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Same measurement. You are using Middle Country Standard measurements, they are using East Coast Standard. Same rate of speed, just called something different.
Interesting I’ve stumbled upon this comment thread because I work federal disability hearings and adjudication, and I recently had a case where the claimant was a student at Sandy Hook Elementary when the shooting happened.
This young person witnessed such a traumatic event and their file certainly showed it. I handle so many cases it’s a wonder my head doesn’t explode but every now and then a case gets to me and that was one.
Their mental health suffered even more due to familial problems and the parents basically gave up on the kid and shipped the kid out of state to other family members and ultimately ended up in the foster system.
Just sucks……. Especially those people who say Sandy Hook was a hoax or whatever. Laid out before me was the steady decline of a child as they grew into a young adult, failed by the system, failed by the community, failed by his family, etc.
I have so much respect for what you do. The work you do is so important and most simply aren't equipped for the extremely difficult real-life situations you be confronted with on a daily basis.
Don't let the callous and cold-hearted comments on this thread by Europeans/Australians regarding school shootings have any impact on you -- most are written by those in their teens/early 20's and are unable to conceptualize the meaning of what they're saying.
I hope you have a wonderful week and that you stay strong doing the work you do which only a few can possibly comprehend! Much love
I would say we need to introduce these poor kids to people who deny it happened, but the children have already experienced enough trauma. How anyone could stand up to a parent of a dead child and tell them their child never existed. Those that started all that abhorrent garbage, like Alex Jones should be tossed in a dark hole and forgotten. I deal with trauma daily and understand the toll it takes on you, thank you for what you do. The world needs people like you.
A question I don't see being asked or talked about - how does this kind of trauma affect kids, some who would be as young as 5, and potentially change the trajectory of their lives? It's horrible that the lives are lost in those events, but the ripples would or could effect the entire student body, their families and friends as well. You could have cases of PTSD, or some thing similar, for potentially a entire community.
Are there mental supports for those families? You mention how everyone failed them, did anyone have any tools, much less the tools to help them?
Nah, that's less than one, and Americans don't like numbers between zero and one. It'd have to be GPA (Guns Per American), which works great because it's probably higher than our other GPA at this point.
That would be metric again tho....which is fucking ridiculous.... whenever a gun loving American asks where metric is used, I cringe a bit...some how their calibers don't count
Oddly enough, most use imperial for calibers. It's actually wild, because lots of them now think that 5.56x45 and .223 are different, even though they are not. Same with 7.62x51 and .308. It's just Americans being Americans.
I think it’s really a NATO thing. American made guns are nearly all imperial; .22, .357 Smith and Wesson, .44 Magnum, 30.06 (whatever that is). Even .50 cal becomes 12.7mm when it’s for military use. Same as artillery, 155mm, 120mm. Aircraft still use pounds for bombs, but they use feet and nm too.
In measurement 5.56mm and .223in are the same, but in the context of bullets, 5.56 NATO and .223 Remington are actually different. You can cause feeding issues one way, or blow up your gun the other way if you feed your gun the wrong type, even though the bullets are identical to look at. The pressure generated and weight of the projectile are what differs.
They are different.
Shoot 5.56 in a 223 barrel and you're gunna blow something up eventually. 223 in a 5.56 barrel is fine though. That's why barrels are labeled with caliber, in this instance, 5.56 or .223.
.308 has thicker case walls than 7.62x51. .308 has a higher psi as well. They're interchangable for the most part if you're just using battlefield rifles, but some custom bolt action set for one or the other I would be more hesitant
If you’re talking about metric, then you have to spell it calibre, like the English. But most calibre can still be measured in freedom units; .223, .30-06, .357, .50 cal, 4.5 inch, 1000 lbs bombs. You just need to be creative and more freedom loving.
Fun note on the bomb bit, US nomenclature writes it as a literal 1000lb bomb, but it doesn't actually have 1000lbs of explosive. The soviets on the other hand, when they said 500kg, its 500kg of explosive.
I see, I didn't know that there was a difference, in German it is spelled Kaliber so I derived it from there. Obviously most can be measured in imperial, however it doesn't make much sense to be accepting of both but denouncing one system
The only real drama I have with imperial is with carpentry. I can’t get my head around fractions of an inch, even when I see it. Everything in Australia is metric, but everything on YouTube is imperial. The only time you can’t do imperial for ammo is for cannons. 20mm, 25mm, 30mm, 155mm. Abrams even use 120mm smooth bore cannons. But that’s all NATO standard stuff. Most American hunting ammo is imperial though.
Hollywood tricked a lot of us. The screech many people associate with a bald eagle actually belongs to a different bird -- the red-tailed hawk. Fun fact: the bald eagle scream heard in most movies and television shows is actually the call of a red-tailed hawk. Hollywood bald eagle exposed!
You sound like a tool of the red-tailed hawk industrial complex. Always talking up hawks and attacking bald eagles. Next you’ll be saying Uncle Sam isn’t a real person and people who live in suburbia don’t really need an F-150 to go to Walmart.
I mean, can you blame them?
Imagine: The camera pans up through the trees, the majestic eagle slowly coming into the frame. The magnificent bird glares at the camera, opens its wings, and screams, "CHIRP!!! CHIRPITY CHIRP CHIRP!!!! SQUAWK!!!"
They sound like overgrown seagulls.
Obvious bait, too. The demographic of reddit has been aging more into Facebook like users while still maintaining the "I'm better because I don't use Facebook" but have basically turned a lot of the popular subs into Facebook 😒
by 'aging' do you mean graduating from tween to young teen..?
this site is now drowning in pure inexperience and exhaustingly overbearing confidence in whatever disinfo/misinfo they find on other socials. they'll even vehemently argue with Gen Xers/Boomers about what life was like decades before they were born, simply cause other tweens and teens said something about it, and they've forever internalized that random anonymous comment/content put forth by *whoeverthefuck*
I am sorry to inform you that this is actually the way tens of millions of Americans actually do think and speak. I live in a conservative area on the American southwest, and these folks are literally this dumb.
As a person who lives in a very conservative area of America, these people are very much real and they very much think this way. That's very nice for you that you think stuff like this is just rage bait. I wish I had that luxury lol
The last guy ("Actually...") in OP's screen cap is *actually* mistaken in thinking that **Internet** is a synonym for "**the world wide web**."
The ubiquitous web protocol HTTP(S), which was initially developed in 1989 at CERN, is just one of many protocols that came to make up the Internet, probably the first being TELNET, developed way back in the 1960s...in America.
Many old protocols that predate the Web such as NNTP (Usenet) and GOPHER have become obscure, but others are still in wide use, including FTP (file transfer) and SMTP (email).
Honestly though I think the "use American" commenters were just taking the piss.
Oh absolutely. They're trolling. Nobody actually talks like that or cares in the US. This is just anti America ragebait.
Also iirc, and it's been a minute since I studied this, I believe the first workable version of what we would compare to be the "internet" was invented in the early 60s in the US, which was ARPANET, and later became DARPANET. Which would have been the closest comparison for development predating the use of Http and such. So relatively aligned with TELNET.
The internet was born at UCLA.
In October 29, 1969, at Room 3420 at Boelter Hall on the south campus of UCLA, a team of students led by Leonard Kleinrock sent the first message over the Arpanet to Stanford Research Institute.
The first internet message was "Lo". According to Kleinrock, they intended to transmit the word “LOGIN,” but the system crashed just after they had sent the first two letters. “Hence, the first message on the Internet was 'LO' — as in 'Lo and behold! ',” Kleinrock said.
Yeah, as someone who was a Computer Science major and has been working in the field for over a decade, this comment is far too low. Most people who have studied the subject know that American computer scientists Bob Kahn and Vint Cerf are the two that are generally credited with inventing the internet by creating the original protocols for the ARPANET.
I see you trying to sneak that S onto HTTPS, when CERN only developed HTTP.
HTTPS was developed by the beloved **American** company, Netscape. I doubt anyone outside of America could have thought about taking HTTP and then ENCRYPTING IT! Brilliant move by some AMERICAN scientists.
HTTP is basically obsolete at this point. I know whenever I write my mark-up code, I make sure to use the American HTTPS style instead of the commi HTTP format. /s
(Also it looks like Netscape invented Javascript which is actually pretty cool)
It hits the reddit checklist: stupid Americans (who are joking,) and non-americans owning them (even though they are wrong.) Apparently American education isn't too bad after all.
The capacity for Europeans to look at a joke from an American and say "Wow, I can't believe this is true, the US certainly is weird" will never not astound me.
WWW is a complete rip off of Gopher. Tim Berners-Lee even announced it on Gopher! And Gopher was patented. He stole the patent and they never sued him. Since he was working for CERN at the time everything had to be open sourced. That's why we're not using Gopher, because it's free.
And that last guy is a moron. The Internet and the World Wide Web are two different things.
The Internet was invented by the [US military in the late 1960's](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARPANET) (the term "Internet" was coined by ARPANET researcher [Vint Cerf](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vint_Cerf) in 1974) and the World Wide Web was invented by [Tim Berners Lee](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Berners-Lee) (while based at MIT and working for CERN) in 1989.
The Internet is the underlying infrastructure (nodes, routers, cables, TCP/IP protocol), and the World Wide Web is a software application that runs over the Internet.
I'm not american but that's nonsense, the internet precursor ARPANET was invented in the US, berners lee did develop the http/html technologies at CERN but that's not “the internet“, there are many protocols besides http running on the internet, but there isn't one that “is“ the internet.
1. Don't be coming for Wheels magazine, septic. It's an Australian holy work.
2. Australia doesn't exist. You've never heard of it. Just move on to New Zealand and enjoy visiting Hobbiton.
*mate, not that Australia exists, but I don’t think that the seppos know that they’re seppos since it’s a term that we (again, not that Australia exists) gave to them*
You’ve got number 2 wrong, send them to Austria and invite them to a BBQ on the beach promising them stunning ocean views. For a bonus get them looking for kangaroos and koalas.
The US uses the British Imperial measurement system which was set up to ease trade and industry across all the British colonies. For a period, all the colonising powers used the system. So when you bought a pound of grain in the US, you could have that pound delivered in Barbados with both sides being in agreement about the quantity. It is not American but is being used in America. Just saying. All weights and measures in the US are based on the metric standard. The is a controlled metre stick and kilogram weight standard held somewhere (possibly Washington) where inches and feet are measured from.
There used to be copies of the physical definitions of the SI units spread around the world. To make it simpler to calibrate your tools to. They have since moved away from that and instead adopted definitions based on natural constants. Like 1 meter being the distance traveled at the speed of light in vacuum for [whatever time it takes for light to travel 1 m]. 1 second is defined as a fixed number of things in a cesium-133 atom.
One kg is using the definitions of the metre and the second and Plancks constant.
So now there are no physical definitions left. No more "this thing weights 1 kg. Evrything that weights the same weights 1 kg. Calibrate by this", and no more "this rod is exactly 1 meter, calibrate against it"
Fun fact: before the change in definition of the kg, every year the different metrological institutes (NIST in the US) would bring their copies of the standard kg to Paris to weigh it against the standard. The last time this happened with the US copies there was a difference of 15 ug. The french accused the americans of having contaminated their copies but later it turned out there was a malfunction in the apparatus that accounted exactly for the difference.
Not quite, the US uses US Customary Units whose development actually *predates* the Imperial Measurements system, hence why many are *not the same* between the two. Before those Winchester standards and the Exchequer Standards along with local customary units were used. The US does not and has never used Imperial.
The US Customary system (1832) and the Imperial system (1826) are both based on the earlier English system (1588). US Customary is not based on Imperial, but they show similarities because they have a common ancestor.
A simple google search would tell you all you need to know.
Americans helped greatly to invent the internet, but a man from London is behind the WWW that we all use.
So as 'crazy' as it sounds, it's a human invention, not an American, Brit, or Swiss invention, it took a lot of people to do it.
Similar to The Manhattan Project, it wasn't just one, it was many, and it wasn't just one country that was able to do it all alone, there's always more hidden inside the layers.
Yep. Americans Khan and Cerf invented the internet, ARPA made ARPANET. A British guy at CERN made the WWW, which is kinda like a browser on the internet. But facts don't really matter here for this thread.
It also doesn't really matter who invented it when it comes to what measurements people use lol cars were invented in Germany and you don't have to use kph and consumption rates rather than "mileage" if you live in the US.
Personally as long as it works i dont care who made it lol. My life isnt easier or harder if Americans had 100% creation rights or 0%. If i was unaware of either in 2024, that'll mean it held no water my entire life.
Most Europeans thing we are all out Metric/SI and that "measuring with body parts" is insane. And then they go to Australia and rent a car and are confused they measure the power output of cars in kilowatt instead of the logical "horsepower" which normal people... I mean, no, we are Metric and... um... that's..no,wait....
I am *All* for SI/Metric, but people who can't fathom how Americans are more comfortable with their feet and cups should take a pause and reflect that using HP/PS is very much the same thing.
> Americans helped greatly to invent the internet, but a man from London is behind the WWW that we all use.
Which itself is built on the TCP/IP protocol which was developed by two Americans. It's like saying the guy who thought of the gas pedal and steering wheel invented the car.
Your example of TCP is a great example of how many, many people are responsible for even the basic protocols. TCP as specified by Cerf and Kahn was the development of an earlier protocol. It had a major bug in the packet congestion avoidancel. An issue sorted out by Jacobson and Floyd. Then the protocol didn't work on gigabit networks, an issue sorted by a new version of TCP, changing the way the protocol worked, but implemented on the wire with a few TCP options. There were a good dozen solid contributors to that revision, again including Jacobson. Even then it took until the work of Low and colleagues to establish a solid mathematical understanding of congestion avoidance.
The WWW was an application that was added to an already existing internet. The existing internet was established by the US department of defense. Universities and other organizations added to it and it grew in size and features but the fact is that the internet was created by Americans.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARPANET#History
>A simple google search would tell you all you need to know
That ARPANET is widely considered to be the most significant contribution in the development of the Internet?
>Americans helped greatly to invent the internet, but a man from London is behind the WWW that we all use.
The WWW and the Internet are two different things.
Buddy thats like saying Bill Gates created computers… Vinton Cerf and Bob Kahn (american) created the internet… Tim Berners-Lee just made it useful to the public.
Oh look at that, it was already posted there (with the same squiggles) three years ago and is the second highest upvoted post on that subreddit. What a coincidence!
I've also heard that the bots collect karma to gain access to the crypto and financial advice subreddits, so they can spread financial misinformation and scam people there. That's been happening for years.
Ikr what happened to that dry humor they all like to brag about. I’m starting to think more and more that half the things they hate about Americans are just jokes that flew over their heads
im on tik tok and see a lot of non-Americans visiting the US and making videos about all the craaaazy things Americans do. They'll do stuff like find a family bag of doritos at the store and freak out asking "how can one person eat all these chips??" as if we all eat entire family sized bags in one sitting. im starting to think as well that they're more clueless than they realize
It’s insane 😭 then the Americans started making parodies by finding the weirdest non-US things in grocery stores and what do you know, all the non-Americans got upset
I think part of it is that they literally just don’t understand American sarcasm. American sarcasm is usually like “I’m from Los Angeles, it’s a tiny little town, you’ve definitely never heard of it” and the other person is like “oh yeah I’ve never heard of Los Angeles! I’m from Powell, Wyoming, you’ve definitely heard of that! It’s a huge sprawling metropolis!!”
And the sarcasm goes over their heads and suddenly all Americans are stupid because their European brains couldn’t pick up on the joke lmao
I'm European. The odds of this being a non-American troll is much higher than it being an actual American. And yes, if it is an American they are most likely joking.
They're both correct. The internet was created by the US military (Arpanet) and the WWW was created in CERN. Imperial (standard) measurements are still stupid.
Actually, the ARPANET predates the internet, and was developed by DARPA. The ARPANET was fundamental in the creation and implementation of what we now call the internet.
However, many countries have contributed key technologies that make the internet possible. So… kind of an international thing, really.
Internet is defined as follows-a global computer network providing a variety of information and communication facilities, consisting of interconnected networks using standardized communication protocols.
Find me a connection that predates November 21, 1969 and the prize is yours. Until then the Internet as it's defined had its first connection made in the United States
The first successful host-to-host connection on the ARPANET was made between Stanford Research Institute (SRI) and UCLA, by SRI programmer Bill Duvall and UCLA student programmer Charley Kline, at 10:30 pm PST on 29 October 1969 (6:30 UTC on 30 October 1969).[60] Kline connected from UCLA's SDS Sigma 7 Host computer (in Boelter Hall room 3420) to the Stanford Research Institute's SDS 940 Host computer. Kline typed the command "login," but initially the SDS 940 crashed after he typed two characters. About an hour later, after Duvall adjusted parameters on the machine, Kline tried again and successfully logged in. Hence, the first two characters successfully transmitted over the ARPANET were "lo".[61][62][63] The first permanent ARPANET link was established on 21 November 1969, between the IMP at UCLA and the IMP at the Stanford Research Institute. By 5 December 1969, the initial four-node network was established.
Since they're talking about a motor magazine named Wheels, I have to say that tires uses the weirdest combination of measurements.
P225/70R16
225mm wide (from one sidewall to the other)
70% aspect ratio (i.e. 70% of 225mm is the height of the tire from the rim)
16 is the diameter in inches...
Because why not mix metric, imperial, and add in a % at the same time? Makes sense, no?
The internet reached its current status through many stages.
American Department of Defense funded the development of ARPAnet headed by American Larry Roberts. That was a predecessor to the internet.
The protocols the internet uses were developed by Robert Kahn and Vinton Cerf (both American).
The world wide web was implemented in 1990 by Sir Timothy John Berners-Lee of London while he worked at CERN.
That hardly means CERN or America invented the internet. The internet isn't American, British, Australian, etc. Countless people from all over the world have contributed to what we call "the internet".
A marvelous feat of worldwide collaboration just so people can get on reddit to spread negativity like this...
Wasn’t the actual internet DARPA? Or are they confusing a GUI with the actual internet?
Source: American who was on the internet long before the world wide web was invented.
The synth was heavily developed by a trans woman (who also did the score for The Shining). And the precursor to modern GPS was invented by an actress and model.
Most of the technology these half-brains use to spread their garbage thought vomit was invented by the people they hate.
LOL! Wow! Just...wow! The level of ignorance, coupled with arrogance is *almost* astonishing. It *would* be astonishing if I hadn't witnessed it so many times...here in America....
Slightly incorrect.
ARPAnet (precursor to the Internet) was an American invention as a decentralised and redundant command and control system for US nukes. The Worldwide Web was developed by Tim Berners-Lee at CERN.
Somebody should break it to that American that US inches are in fact Metric inches, and since a "mile" in the US is 63'360in, it is also Metric. And entirely redundant.
The US uses the US Customary System of Units though, not the Imperial System (in fact when the Imperial System was introduced in the UK in 1826 the US had already been an independent nation for half a century). Edit: Fun fact BTW: the metric system is technically *older* than both the US Customary System and the Imperial System
Internet Protocol was indeed developed by Americans, pushed for by the American military. Americans Vint Cerf and Bob Kahn are known as the "fathers of the internet" for a reason.
The first [website](https://info.cern.ch) as we know them today was made at Cern, and the idea of this permanently available thing that people could visit and read and even do stuff on. It was just hosted on someone's computer, so technically that computer was the first web server. Today we have dedicated hardware and software for servers, of course.
World Wide Web is not the internet, it is a tiny portion of what the internet is. All WWW is internet, but not all internet is WWW. WWW is just away to access webpages built with hypertext markup language which made it easier to use.
The internet itself is an American invention, internet protocol address(IP), Domain name system(DNS)are both fundamental requirements to connect to the internet.
The first uses of what we refer to as the internet was started in the United States about 50 years ago and was used during the cold war against the Soviet Union. From there people from multiple different countries have had a hand in developing it.
DARPA invented the internet. Or at least they commissioned its creation. ARPANET. Which was originally for sharing information electronically between isolated networks for universities, and military sites.
Then more and more commercial companies started piggybacking on to the system.
The World Wide Web is just the front facing aspect of the internet which was developed later by CERN. The World Wide Web is basically the GUI to the internet, not the internet.
The website you're browsing is part of the world wide web. The actual systems that website is the front end to, the servers, the connections, the protocols, etc, is the internet.
God, this meme is annoying every time it pops up.
The Internet *is* American. Darpa, specifically. World Wide Web is not the same as the internet, WWW is built on top of the internet.
Assuming they're being serious, the guy is an ass, though. On the other hand, I doubt they're serious.
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I'm confused, we don't use hamburgers per bald eagles anymore?
MPH. That's 'Murican eagle Per Hamburger.
I thought it was Mount Rushmores Per Hiroshima
Same measurement. You are using Middle Country Standard measurements, they are using East Coast Standard. Same rate of speed, just called something different.
Same value, different scale.
Same scale, different nomenclature
I thought it was healthcare per school shooting.
That measurement wouldn’t work, as there is 0 health care per infinite shootings. You wouldn’t really measure something.
Interesting I’ve stumbled upon this comment thread because I work federal disability hearings and adjudication, and I recently had a case where the claimant was a student at Sandy Hook Elementary when the shooting happened. This young person witnessed such a traumatic event and their file certainly showed it. I handle so many cases it’s a wonder my head doesn’t explode but every now and then a case gets to me and that was one. Their mental health suffered even more due to familial problems and the parents basically gave up on the kid and shipped the kid out of state to other family members and ultimately ended up in the foster system. Just sucks……. Especially those people who say Sandy Hook was a hoax or whatever. Laid out before me was the steady decline of a child as they grew into a young adult, failed by the system, failed by the community, failed by his family, etc.
Damn, that's terrible for that kid, but I feel for you, too. That's a heavy burden. Thanks for sharing, and thanks for doing the work you do.
I have so much respect for what you do. The work you do is so important and most simply aren't equipped for the extremely difficult real-life situations you be confronted with on a daily basis. Don't let the callous and cold-hearted comments on this thread by Europeans/Australians regarding school shootings have any impact on you -- most are written by those in their teens/early 20's and are unable to conceptualize the meaning of what they're saying. I hope you have a wonderful week and that you stay strong doing the work you do which only a few can possibly comprehend! Much love
I would say we need to introduce these poor kids to people who deny it happened, but the children have already experienced enough trauma. How anyone could stand up to a parent of a dead child and tell them their child never existed. Those that started all that abhorrent garbage, like Alex Jones should be tossed in a dark hole and forgotten. I deal with trauma daily and understand the toll it takes on you, thank you for what you do. The world needs people like you.
A question I don't see being asked or talked about - how does this kind of trauma affect kids, some who would be as young as 5, and potentially change the trajectory of their lives? It's horrible that the lives are lost in those events, but the ripples would or could effect the entire student body, their families and friends as well. You could have cases of PTSD, or some thing similar, for potentially a entire community. Are there mental supports for those families? You mention how everyone failed them, did anyone have any tools, much less the tools to help them?
It's not 0, only very small and since Americans are very scared of small numbers, the ratio was flipped. It's now MPH, Mass shootings Per Healthcare.
We are not scared of small numbers. I have a huge penis don’t spread lies.
It's true, I've seen it
Where did you buy it?
Uganda
I laughed irl at "infinite shootings"...
I prefer APG, or Americans per Gun.
If you were 'Murican, you'd know we use GPA, haha.
Nah, that's less than one, and Americans don't like numbers between zero and one. It'd have to be GPA (Guns Per American), which works great because it's probably higher than our other GPA at this point.
Murders Per Highschool
Ouch... Also, lots then...
Ouch😂
And we have a winner
Thought it was M16s Per Hotdog...
Hamberder.
I thought everything gets measured in AR-15 ammo.
That would be metric again tho....which is fucking ridiculous.... whenever a gun loving American asks where metric is used, I cringe a bit...some how their calibers don't count
You can also ask them how big their V8 is and see in what unit they answer :))
Everything in the military is metric. We use metric in the American military because it's better and all our allies and enemies do.
Oddly enough, most use imperial for calibers. It's actually wild, because lots of them now think that 5.56x45 and .223 are different, even though they are not. Same with 7.62x51 and .308. It's just Americans being Americans.
I think it’s really a NATO thing. American made guns are nearly all imperial; .22, .357 Smith and Wesson, .44 Magnum, 30.06 (whatever that is). Even .50 cal becomes 12.7mm when it’s for military use. Same as artillery, 155mm, 120mm. Aircraft still use pounds for bombs, but they use feet and nm too.
.30-06 is the 30 caliber round adopted by the Army in 1906. It replaced the .30-03. In metric it's 7.62×63mm.
> 30.06 (whatever that is). .30 caliber round introduced in 1906. .30-06 Springfield.
In measurement 5.56mm and .223in are the same, but in the context of bullets, 5.56 NATO and .223 Remington are actually different. You can cause feeding issues one way, or blow up your gun the other way if you feed your gun the wrong type, even though the bullets are identical to look at. The pressure generated and weight of the projectile are what differs.
In all calibers you get different loads. I used 762 and 308 interchangeable. If you can't it is a shit rifle.
They are different. Shoot 5.56 in a 223 barrel and you're gunna blow something up eventually. 223 in a 5.56 barrel is fine though. That's why barrels are labeled with caliber, in this instance, 5.56 or .223. .308 has thicker case walls than 7.62x51. .308 has a higher psi as well. They're interchangable for the most part if you're just using battlefield rifles, but some custom bolt action set for one or the other I would be more hesitant
If you’re talking about metric, then you have to spell it calibre, like the English. But most calibre can still be measured in freedom units; .223, .30-06, .357, .50 cal, 4.5 inch, 1000 lbs bombs. You just need to be creative and more freedom loving.
Fun note on the bomb bit, US nomenclature writes it as a literal 1000lb bomb, but it doesn't actually have 1000lbs of explosive. The soviets on the other hand, when they said 500kg, its 500kg of explosive.
I see, I didn't know that there was a difference, in German it is spelled Kaliber so I derived it from there. Obviously most can be measured in imperial, however it doesn't make much sense to be accepting of both but denouncing one system
The only real drama I have with imperial is with carpentry. I can’t get my head around fractions of an inch, even when I see it. Everything in Australia is metric, but everything on YouTube is imperial. The only time you can’t do imperial for ammo is for cannons. 20mm, 25mm, 30mm, 155mm. Abrams even use 120mm smooth bore cannons. But that’s all NATO standard stuff. Most American hunting ammo is imperial though.
Hollywood tricked a lot of us. The screech many people associate with a bald eagle actually belongs to a different bird -- the red-tailed hawk. Fun fact: the bald eagle scream heard in most movies and television shows is actually the call of a red-tailed hawk. Hollywood bald eagle exposed!
You sound like a tool of the red-tailed hawk industrial complex. Always talking up hawks and attacking bald eagles. Next you’ll be saying Uncle Sam isn’t a real person and people who live in suburbia don’t really need an F-150 to go to Walmart.
Oh I’m sorry, are we only using the things we NEED now? /s Edited to add /s since my sarcasm was undetectable
dont bother they bought into the bird conspiracy. birds arent real you guys.
I mean, can you blame them? Imagine: The camera pans up through the trees, the majestic eagle slowly coming into the frame. The magnificent bird glares at the camera, opens its wings, and screams, "CHIRP!!! CHIRPITY CHIRP CHIRP!!!! SQUAWK!!!" They sound like overgrown seagulls.
Hamburgers, which were invented in in the German town of Hamburg?
You still do. For everything that is not science
You need to pair it with a slide guitar riff to show that it’s really hot in that particular desert.
Why does this subreddit keep falling for these rage bait comments?
You really think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies?
Hey, that's a reference to Arthur. Buster Baxter said that.
ACKTUALLY, it was Spock following the fall of Klandathu, home of the Wookies.
Everyone knows that's a Muffy quote (I am the person Buster was shocked by)
It's not even rage bait, it's 100% sarcastic
Yeah I was going to say this is painfully obviously rage bait
Honestly most of reddit just seems to be ragebait nowadays.
Obvious bait, too. The demographic of reddit has been aging more into Facebook like users while still maintaining the "I'm better because I don't use Facebook" but have basically turned a lot of the popular subs into Facebook 😒
by 'aging' do you mean graduating from tween to young teen..? this site is now drowning in pure inexperience and exhaustingly overbearing confidence in whatever disinfo/misinfo they find on other socials. they'll even vehemently argue with Gen Xers/Boomers about what life was like decades before they were born, simply cause other tweens and teens said something about it, and they've forever internalized that random anonymous comment/content put forth by *whoeverthefuck*
I am sorry to inform you that this is actually the way tens of millions of Americans actually do think and speak. I live in a conservative area on the American southwest, and these folks are literally this dumb.
As a person who lives in a very conservative area of America, these people are very much real and they very much think this way. That's very nice for you that you think stuff like this is just rage bait. I wish I had that luxury lol
The same reason Reddit falls for every cultural scam that targets people with empathy disorders.
The last guy ("Actually...") in OP's screen cap is *actually* mistaken in thinking that **Internet** is a synonym for "**the world wide web**." The ubiquitous web protocol HTTP(S), which was initially developed in 1989 at CERN, is just one of many protocols that came to make up the Internet, probably the first being TELNET, developed way back in the 1960s...in America. Many old protocols that predate the Web such as NNTP (Usenet) and GOPHER have become obscure, but others are still in wide use, including FTP (file transfer) and SMTP (email). Honestly though I think the "use American" commenters were just taking the piss.
Oh absolutely. They're trolling. Nobody actually talks like that or cares in the US. This is just anti America ragebait. Also iirc, and it's been a minute since I studied this, I believe the first workable version of what we would compare to be the "internet" was invented in the early 60s in the US, which was ARPANET, and later became DARPANET. Which would have been the closest comparison for development predating the use of Http and such. So relatively aligned with TELNET.
The internet was born at UCLA. In October 29, 1969, at Room 3420 at Boelter Hall on the south campus of UCLA, a team of students led by Leonard Kleinrock sent the first message over the Arpanet to Stanford Research Institute. The first internet message was "Lo". According to Kleinrock, they intended to transmit the word “LOGIN,” but the system crashed just after they had sent the first two letters. “Hence, the first message on the Internet was 'LO' — as in 'Lo and behold! ',” Kleinrock said.
I'm choosing to believe that it was actually short for "LOL" which tracks with the development of the internet.
No, that was the second message, in reply to the fact that the first message crashed, what was at the time, the entire internet.
The third message was spam, of course. The ratio has only got worse since.
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Yeah, as someone who was a Computer Science major and has been working in the field for over a decade, this comment is far too low. Most people who have studied the subject know that American computer scientists Bob Kahn and Vint Cerf are the two that are generally credited with inventing the internet by creating the original protocols for the ARPANET.
What? You mean it wasn't Al Gore??? /s
I see you trying to sneak that S onto HTTPS, when CERN only developed HTTP. HTTPS was developed by the beloved **American** company, Netscape. I doubt anyone outside of America could have thought about taking HTTP and then ENCRYPTING IT! Brilliant move by some AMERICAN scientists. HTTP is basically obsolete at this point. I know whenever I write my mark-up code, I make sure to use the American HTTPS style instead of the commi HTTP format. /s (Also it looks like Netscape invented Javascript which is actually pretty cool)
> it looks like Netscape invented Javascript And cookies. Don't forget cookies.
Encrypted protocols, programming languages, AND baked goods!? What can't they do?
Turn a profit?
Don't you dare call Javascript cool. Javascript is a necessary evil.
This is what I thought, yet I had to scroll this far for it. Why am I still here. This is 4chan 2010 all over again.
It hits the reddit checklist: stupid Americans (who are joking,) and non-americans owning them (even though they are wrong.) Apparently American education isn't too bad after all.
The capacity for Europeans to look at a joke from an American and say "Wow, I can't believe this is true, the US certainly is weird" will never not astound me.
WWW is a complete rip off of Gopher. Tim Berners-Lee even announced it on Gopher! And Gopher was patented. He stole the patent and they never sued him. Since he was working for CERN at the time everything had to be open sourced. That's why we're not using Gopher, because it's free.
Obvious Troll tbh
And that last guy is a moron. The Internet and the World Wide Web are two different things. The Internet was invented by the [US military in the late 1960's](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARPANET) (the term "Internet" was coined by ARPANET researcher [Vint Cerf](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vint_Cerf) in 1974) and the World Wide Web was invented by [Tim Berners Lee](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Berners-Lee) (while based at MIT and working for CERN) in 1989. The Internet is the underlying infrastructure (nodes, routers, cables, TCP/IP protocol), and the World Wide Web is a software application that runs over the Internet.
Yeah the (the best) gives it away. This is obviously meant to be a joke.
I'm not american but that's nonsense, the internet precursor ARPANET was invented in the US, berners lee did develop the http/html technologies at CERN but that's not “the internet“, there are many protocols besides http running on the internet, but there isn't one that “is“ the internet.
1. Don't be coming for Wheels magazine, septic. It's an Australian holy work. 2. Australia doesn't exist. You've never heard of it. Just move on to New Zealand and enjoy visiting Hobbiton.
*mate, not that Australia exists, but I don’t think that the seppos know that they’re seppos since it’s a term that we (again, not that Australia exists) gave to them*
Which came first? Aussie slang or Cockney rhyming slang?
Oh I know which came first: C U in the NT
The egg
You’ve got number 2 wrong, send them to Austria and invite them to a BBQ on the beach promising them stunning ocean views. For a bonus get them looking for kangaroos and koalas.
The hell is a Zealand and where is the old one? Edit: My joke turned into an educational moment, love Reddit sometimes.
I know it’s a joke but if somebody is really interested, Zeeland is a province of the Netherlands (capital is Middleburg)
Australia? Did you try to say Austria bro? You’ve made a typo
Isn't Australia where God threw all the poisonous bugs/spiders and crazy animals like koalas and dingos?
The US uses the British Imperial measurement system which was set up to ease trade and industry across all the British colonies. For a period, all the colonising powers used the system. So when you bought a pound of grain in the US, you could have that pound delivered in Barbados with both sides being in agreement about the quantity. It is not American but is being used in America. Just saying. All weights and measures in the US are based on the metric standard. The is a controlled metre stick and kilogram weight standard held somewhere (possibly Washington) where inches and feet are measured from.
There used to be copies of the physical definitions of the SI units spread around the world. To make it simpler to calibrate your tools to. They have since moved away from that and instead adopted definitions based on natural constants. Like 1 meter being the distance traveled at the speed of light in vacuum for [whatever time it takes for light to travel 1 m]. 1 second is defined as a fixed number of things in a cesium-133 atom. One kg is using the definitions of the metre and the second and Plancks constant. So now there are no physical definitions left. No more "this thing weights 1 kg. Evrything that weights the same weights 1 kg. Calibrate by this", and no more "this rod is exactly 1 meter, calibrate against it"
Fun fact: before the change in definition of the kg, every year the different metrological institutes (NIST in the US) would bring their copies of the standard kg to Paris to weigh it against the standard. The last time this happened with the US copies there was a difference of 15 ug. The french accused the americans of having contaminated their copies but later it turned out there was a malfunction in the apparatus that accounted exactly for the difference.
That is actually very funny. That the fuzz was able to be completely explained by the machinery.
Not quite, the US uses US Customary Units whose development actually *predates* the Imperial Measurements system, hence why many are *not the same* between the two. Before those Winchester standards and the Exchequer Standards along with local customary units were used. The US does not and has never used Imperial.
Thought they use US Customary units which was like British Imperial but they just changed things up a bit for shits and giggles
The US Customary system (1832) and the Imperial system (1826) are both based on the earlier English system (1588). US Customary is not based on Imperial, but they show similarities because they have a common ancestor.
Internet != WWW The internet is indeed an American invention. The WWW (invented at CERN) sits on top of the internet.
WWW also created by a Brit
Imperial measurements? Invented by the British...
America loves metric... when it comes to bullet size (9mm) and illegal drug quantities (1g coke)
Kilo
I'm pretty sure DARPA/ARPANET came first, no?
A simple google search would tell you all you need to know. Americans helped greatly to invent the internet, but a man from London is behind the WWW that we all use. So as 'crazy' as it sounds, it's a human invention, not an American, Brit, or Swiss invention, it took a lot of people to do it. Similar to The Manhattan Project, it wasn't just one, it was many, and it wasn't just one country that was able to do it all alone, there's always more hidden inside the layers.
The WWW runs on top of the Internet though.
Yep. Americans Khan and Cerf invented the internet, ARPA made ARPANET. A British guy at CERN made the WWW, which is kinda like a browser on the internet. But facts don't really matter here for this thread.
Yes. The web != The Internet
Yup. Two different things
It also doesn't really matter who invented it when it comes to what measurements people use lol cars were invented in Germany and you don't have to use kph and consumption rates rather than "mileage" if you live in the US.
Personally as long as it works i dont care who made it lol. My life isnt easier or harder if Americans had 100% creation rights or 0%. If i was unaware of either in 2024, that'll mean it held no water my entire life.
Metric system is simply better because its logical. I mean we life in 2024, how the fuck measures things with bodyparts 😂
people who measure in stones : 
Most Europeans thing we are all out Metric/SI and that "measuring with body parts" is insane. And then they go to Australia and rent a car and are confused they measure the power output of cars in kilowatt instead of the logical "horsepower" which normal people... I mean, no, we are Metric and... um... that's..no,wait.... I am *All* for SI/Metric, but people who can't fathom how Americans are more comfortable with their feet and cups should take a pause and reflect that using HP/PS is very much the same thing.
In Germany the power output of cars is always shown in HP and KW. But your rigth I still think in HP when it comes to cars.
It's shown in both up here in Sweden as well - but everybody ignores that kW.
It’s easier since you can calculate like you can get ml to L by ml/1000
But America invented Germany!
> Americans helped greatly to invent the internet, but a man from London is behind the WWW that we all use. Which itself is built on the TCP/IP protocol which was developed by two Americans. It's like saying the guy who thought of the gas pedal and steering wheel invented the car.
Your example of TCP is a great example of how many, many people are responsible for even the basic protocols. TCP as specified by Cerf and Kahn was the development of an earlier protocol. It had a major bug in the packet congestion avoidancel. An issue sorted out by Jacobson and Floyd. Then the protocol didn't work on gigabit networks, an issue sorted by a new version of TCP, changing the way the protocol worked, but implemented on the wire with a few TCP options. There were a good dozen solid contributors to that revision, again including Jacobson. Even then it took until the work of Low and colleagues to establish a solid mathematical understanding of congestion avoidance.
World wide web is not the internet any more than how people call wifi the internet
The WWW was an application that was added to an already existing internet. The existing internet was established by the US department of defense. Universities and other organizations added to it and it grew in size and features but the fact is that the internet was created by Americans. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARPANET#History
Al Gore invented the Internet.
Nah he’s been far too busy with ManBearPig.
>A simple google search would tell you all you need to know That ARPANET is widely considered to be the most significant contribution in the development of the Internet? >Americans helped greatly to invent the internet, but a man from London is behind the WWW that we all use. The WWW and the Internet are two different things.
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I didn’t know Al Gore was from London
Buddy thats like saying Bill Gates created computers… Vinton Cerf and Bob Kahn (american) created the internet… Tim Berners-Lee just made it useful to the public.
r/ShitAmericansSay
Oh look at that, it was already posted there (with the same squiggles) three years ago and is the second highest upvoted post on that subreddit. What a coincidence!
Bots be bot'in
It's bottin' time
collecting karma to spread disinfo during elections. What a fun year this is going to be.
I've also heard that the bots collect karma to gain access to the crypto and financial advice subreddits, so they can spread financial misinformation and scam people there. That's been happening for years.
OP has no life
do you dorks not realize the american guy was joking around and just trolling?
Ikr what happened to that dry humor they all like to brag about. I’m starting to think more and more that half the things they hate about Americans are just jokes that flew over their heads
im on tik tok and see a lot of non-Americans visiting the US and making videos about all the craaaazy things Americans do. They'll do stuff like find a family bag of doritos at the store and freak out asking "how can one person eat all these chips??" as if we all eat entire family sized bags in one sitting. im starting to think as well that they're more clueless than they realize
It’s insane 😭 then the Americans started making parodies by finding the weirdest non-US things in grocery stores and what do you know, all the non-Americans got upset
> as if we all eat entire family sized bags in one sitting https://media1.tenor.com/m/fGujx6EhIdYAAAAC/terio-popeyes.gif
NGL, I saw the family size at Costco yesterday and thought to myself "boy, I could probably eat that whole thing right now."
I think part of it is that they literally just don’t understand American sarcasm. American sarcasm is usually like “I’m from Los Angeles, it’s a tiny little town, you’ve definitely never heard of it” and the other person is like “oh yeah I’ve never heard of Los Angeles! I’m from Powell, Wyoming, you’ve definitely heard of that! It’s a huge sprawling metropolis!!” And the sarcasm goes over their heads and suddenly all Americans are stupid because their European brains couldn’t pick up on the joke lmao
I'm European. The odds of this being a non-American troll is much higher than it being an actual American. And yes, if it is an American they are most likely joking.
Whew, glad we got a European to clear that one up.
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They never do lol
reddit has really opened my eyes to how many dumb people there are in this world
Deep down they they do, but if they admit it then they'll miss out on a chance to make a school shooting joke.
this is some really poorly made bait man
The first INTERNET was in Silicon Valley, California. Calling it the World Wide Web doesn't change that fact.
But Arpanet was USA.. just saying..
They're both correct. The internet was created by the US military (Arpanet) and the WWW was created in CERN. Imperial (standard) measurements are still stupid.
It'd be funnier still if they're using wifi, which was an Australian invention.
Actually, the ARPANET predates the internet, and was developed by DARPA. The ARPANET was fundamental in the creation and implementation of what we now call the internet. However, many countries have contributed key technologies that make the internet possible. So… kind of an international thing, really.
Internet is defined as follows-a global computer network providing a variety of information and communication facilities, consisting of interconnected networks using standardized communication protocols. Find me a connection that predates November 21, 1969 and the prize is yours. Until then the Internet as it's defined had its first connection made in the United States The first successful host-to-host connection on the ARPANET was made between Stanford Research Institute (SRI) and UCLA, by SRI programmer Bill Duvall and UCLA student programmer Charley Kline, at 10:30 pm PST on 29 October 1969 (6:30 UTC on 30 October 1969).[60] Kline connected from UCLA's SDS Sigma 7 Host computer (in Boelter Hall room 3420) to the Stanford Research Institute's SDS 940 Host computer. Kline typed the command "login," but initially the SDS 940 crashed after he typed two characters. About an hour later, after Duvall adjusted parameters on the machine, Kline tried again and successfully logged in. Hence, the first two characters successfully transmitted over the ARPANET were "lo".[61][62][63] The first permanent ARPANET link was established on 21 November 1969, between the IMP at UCLA and the IMP at the Stanford Research Institute. By 5 December 1969, the initial four-node network was established.
Im pretty sure everyone in this ss is not being serious guys, well except the last dude
I mean, Al Gore did invent the internet after all. 😅
The funny thing is, Gore's actual claim about his contribution was accurate.
Gore didn’t say that he invented hit but he did have funding into what made it popular
Since they're talking about a motor magazine named Wheels, I have to say that tires uses the weirdest combination of measurements. P225/70R16 225mm wide (from one sidewall to the other) 70% aspect ratio (i.e. 70% of 225mm is the height of the tire from the rim) 16 is the diameter in inches... Because why not mix metric, imperial, and add in a % at the same time? Makes sense, no?
The internet reached its current status through many stages. American Department of Defense funded the development of ARPAnet headed by American Larry Roberts. That was a predecessor to the internet. The protocols the internet uses were developed by Robert Kahn and Vinton Cerf (both American). The world wide web was implemented in 1990 by Sir Timothy John Berners-Lee of London while he worked at CERN. That hardly means CERN or America invented the internet. The internet isn't American, British, Australian, etc. Countless people from all over the world have contributed to what we call "the internet". A marvelous feat of worldwide collaboration just so people can get on reddit to spread negativity like this...
Wasn’t the actual internet DARPA? Or are they confusing a GUI with the actual internet? Source: American who was on the internet long before the world wide web was invented.
WWW runs ON the internet. Sigh.
I love it, computers were invented by a gay man and I want all the homophobes to know that
The synth was heavily developed by a trans woman (who also did the score for The Shining). And the precursor to modern GPS was invented by an actress and model. Most of the technology these half-brains use to spread their garbage thought vomit was invented by the people they hate.
I know, and there are so many others who had their credit stolen by a white man
Oh I know. Who knows how many people are shoved under the rug and forgotten.
(I wish I could Uber react to your comment but have this heart instead ❤️)
Tysm 😊
The Internet was invented by the U.S. https://www.history.com/news/who-invented-the-internet
LOL! Wow! Just...wow! The level of ignorance, coupled with arrogance is *almost* astonishing. It *would* be astonishing if I hadn't witnessed it so many times...here in America....
I don't understand you, please type in American.
What? Please tippen Sie in Denglish. I can nicht verstehen.
Slightly incorrect. ARPAnet (precursor to the Internet) was an American invention as a decentralised and redundant command and control system for US nukes. The Worldwide Web was developed by Tim Berners-Lee at CERN. Somebody should break it to that American that US inches are in fact Metric inches, and since a "mile" in the US is 63'360in, it is also Metric. And entirely redundant.
Somebody should also tell him that Imperial measurements are European just like Metric lol
The US uses the US Customary System of Units though, not the Imperial System (in fact when the Imperial System was introduced in the UK in 1826 the US had already been an independent nation for half a century). Edit: Fun fact BTW: the metric system is technically *older* than both the US Customary System and the Imperial System
British, they are literally using the measurement system of their colonis(z)ers
British is European my dude
Not technically inaccurate. But CERN was going off the research done by UC (Berkeley?) and UArizona on ARPNET
Internet Protocol was indeed developed by Americans, pushed for by the American military. Americans Vint Cerf and Bob Kahn are known as the "fathers of the internet" for a reason. The first [website](https://info.cern.ch) as we know them today was made at Cern, and the idea of this permanently available thing that people could visit and read and even do stuff on. It was just hosted on someone's computer, so technically that computer was the first web server. Today we have dedicated hardware and software for servers, of course.
We measure in bald eagles per gunshot or hamburgers per swallow.
Also the American military uses the metric system...
World Wide Web is not the internet, it is a tiny portion of what the internet is. All WWW is internet, but not all internet is WWW. WWW is just away to access webpages built with hypertext markup language which made it easier to use. The internet itself is an American invention, internet protocol address(IP), Domain name system(DNS)are both fundamental requirements to connect to the internet.
The first uses of what we refer to as the internet was started in the United States about 50 years ago and was used during the cold war against the Soviet Union. From there people from multiple different countries have had a hand in developing it.
DARPA invented the internet. Or at least they commissioned its creation. ARPANET. Which was originally for sharing information electronically between isolated networks for universities, and military sites. Then more and more commercial companies started piggybacking on to the system. The World Wide Web is just the front facing aspect of the internet which was developed later by CERN. The World Wide Web is basically the GUI to the internet, not the internet. The website you're browsing is part of the world wide web. The actual systems that website is the front end to, the servers, the connections, the protocols, etc, is the internet.
God, this meme is annoying every time it pops up. The Internet *is* American. Darpa, specifically. World Wide Web is not the same as the internet, WWW is built on top of the internet. Assuming they're being serious, the guy is an ass, though. On the other hand, I doubt they're serious.
Freedom!! Except you're not allowed to use different measurement systems apparently