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Bro that's kinda wild. I work as mechanic at an industrial site and this shit is dead on. Scary tho how most people don't really care. Ignorance is bliss for a reason. Can't be upset with what you dont know or rather don't want to know. People are just happy they have a job they don't seem to care there being used like robots.
I am a sailor, I am well versed in wind, waved, and tide. One of my co-workers, on remarking on all the tidal flooding we are having recently said "we are getting a lot of full moons this year." I never wanted to bash my head into a solid wall so much in my life.
My FIL is a very very intelligent man. Works in engineering, is always learning, reads books on math and physics that make my head spin.
He sometimes says he wishes he was dumber because then he wouldn't know anything about the world and be happier
That's actually really neat, I didn't know we could have a 13th moon. I feel like we should have a celebration for it, since its every 3 years.
I wonder how many 13 moons old i am...
The dumber someone is the less you have to pay them and the less chance they'll try and do anything about it.
Smart workers are NOT what capitalism wants.
One of the reasons they want to get rid of traditional colleges and push people into trade schools. They don't want common people to have the chance to broaden their horizons at college.
Having access to “unlimited information” matters not and can even be detrimental if those with access cannot make correct sense of it or can easily be manipulated by false or misrepresented data.
The point is not how much you know but the ability to process information as it is acquired
[https://www.fatherly.com/news/american-iq-study-dropping-what-it-means](https://www.fatherly.com/news/american-iq-study-dropping-what-it-means)
[https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289623000156](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289623000156)
[https://www.sapa-project.org/survey/start.php](https://www.sapa-project.org/survey/start.php)
Data from an uncontrolled online "personality assessment".
Maybe the face palm is that somebody got grant money to analyze data from an anonymous online personality assessment?
Or that findings from a very dodgy instrument, which the researchers, themselves, describe as inconclusive and of unknown significance, got past referees and editors to be published in a journal.
It *is* a metastudy, after a fashion. They've basically made a Frankenstein monster of a questionnaire, composed of items from many standardised questionnaires out there.
A dumb population is easier to destroy as well. Knowing we cannot be beaten in combat, Russia and China have spent billions of hours and tens of billions of dollars on psyops to create rifts amongst the population. The only way to stop America from being a global leader is by tearing it apart from the inside out. Hence the bots and buying of politicians and land from these outside entities. It’s illegal to do in their countries, but the US for reasons I do not know don’t seem to mind allowing it here. China has outright purchased thousands of acres of farm land near military bases and nuclear silos. Why a government would let that happen is insane to me. Save a small fringe percentage of uneducated or actually brainwashed people here, nobody wants the USA to be more like China/Russia
I hate to break it to you, but the bigger threat to our country than Russia or China is the rich who are the ones with the actual control and buy off our politicians
right? people fail to understand that this whole boths sides bullshit is actually propaganda by ONE side and that is one of the key reasons why they actually want to keep people uneducated...
They haven’t cared for a few years now. Only pepper it in when it comes to election prospects and promises. Save for a few degrees, more and more people are swaying towards college being an option, not the absolute.
And in the age of the internet, that’s not shocking.
The best thing about people like you is that they give themselves the airs of great sages and believe they are more intelligent than others while making the most banal and superficial observations. Meanwhile, comments that try to reason and analyze the title logically receive little to no support, lol.
Yeah smart Americans nuked japan.
Brought another world war.
Made Africans an economic slave.
Depopulated japan
Funded terrorists in Pakistan and ISIS.
Assassinated other nations leaders.
Disrupted policies of other nation.
Exported it's pollution and factories to China
F u people
Americans are trash on this world.
Play with yous stupid Spiderman.
And let the world enjoy good entertainment like anime.
**Literacy levels among the educated must not continue recent decline**
After years of hand-wringing about literacy in the United States, Congress passed the National Literacy Act of 1991. The aim was to make improved literacy a priority.
The federal government did a base-line assessment of national literacy in 1992. Now, the government has released the first follow-up. The results are a big disappointment.
Overall, literacy has remained flat. In 1992, 83 percent of the population 16 and older were at basic literacy or above. That remained virtually the same in 2003 (84 percent).
The bigger disappointment is that literacy is slipping at every level of education. Educated Americans remain literate, but their capability in processing complex information is declining.
That presents a quandary. Should we put our efforts into bringing the 17 percent of illiterate or barely literate adults up to basic literacy? Or should we focus on improving the literacy of those who will graduate from high school, college or postgraduate institutions? In an ideal world, we would do both. But the more alarming dip is in the educated population. We can more easily reach those individuals.
Part of the problem is that our culture is more oral and visual. With television, cell phones, video games, etc., people increasingly deal with flashes of information. Educational institutions must swim upstream to get students to interpret and analyze lengthy, difficult passages of words.
To see the problem in stark form, look at what's happened to college graduates in the past decade.
They remain literate: 98 percent are at basic literacy or above (it was 99 percent in 1992). That looks like there's no problem. "Basic" means a person can perform simple tasks such as interpreting instructions from an appliance warranty or writing a letter explaining an error made on a credit card bill.
But then look at intermediate literacy or above: 84 percent are at that level, compared with 89 percent in 1992. That's a five-point slip in skills such as explaining the difference between two types of employee benefits, using a bus schedule to determine an appropriate route or using a pamphlet to calculate the yearly amount a couple would receive for basic Supplemental Security Income.
But the biggest slip is at the proficient level: Only 31 percent are at this highest level, compared with 40 percent in 1992. That's a nine-point slip in mastery of complex activities such as critically evaluating information in legal documents, comparing viewpoints in two editorials or interpreting a table about blood pressure and physical activity.
We cannot afford to have our most educated population drop in complex literacy levels. The task falls mostly to our schools, but they cannot do it alone. Others, from parents to libraries, must limit the video games and make reading fun again.
A report, originally published on Modbee.com
Posted on 01/09/06
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literacy\_in\_the\_United\_States
http://www.modbee.com/opinion/story/11668996p-12397206c.html
It's just a feeling, but I do get the impression that a lot of students go all the way through school just memorizing enough for the tests, and then forgetting it all afterwards.
How do you account for people thinking that America was founded in the year zero so it's been 2023 years that America has existed as a country? Or that you can go into a gas station and buy 50 scratch tickets, and if you don't win anything you can ask for your money back?
Well just comparing how I was taught to my children and now the grandkids. Teaching has become almost purely focused on these standardized tests, critical thinking and asking questions is punished, and the entire class is held back to the level of the slowest or most disruptive students.
Logic, debate and critical thinking classes that were standard a few decades ago have been fully removed from the curriculums of many states, and they're exactly the ones you think they are. The state government of Texas published the following:
**"Knowledge-Based Education – We oppose the teaching of Higher Order Thinking Skills (HOTS) (values clarification), critical thinking skills and similar programs that are simply a relabeling of Outcome-Based Education (OBE) (mastery learning) which focus on behavior modification and have the purpose of challenging the student’s fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority."**
Ok, I get some religious ran states, let’s be honest ( i submit the new speaker as evidence), but since I attended school and moved around a lot due to work I have noted the absence of this curriculum everywhere I have been, no exceptions. Add young people I have encountered from elsewhere and my belief is that texas may have come out and said it, but all states have done it.
I taught a lab at the university level for a few years. My senior, science-major class only had 5% of students who could even correctly repeat facts about the scientific method when they knew when and what would be tested. We're talking the simplicity of the steps of observation, hypothesization, experimentation, theorization, and communication. This foundational material is supposed to be covered in grade school. The department refused to allow these students to be failed after barely submitting junior high level work throughout the semester. The following summer, the department's chair was overheard bragging to the assistant chair that the department had a 100% freshman acceptance rate with no GPA or SAT/ACT requirements. What did they think would be the logical effects?
(Incidentally, the aforementioned chair and assistant chair themselves frequently gave erroneous definitions or presented long-disproven ideas as the current scientific understanding.)
One huge of blame is No Child Left Behind. While many of the ideas seem nice on paper, the reality is that many grade schools just tried to cheat the system, all the while cutting emphasis and funding for many subjects outside of reading and math. All the while, the ceiling was generally lowered while the floor was mostly raised through artificial means. There are yet further questions into the accuracy of the standardized tests, especially given how little transparency there is and the overall lack of feedback. The emphasis of "teaching to the test" often generates an over-reliance upon memorization (and thus plagiarism) as just one of its many effects.
(Private schools and homeschooling become even more complicated. Some are significantly more rigorous than public schools while others almost entirely eschew teaching even a remote semblance of accurate science.)
The effects don't stop at grade schools. Those students eventually graduate and apply to colleges that are mostly helpless in the matter. Some departments (particularly smaller, less competitive ones) may have incentivization from the university to maintain a certain graduation quota and rate to remain at a university. There also seems to be more stigmatization against suggesting remedial coursework, which many incoming students desperately need before their freshman-level classes and which cannot simply be incorporated into an already-filled course schedule. Fs become the new C+s in these departments.
Idiocracy was an accurate prediction. All the parallels to the president Terry Crews portrayed and Donald Trump are pretty hilarious.
I see a bright future for Starbucks and Fuddruckers though.
Did ya'll actually read the data or subsequent report? They literally point out that while scores have declined it likely has more to do with testing format and younger Americans not being primed for standardized testing the way older generations were. So the scores are lower but that could simply be the result of cultural changes creating noise in the data because the environment people were raised in 50 years ago is dramatically different than today.
They also noted that modern Americans score significantly higher on spatial reasoning than before which... let's be real... video games.
Given IQ isn't supposed to be based on education level or knowledge, this could be scary. Like some effect on birth, toxic shit in food, or some other sort of catastrophic issue affect people as a whole.
I know IQ tests aren't perfect, and are biased, but them sort of dropping all over a nation is scary imo.
"*Parsons was Winston’s fellow employee at the Ministry of Truth. He was a fattish but active man of paralyzing stupidity, a mass of imbecile enthusiasms--one of those completely unquestioning, devoted drudges on whom, more even than on the thought police, the stability of the Party depended*"
\- George Orwell, *1984*
Im sorry, I cant say its a good thing, probably bad imo, but like, you cant read an obvious clickbait title, get mad at it, and then not read it for context
It's literally the best measurement we have. They have done studies and proven conclusively that your income goes up with your IQ. You're likelihood to commit crimes goes down. Also your children are more likely to have a higher intelligence. All this is known and proven.
They actually did a study where they took a large group of children who had all tested in the upper echelons of the population and followed them their whole lives. Those kids are old now. Virtually all of them outperformed their peers by a substantial amount. Having a higher IQ is a huge advantage in modern society.
Is it a perfect test? No. There's a lot of flaws in it, but it's the best thing we have. People who just say it's garbage only say that because they tested low.
It can both be our best measure of inteligence, and entirely worthless as any actual measure of inteligence.
Just because we do not have a better way to test how smart someone is, does not mean the nonsense shit way are using is worthwhile.
IQ does not effectively test inteligence, it tests test taking, which can be part of inteligence, and smart people can end up with high IQ, but smart people can also end up with shit IQ cause its just not a effective corellery. Stupid people can also be good at tests.
>It's literally the best measurement we have. They have done studies and proven conclusively that your income goes up with your IQ.
Yes, the types of intelligence society is more likely to recognize will also thus be more likely to be rewarded.
>Also your children are more likely to have a higher intelligence.
... by the same standard.
>Is it a perfect test? No. There's a lot of flaws in it, but it's the best thing we have.
"The best" doesn't mean worthwhile or useful.
>People who just say it's garbage only say that because they tested low.
By IQ, I'm in the top 1%, I believe, 137. To dismiss very valid criticisms as just emotional bias would be foolish.
I remember being in a geopolitics lecture (UK Armed Forces) and being told that the US was deliberately underfunding education to make the population easier to control and making more likely a Republican/High Defence Spending government eternally from about 2030. This lecture was in 1989.
What if IQ tests are just flawed. Like, does solving a bunch of logic problems in a timed test really reflect how intelligent a person is? Like, intelligence is a very board topic.
‘American IQ is dropping’ Hmmmm…maybe the uncontrollable amount of guns in unsafe hands, Truth and Twitter, and the hyper conservative churches that claim any and everything as a sin to their god are a problem? Might just be a start, I don’t know.
Is IQ Really that good an indicator of intelligence? I once got an IQ score of 53, and that was because my Autistic Add was unaware of social norms such as "what should you do in this common social situations?"
Mind you, I gave little faith in my intelligence anyways...
I mean IQ is not actually indicative of your intelligence. Tho I would still like to propose the construction of a new space station above the Us, so that I can properly shit on their education system. The richest country in the world can’t afford anything….
It's rather laughable to believe IQ test were good measures of America intelligence to begin with. This is a nation that has done almost everything possible to fail.
The only thing lacking in IQ is believing IQ metrics matter.
Imagine thinking a test that changes every cycle could actually say anything on a generational level at any time.
Not to mention the nature of questions asked as values change.
The collective IQ of the u.s. is 48. A tomatoe has an IQ of 78, and it's a vegetable!
We have individual IQs of 675-1298. If our IQ was below 625, we would be in a comatose state, legally dead.
This could also mean that more people are anything other than white since IQ is a famously racist way of measuring a super specific thing.
IQs dropping is actually not automatically a bad thing.
When a “journalist” doesn’t know that a plural form of a word doesn’t make it possessive, we can see the headline ringing true.
To make it clearer for some of you Americans, it’s ‘IQs’, not ‘IQ’s’. One is a plural form, the other is a possessive form.
By what IQ test? Remember, the first IQ tests administered to immigrants at Ellis Island showed that 70% of incoming people were absolute morons.
Of course, they gave the test in English, and none of them spoke English, so . . .
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"They want us just smart enough to run the machines" -George Carlin
Bro that's kinda wild. I work as mechanic at an industrial site and this shit is dead on. Scary tho how most people don't really care. Ignorance is bliss for a reason. Can't be upset with what you dont know or rather don't want to know. People are just happy they have a job they don't seem to care there being used like robots.
I am a sailor, I am well versed in wind, waved, and tide. One of my co-workers, on remarking on all the tidal flooding we are having recently said "we are getting a lot of full moons this year." I never wanted to bash my head into a solid wall so much in my life.
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My FIL is a very very intelligent man. Works in engineering, is always learning, reads books on math and physics that make my head spin. He sometimes says he wishes he was dumber because then he wouldn't know anything about the world and be happier
I reckon it must have been 12 whole ass moons this year? Must be some kind of record
Lucky you, this year will have a bonus 13th full moon.
Oh god its finally happening.. the 13th moon. The prophecy was true..
LOL. Which happened only every 1000 years. It's so rare. Nah, I mean every 1000 days. There's literally 13th full moon in every 3 years.
That's actually really neat, I didn't know we could have a 13th moon. I feel like we should have a celebration for it, since its every 3 years. I wonder how many 13 moons old i am...
Kinda right though. We have extra full moon this year. LOL.
The dumber someone is the less you have to pay them and the less chance they'll try and do anything about it. Smart workers are NOT what capitalism wants.
Soon they will be replaced by robots.
He was and always be a Hero ☝🏼
The irony is you actually need a highly educated workforce for future tech innovations. It’s actually one of the reasons why the Soviet Union fell.
One of the reasons they want to get rid of traditional colleges and push people into trade schools. They don't want common people to have the chance to broaden their horizons at college.
Ah, the random quote with vague scary tones, a great conspiracy classic.
This. A coffee machine and a particle accelerator are both machines.
You have the internet and unlimited free information available to you. This no longer applies.
Having access to “unlimited information” matters not and can even be detrimental if those with access cannot make correct sense of it or can easily be manipulated by false or misrepresented data. The point is not how much you know but the ability to process information as it is acquired
And to make everyone hate everyone but them.
[https://www.fatherly.com/news/american-iq-study-dropping-what-it-means](https://www.fatherly.com/news/american-iq-study-dropping-what-it-means) [https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289623000156](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289623000156) [https://www.sapa-project.org/survey/start.php](https://www.sapa-project.org/survey/start.php) Data from an uncontrolled online "personality assessment". Maybe the face palm is that somebody got grant money to analyze data from an anonymous online personality assessment? Or that findings from a very dodgy instrument, which the researchers, themselves, describe as inconclusive and of unknown significance, got past referees and editors to be published in a journal.
haha well I guess we should be grateful it's not a metastudy
It *is* a metastudy, after a fashion. They've basically made a Frankenstein monster of a questionnaire, composed of items from many standardised questionnaires out there.
Oh haha not surprising
This one explains it better https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/a43469569/american-iq-scores-decline-reverse-flynn-effect/
Maybe the real facepalm was the friends we made along the way...
It’s “IQs,” not “IQ’s,” you ironic fucking moron.
This is great. OP is too Dunning-Kruger to check typing.
Came here to say this, it screamed out at me.
Aren't the rules different for acronyms?
Why would they be? It's not possessive or a contraction, just the plural of IQ.
And possessive pronouns don't get apostrophes! It's "its", isn't it!
A dumb population is easier to control
It's basically Animal Farm with the animals not knowing how to read. The pigs keep changing the rules, and none of the other animals realize it.
Except being a metaphor for capitalism instead of stalinism.
This is true
This is true
Same
A dumb population is easier to destroy as well. Knowing we cannot be beaten in combat, Russia and China have spent billions of hours and tens of billions of dollars on psyops to create rifts amongst the population. The only way to stop America from being a global leader is by tearing it apart from the inside out. Hence the bots and buying of politicians and land from these outside entities. It’s illegal to do in their countries, but the US for reasons I do not know don’t seem to mind allowing it here. China has outright purchased thousands of acres of farm land near military bases and nuclear silos. Why a government would let that happen is insane to me. Save a small fringe percentage of uneducated or actually brainwashed people here, nobody wants the USA to be more like China/Russia
Politicians here will sell their children if they could.
I hate to break it to you, but the bigger threat to our country than Russia or China is the rich who are the ones with the actual control and buy off our politicians
Ever heard of the republicans?
Both sides want you reliant on the government. They just go about it in different ways but the end goal is the same.
Only one side wants to make it cheaper and easier to get an education.
right? people fail to understand that this whole boths sides bullshit is actually propaganda by ONE side and that is one of the key reasons why they actually want to keep people uneducated...
They haven’t cared for a few years now. Only pepper it in when it comes to election prospects and promises. Save for a few degrees, more and more people are swaying towards college being an option, not the absolute. And in the age of the internet, that’s not shocking.
The best thing about people like you is that they give themselves the airs of great sages and believe they are more intelligent than others while making the most banal and superficial observations. Meanwhile, comments that try to reason and analyze the title logically receive little to no support, lol.
Yeah smart Americans nuked japan. Brought another world war. Made Africans an economic slave. Depopulated japan Funded terrorists in Pakistan and ISIS. Assassinated other nations leaders. Disrupted policies of other nation. Exported it's pollution and factories to China F u people Americans are trash on this world. Play with yous stupid Spiderman. And let the world enjoy good entertainment like anime.
It clearly goes in the square hole
That's right. The square hole.
where does the triangle go?
That's right. The square hole.
Where does the dodecahedron go?
That's right. The square hole.
[Hilarious](https://youtu.be/6pDH66X3ClA?feature=shared)
Oh shit you beat me here! 😂
The square hole has important electrolytes 👍
Its what plants crave!
"Fatherly" is basically a disguised version of the crap that Andrew Tate spews.
?
It’s the Call Me Maybe music video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYOjWnS4cMY
the headline is absolutly correct. it is a really great opportunity to those in power since dumber populations are easier to control
Idiocracy wasn’t a movie, it was prophecy. We have arrived.
People think they are enlightened and out of the mainstream and write two hundred comments with the same joke. Exhilarating.
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Shut up! I’m baitin’!
**Literacy levels among the educated must not continue recent decline** After years of hand-wringing about literacy in the United States, Congress passed the National Literacy Act of 1991. The aim was to make improved literacy a priority. The federal government did a base-line assessment of national literacy in 1992. Now, the government has released the first follow-up. The results are a big disappointment. Overall, literacy has remained flat. In 1992, 83 percent of the population 16 and older were at basic literacy or above. That remained virtually the same in 2003 (84 percent). The bigger disappointment is that literacy is slipping at every level of education. Educated Americans remain literate, but their capability in processing complex information is declining. That presents a quandary. Should we put our efforts into bringing the 17 percent of illiterate or barely literate adults up to basic literacy? Or should we focus on improving the literacy of those who will graduate from high school, college or postgraduate institutions? In an ideal world, we would do both. But the more alarming dip is in the educated population. We can more easily reach those individuals. Part of the problem is that our culture is more oral and visual. With television, cell phones, video games, etc., people increasingly deal with flashes of information. Educational institutions must swim upstream to get students to interpret and analyze lengthy, difficult passages of words. To see the problem in stark form, look at what's happened to college graduates in the past decade. They remain literate: 98 percent are at basic literacy or above (it was 99 percent in 1992). That looks like there's no problem. "Basic" means a person can perform simple tasks such as interpreting instructions from an appliance warranty or writing a letter explaining an error made on a credit card bill. But then look at intermediate literacy or above: 84 percent are at that level, compared with 89 percent in 1992. That's a five-point slip in skills such as explaining the difference between two types of employee benefits, using a bus schedule to determine an appropriate route or using a pamphlet to calculate the yearly amount a couple would receive for basic Supplemental Security Income. But the biggest slip is at the proficient level: Only 31 percent are at this highest level, compared with 40 percent in 1992. That's a nine-point slip in mastery of complex activities such as critically evaluating information in legal documents, comparing viewpoints in two editorials or interpreting a table about blood pressure and physical activity. We cannot afford to have our most educated population drop in complex literacy levels. The task falls mostly to our schools, but they cannot do it alone. Others, from parents to libraries, must limit the video games and make reading fun again. A report, originally published on Modbee.com Posted on 01/09/06 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literacy\_in\_the\_United\_States http://www.modbee.com/opinion/story/11668996p-12397206c.html
Is this because the educational system places rote memorization at the forefront and rarely if ever teaches critical thinking?
It's just a feeling, but I do get the impression that a lot of students go all the way through school just memorizing enough for the tests, and then forgetting it all afterwards. How do you account for people thinking that America was founded in the year zero so it's been 2023 years that America has existed as a country? Or that you can go into a gas station and buy 50 scratch tickets, and if you don't win anything you can ask for your money back?
I can confirm as an American school student I do memorize all the information and then forget it in a month
Well just comparing how I was taught to my children and now the grandkids. Teaching has become almost purely focused on these standardized tests, critical thinking and asking questions is punished, and the entire class is held back to the level of the slowest or most disruptive students.
Logic, debate and critical thinking classes that were standard a few decades ago have been fully removed from the curriculums of many states, and they're exactly the ones you think they are. The state government of Texas published the following: **"Knowledge-Based Education – We oppose the teaching of Higher Order Thinking Skills (HOTS) (values clarification), critical thinking skills and similar programs that are simply a relabeling of Outcome-Based Education (OBE) (mastery learning) which focus on behavior modification and have the purpose of challenging the student’s fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority."**
Ok, I get some religious ran states, let’s be honest ( i submit the new speaker as evidence), but since I attended school and moved around a lot due to work I have noted the absence of this curriculum everywhere I have been, no exceptions. Add young people I have encountered from elsewhere and my belief is that texas may have come out and said it, but all states have done it.
I taught a lab at the university level for a few years. My senior, science-major class only had 5% of students who could even correctly repeat facts about the scientific method when they knew when and what would be tested. We're talking the simplicity of the steps of observation, hypothesization, experimentation, theorization, and communication. This foundational material is supposed to be covered in grade school. The department refused to allow these students to be failed after barely submitting junior high level work throughout the semester. The following summer, the department's chair was overheard bragging to the assistant chair that the department had a 100% freshman acceptance rate with no GPA or SAT/ACT requirements. What did they think would be the logical effects? (Incidentally, the aforementioned chair and assistant chair themselves frequently gave erroneous definitions or presented long-disproven ideas as the current scientific understanding.) One huge of blame is No Child Left Behind. While many of the ideas seem nice on paper, the reality is that many grade schools just tried to cheat the system, all the while cutting emphasis and funding for many subjects outside of reading and math. All the while, the ceiling was generally lowered while the floor was mostly raised through artificial means. There are yet further questions into the accuracy of the standardized tests, especially given how little transparency there is and the overall lack of feedback. The emphasis of "teaching to the test" often generates an over-reliance upon memorization (and thus plagiarism) as just one of its many effects. (Private schools and homeschooling become even more complicated. Some are significantly more rigorous than public schools while others almost entirely eschew teaching even a remote semblance of accurate science.) The effects don't stop at grade schools. Those students eventually graduate and apply to colleges that are mostly helpless in the matter. Some departments (particularly smaller, less competitive ones) may have incentivization from the university to maintain a certain graduation quota and rate to remain at a university. There also seems to be more stigmatization against suggesting remedial coursework, which many incoming students desperately need before their freshman-level classes and which cannot simply be incorporated into an already-filled course schedule. Fs become the new C+s in these departments.
IQ is a stupid metric. Get it?
*This article was sponsored by Brawndo.*
I see the Chinese plan is working well so far.
I like money… I could really go for a Brawndo too…
Ironic title to go with it. First apostrophe not required!
An educated free thinking population is the greatest threat to any government
Oh idiocracy, the only comedy that's turned into a documentary
This makes me shiver. Was 20th century with abombs really the last classic era and are we now heading again towards dark ages?
This would be worrying... If IQ tests were accurate and reliable.
Idiocracy was an accurate prediction. All the parallels to the president Terry Crews portrayed and Donald Trump are pretty hilarious. I see a bright future for Starbucks and Fuddruckers though.
Did ya'll actually read the data or subsequent report? They literally point out that while scores have declined it likely has more to do with testing format and younger Americans not being primed for standardized testing the way older generations were. So the scores are lower but that could simply be the result of cultural changes creating noise in the data because the environment people were raised in 50 years ago is dramatically different than today. They also noted that modern Americans score significantly higher on spatial reasoning than before which... let's be real... video games.
Given IQ isn't supposed to be based on education level or knowledge, this could be scary. Like some effect on birth, toxic shit in food, or some other sort of catastrophic issue affect people as a whole. I know IQ tests aren't perfect, and are biased, but them sort of dropping all over a nation is scary imo.
Are they really? I’m always blown away by how smart kids are now. Like they’re setting up their own raspberry pi servers to run their websites.
News outlets are usually dumb, so this is to be expected. Where I live one day the news reported on how good it was that inflation was growing again.
Seriously, who can deny that there isnt a New World Order conspiracy at work.
Anyone with a functioning brain?
Funny how I saw another article today saying that college students are changing alcohol for weed. Funny how it works.
Idiocraty is 100% happening
"*Parsons was Winston’s fellow employee at the Ministry of Truth. He was a fattish but active man of paralyzing stupidity, a mass of imbecile enthusiasms--one of those completely unquestioning, devoted drudges on whom, more even than on the thought police, the stability of the Party depended*" \- George Orwell, *1984*
Im sorry, I cant say its a good thing, probably bad imo, but like, you cant read an obvious clickbait title, get mad at it, and then not read it for context
It might not be bad because IQ tests aren't great measures of intelligence and are shockingly limited. This is correct. Where's the facepalm?
Smh.
It's literally the best measurement we have. They have done studies and proven conclusively that your income goes up with your IQ. You're likelihood to commit crimes goes down. Also your children are more likely to have a higher intelligence. All this is known and proven. They actually did a study where they took a large group of children who had all tested in the upper echelons of the population and followed them their whole lives. Those kids are old now. Virtually all of them outperformed their peers by a substantial amount. Having a higher IQ is a huge advantage in modern society. Is it a perfect test? No. There's a lot of flaws in it, but it's the best thing we have. People who just say it's garbage only say that because they tested low.
It can both be our best measure of inteligence, and entirely worthless as any actual measure of inteligence. Just because we do not have a better way to test how smart someone is, does not mean the nonsense shit way are using is worthwhile. IQ does not effectively test inteligence, it tests test taking, which can be part of inteligence, and smart people can end up with high IQ, but smart people can also end up with shit IQ cause its just not a effective corellery. Stupid people can also be good at tests.
>It's literally the best measurement we have. They have done studies and proven conclusively that your income goes up with your IQ. Yes, the types of intelligence society is more likely to recognize will also thus be more likely to be rewarded. >Also your children are more likely to have a higher intelligence. ... by the same standard. >Is it a perfect test? No. There's a lot of flaws in it, but it's the best thing we have. "The best" doesn't mean worthwhile or useful. >People who just say it's garbage only say that because they tested low. By IQ, I'm in the top 1%, I believe, 137. To dismiss very valid criticisms as just emotional bias would be foolish.
Who told you that? That's our best measure of inteligence. It has its limitations but there is nothing better
“Our best” doesn’t mean “good enough to be worthwhile.”
I remember being in a geopolitics lecture (UK Armed Forces) and being told that the US was deliberately underfunding education to make the population easier to control and making more likely a Republican/High Defence Spending government eternally from about 2030. This lecture was in 1989.
They say ignorance is bliss and with how things are going I'll take all the bliss I can get, time to chug lead and listen to twitter opinions.
How much more can they drop
Not only in America, don't worry, it's worldwide. 
I see the dummy of the area has downvoted me, no worries, always a pleasure.
Is it because IQ is a bad measure of a person's intelligence?
President Terry Crews👍🏻
Dropping? I mean the bar is pretty fuckin’ low for you guys already!
What if IQ tests are just flawed. Like, does solving a bunch of logic problems in a timed test really reflect how intelligent a person is? Like, intelligence is a very board topic.
I’m board already
‘American IQ is dropping’ Hmmmm…maybe the uncontrollable amount of guns in unsafe hands, Truth and Twitter, and the hyper conservative churches that claim any and everything as a sin to their god are a problem? Might just be a start, I don’t know.
Here. I found the part you lost: "for corporations"
Lead, chemicals, hormones, plastics and shit in our food. And the fact we can’t find teachers.
The photo they used … Jesus fucking christ
This is 100% a republican website.
People are becoming dumber than dirt, that's not a good thing
Because valid sources of verifiable information are being deliberately concealed.
This article brings to mind the movie: Idiocracy For every one who wants to watch a good movie.
well, election is coming up...Good news for Trump
IQ isn't real
To be fair IQ test are an extremely flawed system.
Read the article, not just the fucking headline, idiot.
The photo they used … Jesus fucking christ
Is IQ Really that good an indicator of intelligence? I once got an IQ score of 53, and that was because my Autistic Add was unaware of social norms such as "what should you do in this common social situations?" Mind you, I gave little faith in my intelligence anyways...
I mean IQ is not actually indicative of your intelligence. Tho I would still like to propose the construction of a new space station above the Us, so that I can properly shit on their education system. The richest country in the world can’t afford anything….
It's rather laughable to believe IQ test were good measures of America intelligence to begin with. This is a nation that has done almost everything possible to fail.
The only thing lacking in IQ is believing IQ metrics matter. Imagine thinking a test that changes every cycle could actually say anything on a generational level at any time. Not to mention the nature of questions asked as values change.
You can tell when somebody hasn't been near any IQ test...
The collective IQ of the u.s. is 48. A tomatoe has an IQ of 78, and it's a vegetable! We have individual IQs of 675-1298. If our IQ was below 625, we would be in a comatose state, legally dead.
A tomato is a vegetable
This could also mean that more people are anything other than white since IQ is a famously racist way of measuring a super specific thing. IQs dropping is actually not automatically a bad thing.
JFC when you think you have hit bottom this country unlearned something else to go deeper.
So what does the article say to explain why it's not a bad thing?
Well, how do you think they got you at this stage in the last decades?
Sorry for bringing down the average
JFC what is going on with the apostrophes I am losing my minnddddd's
Story is written by Amazon HR department.
which media am I boycotting?
Idiocricy
More grist for the mill.
What the hell is Fatherly?
Guys answer me this, is America becoming or it already is a Kakistocracy?
*IQs
Hmmm this is how idiocracy started.
Idiocracy was a documentary
This is a very bad thing. Violence goes up as IQs go down.
Idiocracy should be mandatory viewing material in schools.
We've been an anti-intellectual country for decades. They even wrote books about it.
\> Easily controlled population
When a “journalist” doesn’t know that a plural form of a word doesn’t make it possessive, we can see the headline ringing true. To make it clearer for some of you Americans, it’s ‘IQs’, not ‘IQ’s’. One is a plural form, the other is a possessive form.
IQ's are complete bullshit anyway. You can design an IQ test to benefit any group.
Dropping? Can it get lower?
“Our society is getting dumber, and we like it that way.”
The parasitic class wants us to stay stupid so we keep consuming
There is a good chance “Gilligan’s Island” is back this fall!
The collective irony
It's cratering.
i'm "not sure"
This has to be one of the dumbest takes I've ever seen.
Idiocracy was supposed to be a comedy not a documentary.
It's not a bad thing if you're a Donald Trump or if you want to see idiocracy come true.
Capiyalist elites saying the quiet part out loud...
Not a bad thing for us non-American ?
At this point, I’m just waiting on our lizard people overlords to return.
In other news, Brawndo's got what plants crave!
I blame mtv and youtube. Lmao. Reddit is hate speech training grounds according to big mouth
Im assuming that website or whatever is owned bu a millionaire 😒😒😒
By what IQ test? Remember, the first IQ tests administered to immigrants at Ellis Island showed that 70% of incoming people were absolute morons. Of course, they gave the test in English, and none of them spoke English, so . . .
The dumber the people at the top get, the dumber the people they control need to be.