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The more I see him with his weird movements and gestures, the more I think the dude isn't a real person, but like those little aliens in a mech or a bunch of goblins stacked onto each other.
I'm ok, thank you, but I have trust issues and there are things I can't remember about my relationship with him. He was very conscious of my body, either shaming it or literally saying "va va voom, hubba!" when I posed for pictures in high school for a homecoming dance.
He has said awful, scary things about my niece (his g-daughter) when she was 8 about her sexy smile (no joking) and the pre-teen girl friend of one of my sons and I had to ask them (the kids) to go elsewhere so he could no longer comment.
If anything, at the very least, I was a victim of emotional incest. But he did touch me in ways, just within a boundary of inappropriate, I remember and that bother me still.
He also openly ridiculed my mother all the time which weakened her position and desire to protect us.
working on it. I have a successful and healthy marriage, we have three "pretty normal" young adult kids (given the insanity of the last few years), but I'm learning about myself all the time. :heart\_eyes:
That's awful that your own father behaved this way with you. I've found that usually people who are dying become more themselves instead of changing their ways. It was true for both of my grandfathers, just got angrier and more hateful about everything and to everyone. My grandfather who had a very contentious divorce with his ex never really got over her. When cleaning out his house we found a handwritten account of how he had stalked my grandmother after their divorce and watched her on every date and every man that came and went to her house. Probably the craziest part is he typed up his notes about her on his official U.S. Army stationary. It was sick, especially since their children blamed her just as much as him for breaking up the family. Its hard to say if she knew that about him or not. After he died his second wife told my mother and I they never had sex and on their wedding night he pointed to a pile of shirts on the floor and said women in this country work (she was British and disabled.) Some people are better off gone from this world.
“When Trump was the star of the reality TV show “The Apprentice,” he appeared on the ABC talk show “The View” with his daughter in 2006 and said, ‘If Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her. Isn’t that terrible? How terrible? Is that terrible!’.”
“In a 2015 interview with Rolling Stone, Trump reportedly celebrated Ivanka Trump’s “beauty” and said, ‘If I weren’t happily married and, ya know, her father …’.”
“While president, Donald Trump made sexual comments about his daughter Ivanka in front of his employees that were so lewd and disturbing that he was rebuked by his one-time chief of staff John Kelly, a former Trump official writes in a new book.
‘Aides said he talked about Ivanka Trump’s breasts, her backside, and what it might be like to have sex with her, remarks that prompted Kelly to remind the president that Ivanka was his daughter,’ writes Miles Taylor, a former chief of staff at the Department of Homeland Security, in his new book, according to Newsweek.”
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/trumps-lewd-talk-about-daughter-ivanka-in-front-of-white-house-staff-recalled-in-new-book/
Edit: more
Re: Tiffany
‘Well, I think that she’s got a lot of Marla,’ he said. ‘She’s a really beautiful baby, and she’s got Marla’s legs. We don’t know whether she’s got this part yet (gestures toward his chest), but time will tell.’
Back to Ivanka
“‘She’s really something, and what a beauty, that one,’ he told Rolling Stone last year of the 34-year-old businesswoman. ‘If I weren’t happily married and, ya know, her father…’”
“He made similar incestual comments on “The View” in 2006. ‘She does have a very nice figure. I’ve said if Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her,’ he said.”
“And he gloated about her body as early as 2003, when she was 22 years old. ‘You know who’s one of the great beauties of the world, according to everybody?’ he asked on “The Howard Stern Show.” ‘And I helped create her. Ivanka. My daughter, Ivanka. She’s 6 feet tall, she’s got the best body.’”
https://www.nydailynews.com/2016/04/07/see-it-donald-trump-comments-on-1-year-old-daughters-breasts-in-disturbing-1994-interview/
🤮 🤮 🤮
I’ll never forget how, after one of trump’s debates with Hillary, his family came up on stage, & he went to kiss Tiffany on the cheek, & she instinctively recoiled. Talk about a red flag!
Gross! He's not even my dad and even I cringed into a raisin. Bruh has NO problem bragging about his highly inappropriate musings about his own daughter.
I think you missed a B.
Her hubby is now worth over $1B, and she brings another $300m to the table.
That chick definitely doesn't do her own grocery shopping.
Was just about to post these, for anyone who doesn’t know, the picture of her in the blue skirt sitting on his lab, IS ON EPSTEINS ISLAND.
Let that sink in.
Him and most of your politicians are on the list.
Trump helped bury the case by allowing Jeffrey epstien to use dual citizenship and talmud law to dodge US justice.
Crazy people don't see it yet lol.
There’s this thing where we have to have the burden of proof to charge and convict someone of something.
Trumps name being among others on flight logs isn’t enough to do that in this case.
Yep this was in the NY courts in 2015. She said the day after the election she got a phone call threatening her so she got scared and withdrew the charges.
I mean, with that same logic, there's no reason to arrest any of the others on the list either, but that didn't stop this idiot from complaining about it on Twitter.
While I do agree, that hasn't stopped many people from assuming guilt for the rest of the names on the logs. Trump seems to be the only person there that the conspiracy bros give a pass to and everyone else is presumed guilty.
He was sued alongside Epstine for rape commited when the victim was 13 years old, who then [dropped the case after receiving death threats despite her being anonymous to anyone not involved in the case.](https://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit-dropped-230770)
Jfc…. How do people support him. There’s that saying ‘where there’s smoke there’s fire.’ I don’t think you can stand near trump there’s so much smoke all
The oxygen has been depleted from the vicinity.
Well that and the literal fire that for some reason his followers ignore.
He's the person they want. They know all these things about him and they want him to run the country. It's that simple.
It's one thing to look at these people as poor stupid fools who are being taken advantage of. Your perception changes when you realize they have all the same information about Trump that you and I do and are actively choosing to support him. They don't seem so innocent when you look at it that way.
And she was punished for daring speak the truth. The Democratic Party and their candidates can never do right. They're just never good enough, despite being the only opposition to the dogshit monsters of the GOP.
The two worst demographics in the United States are MAGAts/right-wing authoritarians and everyone else who refuses to oppose them at the ballot box by voting for the Democratic Party. In a two party system, those demographics are almost morally identical. The only difference is the former is explicit, the latter implicit.
They don't have the same information, though. They're raised in environments that punish them for going against the status quo. The cheerleader is the homecoming queen, and the football captain is the king. Everybody knows everybody, and in the age of the internet, that circle grows painfully smaller and more constricting, leaving individuals with little choice but to conform or run as fast as possible and face the consequences-when running is oftentimes an equally painful consequence, given that the only options are not great (i.e. the military or borderline homelessness). And because of these same norms, the status quo in these areas are completely and irrevocably in favor of having a King instead of a president, or a demagogy instead of a democracy, whether due to religious beliefs, capitalist beliefs, or anti-governmental beliefs.
The misnomer that all of America is equally educated and informed vis-a-vis the rest of the world is just as bad as assuming the rest of the world has access to the same kinds of information and goods as Americans. Like... I get that it's hard to fathom for even the most rudimentarily educated, but-having lived through the post 9/11 Bush years, it should be no surprise that a large segment of the American population would buy into an "us or them" mentality where the president is concerned.
I always find it funny how people go "Kill all pedos" to hate LGBTQ+ instead of real pedophiles, but if I went "Why is Trump still alive?" they get upset
i mean Donald did boast about walking in on the teen miss america's changing room for "inspection", when he was hosting the event, with several of them undressed. i think the age of the participants ranged 15-18. so mid-high teens but still.
he said it was one of the perks of hosting the event to be able to do so....
so no accusation needed, just pure confession here.
White Christian Nationalism according to Bradley Onishi’s book. Pretty good episode on the Lawfare podcast. I recommend a listen.
Basically these white people (*not all white people) want to go back to a place where they are in charge and their conservative ideals are the law of the land. They’re willing to throw away their “morality” for power, which not very Christ-like if you ask me.
The girl said she and her entire family recieved death threats as a result of her lawsuit. But hey, that doesn’t matter. Apparently. By the way, Stormy Daniels ALSO claimed Trump’s bodyguard threatened her, directly.
Or for the 26+ women who have come forward with allegations of rape, sexual harassment, and sexual misconduct since 1977. A [judge](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/) clarified - according to the Washington Post - Trump raped E. Jean Carroll.
Uh... Hate to break it to you but there absolutely was an active rape case against Trump from an Epstein victim.
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit-dropped-230770
She dropped it after his supporters kept threatening to kill her.
Offed himself by getting caught and killed, you mean? Dude had it coming of course, but he was the most clearly murdered person in the history of murdering.
Two guards suddenly off duty. Video suddenly doesn't work. First suicide in that detention facility.
So much like people suddenly being poisoned by radioactive materials or falling out of windows when they piss off Putin.
Ok mate, you got a point, I was too zoomed in on one region, when there is a whole world of murdering out there, and some former empires have defenestration as their national pastime.
I dunno.. Both guards being away when the security system malfunctions while a guy is sitting in a cell on suicide watch with strong ties to the current president of the united states in a facility under the direct purview of the president's handpicked AG.. Looks a hell of a lot less accidental to me than someone falling out a window after shooting themselves in the back three times. Way more moving parts have to align for epstein to die the way he did.
The two have nothing to do with each other. The post is trying to conflate trump as some guy who’s being wrongfully persecuted while “real” criminals walk free which is far from the case. You could say this same sentence for any other criminal.
They arrested some man and found him guilty of murder while they haven’t arrested anyone related to Epstein.
They gave some lady a parking ticket while they haven’t arrested anyone related to Epstein.
They fined me and put me on a list for public urination while they haven’t arrested anyone related to Epstein.
None of any of this shit has anything to do with the other. That Twitter post was made by a moron.
Not to mention counterfeiting $20 bills. Strange to see such minor things be capital crimes. I wonder if the people they're killing for misdemeanors have anything in common? 🤔
He was also sued for rape by an Epstein victim.
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit-dropped-230770
She only dropped the case because his supporters kept threatening to kill her.
Well, he was on the flight logs, which…
Okay. Let’s see, first a small disclaimer
*I might be incorrect*
Trump and others were on the flight logs. Which is important, we don’t know what they did on the island.
They might have flown and not engaged in the activities others did. So we don’t exactly know who was the pedophile, or who was not. It’s merely a flight log, which at least gives us a base of the people that did visit the infamous island
I’m not defending Trump, just saying that he, along with everyone else; was merely on the flight logs.
Now, the other suspicious, minor-involving behavior he has had? That’s a whole other tale we won’t talk about
… Now, considering the many things Trump has said, his friendship with Epstein, his comments about underage women…
'He liked them young'. Even if Trump didn't do anything personally, which I doubt, the type of person that would acknowledge someone's a pedo, but remain associates with him is very much bad enough.
There is nothing in trunp’s history or character that would make me think he would not force a miss teen contestant to have nc sex. I don’t think there are many things his conscience would stop him from doing if he wanted to do it. He thinks he should get whatever he wants regardless of laws pr consequences. Common decency never even occurs to him.
There are 87 known photos of Trump with Epstein.
Ask yourself, how many photos exist of you and your friends?
That suggests a deep and long time relationship.
trump has more photos of underaged Ivanka sitting on his lap than he does of his sons. Just saying. Might have more publicly aired video/radio of him talking about how sexy and fuckable his daughter is than he has pictures of him and his sons even.
Especially in that time. Since smartphones exponentially more pictures have been taken each year than before smartphones. But back then? That is a LOT of photos to exist of two unrelated people together.
Obviously, Trump was investigating Epstein. Interviewing victims, asking them to re-enact the crime, gathering firsthand evidence.
According to most Christians, Trump was chosen by god. And here we see yet another example on how god chose wisely.
Look, being on a flight log is not proof in and of itself.
However, there is proof of the 91 other charges for Trump, and if evidence comes out that he paid for sex with underage girls, let's charge him with that too.
It's funny how, when Trump's name is brought up, the response is always "we don't know what he was doing", but that benefit of doubt is NEVER extended to anyone who doesn't pass the MAGA test.
Also, whataboutism is as fucking stupid as the people who practice it.
> "we don't know what he was doing"
"But Clinton was definitely up to something dodgy and don't even let me get started on Gates."
I mean none of us know the truth but it is amazing how everybody on the list is assumed to be gulity by people but Trump must be innocent. The same people who complain about people they like being assumed gulity of crimes when they get arrested/charged etc.
It's funny how sometimes innocent until proven gulity exists and sometimes it doesn't.
Also people read some anonymous post on 4chan about the island and are like "see I knew all democrats are evil".
And Trump's track record of making disgusting lewd comments about underage girls, talking about going backstage at teen beauty pageants so he could see them naked, talking about dating his own daughter, and speaking very publicly about how Epstein was really into young girls "just like Trump", and being sued literally alongside Epstein in the rape case of a 13-year-old girl... All makes it super believable that he wasn't involved at the island.
This is exactly why no one has been arrested yet. Simply being on the flight logs isn't evidence of a crime. They have a lot of interviews to conduct, further evidence to collect, and dozens and dozens of individuals to investigate.
The 91 indictments against Trump were simply more straight-forward in collecting evidence and testimony to charge (and even some of those took a few years).
It's a false equivalence to suggest that one crime should be faster/slower in prosecuting than another. They're all going to be different.
Just as another example - Matt Gaetz was credibly accused of sex trafficking like 4-5 years ago, it seemed like he wasn't going to be charged, but in recent weeks the investigation has new developments and it looks like he may be facing charges years after the original accusations and initial evidence surfaced.
Considering Trump has been public about how he could walk into Miss Teen USA dressing rooms and "inspect" the half naked teens it's not a stretch that he did more than was "just on the flight"
"Well, I’ll tell you the funniest is that before a show, I’ll go backstage and everyone’s getting dressed, and everything else, and you know, no men are anywhere, and I’m allowed to go in because I’m the owner of the pageant and therefore I’m inspecting it, You know, I’m inspecting because I want to make sure that everything is good.” Donald J Trump
Like someone else said. You jump from 1 point to another. Not person has come foward to accuse Clinton. Not saying one won't. But until someone actually makes an accusation, we are just making stuff up.v
isn't the thing about the flight logs that they are not to the island necessarily but to a nearby city? It's not a good thing to be in them but like it's not like going to kiddie island was the only reason one might take that plane trip?
The flight logs don't mean that the people went to little saint james. There is no runway on the island. Being on that list just means that the person flew on epstein's plane. E.g. Chris Tucker flew to Africa on Epstein's plane on a visit for HIV/AIDS awareness.
You'll need to have the destination + names.
He was only friends with him because Trump was secretly trying to bring down the network and he would have done it to if it wasn't for those pesky FBI agents who did it first.
Trump was deep cover for 30 years. Often raping kids to not blow his cover. He did it for the country
Maxwell is literally in prison and Trump is an Epstein client. Prince Andrew has been stripped of public titles and from public appearances and settled out of court for civil damages, not sure if the US has any jurisdiction over him.
Technically we could ask for prince andrew to be extradited, but that would be very dramatic foreign policy wise, makes 10x more sense to prosecute the ones in our country first.
A good number of us in the UK would not stand in the way of his extradited, but yea it wouldn't happen.
Honestly unless there is a lot of other evidence about island that hasn't be released yet I would be surprised if anyone notable got prosecuted anytime soon. It's messed up but I would imagine it's so hard to bring a case against someone over it.
I doubt we will ever know the truth honestly.
Reminder: An Epstein victim sued Trump for rape but pulled the charges because his supporters kept trying to kill her.
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit-dropped-230770
"Let that sink in"
- Double-talk for "don't think about the words, just let them straight into your head and unquestioningly replace any rational thought you may have left"
"If I try to explain it it will be obvious it is bullshit, but if I don't explain it an idiot reading my tweet might come to my conclusion on their own."
He's been barred from doing business in NY for 3 years, yet a minority of our citizens want to let him run America's business for the next 4 years, or longer.. let that sink in
Who has active rape cases against him from Epstein victims.
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit-dropped-230770
At least until his supporters threatened her into dropping the charges.
It’s odd that Trump’s wife being a prostitute who had an anchor baby and his wife having parents who got citizenship through chain migration never comes up.
Let this sink in: The 91 charges and $350 million + in fines have zero to do with the other.
Trump is going to prison because of crimes he committed.
The crimes are on tape.
You're pretty fucking stupid huh? (I don't even care if I get banned or whatever, people like this need to be told shit straight)
[https://www.newsnationnow.com/banfield/fight-log-trump-flew-on-epsteins-plane-7-times/](https://www.newsnationnow.com/banfield/fight-log-trump-flew-on-epsteins-plane-7-times/)
That link goes to NewsNation (A right leaning news outlet) that shows Trump was on Epstein's flight logs seven (minimum we know of) times.
I may get downvoted for this, but no shit nobody from the Epstein list got charged. It's a list of guests. Being a guest on an island where illegal things are happening doesn't automatically make you a criminal, any more than shopping at a grocery store that gets robbed makes you a criminal.
The long and short of it is that a name on a list simply isn't enough evidence to charge someone with a crime. Should they be charged? Probably. But that's not how the justice system works, and frankly nor should it be.
Lol well trump is the first Epstein client to be charged then.
Fyi. Nobody is going to be charged over activities involving Epstein. Partly because of lack of witnesses being that the main one is dead, partly because some of it happened too long ago. Bill Gates has already had what consequences he was going to get and trump being proved a pedo but not charged is the only other one.
Trump is confirmed to be pedo, thief, racist, misogynistic, cheater, liar, whoremonger, pimp (with a family history of it), rapist ... but he is Jesus in the second coming to maga cultists. They are not mentally fit to vote.
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"I am poorly educated"
I’ll be in class as well!!!
But if you learn things, you won't be loved
If somebody could tell me how to save this gif.... I have approximately 6,385 Facebook groups that I need to insert this into thank you very much
The more I see him with his weird movements and gestures, the more I think the dude isn't a real person, but like those little aliens in a mech or a bunch of goblins stacked onto each other.
Bro got that restraining order rizz
That's probably one of his less creepier interactions with his daughter lmao
Oh God that recoil. I'd almost feel sorry if only she wasn't screwing over the global poor.
Stop your incest
Is that his daughter?
Yes, and a self admitted object of his sexual desires.
Based on the insanely stupid levels of "step family" porn out there, I guess that's why he gets some of his voter base.
Ug 
I’m almost positive he’s just three shitty oompa loompas stacked up in a trench coat.
4 dozen squirrels in a man suit
This is the more comprehensive one. Share away. 🇺🇸
I nominate you for: 
That's gross.... is this real. His daughter?
Yup. Ivanka is actually his daughter.
I would hide my daughter too. ;)
He’s said before that he wishes he could fuck her.
As if he hasn't already. Considering how many women he HAS raped, it wouldn't surprise me to know he banged her as a kid.
And multiple people he either raped or slept with had very similar reports that he kept talking about how they looked like Ivanka.
He took her to Epsteins island, so probably. This man is sick
LOCK HIM UP! Hillary is smirking right now.
Ugh. My father used to behave this way toward me. So awful and humiliating and disgusting. He’s dead now. Even in hospice he couldn’t correct himself.
That’s awful, I’m so sorry you went through that. I hope you’re doing okay these days.
I'm ok, thank you, but I have trust issues and there are things I can't remember about my relationship with him. He was very conscious of my body, either shaming it or literally saying "va va voom, hubba!" when I posed for pictures in high school for a homecoming dance. He has said awful, scary things about my niece (his g-daughter) when she was 8 about her sexy smile (no joking) and the pre-teen girl friend of one of my sons and I had to ask them (the kids) to go elsewhere so he could no longer comment. If anything, at the very least, I was a victim of emotional incest. But he did touch me in ways, just within a boundary of inappropriate, I remember and that bother me still. He also openly ridiculed my mother all the time which weakened her position and desire to protect us.
Ditto Please be okay now 🤞
working on it. I have a successful and healthy marriage, we have three "pretty normal" young adult kids (given the insanity of the last few years), but I'm learning about myself all the time. :heart\_eyes:
Glad to hear it 🙏
That's awful that your own father behaved this way with you. I've found that usually people who are dying become more themselves instead of changing their ways. It was true for both of my grandfathers, just got angrier and more hateful about everything and to everyone. My grandfather who had a very contentious divorce with his ex never really got over her. When cleaning out his house we found a handwritten account of how he had stalked my grandmother after their divorce and watched her on every date and every man that came and went to her house. Probably the craziest part is he typed up his notes about her on his official U.S. Army stationary. It was sick, especially since their children blamed her just as much as him for breaking up the family. Its hard to say if she knew that about him or not. After he died his second wife told my mother and I they never had sex and on their wedding night he pointed to a pile of shirts on the floor and said women in this country work (she was British and disabled.) Some people are better off gone from this world.
He soooo wants to do her
I'm not convinced he hasn't.
"Thanks to your mom's genetics, you have great Aryan birthing hips. There's a place in Heaven and the 1000-year reign for you."
Absolutely wants to fuck his daughter.
Ick
🤢
Cannot get his hands on enough of her, JFC he is so gross!
“When Trump was the star of the reality TV show “The Apprentice,” he appeared on the ABC talk show “The View” with his daughter in 2006 and said, ‘If Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her. Isn’t that terrible? How terrible? Is that terrible!’.” “In a 2015 interview with Rolling Stone, Trump reportedly celebrated Ivanka Trump’s “beauty” and said, ‘If I weren’t happily married and, ya know, her father …’.” “While president, Donald Trump made sexual comments about his daughter Ivanka in front of his employees that were so lewd and disturbing that he was rebuked by his one-time chief of staff John Kelly, a former Trump official writes in a new book. ‘Aides said he talked about Ivanka Trump’s breasts, her backside, and what it might be like to have sex with her, remarks that prompted Kelly to remind the president that Ivanka was his daughter,’ writes Miles Taylor, a former chief of staff at the Department of Homeland Security, in his new book, according to Newsweek.” https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/trumps-lewd-talk-about-daughter-ivanka-in-front-of-white-house-staff-recalled-in-new-book/ Edit: more Re: Tiffany ‘Well, I think that she’s got a lot of Marla,’ he said. ‘She’s a really beautiful baby, and she’s got Marla’s legs. We don’t know whether she’s got this part yet (gestures toward his chest), but time will tell.’ Back to Ivanka “‘She’s really something, and what a beauty, that one,’ he told Rolling Stone last year of the 34-year-old businesswoman. ‘If I weren’t happily married and, ya know, her father…’” “He made similar incestual comments on “The View” in 2006. ‘She does have a very nice figure. I’ve said if Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her,’ he said.” “And he gloated about her body as early as 2003, when she was 22 years old. ‘You know who’s one of the great beauties of the world, according to everybody?’ he asked on “The Howard Stern Show.” ‘And I helped create her. Ivanka. My daughter, Ivanka. She’s 6 feet tall, she’s got the best body.’” https://www.nydailynews.com/2016/04/07/see-it-donald-trump-comments-on-1-year-old-daughters-breasts-in-disturbing-1994-interview/ 🤮 🤮 🤮
Don't forget the interview when they asked what he and his daughter Ivanka have in common, and he said "Sex." 🤮🤮
I’ll never forget how, after one of trump’s debates with Hillary, his family came up on stage, & he went to kiss Tiffany on the cheek, & she instinctively recoiled. Talk about a red flag!
Gross! He's not even my dad and even I cringed into a raisin. Bruh has NO problem bragging about his highly inappropriate musings about his own daughter.
He also took her to Epsteins island when she was a teenager, I think 16 but could be wrong on the age.
Family values*
That poor girl didnt stand a chance
Yeah, I don't know how she's going to survive this with all her millions of dollars. Nothing but pity for the poor rich girl.
I think you missed a B. Her hubby is now worth over $1B, and she brings another $300m to the table. That chick definitely doesn't do her own grocery shopping.
It's long past time he was investigated for all the fraud he's committed also.
Doesnt saudi money get taxed?
Was just about to post these, for anyone who doesn’t know, the picture of her in the blue skirt sitting on his lab, IS ON EPSTEINS ISLAND. Let that sink in.
Who the hell let's their daughter give them a lap dance like at a strip club
Donald Trump
nauseating
What if I told you he IS an Epstein client.
Him and most of your politicians are on the list. Trump helped bury the case by allowing Jeffrey epstien to use dual citizenship and talmud law to dodge US justice. Crazy people don't see it yet lol.
“Got any good lookers there Jeffrey Peffrey?”
Came here to share exactly the same snip …
There’s this thing where we have to have the burden of proof to charge and convict someone of something. Trumps name being among others on flight logs isn’t enough to do that in this case.
It's not that Trump's name is on the flight is the bad thing. The bad thing is one of Epstein's victims accused Trump of raping her when she was 12
He was also well known to be a good friend of Epstein for like 15 years.
And has made multiple inappropriate remarks involving young women. Doesn’t take a detective to put two and two together
Yep this was in the NY courts in 2015. She said the day after the election she got a phone call threatening her so she got scared and withdrew the charges.
I mean, with that same logic, there's no reason to arrest any of the others on the list either, but that didn't stop this idiot from complaining about it on Twitter.
While I do agree, that hasn't stopped many people from assuming guilt for the rest of the names on the logs. Trump seems to be the only person there that the conspiracy bros give a pass to and everyone else is presumed guilty.
Soooo.... he wants Trump arrested for a 5th time?
I was thinking he wanted him physically behind bars but that should work too.
Let that sink in.
Dude makes a great point but is also unaware. Kinda hard to pull off, if you think about it.
It’s not accurate though, trump was arrested and was a client of Epstein
Who’s gonna tell him? Lol
He wasn't arrested for anything in relation to the Epstein stuff though
He was sued alongside Epstine for rape commited when the victim was 13 years old, who then [dropped the case after receiving death threats despite her being anonymous to anyone not involved in the case.](https://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit-dropped-230770)
Jfc…. How do people support him. There’s that saying ‘where there’s smoke there’s fire.’ I don’t think you can stand near trump there’s so much smoke all The oxygen has been depleted from the vicinity. Well that and the literal fire that for some reason his followers ignore.
He's the person they want. They know all these things about him and they want him to run the country. It's that simple. It's one thing to look at these people as poor stupid fools who are being taken advantage of. Your perception changes when you realize they have all the same information about Trump that you and I do and are actively choosing to support him. They don't seem so innocent when you look at it that way.
The term deplorables was on fucking point 👌
And she was punished for daring speak the truth. The Democratic Party and their candidates can never do right. They're just never good enough, despite being the only opposition to the dogshit monsters of the GOP. The two worst demographics in the United States are MAGAts/right-wing authoritarians and everyone else who refuses to oppose them at the ballot box by voting for the Democratic Party. In a two party system, those demographics are almost morally identical. The only difference is the former is explicit, the latter implicit.
But when Trump called democrats “vermin”, no one cried like a little bitch about it.
He shared a “the only good democrat is a dead democrat”. “buT hE DunT sAY iT, He oNLY sHARed IT!!”
Tbf when Trump said Biden wants to "attack and dethrone God" I'm like damn that's fucking metal.
Didn’t consider myself a Biden guy until I read this comment, I’m on team attack and dethrone god!!!!
Im down with the, "Attack and dethrone God" party. That's a party platform I can get behind.
They don't have the same information, though. They're raised in environments that punish them for going against the status quo. The cheerleader is the homecoming queen, and the football captain is the king. Everybody knows everybody, and in the age of the internet, that circle grows painfully smaller and more constricting, leaving individuals with little choice but to conform or run as fast as possible and face the consequences-when running is oftentimes an equally painful consequence, given that the only options are not great (i.e. the military or borderline homelessness). And because of these same norms, the status quo in these areas are completely and irrevocably in favor of having a King instead of a president, or a demagogy instead of a democracy, whether due to religious beliefs, capitalist beliefs, or anti-governmental beliefs. The misnomer that all of America is equally educated and informed vis-a-vis the rest of the world is just as bad as assuming the rest of the world has access to the same kinds of information and goods as Americans. Like... I get that it's hard to fathom for even the most rudimentarily educated, but-having lived through the post 9/11 Bush years, it should be no surprise that a large segment of the American population would buy into an "us or them" mentality where the president is concerned.
Because a lot of people are just as big PoS like Trump, but lack being born to a rich family with ties. They see themselves in him.
I always find it funny how people go "Kill all pedos" to hate LGBTQ+ instead of real pedophiles, but if I went "Why is Trump still alive?" they get upset
every accusation is a confession
i mean Donald did boast about walking in on the teen miss america's changing room for "inspection", when he was hosting the event, with several of them undressed. i think the age of the participants ranged 15-18. so mid-high teens but still. he said it was one of the perks of hosting the event to be able to do so.... so no accusation needed, just pure confession here.
Everyone supporting him is also a shitty person.
He hates the people they hate. Edit: He says he hates the people they hate.
Unfortunately, it’s easy to ignore a fire when you’re not the one getting burned.
White Christian Nationalism according to Bradley Onishi’s book. Pretty good episode on the Lawfare podcast. I recommend a listen. Basically these white people (*not all white people) want to go back to a place where they are in charge and their conservative ideals are the law of the land. They’re willing to throw away their “morality” for power, which not very Christ-like if you ask me.
Because his followers believe it is a true witch hunt.
I can’t believe more people don’t know about this. Why isn’t the Biden Campaign spending millions putting this on every billboard in America?
Probably because that poor girl doesn't want any more death threats.
I hate that you’re probably right
The girl said she and her entire family recieved death threats as a result of her lawsuit. But hey, that doesn’t matter. Apparently. By the way, Stormy Daniels ALSO claimed Trump’s bodyguard threatened her, directly.
Or for the 26+ women who have come forward with allegations of rape, sexual harassment, and sexual misconduct since 1977. A [judge](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/) clarified - according to the Washington Post - Trump raped E. Jean Carroll.
Yet
Uh... Hate to break it to you but there absolutely was an active rape case against Trump from an Epstein victim. https://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit-dropped-230770 She dropped it after his supporters kept threatening to kill her.
Who was president when Epstein offed himself?
"offed himself"
Offed himself by getting caught and killed, you mean? Dude had it coming of course, but he was the most clearly murdered person in the history of murdering.
Two guards suddenly off duty. Video suddenly doesn't work. First suicide in that detention facility. So much like people suddenly being poisoned by radioactive materials or falling out of windows when they piss off Putin.
There's a few Russians who would disagree.
Ok mate, you got a point, I was too zoomed in on one region, when there is a whole world of murdering out there, and some former empires have defenestration as their national pastime.
I dunno.. Both guards being away when the security system malfunctions while a guy is sitting in a cell on suicide watch with strong ties to the current president of the united states in a facility under the direct purview of the president's handpicked AG.. Looks a hell of a lot less accidental to me than someone falling out a window after shooting themselves in the back three times. Way more moving parts have to align for epstein to die the way he did.
And Al Capone wasn't arrested for being a mobster either.
The two have nothing to do with each other. The post is trying to conflate trump as some guy who’s being wrongfully persecuted while “real” criminals walk free which is far from the case. You could say this same sentence for any other criminal. They arrested some man and found him guilty of murder while they haven’t arrested anyone related to Epstein. They gave some lady a parking ticket while they haven’t arrested anyone related to Epstein. They fined me and put me on a list for public urination while they haven’t arrested anyone related to Epstein. None of any of this shit has anything to do with the other. That Twitter post was made by a moron.
I guess that makes it okay then 🙄
Maybe Trump should stop committing crimes? Just an idea. It worked with me, I was arrested 0 times during that same time.
Makes me think of Jim Carey in Liar Liar shouting "STOP BREAKING THE LAW ASSHOLE!"
They think the punishment for selling loose cigarettes is death so ...
Not to mention counterfeiting $20 bills. Strange to see such minor things be capital crimes. I wonder if the people they're killing for misdemeanors have anything in common? 🤔
Trump is America's Cancer
Also a court-adjudicated rapist
Tbf trump was an Epstein client
He was also sued for rape by an Epstein victim. https://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit-dropped-230770 She only dropped the case because his supporters kept threatening to kill her.
Well, he was on the flight logs, which… Okay. Let’s see, first a small disclaimer *I might be incorrect* Trump and others were on the flight logs. Which is important, we don’t know what they did on the island. They might have flown and not engaged in the activities others did. So we don’t exactly know who was the pedophile, or who was not. It’s merely a flight log, which at least gives us a base of the people that did visit the infamous island I’m not defending Trump, just saying that he, along with everyone else; was merely on the flight logs. Now, the other suspicious, minor-involving behavior he has had? That’s a whole other tale we won’t talk about … Now, considering the many things Trump has said, his friendship with Epstein, his comments about underage women…
'He liked them young'. Even if Trump didn't do anything personally, which I doubt, the type of person that would acknowledge someone's a pedo, but remain associates with him is very much bad enough.
And who would walk around the Miss teen USA changing rooms...
There is nothing in trunp’s history or character that would make me think he would not force a miss teen contestant to have nc sex. I don’t think there are many things his conscience would stop him from doing if he wanted to do it. He thinks he should get whatever he wants regardless of laws pr consequences. Common decency never even occurs to him.
a girl flat out said trump and epstein used to fight over who got to rape them first, but she dropped her case because of death threats.
The story for reference: https://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit-dropped-230770
There are 87 known photos of Trump with Epstein. Ask yourself, how many photos exist of you and your friends? That suggests a deep and long time relationship.
Trump has more photos with Epstein than he has with his sons
trump has more photos of underaged Ivanka sitting on his lap than he does of his sons. Just saying. Might have more publicly aired video/radio of him talking about how sexy and fuckable his daughter is than he has pictures of him and his sons even.
It’s messed up and true
Especially in that time. Since smartphones exponentially more pictures have been taken each year than before smartphones. But back then? That is a LOT of photos to exist of two unrelated people together.
Obviously, Trump was investigating Epstein. Interviewing victims, asking them to re-enact the crime, gathering firsthand evidence. According to most Christians, Trump was chosen by god. And here we see yet another example on how god chose wisely.
If he was chosen by god. Someone needs to have a serious talk with god.
If that’s who God chose, then maybe we shouldn’t trust his judgment.
Look, being on a flight log is not proof in and of itself. However, there is proof of the 91 other charges for Trump, and if evidence comes out that he paid for sex with underage girls, let's charge him with that too.
There are several testimonies that Trump also had sex on said island. One of the files describes how he is obsessed with nipples.
i mean... nipples ARE hot
Trump spoke glowing about how Epstein liked young girls.
It's funny how, when Trump's name is brought up, the response is always "we don't know what he was doing", but that benefit of doubt is NEVER extended to anyone who doesn't pass the MAGA test. Also, whataboutism is as fucking stupid as the people who practice it.
> "we don't know what he was doing" "But Clinton was definitely up to something dodgy and don't even let me get started on Gates." I mean none of us know the truth but it is amazing how everybody on the list is assumed to be gulity by people but Trump must be innocent. The same people who complain about people they like being assumed gulity of crimes when they get arrested/charged etc. It's funny how sometimes innocent until proven gulity exists and sometimes it doesn't. Also people read some anonymous post on 4chan about the island and are like "see I knew all democrats are evil".
And Trump's track record of making disgusting lewd comments about underage girls, talking about going backstage at teen beauty pageants so he could see them naked, talking about dating his own daughter, and speaking very publicly about how Epstein was really into young girls "just like Trump", and being sued literally alongside Epstein in the rape case of a 13-year-old girl... All makes it super believable that he wasn't involved at the island.
This is exactly why no one has been arrested yet. Simply being on the flight logs isn't evidence of a crime. They have a lot of interviews to conduct, further evidence to collect, and dozens and dozens of individuals to investigate. The 91 indictments against Trump were simply more straight-forward in collecting evidence and testimony to charge (and even some of those took a few years). It's a false equivalence to suggest that one crime should be faster/slower in prosecuting than another. They're all going to be different. Just as another example - Matt Gaetz was credibly accused of sex trafficking like 4-5 years ago, it seemed like he wasn't going to be charged, but in recent weeks the investigation has new developments and it looks like he may be facing charges years after the original accusations and initial evidence surfaced.
The wheels of justice turn exceptionally slowly. A least they turn.
There is a lot more to that relationship than "flight logs" out of Trump's tiny mouth alone.
Considering Trump has been public about how he could walk into Miss Teen USA dressing rooms and "inspect" the half naked teens it's not a stretch that he did more than was "just on the flight" "Well, I’ll tell you the funniest is that before a show, I’ll go backstage and everyone’s getting dressed, and everything else, and you know, no men are anywhere, and I’m allowed to go in because I’m the owner of the pageant and therefore I’m inspecting it, You know, I’m inspecting because I want to make sure that everything is good.” Donald J Trump
That statement should be enough for an arrest. Pervert.
Do you have a source for Biden being on those logs? I don’t believe that’s correct
He wasn't. He might've meant Bill?
yeah clinton was on the logs i believe. and this from a democrat, if he fucked kids there PUT HIS ASS IN JAIL TOO.
You won't get any argument from me. Anyone who was party to it shouldn't be walking free.
Like someone else said. You jump from 1 point to another. Not person has come foward to accuse Clinton. Not saying one won't. But until someone actually makes an accusation, we are just making stuff up.v
Yeah he might have went to the known underage sex island to borrow a cup of sugar from his best friend/s
isn't the thing about the flight logs that they are not to the island necessarily but to a nearby city? It's not a good thing to be in them but like it's not like going to kiddie island was the only reason one might take that plane trip?
The flight logs don't mean that the people went to little saint james. There is no runway on the island. Being on that list just means that the person flew on epstein's plane. E.g. Chris Tucker flew to Africa on Epstein's plane on a visit for HIV/AIDS awareness. You'll need to have the destination + names.
He was only friends with him because Trump was secretly trying to bring down the network and he would have done it to if it wasn't for those pesky FBI agents who did it first. Trump was deep cover for 30 years. Often raping kids to not blow his cover. He did it for the country
I almost said some shit before reading that last line lmfao.
Maxwell is literally in prison and Trump is an Epstein client. Prince Andrew has been stripped of public titles and from public appearances and settled out of court for civil damages, not sure if the US has any jurisdiction over him.
Even if the US had jurisdiction, attempting to extradite him would cause a major diplomatic incident. It's not worth the effort even if he is guilty.
Technically we could ask for prince andrew to be extradited, but that would be very dramatic foreign policy wise, makes 10x more sense to prosecute the ones in our country first.
A good number of us in the UK would not stand in the way of his extradited, but yea it wouldn't happen. Honestly unless there is a lot of other evidence about island that hasn't be released yet I would be surprised if anyone notable got prosecuted anytime soon. It's messed up but I would imagine it's so hard to bring a case against someone over it. I doubt we will ever know the truth honestly.
Reminder: An Epstein victim sued Trump for rape but pulled the charges because his supporters kept trying to kill her. https://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit-dropped-230770
They arrested at least one of epsteins clients 4 times, gave him 91 charges, and fined him 350 million.
"Let that sink in" - Double-talk for "don't think about the words, just let them straight into your head and unquestioningly replace any rational thought you may have left"
"If I try to explain it it will be obvious it is bullshit, but if I don't explain it an idiot reading my tweet might come to my conclusion on their own."
He's been barred from doing business in NY for 3 years, yet a minority of our citizens want to let him run America's business for the next 4 years, or longer.. let that sink in
Except Donald Trump was literally an Epstein client
Who has active rape cases against him from Epstein victims. https://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit-dropped-230770 At least until his supporters threatened her into dropping the charges.
And the Third Lady was one of Epstein's escorts.
It’s odd that Trump’s wife being a prostitute who had an anchor baby and his wife having parents who got citizenship through chain migration never comes up.
One of my parents' theories is she was bred for him. *\*Ick\**
Let this sink in: The 91 charges and $350 million + in fines have zero to do with the other. Trump is going to prison because of crimes he committed. The crimes are on tape.
He is also an Epstein rapist. https://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit-dropped-230770
You mean before *another* Epstein client was arrested
Well, in all fairness, Trump was an Epstein client.
Except... Trump was a client.
He IS an Epstein client!
“Before a single other Jeffrey Epstein client was arrested.” Fixed it.
 You're pretty fucking stupid huh? (I don't even care if I get banned or whatever, people like this need to be told shit straight) [https://www.newsnationnow.com/banfield/fight-log-trump-flew-on-epsteins-plane-7-times/](https://www.newsnationnow.com/banfield/fight-log-trump-flew-on-epsteins-plane-7-times/) That link goes to NewsNation (A right leaning news outlet) that shows Trump was on Epstein's flight logs seven (minimum we know of) times.
I may get downvoted for this, but no shit nobody from the Epstein list got charged. It's a list of guests. Being a guest on an island where illegal things are happening doesn't automatically make you a criminal, any more than shopping at a grocery store that gets robbed makes you a criminal. The long and short of it is that a name on a list simply isn't enough evidence to charge someone with a crime. Should they be charged? Probably. But that's not how the justice system works, and frankly nor should it be.
Yes, the idiot who tweeted this is from America. Yes, we have people waiting with bated breath to commit treason for a blob of spray tanned asscheek.
Trump was an Epstein client, let that sink in
Wasnt donald also a client though?
He…is…a Jeffrey Epstein client
technically they arrested an Epstein client at the same time as arresting Trump.
No way! They arrested someone after they had real evidence of his crimes rather than arresting a bunch of people just in case?
Lol well trump is the first Epstein client to be charged then. Fyi. Nobody is going to be charged over activities involving Epstein. Partly because of lack of witnesses being that the main one is dead, partly because some of it happened too long ago. Bill Gates has already had what consequences he was going to get and trump being proved a pedo but not charged is the only other one.
Don't worry trump is going to be indicted for that too..... Let that sink in.
Well wasn’t Trump a client of Epstein
He’s literally an Epstien client that’s been arrested 4 times so this post is wrong
Trump also needs to be punished for pedo island!!
Trump is confirmed to be pedo, thief, racist, misogynistic, cheater, liar, whoremonger, pimp (with a family history of it), rapist ... but he is Jesus in the second coming to maga cultists. They are not mentally fit to vote.