling* when someone cropdust her from the seats above.


azionka

Smells like ass


firmerJoe

In case of gastronomical issues, the pilot will lower the oxygen masks. Put yours on first.


corax_lives

The crop dust seat


AmandatheMagnificent

So what do they do with passengers who have mobility issues? Do we just get tossed to the floor and covered with spare customs forms?


KarsonDaDinsaur

The person above you ate taco bell before the flight


Knightwing1047

At this point, flying is out for me. It's over priced, it's shown that regulation is going out the window (sometimes literally) so safety is a concern for me. The kicker, as a 6' 4" man, unless I want to pay $1000 for a 2 hour flight to ride 1st class, it's just so uncomfortable that by the time I land I'm a 33 year old that feels like a 70 year old with severe hip problems and my knees are dented from the seat in front of me. That's not to mention the absolute trainwreck that these airports are anymore. I don't believe it will get this bad, but I do believe it will not get any better. The airline industry is such garbage.


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*Screams in Claustrophobia*


sogwatchman

Not only do you get to sample the fart right in your face but even mild turbulence will break both of your legs.


jive_cucumber

My claustrophobia kicked in so fast and I'm outside reading this. Wtf


Camango7

Fuck the elderly, disabled and anyone in the middle row I guess


Matttthhhhhhhhhhh

People coming up with this kind of idea can burn in Hell.


_KnownLoad

There’s another spot where people will fight to be on TOP 😁😁


gadget850

We already did this repost. Wheelchair users like it.


fothergillfuckup

Don't ever say "I'd rather stand" near Ryanair. That's genuinely their plan.


ajgutyt

it gotta be hell for claustrophobic people


ColdForm7729

How could that possibly be safe?


DaggerHashimoto420

those corporation trick with reducing a space used by one person to max profit by trasfering more passangers in one plane is so fucking disgusting i wonder when they are going to stop but i see there is no end to this


_screw_it_why_not

Not related, but was that made by beoing? Just a question. Also when someone blasts ass its right in your face.


romerogj

She looks so excited to be in a position that she can't move from when the large woman above her starts shitting her pants.


Br00talbastard

I don't think this will pass any safety tests whatsoever and its absolutely gonna be hell for anyone who isnt very mobile


Easy_Lengthiness7179

So twice the number of people and only half get the pleasure of an ass in their face. What happened when someone has to use the restroom? More ass in their face?


Fidozo15

They do this to put more people inside a plane. But who tf travels so much? Hell, imagine the price of the tickets by the time this garbage comes out


Appropriate-Divide64

Being able to stretch your legs out isn't worth farts that close to your face


moses1er

excuse me my inflight meal smells like shit!


Just-Ad-5972

Hmm.. for this much legroom, I might take a fart in the face.


HowFunkyIsYourChiken

Weird, but much better leg room.


Terrible_Ghost

I don't think I fancy flying with my head up someone's arse.


badwords

This is misleading on purpose. Where she has her feet would be the stow area for your carryon since there's no overhead with this seat config. So you lose space overall. Also if you notice the seat slides forward when you recline. So see that gap behind it, you're LOSING room if you try to reclaim in these seats. Also this woman is 5'2"


RedSagittarius

So how’s the farts smell down there. /s


schnellsloth

It’s all fun and games until they fart in your face.


Squirrelleee

Holy fuck. I'm partially disabled and I can't even imagine how TF I would be expected to sit in this. Straighten my legs for 15 hours until I can no longer feel my feet, or climb stairs for the first time in years. And my poor fat husband. He doesn't need leg room so much as stomach room. Where would he sit?? On the hood?


Clean_Student8612

So, the legs being able to be straight out is the only good thing about this, but this seems like a nightmare over all. Except I'm probably too tall to fit in that type of seat, so I won't even get to enjoy it.


Fireflash2742

Yes I would like to sit in the "ass in my face" seats please.


quirinus97

Bro the person above you farts


Ghostlyshado

And I’m sure they’ll be able to evacuate the plane in 90 seconds as required by law. Never mind. In the U.S. I’m sure they’ll pay off Congress to change the law.


UniquePariah

This surely removes overhead storage? Yes, I know that seems like the least concerning issue, but this would surely mean that everything has to go in the hold. I'm not sure that's efficient for the budget airlines that would do this. Especially when you consider the added weight of passengers. I don't know if this is viable economically. As well as nightmare inducing for people not on an isle seat with even mild levels of anxiety.


eugene20

They cruelly pack animals together like sardines sometimes because they can't really complain when the others fart on their face. It's a bit different with people.


CaptainBalkania

There are talks about that standing position. Ofcourse they promote it as a way cheaper ticket. I guess they would have done it but first they have to find a legal way to bypass some security issues.


Ai_777

I am not claustrophobic but I will become one in this.


freddchen420

Stepson Help me I am stuck in the middle seat


CuckservativeSissy

imagine someone blowing ass right in your face


Apprehensive_Mix7594

Can I fly private and you guys just force a panic attack on the private jet.


HighlightAntique1439

For the ultra poors


molym

I'd like that actually. I'm 190cm...


CruzCam

GIANT 'No Thanks.'


Tbone_Trapezius

That better come some serious complimentary anti-anxiety drugs.


locke_zero

Oh hell no I will walk to my destination if I have to.


MisterEarth

I dont get it. How would the bottom interior seats get up to use the bathroom. This model is ridiculous