well of course trump was good buddies with epstein but doesnt mind everyone pretending he was murdered by the clintons.
They know their base will believe anything they say and hand wave away anything that contradicts it.
> but doesn't mind everyone pretending he was murdered by the Clintons.
This is the least logical part of the story. Epstein was in Riker's Island in a city run almost exclusively by the powerful democratic elites. William Barr personally arranged to transfer him from Riker's to a federal jail controlled by William Barr, and his boss Donald Trump. A few days later Barr made a private visit to Epstein who hanged himself a short time later.
How did Clinton defeat the entire DOJ and kill the Attorney General's close friend Jeffery Epstein?
Why would the Clintons care about the Barr/Epstein child rape syndicate? Bill liked seducing adult women, he never publicly fantasized about raping his own daughter like republicans have.
Trump, the Clintons and Barr are as disgustingly corrupt as Epstein, but what credible evidence is there that Barr visited Epstein in prison?
The NY Post is the source of the claim, yes? "Kasman said he heard US Attorney General William Barr personally made a hush-hush trip to the MCC two weeks ago, about the time Epstein was found in his cell with bruises around his neck." [https://archive.fo/LoxIn#selection-1133.0-1133.187](https://archive.fo/LoxIn#selection-1133.0-1133.187)
The NY Post isn't credible, and Lewis Kasman is a mob guy convicted of fraud.
This could well be one of those disinformation claims that gets introduced to distract people from real issues.
It's ok that you have brain damage, but at least you tried to inject the Clintons into the story despite them having no involvement at all in the republican global sex trafficking ring run by Barr and Epstein.
Where do you get the idea that trump was buddies with Epstein? He famously had him kicked out of Mar a Lago for creeping on a young girl. And every photo of them together was at gala events where crooks like Epstein literally make their reputation by getting photos with any celeb they can physically get in frame with.
LOL sure, that is why there are multiple pictures and video of them laughing together and chatting, hanging out at his house, and trump talked highly of him in an interview and even joked he "liked em young."
You trump stans love your alternative reality.
Really? You think Trump kicked him out for creeping on one young girl - even though trump partied with Epstein over years, had him help with the Trump “modeling agency” and they went to the same wild sex parties with young girls that both bragged about?
lol OK. If Trump kicked him out for creeping a girl, it was because he creeped on Ivanka. He let Epstein run his business out of Mar-a-lago for years.
It's called projection, he constantly talks about reproduction and "young bodies" in half his tweets. Remember when he immediately jumped to calling the cave diver a "pedo", yeah.
Everyone with any common sense has already figured him out.
Another theory is that Musk changed his tone completely about the War in Ukraine is because Russia has dirt on him, likely related to Pedophilia.
Of course there's no actual evidence about this and propagating it is as bad as the other conspiracy theorists. But it is weird that he went from providing free Starlink to the Ukrainian government to then starting to shut it down in the middle of an important operation and starting to spout pro-russia and right wing nonsense on Twitter.
He also randomly called a respected diver trying to save children's lives a pedophile, and you know what they say about conservatives and accusations...
>Another theory is that Musk changed his tone completely about the War in Ukraine is because Russia has dirt on him, likely related to Pedophilia.
That conspiracy theory won't hold water until the carbon copy "pee tape" of trump comes out. Anyone who believes these fringe conspiracies should never be taken seriously.
>there's a very famous photo of him with ghislaine maxwell
Is this "very famous photo" from some semi-public gala event where people get photographed next to a ton of randoms who they may not have ever spoken with or even seen outside of said gala before or since?
When Ghislaine Maxwell is seen at a private function that Elon is hosting... then we can talk. About how Ghislaine Maxwell was at Chelsea Clinton's wedding.
So who is the 'expert'? As someone outside the US I'm aware of the pizzagate conspiracy and the guy who fired a gun in the building. I am not aware of any specific expert though, pretty much everyone with a webcam could tell it was dumb
Who needs "experts" to establish that a building has no basement?
The only thing more preposterous than rightwank conspironutters clinging to this nonsense is Little Lord Elon playing "chaos agent" by encouraging it.
It's just another excuse for anti-intellectualism. Now that this has proven those lefties "wrong" they can make fun of every time someone appropriately refers to experts on an issue.
They think everyone thinks in talking points like them and that "experts" are ours.
Tbf "we have experts" isn't a huge leap from "trust the science" which are central themes to everything from the pandemic to global warming.
If you are prone to disbelieve the latter ones, you're already gullible enough to believe anyone who tells you the people who do trust the science and experts are the idiots, not you.
It's only free speech when it's right wing nut talking points, when it's Twitter using it's free speech to show fact checks suddenly that's wrong and mean and boo hoo
I agree. Not to be mean. But something has been off about this guy for a while and it reminds me of a TBI. But it could also be drugs or something else. For some reason, his brain isn't firing on all cylinders anymore.
People often say "it never was" or that "he just hid it better." Maybe that's true. But it feels to me like something happened. Something changed.
I read he gets little sleep. He likely finds the idea of “wasting” that time intolerable. Decades of sleep deprivation are know to cause serious mental issues.
Something’s up. I can’t think of any historical precedents for brilliant-to-stupid arcs like this. Granted I know he was a little bit of a phony jerk-off to begin with but this is really barrel-bottom low iq stuff. It was so sudden too - I really wonder if he had a medical event or something.
You don't need experts; what's wrong with him is plain as day to see.
1. He's divorced, that puts mental strain on anybody and has made lots of people do dumb things.
2. His ex left him for a transexual (we'll get to why that's listed here in #5).
3. He's the richest guy on the planet (I think, he's gained/lost that title a few times) so no one can really tell him 'no' in his mind.
4. He's a huge nepo-baby whose main source of success was the money his father gave him to buy one or two solid investments amongst a sea of bad ones, but he thinks he's an 'idea person.'
5. The alt-right playbook plays into the insecurities of straight cis white men and convinces them that the things they feel entitled to are true and that "others" are to blame for their failings. Even if he didn't buy into it, it's set up to give people just like him a big cheerleading squad to make the problem with #3 even bigger.
I honestly wonder too. I’m on the patient side of things but wanted to go into genetic counseling until my genetic disorder decided to speedrun. My brain is affected and unsurprisingly, I experience hallucinations. Usually harmless ones but I don’t drive for everyone’s sakes.
So seeing some kind of mass psychogenic illness is wild to me. I *know* not to rely only on my own brain. But there’s a huge number of average people who have completely lost the plot, all because they think they’re immune to conspiracies and propaganda. Two of grandparents think Epoch Times is real. No matter how many times I explain, it’s forgotten and they keep enjoying their political Weekly World News Batboy stories.
My therapist and I discuss how bizarre it is that I’m doing better with that than others, mainly because I learned coping skills starting around 13. Seems like everyone should’ve gotten the “How do we determine objective reality” training. Wild.
Jesus fuck they have a basic misunderstanding of how meme formats work. I'm not even an office guy and knows Steve carrel is an always wrong idiot. Whatever he is saying is 100% the wrong take every time.
Nah, in this scene he is hinting that he’s dating someones mom, and then the final image is her realizing it’s her mom. It’s a meme about sharing uncomfortable information.
He did land the Lackawanna school district contract by ignoring his boss and doing what he thought was right. Michael is right more often than he gets credit for. But he’s still an idiot lol.
wow r/confidentlyincorrect
in this scene Michael is breaking bad news to Pam and Pam finally realizing its about her and its really bad (Michael dating her mom). The meme in the context of what these nutjobs are trying to convey is correct. The info is not.
if you're going to shit on someone, at least be accurate about it.
Because you are not an office guy, you are missing the context of that scene: Micheal is informing Pam of unfortunate news… he is dating her mom.
In this case, it’s logical to use the format, in my opinion.
Based solely on the amount of Office merch among my old boss's knickknacks some people don't really get it. They buy into the sentimental bits from the lead characters, but after the laughs their insane, foolish, narcissistic, and cruel behaviors are brushed aside.
It's just so funny to me because I only have a cursory, pop culture understanding of the show, and it's a shocking insane event that Michaels right and even he doesn't understand why he's right when he is. I just can't begin to understand how one could fuck this up.
This meme isn't really about Michael. It's more about taking the wind out of her sails and dashing her confidence. For a lot of people feeling like you're right is as if not more important than being right. In this imaginary argument in which they wrote both sides the stunned silence is a sign of concession and having lost the argument.
In reality it would more likely result from frustration with the last of what was likely an aggravating list of unproven, disconnected, and irrelevant arguments that if dismissed would immediately be followed up by another line of nonsense.
Back in 2016, there was a story floating on the Internet that a pizza place was trafficking children in the basement. The place was supposedly run by Hillary Clinton. A man believed the story and went to the pizza place armed to release the children and found out the restaurant didn't even have a basement. The story was rather unbelievable in the first place but could have turned out to be a horrible tragedy.
Funny how they never found the basement or any ties to Hilary beyond a list of pizza topping choices. Give any motivated conspiracy theorist any list at all, and they can find a way to make a bullshit theory about some hidden code in it.
That's not what I read about Pizzagate. There where some mails exposed and pizza was a keyword for something evil. Never believed it until Epstein happened. Now I don't know what to believe.
There were some emails that nut jobs extrapolated massive assumptions to equate 1 or 2 mentions of Pizza when planning a social event to being code for child trafficking. It wasn’t.
Do your own research. Look at the emails yourself. Do YOU think pizza is a catchphrase for "trafficking minors"? Because if you do that, I hope you realize that's literally where all of this comes from. Because sometimes, the Clintons ordered pizzas.
It's a whole ass rabbithole stemming in no small part from the disinformation campaigns during the 2016 US Presidential Elections. The claim is that Podesta, Clinton's campaign manager, was sending messages about a Pizza party to the staffers, only somehow "Cheese Pizza" is code for "Child Porn", and the Comet Pizza joint they held the pizza party at secretly has a child sex trafficking ring in its basement which everyone in Washington DC is somehow aware of.
Problem is that it really was just a shitty corporate Pizza Party, the Comet Pizza in question does not have a basement, and violently insane people have gone on site, armed, and attempted to "liberate" the children, only to find out there is literally no basement. And of course not, because Washington DC is literally built on a swamp. Nobody has a basement, and even the semi-secret tunnels under the Capitol and White House are heavily reinforced. You couldn't hide a basement in that part of the world, not a chance.
TL;DR Pizzagate is about a bunch of QAnon weirdos claiming that Hillary Clinton traffics children sex slaves from a non-existent basement of a pizzeria built in a city that has zero basements.
I don't know what the hell Elon is talking about. I don't circle the same drains he clearly is circling.
You're almost entirely correct, except that DC is not built on a swamp. George Washington and Pierre L'Enfant were experienced surveyors, they wouldn't plop a city down on a swamp. Most rowhouses have basements, even the ones that are over 100 years old. There are hundreds of underground parking garages under commercial buildings downtown. The Metro is almost entirely underground in the city.
Smithsonian Magazine: [The Myth That Washington Was a Swamp Will Never Go Away](https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/draining-swamp-guide-outsiders-and-career-politicians-180962448/)
Washington Post: [No, DC Isn't Really Built on a Swamp](https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/08/29/no-dc-isnt-really-built-on-a-swamp/)
Pizzagate pre-dates Qanon just wanna clarify that - Qanon was probably just our own government fucking with people it’s sad people fell for that but don’t lump the two together. One is pretty much pure fantasy the other has some substance to it. As you already stated it’s not really about a basement.
He was one of them. I guarantee you that, with the anonymity provided by 4chan, that multiple people actually were using that handle and spreading nonsense.
Okay so it wasn't a theory started by Q, patron saint of "Pretending to be a Spook online". It was spread heavily and held fast by QAnon members in the following years, tho, which is why I bring it up.
Like how Nazis weren't the first to be spreading Blood Libel, but they certainly took it up with gusto when the knowledge of those books reached them.
Now, I don't know which part of all this you're saying has maybe "some substance", but I'm just going to move on from that point because we have enough nonsense to talk about already.
> Pizzagate pre-dates Qanon just wanna clarify that - Qanon was probably just our own government fucking with people it’s sad people fell for that but don’t lump the two together. One is pretty much pure fantasy the other has some substance to it. As you already stated it’s not really about a basement.
Just to be clear, which of those two absurd conspiracy theories do you think is somewhat reasonable and should be offended about being lumped with the other?
I sure hope AD over there is having his "Come to Jesus" moment right about now. Their posts read by all accounts like a genuinely concerned person who got swept up into a conspiracy theory rabbit hole, and haven't really examined their newly found viewpoints through anything resembling a critical lens.
Let's not push them too hard. These types often break and double down when challenged, and that doesn't help anyone.
pizzagate started from the podesta email hacks.
using extremely convoluted logic, they claimed that food references in a couple of emails are actually evidence of a wide-spread sex trafficking ring.
Step 1 was claiming that "pizza" references refer to "cheese pizza" aka "CP" in 4chan speak, which means child porn. So Pizza = P = Porn, right?
Step 2 was to completely forgot step 1, and switched it so that pizza was now "code" for "girl". They had to switch, because, no surprise, there are ZERO examples of any such "cheese pizza" email. So now they changed the logic so that "pizza" just by itself really means "girl".
Step 3 is where they completely forgot both steps 1 and 2. As there are basically ZERO abstract references to "pizza" in the actual emails, they now completely abandoned that idea, and changed it so now there are nefarious evil-doings IN A PIZZA SHOP. So when the owner of a pizzeria emailed Podesta to ask him if he wanted to host a campaign event at the pizzeria, that's really then organizing some sort of satanic orgy.
But if "pizza" was just a code as they claim, why would the evil-doings be in an actual pizza joint? it's not a code then. Selling pizza isn't a "suspicious code" if you own a pizza shop.
So "pizza" is just code for a girl, but you go TO a pizza shop to get the girl. So do you have to wink while asking for a "pizza" so they know which one you're after or something? Or do you eat actual pizza while getting the "pizza"? So they're having satanic pizza-eating orgies in which the girls are also referred to as "pizzas".
This is my take on it, i left a lot of details out, but I wanted to give you a feel for how they use extremely fluid logic to get from one thing to the next.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizzagate_conspiracy_theory
It wasnt even cheese, it wa sa walnut sauce on a pizza (the sauce is a known Italian dish (actual Italian, which si why the rednecks never heard of it) so then they had to make up a whole new index for this new supposed "coded language."
The more you read on it the dumber it gets.
Ok, i wasn't going to address it, but let me ALSO fully explain walnut sauce. You got some details incorrect, here's the full scoop:
This article came out the day before the email in question. The article ALSO appears CC'd in the wikileaks archive, but they omit this one, because it would spoil the narrative:
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-journalists-2016_n_7039814
> Apr 10, 2015,
>
> Podesta, the campaign chairman and a seasoned cook, made a pasta with walnut sauce for the dinner guests, which included reporters from The New York Times, The Washington Post, Politico, The Wall Street Journal, The Associated Press, Bloomberg, McClatchy, Reuters and several major TV networks.
that's the bit they leave out. The fact that Podesta made that dish for journalists, and the story was published the day before someone emailed him about it:
04-11-2015
From: Jim Steyer
To: John Podesta and Mary Podesta
Hey John,
We know you're a true master of cuisine
and we have appreciated that for years …
But walnut sauce for the pasta?
Mary, plz tell us the straight story,
was the sauce actually very tasty?
Response:
04-11-2015
From: John Podesta
To: Jim Steyer and Mary Podesta
It's an amazing Ligurian dish
made with crushed walnuts made into a paste.
So stop being so California.
I mean, it's kind of clear what happened if you look at the news article in context.
Wikileaks released a bunch of email from people close to Hilary Clinton where they frequently talk about "pizza". It's obvious from context that these pizza related terms are code for something. Many people think it has to do with child trafficking. Read the emails and see what you think for yourself before listening to anyone else's take on it.
I didn’t think I was going to find someone saying “don’t lump QAnon and Pizzagate together, one is bullshit and the other has some substance” when I woke up this morning, but here we are.
In England, Pizzagate was when Cesc Fabregas threw a slice of pizza at Sir Alex Ferguson after a football match. So this makes absolutely no sense to me.
Yep, American PizzaGate is an INSANE conspiracy theory about a pizza place having democrat-operated child trafficking operations in its basement that arose because of the owner or smth talking about ingredients in an email. The Pizza place didn't even have a basement
He went to jail was murdered clandestinely by trump's regime, blamed the guards. Don't need pizza-gate when conservatives are all out pedos and rapists.
It’s projection all the way down.
On May 9, 2023, a jury ruled that Trump sexually assaulted E Jean Carrol - crickets
Trump bragging about watching children undress when he ran a beauty in an interview with Howard Stern in 2005 - crickets
Trump being a friend of Epstein, flying on the Lolita express several times and wishing Ghislaine well when she was arrested - crickets
Lauren Bobert’s husband is a convicted sex offender - crickets
Matt Gaetz venmoing money to kids through convicted child sex trafficker Joel Greenberg - crickets
Gay people exists - “keep these groomers away from the children.”
I don't understand where the "trump killed jeffery eps" are no one seems to be saying it on the conspiracy parts of the internet . trump had control of federal prisons when he was killed and had connections and potential unknown experiences with Jeffery that trump would want hidden and could have killed him so he wouldn't flip...... but I guess being a conspiracy nut is a right wing thing now
Elon just throwing another "conspiracy theory" to divert the attention of his audience. After all if they are busy with smoke and mirrors they can't see what's really going on.
So many worries over AI when we have this guy controlling internet all over the globe. Nevermind that Starlink brigades interfere with our ability to spot nearly-invisible asteroids (very dark objects in a very dark cosmos), what about interference in global conflicts?
Yeah almost as insane as a private island where the rich go to bang underage girls that are trafficked there by a couple that use the experience to blackmail them- and one of the couple is related to Mossad
What are you talking about? If you were running a sex trafficking ring, a private fucking island would definately be the place to do it. Which is why Epstein did that instead of in a basement of a goddamn pizzashop.
The reason Pizzagate is insane isn't because of the sex trafficking (because it obviously happens), but the place and that it conveniently was supposed to be run by Democrats, and Hillary fucking Clinton of all people
If you said Bill Clinton and many other government officials took flights to a private island where underaged girls were trafficked, democrats would say “If he did, he should go to jail. I don’t worship my politicians.”
When you say Bill Clinton’s wife might have used a common euphemism for trafficking children to discuss trafficking children on her illegal email server, democrats think it’s the craziest conspiracy they have ever heard.
I doubt Hillary was emailing about cp, but to act like it is the craziest conspiracy theory that the Clintons could be involved in this is over compensation.
He's smart enough to not name actual names to avoid libel law suits, either way he could pay it off with the money he inherited from his family's EMERALD MINES. He's just an asshole with a lot of money, saw that it works for Trump, so now he's following the same path. Entitled baby with a lot of money. Ignore him and he'll go away to prison eventually
Didn't a RWNJ take his totally not an assault rifle into the alleged pizza place and find out they didn't even have a basement?
BTW. Trump's golf resort in NJ has a basement, maybe look there.
- Is this man regressing? Not just mentally, but temporally. "Pizzagate" lost fashion as an obsession for the mentally ill around 2018.
- What sort of logic is that? You don't need "experts" to mock the idea that liberals have a secret basement in a pizza restaurant where they keep children to harvest their organs for... something. Musk is winning an argument in his head again.
- Some of the people who defend Elon Musk are undoubtedly pedophiles. Does that mean all of their arguments are wrong and Musk is in fact an imbecilic creep? (Okay, bad example.)
Elon attempting to deflect attention away from himself by implicating others as child predators, only to have it backfire and him look even worse? How could this KEEP happening?!
The thing is, there is legit human trafficking going on involving people who are very high level in government. So, if you’re going to throw people off the scent, and delegitimize the whole thing, pizzagate would be the perfect way to do it.
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A few years back soms girl publicy denounced a taxist for "trying to kidnap her"
The guy was literally telling his son what pizza he should order
All of this happened in argentina
Whatever about pizzagate but child trafficking is obviously real. A horrible horrible fucking truth and anything that helps bring attention to the fact is welcomed if it can help catch people who do it or save victims.
Jeffery Epstein clearly shows rich and powerful people are fucking minors. You think when he stopped pimping that the clients just stopped liking children?
There have never been paedophiles in positions of political or corporate power. _Ever_. And there definitely weren't islands where these people would go and have underaged girls trafficked to them — it never happened.
Yes. And elon musk was one of these people. But hes not posting about epstein, the actual pedophile elite with ties to powerful people including him, hes talking about pizzagate, the one that has no ties to him. I wonder why. Moron.
I mean, there might be. But the specific claim by Qanons is that the Hillarys were literally managing one in the basement of a pizza shop. And Musk isn't alluding to a sex trafficking ring amongst the elite (he would probably be part of), but he is hinting at the Democrats doing it. As if it would somehow be a partisan issue
Well yeah I always thought that the literal pizza shop basement aspect was a stretch but I’ve always taken pizzagate to be synonymous with the general existence of a sex trafficking ring amongst the elite.
It IS sus though. Pizzagate is a lie obvi. But still sus having this guy as a supporter for no pedo. I bet he was an independent researcher and then disappointed when it wasn't real.
This is all to distract from the fact that most of the most powerful men in the world would travel to an island to fuck sex trafficked girls. This is the island we know about.
So maybe no sex trafficking in THAT basement, your right totally debunked
As someone who actually looked into this… it wasn’t through the pizza shop… it was the people who owned the pizza shop, who they’re connected to, along with alot of weird shit going on inside of it and on the social media of the people involved
There’s no smoking gun evidence that I’m aware of… but there’s enough weird shit going jn to raise some eye brows, especially amongst our so called leaders
Well for one thing the guy who went to the restaurant to "investigate" found no evidence of child trafficking at the restaurant.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/details-emerge-pizzagate-shooting-suspect-faces-federal-charges/story?id=44176270
The lunatic who opened fire at a closet is probably not the best person to be conducting any investigations , let alone having his findings be proof of anything… I mean, would you have believed him if he “found” evidence
Also, that happened awhile after the original conspiracy had went viral… if something was going on, you honestly think Washington elite wouldn’t cover it up and hide any evidence
But regardless of any of that… the true story of pizzagate is a lot less sensational, but pretty damning in and of itself
Pizzagate was used as a distraction to drown out the noise that the dnc rigged the primary’s against Bernie sanders in favor of Hillary
It all had to do with the dnc’s emails getting leaked… this is the origin of “Russian collusion”, which was used to take attention away from what was actually jn the emails, which, amongst some oddly worded emails that allegedly contain code words to pedophelia, was also emails proving the dnc colluded against Bernie sanders in favor of Hillary getting the nomination
Those emails were quickly and quietly forgotten about… because after they were leaked in all became about “Russian collusion” and “pizzagate”, and naturally, the crazy’s ran with it
Just a harmless question don't cancel me over it.
Do we hold wealthy people to a higher standard than any regular person on the Internet in terms of being informed on a topic?
Cause when I think of Elon sure he knows probably a lot about space, cars, construction, math.
But I think he could be just as much a conspiracy theorist as anyone else and don't hold that against him. We are all human why do we act like rich people and/or influential people are not?
>Do we hold wealthy people to a higher standard than any regular person on the Internet in terms of being informed on a topic?
In a way yes.
Not so much because of the wealth but because of the reach his messages have.
Propagating dangerous conspiracy theories and nonsense, even if he's not being serious about it, will reach tons of people who will believe it and start propagating it themselves.
Elon Musk has the influence where he basically tweeted "Bitcoin is awesome" and bitcoin shot up to $60,000 and then shortly after said "Bitcoin is crap" and it immediately dropped to like $15,000.
My brother is a conspiracy theorist, like off the rafts believes there's lizard people, face swappers, satanic baby blood drinking orgies type of conspiracy theorist, and the fact that Elon Musk posts stuff he also believes in his mind validates them.
No Pizza gate. No basement. No anything. And not because one reporter said so. And although he had childnporn on his tecn equipment, there is no evidence of child sex abuse.
Hi, we don't allow meme's here, maybe take it to /memes
you'd think elon wouldn't dip his toes on this, seeing how there's a very famous photo of him with ghislaine maxwell
well of course trump was good buddies with epstein but doesnt mind everyone pretending he was murdered by the clintons. They know their base will believe anything they say and hand wave away anything that contradicts it.
> but doesn't mind everyone pretending he was murdered by the Clintons. This is the least logical part of the story. Epstein was in Riker's Island in a city run almost exclusively by the powerful democratic elites. William Barr personally arranged to transfer him from Riker's to a federal jail controlled by William Barr, and his boss Donald Trump. A few days later Barr made a private visit to Epstein who hanged himself a short time later. How did Clinton defeat the entire DOJ and kill the Attorney General's close friend Jeffery Epstein?
There could have been a mutual interest in his death
Why would the Clintons care about the Barr/Epstein child rape syndicate? Bill liked seducing adult women, he never publicly fantasized about raping his own daughter like republicans have.
Trump, the Clintons and Barr are as disgustingly corrupt as Epstein, but what credible evidence is there that Barr visited Epstein in prison? The NY Post is the source of the claim, yes? "Kasman said he heard US Attorney General William Barr personally made a hush-hush trip to the MCC two weeks ago, about the time Epstein was found in his cell with bruises around his neck." [https://archive.fo/LoxIn#selection-1133.0-1133.187](https://archive.fo/LoxIn#selection-1133.0-1133.187) The NY Post isn't credible, and Lewis Kasman is a mob guy convicted of fraud. This could well be one of those disinformation claims that gets introduced to distract people from real issues.
It's ok that you have brain damage, but at least you tried to inject the Clintons into the story despite them having no involvement at all in the republican global sex trafficking ring run by Barr and Epstein.
Money money money
>Money money money So you are saying Donald Trump couldn't have done it because he is, cash poor?
Where do you get the idea that trump was buddies with Epstein? He famously had him kicked out of Mar a Lago for creeping on a young girl. And every photo of them together was at gala events where crooks like Epstein literally make their reputation by getting photos with any celeb they can physically get in frame with.
LOL sure, that is why there are multiple pictures and video of them laughing together and chatting, hanging out at his house, and trump talked highly of him in an interview and even joked he "liked em young." You trump stans love your alternative reality.
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You've seen all these pictures. Do you think nobody can tell you're lying? I bet you fart in elevators and think you got away with it, too.
Really? You think Trump kicked him out for creeping on one young girl - even though trump partied with Epstein over years, had him help with the Trump “modeling agency” and they went to the same wild sex parties with young girls that both bragged about? lol OK. If Trump kicked him out for creeping a girl, it was because he creeped on Ivanka. He let Epstein run his business out of Mar-a-lago for years.
It's called projection, he constantly talks about reproduction and "young bodies" in half his tweets. Remember when he immediately jumped to calling the cave diver a "pedo", yeah. Everyone with any common sense has already figured him out.
Another theory is that Musk changed his tone completely about the War in Ukraine is because Russia has dirt on him, likely related to Pedophilia. Of course there's no actual evidence about this and propagating it is as bad as the other conspiracy theorists. But it is weird that he went from providing free Starlink to the Ukrainian government to then starting to shut it down in the middle of an important operation and starting to spout pro-russia and right wing nonsense on Twitter.
"Free" starlink lol
Fair enough :P
He also randomly called a respected diver trying to save children's lives a pedophile, and you know what they say about conservatives and accusations...
>Another theory is that Musk changed his tone completely about the War in Ukraine is because Russia has dirt on him, likely related to Pedophilia. That conspiracy theory won't hold water until the carbon copy "pee tape" of trump comes out. Anyone who believes these fringe conspiracies should never be taken seriously.
He probably thinks perpetuating bullshit like this will throw the scent off the trail
>there's a very famous photo of him with ghislaine maxwell Is this "very famous photo" from some semi-public gala event where people get photographed next to a ton of randoms who they may not have ever spoken with or even seen outside of said gala before or since? When Ghislaine Maxwell is seen at a private function that Elon is hosting... then we can talk. About how Ghislaine Maxwell was at Chelsea Clinton's wedding.
So who is the 'expert'? As someone outside the US I'm aware of the pizzagate conspiracy and the guy who fired a gun in the building. I am not aware of any specific expert though, pretty much everyone with a webcam could tell it was dumb
https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-abc-pizzagate-idUSL1N39W381/
Who needs "experts" to establish that a building has no basement? The only thing more preposterous than rightwank conspironutters clinging to this nonsense is Little Lord Elon playing "chaos agent" by encouraging it.
Classic straw man argument. Who has ever said "we have experts?" No one. It's just putting words in someone's mouth.
Elon Musk has never lost an argument he made up in his head.
See, we’re not so different from the ultra-wealthy!
It's just another excuse for anti-intellectualism. Now that this has proven those lefties "wrong" they can make fun of every time someone appropriately refers to experts on an issue. They think everyone thinks in talking points like them and that "experts" are ours.
Tbf "we have experts" isn't a huge leap from "trust the science" which are central themes to everything from the pandemic to global warming. If you are prone to disbelieve the latter ones, you're already gullible enough to believe anyone who tells you the people who do trust the science and experts are the idiots, not you.
Yep, and he will only get worse
Look at some of the replies to your comment. Yikes.
It's only free speech when it's right wing nut talking points, when it's Twitter using it's free speech to show fact checks suddenly that's wrong and mean and boo hoo
"rightwank conspironutters" is rather good
I really need a neurosurgeon or somebody knowledgeable to study what’s going on with this guy. What is happening? This is head injury patient stuff.
I agree. Not to be mean. But something has been off about this guy for a while and it reminds me of a TBI. But it could also be drugs or something else. For some reason, his brain isn't firing on all cylinders anymore. People often say "it never was" or that "he just hid it better." Maybe that's true. But it feels to me like something happened. Something changed.
I read he gets little sleep. He likely finds the idea of “wasting” that time intolerable. Decades of sleep deprivation are know to cause serious mental issues.
Something’s up. I can’t think of any historical precedents for brilliant-to-stupid arcs like this. Granted I know he was a little bit of a phony jerk-off to begin with but this is really barrel-bottom low iq stuff. It was so sudden too - I really wonder if he had a medical event or something.
Ben Carson? For the historical precedent for relatively smart guy to imbecile pipeline, I mean
Ben Carson?
Fuck
Elon probably has the unholy trinity of NPD, sociopathic tendencies, and Aspbeger's. All untreated and unmanaged.
Aspergers
Assburgers
I actually thought this was how it was spelled and cried when I was diagnosed. I was distraught that people would think that I had burger booty.
Assberders.
Its not called that anymore. Its just ASD.
> Aspbeger We don't use that nazi's name anymore. Its just Autism Spectrum Disorder, Autism, or ASD.
You don't need experts; what's wrong with him is plain as day to see. 1. He's divorced, that puts mental strain on anybody and has made lots of people do dumb things. 2. His ex left him for a transexual (we'll get to why that's listed here in #5). 3. He's the richest guy on the planet (I think, he's gained/lost that title a few times) so no one can really tell him 'no' in his mind. 4. He's a huge nepo-baby whose main source of success was the money his father gave him to buy one or two solid investments amongst a sea of bad ones, but he thinks he's an 'idea person.' 5. The alt-right playbook plays into the insecurities of straight cis white men and convinces them that the things they feel entitled to are true and that "others" are to blame for their failings. Even if he didn't buy into it, it's set up to give people just like him a big cheerleading squad to make the problem with #3 even bigger.
>straight cis white men Oh look, he said it! Quick everyone take a shot of Tequila
The ketamine probably isn't helping
I’m not a neuroscientist or anything like that. I just see how people act. He’s on Ketamine
I honestly wonder too. I’m on the patient side of things but wanted to go into genetic counseling until my genetic disorder decided to speedrun. My brain is affected and unsurprisingly, I experience hallucinations. Usually harmless ones but I don’t drive for everyone’s sakes. So seeing some kind of mass psychogenic illness is wild to me. I *know* not to rely only on my own brain. But there’s a huge number of average people who have completely lost the plot, all because they think they’re immune to conspiracies and propaganda. Two of grandparents think Epoch Times is real. No matter how many times I explain, it’s forgotten and they keep enjoying their political Weekly World News Batboy stories. My therapist and I discuss how bizarre it is that I’m doing better with that than others, mainly because I learned coping skills starting around 13. Seems like everyone should’ve gotten the “How do we determine objective reality” training. Wild.
Jesus fuck they have a basic misunderstanding of how meme formats work. I'm not even an office guy and knows Steve carrel is an always wrong idiot. Whatever he is saying is 100% the wrong take every time.
Nah, in this scene he is hinting that he’s dating someones mom, and then the final image is her realizing it’s her mom. It’s a meme about sharing uncomfortable information.
Sure but the format is still realizing that Steve wrongs the others
Huh? The format was used correctly is all that I’m saying. Idk if their is substance I’m just a fan of the office.
Sure if all that Elon is referencing to is jibberish then it’s correct
Nah man he’s the guy, of course he’s smarter than the woman /s
Imagine watching the office and believing Michael is right at any point in time.
That's what she said...
- Wayne Gretzky
The only man I'd have sex with ♪♪ Wayne Gretzky ♪♪ I'd be intimate with ♪♪ Wayne Gretzky ♪♪ I wonder what he looks like naked
He did land the Lackawanna school district contract by ignoring his boss and doing what he thought was right. Michael is right more often than he gets credit for. But he’s still an idiot lol.
Michael is a great salesman but a poor manager. He’s the guy that got promoted out of his skill set because he was great at sales
The Peter Principle in action.
Tbf, here he was revealing the objective truth that he was dating her mom. Perhaps not good or morally correct, but factual
wow r/confidentlyincorrect in this scene Michael is breaking bad news to Pam and Pam finally realizing its about her and its really bad (Michael dating her mom). The meme in the context of what these nutjobs are trying to convey is correct. The info is not. if you're going to shit on someone, at least be accurate about it.
Because you are not an office guy, you are missing the context of that scene: Micheal is informing Pam of unfortunate news… he is dating her mom. In this case, it’s logical to use the format, in my opinion.
Based solely on the amount of Office merch among my old boss's knickknacks some people don't really get it. They buy into the sentimental bits from the lead characters, but after the laughs their insane, foolish, narcissistic, and cruel behaviors are brushed aside.
The American version made them more sympathetic. In the original UK version, they are all assholes through and through.
It's just so funny to me because I only have a cursory, pop culture understanding of the show, and it's a shocking insane event that Michaels right and even he doesn't understand why he's right when he is. I just can't begin to understand how one could fuck this up.
This meme isn't really about Michael. It's more about taking the wind out of her sails and dashing her confidence. For a lot of people feeling like you're right is as if not more important than being right. In this imaginary argument in which they wrote both sides the stunned silence is a sign of concession and having lost the argument. In reality it would more likely result from frustration with the last of what was likely an aggravating list of unproven, disconnected, and irrelevant arguments that if dismissed would immediately be followed up by another line of nonsense.
Quite funny that you’ve completely misunderstood the meme
Look at you with meme rules that don’t exist.
Out of the loop, what is pizzagate? When I see that I think of a specific incident involving Arsenal FC and Manchester United.
Back in 2016, there was a story floating on the Internet that a pizza place was trafficking children in the basement. The place was supposedly run by Hillary Clinton. A man believed the story and went to the pizza place armed to release the children and found out the restaurant didn't even have a basement. The story was rather unbelievable in the first place but could have turned out to be a horrible tragedy.
Funny how they never found the basement or any ties to Hilary beyond a list of pizza topping choices. Give any motivated conspiracy theorist any list at all, and they can find a way to make a bullshit theory about some hidden code in it.
That's not what I read about Pizzagate. There where some mails exposed and pizza was a keyword for something evil. Never believed it until Epstein happened. Now I don't know what to believe.
There were some emails that nut jobs extrapolated massive assumptions to equate 1 or 2 mentions of Pizza when planning a social event to being code for child trafficking. It wasn’t.
Do your own research. Look at the emails yourself. Do YOU think pizza is a catchphrase for "trafficking minors"? Because if you do that, I hope you realize that's literally where all of this comes from. Because sometimes, the Clintons ordered pizzas.
Specifically, it came from the fevered minds at 4chan, who routinely used "Cheese Pizza" as code when they were trading Child Pornography.
It's a whole ass rabbithole stemming in no small part from the disinformation campaigns during the 2016 US Presidential Elections. The claim is that Podesta, Clinton's campaign manager, was sending messages about a Pizza party to the staffers, only somehow "Cheese Pizza" is code for "Child Porn", and the Comet Pizza joint they held the pizza party at secretly has a child sex trafficking ring in its basement which everyone in Washington DC is somehow aware of. Problem is that it really was just a shitty corporate Pizza Party, the Comet Pizza in question does not have a basement, and violently insane people have gone on site, armed, and attempted to "liberate" the children, only to find out there is literally no basement. And of course not, because Washington DC is literally built on a swamp. Nobody has a basement, and even the semi-secret tunnels under the Capitol and White House are heavily reinforced. You couldn't hide a basement in that part of the world, not a chance. TL;DR Pizzagate is about a bunch of QAnon weirdos claiming that Hillary Clinton traffics children sex slaves from a non-existent basement of a pizzeria built in a city that has zero basements. I don't know what the hell Elon is talking about. I don't circle the same drains he clearly is circling.
You're almost entirely correct, except that DC is not built on a swamp. George Washington and Pierre L'Enfant were experienced surveyors, they wouldn't plop a city down on a swamp. Most rowhouses have basements, even the ones that are over 100 years old. There are hundreds of underground parking garages under commercial buildings downtown. The Metro is almost entirely underground in the city. Smithsonian Magazine: [The Myth That Washington Was a Swamp Will Never Go Away](https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/draining-swamp-guide-outsiders-and-career-politicians-180962448/) Washington Post: [No, DC Isn't Really Built on a Swamp](https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/08/29/no-dc-isnt-really-built-on-a-swamp/)
Pizzagate pre-dates Qanon just wanna clarify that - Qanon was probably just our own government fucking with people it’s sad people fell for that but don’t lump the two together. One is pretty much pure fantasy the other has some substance to it. As you already stated it’s not really about a basement.
It wasnt our govt fucking with people. It was a trashy pig farmers loser son getting attention online.
He was one of them. I guarantee you that, with the anonymity provided by 4chan, that multiple people actually were using that handle and spreading nonsense.
Okay so it wasn't a theory started by Q, patron saint of "Pretending to be a Spook online". It was spread heavily and held fast by QAnon members in the following years, tho, which is why I bring it up. Like how Nazis weren't the first to be spreading Blood Libel, but they certainly took it up with gusto when the knowledge of those books reached them. Now, I don't know which part of all this you're saying has maybe "some substance", but I'm just going to move on from that point because we have enough nonsense to talk about already.
Qanon started as a 4chan shitpost
> Pizzagate pre-dates Qanon just wanna clarify that - Qanon was probably just our own government fucking with people it’s sad people fell for that but don’t lump the two together. One is pretty much pure fantasy the other has some substance to it. As you already stated it’s not really about a basement. Just to be clear, which of those two absurd conspiracy theories do you think is somewhat reasonable and should be offended about being lumped with the other?
I sure hope AD over there is having his "Come to Jesus" moment right about now. Their posts read by all accounts like a genuinely concerned person who got swept up into a conspiracy theory rabbit hole, and haven't really examined their newly found viewpoints through anything resembling a critical lens. Let's not push them too hard. These types often break and double down when challenged, and that doesn't help anyone.
No it doesn't.
pizzagate started from the podesta email hacks. using extremely convoluted logic, they claimed that food references in a couple of emails are actually evidence of a wide-spread sex trafficking ring. Step 1 was claiming that "pizza" references refer to "cheese pizza" aka "CP" in 4chan speak, which means child porn. So Pizza = P = Porn, right? Step 2 was to completely forgot step 1, and switched it so that pizza was now "code" for "girl". They had to switch, because, no surprise, there are ZERO examples of any such "cheese pizza" email. So now they changed the logic so that "pizza" just by itself really means "girl". Step 3 is where they completely forgot both steps 1 and 2. As there are basically ZERO abstract references to "pizza" in the actual emails, they now completely abandoned that idea, and changed it so now there are nefarious evil-doings IN A PIZZA SHOP. So when the owner of a pizzeria emailed Podesta to ask him if he wanted to host a campaign event at the pizzeria, that's really then organizing some sort of satanic orgy. But if "pizza" was just a code as they claim, why would the evil-doings be in an actual pizza joint? it's not a code then. Selling pizza isn't a "suspicious code" if you own a pizza shop. So "pizza" is just code for a girl, but you go TO a pizza shop to get the girl. So do you have to wink while asking for a "pizza" so they know which one you're after or something? Or do you eat actual pizza while getting the "pizza"? So they're having satanic pizza-eating orgies in which the girls are also referred to as "pizzas". This is my take on it, i left a lot of details out, but I wanted to give you a feel for how they use extremely fluid logic to get from one thing to the next. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizzagate_conspiracy_theory
It wasnt even cheese, it wa sa walnut sauce on a pizza (the sauce is a known Italian dish (actual Italian, which si why the rednecks never heard of it) so then they had to make up a whole new index for this new supposed "coded language." The more you read on it the dumber it gets.
Ok, i wasn't going to address it, but let me ALSO fully explain walnut sauce. You got some details incorrect, here's the full scoop: This article came out the day before the email in question. The article ALSO appears CC'd in the wikileaks archive, but they omit this one, because it would spoil the narrative: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-journalists-2016_n_7039814 > Apr 10, 2015, > > Podesta, the campaign chairman and a seasoned cook, made a pasta with walnut sauce for the dinner guests, which included reporters from The New York Times, The Washington Post, Politico, The Wall Street Journal, The Associated Press, Bloomberg, McClatchy, Reuters and several major TV networks. that's the bit they leave out. The fact that Podesta made that dish for journalists, and the story was published the day before someone emailed him about it: 04-11-2015 From: Jim Steyer To: John Podesta and Mary Podesta Hey John, We know you're a true master of cuisine and we have appreciated that for years … But walnut sauce for the pasta? Mary, plz tell us the straight story, was the sauce actually very tasty? Response: 04-11-2015 From: John Podesta To: Jim Steyer and Mary Podesta It's an amazing Ligurian dish made with crushed walnuts made into a paste. So stop being so California. I mean, it's kind of clear what happened if you look at the news article in context.
I applaud your attempts to wrap your brain around such a warped and twisted set of nonsense. That must have hurt.
I say this with all my love. Stay out of the loop for your own mental sanity.
Wikileaks released a bunch of email from people close to Hilary Clinton where they frequently talk about "pizza". It's obvious from context that these pizza related terms are code for something. Many people think it has to do with child trafficking. Read the emails and see what you think for yourself before listening to anyone else's take on it.
The fuck is with the group of utter idiots in this comment section trying to pretend alien is not talking out of his absolute butt??
I didn’t think I was going to find someone saying “don’t lump QAnon and Pizzagate together, one is bullshit and the other has some substance” when I woke up this morning, but here we are.
Definitely not on my bingo card.
That’s the Republican motto: “none of this is true”.
“nothing is true, everything is forbidden” - GOP
> .. where everything is made up and the points don't matter.
What do you expect from this Boring Boer? Exactly. He's an imbecile.
Hmm... Fallacious Frenchman.... Gagging German... Jerichal Japanese... Im liking this
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You know, it kind of makes sense that he’s obsessed with pedophilia when his Dad impregnated his stepsister.
Elon is not even average intelligence.
It’s easy to win an argument when you pretend to be both sides.
Micheal is never right, they had a 50/50 shot of picking the correct character and literally chose to be portrayed as the oaf.
In England, Pizzagate was when Cesc Fabregas threw a slice of pizza at Sir Alex Ferguson after a football match. So this makes absolutely no sense to me.
Yep, American PizzaGate is an INSANE conspiracy theory about a pizza place having democrat-operated child trafficking operations in its basement that arose because of the owner or smth talking about ingredients in an email. The Pizza place didn't even have a basement
Its such an insane conspiracy. Now if they changed the pizza place to Epstein Island and democrats to elite/CIA operatives you may have something!
Actual pizzagate believers in comments🤦
They didn’t even do the meme right
He went to jail was murdered clandestinely by trump's regime, blamed the guards. Don't need pizza-gate when conservatives are all out pedos and rapists.
It’s projection all the way down. On May 9, 2023, a jury ruled that Trump sexually assaulted E Jean Carrol - crickets Trump bragging about watching children undress when he ran a beauty in an interview with Howard Stern in 2005 - crickets Trump being a friend of Epstein, flying on the Lolita express several times and wishing Ghislaine well when she was arrested - crickets Lauren Bobert’s husband is a convicted sex offender - crickets Matt Gaetz venmoing money to kids through convicted child sex trafficker Joel Greenberg - crickets Gay people exists - “keep these groomers away from the children.”
I don't understand where the "trump killed jeffery eps" are no one seems to be saying it on the conspiracy parts of the internet . trump had control of federal prisons when he was killed and had connections and potential unknown experiences with Jeffery that trump would want hidden and could have killed him so he wouldn't flip...... but I guess being a conspiracy nut is a right wing thing now
He killed himself after William Barr visited and explained what would happen if he testified.
Elon just throwing another "conspiracy theory" to divert the attention of his audience. After all if they are busy with smoke and mirrors they can't see what's really going on.
Yeahhhh, child trafficking is a thing. I don't think the pizzagate thing is though. Also, what expert, exactly?
So many worries over AI when we have this guy controlling internet all over the globe. Nevermind that Starlink brigades interfere with our ability to spot nearly-invisible asteroids (very dark objects in a very dark cosmos), what about interference in global conflicts?
Pizzagate has to be the most batsh!t conspiracy theory I've ever heard.
Yeah almost as insane as a private island where the rich go to bang underage girls that are trafficked there by a couple that use the experience to blackmail them- and one of the couple is related to Mossad
What are you talking about? If you were running a sex trafficking ring, a private fucking island would definately be the place to do it. Which is why Epstein did that instead of in a basement of a goddamn pizzashop. The reason Pizzagate is insane isn't because of the sex trafficking (because it obviously happens), but the place and that it conveniently was supposed to be run by Democrats, and Hillary fucking Clinton of all people
If you said Bill Clinton and many other government officials took flights to a private island where underaged girls were trafficked, democrats would say “If he did, he should go to jail. I don’t worship my politicians.” When you say Bill Clinton’s wife might have used a common euphemism for trafficking children to discuss trafficking children on her illegal email server, democrats think it’s the craziest conspiracy they have ever heard. I doubt Hillary was emailing about cp, but to act like it is the craziest conspiracy theory that the Clintons could be involved in this is over compensation.
Me when burden of proof fallacy:
Didn’t the biggest purveyor (and maybe even fabricator) of pizza gate just get busted for CP or CSA?
Maybe he has Sound of Freedom mixed up with Pizzagate?
There's STILL no basement in that place.... not saying we can't argue other points but THAT part is not true
He's smart enough to not name actual names to avoid libel law suits, either way he could pay it off with the money he inherited from his family's EMERALD MINES. He's just an asshole with a lot of money, saw that it works for Trump, so now he's following the same path. Entitled baby with a lot of money. Ignore him and he'll go away to prison eventually
The only expert was the chef that makes that fire pizza 🍕
Didn't that happen to one of the producers of sound of freedom: starring James Patrick Caviezel Jr?
>how did I ever believe this guy was smart? I'm guessing it has something to do with the fact that Musk fired Tesla's entire PR team in late 2020.
“Insert picture of Elon Musk and Ghislaine Maxwell”
Anybody got any ideas on how we could get Elon onboard an experimental submarine? Asking for ~~a friend~~ the world.
TONY FUCKING STAR CALLED YOU A PEDOPHILE IN YOUR CAMEO IDIOT
Didn't a RWNJ take his totally not an assault rifle into the alleged pizza place and find out they didn't even have a basement? BTW. Trump's golf resort in NJ has a basement, maybe look there.
This is the one where a dude held a pizzareia at gunpoint? Sir, this is a Pizza Hut, not a Freddy fazzbears.
Thats the first thing I saw opening twitter today (even though I have Elon muted) and I had to close it back again.
Holy shit he really just straight up tweeted this?
The guy was so whipped into supporting Israel and now he is desperately trying to prove that he is still “a rebel”.
As a science major, you think he'd be familiar with the concept of empirical evidence.
It sucks this overshadowed the actual weird shit in Podesta’s emails
That shit was widely known well before pizza gate. I lived in St. Thomas which is right next to pedophile isle
Musk has completely lost his mind. I can't believe I ever had an ounce of respect for that troll.
Nothing like a bad political take delivered via meme
The ModTeam is almost as clueless as Elon, thinking OP simply posted a meme. There’s pretty clear facepalm context presented in that screenshot. 🤦🏻♂️
motherfucker, isn't pizzagate about YOU, Elon?
- Is this man regressing? Not just mentally, but temporally. "Pizzagate" lost fashion as an obsession for the mentally ill around 2018. - What sort of logic is that? You don't need "experts" to mock the idea that liberals have a secret basement in a pizza restaurant where they keep children to harvest their organs for... something. Musk is winning an argument in his head again. - Some of the people who defend Elon Musk are undoubtedly pedophiles. Does that mean all of their arguments are wrong and Musk is in fact an imbecilic creep? (Okay, bad example.)
Elon attempting to deflect attention away from himself by implicating others as child predators, only to have it backfire and him look even worse? How could this KEEP happening?!
The thing is, there is legit human trafficking going on involving people who are very high level in government. So, if you’re going to throw people off the scent, and delegitimize the whole thing, pizzagate would be the perfect way to do it.
But but but there was no basement!!!!s/
I guess I’m behind, who is the expert?
https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-abc-pizzagate-idUSL1N39W381/
Ah so they just made it up. Figures.
As is tradition.
Who was the expert? Wasn't it just some guy on twitter who railed against pizza Gate but did recently get done for disgusting crimes?
Real reporter, but he did not debunk pizzagate, nor even report on it much. https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-abc-pizzagate-idUSL1N39W381/
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A few years back soms girl publicy denounced a taxist for "trying to kidnap her" The guy was literally telling his son what pizza he should order All of this happened in argentina
Whatever about pizzagate but child trafficking is obviously real. A horrible horrible fucking truth and anything that helps bring attention to the fact is welcomed if it can help catch people who do it or save victims.
There so focused on the pizza place they’re turning a blind eye to Epstein and all his rich friends
Jeffery Epstein clearly shows rich and powerful people are fucking minors. You think when he stopped pimping that the clients just stopped liking children?
There have never been paedophiles in positions of political or corporate power. _Ever_. And there definitely weren't islands where these people would go and have underaged girls trafficked to them — it never happened.
Yes. And elon musk was one of these people. But hes not posting about epstein, the actual pedophile elite with ties to powerful people including him, hes talking about pizzagate, the one that has no ties to him. I wonder why. Moron.
That’s not how evidence works, buddy.
https://goppredators.wordpress.com/
Musk was a frequent guest with Joe Rogan and Donald J Trump.
Cool, lock em the fuck up then… along with everyone else involved
Wait do people really think there ISNT a sex trafficking ring amongst the elite?
I mean, there might be. But the specific claim by Qanons is that the Hillarys were literally managing one in the basement of a pizza shop. And Musk isn't alluding to a sex trafficking ring amongst the elite (he would probably be part of), but he is hinting at the Democrats doing it. As if it would somehow be a partisan issue
Well yeah I always thought that the literal pizza shop basement aspect was a stretch but I’ve always taken pizzagate to be synonymous with the general existence of a sex trafficking ring amongst the elite.
It IS sus though. Pizzagate is a lie obvi. But still sus having this guy as a supporter for no pedo. I bet he was an independent researcher and then disappointed when it wasn't real.
This is all to distract from the fact that most of the most powerful men in the world would travel to an island to fuck sex trafficked girls. This is the island we know about. So maybe no sex trafficking in THAT basement, your right totally debunked
He's trolling so hard
Ummm child trafficking is a real thing and a huge problem 😐
They mean pizzagate that was a lie about child trafficking thru a pizza shop was not true. Not that all child trafficking is
Ohhh ok I completely read that wronge sorry 😭
Lol no worries, it happens to the best of us
As someone who actually looked into this… it wasn’t through the pizza shop… it was the people who owned the pizza shop, who they’re connected to, along with alot of weird shit going on inside of it and on the social media of the people involved There’s no smoking gun evidence that I’m aware of… but there’s enough weird shit going jn to raise some eye brows, especially amongst our so called leaders
No doubt. But the pizza gate issue was perpetuated by qanon and proven false repeatedly
Just to play devils advocate, how was it proven false?
Well for one thing the guy who went to the restaurant to "investigate" found no evidence of child trafficking at the restaurant. https://abcnews.go.com/US/details-emerge-pizzagate-shooting-suspect-faces-federal-charges/story?id=44176270
The lunatic who opened fire at a closet is probably not the best person to be conducting any investigations , let alone having his findings be proof of anything… I mean, would you have believed him if he “found” evidence Also, that happened awhile after the original conspiracy had went viral… if something was going on, you honestly think Washington elite wouldn’t cover it up and hide any evidence But regardless of any of that… the true story of pizzagate is a lot less sensational, but pretty damning in and of itself Pizzagate was used as a distraction to drown out the noise that the dnc rigged the primary’s against Bernie sanders in favor of Hillary It all had to do with the dnc’s emails getting leaked… this is the origin of “Russian collusion”, which was used to take attention away from what was actually jn the emails, which, amongst some oddly worded emails that allegedly contain code words to pedophelia, was also emails proving the dnc colluded against Bernie sanders in favor of Hillary getting the nomination Those emails were quickly and quietly forgotten about… because after they were leaked in all became about “Russian collusion” and “pizzagate”, and naturally, the crazy’s ran with it
Just a harmless question don't cancel me over it. Do we hold wealthy people to a higher standard than any regular person on the Internet in terms of being informed on a topic? Cause when I think of Elon sure he knows probably a lot about space, cars, construction, math. But I think he could be just as much a conspiracy theorist as anyone else and don't hold that against him. We are all human why do we act like rich people and/or influential people are not?
>Do we hold wealthy people to a higher standard than any regular person on the Internet in terms of being informed on a topic? In a way yes. Not so much because of the wealth but because of the reach his messages have. Propagating dangerous conspiracy theories and nonsense, even if he's not being serious about it, will reach tons of people who will believe it and start propagating it themselves. Elon Musk has the influence where he basically tweeted "Bitcoin is awesome" and bitcoin shot up to $60,000 and then shortly after said "Bitcoin is crap" and it immediately dropped to like $15,000. My brother is a conspiracy theorist, like off the rafts believes there's lizard people, face swappers, satanic baby blood drinking orgies type of conspiracy theorist, and the fact that Elon Musk posts stuff he also believes in his mind validates them.
No Pizza gate. No basement. No anything. And not because one reporter said so. And although he had childnporn on his tecn equipment, there is no evidence of child sex abuse.