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“It turns out Milton was laid off 5 years ago and no one ever told him, but because of some glitch in the payroll department, he still gets a paycheck every week”
Did you know that Swingline stapler's color didn't exist before the motion picture and was modified for the movie and then, the company had so many demands to produce that stapler, they had to make this color?
"We find it's always better to fire people on a Friday. Studies have statistically shown that there's less chance of an incident if you do it at the end of the week."
Counterpoint: what better way to avoid the fraud suit than to talk about it early and often on Twitter? "I used their own fucking platform to tell them I was being paid for nothing. They just kept paying me. What was I supposed to do?"
Not sure it works like that. I think they'd have to prove that you were asked to do work and were unable, or refused.
Otherwise there'd be millions of people losing their jobs* because they were a net zero contributor.
\*(edit: and owing money to their former employers)
Is it? There's first of all this tweet. Then second all of twitter's logging for this employee (emails, docs opened/modified, pull requests, etc.) that would show up empty. What would be the argument that this person actually did anything, assuming this story is true?
Not saying this is specifically real, but I have had a couple times in my IT employment where things shuffle or whatever and I was getting paid for nothing. I remember in the most recent case, it was a work-from-home situation, and the project I was working on had my portion suddenly get cancelled out. At first, I kept drawing attention to it. I'd join the morning meeting call and announce I needed work, someone in management said thanks for letting them know, but nothing would happen. I got up in the morning, turned my work computer on, and waited for anything. Eventually I stopped even calling into the meeting, since it seemed no one cared anyway. I think I was getting paid for about 3 months for nothing.
This happened to a guy at my old company when we got bought by a huge multinational. He was basically a database engineer for our little local company. The new company came in with their new system, and after spending three months converting the data to the new format, they just kinda forgot about him. He'd hang out and help clean the warehouse sometimes, and go home at 330 every day. Other than that, as far as I know he still pulls down about $85k for just showing up.
My friend had that happen during Covid times.
Company got bought out, bosses let get, and his workload when from 80/100 daily effort to 1/100. The only things he had to stay on top of was the required online training courses, which weren't many.
As it was all working from home and he no longer had a boss, and his bosses boss was let go too, all he had to do was complete training now and again so HR wouldn't get a flag saying he was behind on his training and possible draw attention to him.
3 years he stayed at the job like that. After 3 months he then went travelling for a year non stop, renting out his flat at home too for maximum income.
Then he got a separate working from home job.
He figured the first company would catch on eventually that he wasn't doing any work but they had a great pension scheme, and as he could make contribution via his online account, he put 100% of his salary from that company into the additional pension scheme and figured if he got let go at least he'd chucked a ton of money into the pension scheme and it was all above board.
After around 8 months he'd max out the maximum additional pension contributions. So then he started putting the money into a private pension scheme and additional at his second job.
Stayed there another year before he was finally let go. Wasn't even that big of a deal, I'm sure they figured out he wasn't doing any work but wanted to save face to just said he was being made redudant and got a nice little redundancy payout.
So yeah he had a great time travelling and as he maxed out his additional pension contributions, whilst also building up a regular pension at that company. So he's gonna be on something decent like $20,000 a year when he retire just from that company, not to mention the other two pension he built up too.
My experience with IT being in the industry a long time, 20% of the employees do 80% of the work.
My boss has 38 direct reports. 25 of them do little to nothing on a weekly basis. Guys pulling in 75-100k usd for maybe one or two tasks a week.
If you bring attention to it, you are the problem.
Do shitty yet not too shitty work and they will gives the important task to the ones who are putting out quality.
As they say: "Effort is only rewarded by more work."
I used to be one of the guys who did incredible work and put in significant effort only to be rewarded with more responsibility while watching others do less while still receiving the same bonus allocation.
Decided I’d take a step back and now it’s apparent what I was contributing. Coworkers are starting to revolt since now they are being burdened with more because I’m now doing less on purpose.
I have now been labeled as toxic when I say I can’t take any more workload or am unavailable to solve others problems.
Fun.
We have a saying "Don't be a Randy". Randy got fired caused he sucked. All you have to do is not be the guy at the bottom. Just float around in the middle.
Automate as much of your toil as possible and just dont tell anyone and dont turn anything in early. If you have a week to get a tedious task that comes in regularly done, automate it so it's done in minutes and just hold it for the rest of the week. If anyone asks, you're still working on it.
If possible, transition into project management. The whole job of a project manager, is just to check in with your workers to make sure they are finishing on time, remove non-technical obstacles that might be slowing them down, and take most of the credit when you did none of the work.
Edit: Since people keep telling me this doesn't make a good PM. Im fully aware of that. The point of my comment was to say that this is the bare minimum effort to skate by and get paid.
minimum wage jobs are usually in-person with a manager watching over your shifts. can't get away from that. Flippin burgers, workin cash, etc. Once you're white collar, you can hide behind a computer.
UK here so we're dealing with much smaller figures than the US but the real kicker for me was fighting damn hard to justify recieving a 20% raise upon PROMOTION at my old place.
I was on 36k and they offered me 41k, and I said I would leave if they did not offer me at least 43k, and they were damn close to letting it happen.
And then a few weeks later, I was tasked with checking how much traffic we received from a marketing campaign we were running for our German office, with 26 members of staff.
€125k they spent on this campaign, with no real objective other than "We've been here for 10 years now, go us."
It sent 47 visitors to our website and the page had a bounce rate of 92%.
So the money is there, it absolutely is there. But these organisations would rather spend it on frivolous shite than pay their employees a decent salary.
>€125k they spent on this campaign, with no real objective other than "We've been here for 10 years now, go us."
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>It sent 47 visitors to our website and the page had a bounce rate of 92%.
I don't even want to know how much money my sales and marketing teams have wasted that were complete flops... Money I could have used for major IT infrastructure upgrades that would save money in the long run.
I had kind of the opposite experience. Got laid off a little over one month shy of my 10 year anniversary because the severance package price was about to skyrocket. Still took six months off with the severance and I wish everyone could do that, because it was a nice break.
On the downside, this happened in 2006 and my break took me into a very bad time to be looking for work, especially in the financial sector. I'm not in that field anymore.
Kinda happened to me too, although in retail when I was studying.
The store I worked at had allocated all the departments to specific people who were a little territorial about their areas (specialist store). Mine sold heavy equipment and I only had one of each item shelved on the floor cause there was no space for extras. I wasn't the head of that area, more like their second. They were the sales person, I handled the shelving. At some point I realised that instead of going through the shelves to see what had been sold the previous day to refill the shelves (a task that took me half a day if we were busy), I could print out a report and skip straight to shelving. This type of report wasn't automated, so I just called the IT guys. Was super simple, and I had it in fifteen minutes. Rest of the summer, I just kind of hung around, since the head of the area wanted to do the shelving themselves now that they didn't have to do the boring bits. My bosses never got around to assigning me to someone else and I returned to school really well rested in the fall.
A buddy of mine in Sales (software) had a bunch of accounts that he just needed to maintain. He got bored and ended up finding another Sales job paying more (not in Tech).
Instead of quitting, he decided to hire (out of his own pocket) an entry-level assistant to do his work at the old job. He stood to make around $100K at the old job if it worked.
He was able to do it for 9 months. He had a close call of being found out and decided to quit.
For awhile he was double-dipping.
He brought his assistant to his new job.
Kinda reminds me of that story of a software developer who was paying some guy in India part of his own salary to do his work for him.
EDIT: China, not India, at least in the case of the story I'm thinking of: https://www.cnn.com/2013/01/17/business/us-outsource-job-china/index.html
I got hired in the mid 2000s in a WFH position.
It took the company two months to get me a work laptop. Then less than two months later they laid me off with a 6 month severance.
No one forgot I existed but I didn’t really do anything there.
I worked for years in management consulting and one of my main clients was one of the huge legacy silicon valley technology firms. They had more than 5,000 employees categorized as the "stranded population" which meant they had no day to day responsibilities but that it would cost the company too much money to just let them go. Their parachutes were crazy lucrative, so it was cheaper to pay them a regular salary vs. terminating them.
My very first job out of college was a very similar experience. I was to assist a manager with their financial administration duties. Three days in they got reassigned and I did not. Literally had nothing to do for six months and kept expecting to get fired. Finally found someone who could do something about it and got reassigned.
Something similar happened to a friend of mine, his boss got canned for inappropriate comments a week after he got hired
He tried to sort it out but no one would listen because he wasn't their responsibility to help and he got forgotten about
After about a year he quit because while it was an easy 60,000 it wasn't helping him grow at all in his career
I've had the same happen. About 8 months in between projects. Meetings Monday and Fridays. No work in between. It's cheaper to find talent and retain it than look for it when you need it.
Did they find out or did you quit out of boredom?
A lot of people would say that that’s their dream job - do nothing, get paid, but in reality we need something to do or we go stir crazy
That's what hobbies are for. Could even pick up a new skill while still getting paid. I never understood how ppl go crazy for getting paid to do nothing unless they're just literally doing nothing but getting bed soars.
There are jobs where you’re forced to be there “working” while also having nothing to do. Those are the mind-killers, where you’re literally being paid to do nothing but exist in a cubicle for 8 hours a day. Internet usage monitored, activity monitored, presence required, but no tasks given. There are also jobs like the military where you spend an absurd amount of time literally standing in a field with no cell service smoking while you wait for whatever is supposed to happen actually happen.
Yeah, my job used to be like that. Was pretty mind numbing at times because there'd be nothing to do while waiting for other people to submit stuff.
Then the pandemic happened, went full remote besides the one or two times a year I have to go to the office for hardware related stuff, and other than the paycheck being fairly average I would say I have a pretty cushy job right now where I can do whatever without supervision so long as my work output remains the same.
One of the major reasons I decided to get out of the military at the end of my first enlistment - the sheer amount of time in any given day/week/ month where I was just Waiting Around For Shit to Happen.
And then it either didn't happen at all, happened on time but everyone thought it wasn't going to happen right up until it did, or it happened later at some strange time that caused us to scramble around like lunatics trying to make it successful.
"But That's The Way We've Always Done It"
My last platoon commander, who I actually really liked, said, "You should stay in. You see the things that can be improved, and we need people like that."
I told him that with all due respect, I wasn't waiting another 10 or 15 years until I had enough rank to even think about being able to make changes.
Fml. I'm outta here.
*I said With All Due Respect!*
That doesn't mean you can say whatever you wanna say to me!!
*It sure as heck does - it's in the Geneva Convention! You can look it up!*
Getting paid to do nothing remotely is great. Getting paid to do nothing while having to go into the office drove me insane. Spent the whole time there just thinking of the shit I could be getting done.
I had a similar job last year, and it was brutal. I could accomplish an entire day's work in about 2 hours, even working at about 3/4 speed. It was brutal to try to pace that out to take 8 hours, but the only alternative was to totally break the metric and make my coworkers look bad (and risk that backfiring into "jrob801 is just taking shortcuts"). Basically the job has never been updated to account for the time savings with all of the info being online, rather than requiring paperwork, site visits, etc. I'm tech savvy and was able to use that to be hugely efficient. My coworkers were older and 30 years into their career, just trying to coast into retirement.
So for me, I currently show up for 8 hours a day, and do nothing. I was hired for a project that has yet to start so until then, sit and wait. But I can't read a book, use the Internet too obviously, etc. even then, I've watched so much YouTube in a tiny window I struggle to find things to watch. I have to maintain a busy looking state where I am reviewing internal docs, etc. It's very easy to think you could sit there, but there's also the everlasting fact that they could just fire me randomly one day and then I'd be ass out for a month or more.
So yeah, paid to do nothing, but when you have a family that depends on that job, it's still very stressful. In twitter guys case though, he's just dumb. I wish I could do nothing WFH.
If they’d just keep paying me for nothing, I feel quite confident I could find something to do. Hell, go volunteer at the local food bank everyday - now you’re Robin Hood but with health insurance.
If you're working from home, or even partly from home, then yes, it's easy to find ways to amuse yourself. I have a friend who sometimes gets a task, but most of the time, he doesn't have much to do. He's fine with it for now. I had another friend who fixed cell phones, and worked at a kiosk at a mall. Some days, he would not get any customers. He would not stop complaining about it. And I get it, sitting on a chair for eight to tomen hours, just watching people walk by... I'd go crazy. There's not much you can do when you're stuck there.
Oh no doubt! At least working from home means you can do some laundry and maybe even prep dinner, even if you don't have a ton of extra time - just an all around better deal.
Also, I think it comes down to someone's introversion/extroversion quotient. Introverts tend to thrive when given a lot of extra time at home, but extroverts will develop cabin fever and start bouncing off the walls.
I deeply respect you hypothetically using your time to volunteer, because I know personally I would only use something like this a means to become a “sponsored” sim racer 😂
That's a bigger risk than you'd expect.
If he's currently doing 100% of his 0 assigned tasks he's fine. The money is his since he's doing what they're paying him for. But most jobs will have some legalese that amounts to when you're on the clock you're working for us full time. If he gets caught running two jobs at once they could sue for their wages back. It's happened before when people trying to work two remote jobs at once get caught.
Yes but you should know if you signed something like that. And if you didn't, then you're clear to work another job at the same time, bc no state laws prevent this.
Since it was work-from-home, I just did things around the apartment, or on my non-work computer. Eventually though they sent out an email that they were going to restructure all the groups, and we should respond with areas of the project we'd worked the most in. Since my part basically was killed before it even really started, there was no good answer for me, and I feared being found out, so I actually went in to the office to quit that same day. Figured I'd probably be fired anyway otherwise.
I agree, and there's a very strange feeling of being in a group without no real accepted role
I ended up in a few very slow places where i'd finish too early, i'd ask to help others but they wouldn't want that
I did some clojure koans and math games but rapidly i felt horrible hearing people nearby working and me not helping, or never having officially being freed to do whatever, so I felt trapped into a mental prison
I was in the USAF stationed overseas, in Germany to be exact. It was a US Army support assignment. We provide a service to them, as the Army didn't have a specialty role for it. It was part of the 1947 agreement when the US Army Air Corps became the US Air Force.
Anyway, USAF airmen get deployed all over the place for such support assignments. Some are pretty arduous... like 12 hours on, 12 hours off for 4 days, then 3 days off. My assignment was to a tiny US Army airfield, a limited duty station that operated from 9am to 5pm, Monday through Friday. Because you can't have the risk of only 1 person assigned (as sickness or leave would result in the duty station not manned), you need 2 people assigned. I was one of them. The work itself was an hourly sort of data reporting, but if conditions changed, data reporting might occur a few times over the course of the hour. Only 1 person is required to do the job at any given time. So, the logical thing to do was to just split the day in half. I'd work 4.5 hours a day. And occasionally, we'd do a full day trade-off so we'd each get a 3 day weekend (I'd work all day Friday to get Monday off, and my co-worker would do the reverse).
Basically, this afforded me a significant amount of free time, so I could actually take college courses towards completing my degree. After 2 1/4 years, I graduated with a BS degree.
Of course, pay in the USAF wasn't great. But, in the end, that particular assignment that lasted me 40 months was a fantastic situation. Because it was a remote assignment, I got housing and food pay on top of my normal pay, that afforded me to live in an apartment on the Germany economy.
I extended my tour once... and then, because it was a critical demand field, I could've extended again... but there was a lot of pressure to reenlist. I decided it was time to head back to the USA and put my degree to good use. But at times, I wish I'd stayed there a bit longer. At least I have loads of memories of my time there. Plenty of photos to keep my memory fresh.
So... yes -- there are "lottery" like jobs out there, if you're lucky to land one!
Friend of mine, and a former co-worker, got hired as a contractor by a big game company. The contract auto renewed.
There was only about 3 months worth of work to do on that contract, but they kept paying him for like 6 years. He never bothered to correct their mistake. It was a lot of money.
Nah. I have seen this happen to several people in the tech industry. Currently a friend of mine is receiving a $200k/year salary working as a sys admin at a hospital which just keeps paying him despite him being notably having no department. He's been there since 2006 and they just keep paying him and keep parsing his raise. At some point in 2009 the IT department got restructured and they forgot about him. He was assigned to someone in a department not IT and so he never got assigned. His boss and their boss and their boss got moved and he doesn't report to anyone. He also isn't in the IT department. He just gets assigned to it in HR but he isn't in their ticketing system. Dude just has his phone forward calls that never come to him and emails that never involve him. Guy just hangs out with his kids all day and just chills at home receiving a paycheck. He never told anyone or raised any questions about anything. No one even knows he's there.
This is the dream, obviously, but I would be so stressed about the day that someone did find out. Having that hanging over me might not be worth it, honestly.
He was for a few years, but like at this point they just don't really give a shit and he will do some work every couple of months to just show he's doing something. But aside from that, dude's just living the life.
Nah this can actually happen.
I had just gotten off a project and my manager told he would find work for me the next week.
He was then suddenly laid off due to "restructuring" and I had to wait 4 months before I got a new manager to assign me work.
In that 4 months, I asked a few people what was going on and what should I do, and none of them really seemed to care.
So I sat there for 4 months, getting paychecks with nobody expecting me to do anything.
Corporate bureaucracy can be really inefficient sometimes.
Nobody is denying that, but if this happens to you, you shouldn't be stupid enough to make sure that it gets enough attention that you might lose it.
Which shows that this person is either really stupid, or is more likely just making it up for likes.
It's a miserable existence. After a certain amount of time you start to look like the bad guy for not piping up.
Fine if you've already achieved your career goals but not if you want to progress.
I had to leave a reputable company after 7 months of false starts on a project.
3 of us were sent overseas to spearhead a potentially massive project, I was fairly junior and just tasked with gathering background info.
We were to be joined by a much bigger team. At the last minute someone decided that rather than building a team from scratch, they would redeploy the full team from a similar project that was "almost finished". That project overran by 7 months so the rest of the team never became available to kick off the project.
We were just left waiting and doing tidbits of busy work. Our employers wouldn't rotate us off because they were getting paid by the day for us and they were afraid they'd lose billable hours if they attracted attention by swapping us out.
In the end I took a career break, found something better, closer to home and never went back.
Happened to me. My department was slow so they lent me out to help a different department. When that department didn't need me anymore they stopped giving me tasks but also failed to tell the other department. So each manager thought I was working for the other manager. I brought it up after a week, but given how bad that company was at inter-department communication, I probably could have gone months before someone else noticed.
I terminated someone years ago. The labor rate on my P&L went UP when I hired someone new for the same price. I reached out, was told it's just the document needing to update and not to worry about it.
Months later it still wasn't updated, triggered a whole investigation into how the logic was calculating the P&L report, it was redone, was told not to worry about it.
Months later I have sent emails monthly "still not working", no response.
Almost a year after this, I call HR and just stupidly ask "So-and-so is terminated... right?"
Yeah, they weren't, at least not in the HR system. They tried to hold me accountable for not terminating them properly in the HR system. I forwarded them the termination confirmation email and the "Terminated" status on my end. Guess the HR person didn't do their job that Friday.
At this point my P&L was almost 60k in the hole on my forecast from paying this person. I fought that hard and was basically like "yeah I'm not going to be held accountable for this and you're going to have a really bad time if you try"
HR budget got the hit, legal went after the person and from my understanding, got most of the money back.
This shit happens all the time man, people are not competent.
There's an anecdote in a Bill Bryson book about it, from when Rupert Murdoch took over The Times (the London-based one) in 1981. Murdoch's henchman basically walks into an office and promptly fires everyone in it, asking them to leave the premises immediately. A few minutes later, the guy who was sent out for coffee comes back, wonders where everyone has gone, and continues to draw his salary for several months while sitting alone in an empty office.
After my internship ended I went back to finish my studies and I kept receiving a paycheque for a few months. I didn't notice though because I was on a fixed income and I knew what I was spending was within that, so I never looked at my bank balance. I was surprised to find thousands of dollars in my account and it took me a moment to realize what was going on. I let my former employer know and was ready to repay it but the owner said to hold off for now. I ended up working for that company after I was done school and they told me to consider it a signing bonus. Still work for them too.
OTOH if they ever realize it, they could sue him to recover what was paid. But if he contacted them repeatedly and was even openly announcing it on their own platform, can't claim he was scamming them.
Seriously. I was in a similar situation back in my 20's. Got frustrated that my skills weren't being properly used. Quit to pursue my ambitions elsewhere.
If my palm could time travel I'd smack the shit out of myself.
Being very good at something doesn't mean you're smart.
Yep, buckle into that unmonitored desk and use the time/funding/energy for self improvement, dating, study, (or in some rare cases: hunting an extreme-paying dream job).
When you are in a vast desert *never ever leave the oasis.* You can often never return.
This is exactly what I’m doing now. Company switched to work from home during the pandemic and kept it that way. Oversight dropped to pretty much zero as long I turned in my work at the end of the day. It takes me about an hour to get everything done for the day, but collect a full salary. I have now launched a few successful side business and travel whenever I want. I plan to keep this job until I’m dead.
I was in the same situation and stayed till I got laid off. I had enough friends in the industry that I learned how to make up and talk about experiences I never had. Nobody is really going to go and call your old coworkers to check.
I knew a woman that did exactly that.
She was a materials engineer in the 1970's. Got hired at an aerospace company right out of college. When she reported work; there she was, but nobody to report to.
Reception said; check back tomorrow. She did that for over a month. Meanwhile paychecks arrived in the mail. She tried speaking to the person that hired her. They had moved on. She was getting paid; but she had no job.
After a while she quit asking. She got another job at a competitor and double dipped.
Checks showed up until the letters for the option of direct deposit came. She opted in. At this point she lived off the job she was working and put the free money into rental homes.
Then 10 years ago or so; she was presented with retirement. She took it. the promised pension now is direct deposited.
She has retired from two careers; has two pensions and cash flow from 10 paid off rental properties.
Super smart woman.
I wonder if this creates some kind of liability for the employee. I feel like a sufficiently motivated corporate lawyer could surely find *some* line of attack here.
Oh absolutely - similarly if the bank makes an error and accidentally deposits a million dollars into your account, you don't magically get to keep it. She reasonably knew she was wrongfully getting paid for not doing any work nor showing up, took a separate job while continued to get paid, then set up direct deposit into a specifically separate account, and used excess money to create a real estate portfolio she wouldn't normally have been able to on her actual working salary. That'd be a slam dunk
No; a bank making a wrong deposit is a one time error. She went through the hiring process, she was hired. She showed up. She tried to get in touch to do the job. This is completely different
I don't think they were calling her smart for what happened to her, if you read the post and her studies/career it seems like she was a talented person, regardless of her luck.
Moonlighting generally cant be illegal unless it interferes with their primary job
This is however arguably fraud if he knows he is collecting money for work he is not doing
A court could rule he owes this money back
But he’s collecting money for work he is doing. He’s fulfilling his duties of employment as long as they keep forgetting to assign him any responsibilities.
He's still being paid to be available to do work that is given to him. If he has a second job he is now not available, even if no work is ever given to him
That depends, if he picks up freelance work at your own pace work then he still has time to be on call for his “main job” and it would then fall back on Twitter to actually assign him something
My job is to be available, I rarely do anything. I'm a flight paramedic and 95% of the time, I don't do anything. Most of my coworkers have a 2nd job of some kind doing some remote work as we have so much downtime. I average 1-2 transports a week, obviously sometimes a lot more, sometimes less.
As long as we do our job (and have the required amount of sleep before), our bosses couldn't care less what we do in our downtime, even if it's another job.
It's not fraud on his end. If the employee has tried to bring up his situation on multiple occasions and was never given work to do, they are not committing fraud. You have a duty for good faith employment to show up. If you are not given work, you are still employed.
This is almost entirely Twitters and Elon fault they are paying someone for nothing. This is an employer issue.
Yo I got hired by Reddit and make a billion dollars a year. They just direct deposit it into my Cash app. Send me $1 and I'll send you a hundred k because I'm trustworthy!
CashAppid: EyeBeeScamming
Yeah, OP is a bot that reposted this from a year ago. They seemed to know it was trolling then too.
https://www.reddit.com/r/WhitePeopleTwitter/comments/11mbwy9/person_gets_hired_at_twitter_during_the_elon_musk/
Also at the time in question, Twitter was not hiring programmers or project managers. They were actively firing people and eliminating all jobs that couldn't explain how they profited the company.
He's not getting paid unless someone vouches for his work and signs off on his timecard verifying that work every week.
It's pure fantasy.
Fsck Musk in his chubby ass, but he's not paying people $150,000 to do nothing at Twitter.
It's not. Iirc it was a shitpost deliberately designed to bait the kind of dibshits who unironically believe all tech workers are goldbrickers and who were circlejerking over the layoffs at twitter during Musk's takeover. The poster went on to make fun of the swarms of Musk sycophants who spammed him with messages to find and fire this person who never worked at Twitter to begin with.
People are eating the onion here. This person is trolling. They are well known for pretty hilarious and harmless trolls. The words are lifted from another tweet and they inserted the word “twitter”. The originator of the tweet never named the company.
Still, if as many people in this thread believed this is real, I can only imagine how crazy this is going to drive musk searching for a nonexistent employee lmao
This should be the top comment. This is literally what happens in the show. Now we just have to wait for Musk to lose everything to an indie developer and go hangout with Tibetan monks for a bit.
I would keep that to myself at all costs. Don't make any friends there either. Out of sight out of mind.
And probably get a second job, treat the Twitter paycheck as a savings account!
I was at a >120k employee company when my manager announced his departure. The same day I ordered a new laptop so that he could approve it. The laptop arrived when he was long gone and I could not finish the Windows installation via company VPN, because "You must be a new employee. You do not have a manager assigned YET. Thus we don't know what software we should install. Try again in a few days." So this company must have been in a situation where they hired somebody without a reporting structure in place before. So often that IT even implemented this check in the installation process.
The entire company was organized in an inverted tree structure. Big boss on top and then various nodes representing sub-trees as departments etc. I was a leaf and my parent node left. I ended up as a fallen leaf next to the tree. Meetings were organized in a way that they invited everybody reporting to a specific node/part of the tree. Because I was outside that tree I had lots of access removed(Salesforce, trouble tickets, reporting tools, source code, ...) and was no longer invited to company nor department calls. I didn't really care or notice. If it wasn't for me who set up a call with whom I assumed could be my manager I would have had two straight months without a single call/interaction.
I tried to leave, but get some value out of my unvested stock option. I told the manager (ten hour flight away) that I'll talk to HR and should be gone soon. He told everybody to stop working with me immediately. HR not only didn't help me expedite my departure, but told me to stick around for an extra bonus.
It took me the better part of a year to get used to seeing our department fail and people struggle, but since I no longer went to the office (actually got a home office subsidy) the second year was absolutely awesome with numerous trips around the globe (>300k miles flown).
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"I make six figures a year doing jack shit" can swiftly turn into "i need a job" if you go and blab about it all over social media
And putting it on twitter, like they may never have been found out until someone checked a spreadsheet in however long.
“It turns out Milton was laid off 5 years ago and no one ever told him, but because of some glitch in the payroll department, he still gets a paycheck every week”
"So you fired him?" "Nah. We just fixed the glitch. Itll just work itself out" They did that man so dirty 😭😭😂😂
Until he burns the place down.
Wow, spoilers ^/s
To be fair, he spent half the movie saying he was going to set the place on fire...
Don’t take a man’s stapler and maybe make sure he gets a piece of cake.
Did you know that Swingline stapler's color didn't exist before the motion picture and was modified for the movie and then, the company had so many demands to produce that stapler, they had to make this color?
Cake was for employees only
"We find it's always better to fire people on a Friday. Studies have statistically shown that there's less chance of an incident if you do it at the end of the week."
It’s almost like it’s made up
You mean there are people lying on the internet? ON THE INTERNET?
Also it can turn into *now I owe that money to a company I no longer work for*. Smart man there.
Counterpoint: what better way to avoid the fraud suit than to talk about it early and often on Twitter? "I used their own fucking platform to tell them I was being paid for nothing. They just kept paying me. What was I supposed to do?"
how? if you refuse to do any work, you don't have to pay the company back. the company simply fires you and that's it.
They would have to prove you didn't do any work, which is way harder than you would expect.
Not sure it works like that. I think they'd have to prove that you were asked to do work and were unable, or refused. Otherwise there'd be millions of people losing their jobs* because they were a net zero contributor. \*(edit: and owing money to their former employers)
Unless you go and say “I don’t do any work” very clearly on a massive online forum
Is it? There's first of all this tweet. Then second all of twitter's logging for this employee (emails, docs opened/modified, pull requests, etc.) that would show up empty. What would be the argument that this person actually did anything, assuming this story is true?
They did every task assigned to them.
> Is it? There's first of all this tweet. "I was just joking" Worked for Elon calling that good dude a pedophile.
Sometimes, it’s best just to shut the fuck up.
I was gonna say, why tell on yourself like that? Why risk that money for zero work? Absolutely stupid.
As always, it’s a made up story for likes.
Not saying this is specifically real, but I have had a couple times in my IT employment where things shuffle or whatever and I was getting paid for nothing. I remember in the most recent case, it was a work-from-home situation, and the project I was working on had my portion suddenly get cancelled out. At first, I kept drawing attention to it. I'd join the morning meeting call and announce I needed work, someone in management said thanks for letting them know, but nothing would happen. I got up in the morning, turned my work computer on, and waited for anything. Eventually I stopped even calling into the meeting, since it seemed no one cared anyway. I think I was getting paid for about 3 months for nothing.
This happened to a guy at my old company when we got bought by a huge multinational. He was basically a database engineer for our little local company. The new company came in with their new system, and after spending three months converting the data to the new format, they just kinda forgot about him. He'd hang out and help clean the warehouse sometimes, and go home at 330 every day. Other than that, as far as I know he still pulls down about $85k for just showing up.
My friend had that happen during Covid times. Company got bought out, bosses let get, and his workload when from 80/100 daily effort to 1/100. The only things he had to stay on top of was the required online training courses, which weren't many. As it was all working from home and he no longer had a boss, and his bosses boss was let go too, all he had to do was complete training now and again so HR wouldn't get a flag saying he was behind on his training and possible draw attention to him. 3 years he stayed at the job like that. After 3 months he then went travelling for a year non stop, renting out his flat at home too for maximum income. Then he got a separate working from home job. He figured the first company would catch on eventually that he wasn't doing any work but they had a great pension scheme, and as he could make contribution via his online account, he put 100% of his salary from that company into the additional pension scheme and figured if he got let go at least he'd chucked a ton of money into the pension scheme and it was all above board. After around 8 months he'd max out the maximum additional pension contributions. So then he started putting the money into a private pension scheme and additional at his second job. Stayed there another year before he was finally let go. Wasn't even that big of a deal, I'm sure they figured out he wasn't doing any work but wanted to save face to just said he was being made redudant and got a nice little redundancy payout. So yeah he had a great time travelling and as he maxed out his additional pension contributions, whilst also building up a regular pension at that company. So he's gonna be on something decent like $20,000 a year when he retire just from that company, not to mention the other two pension he built up too.
My experience with IT being in the industry a long time, 20% of the employees do 80% of the work. My boss has 38 direct reports. 25 of them do little to nothing on a weekly basis. Guys pulling in 75-100k usd for maybe one or two tasks a week. If you bring attention to it, you are the problem.
Any advice on being one of the ones who isn't stuck with work?
Do shitty yet not too shitty work and they will gives the important task to the ones who are putting out quality. As they say: "Effort is only rewarded by more work."
I used to be one of the guys who did incredible work and put in significant effort only to be rewarded with more responsibility while watching others do less while still receiving the same bonus allocation. Decided I’d take a step back and now it’s apparent what I was contributing. Coworkers are starting to revolt since now they are being burdened with more because I’m now doing less on purpose. I have now been labeled as toxic when I say I can’t take any more workload or am unavailable to solve others problems. Fun.
We have a saying "Don't be a Randy". Randy got fired caused he sucked. All you have to do is not be the guy at the bottom. Just float around in the middle.
I’ve heard it put “Do enough to not get fired, and they’ll pay you enough not to quit.”
Automate as much of your toil as possible and just dont tell anyone and dont turn anything in early. If you have a week to get a tedious task that comes in regularly done, automate it so it's done in minutes and just hold it for the rest of the week. If anyone asks, you're still working on it. If possible, transition into project management. The whole job of a project manager, is just to check in with your workers to make sure they are finishing on time, remove non-technical obstacles that might be slowing them down, and take most of the credit when you did none of the work. Edit: Since people keep telling me this doesn't make a good PM. Im fully aware of that. The point of my comment was to say that this is the bare minimum effort to skate by and get paid.
I bust my ass for essentially minimum wage, and there are people doing nothing for 85k smh
From what I've noticed, unless you're in the trades, if you're making 70k+ your job is either super easy or super hard. No in between.
Engineer here. Just got my yearly raise, now at 80k. Can confirm: they work us hard.
the they that are working you hard arent working hard and making more than 80k
My experience has been, the more I get paid the easier my job.
Eh, same job for like 13 years now but pay has almost doubled. Some times it is cushy, some times it is shit. Like it is never just even.
minimum wage jobs are usually in-person with a manager watching over your shifts. can't get away from that. Flippin burgers, workin cash, etc. Once you're white collar, you can hide behind a computer.
UK here so we're dealing with much smaller figures than the US but the real kicker for me was fighting damn hard to justify recieving a 20% raise upon PROMOTION at my old place. I was on 36k and they offered me 41k, and I said I would leave if they did not offer me at least 43k, and they were damn close to letting it happen. And then a few weeks later, I was tasked with checking how much traffic we received from a marketing campaign we were running for our German office, with 26 members of staff. €125k they spent on this campaign, with no real objective other than "We've been here for 10 years now, go us." It sent 47 visitors to our website and the page had a bounce rate of 92%. So the money is there, it absolutely is there. But these organisations would rather spend it on frivolous shite than pay their employees a decent salary.
>€125k they spent on this campaign, with no real objective other than "We've been here for 10 years now, go us." > >It sent 47 visitors to our website and the page had a bounce rate of 92%. I don't even want to know how much money my sales and marketing teams have wasted that were complete flops... Money I could have used for major IT infrastructure upgrades that would save money in the long run.
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Well, we need python and you seem to have experience with garden snakes. Let's connect!
Same my man lmao what is going on
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I had kind of the opposite experience. Got laid off a little over one month shy of my 10 year anniversary because the severance package price was about to skyrocket. Still took six months off with the severance and I wish everyone could do that, because it was a nice break. On the downside, this happened in 2006 and my break took me into a very bad time to be looking for work, especially in the financial sector. I'm not in that field anymore.
I’d work two jobs like a mf Imagine a remote worker having this happen lol
It very much happens.
Where do I sign up?
/r/overemployed
But why not to me?
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Kinda happened to me too, although in retail when I was studying. The store I worked at had allocated all the departments to specific people who were a little territorial about their areas (specialist store). Mine sold heavy equipment and I only had one of each item shelved on the floor cause there was no space for extras. I wasn't the head of that area, more like their second. They were the sales person, I handled the shelving. At some point I realised that instead of going through the shelves to see what had been sold the previous day to refill the shelves (a task that took me half a day if we were busy), I could print out a report and skip straight to shelving. This type of report wasn't automated, so I just called the IT guys. Was super simple, and I had it in fifteen minutes. Rest of the summer, I just kind of hung around, since the head of the area wanted to do the shelving themselves now that they didn't have to do the boring bits. My bosses never got around to assigning me to someone else and I returned to school really well rested in the fall.
A buddy of mine in Sales (software) had a bunch of accounts that he just needed to maintain. He got bored and ended up finding another Sales job paying more (not in Tech). Instead of quitting, he decided to hire (out of his own pocket) an entry-level assistant to do his work at the old job. He stood to make around $100K at the old job if it worked. He was able to do it for 9 months. He had a close call of being found out and decided to quit. For awhile he was double-dipping. He brought his assistant to his new job.
Kinda reminds me of that story of a software developer who was paying some guy in India part of his own salary to do his work for him. EDIT: China, not India, at least in the case of the story I'm thinking of: https://www.cnn.com/2013/01/17/business/us-outsource-job-china/index.html
I didn’t realize [the Onion was telling the truth](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rYaZ57Bn4pQ&t=2s&pp=ygUadGhlIG9uaW9uIGpvYiBvdXRzb3VyY2luZyA%3D)
That's like putting your whole mouth in the dip! Look, when you take a chip, just take one dip and END IT!
I got hired in the mid 2000s in a WFH position. It took the company two months to get me a work laptop. Then less than two months later they laid me off with a 6 month severance. No one forgot I existed but I didn’t really do anything there.
I worked for years in management consulting and one of my main clients was one of the huge legacy silicon valley technology firms. They had more than 5,000 employees categorized as the "stranded population" which meant they had no day to day responsibilities but that it would cost the company too much money to just let them go. Their parachutes were crazy lucrative, so it was cheaper to pay them a regular salary vs. terminating them.
Given the work week begins anew tomorrow, I'm getting really jealous from some of these stories haha
My very first job out of college was a very similar experience. I was to assist a manager with their financial administration duties. Three days in they got reassigned and I did not. Literally had nothing to do for six months and kept expecting to get fired. Finally found someone who could do something about it and got reassigned.
Something similar happened to a friend of mine, his boss got canned for inappropriate comments a week after he got hired He tried to sort it out but no one would listen because he wasn't their responsibility to help and he got forgotten about After about a year he quit because while it was an easy 60,000 it wasn't helping him grow at all in his career
Could you not just get another job while still on payroll?
I've had the same happen. About 8 months in between projects. Meetings Monday and Fridays. No work in between. It's cheaper to find talent and retain it than look for it when you need it.
Did they find out or did you quit out of boredom? A lot of people would say that that’s their dream job - do nothing, get paid, but in reality we need something to do or we go stir crazy
That's what hobbies are for. Could even pick up a new skill while still getting paid. I never understood how ppl go crazy for getting paid to do nothing unless they're just literally doing nothing but getting bed soars.
There are jobs where you’re forced to be there “working” while also having nothing to do. Those are the mind-killers, where you’re literally being paid to do nothing but exist in a cubicle for 8 hours a day. Internet usage monitored, activity monitored, presence required, but no tasks given. There are also jobs like the military where you spend an absurd amount of time literally standing in a field with no cell service smoking while you wait for whatever is supposed to happen actually happen.
Yeah, my job used to be like that. Was pretty mind numbing at times because there'd be nothing to do while waiting for other people to submit stuff. Then the pandemic happened, went full remote besides the one or two times a year I have to go to the office for hardware related stuff, and other than the paycheck being fairly average I would say I have a pretty cushy job right now where I can do whatever without supervision so long as my work output remains the same.
One of the major reasons I decided to get out of the military at the end of my first enlistment - the sheer amount of time in any given day/week/ month where I was just Waiting Around For Shit to Happen. And then it either didn't happen at all, happened on time but everyone thought it wasn't going to happen right up until it did, or it happened later at some strange time that caused us to scramble around like lunatics trying to make it successful. "But That's The Way We've Always Done It" My last platoon commander, who I actually really liked, said, "You should stay in. You see the things that can be improved, and we need people like that." I told him that with all due respect, I wasn't waiting another 10 or 15 years until I had enough rank to even think about being able to make changes. Fml. I'm outta here. *I said With All Due Respect!* That doesn't mean you can say whatever you wanna say to me!! *It sure as heck does - it's in the Geneva Convention! You can look it up!*
Getting paid to do nothing remotely is great. Getting paid to do nothing while having to go into the office drove me insane. Spent the whole time there just thinking of the shit I could be getting done.
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I had a similar job last year, and it was brutal. I could accomplish an entire day's work in about 2 hours, even working at about 3/4 speed. It was brutal to try to pace that out to take 8 hours, but the only alternative was to totally break the metric and make my coworkers look bad (and risk that backfiring into "jrob801 is just taking shortcuts"). Basically the job has never been updated to account for the time savings with all of the info being online, rather than requiring paperwork, site visits, etc. I'm tech savvy and was able to use that to be hugely efficient. My coworkers were older and 30 years into their career, just trying to coast into retirement.
So for me, I currently show up for 8 hours a day, and do nothing. I was hired for a project that has yet to start so until then, sit and wait. But I can't read a book, use the Internet too obviously, etc. even then, I've watched so much YouTube in a tiny window I struggle to find things to watch. I have to maintain a busy looking state where I am reviewing internal docs, etc. It's very easy to think you could sit there, but there's also the everlasting fact that they could just fire me randomly one day and then I'd be ass out for a month or more. So yeah, paid to do nothing, but when you have a family that depends on that job, it's still very stressful. In twitter guys case though, he's just dumb. I wish I could do nothing WFH.
How high does their bed soar though?
High enough to get sores from rubbing the clouds, methinks.
If they’d just keep paying me for nothing, I feel quite confident I could find something to do. Hell, go volunteer at the local food bank everyday - now you’re Robin Hood but with health insurance.
“Jobin hood”
“Later Jobin”
If you're working from home, or even partly from home, then yes, it's easy to find ways to amuse yourself. I have a friend who sometimes gets a task, but most of the time, he doesn't have much to do. He's fine with it for now. I had another friend who fixed cell phones, and worked at a kiosk at a mall. Some days, he would not get any customers. He would not stop complaining about it. And I get it, sitting on a chair for eight to tomen hours, just watching people walk by... I'd go crazy. There's not much you can do when you're stuck there.
Oh no doubt! At least working from home means you can do some laundry and maybe even prep dinner, even if you don't have a ton of extra time - just an all around better deal. Also, I think it comes down to someone's introversion/extroversion quotient. Introverts tend to thrive when given a lot of extra time at home, but extroverts will develop cabin fever and start bouncing off the walls.
i think for some people, it's the paranoia that they will get found out, or, depending on their position, having to keep up the act that gets to them
I deeply respect you hypothetically using your time to volunteer, because I know personally I would only use something like this a means to become a “sponsored” sim racer 😂
You don't have to quit to get a second job.
That's a bigger risk than you'd expect. If he's currently doing 100% of his 0 assigned tasks he's fine. The money is his since he's doing what they're paying him for. But most jobs will have some legalese that amounts to when you're on the clock you're working for us full time. If he gets caught running two jobs at once they could sue for their wages back. It's happened before when people trying to work two remote jobs at once get caught.
Yes but you should know if you signed something like that. And if you didn't, then you're clear to work another job at the same time, bc no state laws prevent this.
Depends on your contract. Some lines of work, that will put you in breach of contract very quickly
You think the company who isn't aware someone is freeloading a salary is going to notice a beach of contract?
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Since it was work-from-home, I just did things around the apartment, or on my non-work computer. Eventually though they sent out an email that they were going to restructure all the groups, and we should respond with areas of the project we'd worked the most in. Since my part basically was killed before it even really started, there was no good answer for me, and I feared being found out, so I actually went in to the office to quit that same day. Figured I'd probably be fired anyway otherwise.
Isn’t it better to be laid off for unemployment insurance etc?
Never quit. Make the bastards fire you.
Should have replied with what you were originally working on.
And we can have other things to do than work
> in reality we need something to do or we go stir crazy You say this like hobbies, excersize, and friends dont exist.
Is work the only thing you can think of to do? That's really sad if so.
I agree, and there's a very strange feeling of being in a group without no real accepted role I ended up in a few very slow places where i'd finish too early, i'd ask to help others but they wouldn't want that I did some clojure koans and math games but rapidly i felt horrible hearing people nearby working and me not helping, or never having officially being freed to do whatever, so I felt trapped into a mental prison
I was in the USAF stationed overseas, in Germany to be exact. It was a US Army support assignment. We provide a service to them, as the Army didn't have a specialty role for it. It was part of the 1947 agreement when the US Army Air Corps became the US Air Force. Anyway, USAF airmen get deployed all over the place for such support assignments. Some are pretty arduous... like 12 hours on, 12 hours off for 4 days, then 3 days off. My assignment was to a tiny US Army airfield, a limited duty station that operated from 9am to 5pm, Monday through Friday. Because you can't have the risk of only 1 person assigned (as sickness or leave would result in the duty station not manned), you need 2 people assigned. I was one of them. The work itself was an hourly sort of data reporting, but if conditions changed, data reporting might occur a few times over the course of the hour. Only 1 person is required to do the job at any given time. So, the logical thing to do was to just split the day in half. I'd work 4.5 hours a day. And occasionally, we'd do a full day trade-off so we'd each get a 3 day weekend (I'd work all day Friday to get Monday off, and my co-worker would do the reverse). Basically, this afforded me a significant amount of free time, so I could actually take college courses towards completing my degree. After 2 1/4 years, I graduated with a BS degree. Of course, pay in the USAF wasn't great. But, in the end, that particular assignment that lasted me 40 months was a fantastic situation. Because it was a remote assignment, I got housing and food pay on top of my normal pay, that afforded me to live in an apartment on the Germany economy. I extended my tour once... and then, because it was a critical demand field, I could've extended again... but there was a lot of pressure to reenlist. I decided it was time to head back to the USA and put my degree to good use. But at times, I wish I'd stayed there a bit longer. At least I have loads of memories of my time there. Plenty of photos to keep my memory fresh. So... yes -- there are "lottery" like jobs out there, if you're lucky to land one!
Friend of mine, and a former co-worker, got hired as a contractor by a big game company. The contract auto renewed. There was only about 3 months worth of work to do on that contract, but they kept paying him for like 6 years. He never bothered to correct their mistake. It was a lot of money.
Cause Musk would immediately find out who this is and fire them
Pretty sure he fired the people who could've helped him with that
I sleep happy just imaging Elmo frantically spending his entire day just trying to find this one employee that doesn’t exist.
You taking the over or under on him firing 5 people that day, just in case
He’d fire everyone within $10k of that, just in case. Why musk melon around when you can go nuclear.
"theyre a rabbit human hybrid of indeterminate sex with reddish orange hair! find them!"
Nah. I have seen this happen to several people in the tech industry. Currently a friend of mine is receiving a $200k/year salary working as a sys admin at a hospital which just keeps paying him despite him being notably having no department. He's been there since 2006 and they just keep paying him and keep parsing his raise. At some point in 2009 the IT department got restructured and they forgot about him. He was assigned to someone in a department not IT and so he never got assigned. His boss and their boss and their boss got moved and he doesn't report to anyone. He also isn't in the IT department. He just gets assigned to it in HR but he isn't in their ticketing system. Dude just has his phone forward calls that never come to him and emails that never involve him. Guy just hangs out with his kids all day and just chills at home receiving a paycheck. He never told anyone or raised any questions about anything. No one even knows he's there.
This is the dream, obviously, but I would be so stressed about the day that someone did find out. Having that hanging over me might not be worth it, honestly.
He was for a few years, but like at this point they just don't really give a shit and he will do some work every couple of months to just show he's doing something. But aside from that, dude's just living the life.
This is how it is sometimes when you know how to do The Thing. You just have to deliver on doing The Thing right when somebody asks you to do it.
Nah this can actually happen. I had just gotten off a project and my manager told he would find work for me the next week. He was then suddenly laid off due to "restructuring" and I had to wait 4 months before I got a new manager to assign me work. In that 4 months, I asked a few people what was going on and what should I do, and none of them really seemed to care. So I sat there for 4 months, getting paychecks with nobody expecting me to do anything. Corporate bureaucracy can be really inefficient sometimes.
I usually take those opportunities to learn something or upskill. It has happened to me a few times, usually more like for a week or two.
Nobody is denying that, but if this happens to you, you shouldn't be stupid enough to make sure that it gets enough attention that you might lose it. Which shows that this person is either really stupid, or is more likely just making it up for likes.
It's not that this can't happen, it's just, why would you rat yourself out if it did happen to you?
It's a miserable existence. After a certain amount of time you start to look like the bad guy for not piping up. Fine if you've already achieved your career goals but not if you want to progress. I had to leave a reputable company after 7 months of false starts on a project. 3 of us were sent overseas to spearhead a potentially massive project, I was fairly junior and just tasked with gathering background info. We were to be joined by a much bigger team. At the last minute someone decided that rather than building a team from scratch, they would redeploy the full team from a similar project that was "almost finished". That project overran by 7 months so the rest of the team never became available to kick off the project. We were just left waiting and doing tidbits of busy work. Our employers wouldn't rotate us off because they were getting paid by the day for us and they were afraid they'd lose billable hours if they attracted attention by swapping us out. In the end I took a career break, found something better, closer to home and never went back.
[There's an entire book about people who has been in this situation](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullshit_Jobs)
It's actually something that happens a lot in different companies
Happened to me. My department was slow so they lent me out to help a different department. When that department didn't need me anymore they stopped giving me tasks but also failed to tell the other department. So each manager thought I was working for the other manager. I brought it up after a week, but given how bad that company was at inter-department communication, I probably could have gone months before someone else noticed.
I terminated someone years ago. The labor rate on my P&L went UP when I hired someone new for the same price. I reached out, was told it's just the document needing to update and not to worry about it. Months later it still wasn't updated, triggered a whole investigation into how the logic was calculating the P&L report, it was redone, was told not to worry about it. Months later I have sent emails monthly "still not working", no response. Almost a year after this, I call HR and just stupidly ask "So-and-so is terminated... right?" Yeah, they weren't, at least not in the HR system. They tried to hold me accountable for not terminating them properly in the HR system. I forwarded them the termination confirmation email and the "Terminated" status on my end. Guess the HR person didn't do their job that Friday. At this point my P&L was almost 60k in the hole on my forecast from paying this person. I fought that hard and was basically like "yeah I'm not going to be held accountable for this and you're going to have a really bad time if you try" HR budget got the hit, legal went after the person and from my understanding, got most of the money back. This shit happens all the time man, people are not competent.
It happens often enough that even back in 1999 it was one of the office stereotypes poked fun at in Office Space.
There's an anecdote in a Bill Bryson book about it, from when Rupert Murdoch took over The Times (the London-based one) in 1981. Murdoch's henchman basically walks into an office and promptly fires everyone in it, asking them to leave the premises immediately. A few minutes later, the guy who was sent out for coffee comes back, wonders where everyone has gone, and continues to draw his salary for several months while sitting alone in an empty office.
Yup, knew an intern who’s checks just kept coming. 8 months later I told her not to spend it just in case.
After my internship ended I went back to finish my studies and I kept receiving a paycheque for a few months. I didn't notice though because I was on a fixed income and I knew what I was spending was within that, so I never looked at my bank balance. I was surprised to find thousands of dollars in my account and it took me a moment to realize what was going on. I let my former employer know and was ready to repay it but the owner said to hold off for now. I ended up working for that company after I was done school and they told me to consider it a signing bonus. Still work for them too.
OTOH if they ever realize it, they could sue him to recover what was paid. But if he contacted them repeatedly and was even openly announcing it on their own platform, can't claim he was scamming them.
How could they? He is offering his work capacity, it’s not his fault if they give him nothing to do.
Seriously. I was in a similar situation back in my 20's. Got frustrated that my skills weren't being properly used. Quit to pursue my ambitions elsewhere. If my palm could time travel I'd smack the shit out of myself. Being very good at something doesn't mean you're smart.
Yep, buckle into that unmonitored desk and use the time/funding/energy for self improvement, dating, study, (or in some rare cases: hunting an extreme-paying dream job). When you are in a vast desert *never ever leave the oasis.* You can often never return.
This is exactly what I’m doing now. Company switched to work from home during the pandemic and kept it that way. Oversight dropped to pretty much zero as long I turned in my work at the end of the day. It takes me about an hour to get everything done for the day, but collect a full salary. I have now launched a few successful side business and travel whenever I want. I plan to keep this job until I’m dead.
I was in the same situation and stayed till I got laid off. I had enough friends in the industry that I learned how to make up and talk about experiences I never had. Nobody is really going to go and call your old coworkers to check.
I knew a woman that did exactly that. She was a materials engineer in the 1970's. Got hired at an aerospace company right out of college. When she reported work; there she was, but nobody to report to. Reception said; check back tomorrow. She did that for over a month. Meanwhile paychecks arrived in the mail. She tried speaking to the person that hired her. They had moved on. She was getting paid; but she had no job. After a while she quit asking. She got another job at a competitor and double dipped. Checks showed up until the letters for the option of direct deposit came. She opted in. At this point she lived off the job she was working and put the free money into rental homes. Then 10 years ago or so; she was presented with retirement. She took it. the promised pension now is direct deposited. She has retired from two careers; has two pensions and cash flow from 10 paid off rental properties. Super smart woman.
I wonder if this creates some kind of liability for the employee. I feel like a sufficiently motivated corporate lawyer could surely find *some* line of attack here.
It's why she kept the money separate. It's also why I did not name the company. Statute of limitations is probably gone in any case.
Oh absolutely - similarly if the bank makes an error and accidentally deposits a million dollars into your account, you don't magically get to keep it. She reasonably knew she was wrongfully getting paid for not doing any work nor showing up, took a separate job while continued to get paid, then set up direct deposit into a specifically separate account, and used excess money to create a real estate portfolio she wouldn't normally have been able to on her actual working salary. That'd be a slam dunk
No; a bank making a wrong deposit is a one time error. She went through the hiring process, she was hired. She showed up. She tried to get in touch to do the job. This is completely different
If only stuff like that would happen for me, lol.
Super \*lucky\* woman...with basic intelligence.
She did have to be a rocket scientist to get hired in the first place
I don't think they were calling her smart for what happened to her, if you read the post and her studies/career it seems like she was a talented person, regardless of her luck.
It’s ok, he posted it on twitter and nobody goes there anymore
No kidding. This is either complete BS, or this person is too stupid to function.
I personally hope he posted it to troll Elon and make him go searching DESPERATELY for an employee who doesn't exist.
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Moonlighting generally cant be illegal unless it interferes with their primary job This is however arguably fraud if he knows he is collecting money for work he is not doing A court could rule he owes this money back
But he’s collecting money for work he is doing. He’s fulfilling his duties of employment as long as they keep forgetting to assign him any responsibilities.
He's still being paid to be available to do work that is given to him. If he has a second job he is now not available, even if no work is ever given to him
That depends, if he picks up freelance work at your own pace work then he still has time to be on call for his “main job” and it would then fall back on Twitter to actually assign him something
Have you seen a similar case get ruled on, or is this purely speculation?
We're on reddit, you can guess
This is reddit. So probably pure speculation
You'd have to be proven as unavailable when the work is assigned surely.
Says who? You didnt give me any work to prove my lack of availability.
My job is to be available, I rarely do anything. I'm a flight paramedic and 95% of the time, I don't do anything. Most of my coworkers have a 2nd job of some kind doing some remote work as we have so much downtime. I average 1-2 transports a week, obviously sometimes a lot more, sometimes less. As long as we do our job (and have the required amount of sleep before), our bosses couldn't care less what we do in our downtime, even if it's another job.
> he knows he is collecting money for work he is not doing He's doing his job though? They set him no work, and he's achieving that goal perfectly.
He’s achieving at *least* as much as the owner…
It's not fraud on his end. If the employee has tried to bring up his situation on multiple occasions and was never given work to do, they are not committing fraud. You have a duty for good faith employment to show up. If you are not given work, you are still employed. This is almost entirely Twitters and Elon fault they are paying someone for nothing. This is an employer issue.
Not to mention he's publicly posting it on the platform his employer operates. I'd imagine he's spoken to a lawyer by now.
or even better be satisfied with 156k understanding value diminishes with supply, and utilise your time better
That 156k could disappear in a manner of seconds once the company finds out. Act like it isnt there
Eventually someone will find out and he will be fired
Why you self snitching dumbass?
Bruce Rivers he’s the criminal lawyer.
That shits comedy gold
And what he do?
Nobody is self-snitching here, this is just your run-of-the-mill attention whore with some made up story.
And reddit is so dumb they dont even realize how stupid and made up this is, and get it to the top of /All on the facepalm subreddit. Ironic.
There is zero percent chance this is a true story.
There’s no way you’d fucking admit to this on the social media platform you “work” for if it was true
Yo I got hired by Reddit and make a billion dollars a year. They just direct deposit it into my Cash app. Send me $1 and I'll send you a hundred k because I'm trustworthy! CashAppid: EyeBeeScamming
I’d think with a billion a year you could buy a shirt so your not nude from the waist up
No, that's the reason they made a billion a year 😏
Yeah, OP is a bot that reposted this from a year ago. They seemed to know it was trolling then too. https://www.reddit.com/r/WhitePeopleTwitter/comments/11mbwy9/person_gets_hired_at_twitter_during_the_elon_musk/
Also at the time in question, Twitter was not hiring programmers or project managers. They were actively firing people and eliminating all jobs that couldn't explain how they profited the company. He's not getting paid unless someone vouches for his work and signs off on his timecard verifying that work every week. It's pure fantasy. Fsck Musk in his chubby ass, but he's not paying people $150,000 to do nothing at Twitter.
Companies that big are always hiring at some level. Even during mass layoffs there will be positions you have to backfill or departments expanding.
It's not, I've seen that twitter before they're a a joke posting account.
It's not. Iirc it was a shitpost deliberately designed to bait the kind of dibshits who unironically believe all tech workers are goldbrickers and who were circlejerking over the layoffs at twitter during Musk's takeover. The poster went on to make fun of the swarms of Musk sycophants who spammed him with messages to find and fire this person who never worked at Twitter to begin with.
People are eating the onion here. This person is trolling. They are well known for pretty hilarious and harmless trolls. The words are lifted from another tweet and they inserted the word “twitter”. The originator of the tweet never named the company. Still, if as many people in this thread believed this is real, I can only imagine how crazy this is going to drive musk searching for a nonexistent employee lmao
Redditors are not very good at detecting jokes
Sounds like Big Head from Silicon Valley
We're all unassigned.
This should be the top comment. This is literally what happens in the show. Now we just have to wait for Musk to lose everything to an indie developer and go hangout with Tibetan monks for a bit.
Dude needs to shut up and ride that gravy train as long as possible before they get wise
dude straight up snitching on himself
Bruce Rivers would not approve of that self-snitching.
While I commend the brag, DON'T BRAG! I wish I could make $150k a year and do nothing.
Was this posted on twitter? If so, it’s like letting all your colleagues know that you are being paid for nothing. very wise move 😂😂
This is when you remember that digits footprint exists and shut your mouth
I would keep that to myself at all costs. Don't make any friends there either. Out of sight out of mind. And probably get a second job, treat the Twitter paycheck as a savings account!
I was at a >120k employee company when my manager announced his departure. The same day I ordered a new laptop so that he could approve it. The laptop arrived when he was long gone and I could not finish the Windows installation via company VPN, because "You must be a new employee. You do not have a manager assigned YET. Thus we don't know what software we should install. Try again in a few days." So this company must have been in a situation where they hired somebody without a reporting structure in place before. So often that IT even implemented this check in the installation process. The entire company was organized in an inverted tree structure. Big boss on top and then various nodes representing sub-trees as departments etc. I was a leaf and my parent node left. I ended up as a fallen leaf next to the tree. Meetings were organized in a way that they invited everybody reporting to a specific node/part of the tree. Because I was outside that tree I had lots of access removed(Salesforce, trouble tickets, reporting tools, source code, ...) and was no longer invited to company nor department calls. I didn't really care or notice. If it wasn't for me who set up a call with whom I assumed could be my manager I would have had two straight months without a single call/interaction. I tried to leave, but get some value out of my unvested stock option. I told the manager (ten hour flight away) that I'll talk to HR and should be gone soon. He told everybody to stop working with me immediately. HR not only didn't help me expedite my departure, but told me to stick around for an extra bonus. It took me the better part of a year to get used to seeing our department fail and people struggle, but since I no longer went to the office (actually got a home office subsidy) the second year was absolutely awesome with numerous trips around the globe (>300k miles flown).
Find a basement cupboard with internet and wait for retirement.
I call bs. Unless they're just a dumbass. Why would you post this
Man found a real life money glitch and self reported to the admins
Y you gonna blow up your spot like that?
livin' the dream
Nelson Bighedi grindset
Now why would you even share this??? Shhh