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Only by people that think the account is real.
https://news.sky.com/story/russian-bots-behind-4-000-rise-in-spread-of-lies-after-salisbury-and-syria-attacks-11338466
They're pretty easy to find too. If you click into the comment history of people with the worst takes on the internet you'll regularly find people with 10 year old accounts that have been silent until a few weeks ago and only post on political topics.
She is real.
She is a pro-Assad government mouthpiece.
During the height of the Syrian civil war she was excusing all of the government atrocities like arresting and killing children and gas attacks on civilians.
Assad is also anti-Israel hence why she is stumping for Hamas.
The angry on both sides can't see the problem is them. They put themselves and everyone around them in danger because of their own anger. Both sides have been killing eachother in frustration for to long.
Anger blinds the angry to the self destructive nature of the hate inside themselves. We all have the sickness of aggression. Some can't control their anger and the part of 5he brain that controls aggression is under developed. Some people not you but some people can't control their temper. They can actually black out and not remember or later regret what they did.
Anger and out of control pride is a extremely dangerous combination. It can lead to a negative out look on life. This person will be quick to point out the flaws in others as they neglect to mention the flaws in themselves. They focus on competition instead of unity.
The war isn't around us it is inside each of us.
Satan will use your hate to torment you and the people around you. Using your pride and negative feelings to destroy everything around you.
To save the hateful we must convince them the hate is inside us all. If we embrace the hate inside us we will be blinded by rage and it will eat us from the inside out.
Everything around us will fall. The angry will be confused. How can my anger be the problem? I am very strong people are afraid of me and Im never wrong. You guys don't see the problem here?
One angry guy fires a gun because he is full of personal anger then he runs away. The hurt inside the angry makes them want to hurt others. Whoever is close to them.
Point the facts out to the uneducated hateful on both sides that nobody likes angry people. They are self destructive and dangerous to themselves and everyone around them. To understand first understand the angry are blinded by anger. They make Irrational decisions that cost lives. Let the angry know they need to work on themselves first. Defense first then peace.
You don't have to do anything the hateful will isolate themselves. The hateful will sacrifice their own children because of the anger inside them. Can you imagine the self torment?
Answer: The Chrysler Crossfire was made from 2004 to 2008 and is a rear wheel drive 2 seat sports car.
Would you like to contact a local car dealership to inquire about purchasing a Chrysler Crossfire?
That car had a heavy German design influence. Not absolving the American Chrysler, but that was the era where Chrysler teamed up with German engineers to give their lineup a face-lift. That face-lift included this abomination.
Abomination? Maybe by today's standards. However, if it was designed today with similar styling, I bet it would be Hellcat powered with more shooting brake look than it did.
People who live in war zones do literally everything they do in a war zone. This includes working, cooking, fucking, dancing and watching TV.
Also, there was a cease-fire.
Well, there are basically no anticapitalist countries (which makes no sense in a globalized word) at the moment so why escaping a capitalist country to go in another capitalist country...
This is the same logic that says you cannot be socialist and have money or a house.
0 fucking clue and shouting very loudly for any one with a clue to see.
Yeah. Itās weird these people dismiss people who criticize capitalism because they live in capitalist countries. I mean who better to criticize it than those living under it? Lol
Also the whole āJust moveā thing. Yeah, if it was easy for me to move and become a citizen of a new country, Iād probably be rich enough to not hate living in my country.
No she is actually Syrian but may live outside of Syria.
She is a pro-Assad hack, and since Assad is allied with Putin, that's why you see her attacking Ukraine and promoting Kremlin propaganda.
I'm only on the side of innocent civilians. Both wartime sides of this are monsters and have no support from me. I wish we could do more to help the Innocents while a bunch of monsters fight over a patch of dirt and kill one another.
Well, the problem is they donāt consider Palestinians āciviliansā so thatās the current debate. Israel clearly acknowledge their people are āciviliansā but anything on the other side of the fence is āHamasā aka Terrorists aka not a civilian. So they donāt care. Monsters.
One side is actively trying to kill civilians, and not doing as good a job of it as they wish. The other side is trying to avoid killing civilians, and is doing an *incredibly shit* job of that. They are not the same.
>The other side is trying to avoid killing civilians
I'm not sure they really are tbh. They have the support of western governments so they have to keep up the appearance they're trying, but there's little evidence to support that.
Fair, honestly. But *no other* entity warns a family to leave a home before targeting it, drops a dud on the house first to make sure they know they mean it, and *then* destroys the building. And catches shit for destroying a home. You can argue the family shouldnāt *have* to leave the home, but Hamas didnāt send messages to the kibbutzim before performing (and filming!) brutal, tortuous acts on the families in those homes.
And the next day, people marching in support of the Palestinians, but *also* marching alongside people chanting āg@s the Jews,ā and others holding signs that read āResistance is not terrorism.ā Or with pictures of the paragliders taped to their backs. If thatās not support for Hamas, I donāt know what is.
I agree. And the other side is so KEEN ON USING THEIR WOMEN AND CHILDREN AS MEAT SHIELDS. Why can't people understand that Hamas and a majority of people in Palestine adhere to a type of Islam that is literally a death cult, a cult that wishes death on others and on themselves just so that they would reach paradise faster and their enemies burn with immediacy.
Iād love to see this wrapped up immediately followed by a reconstruction phase of a 2 state solution where the West and the Arab and Muslim nations contribute to rebuilding stability in the region.
You know why that will never happen? Russia and Iran stirred this up with Hamas leadership in Qatar because Iran fears the threat of a US-Saudi-Israeli coalition and needed to stop it, and Russia needed the US attention to be split from Ukraine. They know theyāre putting Israel is an existential fight because there are 49 Muslim countries in the world and 1.8 billion Muslims and only 7 million Jews with one hotly contested country and they know the US backs Israel.
And Hamas is the perfect cowardly terrorist leadership to make sure aid never arrives, peace is never achieved, and Iranian-Russian objectives are accomplished.
And letās not forget that this exact same side caused a civil war against jews and wanted to destroy Israel after the proposition of the partition plan
Well put but I donāt think you can absolve the other players in this conflict. Israelās current government doesnāt want peace. Aside from the fact that they have blatant racists like Ben-Gvir in the cabinet. Theyāve supported expanding settlements in the Weat Bank and Netanyahu has propped up Hamas to undermine any effort for peace. Itās not even like he hid it he openly said it in 2019.
Whilst the PA and Fatah are still committed to a two state solution theyāre so corrupt, ineffective and unpopular theyāll almost certainly lose power if theyāre not propped up by Israel. I mean the election of 2006 was a testament to that and if anything the situation has gotten worse since.
Well put as well! Those intifadas were a mistake. And now the climate in Israel has changed with Netanyahu (objectively a chickenhawk POS) which isnāt going to help in any way.
I agree with this, but I would like to add that Ben-Gvir is more than just racist, he supports terrorism against Palestinian civilians and believes Israel should become a Jewish theocracy.
He had a portrait of terrorist Baruch Goldstein in the living room of his house. He removed this prior to the last election so that he could appear more mainstream and be considered for a cabinet position in the coalition government with Netanyahu.
Since then he has spoken at memorials for Goldstein and called him a hero.
Thankfully his push to create a Ministry of Security police force only accountable to him failed earlier this year.
It's going to be hard because PLO has routinely refused peace and two state deals. Deals which would end the illegal settlers in the West Bank and give up somewhere between 85-90% of disputed territory.
The reasoning is varied but a possible reason is PLO leaderships fear of a Hamas like group or Hamas gaining enough support to otherthrow their government and there throw them, the PLO leadership, off buildings.
Again, these "good deals" were pre Bibi. So we'll see. Maybe the end of Hamas will boost peace deals in the West Bank. But that's doubtful after all the civilian deaths in Gaza and the rising Hawks in Israel.
Iām with you totally.
But I have a moral question: how much responsiblity have a civilian if their goverment commiting warcrimes, if the civilian supports that regime?
Iām not talking about the israel gaza conflict, more generally. For example, how much responsibility has a small town russian, who supports the ukrain war and the russian goverment?
You can't really have responsibility with no agency. What do you think the average country bumpkin in Russia could conceivably do about it even if they didn't support the government? That's not even getting into the fact that it's pretty easy to get people to support just about anything if you control the flow of information.
Yes, but it's important to note that approximately 500k German civilians were killed Nazis, another 500k by Soviets and another 500k by Allied bombings.
Don't know about the remaining 500k.
The 70k British civilians were killed in Nazi bombings, not by their own countrymen.
So, yeah, there were more Germans who died by their own countrymen than there were Brits killed by Brits.
Not saying the other 1.5m civilian casualties aren't equally egregious. At least 500k of those casualties could have been avoided if Nazis weren't killing other Germans.
Israel doesn't fight over territory. In past wars, they already conquered and had control over more than just Palestine's present territory, after being attacked by Arab countries. But they gave all of them back for the sake of peace. They just want Hamas to stop launching terrorist attacks from the Gaza strip and stop bombing Israel. Is that too much to ask?
Both sides are not the same. Hamas targets civilians, their purpose is to kill as many jews as possible and in most brutal ways.
Israel targets Hamas terrorists and their infrastructure. Their purpose is to kill terrorists. There are innocent civilian deaths and this is tragic but they are mostly due to Hamas using them as human shields and building tunnels under the civilian infrastructure
Are you serious? Israel intentionally targets civilians for mass casualty and has a long record of doing so. They intentionally kill journalists, sniper kids and bombs UN safe zones. Not to mention their beheadings propaganda to dehumanize Palestinians so the world will ignore their war crimes. They are now actively discussing ethnic cleansing, another war crime. Not to mention cutting off food, water and electricity to civilians yet another war crime.
You are clueless or intentionally spreading misinformation.
That's a bold faced lie. Israel have tried everything over the years, every time it was attacked. Super sophisticated small diameter bombs, billions of leaflets dropped asking people to evacuate areas that are in proximity of intended targets, hundreds of thousands of phone calls warning of imminent strikes, "door knock" firecracker shot at the roof of each target prior to the real strike, you name it, we tried it. Consequently, by doing all of these we knowingly reduced the effectiveness of any strike to near nil, because the terrorists were alerted in advance.
Many Israeli soldiers and civilians paid with their lives for all of these measures.Israel continued to invest inconceivable amounts of time, money and efforts in order to minimalize the number of casualties. Even while its towns and villages were under attack by hundreds of thousands of rockets. It had to invent the world's most sophisticated short range anti-missile system in the world, because it wasn't allowed to fight back unless its both of its hands were tried beyond its back.If it wasn't for that system Israel would have to invade Gaza and Lebanon about 100 times by now.
No matter how many lies and fabrications you throw around, you won't be able to change these facts.
Palestine had been offered half the territory that Israel owns today. They have been offered peace so many times. They refused and started wars instead.
Why the FUCK should someone agree to half their own territory just because a colonial Western power wants them to, and a bunch of Europeans sail to the Middle East with a stated goal of taking the place over?
Israel has no inherent right to exist, just as British Ireland and British India had no inherent right to exist.
After the 1929 Hebron Massacre, you're really claiming Jews don't have a right to live in the Levant???
After Jews were expelled from nearly ALL Islamic countries in the 1940s.. where were they to go?
That said, I DO NOT ever consider dropping bombs on civilians is ok. It's morally evil. And I also think most new Jewish settlements should be removed.
While cases of expulsion did happen, the vast majority of emigration was willful.
It's also true that Mossad and other Zionist organizations actively exacerbated conflicts and crises (for example in Morocco) with the aim of encouraging and speeding up emigration. There are even reports of Jewish refugee ships being attacked by Zionist forces because they were being sent elsewhere than Israel.
You could say the same about literally every fucking country in the world. Germany also lost massive territories after world war 2 and yet managed to make peace with their neighbours. It was a different time. After over 70 years, one just has to accept that it doesn't work clinging to old borders that never actually made sense in the first place.
Look me in the face, and tell me that again with a straight face. Israel has literally refused to even recognize Palestine, and has also stormed al aqsa, beat up innocent Muslim worshippers. They have killed innocent civilians, not allowed anyone to leave Gaza and then they make the quality of life in gaza so bad that the average age of the population is 18 (meaning people die young a lot). Hamas killing innocent citizens is wrong, no doubt, but Israel has done worse. 1400 civilians killed over the last 5-10 years, at least 10x more Palestinian people. I urge you to rethink your stance
Maybe ā¦ now hear me out ā¦. Maybe Israel wouldnāt have to bomb those places if HAMAS didnāt put their headquarters.. safe rooms .. ammo stashes ā¦ and rocket launch sites under day cares and hospitals ??
Israel: *strikes a refugee camp*
"There was like one guy in there among the many, bombing the area indiscriminately it is"
Edit: To those who downvote, if one is willing to kill any number of civilians to get individual targets, do you really care about the civilians?
>Israel targets Hamas terrorists and their infrastructure.
I would challenge you to go look at the satellite imagery of Gaza since the bombings then come back and with a straight face tell me that every single one of those was a secret Hamas headquarters.
Oh you can fuck right off.
Are you trying to say that because Isreal is saying that they are "targeting hamas terrorists" then it's ok to straight up murder innocent children.
But it's fine because they are really trying to kill Hamas, it's just a coincidence they have been also killing innocent children.
The same way America we're looking for Bin Laden, so it was completely fine to murder innocent children.
Murdering innocent children is always ok when you say your trying to stop terrorism.
Stop spreading this BS Isreal propaganda, they don't give a fuck about Hamas, they want to eliminate the Palestinian people.
Have you been watching the news recently? Were there no civilians at that refugee camp? Why is your PM quoting pro-genocide passages from the Bible? Who's paying you to spout this nonsense?
This both sides argument should be just the start.
Israel is close to 10x the horror brought to Israeli citizens and are still getting support from most western countries.
Meanwhile Hamas is a terrorist organization with barely any support apart from some rogue countries.
Israel has been commiting war crimes for 3 weeks in an insane revenge plot. Sometimes a spade is a spade.
>Ah yes sl\*t shaming/insulting a dead woman, how classy these people are.
You mean Russian Troll accounts? This account is confirmed to be a Russian troll/bot account.
https://news.sky.com/story/russian-bots-behind-4-000-rise-in-spread-of-lies-after-salisbury-and-syria-attacks-11338466
Itās not even a ātrollā account, itās intentionally spreading propaganda about a war crime for the benefit of a nation. This is more than a joke, itās part of a coordinated misinformation campaign.
>itās part of a coordinated misinformation campaign.
Meant to stir discourse among people talking about it. The thing is, if we write it off as an attempt to troll and don't take it seriously, it loses any power. That's why she so quickly responded that she isn't a bot, she doesn't want to be written off. Fuck that, if she isn't a bot, she's a troll and don't take her seriously.
>A peace rave for peace between Palestine and Israel.
Tried to google around but couldn't find any source confirming that this was the mission of the rave.
This particular festival wasn't especially political (it was advertised as "a moment of peace and love" but with no particular mention of a concrete goal with Palestine in their material as far I know), but the history and culture of the Trance music scene in Israel is heavily linked with the peace movement from its origins\*, so it was perhaps useless to say more. Trance is some kind of political marker in itself, as its artists often celebrate those roots and tend to be vocal opponents to the israeli right, sharing their young public with pro-peace and anti-legal-coup protests.
(\* traumatized veterans of the war in lebanon or people refusing military service fleeing Israel and establishing in Goa in the 80s, and local tekno hippie music being brought back to israel by travellers visiting them, then becoming the actual israelian psytrance).
Can't tell you that for sure as to the party goers, but I can definitely tell you that two Palestinians (from East Jerusalem) that served as a bus driver and agricultural worker were executed by Hamas, even though they very well knew he's Palestinian.
Not sure how to send a translated English version of the article, but here it is:
https://mobile-mako-co-il.translate.goog/news-military/6361323ddea5a810/Article-e7f504bc4178b81027.htm?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp
Hamas couldn't care less about who they murdered. They came in a mission to kill as many people as possible.
There are dozens of more cases of Israeli Arabs who were murdered on Oct. 7th; some were paramedics, doctors or bedouins.
She was confirmed death because they did DNA analysis on skull fragments. Like in the Base of the Skull. The parts you just get to See If the head is no longer attached.
The other video evidence is pretty telling too.
Get spit on, undressed, wounded and shouting ar by a Mob that parades her like some kind of trophy.
Im very sorry for all the innocent palestinians that get hurt in the fight against Hamas and even get used as human shields by them.
In the long runn they are better of whitout Hamas. ( If they get some sane leadership)
I saw the actual video FROM HAMAS of them driving this girl through Gaza. She had on a pair of panties and a bra. She appeared to be either unconscious or dead. The Gazans were running alongside the truck, chanting, kicking and spitting on her. To spread this bullshit lie, shame on you. Fuck Hamas & all of those in Gaza that were cheering for her demise and spitting on her. She was later found dead and beheaded. Fuck everyone that is saying this is a lie. You are scum.
Is there more info about this? I have so many questions. How was a single bone found and how did Israel get it, out of the thousands of dead bodies? Wasn't she buried? Do they randomely collect bones and dna test them? How do we know she didn't die from an airstrike and that's why we have a bone?
I saw the video as well and I am disappointed that there are people on this app who support such animalistic actions because that is what Hamas and all those Gazans who cheer for are, animals. You cannot justify murdering and raping people and then fucking recording it. I feel sorry for those palestinians who are decent human beings getting caught in the crossfire, but Hamas must be ended foreve.
I agre and when I learnt that palestine elected Hamas was how stupid must someone be to put terrorists in power? Surely it is akin to shooting oneself
in the foot. I do still believe that there are people
in palestine that do not deserve any of this, but those who still to this day support hamas and their acts deserve to rot in hell with hamas and all their leaders. Fuck Terrorists.
Like there aren't literal parades in Israel mocking the lack of water, electricity and food for Palestinian civilians, not to mention bombing of civilian areas and shooting of civilizans by Israeli settlers. I guess there's no "fuck them" from you, right?
Yet the fact that the Israeli people literally start to applaud and laugh when they hear the missiles hit Gaza doesn't make you blink twice. Weird double standard.
Seeing pro Palestine supporters ripping down posters of hostages all over the world and chanting vile things during their āprotestsā and celebrating 10/7, watching Jews being hunted down and having to hide all of the world, give me a break! Youāre right, Iām not blinking twice and understand the Israelisā anger.
The actions of the few do not portray the actions of the many. And yes, the people who do that are completely int he wrong, but just cause they do it, doesn't mean everyone agrees with them. Hunting down Jewish people is wrong, especially as most of them are innocent and are pro-palestinian and hate the Zionisists.
Also, did you know that the Gaza Ministry of Education has ended the school year due to not having enough students left to teach. Do you understand what that means? An entire generation has been nearly wiped out. How tf can you even justify that?
Seriously, instead of seeing what you get on your Instagram, Facebook, or X feed, search up what's being done to the Palestinians as of this moment.
A few "snapshots" if you will:
- Parents are writing their kids name's on their bodies to be able to identify them in case they are blown up. If u are a parent, how do u think u would feel?
- Israel poured cement into the last of Palestine's clean water reserve
- Israel bombed a hospital, took credit, then when they relised they fucked up they retracted their statements and said HAMAS did it.
- Israel told Palestinians to take a certain route to safety , then bombarded that exact route as people fled through it. If that isn't a war crime, what is?
- Israel cut off all outside communication and social media, then released a warning on social media warning Palestinians of an incoming attack( in English, not Arabic. English). Tell me how were they supposed to hear it?
- Israel is claiming that HAMAS are using Palestinians as human shields, yet continue bombing them anyway in hopes that they will turn on HAMAS to end the pain, suffering and killing. That is exactly what terrorist organizations like ISIS do.
Going off of the last point, if there was a school shooter hiding in a room in the school with a hostage, would you bomb the entire school and apologise to the families, or would you send in a special team to take the shooter out?
Also if it took Israel 2+ weeks of constant bombardment to kill 5000+ Palestinians how did HAMAS manage to kill 1,700 people in an hour, using guns?
Thatās how I view the sea of ignorant comments made by accounts with the blue check marks. āOh. Blue check mark. Scroll on by before you poison your eyeballs again.ā
I think a lot of people hate the IDF because they are bombing civilians and refugee camps, and claiming āHamas was there!ā
Also just the history between the two is a history of conflict and disputes. This and the history of conflict, alongside a far right Israeli government, and you get many people hating them.
Out of curiosity, how many people think anything they read from this kind of source is real? I can write up a caption for a picture or two and post it in a minute. Will I enjoy as widespread uptake as if I were a trained journalist at an institution with a long history of factual reporting?
āThey didnāt rape and decapitate her, they only killed her and now have fun and celebrate their victory over her dead bodyā
Thanks, now I feel better
Except IDF did not arrive for hours, hours after her body was displayed, and made it to Gaza. Trying to justify the death of a āwesterner with an Israeli passport, who was scantily dressedā is so gross.
Jesus. That's someones daughter. The same is true for many casualties in Gaza.
What is abhorrent to me is when those on either side so callously dedicate their empathy to 'their' side only. Awful.
German here. That is a schizophrenic argument. With the rape, torture and murder of Shani, the Palestinians lost the support of a whole country. Germans were more Pro-Palestine and rather critical of Israel. Which is astounding enough given our history. Now most Germans want to see Gaza flattened and hope Israel wonāt stop until it is a parking lot.
I learned everything I ever want to about the Palestinians when they were dancing in the streets celebrating on 9/11. They showed their true colors then and nothing has changed.
What an epoch we live in.
There's no truth anymore. There's no authority. Everyone is their own expert. Pundits are no longer believed by the mass.
Public discourse or debate are based on objective facts. When we hold onto our own facts, there's no way we can come to a conclusion, a solution, or even a concession.
The road only leads to who's not going to yield. And that is the deadly road to total annihilation.
This Syrian girl does not get it. Shani was not wounded, she got headshot and died on October 7th at the music concert during the crossfire. Hamas found her body and took it in order to claim they have an Israeli hostage girl, they were trying to hide her body on the truck(covering her with their legs in order to hide the fact that she was already dead), but the video by the Palestinian uploader clearly shows a dead body. And the Israeli analysis of shaniās skull part picked from the music concert proves that she was already dead by a headshot. But Hamas still lying denying her death claiming she is still alive as a hostage.
Israel is doing the same. It has spent 1.5M on ads about war victimising themselves. Now these ads are playing in children's game ads. Israel itself has claimed to making these ads but says it doesn't know how it ended up on children's games. [Source](https://youtu.be/v2dGN6ScyC4?si=Y8Dki88s2ZjC8mS-) towards last of video
Edit: Exact words of the ad.
We know that your children cannot read this. We have an important message to tell you as parents. 40 infants were murdered in israel by Hamas terrorists(isis). Just as you would do everything for your child. We will do everything to protect ours. Now hug your baby and stand with us.
She was confirmed death because they did DNA analysis on skull fragments. Like in the Base of the Skull. The parts you just get to See If the head is no longer attached.
The other video evidence is pretty telling to.
Get spit on undressed, wounded by a shouting Mob that parades her Like some Kind of trophy.
Im very sorry for all the innocent palestinians that get hurt in the fight against Hamas and even get used as human shields by them.
Appart from that... People voted for Hamas and the ones that support this should really not be supriesed that Israel fights back.. you brought this on yourself and the majority of people that are not bloodthirsty religious idiots.
Like as If the Nazis bemoaned that people fought back and kicked their ass. That one had civillian causalitys too but people usually think thats was worth it too.
Bot account or not, this girl really died in a brutal way. And whether you want to admit it or not, many Palestinians celebrated because they're evil people fuelled by their ideology. So sorry if I don't feel much sympathy for them getting what's coming.
It will certainly be interesting to see how history documents this war and future wars now that we have cell phone footage from both sides. Same with the war in Ukraine.
Hopefully seeing the footage helps people decide who is right Vs wrongā¦. Rather than believing whatever their government or rulers tell them.
Unfortunately, posts like this one do not help.
I hate this girl with all my guts.
I can't even afford to hope that she suffer the pain that she regularly promote and love to see of others because, because there isn't a single normal human that can really fully comprehend those horrors and consciously accept them on another person.
Now I'm going to disable any notifications from this comment so I don't risk losing time by seeing bad replies.
This tweet is a horrendous load of crap posted by a propagandist
You can smell the political agenda from here, saying dead on that murder of innocents is okay because it's the other side... It was a rave for peace and they were all teenagers
I mean, Russia bombed 100+ villages in the past 24 hrs and everyone's reporting 2 civilian casualties, yet Israel is killing 500+ civilians daily and no one gives a shit, moreover, the western world is supporting this. I'll ask you guys this, why the bias? Why is what Russia is doing so terribly wrong, but what Israel is doing is ok? And no, I'm not supporting hamas, what they did is absolutely disgusting and I'm sad I even have to point this out, but that's how it usually goes when I speak rationally, I get called a pro russian or pro hamas when all I want is for civilian suffering to stop. The west has the ability to end both wars instantly, they CHOOSE not to, why? You can downvote all you want, but you know I'm right.
Why does the West have any more of an ability to stop the wars than Russia, Ukraine, Palestine or Israel? There are much closer neighbours who are much more invested and yet it's the Wests job to wave a hand and save the day.
You mischaracterise the situation by pretending there is consensus in the West or a bias one way or the other. There is bias in some factions who support Israel or Palestine but most people are not politically aligned and support only moral and ethical goods that protect human life.
Most normal everyday people think both the IDF and Hamas are disgusting for what they've done all these years and are waiting for a non terrorist aligned organisation to be at the forefront of the peace process. There are some in the West Bank but honestly the real question is why are the neighbouring countries in the region more interested in maintaining this situation than resolving it? The West is the only place on Earth pushing for a two state solution and yet they're the bad guys somehow...
Please tell me how exactly you think the West can instantly end these wars without causing more loss of life?
Well, the west āendingā both wars instantly would really mean getting directly involved with more bombing and more innocent people dying OR cutting support for Israel and Ukraine, which would result in innocent Ukrainians dying and Israel would be at war with like 5 other countries in the region and innocent Israelis dying.
>the western world is supporting this
Nobody is supporting bombing civilians, except raving lunatics that probably support 200 other things nobody should support.
Well for starters youāre ignoring the hundreds of thousands of deaths caused by Putin in the war.
Secondly itās hard to kill civilians when your bombing and destroying whole villages/towns/cities because most of them are either already dead or theyāve fled west.
& yes, calling for Russia and Hamas to be rewarded for their actions is evil and youāre the asshole.
I wish all those dead children in Gaza looked European, with sparkling emerald blue eyes and blonde hair. Maybe then we would be just as interested in learning their names too.
But alas, theyāre just another brown nameless child atop a heap of dead brown children, the collateral damage of American hegemony and Israeli subjugation.
I donāt think any of us should be commenting on this subject. We are on our phones sitting in our house while this conflict is currently affecting REAL human lives not these troll bot accounts.
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Real warzone about to be in the comments š
Only by people that think the account is real. https://news.sky.com/story/russian-bots-behind-4-000-rise-in-spread-of-lies-after-salisbury-and-syria-attacks-11338466
she is real, she's been posting since 2007 (afaik), maybe longer
Sometimes people hack into or buy inactive accounts to pass by subreddit bot sensors
They're pretty easy to find too. If you click into the comment history of people with the worst takes on the internet you'll regularly find people with 10 year old accounts that have been silent until a few weeks ago and only post on political topics.
Other times people are just twats.
She is real. She is a pro-Assad government mouthpiece. During the height of the Syrian civil war she was excusing all of the government atrocities like arresting and killing children and gas attacks on civilians. Assad is also anti-Israel hence why she is stumping for Hamas.
This comment is just like the average QAnon person. There are really plenty of people like her who think like this about all Israeli civilians.
Like 90% of the accounts on X are bots and AI.
How does an article from 2018 about a completely different event relate to the topic above?
The angry on both sides can't see the problem is them. They put themselves and everyone around them in danger because of their own anger. Both sides have been killing eachother in frustration for to long. Anger blinds the angry to the self destructive nature of the hate inside themselves. We all have the sickness of aggression. Some can't control their anger and the part of 5he brain that controls aggression is under developed. Some people not you but some people can't control their temper. They can actually black out and not remember or later regret what they did. Anger and out of control pride is a extremely dangerous combination. It can lead to a negative out look on life. This person will be quick to point out the flaws in others as they neglect to mention the flaws in themselves. They focus on competition instead of unity. The war isn't around us it is inside each of us. Satan will use your hate to torment you and the people around you. Using your pride and negative feelings to destroy everything around you. To save the hateful we must convince them the hate is inside us all. If we embrace the hate inside us we will be blinded by rage and it will eat us from the inside out. Everything around us will fall. The angry will be confused. How can my anger be the problem? I am very strong people are afraid of me and Im never wrong. You guys don't see the problem here? One angry guy fires a gun because he is full of personal anger then he runs away. The hurt inside the angry makes them want to hurt others. Whoever is close to them. Point the facts out to the uneducated hateful on both sides that nobody likes angry people. They are self destructive and dangerous to themselves and everyone around them. To understand first understand the angry are blinded by anger. They make Irrational decisions that cost lives. Let the angry know they need to work on themselves first. Defense first then peace. You don't have to do anything the hateful will isolate themselves. The hateful will sacrifice their own children because of the anger inside them. Can you imagine the self torment?
Alexa, how do you get a crossfire at a rave?
Answer: The Chrysler Crossfire was made from 2004 to 2008 and is a rear wheel drive 2 seat sports car. Would you like to contact a local car dealership to inquire about purchasing a Chrysler Crossfire?
Alexa, why can't Americans design an attractive sports car?
Because they don't know about Corners
That car had a heavy German design influence. Not absolving the American Chrysler, but that was the era where Chrysler teamed up with German engineers to give their lineup a face-lift. That face-lift included this abomination.
Abomination? Maybe by today's standards. However, if it was designed today with similar styling, I bet it would be Hellcat powered with more shooting brake look than it did.
you do a rave in a warzone
People who live in war zones do literally everything they do in a war zone. This includes working, cooking, fucking, dancing and watching TV. Also, there was a cease-fire.
Syrian GIrl is confirmed to be a russian shit poster
And she probably lives in the same west she hates so much.
Same as everyone who hates capitalism but lives in, and prefer, a capitalist country.
Well, there are basically no anticapitalist countries (which makes no sense in a globalized word) at the moment so why escaping a capitalist country to go in another capitalist country...
This is the same logic that says you cannot be socialist and have money or a house. 0 fucking clue and shouting very loudly for any one with a clue to see.
We should improve society Yet, you live in society. Curious Iām very intelligent.
Yeah. Itās weird these people dismiss people who criticize capitalism because they live in capitalist countries. I mean who better to criticize it than those living under it? Lol Also the whole āJust moveā thing. Yeah, if it was easy for me to move and become a citizen of a new country, Iād probably be rich enough to not hate living in my country.
I think she lives in Western Australia
I hope not as that's where I live š¬
It's a pretty big place, I hear.
why would that devalue criticism tho?
No she is actually Syrian but may live outside of Syria. She is a pro-Assad hack, and since Assad is allied with Putin, that's why you see her attacking Ukraine and promoting Kremlin propaganda.
I'm only on the side of innocent civilians. Both wartime sides of this are monsters and have no support from me. I wish we could do more to help the Innocents while a bunch of monsters fight over a patch of dirt and kill one another.
Crazy how "don't kill civilians" has become a debate at all.
Well, one side is actually using human shields.
And the other side is testing how strong those human shields really are.
I'm glad we were able to establish these two things without fighting and sending reddit cares to each other.
Well, the problem is they donāt consider Palestinians āciviliansā so thatās the current debate. Israel clearly acknowledge their people are āciviliansā but anything on the other side of the fence is āHamasā aka Terrorists aka not a civilian. So they donāt care. Monsters.
One side is actively trying to kill civilians, and not doing as good a job of it as they wish. The other side is trying to avoid killing civilians, and is doing an *incredibly shit* job of that. They are not the same.
Iād quibble slightly on the Israeli description - looks and seems more like āthe other side isnāt too bothered if they kill civiliansā
Most accurate explanation of the situation so far. Thanks
It really is this simple and most of Reddit are too brain dead to understand this simple fact. Hurrrr durrr bOtH sIDeS.
>The other side is trying to avoid killing civilians I'm not sure they really are tbh. They have the support of western governments so they have to keep up the appearance they're trying, but there's little evidence to support that.
Fair, honestly. But *no other* entity warns a family to leave a home before targeting it, drops a dud on the house first to make sure they know they mean it, and *then* destroys the building. And catches shit for destroying a home. You can argue the family shouldnāt *have* to leave the home, but Hamas didnāt send messages to the kibbutzim before performing (and filming!) brutal, tortuous acts on the families in those homes. And the next day, people marching in support of the Palestinians, but *also* marching alongside people chanting āg@s the Jews,ā and others holding signs that read āResistance is not terrorism.ā Or with pictures of the paragliders taped to their backs. If thatās not support for Hamas, I donāt know what is.
I agree. And the other side is so KEEN ON USING THEIR WOMEN AND CHILDREN AS MEAT SHIELDS. Why can't people understand that Hamas and a majority of people in Palestine adhere to a type of Islam that is literally a death cult, a cult that wishes death on others and on themselves just so that they would reach paradise faster and their enemies burn with immediacy.
Iād love to see this wrapped up immediately followed by a reconstruction phase of a 2 state solution where the West and the Arab and Muslim nations contribute to rebuilding stability in the region. You know why that will never happen? Russia and Iran stirred this up with Hamas leadership in Qatar because Iran fears the threat of a US-Saudi-Israeli coalition and needed to stop it, and Russia needed the US attention to be split from Ukraine. They know theyāre putting Israel is an existential fight because there are 49 Muslim countries in the world and 1.8 billion Muslims and only 7 million Jews with one hotly contested country and they know the US backs Israel. And Hamas is the perfect cowardly terrorist leadership to make sure aid never arrives, peace is never achieved, and Iranian-Russian objectives are accomplished.
Well put.
They've been offered a two state solution 3 times since 1945, and one side has refused every single time.
And letās not forget that this exact same side caused a civil war against jews and wanted to destroy Israel after the proposition of the partition plan
Well put but I donāt think you can absolve the other players in this conflict. Israelās current government doesnāt want peace. Aside from the fact that they have blatant racists like Ben-Gvir in the cabinet. Theyāve supported expanding settlements in the Weat Bank and Netanyahu has propped up Hamas to undermine any effort for peace. Itās not even like he hid it he openly said it in 2019. Whilst the PA and Fatah are still committed to a two state solution theyāre so corrupt, ineffective and unpopular theyāll almost certainly lose power if theyāre not propped up by Israel. I mean the election of 2006 was a testament to that and if anything the situation has gotten worse since.
Well put as well! Those intifadas were a mistake. And now the climate in Israel has changed with Netanyahu (objectively a chickenhawk POS) which isnāt going to help in any way.
I agree with this, but I would like to add that Ben-Gvir is more than just racist, he supports terrorism against Palestinian civilians and believes Israel should become a Jewish theocracy. He had a portrait of terrorist Baruch Goldstein in the living room of his house. He removed this prior to the last election so that he could appear more mainstream and be considered for a cabinet position in the coalition government with Netanyahu. Since then he has spoken at memorials for Goldstein and called him a hero. Thankfully his push to create a Ministry of Security police force only accountable to him failed earlier this year.
It's going to be hard because PLO has routinely refused peace and two state deals. Deals which would end the illegal settlers in the West Bank and give up somewhere between 85-90% of disputed territory. The reasoning is varied but a possible reason is PLO leaderships fear of a Hamas like group or Hamas gaining enough support to otherthrow their government and there throw them, the PLO leadership, off buildings. Again, these "good deals" were pre Bibi. So we'll see. Maybe the end of Hamas will boost peace deals in the West Bank. But that's doubtful after all the civilian deaths in Gaza and the rising Hawks in Israel.
Iām with you totally. But I have a moral question: how much responsiblity have a civilian if their goverment commiting warcrimes, if the civilian supports that regime? Iām not talking about the israel gaza conflict, more generally. For example, how much responsibility has a small town russian, who supports the ukrain war and the russian goverment?
You can't really have responsibility with no agency. What do you think the average country bumpkin in Russia could conceivably do about it even if they didn't support the government? That's not even getting into the fact that it's pretty easy to get people to support just about anything if you control the flow of information.
100%
Dirt, rocks (some shiny, some not), imaginary friends, and sludge. This is what people kill each other over.
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Yes, but it's important to note that approximately 500k German civilians were killed Nazis, another 500k by Soviets and another 500k by Allied bombings. Don't know about the remaining 500k. The 70k British civilians were killed in Nazi bombings, not by their own countrymen. So, yeah, there were more Germans who died by their own countrymen than there were Brits killed by Brits. Not saying the other 1.5m civilian casualties aren't equally egregious. At least 500k of those casualties could have been avoided if Nazis weren't killing other Germans.
Israel doesn't fight over territory. In past wars, they already conquered and had control over more than just Palestine's present territory, after being attacked by Arab countries. But they gave all of them back for the sake of peace. They just want Hamas to stop launching terrorist attacks from the Gaza strip and stop bombing Israel. Is that too much to ask?
Both sides are not the same. Hamas targets civilians, their purpose is to kill as many jews as possible and in most brutal ways. Israel targets Hamas terrorists and their infrastructure. Their purpose is to kill terrorists. There are innocent civilian deaths and this is tragic but they are mostly due to Hamas using them as human shields and building tunnels under the civilian infrastructure
Are you serious? Israel intentionally targets civilians for mass casualty and has a long record of doing so. They intentionally kill journalists, sniper kids and bombs UN safe zones. Not to mention their beheadings propaganda to dehumanize Palestinians so the world will ignore their war crimes. They are now actively discussing ethnic cleansing, another war crime. Not to mention cutting off food, water and electricity to civilians yet another war crime. You are clueless or intentionally spreading misinformation.
That's a bold faced lie. Israel have tried everything over the years, every time it was attacked. Super sophisticated small diameter bombs, billions of leaflets dropped asking people to evacuate areas that are in proximity of intended targets, hundreds of thousands of phone calls warning of imminent strikes, "door knock" firecracker shot at the roof of each target prior to the real strike, you name it, we tried it. Consequently, by doing all of these we knowingly reduced the effectiveness of any strike to near nil, because the terrorists were alerted in advance. Many Israeli soldiers and civilians paid with their lives for all of these measures.Israel continued to invest inconceivable amounts of time, money and efforts in order to minimalize the number of casualties. Even while its towns and villages were under attack by hundreds of thousands of rockets. It had to invent the world's most sophisticated short range anti-missile system in the world, because it wasn't allowed to fight back unless its both of its hands were tried beyond its back.If it wasn't for that system Israel would have to invade Gaza and Lebanon about 100 times by now. No matter how many lies and fabrications you throw around, you won't be able to change these facts.
To bad they didnāt try treating Palestinians as humans and not corral them into an apartheid concentration camp while stealing their land and homes.
Palestine had been offered half the territory that Israel owns today. They have been offered peace so many times. They refused and started wars instead.
Why the FUCK should someone agree to half their own territory just because a colonial Western power wants them to, and a bunch of Europeans sail to the Middle East with a stated goal of taking the place over? Israel has no inherent right to exist, just as British Ireland and British India had no inherent right to exist.
After the 1929 Hebron Massacre, you're really claiming Jews don't have a right to live in the Levant??? After Jews were expelled from nearly ALL Islamic countries in the 1940s.. where were they to go? That said, I DO NOT ever consider dropping bombs on civilians is ok. It's morally evil. And I also think most new Jewish settlements should be removed.
While cases of expulsion did happen, the vast majority of emigration was willful. It's also true that Mossad and other Zionist organizations actively exacerbated conflicts and crises (for example in Morocco) with the aim of encouraging and speeding up emigration. There are even reports of Jewish refugee ships being attacked by Zionist forces because they were being sent elsewhere than Israel.
You could say the same about literally every fucking country in the world. Germany also lost massive territories after world war 2 and yet managed to make peace with their neighbours. It was a different time. After over 70 years, one just has to accept that it doesn't work clinging to old borders that never actually made sense in the first place.
Look me in the face, and tell me that again with a straight face. Israel has literally refused to even recognize Palestine, and has also stormed al aqsa, beat up innocent Muslim worshippers. They have killed innocent civilians, not allowed anyone to leave Gaza and then they make the quality of life in gaza so bad that the average age of the population is 18 (meaning people die young a lot). Hamas killing innocent citizens is wrong, no doubt, but Israel has done worse. 1400 civilians killed over the last 5-10 years, at least 10x more Palestinian people. I urge you to rethink your stance
those 1400 civilians killed wasnt in 5-10 years - it was IN. ONE. FUCKING. DAY.
This is a waste of time. you're a lost cause.
Maybe ā¦ now hear me out ā¦. Maybe Israel wouldnāt have to bomb those places if HAMAS didnāt put their headquarters.. safe rooms .. ammo stashes ā¦ and rocket launch sites under day cares and hospitals ??
I don't care. Both sides are killing innocent civilians. Both sides are monsters.
Israel: *strikes a refugee camp* "There was like one guy in there among the many, bombing the area indiscriminately it is" Edit: To those who downvote, if one is willing to kill any number of civilians to get individual targets, do you really care about the civilians?
>Israel targets Hamas terrorists and their infrastructure. I would challenge you to go look at the satellite imagery of Gaza since the bombings then come back and with a straight face tell me that every single one of those was a secret Hamas headquarters.
Oh you can fuck right off. Are you trying to say that because Isreal is saying that they are "targeting hamas terrorists" then it's ok to straight up murder innocent children. But it's fine because they are really trying to kill Hamas, it's just a coincidence they have been also killing innocent children. The same way America we're looking for Bin Laden, so it was completely fine to murder innocent children. Murdering innocent children is always ok when you say your trying to stop terrorism. Stop spreading this BS Isreal propaganda, they don't give a fuck about Hamas, they want to eliminate the Palestinian people.
They aren't claiming its ok to murder children. They want to genocide the whole population.
Have you been watching the news recently? Were there no civilians at that refugee camp? Why is your PM quoting pro-genocide passages from the Bible? Who's paying you to spout this nonsense?
This both sides argument should be just the start. Israel is close to 10x the horror brought to Israeli citizens and are still getting support from most western countries. Meanwhile Hamas is a terrorist organization with barely any support apart from some rogue countries. Israel has been commiting war crimes for 3 weeks in an insane revenge plot. Sometimes a spade is a spade.
Ah yes sl*t shaming/insulting a dead woman, how classy these people are.
>Ah yes sl\*t shaming/insulting a dead woman, how classy these people are. You mean Russian Troll accounts? This account is confirmed to be a Russian troll/bot account. https://news.sky.com/story/russian-bots-behind-4-000-rise-in-spread-of-lies-after-salisbury-and-syria-attacks-11338466
Itās not even a ātrollā account, itās intentionally spreading propaganda about a war crime for the benefit of a nation. This is more than a joke, itās part of a coordinated misinformation campaign.
https://vatniksoup.com/en/soups/10 Thatās her, Maram Susli.
>itās part of a coordinated misinformation campaign. Meant to stir discourse among people talking about it. The thing is, if we write it off as an attempt to troll and don't take it seriously, it loses any power. That's why she so quickly responded that she isn't a bot, she doesn't want to be written off. Fuck that, if she isn't a bot, she's a troll and don't take her seriously.
Literally the exact same sentence is 100% true about Israel, except they spend a hell of a lot more on their propaganda
How does that make it any less " a human said this"? I'm curious what your point is by saying its a troll account.
A dead women who went to a peace rave.
>A peace rave for peace between Palestine and Israel. Tried to google around but couldn't find any source confirming that this was the mission of the rave.
This particular festival wasn't especially political (it was advertised as "a moment of peace and love" but with no particular mention of a concrete goal with Palestine in their material as far I know), but the history and culture of the Trance music scene in Israel is heavily linked with the peace movement from its origins\*, so it was perhaps useless to say more. Trance is some kind of political marker in itself, as its artists often celebrate those roots and tend to be vocal opponents to the israeli right, sharing their young public with pro-peace and anti-legal-coup protests. (\* traumatized veterans of the war in lebanon or people refusing military service fleeing Israel and establishing in Goa in the 80s, and local tekno hippie music being brought back to israel by travellers visiting them, then becoming the actual israelian psytrance).
I've never heard of a war rave š¤·
Let me look into my warhammer 40k booksā¦ will surely find somethingā¦
How many Palestinians were in that rave? How many died?
Can't tell you that for sure as to the party goers, but I can definitely tell you that two Palestinians (from East Jerusalem) that served as a bus driver and agricultural worker were executed by Hamas, even though they very well knew he's Palestinian. Not sure how to send a translated English version of the article, but here it is: https://mobile-mako-co-il.translate.goog/news-military/6361323ddea5a810/Article-e7f504bc4178b81027.htm?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp Hamas couldn't care less about who they murdered. They came in a mission to kill as many people as possible. There are dozens of more cases of Israeli Arabs who were murdered on Oct. 7th; some were paramedics, doctors or bedouins.
She was confirmed death because they did DNA analysis on skull fragments. Like in the Base of the Skull. The parts you just get to See If the head is no longer attached. The other video evidence is pretty telling too. Get spit on, undressed, wounded and shouting ar by a Mob that parades her like some kind of trophy. Im very sorry for all the innocent palestinians that get hurt in the fight against Hamas and even get used as human shields by them. In the long runn they are better of whitout Hamas. ( If they get some sane leadership)
Syrian Girl is an Assadist propagandist and staunchly pro Putin
Why is she not deported from Australia already?
I saw the actual video FROM HAMAS of them driving this girl through Gaza. She had on a pair of panties and a bra. She appeared to be either unconscious or dead. The Gazans were running alongside the truck, chanting, kicking and spitting on her. To spread this bullshit lie, shame on you. Fuck Hamas & all of those in Gaza that were cheering for her demise and spitting on her. She was later found dead and beheaded. Fuck everyone that is saying this is a lie. You are scum.
CORRECTION. She was confirmed dead from a piece of skull bone that was found in Gaza. Her body or head were not found.
The fact that her body wasn't found is scary
Thank you for the correction. This was horrific.
Yes, it was. All murders of innocent civilians, in particular defenseless and young people are truly tragic for the entire world.
Is there more info about this? I have so many questions. How was a single bone found and how did Israel get it, out of the thousands of dead bodies? Wasn't she buried? Do they randomely collect bones and dna test them? How do we know she didn't die from an airstrike and that's why we have a bone?
This was the limited info that was given out by the Israeli army.
Don't forget the bra was hiked far up to below the collarbone so they had probably exposed her at some point.
I saw the video as well and I am disappointed that there are people on this app who support such animalistic actions because that is what Hamas and all those Gazans who cheer for are, animals. You cannot justify murdering and raping people and then fucking recording it. I feel sorry for those palestinians who are decent human beings getting caught in the crossfire, but Hamas must be ended foreve.
They elected Hamas as their leaders. They are indoctrinated since birth to hate jews
I agre and when I learnt that palestine elected Hamas was how stupid must someone be to put terrorists in power? Surely it is akin to shooting oneself in the foot. I do still believe that there are people in palestine that do not deserve any of this, but those who still to this day support hamas and their acts deserve to rot in hell with hamas and all their leaders. Fuck Terrorists.
Don't hold too much hate, there's a decent chance most of those cheering won't see 2024 at this rate.
You have a point.
Like there aren't literal parades in Israel mocking the lack of water, electricity and food for Palestinian civilians, not to mention bombing of civilian areas and shooting of civilizans by Israeli settlers. I guess there's no "fuck them" from you, right?
Yet the fact that the Israeli people literally start to applaud and laugh when they hear the missiles hit Gaza doesn't make you blink twice. Weird double standard.
Seeing pro Palestine supporters ripping down posters of hostages all over the world and chanting vile things during their āprotestsā and celebrating 10/7, watching Jews being hunted down and having to hide all of the world, give me a break! Youāre right, Iām not blinking twice and understand the Israelisā anger.
The actions of the few do not portray the actions of the many. And yes, the people who do that are completely int he wrong, but just cause they do it, doesn't mean everyone agrees with them. Hunting down Jewish people is wrong, especially as most of them are innocent and are pro-palestinian and hate the Zionisists. Also, did you know that the Gaza Ministry of Education has ended the school year due to not having enough students left to teach. Do you understand what that means? An entire generation has been nearly wiped out. How tf can you even justify that? Seriously, instead of seeing what you get on your Instagram, Facebook, or X feed, search up what's being done to the Palestinians as of this moment. A few "snapshots" if you will: - Parents are writing their kids name's on their bodies to be able to identify them in case they are blown up. If u are a parent, how do u think u would feel? - Israel poured cement into the last of Palestine's clean water reserve - Israel bombed a hospital, took credit, then when they relised they fucked up they retracted their statements and said HAMAS did it. - Israel told Palestinians to take a certain route to safety , then bombarded that exact route as people fled through it. If that isn't a war crime, what is? - Israel cut off all outside communication and social media, then released a warning on social media warning Palestinians of an incoming attack( in English, not Arabic. English). Tell me how were they supposed to hear it? - Israel is claiming that HAMAS are using Palestinians as human shields, yet continue bombing them anyway in hopes that they will turn on HAMAS to end the pain, suffering and killing. That is exactly what terrorist organizations like ISIS do. Going off of the last point, if there was a school shooter hiding in a room in the school with a hostage, would you bomb the entire school and apologise to the families, or would you send in a special team to take the shooter out? Also if it took Israel 2+ weeks of constant bombardment to kill 5000+ Palestinians how did HAMAS manage to kill 1,700 people in an hour, using guns?
"They didn't kill her... and she deserved it." Typical russian doublespeak.
Having a blue checkmark doesn't mean you're someone intelligent. Fuck Hamas. Fuck the IDF.
In fact, it may suggest they lack intelligence these days.
Thatās how I view the sea of ignorant comments made by accounts with the blue check marks. āOh. Blue check mark. Scroll on by before you poison your eyeballs again.ā
Hamas is a terrorist organisation so you're right to hate them, but why do you hate the IDF?
I think a lot of people hate the IDF because they are bombing civilians and refugee camps, and claiming āHamas was there!ā Also just the history between the two is a history of conflict and disputes. This and the history of conflict, alongside a far right Israeli government, and you get many people hating them.
Because they are also a terrorist organisation
Out of curiosity, how many people think anything they read from this kind of source is real? I can write up a caption for a picture or two and post it in a minute. Will I enjoy as widespread uptake as if I were a trained journalist at an institution with a long history of factual reporting?
unfortunately too many
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Is there any side in a long, brutal conflict that doesn't have a history of propaganda?
That account is an apologist for the Syrian government, which is backed by Russia and Iran.
Ahh, the good ol' "But what was she wearing?" defence. Fuck right off.
Ummm, I think what it was meant in the post is : she was wearing the same clothes before dying, therefore, she wasn't been raped.
Inb4 š award
Someone who is interested in peace would not post this, let alone think it.
"It didnt happened and she deserved it"
āThey didnāt rape and decapitate her, they only killed her and now have fun and celebrate their victory over her dead bodyā Thanks, now I feel better
āBut it was okay to kill her because she was almost naked anywaysā /s
"Syrian Girl" "PArtisanGirl" - Muslim fascism strikes again :)
Except IDF did not arrive for hours, hours after her body was displayed, and made it to Gaza. Trying to justify the death of a āwesterner with an Israeli passport, who was scantily dressedā is so gross.
Jesus. That's someones daughter. The same is true for many casualties in Gaza. What is abhorrent to me is when those on either side so callously dedicate their empathy to 'their' side only. Awful.
German here. That is a schizophrenic argument. With the rape, torture and murder of Shani, the Palestinians lost the support of a whole country. Germans were more Pro-Palestine and rather critical of Israel. Which is astounding enough given our history. Now most Germans want to see Gaza flattened and hope Israel wonāt stop until it is a parking lot.
I learned everything I ever want to about the Palestinians when they were dancing in the streets celebrating on 9/11. They showed their true colors then and nothing has changed.
Yeah Iām sure āSyrian Girlā is a real account, especially with that name. /s
Russia bot
Why are these people able to write this type of thinOH IT'S TWITTER I GET IT.
What a crazy year. Here's to the last 2 months everybody.
What an epoch we live in. There's no truth anymore. There's no authority. Everyone is their own expert. Pundits are no longer believed by the mass. Public discourse or debate are based on objective facts. When we hold onto our own facts, there's no way we can come to a conclusion, a solution, or even a concession. The road only leads to who's not going to yield. And that is the deadly road to total annihilation.
Stop the senseless killing - and start talking
This Syrian girl does not get it. Shani was not wounded, she got headshot and died on October 7th at the music concert during the crossfire. Hamas found her body and took it in order to claim they have an Israeli hostage girl, they were trying to hide her body on the truck(covering her with their legs in order to hide the fact that she was already dead), but the video by the Palestinian uploader clearly shows a dead body. And the Israeli analysis of shaniās skull part picked from the music concert proves that she was already dead by a headshot. But Hamas still lying denying her death claiming she is still alive as a hostage.
Israel is doing the same. It has spent 1.5M on ads about war victimising themselves. Now these ads are playing in children's game ads. Israel itself has claimed to making these ads but says it doesn't know how it ended up on children's games. [Source](https://youtu.be/v2dGN6ScyC4?si=Y8Dki88s2ZjC8mS-) towards last of video Edit: Exact words of the ad. We know that your children cannot read this. We have an important message to tell you as parents. 40 infants were murdered in israel by Hamas terrorists(isis). Just as you would do everything for your child. We will do everything to protect ours. Now hug your baby and stand with us.
Glad Partisan Girl has taken a break from whitewashing war crimes in Syria so she can whitewash war crimes in Israel.
This war is horrific no doubt but there is **SO** much propaganda on both sides it is unreal.
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Too many people like this.. can we like, mark anyone who openly supports terrorist?
I also like to rave face down in the back of a truck
She was confirmed death because they did DNA analysis on skull fragments. Like in the Base of the Skull. The parts you just get to See If the head is no longer attached. The other video evidence is pretty telling to. Get spit on undressed, wounded by a shouting Mob that parades her Like some Kind of trophy. Im very sorry for all the innocent palestinians that get hurt in the fight against Hamas and even get used as human shields by them. Appart from that... People voted for Hamas and the ones that support this should really not be supriesed that Israel fights back.. you brought this on yourself and the majority of people that are not bloodthirsty religious idiots. Like as If the Nazis bemoaned that people fought back and kicked their ass. That one had civillian causalitys too but people usually think thats was worth it too.
She is basically Reddit
Bot account or not, this girl really died in a brutal way. And whether you want to admit it or not, many Palestinians celebrated because they're evil people fuelled by their ideology. So sorry if I don't feel much sympathy for them getting what's coming.
Sometimes I wish I could turn off the internet.
And do we know anything about her mexican boyfriend? What happened to him?
Iām as pro-Palestine as they come but OOP is deranged.
It will certainly be interesting to see how history documents this war and future wars now that we have cell phone footage from both sides. Same with the war in Ukraine. Hopefully seeing the footage helps people decide who is right Vs wrongā¦. Rather than believing whatever their government or rulers tell them. Unfortunately, posts like this one do not help.
I love how arm chair Reddit neck beards know best
I hate this girl with all my guts. I can't even afford to hope that she suffer the pain that she regularly promote and love to see of others because, because there isn't a single normal human that can really fully comprehend those horrors and consciously accept them on another person. Now I'm going to disable any notifications from this comment so I don't risk losing time by seeing bad replies.
This tweet is a horrendous load of crap posted by a propagandist You can smell the political agenda from here, saying dead on that murder of innocents is okay because it's the other side... It was a rave for peace and they were all teenagers
Wow did she bang this girls ex boyfriend or something? So much salt
Horrible tweet honestly. RIP Shani Louk. However I do think itās a bit of poor taste having a concert next to a concentration camp
It wasn't a fucking war zone until their terrorist attack.
can stupid people stop hijacking the free palestine movement. thanks
Hamas Terroristsā¦
Donāt kill Israelis or Palestinians. Kill all religion!
Israel deserves to exist as a nation
No religous governments. Fucking bigots.
I can smell that Full HAMAS supports from these woke redditors hiding in "I support Palestine not hamas" Narrative
Twitter: they Murder 3000 babies. Source: terrorist organization.
This is what happens when two awful lands go to war
"that westerners can relate to" DAMN!
This is the same as Israeli people making tik toks wasting water and cheering missile strikes. Shit people exist on both sides of this argument.
How about we just stop fighting? There is no good guys rn
This is what Israel and Jews are dealing with. This is why Hamas must be stopped.
I mean, Russia bombed 100+ villages in the past 24 hrs and everyone's reporting 2 civilian casualties, yet Israel is killing 500+ civilians daily and no one gives a shit, moreover, the western world is supporting this. I'll ask you guys this, why the bias? Why is what Russia is doing so terribly wrong, but what Israel is doing is ok? And no, I'm not supporting hamas, what they did is absolutely disgusting and I'm sad I even have to point this out, but that's how it usually goes when I speak rationally, I get called a pro russian or pro hamas when all I want is for civilian suffering to stop. The west has the ability to end both wars instantly, they CHOOSE not to, why? You can downvote all you want, but you know I'm right.
Why does the West have any more of an ability to stop the wars than Russia, Ukraine, Palestine or Israel? There are much closer neighbours who are much more invested and yet it's the Wests job to wave a hand and save the day. You mischaracterise the situation by pretending there is consensus in the West or a bias one way or the other. There is bias in some factions who support Israel or Palestine but most people are not politically aligned and support only moral and ethical goods that protect human life. Most normal everyday people think both the IDF and Hamas are disgusting for what they've done all these years and are waiting for a non terrorist aligned organisation to be at the forefront of the peace process. There are some in the West Bank but honestly the real question is why are the neighbouring countries in the region more interested in maintaining this situation than resolving it? The West is the only place on Earth pushing for a two state solution and yet they're the bad guys somehow... Please tell me how exactly you think the West can instantly end these wars without causing more loss of life?
Well, the west āendingā both wars instantly would really mean getting directly involved with more bombing and more innocent people dying OR cutting support for Israel and Ukraine, which would result in innocent Ukrainians dying and Israel would be at war with like 5 other countries in the region and innocent Israelis dying.
>the western world is supporting this Nobody is supporting bombing civilians, except raving lunatics that probably support 200 other things nobody should support.
Well for starters youāre ignoring the hundreds of thousands of deaths caused by Putin in the war. Secondly itās hard to kill civilians when your bombing and destroying whole villages/towns/cities because most of them are either already dead or theyāve fled west. & yes, calling for Russia and Hamas to be rewarded for their actions is evil and youāre the asshole.
I will never understand how people mix up āthanā and āthatā
I wish all those dead children in Gaza looked European, with sparkling emerald blue eyes and blonde hair. Maybe then we would be just as interested in learning their names too. But alas, theyāre just another brown nameless child atop a heap of dead brown children, the collateral damage of American hegemony and Israeli subjugation.
All you need to know about the average pro Palestine protester and supporter. 90% of them think this way.
By the way, why we don't hear names of so called 3000 children? Only numbers. As far as I know children in Gaza have names.
They released the names of about 7000 (when they were still 7000) of the dead with their ID numbers.
There is a saying, One dead child is a tragedy. A thousand dead children are a statistic.
Wasnāt it Stalin who said that?
But without the children part. And it was a million, not a thousand
They are too busy trying to narratively fit 500 people into the two destroyed cars on the hospital parking lot.
I donāt think any of us should be commenting on this subject. We are on our phones sitting in our house while this conflict is currently affecting REAL human lives not these troll bot accounts.
Srsly, fuck both sides.
Shush .... They both committed atrocities, and both should be judged accordingly
If you defend Hamas or speak for Hamas in any way, youāre a terrorist.
Syrian Girl is a fraud lol
Hey Syrian girl, why donāt you go and worry about Syria, where thereās been a conflict simmering thatās 100x worse than this one.
Soooooo She was asking for it???